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>how to make a MOBA fun
add walljumping, doublejumps and airstrafing
>how to make an EA shooter fun
add wallrunning, doublejumps and airstrafing (and giant robots)
Why are no other genres doing this exact formula to make their game fun?
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>>737732328
because of compfags not wanting to learn additional shit
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>>737732328
I love Deadlock.
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>>737732395
compfags fucking love their obscure tech
in CS you have to remember specific pixels in the sky to throw grenades in so it lands halfway across the map to smoke off a chokepoint
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I would probably enjoy Titanfall 2 even if it didn't have fun movement. When is Dieselpunk coming out I'm itching for robot fps fun again
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>>737732458
>waddling everywhere
dude what are you doing
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>>737732854
schmovement isn't what's holding me back. but I am improving.
(this is older)
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>>737732395
This is some peak projecting right here
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>>737732458
Are you spectating a bot?
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>>737733520
>no webm posted
opinion discarded.
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>>737733701
Oh you're that same shitter who spammed his garbage tier clips in overwatch threads
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>>737733863
I've never been in an OW thread. are people reposting my clips there?
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>>737732328
>modern game devs considering 'fun'
good one
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>>737733973
I guess you just happen to reply exactly like that other shitter does.
I seriously dont understand why you even clip gameplay like that?
You're waddling around and punching bot-tier noobs. There's literally nothing impressive about anything you're doing.
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>>737734135
>.webm missing
opinion still discarded.
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>>737734219
>Can't point out what's supposed to be impressive about his bot tier gameplay
I accept your concession
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>>737734135
just ignore the faggot spammer, he does it every thread because his alcoholic mother didn't give him enough attention when he was a child
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>>737734356
you should post your gameplay if you want me to care.
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>>737733479
Nigga please, so many shooters have infinite ammo these days because they are casualized.
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>>737734443
>Still can't answer
Concession accepted
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>>737734613
And some gamers dont even have guns.
Omfg so casual!
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>>737734443
>>737734219
>>737733973
you post the exact same nontent word for word in /vg/. borderline spam. please stay there you reek of shit
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>>737736213
I haven't been in /dlg/ for at least 6 months, and have no intention of returning unless the tranny, furry, faggot problem is dealt with.
cope. seethe. dilate.
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>>737736303
>I'LL TAKE YOU ALL ON!
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>Icefraud Farming Simulator 2026
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Because movement autism isn't fun
>B-but if you learn how to abuse the little bugs in it you can fly across the whole map in 2 seconds!
Not fun or balanced to chase after some literal(because only they play this game) tranny doing this, it also turns the game into a retarded CC fest since you can't kill anyone otherwise
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>>737736213
>NOOO DON'T POST VIDEOGAME CLIP
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it's so simple but it feels so cool when you spotdodge an ult with mina's iframes on TP
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>>737736895
>mods
/puke
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>>737737020
mods are better than skins cause they're free and clientside
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>>737732328
Nah. Like honestly, if anything, the actual movement and the shooter angle of Deadlock lets it down immensely. What makes it strong is a focus on role-agnostic gameplay and fast rotations between lanes. The movement and shooter elements enable this, but by themselves, they're trash, and for as much as they enable, they also inherently warp other aspects of the game around them and for the worst. Making gunplay exist in the same ecosystem as spell slinging abilities has brought nothing but misfortune and ruin to anyone that's a fan either styles of gameplay, as both have had to suffer for each others' sins.

You could totally make a different MOBA that doesn't have the same movement as Deadlock but still brings forth those ideas, and end up much better for it.
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>>737737181
>>737736303
>tranny, furry, faggot problem
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>>737737209
without the movement i think some really cheesy shit would be meta though
mcginnis having insane turtle and ground AOE is mitigated by everyone having doublejumps and dashes
while having high movement leads to more "actiony" goose chases across the map than just having dumb slap fights
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>>737736339
Lore accurate Mina
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>>737736339
>I will just refuse to take damage
What a great character
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>>737737608
I think last time I did the math I healed like 3k on lifestrike? plus dynamo rescue beamed and healing nova.
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>>737734356
>invents topic of an argument
>gets ignored
>"I won the argument"
Self-own. Butthurt. Rekt.
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>>737732328
Game is almost always fun, it FUCKING BLOWS when one solitary retard in your team dies 12 times in 18 minutes and the Victor he was feeding is 70% BiS and takes your entire team to kill him twice just for his team to clean the you up
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>>737738635
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remove the soul farm and cratesniffing simulator and it's fun
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I want to love Deadlock but the playerbase is too sweaty for me. I don't think I've gotten a single kill yet, I genuinely don't know how.
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>>737733101
God I love old deadlock looks so much more then the new cartoony look.
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>>737740403
boxfarm creates a constant low pressure decision of getting 200 more souls for abandoning your lanemate for 15 seconds
it's a risk reward type thing
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>>737740556
it implies your teammate can be left alone with defending your lane or would ping you when he decides to jerkoff in the jungle and let me go solo against two cunts hellbent on taking the walker
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>>737740678
exactly
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>>737738635
You came back just to post that?
Looks like I got under your skin.
Next time post good gameplay and none of your shitter noob shit
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>>737732328
forced gameplay I hate that shit
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>>737741860
>Forced gameplay
I kinda get the other buzzwords like "forced fun" and shit like that, but how is basic movement "forced gameplay"?
If anything, the farming simulator aspect is the "forced gameplay".
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>>737732328
>movement slop
>with Concord Tier Character designs
Valve is so overrated. A good 2/3 of their die hard cult fans are literally just eastern europeans who were to poor as kids to afford consoles and games, so all they had was free to play team fortress 2 and gmod maps.
thats literally it, stockholm syndrom tier nostalgia
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I think Calico's design is cool. Except maybe the robot hand.
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>>737737181
>Miku
>Not as Mikuguiness
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>>737742546
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>>737742573
Okay, clever.
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>>737732328
I want a MOBA \ Dota clone that lets you play as the tower unit, or directly control the puny feed mobs like in a normal RTS.
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>>737732328
you would be right if matches didn't last half a fucking hour

it's fucking exhausting and boring to play deadlock nowhere near as relaxed as LoL or DotA it can't be more than 20 minutes I don't play any movement heavy game that long without a break
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>>737744196
there's brawl mode that's an item roulette
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>>737737181
i remember in the early dota 2 days people were using anime mods and shit too, enjoy it while it lasts cause valve is gonna remove it someday
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>>737737181
what no paternal figure does to a motherfucker
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>>737732458
Not first person so it is trash
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>>737732328
>>737732395
>>737732458
>total lack of visual clarity with bullshit flashing everywhere
>confused and ugly mishmash attempt at artstyle
>movement is a straight downgrade from TF2's
>full of MOBA busywork and chores, killing trash mobs and sitting in menus and item shops for 30 minutes, so you can actually fight for 5 minutes

>THAT'S_A_NO,_LESBO.tiff
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>>737750076
downgrade from tf2 really
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>>737732328
>>737732395
>>737732458
>>737732490
>>737732628
>playing a they/them genderqueer otherkyn game
I expected better of you /v/
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>>737750145
Do I fit in yet guise
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>>737745578
it's still a good 2 years before full release and therefore monetization
so skins should still be good for a while
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>>737750565
>no rebuttal
>knows he's playing a they/them genderqueer otherkyn game
>doesn't like it but sucks down the cognitive dissonance
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>>737751392
I've got a rebuttal right here!
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>>737751392
What cognitive dissonance? I don't give a shit Pocket is an enby or that Calico is black. You're the only one upset here.
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>>737750131
yep. someone should tell the arab responsible for this tripe that less is more. fire the reddit writers and start over on that front while you're at it too
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Considering this is the 50s I imagine most of the cast are racist. Who do you think is the biggest racist? The meme answer is Seven but hes a massive individualist and wont judge people on their race. He will, however, drop statistics if he want to insult someone. My real guess is its Mina. She seems like her default insult is calling someone a nigger.
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>>737751969
>in the 50s
they all talk like they came out of the latest marvel movie or just saw the office. the setting is a joke
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>>737752083
Realism is fake and gay. Plus
>Expecting accuracy from Alt History
C'mon dude you do not know the genre at all stop larping
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>>737752083
No they dont.
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>>737752145
you're the one that started the conversation lol
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>>737751969
the racism has been fantasyfied into anti-magic KKK and anti ixian hatred in the setting
infernus is literally self-hating diaspora
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been 8 months since I last played it (when the samurai fucker is op)
anything I should know before jumping back in?
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>>737733101
people that say schmovement need to be deleted
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>>737732328
>fun
it's boring as fuck, valve needs to do way more to make it fun
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Why Yoshi pivots towards gun carries so much. Who the fuck asked for Victor to be a gun carry?
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>>737751969
None of the cast is actually racist until friends of humanity rep arrives. Even Venator is fairly progressive he doesn't really judge Ixians (demons) and raids said FoH warehouses.
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>>737732328
>how to make an RTS fun
add walljumping, doublejumps and airstrafing
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>>737751757
>I don't give a shit Pocket is an enby
>using "enby" unironically
troonshit
How far /v/ has fallen
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Why are all these characters so dei friendly man
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>>737755671
Propose a non-DEI friendly hero.
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Halo tried by adding advanced mobility in 5, but the game was horeshit outside the gameplay itself being really solid, and it resulted in a large portion of the fanbase turning into classic gameplay elitists. You literally can’t innovate the IP anymore without setting them off.
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>>737737181
HAVE A FATHER
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>>737756004
every single hero in dota.
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>waaah it's not tf2
>reeee the freakshow is too diverse
You fuckers can't just enjoy a game without wanting it to be something it's not or moan about race in a game where one character is sentient goo.

Until a few months back, it was "too ugly" and had people insisting the textures back then were final or that nothing new was going to be added before launch and we got a whole new mode.
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Honestly I think I hate this game
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>>737756718
Drifters fun to play but if you have a team that reacts to help a teammate quickly then its such a pain.
What build are you trying and do you stray form it much?
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>>737751969
Apollo, the Ixian supremacist
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>>737757189
It's a pretty standard build. Gun with duration and toxic bullets. Only unique part is veil walker instead of fortitude. Honestly, in some of these games I would go 16/5 and STILL lose, it's just such bs

This session has unironically put me in a shitty mood
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>>737758381
Personally I like grabbing express shot on him.
The melee items also increase the attack on his swipe and makes lifestrike a much more constant heal.
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>>737756585
>>reeee the freakshow is too diverse
omg so right sistyr diversity is our strength!! where is the trans representation?? when can we expect a pansexual??

I LOVE Valve's new progressive direction! Can't wait for them to apply it to the bigoted Steam community and store!
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>>737758381
how do you feel when a pocket/mina/dynamo/anyone with db cleanses your ult
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>>737761035
Not him but I think his ult has more use for the self-application of speed over the blindness



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