1 has localizations and dubs so good that the devs went out of their way to hire fans who wanted to dub and translate into their own languagesThe other has political agendas and complete rewriting of the story to push these agendasWhat happened?
>>737713108>The other has political agendas and complete rewriting of the story to push these agendasElaborate, I am out of the news, what happened?
>>737713108The latter was already a tranny game.
almost responded seriously, you know "what happened" already this has beern going on for years. you just want to shitpost
>>737713198The localization for yunyun syndrome was done by a tranny who doesn't watch or is a fan of anime. His employer is someone who fucked up the metal gear solid localization so badly he is hated by Kojima himself and most likely got him fired from working with Konami ever again. He is currently vandalizing japanese games like this one as retaliation.
>>737713108AI is the future for translations. Both because it's less biased, but also because it allows anyone to fraud check dogshit trannylations on the fly, which means a lot more people complaining about bad ones.
>>737713198Latter game had a quirk chungus rewrite "localization", a couple lines were rewritten to be about facism. There was also an odd line about wanting to "carve out her uterus"
>>737713108miside is a russian game, I doubt any of the usual suspects even worked on localizing it
>>737713604Mostly it's that it's rife with genalpha slang when it's meant to be about 2012's denpa+otaku culture. It's way off, tonally, even disregarding all the faggoty politics interjected.
>>737713108Russians actually care about the outside world while Japan don't. They just give some barebone """"english"""" support to stop burgers (doesn't matter if you aren't American, everyone non-Japanese is burger) complaining about eng sub. They literally just don't care. No empathy whatsoever. Another example is Touhou. You would just think the guy could hire someone or get someone free for translation but nope.
>>737714002Yeah that's the primary thing that pissed me off. I want a fucking otaku game not whatever the localizers felt it should be instead.
>>737713529That's not localization, that's straight up trolling.
>>737713108the yun yun localization is so bad>END FACISMthat even leftists are calling it dogshit kek
>>737713881Funnily enough, the company that published MiSide was the biggest theater company in Japan.>>737714165Yes, and now you understand why we're angry. A game for 30-year old heisei oldfags watch butchered beyond recognition for people on tiktok who don't even know what denpa is never mind actually follow people like momoi, nanahira or camellia.
>>737713529wtf
>>737713108Just eat your fricking hamburgers Apollo.
Pipipipipipirupipi.The robot has paintakingly cleaned all the twist ties up and is now beeping at the floor. It is still a mess. Continuing to emit please die waves at localizers.
>>737713529>deleted all the actual otaku culture like NND, Kanon, Haruhi, Rance, NHK, Shobon and added "Okay white knight", "who TF wants kids anywayz", "END FASCISM!"
>>737713108>>737713529They went full mask off
>>737713108"Hello everyone,My name is Fuyuki Hayashi (WHO YOU), the creator of Yunyun Syndrome!? Rhythm Psychosis. As this is an urgent matter, please allow me to communicate via machine translation.First of all, thank you very much to everyone who has purchased Yunyun Syndrome!? Rhythm Psychosis, added it to your wishlist, or shown interest in the game.We are aware that many players—especially those enjoying the game primarily in English—have raised concerns about the quality of the localization. These comments have been shared through Steam reviews and the Community Hub, as well as on X, YouTube trailer comments, Discord, and other platforms. While it is difficult to review every single message in detail, I am reading as many of your comments as possible.""Examples:END FASCISMi will NEVER be victimized under fascism againThe magical girl personas of all your apps, duh.someone hire that mr robo guy loli'd cut my uterus out if i cldetc.These changes will be implemented by the end of today (Japan Standard Time), which corresponds to 8:00 AM PT on April 25. In addition, while a detailed schedule has not yet been finalized, we plan to review all in-game text alongside our localization partners in the near future and make sure the final product fully represents my vision."https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2914150/view/502856256328827730
>>7377147411.06 didn't sufficiently fix the game
>>737714894They said they will look over the entire script for 1.07 and beyond.
>>737713529How the fuck does that even happen? Did nobody read this before putting it in?
>>737713108Shitty contractors who cut corners and actively hate the end user exist in every industry. Only difference is in gaming it's political, and many devs are pure hearted artists who don't realize they need to watch their contractors like they're convicts.
>>737715245Part of the problem is that Japan is a high trust society and these faggots are apparently westerners based in Osaka.
>>737715297Its just taking advantage of the nips
>>737714930with the same team that fucked it in the first place.Great double dipping jews
>>737715335That's my point.
>>737715365They likely get paid based on the original contract, not hours spent. Could be wrong, but that's how I thought it worked, anyway.
>>737715297It's not specifically a japan problem, but yes, it is a high trust problem, so japanese devs are disproportionally effected. This is the exact same thing as a doordash driver stealing your food, hiring a dogsitter who doesn't even show up, or a building contractor skimping out on insulation since they know you won't tear things down to check it.
>>737715141The trannylator team "appears" legitimate and they claim how they "touched metal gear solid with their fingers" but the translation for that game is even worse than yunyun syndrome. Also this jap probably had no idea and was lied to
>>737715785Well, "appeared"At least back in February anyways going by the wayback machine.
Russians are more based than Japs, but 4chan isn't ready for that conversation.
>>737715141>Dev doesn't speak English>Throws dart at a translator that seems vaguely reputable>They fuck it up>Dev doesn't know, they don't speak English.>Most players don't know, they don't speak Japanese and aren't looking at the original script.>Only after seeing something truly egregious like "End Fascism" will they check it with machine translation and get upset>Even then, they can't communicate to the Japanese dev.>Gets even worse if the Japanese dev has a community manager of the same school of thought as these localizers, who will make up whatever community reaction they want that will give them more control over the game. Even if the game completely flops in the west, the dev will assume it's culture differences rather than malicious localizers. The only way to communicate that something has gone wrong to one of these developers who doesn't know to check for it themself is for bilingual fans to contact them directly, and there just aren't enough bilingual fans to make enough noise.
>>737716209Yeah and the Japanese devs really think that all their fans are earnest lovers of the stuff they make, so the idea that someone would underhandedly attack their work from the inside is almost unthinkable. How could you hurt my precious Yunyun like that? Etc.
>>737716285What I mean is, while Japs are kind of sycophantic and overly deferential, at least the fans of their games are /really/ into all these works and would never sabotage them. It's a huge cultural difference.
>>737716285Yeah, it's truly an insane amount of work to put into tearing someone down. Even if they've encountered two faced bastards who've bullied or taken advantage of them, it's impossible for them to understand the depths of an american progressive's envy if they haven't seen it laid bare before, or to understand how much American university and west coast culture supports that envy. These localizers feel no shame in subverting someone else's work because it's what their culture tells them is right.
>>737713108Just play on one of the other handful of languages. Wait, don't tell me you can only read english? GAHAHHAHA Imagine being monolingual in this day and age.
>>737716912Mfw first language is spoken by so few that no one ever translates anything into it. Economically unviable.
>>737716912I do know more than just english, still not buying. It's a trust issue.
>>737716912I won't buy a game that has a bad English localization even if I know Japanese. I don't my money going to trannylators, or the devs that cucks to them.
>have a degree in Japanese language studies and localization>next to no work due to rare language pair>can never work with games or anime because nothing gets translated to my language>can't work with English game localization either because I'm ESL, and companies prefer their translators to be native English speakers (this is good in theory since native speakers can easily catch anything that sounds unnatural in the translated text)>see these trannoid retards getting paid real money for maliciously butchering games and writing complete fanfiction
>>737716209It should be common sense to check the quality of services provided. Seems like the dev simply couldn't care less about some gaijin overseas, which isn't unusual.
>>737717296Get a dual degree in English.
>>737717135The trannylators were already paid off, they won't get a single cent from your purchase. Do whatever you want, tho.
There's this one line that bother me a lot: "i'd cut my uterus out if i cld".Why, does it have other meaning that I don't understand? I'm not a westerner.
>>737717858The original context was about having children, and the response from all the commenters was just a simple "don't want."The localizer turned it into...that.
>>737713108I don't care about localizations, AI or videogames. I just want transsexuals to suffer.
>>737716912>Implying the other translations are not based on the English one 90% of the time.
>>737717296take an english test and you could probably prove that you're native level
>>737717296If you want a successful grift idea, make a kickstarter/patreon for Dead Red Hood (sequel to Black Souls 2) translation. The fanbase is a bit deranged and obsessed with the game, I think there are like two dozen fangames in the making, so I'm certain they'd throw money at such a project. The person who translated BS2 is MIA. Style yourself as a BS2 lorefag, say you're familiar with English literature, and you'll get ez money.On the other hand, because the fanbase is so obsessed, I wouldn't be surprised to see like 5 competing fan translation projects.
>>737718046They aren't in this specific game the thread is about
>>737717858It's partly a trans thing, partly a psychopathic leftist anti-nuclear family thing. It's as vulgar and disgusting to everyone not in those circles as you probably guess.
>>737718123That's gonna be MTLed within a day and probably will have an official release anyway for those who care about quality. That said, the general idea of setting up a grift for eroge translations is one he could still find success in.
>>737718093Your English skills don't just stop at C2. I was operating at C1/C2 level in a STEM field for years, but Melville/Joyce/Pynchon still fucked me up.
>>737718123That's just going to be licensed by Otaku Plan, anon. There's no point. I bet rare_cats even works for them now.
>>737717858Troons will never have kids of their own and being reminded of it makes them lash out.
>>737718262>probably will have an official release anyway for those who care about quality.That's the part I'm worried about. rare_cats is gone, and the publisher for the game is notorious for using edited MTL. I care too much about the series to see the translation half-assed.
>>737713529>END FASCISM!what was the original text here?
>>737717135Hell, I probably won't buy it even if they fix it.I want them to denounce the localization team AND promise they won't work with them in the future, only THEN they will get my money. Anything less than that is just empty words and promises.
>>737718404Otaku Plan hasn't been doing any MTL for a while, anon. They're better than Kagura now. And also, both BS1 and BS2 from those use rare_cats translation as a base, so they licensed it which means he's alive.
>>737718408Talking about a black company in japanese and all 6 other languages. The tranny made it about government and fascism in english
>>737718404Otaku plan mostly uses human translation these days actually. They have improved at lot and even have anons working for them.
>>737718408Stop/yamero
>>737718408The entire context is Ho-Ren-Sou and corporate brainwashing of wageslaves
>>737718408
>>737718263Can confirm; I read the authors you've mentioned, and while I've been at least C2 for over a decade, they remain difficult. Learning a second language to a very high level is a lifelong pursuit.
>>737718516That's a surprise, but a welcome one. I don't visit /hgg2d/, so I wouldn't know.>>737718487Couldn't they have made a deal directly with DLSite? But if uncommon_felines is truly alive, all the better.
>>737718748No, because it wasn't a DLSite translation. The translation was provided to EMMM directly by rare_cats and sold with external agreement. DLSite wasn't involved in the English version sold there.
>>737718748We don't actually know if uncommon_felines was involved with the otakuplan release. It's possible that EMMM just has full rights to the translation and they only dealt with him. I do think it's likely that they will handle dead red regardless, and their recent releases have largely been fine so it should be too.
People are depending way too much on charity from unofficial translators and empty hopes that the official localizations won't be horseshit.Just learn japanese, really, stop being such a fucking nigger.
>>737719082YOU CAN'T
>>737719082I'm playing it in Japanese, the only nigger here is youI just don't like doing that because I keep having to browse the damn dictionary on my lap
>>737718668>Learning a second language to a very high level is a lifelong pursuit.This. Just developing an ear for style takes a long, long time. And being able to write at a satisfactory level is yet another skill you have to learn. This is why companies prefer native speakers, it comes easier for them, though that's far for a guarantee of quality. Conrad and Nabokov were ESLs too, yet they're great stylists.>inb4 Conrad su-He was admired by Woolf.
>>737719082>just let me shit up your hobby goy
>>737719149>I just don't like doing that because I keep having to browse the damn dictionary on my lapYou clearly don't know japanese then
>>737719082>just stop caring brohmm nyo
we should simply copy the chinese by adding language options for English (traditional) and English (mentally ill)
I don't understand how this keeps happening. Someone linked their webpages and they were terrible with the expected psycho narcissist activist vibes. Do producers looking to localize their games look at these and go "this looks like a good choice" or is it all through contacts with like-minded people who've already ingratiated themselves at various positions in the companies?
>>737719227>>737719179>>737719149You'll keep suffering from bad translations then, lmao.Also I don't know why learning japanese would mean you won't care about low quality localizations, this is all your own projecting.
>>737719209I'm still in the process of cramming vocab but I have a good understanding of the grammarFor obvious reasons I would never contribute translations to anything in my current stateWhy do you catposters always make such trash posts
>>737719307They surreptitiously made their Japanese page much more normal and professional. And he probably got the localization team as a package deal with the publisher instead of picking it himself.
>>737717296>Step 1: learn Esperanto>Step 2: fan TL a whole bunch of classic NES/SNES JRPGs to build up clout and a resume as a translator (you will be the only game in town)>Step 3: convince weebs that they need to abandon English and take the 3 months required to learn Esperanto so they can get "proper" translations into a non-tainted language>Step 4: shill your services to commercial game dev outfits>Step 5: ???>Step 6: tell everyone they can traktu ĝis if they prefer to deal with English loooocalizer slopWhat could go wrong?
>>737719209I know who you are, go back to /lgbt/.
>>737719449>learn a made up jew language specifically created as an attempt to ruin real languagesNo. If you want to study made up languages at least learn something like hymmnos.
>>737713108The woke crowd has taken over Japanese game translation companies, but not Russian game translation companies yet. Simple as.
>>737717473>>737718093I actually already work more with English than Japanese. Even the Japanese companies that I work for mostly have me translate from English, as it's more cost-effective to have one already translated main English version of a text that is then translated into different languages. The rates are much lower compared to rare language pairs. However, convincing companies that I can produce good English text myself is a big hurdle. Like other anons already mentioned, there's still a gap between good ESL speaker and a true native, and companies tend to place special emphasis on delivering text that sounds completely natural to the target audience. For technical texts and such, conveying information accurately and being faithful to the source text is paramount, but for pop culture stuff like video the rules are extremely loose as long as the result sounds natural English.>>737718123I'm actually also waiting for DRH myself, lel. But like the other anon said, MTL has actually gotten pretty decent in recent years, so there's going to be unofficial day one competition. Plus, I wager that after successful Steam releases of BS1 and BS2 they're probably going to also have an official English localization for DRH. I'm planning on pivoting into teaching anyways due to AI stealing my job, and I already work as part time teacher for several different employers.
>>737719449Hymnnos > Esperanto
>>737719449soz m8 this is a lojban board
So whats the power move here, buy and give a negative review?
>>737719358"i'm too up my own ass to actually engage with these posts" award
>>737719719I doubt this requires much more momentum. The dev is undoubtedly working very hard to fix things. But yes, you can buy, leave bad review, refund. It'll go through as long as you don't do this too much.
>>737716285>>737716638Shut the hell up. Japs aren't innocent, they're bound by a corporate slave mentality, and assume everyone else is the same.
>>737719807That's what I said in the first message that you failed to quote. That they're sycophantic and overly deferential, but...
>>737719807This somehow relate to the insidious work of botch translation because?
>character literally saying "deep state" in engrish is localized as "bourgeoisie"You don't hate localizers enough.
>>737719719Buy, leave negative review, don't refund.Alternatively, if you truly believe the dev is at fault, then pirate the game, throw a few bucks at odyk on fanbox, then buy a Nanahira, Momoi and Camellia album.
>>737717296The funny thing is several JP->EN localizers don’t even have a Japanese degree or N1 certification. Some were hired right after the JET program and never took the JLPT.Actual qualified people get hired for more respected translation jobs outside of entertainment. I’ve had localizers admit to me they used Google Translate well before AI was a thing. This shit has been going on for ages.
>>737720825God I still have nightmares of old analytical google translate. Also babelfish. And ATLAS.
>>737717858dragonbaby is led by a trans man who wants to rip out their uterus
>>737721012No, that's the lead localizer of this project. Dragonbaby is run by the man Kojimbo told to fuck off years before he assassinated Abe.
So what's the status of MTLs and ChatGPTSlop? Somewhat passable or still years away?
>>737719449This, but do it in Kay(f)bop(t) instead of Esperanto.
>>737720825>Actual qualified people get hired for more respected translation jobs outside of entertainmentPretty much. At the end of the day anime/manga/most games is basically bottom of the barrel translation work in terms of pay. Similar to how english voice acting works honestly.
>>737719449>not hymmnosWas quel ra morto yor
>>737713108Russians have an unfair advantage here because Russia is a troon repellent. No axe-wound tranny would touch it with a ten foot pole.
>>737721845How do we make the jews fear the samurai again?
>>737721951Get Japan to stop being a US vassal and everything else will fall into place naturally.
>>737721302Haven't used them myself, but I've sometimes seen anons post comparison screenshots of modern MTL and they seem pretty good, at least a fuckton better than several years prior before the AI boom. Have no clue how language model actually works, but I'd figure the biggest hurdle for EN>JA machine translation would be context, as Japanese conjugation doesn't tell you the grammatical person (e.g. who or what is doing something), plus the subject and topic are both often dropped and instead inferred from what has been said before.
>>737721951They already got Japan to accept centralized banking. Just like us they'll be slaves until economic collapse.
>>737721302Worse than a good human translation, better than a localization. It's "mostly" readable but sometimes you get the sloppa machine falling into the same pitfalls older MTL does(it still can't handle context very well and will still mess up pronouns). Much better than it used to be but I still hesitate to recommend it for more than eroge with simple dialog.
>>737713198you know how sometimes people may exaggerate a bit and say that the localization team butchered the translation? in this case its real and there isn't even the excuse of misunderstanding it or trying to make it sound different while keeping it "reasonable", this game eng dub dialogue is completely made up and it doesn't match the origina(or any other translation) in the slightest, completely getting rid of it in some parts and replacing it nonsensical leftist politics that doesn't even fit the moment and game, an unironic hate letter to the author and player
>>737720234Is there no Mosaic.wav in the OST? They were the Gods of Denpa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU_Yw_EaGyU
>>737723581There are three tracks from them in the game.
>>737723837Fuck now I'm really pissed these trannies fucked with this game, this should have been a nobrainer instabuy.
>>737713529I'll just play in spanish I guess, ¡vamos a divertirnos amigos!
>>737715547the problem is that English/American fags love destroying other cultures ironic since this all comes from USSR successfully destroying the original culture
>>737725189Actually, if you go a step back, it'd be more accurate to say the urban monoculture is a fusion of the ideology of the Quakers and maxism/Gramsci. Most the bullshit progs has been done by the Quakers for as long as America has been around. Not sure exactly why they got so out of control, since I don't imagine adding Marxism to any ideology would make it stronger.
>>737723989Funny how you post Sakura, one of the biggest victims of shitty localization in anime. Also, by some miracle LATAM didn't get the abomination that was the Nelvana's dub, we instead gor a translation done from the ground up.
>>737725189As it is in the east, it's the same in the west. The issue is jews. If you answer the question basically all these issues would vanish within a generation.
>>737726286It's not jews, it's fiat currency. If you got rid of all the jews, but kept fake money, nothing would change.
>>737713529>hello we need someone who is familiar with the internet and its subcultures for the translation >why yes i am very familiar with the internet and its subcultures (20 years on tumblr)
>>737726413Fake money is what created jews after all. I'll never expect /pol/tards to understand though, they're retarded troglodytes who only care about tribalism.
>>737726286is pakistan a shithole because of jews?
>>737726413Who do you think pushed for fake money to begin with?
>>737726623No, it's a shithole because it's full of browns. We aren't talking about brown countries though. We are talking about otherwise civilized places. No one gives a flying fuck about shitholes inhabited by AJIN.
>>737726413Both fiat currencies and speculative markets need to go.
>>737715141japs are a high-trust society, they do not understand outside of Japan that is not the cast and troons are bad actors who sabotage stuff as a troon tantrumthe nip mind cannot comprehend this
>>737726841it predates kikes
>>737726937It literally doesn't. Fake money(IE shit not backed by gold) has only been widely used for a little over 100 years.
>>737721951why would anybody fear a bunch of pathetic midgets with rusty ass swords? just shoot them lmao
>>737726937No, it doesn't.Currencies were all backed by gold and silver until the great depression and they chose to cheat to get out of the hole by using monopoly money.
>>737726986Japanese steel(folded 1000 times) can cut through boolets. Good luck NERD.
>>737726971Fake money began thousand of years ago, stop being retarded.
>>737714085>not whatever the localizers felt it should be instead.Most localizers are failed writers who are desperate to be recognized, so they fuck over somebody else's work out of spite. Because video games aren't considered art, nobody gives a fuck and they continue being employed
>>737727027The only retarded person is you for thinking any form of currency beyond bartering directly is fake.
>>737726841You mean after USA government stop tether their currency with gold?I always find it odd that one of the biggest gold trading market still use US dollar.
>>737726841Countless societies have done it. Sure, jewish individuals have often pushed it, but fiat currencies go all the way back to Rome, and have always been just as lethal to a nation's economy, and with it their agriculture, industry, and art.>>737726905Speculative markets are fine as long as nobody bails out the losers. When the people who make irrational judgements get removed from the market by way of bankrupcy, speculative markets are a way to save resources for when they're needed.
>>737727191I'd love to hear how you plan to lower the cost of property then considering speculative real-estate investment firms own all of it.
>>737717296And you are never ever going to get real work if you don't work for a tranny company like dragonbaby.Hope you are ready to sell your soul to moloch retard
>>737719807>japs are low IQits about time people learned this
>>737726971>>737727017Paper is particularly insane, it's happened a few times with bonds, I can think of an example in France off the top of my head, but usually it happens by diluting the precious metal content in the currency. Switching silver coins for tin is fundamentally the same thing as switching bills backed by gold with bills backed by a vague promise it can be used to pay your taxes. Even that older form of fiat currency can be seen with the US removing copper from it's pennies.
>>737727509Japs are not high IQJews are not the smartest raceArabs and people from the Mediterranean are probably the highest IQ races Still not even close to blacks or mutt experiments like gen z, those "people" are basically animals
>>737726552You need to stop being so tribalistic, goy. Ignore the fact that we are carefully acting in concert (as a tribe) to protect our own interests over yours.
>>737727614>Arabs and people from the Mediterranean are probably the highest IQ raceskek
>>737727778>aschulkually creating math, algebra, trigonometry, physics, music, and philosophy is not a big deal>WE WUZ
>>737727401Stop raising the value of government backed mortgages every time it looks like it's going to collapse, and accept the market correction. Additionally, lift zoning restrictions and lax building codes. Stop giving boomers, or anyone else, an exemption from property taxes.There are lots of other scarce resources that haven't resulted in such an absurd astronomical bubble. Tomatoes, gold, and oil haven't had skyrocketing prices despite having speculative markets. The reason housing doesn't go down is because every time it looks like it's going to go down, government does something to force it to keep going up. That's why the mortgages are the worst example, but even on the smaller scale, people who own valuable properties usually try to get land they don't own near the property zoned as "historical" making it illegal to build develop and therefore worthless. Obviously giving away free money to people buying homes and making it illegal to build are doing more to keep the housing bubble from popping than allowing people to buy land and sell it at a later date.
>>737727882The people who created those things are not the same people who exist there today.
>>737727747>Jews are infamous for infighting, self-hate, and never agreeing on anything>are acting in concertYeah right
>>737728120Why are they so overrepresented in positions of power then? Don't tell me you actually think it's meritocracy?
>>737727614>Arabs and people from the Mediterranean are probably the highest IQ racesThat's a funny joke.
>>737727747I agree, white people should act as a tribe to protect our own interests, but the best way to do that is to get rid of central banking and fiat currency, not spend resources chasing another racial group out of our borders. Coincidentally, that's also the best way for black people to protect their interests, and Asians, and any other racial group living under a central banking system, including jews. Significantly more jews live in poverty because their money is getting devalued by a central banking system than there are jews currently operating a money printer. It doesn't matter what the ethnicity of the people in the barrel of monkeys are, we should get rid of the barrel.
>>737728089>The people who created those things are not the same people who exist there today. just because they got fucked in the ass by the american forces that were led by their jewish masters because of a holy land o algo doesn't mean that they are not smart anymore.
>>737728120Jews work together to destroy other cultures while jewing other jews, it's in their DNA
>>737720194Why is the deep state trying to deflect hatred of them onto the bourgeoisie?
>>737728173>The people with the highest IQ in the Western world are overrepresented? How is that possible?? And don't you dare say it's due to merit!You're a real goyishe kup
>>737728436The deep state is a conspiracy and doesn't exist. Stop noticing.
>>737728585No one is falling for that shit anymore. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stLCurXu0fc
>>737728173Obviously it's not, jews already in power steal from the general public for their own enrichment, and give a portion of that to other jews. The solution to that isn't to try the holocaust again, it's to get rid of the tools that let people in power steal from the general public. Low taxes, no fiat currency, no regulations with grandfather clauses, and we're all playing on the same field. Without the money printer, nobody's nepotism is stronger than anyone else's. And nepotism, when it doesn't involve stealing from anyone, is good for a society, but that's an argument I won't get into. tl;dr, inheritance taxes and banning fathers from hiring their sons into their own business are bad.Also, if you're going to rag on Jews for doing it, Catholics do it just as bad. The judicial branch is almost entirely run by Catholics.
>>737728759>don't punish murderers, just ban guns
>>737718263>>737718668do they really test esl's on finnegan's wake to determine if they're good enough at english? I'm pretty sure 100% of native english speakers who aren't english majors and probably 50% or more of those who are can't understand that book for shit.
>>737727882>outsmarts and buckbreaks Trump over the past month>shows everyone how fragile the petrodollar world is>manages to ruin the reputation of the F-35>not high-IQ
>>737728283>not spend resources chasing another racial group out of our bordersI'm on to you chaim.
>>737729135>too low IQ to understand they'd just leave on their own once the Jews stop destroying 3rd world countriesKoreans started leaving America in like the 2010s, after mass immigrating during the korean war
>>737713108>"Erm, the changes make sense in context chud">Find out they genuinely completely rewrote the entirety of the context of several scenes so their changes would fit/makes senseThis is the worst one in a while.
>>737729065based
>>737713108>1 has localizations and dubs so good that the devs went out of their way to hire fans who wanted to dub and translate into their own languagesDogshit devs.
>>737727882>>737728303What have they created of note in the last few hundred years? Aside from suicide bombing.
>>737728901That's not remotely the same. I'm not arguing to ban printers, just that we should stop printing dollars, and allow people to use other currencies. We should remove murders from society, we should remove thieves, and we should remove fraudsters. Central banking is fraudulent. So lock up the people ordering that the money printer runs and the direct beneficiaries of their scam, rather than wasting time arresting people who happen to have the same nose shape or retarded religion as the people controlling the money printer.>>737729135Am I wrong though?I'd argue the same policy for Isreal. Rather than killing Muslims, they should be prosecuting individuals at fault to the best of their ability. Collective guilt is what causes unending blood feuds.
>>737728694>33 minute videoI'm not dumb enough to waste my time giving you a free view. Sum it up in a post or bugger off.
>(((Blaustein)))I think it's hilarious how Xitter is now one of the most anti-Semitic places on the internet and everyone zeroed in onto this name at first glance.
>>737716209tbf anyone with a lick of sense should try putting their stuff into an MTL to check and also ask the translator what they're doing with their translation. yeah, you can't catch it all, but you can absolutely question why lines are completely different from the original, especially if you can pick out the references>>737716638every day i feel like the japanese are more justified to be racist against us filthy gaijin
>>737729767>nowDid you only attain consciousness last week?
>>737714741The issue is that their trannylation as a whole sucks balls, too, and the entirety of it needs to be removed and replaced with an actual proper translation.You don't cure someone by removing only 10% of the poison in their body, same deal here.
>>737718584>what the fuck is LFG>お兄ちゃんどいてそいつ殺せない is mistranslatedWait, isn't that line from the FOE flash video?
>>737729626Summary: all the studies that "proved" high Ashkenazi IQ were garbage, tiny sample sizes, cherrypicked, etc. This shouldn't really come as a surprise if you know anything about science as it's not a magic fact producing machine and is vulnerable to both intentional distortions and just general sloppiness (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis )
>>737729767How new are you?We locked onto this guy because Kojimbo told him to go fuck himself long ago with MGS.
i want to watch pikamee now.
>>737729984
>>737715141The scam becomes apparent when you compare dragonbaby's jp and en site. the JP one is professional and the en one is a shitpost
It's fucking crazy just how insanely bad it all is. I really hope they're blacklisted among jap developers at the very minimum.
>>737729984>お兄ちゃんどいてそいつ殺せないThis is a reference to an old story on a textboard for Ragnarok Online. Even in F.O.E., a reference.
>>737730058you don't even need a study, no high-iq person would fuck up a war like this and ruin their reputation into the ground and speedrun their own destructionthey literally normalized the JQ and keep redpilling more people by doubling down on their jewery
>>737717858This one is disgusting
>>737718656Reddit
>>737730117It's crazy how the MC is just Pikamee crossed with Henya.
>Danganbabby is also attached to Pukey Goddess Shot TrickThe publisher probably signed some long term contract with them, RIP.
>>737729584>Am I wrong though?Yes. The only solution is unironic genocide on a global scale. Crossing your fingers and hoping an occupying force leaves is beyond retarded and even if we pretend it would happen(it wouldn't) it just kicks the can down the road to be your descendants problem as history shows even forced removal is only a temporary solution.
>>737730514Maybe the Yunyun retranslation guys will reassemble and unfuck that one too.This may end up as a back and forth pissing contest.
>>737725945Australia and New Zealand got a superior dub of Sakura
>>737730537>Crossing your fingers and hoping an occupying force leaves is beyond retardedAn occupying force is committing a criminal act. Defense against them is justified, and pursuit to extract damages is also justified. Taking and occupying their property is not. It's the difference between a cop searching a house and seizing a stolen ring, vs a cop searching a house and seizing everything of value.>it just kicks the can down the road to be your descendants problemForced removal has low success odds on a millennium scale. Genocide has even lower success odds. I'll admit I don't have a certain solution to that. I don't think there's any society that has truly rid itself of barbarians.
>>737730246Plenty of smart people have been undone by pride and by desire for vengeance before.
>>737730619>only 5 or 6 things changed in a whole script of trash>"unfucked"These trannoids' shlock needs to be thrown away entirely and an uninvolved third party who will actually respect the material needs to retranslate it from the ground up.
Insane tranny lingo aside, the fact that there are mistranslations that even a low level weeb armed with knowledge from /djt/ like me could spot is pretty crazy. How the fuck do you translate おじさん to Aussie? It's not even in katakana or some shit. Did they think they were being funny?
i don't know. i don't play games that poltranny localizers even touch
>>737731665>How the fuck do you translate おじさん to Aussie?The only remote string of logic behind that that I can think of is oji-san -> uncle -> aunt -> auntie -> aussieSome sort of bizarre chain of logic that only makes sense if you are autistic, retarded, on drugs, and translating a language you don't understand.
>>737713529Jesus Christ. Hope someone puts this motherfucker out of his misery. Japanese developers should ban him from ever touching their games ever again.
>>737713529People aren't transphobic enough to FtM's desu
>>737732178>translator was a female-to-male trannyThat explains the uterus line.
>>737732178FtMs are largely victims who will eventually detransition, as opposed to MtFs who are largely activist perverts. You're still right though, they will never be a man.
>>737717296what's your native language?
>>737713108Yunyun's getting all the attention, but the nosering fucker has meddled with this shotgun-roulette-like as well https://store.steampowered.com/app/4150720/PUKEY_GODDES_SHOT_TRICK/
>>737730058I have no more desire to go look up those studies than I do to watch a half-hour video, and since those are all real and frequent problems in many studies, I'll take your word for it.
>>737718593the translator here sounds like some sad fag who's never felt the love of a real woman
>>737731589I'm talking about the guys from steam, discord and /jp/ who assembled to retranslate the game, you retard
What are the ways to play this game that don't involve giving the localizer money? Are there any re-translations for this that are fully complete?
>>737732936There's a proper retranslation in progress right now by several people on the steam forums, a several people who originally came from discord and weren't insane trannies, and at least one /jp/ anon.Right now, the best you have available is one of the two text injection mechanisms they've collectively cooked up which can inject a MTL, but they're working on a complete retranslation.https://github.com/Radish-sys/yunyun-syndrome-patch (Steam user's work, hard-patches the game and is bugged partially, but uses more modern LLM output)https://github.com/funmaker/YunyunLocalePatcher (/jp/ anon's melonloader plugin, more properly hooks text, not game specific, not fully feature complete, uses a dogshit google MTL)
>>737732936Consultants have already had their payday. They don't get revenue.
>>737733369That should clue them in that they're not creatives. Otherwise they'd be getting residuals.
>>737732614Then we gotta message that dev as well
>>737733548That's not necessary, it's the same people who made this one (WHO YOU.)They know already.
>>737733623They SHOULD but if they're still willing to get the same team that destroyed his self-professed daughter to "fix" their current work AND work on their next, frankly he's also culpable for being so fucking stupid.Fool me once...
>>737734246The one thing I can say for sure is the most recent trailer had Dragonbaby shown as the localizer of it and that was clipped out entirely. I don't know if that's indicative of them being fired or simple damage control. On the other hand, English store assets were being uploaded today AFTER that happened and they're for one Drunken Goddess Reflex, so the title hasn't been corrected. Maybe it's just damage control.
>>737732882>discord and /jp/Sounds like it'll be more tranny slop all the same, then
>>737734820Yeah but it'll be accurate slop
>>737734820It was the guys who were bitching about the demo and got shut down, anon.
explain to me why should (you) and (I) care about this game. this type of game attracts egirls, vtubers and troons, which should automatically tell you that the game is trash and that no one should care about what happens to it except those groups of people i mentioned.
>>737735964You shouldn't. You should care about the other games this localization contractor has worked on.
>>737734820So true Soisis!
>>737735964>people moving into and becoming posers of a culture they did not stsrt>"yea it's like theirs now!"We all know what you are, Sharteen
>>737719449>EsperantoHeard about this shit since like 20 years ago, still useless today
>>737735964>>737736043vampire samefag
>>737736836Who?
she's right you know
>>737739492>please think of le heckin broader audience who won't get the japanese cultural references in this japanese game!
Speaking of AI translation, does GPT/Claude/etc. differ from traditional MTL like DeepL and Google Translate?
>>737735964Don't let cancer grow unchecked.
>>737739492Before anyone reply to this, I have to point out it's from bluesky.
>>737739492>game about a japanese otaku engaging in otaku activities and literally everything about the game is otaku centric>"Actually I will remove everything Otaku about it"Eat your motherfucking hamburger apolo
>>737739492カス is stronger than "loser" desu人間のカス "human trash"
>>737739492What's muffin jabroni
>>737713108Zaccacts fucking sucks though.
>>737713198Trannylator happened
>>737739492the epitome of what's wrong with the entire modern industry
isnt it insane that this was made to make fun of this exact thing happening 13 years ago? Nobody took it seriously then and now that the tumor has grown its time to chop it off
Do these trannylizers work remote or in japan? Because i have seen job openings for game localization in japan and they pay is horrible and since its based on projects, if no game is coming in you dont get hours nor payment and it would be really baffling in they purposly moved there, to make shit money while living in a culture they despise and purposly butcher their localization because of it
>>737740530It literally translates to "scum" and has the same usage linguistically in English too.
>>737740836"Well, THAT just happened!"
>>737717008I'm gonna make a game in mine and sue the dick off anyone attempting a translation
>>737713108END FASCISM!
>>737727027There's a difference between currency and private banking.
>>737713198I don't understand. This is on a whole different level from Metal Gear Solid's localization. How the fuck did we get here, man? When did the standard go out the fucking window? Its not even CLOSE.
>>737741379Leaving translation to the mentally ill
What I don't understand is why there is no any kind of japanese guy supervising localizes who are doing the job correctly. Like wtf, you don't want your product to have bad reputation to begin with.
>>737740836I think Whedon getting too popular to the point where his writing style has influenced an entire generation is just half of the equation. The other half is millenials and their inability to be genuine. It's like they're terrified of being invested in something and feeling actual emotion, so everything has to be filtered through a thick layer of irony and smug detachment, every potential emotional moment undercut with something mood-annihilating, just as long as it doesn't look like you're getting invested, because being invested is lame (see also: "Dude it's fantasy, how can you even say this or that doesn't fit, but dragons and elves are okay?"). It's like some kind of generational damage. And it's those millenials who're now getting the big writing jobs as the old guard is getting replaced.
>>737741379I don't think Japanese have someone internal to double check the translation from these localizer.And somehow Jew again.
>>737713108I hope a radical otaku in Japan kicks the shit out the retarded translator who butchered the script.
>>737713529>removed haruhi and NHK referencesthis is worse than the fascist nonsense. fuck this guy.
>>737719082Fuck kanji, fuck kanji, fuck kanji, fuck kanjinehakayesnsbskehwbsbsh ueywjabshakabsbsbsb
>>737739492
>>737713529Japan should learn to double check their hired localizers.
>>737715141japanese devs think western translators will do right by them which is why this will keep happening until someone watches over them like a hawk, why do you think translators were all throwing a fit about westerners and japanese people being able to hold conversations on x a few weeks ago
>>737741731It's really time to use AI for translation
>>737741681localization makes no sense when everyone around the globe speaks english
maybe this is a blessing. Japan will be especially mad of the otaku references being replaced with political shit. This is how we purge them from the industry.
>>737739492"because they wanted to replace"it's your job to translate 1:1 not exercise editorial control you STUPID TROON FAGGOT
>>737734246Generally it's easier to start hounding the existing translation team as you can cite a bunch of things and threaten them more effectively and not end up spending more. Starting with a new completely new team means you're also starting a new relationship, very likely doing a TEP (TL + editing + proofreading) all over again, the time for which can easily stretch over a month (depending on amount of text) and mounting costs. Even though entertainment media always paid the lowest rates, it can still be a lot of words and the dev unfortunately does have to consider whether it's worth the 200% investment. What's worse is they likely spent enormous amounts on TL already, since as this issue is not present in other languages, that means those TLs were JP>X, rather than JP>EN>X, which can cost enormous amounts depending on how rare that combination is.
>>737713529Oh, no wonder this game doesn't show up on my steam, deserved
This shitfest makes think how many AAA-AA and indie games got mangled by shitty or evil translation teams over the years.Reminds me of Wild Arms 2, E.Y.E and Lobotomy Corp
>>737741731That sounds highly irregular. Normally you have the translation pass QA though proofreaders, native speakers, specialists and whatnot. It's frequent that the translation goes back with a list of guidelines to improve it.
>>737718123For BS2 you needed to be a Carrollfag with obscene knowledge about obscure fairy tale references for.Hopefully rarecats isn't actually dead and comes back but that is probably a pipe dream.
>>737742171Unfortunately that's a user tag from a corrupt discord that wants everything to be pozzed faggot shit
>>737741592nigger you are using AIyou are almost as bad as that troon
>>737742372no, AI would be better cause AI wouldnt change "yamero" to "fascist" unless a retard trained the model.
>>737742372Nta but i use everything that troons hate and AI is mostly hated by them
Everyone says "tranny" but he just looks like an adult Bring Me The Horizon fan.
>>737713529So will it get fixed?
>>737742372Sloppa is shit but still preferable to localization. I would prefer human shit if possible, but localizers aren't human either.
>>737715141I don’t believe that the developer was manipulated or that he fell victim to some rebellious translator acting on their own initiative behind his back.Just by looking at the various localization files (even without being able to read them) it’s clear that the English one doesn’t match the others. He likely wanted a distinct English localization and even went out of his way to use a different company from the other languages. I think the plan was to target the bluesky crowd that swarms his Discord and he hadn’t anticipated that genuine overseas fans would take an interest in the game (of course, the retarded translator was told he could make a few changes to make the text sound more like the western internet and he went way too far beyond what would be considered acceptable)
>>737742627I think so.Dev is at least aware
>>737742661I think it's more likely the dev wasn't in the loop to begin with. It appears the localization was chosen by the publisher. And the dev doesn't speak burger to begin with either, so without someone who does telling the them what's up it's not like they really would know.
>>737742181Wait they fucked up E.Y.E.'s translation? How so?
>>737742372Please refer to the chartHuman translator>>>AI with human editing>>>>>>AI sloppa>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*power gap*>>>>>>>>*power gap*>>>>>>>*power gap*>>>>>>>literal dog shit>>>>>*power gap*>>>>English localizer
>>737742181>names kino TLsJust read the room
>>737739492Is jabroni even an actual insult? I just thought it was some forced meme version of saying bro.
>>737742498It's a female pretending to be a male
>>737742949Fine, Fire Emblem
>>737743061stop making waves
>>737742661Considering how this shit goes in less professional scenes(aka not nearly the same number of checks and balances) They'll send through select lines to show that they're doing a good job. These will be the one's that aren't insanely egregious making them appear to be doing a proper job.Then as we know the troons have infested the official discord so if any criticism is raised they'll run damage control and claim it's one or two people trying to start shit.That's how this kind of shit always happens.
>>737742661It's very obvious the dev got scammed by them. He had to rush the patch, use a machine translation to communicate instead of through them, asked players feedback directly without the localizer help, and so on.
>>737742798They didn't, it's just as schizo in french as in english. English just has grammar mistakes and stuff like that which makes it wierder.
>>737742798Your legs are in fact not ok.
we should create a blacklist of companies and translators to help the japanese avoid them
>>737742758It's true that the publisher is certainly very involved. But whether it was a decision made by the publisher or by the dev himself, the idea is that this localization was not done in secret by the translator and that someone in a decision-making position planned/approved it for a marketing/business reason.>>737743119The company that did the English localization worked on the dev previous dev and there was no problem like this.>>737743135False, everything you said is the result of the backlash and has nothing to do with him being scammed or not. He didn't blammed the translation company anywhere and made the good PR move of listening to the fans. The scam part is all in your head.
>>737743145Oh, that's ok then. Bad grammar is tolerable enough. I have a hard time getting into the stories for overseas games since there's always this lurking worry that I might be getting a "Wrong" version of the story read to me.
I bought the yunyun game before I knew about the translation shittery. Would there maybe be a mod/patch that would put in a more faithful translation or should I just not even start the game up and just get a refund through Steam?
>>737743249The problem is if he continues using them they will just keep gaslighting them while doing very minimal lazy hack job fix like the vandals they are.
>>737743340Then these liar vandals will keep spreading false info like the dev asking them to butcher the English version. They will keep lying and try to blame the naive dev.
>>737739823(very difficult and niche europoor language)Google Translate has gotten substantially better, but retains the stigma of being dogshitDeepL used to be really good, but got really badly lobotomized somewhere early 2025. It's possible that Pro still retains how decent it was, but I never bothered to go after it.Claude's alright.Gemini's arlight.GPT has been the best, although it struggles sometimes with context and consistency (even if you specify things), continues to very confidently say complete dogshit and for whatever bizarre reason sometimes outputs typos.
>>737743307Just get a refund, and put that as the refund reason. The dev will see it, and be more motivated to fix down the line seeing as it's costing him money. You can always buy it again after it's been fixed which is slightly more likely to happen well if you refund it, and you can always wait for a sale.If you're desperate to play it even with the translation, you could probably just pirate it anyways.
I love that the localizers are now shifting the blame lmao >>737742661
>>737743340I don’t want to see that sort of localization either but the fact is it was not vandalism.This backlash is a good thing, not because "we’ve exposed trannies ruining our games", but because the developer is now aware that skibidi rizz-style localizations are not popular and there's now pressure on the publisher side to not make the same mistake again.
>>737729890He's said he's starting with the obvious stuff and going to review the whole script. Poor fucker is going to find out it's a teardown.
>>737742993
>>737743653WHAT?
>All of the Japanese text was written and crafted by me personally and I also worked very closely with our localization teams in English from the very start to create a version that represents my vision for Yunyun and Qtie's world. The scenario itself is something I carefully wove together over a long period of time with my own thoughts and emotions included in it deeply.The dev is pozzed
>>737721302like every other AI related thing, good enough for porn, not good enough for actual media
>>737743430>for whatever bizarre reason sometimes outputs typos.I can explain this one. AI is in general trained using datasets scraped from social media. And a lot of people are fucking retarded. It doesn't actually think and just regurgitates patterns and so if the data set has enough typos in it the AI cannot tell the difference between them and proper spelling.
>>737743554It's not even about trannies or left or right, this shit has happened way too often either way to books, games, anime, etc because the localizers think they are better than the author.I hope the same as you for the end result though, no more skibidi jelly donut shit.
>>737743727>very gay preaseExplain the other languages.
>>737744042MTL'd
>>737744042Other languages don't matter
>>737744042the US is the only country where this brainrot has taken root so deeply
>>737744042Spanish and Russian didn't say mo gay mo money. Devarupa sama doesn't care if it doesn't stack yen.
>>737744042The dev focused on Japanese (he made the text himself) and English (he asked the company that handled his previous game's localization to handle it). For other languages, he used another company with partial MTL because it wasn't as important as a business strategy. Since the English version was handled by a real human, the dev or his publisher asked to give the text a more western internet feel and the translator went full retard.
>>737743565That's the absolute best case scenario, but pretty unlikely.
>>737744224We can cross that bridge when we get to it.
Liberals aren't going to be troonslating some Ruskie shit whereas they are embedded in the weeb sphere trying to indoctrinate kids through distortion of Japanese media.
>>737713108>no raising concerns/outrage about possible malicious translations by anti-western antifascist terrorists allowed on our forums! REE!!!Alright, someone should actually sue these "localizers" for pushing domestic terrorist propaganda imo.
>>737713108I don't support ANTIFA terrorism so yeah into the trash it goes.
Is there anything you need to do differently to hit the golden notes?
>>737742661completely altering the script without the JP dev knowing is sabotage. this faggot should be sued.
>>737718404>rare_cats is gone
>>737713529What does kiiii mean?
>>737746061Sound of intense seething.
>>737715785While the MGS translation took a lot of liberties it's the only MGS besides MGS5 that is not full of retarded directly translated lines.
another English retranslation just got releasedhttps://github.com/qdenpa-receiver/yunyun-faithful-english-patch
You guys told me that the localization sucks because the memes are TikTok brainrot and the game is supposed to be all early 2000s shit but the references are all over the place. Vtubers and 'ojisan koubun' are definitely mostly 2020s things. Why did you lie to me?
>>737746061reeeeee
>>737744712It's clear that the social media people are running cover for the trannylators. Trying to write all this shit off as chud harassment. Trying to keep whatever discussion areas free from this. Well, one of the things localization promises is lack of controversy.>>737743554>>737744201I don't believe that whoever did the English version did it competently or in good faith. But lets be fair. Lets see some other translations that this person did.>>737746061Technically short for キモい Kimoi, which is short for 気持ち悪い Kimochi warui, with the IIIIII that you see from girls on TV shows where they make an idol eat a bug or let lizards crawl on their forheads. Note the katakana use for emphasis. >>737746103>>737746389Riiiii is from the frog. Kiiiii is more disgust than rage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBxn56l9WcUSee also frogposters.
>>737746359Sorry anon. Your pretending to be stupid act will get you nowhere.
>>737746205"a lot of liberties" isn't the core problem. The core problem is that blausitien fucked up some goddam core concepts of the thesis of the game and got it literally backwards, like the shit about dominant genetics.It was a different era, and it was an incredibly hard job, with primitive tools so I'm willing to give him more leeway than I am with this garbage.
>>737713108Remember this game when localization retards tell you that bad translations are ok because the devs must have "approved" them when they shipped them in the game
>>737743249Prove that it's a biz reason on the part of the publisher. It's just as plausible that the localization sold them on a sack of lies.>The company that did the English localization worked on the dev previous dev and there was no problem like this.Alright, I'm going to believe you, withoutt checking. Lets say the company can do a good job. Was it the same translators?
>>737743249>there was no problem like thisAs I'm sure you've worked out from any localizer drama if there's memes, jokes or comedy involved in any serious part they'll go full mask off. NGO wasn't nearly as heavy on meme culture as Yunyun
>>737746635The most effective weapon is the round trip translation. >>737742758You notice the dev didn't go through the publisher social media people or the translators in question. He went direct to the public with MTL, and made a point of saying that was the case.
>>737743249>worked on the dev previous devWhat?
>>737746810You'll have to forgive anon. xe's doing xer best to push all the blame to the dev and publisher and away from the translator who thought yamero should read as END FACISIM, and Kiiiiii should read as ok white knight.
>>737713108I have to assume the twitter auto-translate goes both ways. Now people can actually show the devs their works are being defaced.
>>737725189the problem is jews, actually
>>737747027Effectively. Before, when I would let devs know what the shit actually said in English, they would sometimes just check with their english speaking social media and jannies, but now they can double check for themselves. Particularly on something like this>:可哀想じゃない?kawaisou janai?Close translation would be "isn't it pittiful". Potential alternate is "It doesn't deserve pity", in some contexts. What they ACTUALLY put was >Little grey guys want the animu.
>>737726623no, but europe and america are being filled with pakistanis because of jews
>>737746950Was that a typo, or some broken English, or I'm just too ESL to understand?
>>737713108>buy trash games>get trash localizationNo idea why the fuck you'd purchase this shit. The holds up spork of videogames.
>>737747487Xe and Xer are neo pronouns for non binaries that some of the "too cool for gender" types are using. It's also a loose reference to an infamously bad localizaiton where they took the lack of gender markers in the text as permission to add the neopronouns.
>>737730134They both read like a shitpost.
>>737747540This one is especially bad, and the company paid money for this, and the translation company also wants to work on games that aren t' complete jokes. Sure, its>Holds up sporkbut that doesn't mean it should be mangled to >My spork of destiny kills facists.
>>737747672The JP side is like reditors on a good day shitposting. The other side reads like sharty or banned from kfarms kind of shitposting.
>>737743727I can see that. Even other translations have minor errors. They totally went cheap for it.
>>737713108MISIDE is about how men retreat to fictional women as they can't handle a woman having actual emotions and being a real human with a complex personality. MISIDE is about misogyny.
>>737746024rare_cats works for otaku plan now. BS on steam uses his translation and there is this
>>737746359>ojisan koubun>2020'sit actually isn't even though the song came out last year ojiisankoubun is not a new concept. And while VTubers themselves were officially titled around 2017-2018 technicalities put VTubing at around the 2012 range thanks to NND avatar streams as well as Nitroplus' Super Sonico stuff.
>>737746538>I don't believe that whoever did the English version did it competently or in good faith.Because you don't understand what was asked of him.Translators aren’t always asked to translate things as faithfully as possible. That’s what I’d prefer too, but in reality they’re often given additional directives based on the target audience. In this case, he most likely had permission to alter the script to make it feel more like modern "zoomer" internet language.People were already criticizing this approach when the demo released. Lines like "END FASCISM", "LET HER COOK" and "i'd cut my uterus out if i cld" reflect the translator's interpretation of modern internet culture. Because he exists in a leftist online bubble, he likely thought this was good localization.Your worldview is so different from his that it’s hard for you to see how he arrived at those choices, so the conclusion becomes that it must have been done in bad faith. I think it’s a garbage translation, but blaming the translator alone ignores a much bigger part of the problem.The dev worked closely with the localization team. It was not vandalism, he was given permission to make those retarded changes.
>>737718593the translator here sounds like a based aryan who has the adoration of many women
>>737718263>c2 levelthat's a joke. you can't write a cover letter. you can't write tale or short story. you can't write a proper, credible review or critique. you can't write a newspaper articlei.e. the cefr is a meme
>>737713108>The favorite games of the most unlikable person you know Don't get your dick stuck on your way out of the closet, FAG!!
>>737748593You can absolutely write a cover letter at C2 level. You can write a cover letter at freaking B2 level.
Why is this even allowed? When in almost all fields you will be fired for doing shit job or even sued if you do it on purpose.
>>737726413The problem isn't fiat itself so much as the public/private abomination that is the federal reserve
>>737748431And the reason everyone calls your reddit spacing ass out on this is that the entire game has a central focus that completely falls apart if you do what that retarded troon did.2000's-2010's era shitposting and Denpa. The entire premise falls apart if you change the era of meme culture and we all know that the developer/writer KNOWS FOR A FACT that it's key to the experience so why would he even give that kind of directive? It makes no sense. So no one believes your lying, nigger-worshipping, cum-guzzling ass for a second because you'd have to be openly saying the dev of the actual game didn't know anything about Denpa and that era of meme culture and shitposting which considering how accurate it is in it's origin language(Japanese) makes your entire claim a load of cancer-ridden BULLSHIT
They're so desperate to blame the dev, looks like they really got cornered this time.
>>737748782They were caught with their pants down, balls-deep in a child. They can't turn it around or say "uh, it's not what you think." It just won't work this time. They went too far and fucked up hard.
>>737746347neat
>>737748727Retard, that's because B2 is way higher than C2. That's how grades go.
>>737748782Messing with western denpa fans (read: schizophrenic NEET oldfags) was a really bad idea on their part.
>dev did this>all other translations are fineA lot troonlators post on /vee/ desu. Like the one anon who posts his "EOP vpol culture warriors!" in SAGA threads defending troonslation. And arguing for 10+ hours about how he's not a culture warrior chud from 4chan.
>>737727998That's correct but speculation over land naturally leads to degenerate, rent-seeking behavior. That's not even a far left point, this was pointed out by Adam Smith. Rent-seeking leads to artificial scarcity and only creates inefficiencies. Landlords are not real entrepreneurs nor are they workers.
>>737746538There was a literal steam tranny with a loli avatar that spoke like a nigger from here defending it spouting the typical shit that you see here when they start to gaslight people into something not being real and all in your head when its the fact. Someone should lock those faggot niggers up for what's on their PC lmao. (probably real, not even just fictional CP.)
>>737732603Finnish. Practically nothing outside the mainstream gets translated since almost everyone, especially people who are into games and anime are proficient in English anyways, and use it to consume Japanese and other foreign media.>>737748593>>737748915You're mixing things up. A1 is the lowest level, C2 is the highest in CEFR.
>>737748431The game wasn't about modern internet culture but 2ch culture from 00s and 10s. Similar to what was OG 4chan culture. Fuck off tranny. No... Shoot yourself you bitch. We don't want your ANTIFA propaganda.
>>737748727>You can absolutely write a cover letter at C2 levelnot a convincing one. you will slip up and that will give you away like a shibboleth
>>737735964trannies will tell you Titty Bullets 5 is a tranny game cause it has anime girls. no shit the game is appealing to straight men when it has a cute neet with big boobies
>>737748762>>737749090The developer was clearly fine with adapting parts of the game to Western sensibilities. He refers to Q-chan as “Qtie” himself and said he worked closely with the localization team.What he likely didn’t realize was the extent of how much the script had been changed, since he can’t read English and trusted the team after having worked with that company before. In hindsight, that seems obvious to you, but he probably wasn’t thinking that deeply about it during production.You can keep blaming the translator if you want, but the whole “rogue translator secretly sabotaging Japanese games behind the developer’s back” narrative doesn’t make sense in this case.
>>737749174Fuck off vampire
>>737749174And that point has already been addressed you reddit-spacing, lying niggerfaggot right here >>737743119
>>737715861Yeah idk what happened but they went full "transgender-led"(quote from the site) with a "weird" style>>737721845Russia also has lgbt as illegal so I hear anime and manga are censored. Double edged sword I guess.>>737732614People pointed it out on twitter if that helps.
>>737749140This, God gave you one language to start with and that's the only one you're meant to and will be able to create in. Any attempts beyond that may be well be considered a linguistic form of trannyism.
>>737749174Those aren't western sensibilities found anywhere but California. He was misled. The fact that they would use "Fascism" instead of "Tyranny" or "Oppression" (both accurate descriptions of what 2chan would use since they are Libertarians/Fascists/Monarchists/Nationalists/Capitalists.) Is a mis-step and the fact they are constantly trying to virtue signal to "own the hecking chuds" is an obvious tell-tale sign they are pushing ANTIFA (domestic terrorist group) messaging and is inexcusable.
>>737713529treating americans like they dont know what niconicodouga is if they're buying this game in the first place is an insult to our intelligence
>>737749174I kinda doubt the dev was on board with translating ディープステート (deep state) as bourgeoisie.
>>737749361Imagine scrubbing the words "deep state" completely out of a game about conspiracy shitposts.
>>737743119we had a forum for MN9 that went into an uproar. mods + 1 very dedicated shill then spent a lot of effort breaking everyone's will until we just wrote the whole thing off and abandoned the forum completely.
https://x.com/elvenmaidinn/status/2048487683236970582If this is to be believed then the sister of the night in the woods creator who threw him under the bus after zoey quinn accused him of sexual assault is involved in these localization studios.The leader of the studio is also the guy who raped the MGS1 translation so much Kojima got assmad and severed ties.Its fucked up that we still keep seeing the same old names fucking shit up. Its all rotten to the core and connected.
>>737749361Why the fuck is the deep state the one they censor if not for leftist antifascist/anarcho-communist statement? See? I was right. They are speaking the same language as me and the conspiracy theorists from the "Fringe Right-Libertarian Sphere" (like Bill Cooper) not californian communist.
>>737749467Oh yeah, MN9 went to hell with that controversy. Doesn't help that one mod or whatever decided to let his ugly feminist fuckbuddy in.
>>737749497when even a typical communist/champaign socialist supporter tells you to eat shit you should notice.
>>737713108If you want translations/localizations to change you need to speak directly to the devs in their native language, not complain in English in a mongolian basket weaving forum.If the original writers knew how drastically the translations are changing the meaning they wouldn't be going along with it.
>>737749295you can reach that level, it's just ball-bustingly hard and you're probably going to need a native to check your stuffyou aren't gonna be able to deceive people poking holes in your knowledge though (commercials, pop culture references, childhood experiences, folk songs and lullabies, etc.)
This kind of thing doesn't happen when American-made games are localized for other countries. Very American thing.
>>737749684>Very American thingdid you know localization used to be known as americanization? that more than explains everything
>>737749229>>737749317>>737749361It doesn’t matter whether the dev knew about the worst individual lines or not. I already said he likely didn’t realize the full extent of the changes because he can’t read English.More importantly, the decision to localize the game this way typically isn’t made unilaterally by a translator. That kind of direction usually comes from the dev and/or publisher. And since he himself said he worked closely with the localization team, it’s reasonable to assume he was aware of the broader approach.What should matter here isn’t that the translator interpreted “deep state” as “bourgeoisie”, but that he was given permission to make changes like that by whoever was actually responsible for approving the localization strategy.
>>737749728>he's still trying to get us to attack the devCan you fuck off, please?
>>737749728>And since he himself said he worked closely with the localization team, it’s reasonable to assume he was aware of the broader approach.I doubt it considering just how quickly he took to changing the lines. He seems as shocked as everyone else.
>>737749728No one believes a word you say
>the fan translation threads on Steam were all just deleted
>>737749706I doubt whether the "Americanization" of this game will be well-received by American gamers....
>>737749728Suck off some niggers elsewhere tranny. Follow your leader and jump off a bridge.
>>737749814
>>737749728The circus is over there.
>>737713529LOLin the second half of the 20th century, the US was the example of professionalism, kind of like Germany used to be.Now you see everyone else doing things right, and then you see the US example and there’s a bunch of people completely out of their minds screwing everything up for the whole world to see.
>>737746347The thread this guy made on Steam just got deleted.
>>737749673Which is why it's kind of pointless to even try.
So, the next time these localizers try to do another job, all we have to do is call for them to "End Fascism," right?
>>737749947They don't want their game to be any further mocked.
>>737750017When will the Japanese realize that fan translators aren't their enemy?
>>737750046I don't know. A lot of them have a real bone to pick with fan works.
>>737749852He was shocked because he probably expected the localization to be well received and believe it or not, discord zoomers likely did prefer that style.My guess is that he also had an English MTL version from the other company handling the additional languages and used that as a reference when putting together the initial patch.I also haven’t seen any statement from him explicitly condemning the localization team, and he still appears to be working with them.
>>737728906No one can understand Finnegans Wake. It's a literary attempt by Joyce to gain immortality through obscurity. Also helps if you read it out loud and try to sound as Irish as you can. But. The point is mostly that while you can be remarkably fluent, there's a difference to vocab recall and you won't have the same "feel" for what's idiomatic/natural and what's not. Would be very funny if they made you read like Ulysses, though, as if gamers read much at all.
>>737750091>believe it or not, discord zoomers likely did prefer that styleOh, I believe it, but those "people" don't actually care about anything but the surface appearance of a game and whether they can post screenshots of the first five seconds on tiktok for internet good boy points.
>>737750091>discord zoomers likely did prefer that style.No, no they did not. I don't know if you know this put people have been tearing this translation apart. I have never seen such a brutal dismantling of a game's localization before.
>>737750046HORREE SHIITTO ITS NOT REGARI PAY REGAR TEAM WITH TLOON TO TLANSLATE GAMESTOP PILATING THE GAME WHITE PIGGU
>>737718516>>737718487>>737718404Hi hi anon working for Otaku here. Currently working on a kamige farming game that'll come out in like a month. Please buy it on release. If DRH is something that gets localized, we'll make sure it's handled well dw. BS is a fantastic IP for us.We've been trying to improve our translations standards a lot lately, I hope that's visible in the games we release.
>>737750046Nips are very weird when it comes to the integrity of a work and will usually defer to translators mostly because that's official and therefore professional. Altering the original work as a third party without being contracted to is considered disrespectful, but derivative works aren't, which is why you see this disconnect of a shitzillion fangames for stuff, while modding and game preservation are seen as evil. I reckon a great deal of it is simply because they never had that period of mod-heavy gaming that informed the western PC-sphere, like with Warcraft 3, UT, Quake, Doom etc.
>>737750091>believe it or not, discord zoomers likely did prefer that style.Proof? Where's the proof tronny loony?
>>737750091I can't read the other languages but can tell if I can read the root when they are agreeing or not when shown side-by-side. I am not even a linguist educated on the topic and the whole AI vs Human thing is solved: Use AI. Don't editorialize to match a culture that only locals care about.
>>737749068I knew it, dude. I was the other guy talking about fluency and Pynchon etc., complaining that my native language is a pointless one to know apropos translations, because, yes, Finnish as well. I remember the early 2000s, when the demograhic distribution of the Web was very different, and practically every fifth person you'd come across was Finnish. Alas, gone are those times.
>>737750091>I also haven’t seen any statement from him explicitly condemning the localization teamI doubt you ever will, but that's more of a JP thing. Even if there's wrongdoing, it just doesn't get blown wide open like you'd have in the west, it's not part of corporate or professional culture.
>>737750248Finnish is just an awkward language to translate to content-wise that's different than ours. Remember Harry Potter PS1 dubs? kek.
>>737750248Smartphones ruined the internet. I want to go back.
>>737750228Here
>>737750374hyper overpopulation from places like india and africa + the smartphone ruined the internet.
>>737750318My language is a distant cousin, and honestly the only reason I'll have an income in the foreseeable future still is because even with AI, my language just really-really sucks to deal with.
>>737750374Yep, remove smartphones and suddenly all the third worlders who wouldn't use the net would get fucked out of here. Most troll-farms use chained up smartphones and AI agents to spam shit to sites like 4chan etc. You can see it during promotions of games during launch week.
>>737750417>rando from bskyMight as well be someone from Dragonbaby.
>>737719586The Lizard Bill.
>>737750417>1view>1 hearthlol
>>737750165>>737750162I’ve seen a few retards amused by some of those lines, but that’s beside the point. The localization was clearly trying to appeal to a specific English-speaking audience, and from a business perspective, it was a massive mistake.>>737750247I 100% agree, just make sure whoever is prompting actually knows the target language and proofreads the output.>>737750278Their next game has already been announced, so we’ll see whether the developer continues working with them.
>>737750448Inkeri or Karelian or some weird Uralic language?
I would believe the "poor innocent dev" narrative if it wasn't for the fact that people directly complained to him about the translation 6 months prior during the beta. At this point it's blatantly obvious to me that they knowingly went for the zoomer brainrot angle to try and capture all the self-professed Ame-chans who hooked on to NGO. And now he's going to go on a crusade against fan translators for "disrespecting his creative vision". What a sorry state.
>>737750496It was trying to appeal to the team that localized it and that's it.
>>737750516i have a feeling that they don't give a shit about other countries
>>737750502Uralic, south of Sweden
>>737750516To be fair, fan translations are technically a violation of the berne convention and if Japanese people don't go after them, it reflects badly on them in a legal sense for keeping their work's copyright intact.This is one of those strange cultural differences.
>>737750550rip brain cells there for sure.
>>737750545As a japanese dev he doesn’t care about filthy gaijins but his publisher is making a lot of money from overseas sales.
>>737750417>troonsky imageyou need to kill yourself. i'm dead serious, you need to kill yourself as soon as possible. there's no way you think anyone from a site that died near instantaneously is an accurate of anyone except the most insufferable millennials alive
False alarm on the fan translation thread getting deleted.Blame Steam.
>>737750780Bullshit, OP likely just got threatened with a Steam ban. The head mods on Steam are known to do that.
>>737750742Here you go. Let me know how many pictures of people going "LOL" at these translations you need before you admit some people liked it, I can keep going for a while.
>>737750868bluesky is a niggeradoodle place for ANTIFA-coded trannies to rant about muh evil TRUMPF once they got upset at Musk buying Xitter and celebrating random deaths of their political enemies. Does that place sound like it represents everyone?
>>737750860We'll see if the thread shows back up, I don't know if you've noticed but comment reviews have been taking like four minutes on the steam forum right now
>>737750923You're replying to an X screenshot
>>737750780Kek, someone who's been trying to blame the dev got btfo again
>>737750868>236 viewsvs>1million you are retarded
>>737713108>>737713529Why the FUCK are Americans like this?
>>737750949And what are the odds the person shares the same sentiments as a bluesky user and has an account there too? What did they say about Charlie Kirk?>>737713529Yep its their personal vendetta it seems and they are acting in bad faith just like any poster defending them and localization. They are the same people.
>>737750374>>737750434It's so bad, now. And it's getting much worse, faster and faster.
>>737750951I wasn't trying to blame the dev. I've just been watching this shit like a hawk.You have to admit that thread disappearing would have been pretty worrying.
>>737750868Again, that's just some rando. Might as well be the translator's themselves writing that.
>>737751150brace up for impact hommie, they already invaded the internet and now they are invading your country.
>>737751150You don't have to talk to any of those people. You can literally just build your own community and kick out anyone who makes you mad.
>>737751150Why did you delete and repost this twice? Do you not know how this site works?
>>737751219>just make your own [thing]!fuck off
>>737751219Where? Discord is a no-go, altchans die instantly, everywhere online is taken over. I feel like I'm huddling around a dwindling fire while the world around me gets colder and darker. There's no escape.>>737751240I edited it poorly and wanted to choose years farther apart. That was my bad.
>>737713201>The latter was already a tranny game.fuck you, I'm sick of ceding ground to trannies
>>737751150The everyday life you take for granted will one day crumble. It is what it is.
>>737751274>Where?We've all been on IRC for the last 20+ years bro...
>>737751279Anime is tranny-adjacent by default
>>737751314IRC is also dying. Every channel on Rizon I used to hang in is dead.The only currently alive places on IRC are FOSS project channels on libera and those are all filled with discord types.
>>737751219Whew gee lad, Andrew Torba tried doing just that and got banned from banking and deplatformed instantly by Jewish interests. Jew controlled goyim grid.>>737751274You guys could make a Matrix hang-out chatroom or something.>>737751314IRC is dead though nobody will go to an IRC chat since its outdated and clunky unless you were already using it prior the current internet.
>>737751389You should join #/vt/, it's where uncles watch vtubers together (1500+ lines a day guaranteed)
>>737750572Fan works and translations are generally protected under fair use, especially if the translation itself is distributed independently from the main work (e.g., subtitles, game patches, etc.). I don't think there's ever been a case of a copyright holder going to trial against a fantranslator or group.
>>737751573Japan doesn't have any concept of fair use.
>>737751573Usually because they get DMCA'd and comply even with the slightest official sounding pressure from the developer because they don't want to mess with the motherbase.
>>737751274there's nothing wrong with discord.
>>737716912>Just play on one of the other handful of languages.Or how about they do their fucking job properly?
>>737751714They also don't have English fan translators.>>737751742No, they never go to court over it. I've been challenged by Japanese companies before, and every time I tell them to lawyer up, they never do.If you're not making any money, it's hard for them to do much.
Maybe westerners shouldn't consume Japanese media at all. In the west we have our own videogames, cartoons and comic books.
>>737751749There are MANY things wrong with discord.Any public discord inevitably has a powertripping tranny mod. Also not going to let you forget that Discord wants my federal ID now.
>>737751749Practically every server I've been in has a rainbow flag logo and makes you self-censor so hard that you can't really talk about anything. This is the only place where I can criticise, for instance, Yunyun's localisation without having to set up defenses first that no I'm /not/ a chud and I'm not just doing this because trannies (sorry, banned) are doing it ideologically (queue 2-hour lecture from mods).
>>737751873Yeah, that's also my experience.I've tried to use that place on three occasions and it's been like that every time.
>>737751838why would you run a public discord server>>737751873why would you join discord servers like that
>>737728906>reading Finnegan's Wake first lines..This author be fucking trolling eyo! What the fuck is this shit nigger? I switched my accent to nigger from a black hood to match my confusion!
>>737751949>why would you run a public discord serverGee I don't fucking know, why would you run a public IRC channel or a public forum or a public imageboard
>>737752042Discord is a lost cause anon, the fact they'll fully force and enforce the age-check and image ID laws is dangerous. Steam will never need to do this so I'm safe.
>>737751992You gotta really read Ulysses (which requires at least Hamlet + Iiad + Odyssey as background, also ideally Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man) to see what he's trying to do. This is high modernism, his magnum opus, to carve his name into history with the allusive depth hitherto unknown to literature. It's confusing and digressive, but you shouldn't mistake that confusion as a lack of meaning.
>>737752042all of those bad ideas desu except for anon image boards.
>>737752102I'm not defending the platform, it's dogshit and I'm still mad it killed IRCBut asking why you would run a public site or forum or whatever is a stupid question, a chat group with friends is obviously not the same thing as an attempt to produce a discussion hub
Translate authentically and take the pani poni dash approach and just have a fuckhuge document with all your TL notes.
>>737727027>>737727065>>737741295If you're genuinely interested in the subject but aren't studying economics and/or finance, I'd suggest you watch the money masters on YouTube.
>>737750516/threadSkibidi denpa was from October. Even people on discord were complaining about it but now the chat history has been deleted
>>737752105Those things are at least mostly in plain language. Finngean's Wake is just plain borderline terminally online precursor type of trollish attempt at satirical language use utilizing English, yes, but mostly exchanging common words for those of rarer appearances and foreign origins to make it as much of a confusing mess as a statement. I do understand he was just trying to fuck with expectations but that's just cancer only cure-able by eyebleach. Its quite literally "if an Ai is allowed to go haywire, this is what English looks like to it."
>>737752168TL notes are often unnecessary. A lot of this perceived nuance being lost is just the localizer's headcanon.
>>737752260The loss of forums has had a nice contribution to making the young generations basically exist "outside history." Information just disappears because it's catalogued inside ephemeral Discord servers.
>>737752315Which is a bad thing, since you can and should be shamed for being a retard, regardless if you're a retard now or 10 years ago.
>>737752382yupgenuinely fuck that information blackhole
>>737752382I was being a little ironic with the "nice," yes. I don't think anyone but those born with iPads in their faces would consider the loss of history as a good thing. Or Dedalus, with "History is a nightmare from which I am trying to awake."
translate things literally>but muh nuance, japanese is untranslateable abloo abloooadd popup TL notes on hover>but i don't care. translate things literally
>>737752382>you shouldn't be allowed to grow from one bad mistake.that's a bad mentality, sure keep them accountable but live and let live if its nothing serious. humans in general learn and grow from mistakes, that's why the opposite of human is God who can't make mistakes in theory.
>>737752501Who are you quoting?
Did they fix EN with yesterday's patch? I was going to refund if they didn't but if they actually did then I'll forgive.
>>737752630"you should be shamed for being a retard." is the mentality those types of people have that won't let one mistake go and keep bringing it up. we get it, shit sucked, grow up.
>>737752653Don't forgive, tell the devs to suck nigger dicks instead. They censor any speech they think hurts their trannylator team's feelings. That alone deserves unsupport/flag button.
>>737752665This is an argument for allowing people to be anonymous or pseudonymous on the internet instead of using their real name.>>737752653No. It's still a work-in-progress, but you're better off placing bets on the people working on a fan translation at this point, since the devs still trying to tardwrangle Dragonbaby instead of firing them because they don't understand that it was malicious.
>>737752720Shut the fuck up vampire
>>737752776They are anti-fascists I'm pretty sure they screech in discord private messages about wanting to kill Trumpf and celebrate death of Kirk.
>>737752776Rip, that's fucking nuts because if I pulled that shit at my job I'd be fired frame one. Some people really can just get away with murder huh.
>>737752832shut up nigger, nobody cares about your starving Trump whipped ass.
>>737717858Imagine if you didn't want kids and someone asked you if you wanted kids and you replied "I'd cut out off my testicles if I could". The localized line in there would be a hysterectomy while the male equivalent is a vasectomy that is merely blocking or cutting the tube from the testicles. But stating you would "cut out your uterus" is just so extreme and just a vivid and grotesque way of implying you don't want kids to the point of self mutilation, when you could opt for "tying tubes" (blocking the fallopian tubes to prevent eggs from entering the uterus) to imply the same thing.In other words, it's an extreme and absurd line that only a mentally ill and socially deaf person who only lives in the tranny world would think no problem of.
>>737752776Man, poor dev... this pure, honest Japanese man worked with the same company for years and somehow never noticed they were sabotaging his games the entire time. He definitely had no idea about any of the changes, and he was absolutely not on board with trying to reach a larger audience to make more money!! *pien*
>>737753048trannylator deflectionkill yourself
>>737753023what was the original phrase? Japanese idioms are not to be sanitized for western audience or chinese critics. No real gamer cares about toxic comms.
>this faggot is still trying to shift blame to the dev
>>737753048>the developer made me change into stop fascism guys, i swear! :'(
>>737753112いらない (I don't need it). It's not an idiom.
>>737753212anon.they translated "iranai" to "i wanna cut out my uterus"?
>>737753297Well it was a reply to if she wants kids
>>737753297Yes. And the entire script is like that.Are you beginning to understand yet? This was a worse "localization" than Working Designs' shit in the 90s.
>>737753212iranai "don't want it." is what it translate to directly in context since the question is about "want" not "need." since nobody asked if you need something (ergo, food, clothes, items...) They use the same phrase for both.
>>737753297Yes, that's why we call them vandals
>>737753297its the kinda stuff you cannot bring up with everybody because people will think that you are making shit up.
>>737753347Oh pleaseEveryone cocksucks the fuck out of Lunar SSS' localization.In 20 years people will defend yunyun's localization using the same "it gave the game personality and charm" claim.
>>737721302It's miles better than it used to be but still needs editing. But you can get something decent if the editor isn't a fucking retard unlike the unreadable slop it used to produce, where the editor basically had to rewrite the entire thing
>>737753449How much is Dragonbaby paying you?
>>737753141Nah, the translator defense would be something more like>they told me it was okay to make it look like those were discord shitposts so I just did it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯He wasn't told to translate in a faithful way, but we already knew this from the demo.
>>737753449Don't worry, we'll at least make sure everyone remembers the localizers' fuck up
>>737753531I doubt that considering every other translation is faithful.
>>737753449Yup, scrubbed of all the heart that made it appeal to the target audience (oldfag uncs who love early 2000s otaku culture). This is the beginning of the end for these faggots who can't stop themselves.
>>737753531And yet, instead of trying to defend themselves, they deleted half their past tweets that were abhorrent, went radio silent and privatized/protected all their accounts on social media. Curious.>>737753617Also this.
>>737753361Depends on the context. Post the line before it.
>>737753652and banned users for simply speaking up.
>>737747672I just went by design, i didn't read em
>>737753709Does "just speaking up" normally involve having a post with at least three slurs and no actual content?
>>737753617The other translations were handled by a different localization company that relied on MTL and didn’t put in the same level of care. Ironically, they ended up being more faithful and therefore much better. The dev said he worked closely with the English localization team.
Spiteful failed writers only lazily fixed some mistranslation in the parts that were in the demo, called it done then hide like the slimy cowards they are.
>>737753689dude anon, if they are talking about "if you want kids or not" that's not a need, that's a want (desire.) do you not understand English context? Need (required for a thing) is in contrasts to Wants because that's Needs.
>>737753763It refers to being critical of anything to do with transgenderism, which in their case is everything, because they say so. You attacking the translation is an attack on them.
>>737753792More exactly, they removed skibidi.Which shouldn't have been there in the first place since it had already gone entirely stale in a month.
>>737753347I will give Working Designs and early localizations one thing, the conditions then and now for localization are wildly different. Translation memories and termbases alone are fucking godsends.
>>737753780I believe Korean and Chinese were handled by human teams, so they would've been given the same directive if that's what the dev wanted.
>>737753763Trannies and Nigs are not free from criticism because of their status as victims of self-mutiliation and constant dishonesty, bitchtard.
>>737753810Anon, you're being a disingenuous cunt. I doubt it's even the forum moderators themselves at this point, the so-called "automated review" is taking like five minutes per post so Valve themselves are obviously jannying posts.
>>737753809Are we talking about wanting kids? Post the JP line before it.
>>737753898read the thread above, its quite literally just that.
>>737753835And they're still seething it was removed lol
>>737753780>The other translations were handled by a different localization company that relied on MTLIs there any actual proof of this? Because I'm seeing this being pushed and everyone just seems to accept it without any backing whatsoever.
>>737753935Link it.
>>737753850Not necessarily. Usually, each version have different guidelines depending on the target audience in the region. The English had retarded guidelines so the result would have been similar even with another translator.
>>737754009Non-english is credited to Mantra, Inc.Here is their site:https://mantra.co.jp/en/
>>737744201What was the name of the dev's previous game? How bad was the localization?
>>737754035I know you are a trannylator trying to seethe at people talking bad about your game, I won't spoonfeed it to a troll. Go fuck yourself like your missing penis.
>>737754172needy girl overdoseI haven't played it so I can't say
>>737754107It had a retarded translation, but that's not proof of its guidelines.
>>737754263I'm not. I haven't played the game so I was genuinely curious.
I'm getting real sick of going over the same things over and over again, Can someone make an infographic at this point?
>>737754337If you are read up before jannies 404 this thread.
>>737754354Second this. It's been the same for at least a couple days, except for the couple retranslation efforts from fans.
>>737754364There's 538 posts. Are you gonna link it or is this a "dude, trust me. She's totally talking about kids" moment?
>>737754453it literally happened few posts ago by the other guy, stop being lazy nigger.
>>737754501Just say you don't know the context.
>>737754547I do context was provided by the other guy, stop being such a zoomer.
>>737754563No, it wasn't. I just scrolled through 300 posts and I don't see any images of the Japanese lines.
>>737754168It's telling thet their English website is far removed from Dragonbaby's tryhard nonsense
>>737754609Not him
>>737749635Unironically with twitter autotranslating this is more likely to happen. Nothing stopped someone from sending a email to a dev before but I would be surprised if it occurred often.
>>737754827And right-wing Americans are being bros with Japanese right-wingers who also hate the left and they love guns and cowboy shit just like Americans used to. Its cinema, turns out only the Left has been an issue geo-politically globally and right was singing the same song regardless of nation-state or ethnic-border. Fucking niggers am I right?
>>737754827Violent flashbacks to the one time I got drunk and sent a doujin artist a MTL email of how much I liked their work. They were pretty nice in the response though, so I guess what I said wasn't that bad.
You know what actually pisses me off more than all the other things people have posted?Yunyun's verbal tic of putting "yun" in every sentence was erased.
>>737754298At the end of the day, I’m just making educated guesses based on what’s public info and what I know about how this industry works. I’m positive that the “skibidi rizz all up in this bihh” stuff was intentional and the dev was well aware of it. As for the lines about fascism and cutting uterus, it seems the translator just treated them as the same kind of shitpost because that’s what he sees all day on his grooming discord and thought he could get away with it.
>>737742661Probably some dei "consultancy" firm forced their way into some higher-up official's ear, told them they'd totally fail if they didn't let them spew their shit all over the game, and they ended up letting them do whatever they wanted because they didn't understand english, and were naive and intimidated enough to be convinced.
>>737715541>original contractYou usually charge per character translated, so depending on how shit was written, they'd either pay for that once again, or the translator does it to save what little rep they have left.
>>737754813Thanks, I can tell they're reacting to a question. I'm gonna assume it was about having kids, but いらない could also be reacting to having sex without the actual thing they're reacting to.
>>737754982>I’m positive that the “skibidi rizz all up in this bihh” stuff was intentional and the dev was well aware of it.That's a pretty hard sentence to retranslate back into Japanese, so I'm not sure how he could've fully known what they were doing.
