YOU'RE TAKING TOO LONG
that was a cool two weeks long meme
>>737725357same as kris get the bananasadly no staying power
>>737724761I'm replaying it to get my saves ready for chapter 5 in some months.I tried giving this a second chance but my enjoyment almost vanishes once I start the boards in chapter 3. Chapter 4 is also way more boring than I remember from the first time.It hurts because Chapter 1 still felt as fun now as it did back in the day. Ouch
SEX WITH THE DOE!
>>737725772I'm waiting for Toby to drop the release date to replay it again. I really enjoy all chapters but Chapter 3 really just bores me out (Except for the Sword route bits).But, you know, it does make sense in lore because Tenna was trying to make up time for the Knight.
>>737725772I think when it's all said and done, Chapter 3 will still be my most hated part of the game. Doing the Zelda boards twice each for the Shadow Mantle is insane.
>>737725772I wish the sleep skip in chapter 4 would let you jump after the whole lesbian scene but before entering the dark world
>all the hate for chapter 3I can't be the only one who enjoys chapter 3 more than 4, I find it more fun to replay
>>737725891Zelda is the best part of Chapter 3
>>737726003You're not alone, a lot of people find Chapter 3 the best yet, just their kind of thing, I suppose. But almost everyone who played it agrees Chapter 4 was the best one yet, because that Chapter's pacing is practically perfection, and the stakes are higher than ever.
>>737726119This.I'm assuming lorefaggots didn't like the Zelda bits of Chapter 3 cause they're normgroid casuls
>>737724761The music in chapter 4 does a lot of the heavy lifting honestly
>>737726003I like Chapter 3 more overall, but I wish it had its own light world section instead of it being shoved onto the start of Chapter 4
>>737726192I think Jackstein's fight drags on for way too long. Aside from that, kino chapter
>>737725880I'm doing this all now so that I can forget about the game for a while. I'm really not looking forward to do all this again just for the weird route.>>737725942I already feel that whole lightworld portion of the game drags on long enough, the festival can potentially be hell with that.>>737725891>>737726003I gotta say I warmed up a little bit for Chapter 3 because Tenna is a great presence there and the non-zelda songs are great.Chapter 4 meanwhile drags on with how few bosses there are, and I swear I remember Gerson being more endearing the first time I played, so far he just feels like the most corny thing imaginable.
>>737727472>so far he just feels like the most corny thing imaginable.That's why he's endearing though. He's just a less horny Master Roshi.
>>737726003Playing chapter 3 without interacting with the internet once was a magical experience
Does it really take years to pump out some bad mspaint scribbles in an rpgmaker game?
>>737727472>He doesn't like the zelda songs
>>737726003chapter 3 is great and genuinely way better than chapter 4 chapter 4 had its moments but i find a lot of it so bland. namely the titan
>>737727570Chapter 3 and 4 only took that long because of Chapter 3's minigames.
>>737726191Plus we technically get two secret bosses thanks to that Zelda segment.Plus its technically the only time Toby ever had to actually develop a boss fight that wasnt just moving that god damn heart around the screen and involved ACTUAL fighting.
>>737727545Anon, I'm serious. I wasn't expecting my opinion of him to go down this hard on a replay.UT Gerson was both goofier and also had a some edge from his Geno dialogue. DR Gerson feels like he came from a very basic kids cartoon. It also doesn't help he does his bit almost exclusively to Susie.
>>737727679Yeah... no.
>>737727570The translations and porting to consoles eat up a lot of time. Chapter 5 would probably be out now, or at least very close to release, if he just dumped the english version on PC.
>>737724761YOUR RAPING TOO LONG
>>737727694two secret bosses with the appeal of none, how great
>>737727835are you in the correct thread?
>>737727835>>737727954oh sorry that was meant for another thread
>>737724761Considering that only bugs need to be tested and the bugtesting period was , we might be seeing a June or July release, possibly late May if Tobert is truly insane in the membrane.
>>737726263At least you can skip it with tension items, I just wish you could skip Roulxs in chapter 3
>>737728008It's gonna be an august-september release at best.>picrelZenith dark world goes hard. There is some real horror potential for fucked up worlds depending on where you punch the ground.
>>737727679Then stop making 23214 fucking minigames that people will engage with for 2 minutes and take 3 months of dev time each
>>737728273Yeah, you faggots are way too optimistic seriously expecting a release before at least August
>>737726003I appreciate 4 more for the story progression it had, but 3 had an extremely good sequence for it's endingI think as far as the boards go, I think it needed a little something more in terms of gameplay Chapter 4's dark world needed more characters/actual denizens, it felt pretty empty
>>737728382Konnichiwa, dude!
>tfw YOUR TAKING TOO LONG IS TAKING TOO LONG
YOUR TOO TOO
>>737724761meds
>>737726119NES zelda is fucking horrible, mantle fight is complete fucking bullshit because of it copying zelda 1, that shit was never meant to be fasti love chapter 3 but i'm not 100%ing that shit again solely because of mantle, would have been tolerable if the sword was more like ALTTP/GB games or just make kris that slightest bit faster, no pegasus boots though
Chapter 3 is the most dogshit chapter yet, and it was lucky to get dropped along with chapter 4Otherwise, you'd see way more people talking about how shit it was>C-Chapter 4 feels e-emptyI swear to god you retards that say this are trollingMeanwhile, the majority of chapter 3 is just dogshit minigames and a shitty Zelda rip-off that doesn't let you save at any pointThere's not even any major differences if you do the genocide routeChapter 3 gets hard carried by Rouxls, The Knight, and finding Mancountry
>>737733683I almost fell asleep on stream when playing chapter 3 on release, it's the typical toby dickriders trying to say it was their favorite chapter which is an obviously ridiculous statement, we joked that the knight should count as a chapter 4 boss just out of spite for ch3.
>>737733683>>737734093Leave it to Deltarune fans to dislike the most gameplay-heavy chapter. Chapter 4's final boss sucked btw.
>>737733683>Chapter 3 gets hard carried by Rouxlsmaybe the first time but his battle is a massive slog on repeats since you can't skip it unlike most of the other stuff if you go violently
>>737734407chapter 3 haters are just mad the mike wasn't actually real
is Deltarune the most Lynchian vidya of all time
>>737724761https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMosMv_6ki4
>download the car mod>enable whichever settings you want for whichever type of run you're doing>run over and past everything to skip most of the game except the important sectionsthis is the only way to replay this game without it being a total slog
>>737726003Chapter 3 is genuinely shit outside of a few specific parts like the mantle quest and the ending boss fights70% of the chapter is spent on minigames and gimmick sections and when you finally get to actually explore the dark world it looks ugly as fuck and there's hardly anything memorable to see
>>737738519ch3 has the best star walker gags though
Chapter 2 hard carries the whole game. Chapter 1 and 3 overstay their welcomes massively and 4 feels way too deliberate with how on the nose the story and the twists are. Chapter 2 has that same problem as well but I feel like it does a better job varying the environments and the things you have to do, and it feels the closest to Undertale's pacing to me. It's amazing we've been given a game where the main characters and their story are less interesting than the side characters.
>>737726003I prefer chapter 3, the zelda fight is my favorite boss so far
>>737728081I wish you could skip the music niggas in chapter 2
>>737736198>Junoshitsthis guy always over does it
>>737739570Who doesn't?
>>737739570>>737739793You can't even fight them to dismiss their bullshit, you MUST go through the Act sequence, because it's where Susie, Ralsei and Noelle are then enabled to just Act on their own
>>737726003starting chapter 4 at like 8 PM on launch day immediately after getting through chapter 3 is an entirely different experience from just playing chapter 4 standalone
>>737738884>Chapter 1 overstays its welcomeReally? Even with repeated replays and secret hunting, it never felt like it was dragging on to me.
>>737726003it was a great chapter, but besides the ending the whole thing felt like a filleri'm hoping toby gives it a second lookover after the game is done
>>737739981>toby completes deltarune ~2032>he then announces he's going to be making the definitive editionsee you guys in 2050
>>737724761I thought that was fat ass Omni-Man at first
>>737739929For me at least, by the time I start to reach Lancer's betrayal at the run up to card castle I feel like it's overstating itself. There's a point there where I'm just wishing and waiting for the chapter to be over. The first time I played it I refused to backtrack for the key parts to get Jevil because I felt so fed up with it. It's a weird feeling because Chapter 1 is incredibly short and some of the better moments are in card castle, but it feels like the chapter slogs for hours and hours whenever I play it.
>>737740404it's probably because the fights in ch1 feel longer than in the later chapters because kris is the only one who can ACT, and many enemies can take multiple turns due to pacify also being at its most relevant
>>737740706There's that and I think it's also because chapter 1 hinges entirely on you liking the main cast, there's no real supporting characters to fall back on except for maybe Rouxls, but he's at the end of the chapter. If you don't click with Susie, Ralsei or Lancer, or heavens forbid all of them, then the chapter is going to feel awful to play through.
>>737726003the /v/ hivemind convinced itself that 3 was le "reddit" while 4 was a masterpiece of ambience and depths.So you need to stop thinking that. 4 is better, okay? If you disagree... I'll have to tell you to go back, and you don't want that, do you?
>>737740071OH GOSH I SEE IT
>>7377410064 > 3 is purely based on the music for me the dark world music in ch4 btfo's every other chapter in terms of flowthe only one that sticks out is jack's, and that was clearly on purpose ch3 has good songs too, but i like dark sanctuary more than tv worldit's tv time mogs the fuck out of every other chapter boss though
Loli Krissy.
>>737726003I had more fun with Chapter 3 completely because of the secret stuff and figuring out that the Knight could actually be beaten. Chapter 4 had a lot less of that sort of stuff, which is fine because it's trying to be more story focused, but Chapter 3's secrets were so much fun.
>>737743702I love loli humans!
>>737726003I liked 3 more than 4, personally. So far I think 4 is very overrated because of its presentation and the lore moments.
2 > 1 > 4 > 3
I still haven't done the weird route I'm scared it'll taint my save like genocide
>>737750192I don't think Toby would do that especially considering each chapter has a years long wait to it, also the game's meta elements haven't been completely explored, Undertale especially had lots of dialogue differences between runs I can see a consequence if you complete it, but initiating it and even going through with it in ch4 should be safe
>>737750192they gave you different save slots for a reason, use them
>>737736198>WITH LYRICS
>>737726003I have enjoyed every chapter a shitload so far. Great game.
>>737751006Same. I find the endless chapter ranking debates exhausting. They all bring something different to the table. That's why I love all of them.
>>737725837> and just like that following orders becomes a legitimate excuse> in fact, just following orders makes her the real victim in all of it, of course
your*
>>737750280>>737750606I also don't want to do it because I don't like being badI don't want to make characters I like miserable
Wait, I just had a brainwave looking at Jackenstein's chapter map and thinking about the colorized and sized weird route numbers.. Kris has already looped. Kris doesn't melt down and furiously beat your ass because you violated the doe, Kris beats your ass because you did it when you couldn't actually gain anything from it, you're already locked in for the wrong ending, so it was pointless cruelty. You need something from later chapters to make it a valid option on a replay.
>>737736198> with lyrics
>>737751182Noelle likes it though, Kris too deep down
>>737726003Chapter 3 after the boards is pretty barebones, but I think I had to backtrack for a while to collect stuff. I'm just not much for all the whimsy. So 1, 3's ending and 4 were genuinely amazing. Suselle was eh, but moving around as a floating heart was funny.
>>737751182There is a clear motive that deep down Noelle wants it.The only moral choice is whether you thing the acts themselves are right or wrong.
>>737751182Both genocide and the weird route only have impact if you do it because you want to, so if you don't want to, it's better for you to stick with the good guy route.
>>737725837Based but this and also human
good thread till the avatarfag woke up
>>737752103This but until the schizo raped by humans (you) woke up.
>>737752103many such cases
>>737752705Humanposting will continue until schizo morale plumets. Unironically, you should just filter us but I feel like you just want an excuse for attention and don't care about thread quality.
>>737752925>I feel like you just want an excuse for attention and don't care about thread qualityevery accusation is a confession
>>737752991So your accusation of le avatarfag ruining the thread was a confession you ruined the thread? Good to know.
>>737750192I'm willing to believe that ultimately, somehow, it won't matter, considering how much Toby insisted on "your choices don't matter" since Chapter 1>>737751182Fair. Still, you better become a full edgelord and do a total evil route the moment we reach the end of the story and you finish your good boy run.
>>737753152The weird route is the reason there's an "...?" At the end of the steam description. It's the only way I see a different ending.
>>737751334And heroin addicts love heroin. That doesn't mean it's not bad for them.
>>737726003Lorefags and shippers have horse blinders on as far as the rest of the game is concerned so everything not about Dess or flirting with Noelle is just a waste of time to them.
>>737753298Everything's fine in moderation, don't need to rape them everyday
>>737754025Lorefags love chapter 3 because of the sword route and the little hints about Kris's childhood, but I agree with the rest of this statement.
>>737754025>>737754394Shippers also love to mention the mini-Kris Krusie scene, too.
>>737754069One rape a day keeps the DOCTOR away~
>>737754449They really do like putting all their stock on that one optional scene huh.
>>737736198>With Lyrics>Not the real artform of youtubehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgbJ8TJhdrM
>>737754664It's not just that scene, that's just the most blatant one. That or Toby's "I won" post.
>>737754664Don't worry anon, Chapter 5 will put down their delusions for good, just a matter of time.
>>737726141Bro i thought chapter 4 was straight ass. Fucking boring literally walking around in the dark and lul just walk right tier shit with a dumb climbing gimmick. I don't see what people see in it. (Aside from the light world bits, WHICH were pretty good i must admit)>>737726119 2>3>1>4
>>737754869>I don't see what people see in it.Atmosphere and strong character moments.
>>737751334People need to realize that player cock is irresistible to doe and human. That's why both Kris and Noelle enjoyed the fact we raped them. SOVL cock is irresistible.
>>7377549373 did both of those better THOUGH
>>737754839I'm not looking forward to that. Broken shippers will be more annoying and insufferable than even the worst schizo we have so far.>>737754869Agreed, I didn't like 4 at all, it's very overrated. 3 is actually very fun gameplay wise even if having to replay it several times sucks.
>>737754763Most of em are optional still. Not really great for a game with (allegedly) one ending. You need mandatory scenes between the characters to make it make sense for fags that will play through the game once while not autisticaly hunting for every piece of dialogue.There's really not much of that rn so unless Toby starts aggressively pushing Krusie in future chapters, then it ain't happening
>>737755125I don't necessarily disagree. Personally, I'm of the belief that Toby won't actually confirm any ship at all. All of the scenes except the Suselle stuff are optional. And even those are just unilateral pining from Noelle while Susie remains clueless. But scenes aren't invalidated just because they're optional. They were written, animated, and put in the game for a reason.
>>737754763I don't think either of those posts are necessarily romantic. Kris and Susie can be goofballs without wanting to FUCK each other.
seriously what’s wrong with Dreemurr children?
>>737755318I think it's very hard to argue for a platonic way of resting your head on top of another person's head. But you're free to believe what you will.
>>737755383gem
>I think it's very hard to argue for a platonic way of resting your head on top of another person's headI was gonna reply to this but then I remembered that the average 4channer has an extremely twisted vision of interpersonal relationships, so I would just be wasting my time.
>>737755383Toby has an incest kink, at least best girls are normal and based.
>>737755413I feel like you can easily rest your head in your bro's head.
>>737755383Do you think if Asriel did date Chara in the Deltarune timeline he's think "Why does it feel like I'm kissing my sibling? Also it's so weird to me how little people talk about the fact that Asriel is basically a magical twink version of Kris's brother yet no one bats and eye to ship art of the two.
>>737755254Toby not confirming any ship would be a bitch move and a half. Like it or not, a decent part of this story is the will they won't they bullshit. Something needs to come out of it.Big Suselle scenes are skipable in a way. The ferris wheel scene can be skipped while with the ch4 house one you're busy dealing with shit to really se it. You have to sit down and wait like 10min to get all the dialogue and they still end up talking about Kris/Ralsei anyway.Ralseusie has a bunch of unsinkable scenes but I won't go there
>>737755842I mean Ralesi fuck
>>737755497That just sounds a weak justification for why you can't come up with a counterargument. I even thought of one right after I made that post, considering how vaguely I worded it. What I mean to say is when you consider Toby's post alongside everything else we know about Kris and Susie's relationship, it's very hard to see that as anything but romantic.
pick one
>>737755842>Also it's so weird to me how little people talk about the fact that Asriel is basically a magical twink version of Kris's brother yet no one bats and eye to ship art of the two.The usual argument is the scene of Kris pointing out all the differences between Asriel and Ralsei. Regardless if this is Kris coping or not the actual artstyle of the game does not make a good argument for Ralsei and Asriel to be considerably different in appearance.
Only one more month and we get the promised date with Susie. Toby better deliver with no cuck bullshit. Unless its Noelle getting cucked.
>>737755842Asriel is dragonpilled in Deltarune
>>737755850I didn't say it would be a good choice. I just think it would be weird to halfheartedly bait so so so many ships if he's only going to commit to one in the end. That would just be adding needless drama.
There are actual thinking breathing human beings who like the susie and noelle scenes? They have like zero chemistry together, people actually want to see them together? The fuck? Why?
>>737755937Look, I don't know what kind of trauma you suffered during childhood that made you think this way, but resting one's head on top of someone else's can be completely platonic, it would something that could easily happen between siblings, and also with very close friends, Susie in particular is pretty much acting like an Asriel stand-in when it comes to Kris, so I really cannot see how it's unfathomable that Susie resting her head on Kris is not actually something romantic.
>>737756138yurifags are easily pandered to
>>737756138It's trannies. People who like Suselle are trannies, that's all there is to it.
>>737756119He already commited to make scenes teasing Suselle, Krusie, Kriselle and Kralsei so he should either open the door for multi romance routes or at least one of them. Otherwise he would become a baiting hack.
>>737755842Chara looks differently enough from Kris that I don't think that's a problem. I feel like it's something he would only notice if Kris pointed it out and then he would think there's something wrong with him.People did care about Ralsei looking like Asriel, that's why Kralsei became problematic after 2. It's only with 3 and 4 that it became nice to ship it because Kris said Ralsei looks different from Asriel from his PoV.
>>737756138I only some troon Twitter accounts posting suselle with couple of likes and comments. Its not popular enough considering how much Noelle is focused on Susie in canon
>>737756138Nobody actually likes Suselle here, people just think it will happen and for people to lower their expectations of it.
>>737756271Only Suselle and Kriselle will happen, one for the normal route and one for the weird route. Kriselle will also be extremely twisted and not exactly something you would consider a normal romantic relationship.
>>737756271I'm saying he already kind of is. All of that time baiting is time that could have been spent developing just one romance. Because as it stands, they're all really underdeveloped.
>>737756375I do. I also don't think any ship is happening at all.
>>737755997the answer will be the one on the right every single time.
>>737756296Idk seems to me like ch3/4 killed Kralsei. Kris coping aside, both Susie and Noelle note how Ralsei looks similar to Asriel. Ralsei himself almost says it before getting cut off
>>737755997
Suselle is going to happen because it will be a subversion. Let me explain, Noelle is clearly gooing to be forced into a role she doesn't want to, she's key to the whole prophecy, and she will be forced to do something she doesn't want to in order to advance whatever plan Carol, the Knight, and others have prepared. Now, here comes the epic subversion, in normal stories, the dragon kidnaps the pricess, and the knight comes to save her, in Deltarune, the Knight kidnaps the princess, and the dragon(Susie) comes to save her. This is the kind of subversion Toby likes, and that's why it will happen.
>>737756689
>>737756737how many times is this fucking skinwalker noelle drawing going to be posted?
>>737756737Frame it however you want. Doing the thing Toby's been very obviously telegraphing since chapter 2 is not subversive is any sense of the word.
>>737756096Technically both him and Dess and even Kris likes dragons and lizards. Maybe dragons are just THE sex species in universe.>>737756589I would say 2 killed Kralsei, actually. That's when people thought it was incest and Kredly replaced it as Kris's gay ship. 3 and 4 is more like the revival of Kralsei, or at least I'm seeing people shipping it more than they did in the 2 era. Maybe because of Kris's cope and they having actual moments together.
>>737756502Surprised you even admit to it knowing how ferocious people are for it.
>Kris betrayed his friends for THIS
>>737757163Do you blame him? I would do the same thing.
>>737757163i speak for everyone when i say we ALL want to get groomed by Dess
>>737757047Where do you think we are? Why should anyone care what anonymous chimps getting angry over such a petty topic?
>>737757418I'm no stranger to posting things that trigger schizos (singular), it's just that it's rare to see actual Susellefags here, but props to you for being mature over it. Personally I hope no ship happens as well, but after so much baiting that's impossible.
>>737757163Love this artist and this is one of my favorite fanmade Dess designs.
>>737756814As many times needed until you kill yourself since it's a cute doe.
>>737756965I've seen a lot more art of Kralsei with ch2 compared to recent ones. People were still coping that Asriel and Ralsei didn't look anything alike during ch2. Most normies got the ick after the comparisons were made.Personally I don't care, Kralsei is pure cringe. Unless it's femKris, at which point it's based
>>737757791but it isnt noelle
>>737757829Cry about it.
3 even has better music than 4. Name a song in 4 thats better than ruder buster
>>737758050if youre going to jack off to animals in the deltarune thread at least make it the ones from deltarune
>>737757163That isn't papyrus.
>>737757801I feel like we have different experiences, then. I have seen more open Kralsei nowadays versus in the past, but maybe we're just seeing different people. It’s strange. I agree, Kralsei is the weakest goat x human ship. FemKris x Ralsei is somewhat based but it's rarer than a diamond, everyone prefers it as yaoi.
>>737755997I refuse to pick the lesser of two evils and choose option 3
>>737758297I jerk off to does but I also jerk off to non-furries, too. That Noelle is just cute
why is the undertale fandom still so annoying to this day?>tadc>omori>coffin>fnaf>dandynone of these are nearly as annoying. it's especially embarrassing when you consider that most undertale fans are adults now and somehow manage to be more autistic than fandoms made up of literal children
>>737758556>why is the undertale fandom still so annoying to this day?I am NOT annoying!
>>737758556omori fags are worse than bronies in their prime so im gonna have to just fundamentally disagree with you
>>737758556the simple answer is because undertale has a bigger fandom than all of those, therefore you will see more of them, including the annoying ones.
>>737758556All of the fandoms you listed are so, so much worse, they're just smaller so you don't hear from them as much. TADC fags just ostracized one of the voice actors out of the show because he said a no-no word like 15 years ago.
>>737758709omorifags died off after omocat being a pedo became common knowledge
>>737757163> hisfuck off, chud
>>737759053I don't like it either, but that's just how it is here. Don't bother.
>>737759171retard-kun...
>>737758805Only the based /ss/ enjoyers survived which is why we must continue strong with posting Kress
>>737759053>>737759171mental illness
>>737759318You are playing a mental illness game.
>>737759392>>737759318>YES I play the gay furry game, but that's just TOO FAR!These people can't be real. It's beyond parody.
>>737759392I just want to see bros get isekaid and overcome hurdles with the power of friendship, is that really too much to ask? :(Why does everything need to be a metaphor or analogy for transvestites or depression?Kris is male btw
>>737758556It's just autism. Undertale and Deltarune are more popular than these series and is still on-going so you see it more. It's similar to Sonic and MLP. All the ones you mentioned are fads or less autism magnets. Plus there's still many children in this fandom.>>737759053Humans are up to your IMAGINATION. >>737759171It's fine to use they/them sometimes, I do it too when talking about gender neutral Kris. People just hate when you say he's canonically non-binary or that those are his canon pronouns.
>>737726003I find it incredibly boring without doing all the extra shit
>>737759651that vid actually single-handedly made a bunch of troons detransition
>>737759212only terminally online /vg/ transplants remain, everyone else ran out of things to talk about and moved on
>>737759803People compare /v/ UTDR threads to /utg/ a lot, but the truth is that, as bad as these threads have become, they're still not anywhere close to /utg/. It's just that bad.
So what is going to be the big Deltarune writing choice or rl reveal that will make trannies send Toby death threats and do a 180 on the game, HP style?
>>737759651this may have converted me from kriselle
>>737759987when suselle sinks like the titanic and noelle's femcel seethe leads her to become the antagonist of the story
>>737759053
>>737759803You say this but you're also here everyday complaining about how these threads raped you.>>737759872It's mostly just our schizo. He doesn't actually care about thread quality, he's just a shitposter that wants these threads gone and picks different targets to shitpost onto.
>737760106Speak of the devil and he comes. YWNBAJ
I really enjoy these threads before the charafag shows up. I noticed that he only joins when it's Indian and Southeast Asia hours
>>737760079I was in on Omori from day one, I know what real thread killing spam looks like.I don't know what boogeyman you presume me to be but every thread being nothing but ritual posts from waifufags is proof enough that I'm right.
>>737755997Komu is the better artist, so Krusie.
>>737758556deltarune has>fags praising the terribly written lesbian fetish romance with zero chemistry>fags screeching over pronouns >insufferable troon zoomer humor >pedophiles, fags and troons in general (a lot more than average)
>>737760370Watch out anon, if you're not careful he'll call you an "anti-human schizo"
Dess is human and isn't the knight because the knight is so obviously rudy
Also RAMB
>>737724761YOURE TAKING MY DONG
>>737760549I have yet to see a single point in favor of humanDess that didn't rely on bad-faith interpretations and wilful ignorance.
>>737760414Sorry, I thought you were this faggot, he's our local schizo that keeps trying to get this thread deleted because he wants to be a janny >737760370>737760106The reason a lot of current posts are just waifubros it's because of the lack of news. That's why most of it is just lizard, doe or human sex. Once we get news things will get better.
>>737760738I really hope Toby Fox breaks the silence, it's been what, like 5 months since any Chapter 5 teaser? We only got confirmations that they're moving to bug testing, but I don't consider that enough to renew discussion
>>737760720I just find the idea more appealing than just yet another furry
>>737759987Suselle not happening won't kill trannies because Kris is non-binary for them. So Kris having an actual gender is the only way to do so>>737760549Human Dess is impossible because she has a gender. Toby doesn't want to gender his precious humans and thus Dess can't be one. That and it breaks Undertale's story since Dess existed in verse there.>>737760998I like humans, too, but we need to stick to fanon. Plus does aren't bad furries.
>>737760998yea ok the idea might be appealing but it's not going to happen. that bedroom belonged to a monster.
>>737726003that's odd, I thought 3 was awesome and 4 just completely lost me to the point I haven't finished it. 4 just grinds to a halt with the stained glass lore dumps that are too vague to care about.I quit somewhere after >>737724761 this guy.
>>737760875It's strange he's so damn silent. I know some people think it's because of the spic controversy, but even before that we don't have a newsletter since 5 months. I don't know what he's doing right now.
I also really like the idea of kris wearing monster horns to fit in with the dremurrs because Dess did the same thing with an antler headband to fit in with the holidays.If only Tobuscus was a good writer
>>737761392It's fucking hilarious to me that we're so thirsty for new deltarune stuff that a bunch of faggots literally made shit up to get mad about
>>737761392It's not that strange. Translation should be essentially done by now, judging by his bsky post. The only things left are the testing and porting. There's not much to say unless testing goes horribly horribly wrong to the point where the game absolutely must get delayed to next year. I think it's better to be silent until he has a release date and let the trailer speak for itself.
>>737761392>I know some people think it's because of the spic controversyThat's definitely it.Some fans got upset, and he addressed their concerns, and got backlash. Serious backlash, for probably the first time ever. The obvious lesson is to pull back and communicate less. Someone with a following of his size cannot make everyone happy, every time they make a statement they are going to piss someone off.
>>737761617>That's definitely it.It definitely isn't. He said picrel weeks before that controversy happened.
>>737761818The way I see it, we're not hearing shit until the release date trailer pops up during the Summer Nintendo Direct. It's the most obvious place to finally give it to us, given he already had to hold back Deltarune because of the Switch 2 getting delayed due to the marketing deal he struck with Nintendo.
>>737761419I like the idea of Kris getting that idea by himself rather than yet another thing he copied from Dess. Human Dess isn't really bad, but I think deer Dess is better despite being a human lover.
>>737761579I don't remember such a long silence from Toby ever since the newsletter era began. That's why I find it strange. >>737761617It's strange he isn't even posting the occasional meme post anymore after that shit. Very strange.
>>737762420I don't know why you guys are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill here. He's knee-deep in ch 5 release and ch 6 development shit right now. I would rather he work on that than post mspaint doodles on bluesky.
>>737761496I don't think the latinx controversy has anything to do with the lack of news. It was a shitstorm that could've been created at any time. The only thing the lack of news did was exacerbate it because there was nothing to distract the angry crowd.
>>737762669Personally I'm just impatient for any news, that's why I find Toby's silence strange. It's nice that he's working on the game and not wasting any time, though.
>>737757163i look forward to fighting dess, who is more than likely the knight, and Kris eventually. Toby has done a good job as setting them both up as rival characters for (you) to fight against
>>737757257I am everyone and I agree with this message.
>>737759987>biggest shakeup that would NEVER actually happenKris becoming gendered.>biggest shakeup that COULD happenSuselle somehow being actually deconfirmed. This might as well go into the "would never happen" category though.
>>737763441I'm looking forward to a human vs human fight since Undertale. Hopefully Kris fits that role and we fight him as Megalo Strikes Back plays.
>>737756096toby was a coward for not showing that in the dark world
>>737763838me too anon. I was squirming in my chair thinking we were gonna fight Chara at the end of the genocide route. I think I'd be equally excited at the potential we 1 v 2 dess and Kris or at the bare minimum 1 v 1 kris. I really hope no one shows up and interrupts or tries to join in on that
>>737764770I was spoiled on Undertale so I knew you didn’t fight Chara, but I always liked the versus Chara and even sometimes Frisk animations and games the fandom made. I hope if we fight Kris it's like a normal RPG fight as he is human, and thus doesn't have a normal bullet pattern.
The WAIT is affecting me deltacomrades... ᵕ᷄≀ ̠ᵕ᷅
>>737765039We're in this together, deltafren
>>737765039We can WAIT together, fren.
>>737764948i think the best we can hope for is the fight at all. no way Toby breaks from Deltarune's core combat style.
>>737757163Your shitty fannon has never been and never will be cannon
>>737765558>I AM SILLY
>>737765225>>737765516Thanks you deltafrens
can’t wait for the el bandito loco inspired boss fight
>>737765553Agree, it's will just be weird if Kris throws a bullet pattern I guess.
>>737765558Okay but that fanart was still cool.
>>737765558This still makes more sense than literally any other Knight theory.
>>737765558who else could be the knight aside from dess then? no way any of the adult candidates would be posing on teenagers
>>737766665ALPHYS KNIGHT
>>737766558there's always the other deer disagree with it or not, it's a theory for a reason and i think a lot of the seething for it is because it's just as possible the other holiday family members
>>737766665>Noelle Knight
>>737766829I have never seen this theory outside of 4chan
>>737766750technically speaking, alphys is one of the few characters who would have a believable reason to be at the fountain locations in ch1/ 2 / 4, and before ch3 alphys knight had zero solid arguments against it ch3 throws a wrench into things due to the knight showing up at kris' house, but that's the biggest issue with the theory
>>7377668984chan is the only place with enough contrarians to take something this patently stupid seriously
>noelle knight
>>737766898probably because it's volatile and gets shut down outside of here pretty quick due to it being wrongthink, like second hero krisi have seen some people receptive to it on xitter before though, but it's not often
>>737766829I'll play ball with you for a second. in the case of the weird route why would the knight let themselves be controlled by (you) when every other instance of (you) interacting with the knight shows they despise the player almost as much as Kris
>>737767043You're just like femkrisfag with your victimization narrative. I wouldn't be surprised if you're the same guy. Calling a spade a spade isn't "shutting down wrongthink" or "seething". Maybe people would stop insulting you if you stop acting retarded.
>>737766898There's a YouTube video about it, but reddit seethes about it which is why we know it's a 4chancore theory.
>>737766829You need to make the VERY big assumption that a Lightner can possess two different forms inside a Dark World in order for this to work, so either Noelle changed her clothes after school in the Library before Chapter 2 begins proper, taught Queen about fountains, then SEALED the fountain, then CHANGED clothes again, then OPENED the fountain again, and waited for Kris and Susie to show up. Besides, narrative wise it wouldn't make sense for her to be the Knight, it's just such a big misunderstanding of her motives, fears, and character. Anyone who knows a lick about storytelling knows Noelle cannot be the knight, not JUST because it logically doesn't make sense, but also because it NARRATIVELY doesn't make sense.
>>737767414>so either Noelle changed her clothes after school in the Library before Chapter 2 begins proper, taught Queen about fountains, then SEALED the fountain, then CHANGED clothes again, then OPENED the fountain again, and waited for Kris and Susie to show up.This isn't necessary, Queen only saw the Knight open a fountain, she didn't interact with it, she was only acting based on their actions.
>>737767405blatant samefagging is blatant
>>737767513I do, however, agree that there's some odd symbolism between Noelle and the Knight. The Knight possesses two stigmatas on its hands (Holes), which is inherently associated with the image of Our Lord. In the game, Noelle also goes through some sort "crufication", perhaps because Noelle IS a messianic figure in the prophecy, maybe SHE is the ultimate sacrifice Susie is terrified about. Also, Toby Fox almost never does symbolism for nothing, and considering he was (apparently) raised very Christian (active member in the Episcopalian Church's youth), I doubt this symbolism is a red herring.
>>737767414the knight didn't seal the fountain in ch2, what are you talking about?>logistically doesn't make sensenoelle is one of the few characters that could believably be at all the fountain locations without it being noteworthy or suspiciousand no, getting to the church in ch4 doesn't need teleportation or underground sewage tunnels to work, it's pretty clear that bumming around hometown isn't diagetic to the time events take place given how many things you could do before heading to the church
Rejoice, human! Your wish will finally come true.
>>737767731so what Noelle just changed out of her knight's armor and left it in the computer lab then went back to get it later?
>>737767618>Redditor schizo is STILL shitting the threadGrim.
>>737768186given that we don't know how the knight's body works to begin with, i'm inclined to not make any sweeping statements about it but if we must go the clothing route, it could be something as simple as a black jacket with a hood, easily stowed away in a bag or left somewhere without being too strange
>>737767694That's because Noelle is clearly the Angel.
>>737768568Not really, the Player is the Angel, but Noelle is the sacrificial lamb.
>>737768556okay anon. make a case for the thornring then.
>>737767043Anything controversial is like that. 4chan is different where somethings can still thrive but we got tourists like our local schizo who wants to shutdown anything he doesn't like.
>>737768738it's a thorn, specifically a rose thorn in ch4i'm not sure what you're trying to say with this
Did anyone actually think that we'd get Chapter 5 less than a year after 3 and 4? I always assumed we'd get it in december.
>>737769007get it in WHAT
>>737768664I don't believe in player angel, and the Angel can be both.
>>737769007no, the earliest cope date i remember seeing was february 2026i personally think late june, but as we approach that date with still no word from toby, i'm beginning to think it might be after the summer unless he's waiting for another nintendo direct like last year
>>737769007Ch5 has been in production since late 2024. No way it takes him 2 years to finish a single chapter
>>737767694LIST OF JESUS-NOELLE PARALELLS >Jesus wears a crown of thorns in His sacrifice. Similarly to how Noelle wears the ThornRing>Noelle comes from the Anglo-Norman French noël, which comes from the Latin "Natalis", which means Natal, the Birth of Our Lord. >Noelle's Dark World attire resembles the robe of an Angel>Noelle is hung by her hands in a cross pose, similar to how Jesus was crucified.
>>737769007I'm tryna get IN december iykwim
>>737769007At first I thought it could come out in April, but ever since he said the second half of 2026, I thought it was only coming August and up.
>>737769735Kris...
>>737770097December is the one getting in him, though.
>>737768969you're playing dumb now. you know the thornring has a trance effect that lets the player make more suggestions to Noelle. anon I must now say that from this day forth I will no longer tolerate Noelle knighters
>>737769752second half could mean July. i'd geek out if he released it on America's freedom day.
>>737770546>America's freedom dayAs if. He'd want symbolism from a japan perspective at best.
>>737770386don't bullshit, you never tolerated them to begin with
>>737770546>>737770617Yeah, Toby is a nipponese, plus July just feels way too early desu.
Chapter 567 when?
>>737770668i always thought the theory was dumb but schizotheoryposting is all we have right now.
>>737759053>>737759171Theythems don't exist and your kind weren't here prior to 2015, thank God for internet archives. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1jD_FpkTPM
>>737725837Real
How will Toby go about releasing ch5?>bog standard trailer+release date>waste time waiting to showcase it on nintendo direct>radio silence with a sudden stealth drop>multi day ARG leading up to the releaseI hope drops it as soon as its ready but if he has to waste time, then I'd prefer he did another smile ARG. Has more engagement farming potential as well compared to a typical trailer.
>>737771557>>waste time waiting to showcase it on nintendo directThis one.
>>737771228There's always waifuposting, but you're right there's no new theories to discuss. I miss the big ass documents from the Chapter 2 era. It feels like people aren't as creative during this WAIT.
>>737771557>bog standard trailer+release dateMost likely imo.>waste time waiting to showcase it on nintendo directI think the only happened the first time because he had some deal with nintendo involving the switch 2. Doesn't seem likely this time around, but it could happen I guess.>radio silence with a sudden stealth dropI don't have the screenshot on me, but I'm pretty sure he specifically said he doesn't want to do this anymore because Deltarune is now a paid product and not a free demo and he doesn't want to keep people guessing about when they'll need to spend money. >multi day ARG leading up to the releaseI think this one could happen alongside the first two. Maybe not a full-blown ARG, but a couple more spamton sweepstakes pages like what happened with 3 and 4.
>>737771557The third mixed with 4. There will be another event that will lead to the release like the stream for 2.>>737771726That's only for 3 and 4. Since 5 is just a free update he can shadowdrop it as you don't have to pay for it.
>>737761392>I know some people think it's because of the spic controversyI'm out of loop, did people get mad about something ridiculous again?
>>737771668it's mainly because while opening up the story more Toby has also closed off possible theories aside from weird route stuff. for me and Noelle posting the only thing I can really look forward to during the festival at the moment is how much Toby is going to let us mess with Kris. then on the normal route when are Kris and Carol going to initiate their plan or will we get a chance to talk with the mastermind of the roaring plan
>>737772189some band that plays UT music announced they are doing a ''word'' tour but they were only booked for first world countries. That got the latinx' panties in a twist so it eventually snowballed into shitting on Toby because he only does translation for the japs
>>737771241>your kind weren't here prior to 2015undertale wasnt out until 2015 retard
>>737724761I want to put my determination inside Muffet and make her get stronger.
>>737772283>pica key thing people seem to leave out or forget is that noelle likes being comforted after being scared more than the actual feelings of fear not to say she won't scaremaxx her self, but she'd only do so willingly if somebody dotes on her afterwards it's why she was borderline head over heels for kris in the ch4 weird route, because he comforted her the night prior after she got the piss scared out of her
>>737772189Basically there was an Undertale concert and they weren't going to latinx contries, they got mad and started asking Toby why he doesn't care about their country, why merch is expensive and why the game doesn't have a spanish translation. Toby responded them but that backfired and thus people were shitting on him for weeks. Since then he hasn't said anything, although it could be just because there's nothing to say.>>737772283I blame the prophecy. It basically tells us what's going to happen and makes the game revolve all around it, which is why every theory is about it or the Knight in this era. In terms of waifuposting, I like to humanpost or even deerpost sometimes, but even that's repetitive or gets the wrath of jannies and the schizo. I'm interested on how we will torment Kris and Noelle but Mantle is kind of like the Weird Route's prophecy which means every theory of the route has to revolve around it.
>>737771241How did kris never fuck this?
>>737772689He was Dess's property and she groomed him into being dragonsexual.
>>737772475>>737772667That sounds ridiculous. Why would anyone who wants to make money go to perform some favela where no one has money. That's a thing you do only if you have no other options, of course you go to the countries that are safer and have more people who can actually afford to buy the tickets.
>>737765039>less than 1 yearIt's barely even a wait lmao
>>737772825Toby also said they "lost" 50% of the merch mailed there, too. That's why browns tried to call him a racist jew.
>>737772153Don't think a shadow drop is the best strategy if he want's the most amount of people to play the chapter. Most normies wouldn't get the memo without a public announcement
>>737772631i wonder how Toby is going to balance Noelle knowing about the player and Kris during the weird route. makes me think Susie's gonna bring it up to because of how chapter five ends and the talk she had with Noelle while we were fighting Kris in Dess's closet. really hoping for the cliffhanger of chapter 5 being us reuniting with the vessel but chapter 5 already had so much ground to cover
Kris Cuckmurr
>>737772667gotta agree as of now the prophecy is the worst thing in the game. there's no way toby's gonna be able to satisfy the one ending crowd and the rest of us who want to do everything we can to pave our own way. a lot is riding in chapter 5
>>737755997Give me that sweet sweet tragedy
>>737772153While that is technically true, I think the implication is clear. He's not doing anymore shadowdrops.
>>737758465Wouldn't the text in that image imply that it really was Kris that made her smile?Afterall, the red You is the player
>>737773209
>>737726003Chapter 4 sucks and it just dragged the story down
>>737773209>Normal route: Susie finds out Kris is a traitor and questions their entire relationship. >Player gets their vessel back simultaneously revealing they were her real friend the entire time and probably explaining kris is being forced to help the knight>Weird route: Kris has to third wheel at the festival in their own body. actual NTR plot.
Part of the problems with chapters 3 +4 vs 1 and 2 is the loss of mystery. In 1 and 2 we had schizo secret bosses. In chapter 3+4 we have trannynerism like a turtle and the night and the tryhard corrupt game cloak.It shows that from character 2 and 3 almost 10 years have passed, the vibe is different. They don't have the same vibe at all, I miss the schizoism. I don't know how to tell it, but it feels like the gay Tumblr tranny influence has increased on chapters 3 4.
>>737773553this is some fanart from the arg related to the weird route so the (you) here is supposed to be about the player
>>737726003They're both great chapters for their own reasons. 4chan has this problem where they see two things and think they absolutely must declare one objectively better than the other.
>>737773737the issue is the 3+ year long wait where people came up with their own deltarune that wasn't what toby was ever planning some of the fault lies on toby for development stalling as hard as it did due to content bloat, but some of it is on the fans for arrogantly assuming they knew the whole story with a mere two out of seven chapters
>>737773020My post was assuming that he wasn't expecting new sales from 5 release. >>737773459Maybe. If I expect a release date done in an event. Not a direct though.
>>737773862I replayed everything in one go and you can see a change in vibe. It happens a lot with artworks with a hiatus
>>737774138i agree that there was a change it tone, but i would argue that happened in ch2, then again in ch3 i think toby wants to lean more into the edge, but is restricted from doing so for whatever reason, either by his inability to convey it in a way he likes or because he's worried about fan response to it
>>737774381I just liked the schizoism, the whole spamton run was God tier and even snow grave was cool. The thing with kriss, the giant and the hidden corrupt game doesn't hit the same way, and the hidden bosses suck, jevil and spamton are 1000 times better than gerston and the knight.
>>737773209People expect me to root for Kris when I literally have to guide his dick in Noelle. I'm done with this idiot, give me my vessel back
>>737774556i agree that spamton is presently still the peak, but at least for myself, ch3 was schizokino with a lot of the speculation leading up to the release the titan being underwhelming is strange to look back on, the game treats it like a big deal and it certainly gives off the impression of one, but as far as chapter bosses go i think queen and especially tenna were better i think gerson being a breather crystal boss is for the best, as having too many schizopilled bosses in a row would be tired and repetitive after spamton, surely toby knew he wouldn't be able to top him so soon and didn't even try to, saving himself the embarrassment
>>737774884>>737774556I'm a pretty casual Deltarune fan, but I liked Ch2's Spamton/Weird Route stuff enough to replay it a half dozen times. But nothing in Chapter 3 or 4 really grabbed me the same way. And I appreciated the Weird Route sprinkles in Ch4, and the Whoriel ending twist, but nothing felt as cool/fun/interesting as the Cyberworld setting or the Queen and Spamton.
>>737774763pretty sure kris used the last of their will to make sure they didn't do that. (you) are going to need to consummate the marriage with Noelle. sorry anon. Or congratulations?
>>737773553This is a reference to the ARG when you said she didn't smile iirc.
>>737775095i think it's because 3 & 4 are breather chapters, ultimately which is strange considering how they both raise the stakes considerably, but ch4 cools off so much at the endit's not like ch1 or ch2 where the ending left you with a great feeling of wondering what will happen next i think ch5 will amend this, or at least i hope it doesall these years of waiting have been for ch5, whether people know it or noti'm certain toby does
>>737775514CH3 being a breather makes total sense. Sure, do the fun/silly/relaxed game show thing with Tenna, let people come down from the high of Chapter 2.But Chapter 4 felt like a breather chapter too for plot dump and other stuff, except I was already 'relaxed' coming out of Chapter 3, so now I'm more relaxed? It just made me bored, desu. and idgaf about Gerston, the weird titan fetus things, or whatever the hell else was going on.
>>737775696ch4 was plot progression for about 1/3 of the chapter, which isn't much but more than ch2 and 3 werei think a lot of the pacing issues come from 3/4/5 all supposed to be part of one release when they were first being worked on
>>737773348The prophecy is fine imo. The prophecy is alright as a narrative tool, it just kills any possibility of speculation because it's basically a canon script that we HAVE to follow. Chapter 5 needs to show how much we can divert from it plus if the Weird Route can stand on its own.>>737774763I miss my human wives as much as the next guy, but Kris being tsundere over needing us to not be useless has its appeal.
>>737773737You probably feel that way because the team worked more on 3 and 4 than 1 and 2. It's less Tobycore. I agree there's less of a mystery, though, but it's natural that will happen as the story progresses.
>>737724761Jackenstein was the most memorable part of this game to me. I’m not in the “community” but I did play through the 4 chapters once to see what the fuss was about. I kind of hate all of the main characters.
>>737776115Not Spamton or even Tenna? That's strange.
>>737774763I miss killing faggot skeletons and bloodthirsty fish dykes with me child Frisk.
>>7377260033 is fun but it is an absolute SLOG to replay for other shit
>>737724761Is Jackenstein meant to represent annoying, but cute, fans who pester Toby about how long he's taking to make the game?>>737726003Chapter 3 doesn't have a lot of enemies, Tenna is extremely similar to Spamton and the boards get repetitive. There's also no Hometown segment. If you don't do the extra/secret stuff, it feels like too little butter scraped over toast. Chapter 4 feels like it's missing something, too, but I'm not sure what.
Do you guys think thawing the chicken will do anything?
>>737777777
>make an entire boss as a vehicle for some self-contained YTP jokesKind of based if you ask me, say what you like about the guy otherwise.
>>737777967You can't get those here, only zeros.
>>737777773>annoying, but cute, fans who pester Toby about how long he's taking to make the game?Toby had a tweet where he said he showed off Jackenstein to his family and they said it was a cry for help because he still hadn't finished the game.
>>737777297Kris will never be as cute, loyal and determined as my wife Frisk.
>>737777057Tenna is tranny coded. I don't know how to describe it but it has that Tumblr Steven universe vibe.
>>737774138I feel like there was a bigger change in quality than anything. There's way more high-quality animations in 3 and 4.
>>737777943it's so he'll be cooked to perfection when we firegrave him for 30 minutes at 425 degrees
>>737777943No. Berdly is totally dead in Snowgrave unless you abort it in 4.
>>7377260032 > 4 > 1 > 3
>>737778187He’s only tranny coded in that he’s desperate for admiration and attention.
>>737774556I'm glad we didn't have Woody and similar Spamton 2 concepts, but I agree that 3 and 4 aren't as cool as 1 and 2. Gerson's problem is that he plays a trope too straight and only interacts with Susie, and ERAM is too much of a mystery box even if Mantle is kino.
>>737777943Berdly the Undying will be real
>>737778659Girthly post coma.
>>737775095I kind of like replying 3 because of the boards. It's fun getting a high score and going with the flow. 4 sucks for a replay, I agree.
>>737778376Human... I remember your poppets
>>737775514>>7377756963 was indeed a "breather" chapter but I don't get how 4 was one. It's a very tense chapter where our heroes hit emotional highs dozens of times. I feel like people only feel this way because 4 didn't have a huge cliffhanger like 1 and 2 and even 3.
>>737772587You know what, you joke but I wouldn't doubt Undertale had something to do with them, both appeared around the same time
i want my FUCKING vessel back ya cunt. whered you FUCKING put it
>>737779667Chapter 6, trust the plan.
>>737778620I'll agree that ERAM/John Mantle isn't as interesting as Jevil or Spamton but contextually it's the best put together of the secret content and I think the whole angle of it being the official introduction of the Weird Route in Deltarune will give it an extra point for people who come to play the game years later when all's said and done.As for Gerson, yeah, he's Susie's schizo and he's a bit bland but I think he instills a bit of hope and comedic relief in an emotionally charged chapter without going going too wacky (which is why Rouxls and Lancer were excised from this chapter as well). While he doesn't interact much with the others, his few interactions with Kris do stick out, going in between the paths and his trying to give hope to Weird Route Kris.
>>737777057Those guys got spoiled for me. Jackenstein came out of nowhere.
>>737779667our incredibly messy break up with Kris is coming soon. Chapter 6 trust.
>>737778187How? I felt he was made to be a tumblr sexyman instead, to the point I was surprised he actually hit off.>>737779945Surprised that you never saw "YOUR TAKING TOO LONG" before playing.
how many awful things do we need to do to Kris and by extension Noelle for them to let us out of our cage? we've traumatized Noelle to the point of no return and are probably going to do worse stuff. the plan has to not be worth it at some point right?
>>737780658Chapter 5 ends with Susie realizing the plan, getting into a fight with Kris, and because he doesn't want to hurt her he crashes out and permanently removes (You)
>>737780658You underestimate how much Dess's pussy CHANGED Kris.
Honestly what's wrong with being a cuck? As long as everyone is enjoying it I don't see the problem. And it's fucked up that everyone makes fun of cucks when there are way worse fetishes.
12/25 release date
>>737781181
>>737781181Asgore...
>>737781181Undertale/Deltarune?
I hope Dess doesn't look like the assumed generic punk deer fursona that everyone has agreed on because it would be boring as shit
>>737781618I can't see her being anything else, but how would your ideal Dess look like?
>>737781758Another adopted human or a non-deer monster would be a neat shock but it's highly unlikelyI would also appreciate the bold choice of never revealing her appearance
imagine the sex
So, what's in the bunker?
>>737782135Undertake, turns out they are all just Truman showing Kris
>>737726003it's skippable, that's all you need to know about it.
>>737782072who the fuck gave dess jew tats what the fuark
>>737781936the whole point of the game is finding this chick so we better see what she looks like>inb4 the real tragedy is that dess can't be saved and this whole journey was worthless
>>737782351its a kino starstorm reference doebeit
>>7377820721 > 3 > discount ryuko.all built for vessel after whooping her butt then saving her
>>737777967newfag-kun...
>>737782135Come with me to the bunker where its safe.
>>737782072gosh leftmost tummy is doing things to me
>>737733683>chapter 3 gets hard carried by the meme NTR couple content
>>737782679ntr couple? please elaborate
>>737755383Divorce is hereditary and does strange things
>>737755383is the soul banging toriel too?
>>737782072Desso sexo.>>737781936That's a copout answer when asking for her design. There's no way she isn't a deer monster.
>>737782135An entrance to the underground which is where all darkness is. ROOTS.
>>737779821I actually think the Sword Route by itself is the coolest secret route, it's just that ERAM is too much of a mystery nigga to make me care about it.Gerson giving out hope is based, it's just that he's legit just the wise old man trope and not much else. Maybe if they focused more on his family regrets and he interacted with Kris and Ralsei more, I would’ve liked him more.
>>737768568>>737768664>>737769234Seen so many people REALLY adamant about Noelle Angel, but I still don't think it's the case.I'm 100% Player Angel. We're the guiding light like the Angel is supposed to be, the Fun Gang was freaked out by the prophecy panel because we're a higher dimensional being being rendered to them, Angel's Heaven is the Castle Town literally bearing our name, and our banishment leading to our desire is getting the ending/answers of Deltarune.I do think that Noelle Angel is going to happen too, but it'll be in Weird Route. Noelle's ties to the Angel are all about her wanting the power and the freedom of it. We're monkey's paw'ing that shit in Weird Route by mentally destroying her while making her stronger so she can become the Angel instead of us. She'll get all that power she wants, but we'll be controlling and using her up in turn so she ends up banished and we get to cheat the game and go on beyond the end.
>>737783081heheh
>>737783543
>>737781618There are takes where she looks kinda like a weirdo and not really a cool confident tomboy
The Angel has always been made up of multiple parts.Asriel and all the Souls.Chara and Frisk and our power.Deltarune's Angel will probably be much the same way, multiple things in one body, most likely a Human Soul (us) in a Monster's body (Noelle/Susie/Dess/Jockington/Berdly etc)It solves every problem both sides of the theory has and lines up with pre-established Tobyverse writing.
>>737784120Honestly, I don't like player angel out of pure bias. I don't think any evidence for player angel is solid. The "guiding" stuff is vague and can apply to other characters, the prophecy is vague and the appearance can be explained by Noelle having a human soul and thus looking like a beast. There's so much evidence for player angel that even player angel theorists concede that Noelle will be a form of angel in their own takes, like you.
>>737784978autistic girlfailure dess is best dess explains her interest in milsurp and survivalist shit, along with her only friends being two children and asriel
>>737784979I always saw the Undertale angel as being just Asriel and Chara. Like, yes, it is Asriel with all the SOULS breaking the barrier, and it is Chara using us and Frisk to destroy the world, but it's still the two of them who do it. In this case even if Noelle is powered by us, I will still say it's her and not anyone else.
>>737785074there's also the fact that gaster summoned (you) in specifically to change shit
>>737784978why yes I quite enjoy ntrrune
>>737785349I always saw (us) as being the first hero, and I don't think being able to change fate makes you an angel. In fact, Gaster being the angel makes more sense to me than player angel.
>>737782679>>737783046He's talking about the Roulxs and the Weather Duo throuple, but it's not NTR.
>>737785503soul/ vessel is 100% the first heroi could see gaster angel, although that requires toby easing up on his embargo
>>737785501>Azzy marrying another girl... NO! I don't want that!
>zero Berdly mentions in the prophecyIf he never existed, nothing would really change…
>>737785638Gaster will obviously be important as we continue through Deltarune, and he fits the Angel as he watches everyone from above, guides them, and would look very horrifying, too.
>>737782135Sex dungeon (straight only)
>>737786073>Undyne was taken for shock therapy because she's a dyke
>>737785830It just occurred to me that Berdly and Undyne are the only lightners we've seen with dark world forms that aren't (at least directly) bound by the prophecy. I wonder what that means.
I don't mind Tenna, but it's very clear to me he's just diet Mettaton without the banging soundtrack
>Toby made Undertale when he was in High SchoolWhat's your excuse?
>>737785658>Keks Chara by saying Frisk was the better friend>Keks Dess by fucking dead and cold gray pussy.Why does this goat throw his former lovers with girls that wear two stripped sweater?
>>737786208Toby literally said Tenna was made to make you think of Mettaton.
>>737771557it's definitely going to be 2, or some other kind of Japanese related event. he's going to be obsessed with inserting himself into things jap related now that he had a taste
>>737785830If Berdly didn't exist we wouldn't be able to make Noelle stronger, though >>737786138Never realized that. Very strange. Although technically Toriel isn't in the prophecy either, only Asgore is
>>737784968Sexo tomboy.
>>737786129Kek and true
>>737786073> how to make deltarune fans truly hate your villain
Next chapter never
>>737788975Just WAIT a few months, chud. Keep WAITing.
>>737788846Will Carol's evil homophobic plans take the gay out of her?
Please Toby just ONE teaser PLEASE
>>737791103You have to keep WAITing and posting in endless traits. Just keep WAITing.
>>737782135Carol's sex dungeon for the soul/vessel
>>737791460Is Carol preparing Undyne to be our wife?
>>737751096It happens because of the episodic release format. People have to wait years for new content so of course they're gonna compare.
>>737791590no. she's getting (you) prepared for something
>>737791860I would shit myself with glee if the Weird Path ultimately becomes (you) discarding Kris' body at the right time, then fighting against Kris and Susie while Noelle (mindbroken) is on your side. Imagine the fucking KINO
>>737791103*raughs*
>>737755997Glory to the Holiday Administration.
>>737785503>>737785638The First Hero is "The Cage, with Human Soul and Parts". A cage is meant to hold something. The kanji used is even specifically 籠, one that normally means "basket" though it can mean "cage" and is specifically used in the world "birdcage" (鳥籠). The SOUL is a part of the cage as well, it's not the thing in the cage here.The thing in the cage is (YOU). You're the "light inside the soul" rather than just the SOUL itself. And THAT is the Angel, contained in the cage and guiding the heroes. It's why we can use save points, which many times specify only we can see and use them and we know how to intrinsically. And what is the only other time we notably see a savepoint like thing? The Titan, which uses a shield that looks like a save point. And the Titan is also covered in angelic wings and appeared almost like a human at first in silhouette before taking on this more abstract form. It is found in the darkest dark, the deepest layer of fantasy, while we're from lightest light, the most real world in this situation. The Titan is meant to parallel US here, a kind of mirror of what we are as the Angel. And that's also why our light specifically is necessary to close the Dark Fountains.
i hope we actually get superboss-tier combat encounters in critical route(original) jack-man was decently difficult, but he was too gimmicky, i miss jevil so much
>>737793121Dark TP fights open up a realm where the game can genuinely be punishing without making enemies do egregious damage, only issue is they can't be regular encounters since that'd be very tediousAs it stands, since we can heal via Ralsei, fights either need to do lots of damage or punish you for healing in order to counteract that to be hard
>first time fighting statue gerson at 3am with headphoneskino, those pitch black areas did start getting annoying going back to find the bells to unlock gerson fight, thank fuck you can skip that and just memorize the piano notes instead
>>737793802>fights either need to do lots of damage or punish you for healinganon did you forget the elephant in the combat room that is BULLET PATTERNS?i guess you can force it into "do lots of damage" bucket, but surely there is a difference between 60 damage froggit fly and 5 damage sword corridorconsidering limited inventory space for healing items, risk of stalling fights for TP heals, and reasonably low enemy health, it really isn't that difficult (design-wise) to make a difficult (for player) dungeonhence my mention of jevil: i like him as the "honest" boss that tests only evasion prowess, but isn't a massive wall like the roaring knight, and so a good template for harder dungeons
>>737766665chara knight
Arguments about Chapter quality are stupid. I judge the game by a room by room basis based on the music choice, what it adds narratively to the game, and if it's fun. The best room is obviously hence the Make a Machine to Thrash Your Own Ass room because it had amszing music, foreshadows the vessel returning, and is fun. The worse room is the moral choice room in Chapter 3. It adds abdolutely nothing to the game. At leadt even the room with the fireworks and mouse catching has a few shards of lore foreshadowing value with the weird shit about fitting everyone in one teacup
>>737794703Sorry, I feel like your point has barely any substance to it beyond your feeling that Jevil is "just right" difficulty-wise. And I don't agree, I think Jevil was on the easy side the Knight was what a hard fight should look like in Deltarune. The idea that the exact balance between dodging skill and numeric superiority present in Jevil is objectively the best in the entire game is kind of silly.
>>737771557Toby can you please release more sweepstakes soon if you're here? It's a really good companion piece and I'd sacrifice an entire chapter from the full game in exvhange for 100 sweepstakes pages with character stories and deep lore
>>737797253I have more trouble with Jevil than the knight whenever I replay. The knight is piss easy to me.
>>737797928jevil is difficult because of the lack of options you have to deal with himless inventory space, less health, and you need both kris and ralsei up to pacify himthe knight is easier because you get a damage reduction item, kris takes less by default, and the knight's patterns are pretty easy to dodge once you know how they work, even before the nerf
>>737751129i actually find the idea that Noelle ISN'T entirely blameless in the whole weird route affair to be more interesting. sure, there was manipulation, but eventually you're going to pass the point where saying "i was tricked" isn't going to cut it. not sure if we've reached that point yet, depends on your stance on darkners and how much they count as real people
air waves and from now on are my favorite songs
Autistic human girlfailurw dess
>>737781181Funniest post ITT
>>737799341kris is the only humanmaybe ever
>>737726003Tenma wasn't funny.
>>737782135piles of Asriel's dust
>>737726003I loved chapter 3 and really dislike chapter 4
>>737804197glooby ass post, I bet you still use email
>>737726119Zelda was the highlight of the game for me. I loved playing couch co-op with my vidya friends.
>>737733683I like the Zelda minigames, they're my favorite part. I don't like chapter 4 because its miserable and made me hate the characters.>>737734407this, the titan is the worst addition to the game. Hate that thing and its dogshit darkness mechanic.
>>737805756If I snort some, what will I see?
>>737808108It would be extremely painful
>>737798272Progressing the knight fight also just requires you to rude buster, if you're trying to pacify Jevil it requires a 3 turn action to progress the fight faster, if you want to heal up, pirouette is half as good. However I think it is easier to fight Jevil in general
>>737791860>Every holiday woman is a groomer that loves humansZAMN!
>>737811220Can you really blame them?
>>737795540>>737799341Neither Chara nor human Dess will happen, but the Knight does have a 999 motif and does use attacks similar to the ones in Chara fangames so that's the best you're going to get.>>737801629I still find it strange Kris is the only human in town to the point even this magazine points it out. Maybe Hometown truly is closed off to the rest of the world.
>>737799049Ralsei’s entire arc is about darkners mattering. They all matter.
>>737754664>Anyway it's 4 parts in a decade.
>>737792340>It's why we can use save points, which many times specify only we can see and use them and we know how to intrinsically.It's implied Kris can SAVE as well, due to having a save file before we get in the game. I don't think saving is something only WE can do.
>>737767740No mapo tofu scene no buy.
>>737793121I don't see that happening. The hardest fight in Undertale without counting genocide is Muffet, Asgore and Omega Flowey and none of them are hard and can be cheesed. I don't see any main fights in Deltarune being hard.
>>737813868I think that Kris save file was removed with ch3 and 4 coming out
>>737801629 if kris is the only human “maybe ever” then what the hell is the rest of the planet supposed to look like lmao the magazine straight up going “btw this kid is the only human in town” feels like toby waving a giant red flag at us. either hometown is some weird monster bubble cut off from everything, or humans exist and we’re just not allowed to see them yet. honestly the creepiest option is that humans do exist but they just… don’t come here. like kris is the town cryptid and everyone collectively decided to roll with it. would also make the whole “you control the only human soul in a monster town” thing hit harder if there’s literally no backup anywhere. dude’s out here representing the entire species by brooding silently and eating moss.
>>737814458Was it? I need to play in a fresh game to see if that's true, but it's weird Toby changed that.
>>737807971How did Chapter 4 make you hate the characters?
>2 day old thread on /v/Holy shit. It's actually over, isn't it?
>>737815184There's 2 current Deltarune threads, that's why. Both are close to bump limit, too.
>>737815348Oh, good. There's still time to writhe in the rotting corpse like maggots.
>>737815378I feel sorry if you're someone who just played it now, discussion ran out a long time ago.
>>737814664I'm not 100% sure. I remember people talking about it when 3 and 4 droped but I haven't checked myself. You had to have a clean install with ch1/2 where you get the black and green file select screen with to see it. Just deleting all your save files didn't work.
>>737815806I knew thst already but I thought that was still in. I guess both of us needs to check it.
>>737815929I pointed that out because it might be different now that it's officially out. It might still save data after uninstalling it idk.I can't be bothered to play through the whole game again so I won't be checking.
>>737816292I'm thinking of replaying it before 5 releases so I will check it out myself.
Fucked off from these threads for a couple of days. Anything of note happen?
>>737817015There's no news, nothing is going to happen for awhile now. Just eternal WAITing.
>>737816905kris's save file as of this moment is still there when you overwrite it in the dark world
>>737758556>posts the most obnoxious fanbases known to man>not annoying Almost fell for it
>>737771241>>737772587>undertale invented gender autism
>>737817015Nope, a big fat nothing
The Weird Route is about making Kris into your wife.
>>737772689HES DEPRESSED OK!? Noelle having sex would kickstart the apocalypse or something
>>737817697
Am I the only one that thinks that the boards in chapter 3 go by blazing fast when you know what you're doing? The first time around you're supposed to sit around reading dialogue, but since it's optional, you can just skip all of it, and the puzzles are easy and quick since it's a relatively small map every time.Compared to the lore dumps and climbing in chapter 4, it felt really fast, especially in repeats.
>ywn make kris your 19s styled lobotomized trad wife
>>737771241why do you even keep shilling this video to the one play that actively hates the non-binary shit. its not even that good beyond going "nuh uh" a bunch of times at least the girl krisfag was funny with how unhinged he could get
>>737783416We can only hope
>>737817697>>737817753>>737818443This makes the weird route even more based, but I didn't have to do that with my other human wives, they already were loyal.
>>737754839Unless it shuts down suselle too I don't want it.Suselle is unironically bad writing and character sabotage and the moment it becomes hard canon is when this place and the internet in general becomes completely unbearable for a while.
>>737817717>Me inside FRIEND
>>737819438there's so much drama BS going on in this game. i can't imagine the level of cuckoldry art and memes after chapter 5 drops
>>737818443Sad...
>>737818443i mean yeah you do that to noelle
>>737822349We're going to do it to Kris too.
what if Noelle was straight?
>>737724761HURRY THE FUCK UP AND GET OUT OF HERE I'M SICK OF LOOKING AT THIS SHIT THREAD IN THE CATALOG
>>737823320she will be when (you) get to her
>>737823419So...your telling me....were taking too long?
>>737822349Does are okay, but we're legally required to do that to humans, too.
>>737726003You see a lot of dislike of Chapter 3 from specifically people who didn't play the fucking game lol
>>737823419Here you go. Bump limit reached.
