Are you playing it?Personally, I think nexon is fucking incompetent and will fuck this up. It will also be pay to win, but at the very least the launch hype will be massive and it will be fun to play for a month or two.What will you be playing? I wanted to try fire/poison mage, but since they nerfed fire arrow I'll probably go I/L or cleric instead...
Also, sharing some comfy wallpapers
Personally, I've always loved aqua road and especially these ship maps. They were pretty comfy to relax in
Ludi is probably one of the most soulful regions. That's all I have
Anyone try chronostory? Thinking about playing that since the recent buzz got me itching for something slightly close to the so-called classic server.I'm well aware it's not really the same, being ironman style, worlds-based, etc.
>>737737018The skill changes are pretty good. It's what nexon should've done, BUT, maple worlds feels too janky. It's like a flash game, it doesn't feel like the real thing, which is why I couldn't commit to it
/msg/ here we hate the classics
>>737737690That's because you're a sunk cost victim. It's the fate of all mmo players. Classic threatens to make your game more ded
Reminder that the twins are right.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fmpNdJ08PrM
Will they have a pq queue? I can't be bothered to spend hours more of my life spamming @@@@@
>>737737768That track sounds like future henesys/evere(?). Doesn't feel that "classic"
>>737737852Not everything must strictly adhere to classic you smelly retarded aurist.
>>737737967I think the music and aesthetics should definitely adhere to the classic style, my mentally ill friend.
what are some of YOUR CLASSIC HOT TAKES????SHARE THEM!!!!mine:I'd actually like some sort of daily quests to be added, not in the dedicated daily ui or daily quests delivered to you directly like in the modern live service games, but just nornal overworld quests that are repeatable daily. You still have to physically go there to accept the quests, and there can be multiple dailies depending on your level range.This might've already been a thing (don't remember), but these quests should actually give you a good chunk of exp along with possibly other rewards like mesos or random items.
>>737738003Nah, you're a boring idiot
>>737737164Yup, just started a character on it. Immediately, the fact that you can't jump attack is very disappointing. I'll see how long it holds my attention before moving on.
>>737737967>>737738128Trying to drive away the few players this shit has is not a wise moveBasedvegeta
>>737738128Hormonal imbalance? Are you not well regulated today? We can discuss contrasting ideas without name calling!>>737738030I wouldn't mind this or limited daily PQs that give better exp. A bunch of people are going to whine about this becoming dailies, but nobody would force you to do them and party grinding would still be the main source of exp. Regardless, PQs being useless right now is not ideal.A hot take of mine is this: revert fire arrow to the way it was before this last beta. Otherwise I/L is going to be meta as it's always been. Cleric should have a 10 to 25% weaker arrow attack than the other mages>>737738164I had a lot of fun reading their skill changes. They definitely gave them a lot more thought than nexon has so far
>>737737727if I whale in classic will nexon eventually add modern stuff like root abyss and make classic the new main server? because I will whale if so. the only reason I dont play modern is because I'm not playing 20 year catchup lmao
>>737738393I would like to say they will take the game in another direction, but nexon is terminally retarded, so who knows.
>>737738260No, you're a complete and utter moron.Listening to puritan dumbfucks all the time is the fastest path to failure.
Excuse me sir, the Forgotten Hollow music doesn't sound exactly the same as the old Studio EIM sound font, therefore it is not truly classic and must be removed from the game!
>>737738938>>737738987>Hey, the new music sounds a little too much like nu maple, maybe we should cha->NOOOOO YOU PURITAN DUMBFUCK NO ONE SHOULD LISTEN TO YOU REEEEEEWhy?
>>737739040It's funny that morons like yourself think music of all things is a point where Classic must deviate from modern.This is exactly why you puritans are so stupid. Completely and utterly blinded by nostalgia.
>>737738987The only people saying this are doomers and modern maple whales that want the game to fail. Anyone that actually wants the game to succeed is cool with it aside from the volume being too high, and actual "puritans" are content to stick to their private servers.
>>737737852It sounds like Hollow Knight music. And that's a good thing.
Soul vs Soulless
>>737740274Soul vs Soul
i never bought nx as a kid, were the nx faces and hairstyles permanent or did you have to rent them like the gacha skins?
>>737742958Hairstyle, face and skin were always permanent. However we will likely get the system of regular and vip coupons.VIP coupons allow you to choose your haircut/face which depends on the town.Regular(REG) coupons are rng in which hair/face you get and atleast with hairstyles it also had couple exclusive to the regular pool. This meant that some sought after hairstyles were locked behind rng and you could end up spending a lot of NX if you really wanted one from that pool of styles.I think facestyles had a similar situation, but can't remember.Eye/Hair color also had reg/vip coupons, but nothing exclusive in the regular pool iirc. So it was only if you wanted to gamble saving some NX instead of buying the VIP for a guaranteed color.
>>737736140Will it have the alien place with the power rangers at launch? I remember loving that place and doing all the super grindy quests that are totally not worth it.
>>737743585how does all that work? if you unlock a face or hairstyle from a coupon, is it "stored" anywhere? like could i switch to a different face between all the ones i own? or is it overwritten every single time and you have to buy a new coupon each time you want to switch back and forth?
>>737744123Overwritten unless they change that in this iteration of the game with some sort of catalog for cosmetics you've purchased
>>737743703Omega Sector. And no it wouldn't be available at launch as it's attached to Ludibrium which also won't be available at launch.
>>737744123Storing your style was a feature that was added much later, but I'm not sure if it's still a thing or how this works as I haven't played modern in years. This will very likely not be a thing in classic so I wouldn't expect it to be added.Everytime you use a VIP/REG coupon you will overwrite your current one and have to buy a new coupon if you want to change.
>>737744164I remember there being a boss or something like it at the end I could never beat. This time I'll have my revenge
what are you guys personally expecting will happen on may 11th? the game releasing? them announcing the release date? them announcing the date of the next test? them announcing anything at all?
>>737745436this shit isn't coming out until 2027. they were so adamant about calling this a closed online test instead of a beta so we're pretty far away from releasing.
>>737746179i mean if you look at it from a glass half full perspective, maybe they wanted to avoid calling it a beta because it is actually really close to finished
>>737745436Not necessarily on may 11th, but around that date seems to be rather obvious to expect some information due to the anniversary. I wouldn't expect the game to release, but actual release date is something I could see happening.They can also go the path of doing an open test first or something like open test to launch without wipes. All in all I still think the game is coming out this year regardless if there is another test.
>>737736140I can not imagine wasting any time on maplestory in 2026.
very important question:can i fish and is it any good/worth doing
>>737746317without a wipe would actually kill the game
>>737746632why would it kill the game, it'd just be like a soft launch. anyone who wants to play would be able to play anyways
>>737746632I more of meant what this anon said: >>737746663It would give them the opportunity to still tweak and balance things during the test under "expect adjustments before final release" or something. I still don't think they need that much time to adjust stuff from the closed test, but I'm not going to be suprised if they run an open test before launch either.
>>737746343Shit posting on v is more le productive?
>>737744123>catalog for purchased faces/hairNOT CLASSIC, YOU FUCKING FAGGOT.
>>737747128kek
>>737746364No. MS isn't like other MMOs like Runescape
this game will die if ludi is not on release
>>737736162Are these "wallpapers" AI Upscaled? Because the game sure don't look like that. The 2D art is dithered as fuck and probably still 768p.
>>737750553I don't know anon, they were found online. Maybe they are upscaled, or maybe they are extracted from modern maple data, which has higher res stuff.>>737750240Kind of agree. maple island is not enough content.
>>737740274>paid cosmetics and a working economy vs free cosmetics and no need for an economy because the server is getting shut down anywaythe comparison will make more sense when the game launches
>>737750240>>737750716I hope Ludi isn't on release, but comes very soon, like a few weeks or a month after release.
its better to do a fast release cycle than have it all there on launch, because it drives more hype online before it happens and keeps players invest for new thing being added without having massive gaps between releases
The smart play on Nexon's part is launch with just 2nd job and forgotten hollow, like the test, and RAPID drop stuff, every 2 weeks, another content update. 1st one is orbis, 2nd is 3rd job, 4th is dead mines (and maybe zak), etc, until they fill out orbis and then they can slow down to once a month and introduce ludi and after they get through ludi they can go back to seasonal.Not having at the MINIMUM biweekly updates kills the game immediately, no one's gonna sit around jerking off and waiting for content we know exists when zoomers are used to roblox games updating once a week every single week for months on end, even fortnite has adapted to it. Maple's update pace is WAY too slow by default.
>>737751285The smart play would be slow release of the content. What are they gonna do after 3 months when they've ran out content to drop if they release an area every 2 weeks, fresh servers?
dont really wana play until ludibrum. will probably just kpq until 30, get 2nd jorb, then idk.
Would you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MJljMmlWj8These are the people you will be playing classic with
>>737751716>>737751285How is that the smart play, drip feeding existing content doesn't bring in players it just causes them to drop it even harder and wait until the game has finished putting back in the basic shit that should have been in at launch.MMOs live and die based on NEW content, adding back in orbis and ludi is not new content it's old content, everyone already fucking knows everything there is to do in these continents and has experienced it before. OSRS didn't gain players at all when it added GWD back in, but it did gain new players when it added Zulrah.
>this guy trades you and asks for mesoHow do you handle this situation?
>>737752662>cancel trade>defame>block>cc
>>737752509if its drip fed you dont have to feel rushed and worry about falling behind on release, people who wait are retards forever behind
2 0 2 7
>>737752953>feel rushedBy who? 99% of players don't give a shit about "being behind" they just want to play a game that they enjoy and has plenty of stuff to do in it. Drip feeding content will kill both the 99% (casual) and 0.1% (rankings obsessed) players, so all you are left with is the 0.9% of losers who are obsessed with "being ahead" but not actually committed enough to go all the way.
yup you're right roblox and fortnite making up 70% of gaming's revenue in 2025 is total bullshit and completely wrong, players LOVE waiting 6 months between updates.
There should be regular content upgrades. It shouldn't be an all in one package with everything included from the start.It's actually fun to start the game with limited maps, and it forces players to grind in places that aren't in the private server meta.Deep ant tunnel grinds like wild kargo and drake meal table seem like they'd be comfy in party play
Reminder to convert your mesos to MP NOW, because value will drop when CW3 opens up and people are dumping shit tons to get mesos for cw.
bruh nobody actually plays on interactive
>>737753336You think this is going for the fortnite crowd? They're going for the boomer 30+ audience who don't necessarily mind the slower pace. Autists will clear all content in two weeks no matter how much content they push upfront either way.
>>737753362there should be regular content updates of new original content, not to drip feed old existing content that should have been there from the start.>>737753682Yeah and the boomer 30+ audience will drop the game before ever hitting 3rd job and never spend a single cent on the cash shop, nice you killed classic world good job.
>>737753682You think they're NOT going for the youngest audience to hook them before another game catches them and becomes their forever game????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>737753624Meds
>>737753739>there should be regular content updates of new original content, not to drip feed old existing content that should have been there from the start.no.
>>737753784With MSClassic? No. Doesn't Nexon have like 30 other MMO's for that?
>>737754042nexon has like 4 mmos to it's name, and maplestory is the biggest and most kid-friendly.
>>737736140bruh, we don't need daily threads for a game that won't come out in several months
>>737754925Yes we do
>>737754925You need to understand that these threads are Madwolf's entire life. Have some pity on him.
Anyone else thinking Classic might've been cancelled? It was weird for Inkwell not to mention anything classic related in the note. He usually talked about classic in every note.
>>737755857Is this like bait or are you on drugs?
>>737754992>Madwolfliterally who
nexon would never ever ever ever ever ever ever add p2w to any of their games
>>737756002this, nexon said they think p2w needs to be avoided to maintain the integrity of their games
>>737754925>we don't need threads about video games hitting bump limitYou have plenty of twitter screencap threads to post in.
>>737756158Im throwing out all my fell for it again awards
I'm excited for itI wonder what direction they're gonna take the game with black mage or of the picture
>>737756493I hope they just don't mention the black mage at all
>can't use custom cosmetics>can't be comfy and play it on your phone in bed>not even coming out until 2027>going to drip feed content so you have to wait even longer to even have the privilege to do ludi pq, but by the time it comes out everyone will have outleveled it>tainted by ride or die/althea saga already
>>737754873
>>737736140>It will also be pay to winAs it always was?
>>737736140Since no one is actually engaging in this thread, i'll bite. Yes I will be playing. I am going to play thief and my only hope is that they remove the game breaking min maxing the original had. HP washing, Dexless, Lukless, etc. I just want to see people geared out and partied up having a good time.
>>737736140Does Maplestory rely on nostalgia to be played in current year? I ask because I spend most of my time playing OSRS and Classic WoW, two 20 year-old MMOs. Tried Guild Wars 1 a while back thinking I might like that too, but it's genuinely kind of ass (I played 100 hours). It's the type of game you would only really like if you played it 20 years ago.
>>737758634Once you've put 50 hours in you've experienced all the game has to offer, you grind reskinned mobs for hours to increase your damage by 3%, the best part of the game is the soundtrack
>>737758634OSRS is good precisely because it isn't just 2007 runescape. Most of the game is completely different at this point.Maplestory has the same issue that it doesn't really hold up without major changes and new content.
>>737754925you can have 1 less thread shitting on marathon
>>737759675I'll go make another one right now
>>737759750its deserved but you dont need that many
>>737759785I know, I'm just being spiteful
>>737758634Yes but give it a shot anyway because it's just so charming.
reminder that im defaming closed test ring users on SIGHT
>>737759409>Maplestory has the same issue that it doesn't really hold up without major changes and new content.That's a shame, but kind of what I figured. They're probably not gonna revamp the whole game, the profit isn't there.Like you say, OSRS is a totally different game now, and not just because of all the new content. Massive early/midgame rebalancing, the black void is no longer 10 tiles in front of you, the "Loading -- please wait." stutters every 20 seconds of walking disappeared years ago, the framerate is better... the core game is a lot smoother.>>737759281>>737759962Okay I might still give it a try when it's out, thanks anons. But I won't expect a 20k hour time sink
>>73776081320k hours is a ton. If you get hooked on the visuals and it brings you dopamine you can still be looking at couple thousand hours with this game.It offers a lot of mindless grinding for numbers go up, but also has some unfortunate money spending tactics as most f2p games do.
What is the endgame of Maplestory? Why spend 300 hours grinding to max level?
>>737762471getting an e-gf
>>737762471humans just like the dopamine of number go up.
>>737762471>What is the endgame of Maplestory? Why spend 300 hours grinding to max level?What the fuck are you even asking about? Have you ever played a pre-wow mmo in your life? Grinding is the fun itself, you're not leveling to "do weekly endgame content ad infinitum", you're leveling because its fun and you're enjoying going to all the maps, killing mobs and farming gear.
>>737762471
>>737762707I've been trying to get an e-gf for 15 years I don't know what I'm doing wrong
mapleland is still big 2.5 years after release but I just don't see westoids having enough dedication and persistence for Classic to experience a similar level of retention
>>737754925it has stayed up since last night (that's what your mom said), so clearly people want to discuss the gamewhy don't you take a hike 'bruh'
>>737758405So? Doesn'tmake it right or desirable, turbonormie cattle
A list of all the Pay2Win/Pay4Convenience items that were available in OSMSGachapon TicketsAmoria Party Quest (APQ)Bronze, Silver, Gold meso sacksVegas ScrollsMiuMiu portable NPCTemple TicketsScissors Of KarmaHammers (Added Slots To Weapons Up To 2)Pet HP/MP autopotPet Meso MagnetPet Item PouchPet Wing BootsPet BinocularPet Item IgnoreUse, ETC, Equip Additional Inventory SlotsTeleport RockVIP Teleport RockSuper MegaphonesItem MegaphonesRegular Store PermitsNPC Store PermitsOwl Of Minerva (FM Search function)SP ResetAP ResetChalkboardSafety CharmsMaple Trading System (MTS)2x EXP Coupons2x DROP Coupons
>>737765708>Regular Store Permits>NPC Store Permitsthey could easily fix this by making regular permits free but you have to keep your character there with the game running
>>737766992Shitty practices overall. It's not cost effective IRL to leave your computer on all night
>>737767098Nexon does not give a fuck about the environment
>>737764460Literal chink bugmen mentality, kys.
>>737766992That is literally how regular store permits already work and you fucking pay for them. NPC store permit is the one that lets you keep selling without needing to be actively present.
>>737767310Quite the opposite, actually. When you play a single player open world game do you rush to the end and then turn it off or explore the world and try to experience most of the content you can?Its bugmen that need a checklist of things to reach endgame as fast as possible so they can keep up with their dailies and weeklies.
>>737767171It's not about the environmentThe point is that it forces you to buy the more expensive version anyway
>>737768527>grinding in the same map for dozens of hours = exploration in single player gameslolthat anon is right, the game is really for the braindeadsanyone with a functioning brain would just explore the map for nostalgia and quit once the novelty wears off
the endgame content currently is jr balrog btw
>>737769694who bothered to waste their time making this
>>737769694
>>737769821https://meowdb.com/msclassic/guides/lv-50-class-dps-rankings
>>737769694how does page with 1h+shield do more damage than a page with a 2 handed weapon?
>>737770050faster speed gives more dps
>>737769883>>737769694People are actually going to get baited into picking bandit because of this list and then realize the class sucks donkey dick going into 3rd unless you have jef bezos amounts of mesos
>>737769694I thought sins were supposed to be nerfed
>>737770164what's even the upside to using 2handers then, you take more damage and do less damage?
>>737770431they look aesthetically cooler
>>737770431These types of charts are done under optimal conditions.In practice 2H will do more damage overall. It's only in a vacuum where monsters aren't moving and you aren't missing does 1H win.
unironically what is even taking so long
>>737770531Sounds like massive cope
>>737765708A lot of this stuff, if not all of it, should be locked behind long questlines to maximize player engagement. If people have to grind that much to get a pet and pet items then they know they'll be playing the game for much longer, and they know they'll be rewarded with vital upgrades if they put in the time, therefore they'd be more willing to spend money on cosmetics. No?
>>737770647They literally specify that 2H is stronger per hit but just get dragged down in the DPS charts since it's in optimal conditions on the same page
>>737771047All end game bosses are literally static jpegs
>>737771108Yeah and archers were missing green mushrooms
>>737752483>>737752980what model and workflow do you use for these bro?
>>737771670he's probably some sea turdie that doesn't even know about local models
>>737736140Have people been asking for the devs to actually distinguish a difference between warrior 2nd/3rd jobs with primary skills? It would be cool to roll a page and actually have fun and an effective role
>>737770310dit is boring anyways all its moves are lame af other than sb and not until 4th do you get other interesting attacks
so how long until they release 3rd job?it's taking so fucking long just to balance 1st and 2nd job
>>737762707>non answer>>737762889>another non answer>>737764460>extremely defensive answer>>737764515>another non answerThis game is gonna die in like 2 months huh
Runescape is better
>>737738987This but unironically
>>737770431there is a sword called the stonetooth sword that has fast swing speed completely btfoing any non two handed sword
>>737769694>>737769823>>737769883>they used archer’s PKB to calculate these numbers Jesus this game is fucked
i dont really care about the game itself i just want to use it to get an azn gamer gf
>>737775143Go outside.
>>737762471Says as he spends 40 fucking years grinding to retirement
>>737773945That shit is not coming to classic
>>737736140I still haven't gotten my survey. These niggas can't even send emails right.
classic will be a flop for nostalgia tardst.290 on numaple
Looks like /msg/fags are here to stink up the thread again.
>>737778590>bowmaster>uses gun
>>737778590Fuck off back to /vg/ nupler zoomer.
>>737778590>literal prostitute as a class
>>737738030I have a lot of hot takes, mostly in response to the popular feedback people have given.>class rebalancingWait and see approach. Holy arrow needs a nerf but otherwise you can fix most issues by giving archers jump shot+improving projectile downward trajectory issues, doubling iframes and improving weapon defense for warriors, and adjusting the accuracy formula which would benefit both. Individual skills are mostly balanced fine, though some definitely need tweaks it can wait until further down the line.>give more potsFix the iframe issue and buff wdef and more pots isn't necessary. Simply adding more pots is a lazy and stupid fix which doesn't address the actual issue which is getting tossed like a salad by enemies = you chug more pots.>buff kpqMaybe a tiny tiny xp buff but otherwise it's fine. You can run it without any restrictions or limitations so overbuffing it would turn it into the new default grind spot, and people grinding kpqs will make the world feel empty since it's instanced. Also people will be sick of muh nostalgia iconic comfy PQ grinding when they realize the most optimal xp gain for 10 levels is just doing the box puzzle for 10 hours.>pirates/ludi/whatever on launchLaunching with 2nd job and nothing stronger than rog but releasing other stuff down the line is obviously preferable. Most players will take months to hit level 50, let alone 70.
>>737778248it is one of the most popular chase rares from gacha, it is absolutely coming to classic especially once they have a palatable pay to win system
>>737778590This poster is Madwolf.
https://youtu.be/G0J-1_3Riqc
>>737779046lmao gacha walling a bunch of JMS gear until much later into the game’s life cycle and they added the mushroom shrine maps with tengu and himesthough if red katana and the whips still exist on classic with fastest AS people will probably try min max with that + scrolled shield attack
>>737780973>open video>rogue>close video
https://youtu.be/gWzpN3NptQU
Anyone else want to say their thoughts?
>>737783146It's not old school classic maple. it's new school maple. The changes they added is more than Big Bang. I don't think I want to play a new 2D mushroom game in 2026.
>>737780973surprisingly good takes for someone who was asking for dailies and battle passes in Classic World just a few months ago
>>737783265you wouldn't keep playing actual old school classic maple
>>737758539It's already been removed for every class except mages.
>>737779046Doesn't matter autist, it's an ugly JMS sword and never fit the Classic aesthetic. It won't be in the game.
>>737771670It's a combination of Qwen Image Edit 2511 and WAI.>>737772068>t. moron
>>737780973>nexon creates an item stimulator that drops from world bosses, even low level bosses like mano>ignores the obvious fact that higher level maplers are going to spam kill for easy stimulators>nevermind the accuracy/wdef/diagonal range attack issues everyone noticed before level 20they dont even play their game
>>737752980
I want them to add Pirates. I want to play Buccaneer.
>>737787594interesting, how do you combine/mix models? do you generate with one and then do an edit pass with the other? I've been playing around with this workflow from civitai red models slash 2167203, it seems to use Qwen Rapid AIO and I generally liked the results
>>737788572It goes like this:Pic related into Qwen Image Edit 2511 (I usually use generic workflow, not AIO). Prompt is to just remove clothes/make naked.Once I get a good enough output, I take it to a WAI inpainting workflow: https://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girl#inpainting for refining detail and making sure the artstyle is consistent.To summarize: Qwen is good for making broad changes to an image like clothing removal or changing pose, but it's partially censored and doesn't do the best job with details. Combining it with good old inpainting gets overall good results.Can also use the Maplestory-style loras for inpainting which might get you more desirable results.
>>737788998I've also experimented a bit translating in-game models to maplestory-style official art with image2image. Still not 100% sure what the best settings are, but it more or less works.
>>737788998>>737789140I see, that makes sense, spending more effort on the refinement to get the details right, I might play around with that sometime, but I'm not gonna lie I really enjoy the convenience of this editing, describing stuff with natural language and not fiddling too much is very chill, although yeah it doesn't get everything right and can take a couple gens for something you like, I suppose I am just lazy though
>no new public test in sight>hype diminished>same AI slop on loop>ritual posting>tuber shillingyep, time to hibernate lads
>>737789727at least this thread was less irrationally angry for no reason compared to previous threads and there was actual civilitybut yeah, this is an actual general now, hoping people at least stop replying to the same goddamn ritual posts and spams though if the general continues
>>737789576For what it's worth, it doesn't take that much extra effort. I actually think inpainting is quite fun because you can very easily reroll specific parts of an image for much better results. Stuff like breast size or sagginess is trivial to change.The most annoying thing is fixing hands, but if qwen doesn't mess them up then it's not a big deal.
>>737736140I was invited to the closed beta and then forgot to play it.I don't know why I was invited, I never played Maplestory in my life.
Thoughts on Artale and Chronostory?
>>737790569They're alright, although I don't like how in Chronostory the meta is doing the 999 kill quests
>>737790569They're fine. "Official" private servers basically
>>737790569what's the difference
>>737791062NTA but Artale tries to adhere to classic maplestory while chronostory does custom balancing.For instance in chronostory, threaten is an AoE attack
>>737791193but Artale completely reworked stuff too?how much does Chronostory change that Artale becomes an "adhere to classic" server
>>737791310Maybe it changed since I played but the largest different in Artale from classic was event jump quests.Chronostory just overhauls skills entirely.
>>737791310The changes in Artale, like Fire Arrow hitting 3 mobs, are very minor compared to Chronostory's changes
>>737787116You mean Lukless? If mages are still Lukless I am going to be so peeved. If the best wand in the game is the fucking starting wand still, that will be a huge fucking shame.
>>737751809she fucks pigs... so no
>>737790569>maplestory worldsnty
anyone have some good 1x server recommendations?
>>737789856It's been established that classic is going to be dogshit and acknowledged by Nexon that it will be catered for numaplers. Only zoomer larpers and streamers will play it so nothing else needs to be said.
>It's been established that classic is going to be dogshit and acknowledged by Nexon that it will be catered for numaplers. Only zoomer larpers and streamers will play it so nothing else needs to be said.
>>737794756Artale
>>737795640kek
>>737792061They changed the ratio of int:magic attack so it isn't 1:1 anymore. You will actually want to upgrade your weapons ASAP now.
>>737789856i actually prefer the retards flaming eachother to the slop poster
What do you think of Dinofries review of Maplestory Classic?https://docs.google.com/document/d/12BKxLuIaJoi5Xlr-PLtIblFGLk6Gg52P1AuM_lm6tUA/
>>737797434Same
>>737797654I agree with just about everything in there, as I think most people that played in the COT would. Aside from Three Snails. It should not be a free to cast skill, it should consume shells like it originally did.
>>737797654>"The SP pool is too small. Players should be able to max all their Skills in each Job, like how you can now max all Beginner skills. Maybe Skills should be adjusted to cost less SP to max as a solution."Looks like dinofries wasn't /ourguy/ all along.
>>737798108If you think all skills should be maxed for every job, then you should go and play nuMaple and leave Classic alone.
>>737791310I looked up a couple of vids of chronostory and it unironically looked liked it plays closer to maybe 2015 era maple
All skills should be able to be maxed unless you're a nexon slurper who wants them to sell skill resets
>>737798248>All skills should be able to be maxed unless you're a nexon slurper who wants them to sell skill resets
>>737798248also the drop rate on all items should be 100% and items shouldn't cost mesos and there should be no xp loss on death
>>737798248no, fuck off you casual moron. this same debate existed with diablo 3.investing in a skill should be an actual investment of growth and something to distinguish yourself from the rest. if you choose axe, you fight with axes, you don't get to use swords for free.everyone having skill parity is modern maplestory 101.
>>737798162I said "just about". I don't think players should be able to max every skill for every job with the caveat that nexon actually make it worth taking different skill investments so different builds are viable. Otherwise what's the point?
>>737798114The thing is, for certain cases, like warrior and magician 1st job, you're locked out of an optimal 1st job build unless you SP reset later, in 2nd jobThis is deliberate so you pay them to not have a gimped character
How come these people posting their feedback keep saying Wep/Mag Defense feels bad? Have they not played Classic Maple? Flat defense increases were always bad.
>>737798706I think it's more that it feels like defense has not been adequately adjusted to compensate for other balance changes that result in you taking more hits more frequently compared to original maple.
>>737797654>The SP pool is too small. Players should be able to max all their Skills in each Job, like how you can now max all Beginner skills. Maybe Skills should be adjusted to cost less SP to max as a solution.>Warrior weapon skills (Final Attack, Mastery, and Booster) should be consolidated. Don't force Warriors to choose between Sword or Axe, Sword or Blunt Weapon, or Spear or Polearm. Let them swap freely. >Heal’s range and recovery is too low. The amount of HP recovered and the range should be buffed. Offset this by removing Heal’s ability to damage undead monsters. Clerics no longer use Heal to damage monsters anyways thanks to Holy Arrow.>Dark Sight appears fully invisible to others. This is probably a bug. It should display as transparent, like how Dark Sight always was.>Separate Classic and Modern GMS clientsI don't believe he knows what's best for the game.
>>737798698No you're not idiot. If you want the optimal long term build you accept the main and build for it. It's always been that way and always should, regardless of what you casual pissants cry for.
>>737798818>Separate Classic and Modern GMS clientsThe other ones are gay but what's wrong with this one? You want to download the bloated modern client just to play Classic?
>>737798706% defense is definitely more balanced than how it used to work but it also feels completely useless when the enemy only does like 90 damage. Maybe some combination of % wdef plus a flat damage blocked based on level differential, idk.
>>737798248Nah they should just let people automatically max a skill when they put a point in it and also make leveling fast enough that the average casual player can get to lv50 in a day or two and also make the base speed 150%
>>737798558>investing in a skill should be an actual investment of growth and something to distinguish yourself from the rest.Ok, but then take sp resets out of the store
>>737799338No, there's nothing wrong with profiting from dumbasses who are either stupid enough to invest in the wrong shit, or too impatient to roll an optimal build.
>>737799554nta but i actually kind of agree with this a lot. if people want to do some weird shit where grinding early levels with one skill is more efficient than another or whatever, then resetting when they don't need it anymore, then i don't really care if they pay for that when i don't need to do that and it's likely only marginally better and i don't really give a shit about that tbdesu
>>737799749It doesn't sound bad until you see the extreme of it. Ryambi was spending $100 every 5 levels for full AP resets/sp resets/weather buffs on Artale. If that's how Classic is going to be then no one will play it.
>>737736140>Are you playing it?Plan to, yeah. Been watching tons of coverage of the COT and I'm dying to play. Played all sorts of classic servers and the classic MSW games but I'm stoked about the concept of an OSRS equivalent in Maple, even if I don't trust Nexon and half the community ends up being numaplers that don't get it. >What will you be playing?Bit of everything but my consistent mains of ~20 years are fighter and cleric so probably those.
>>737799921I don't really give a single fuck about what ecelebs do I just want to play not-nuple
>>737799749>marginally betterThe problem is that it's not marginal. Take a look at warrior 1st job, for example
>>737800095>muh 1st jobJust learn to be patience you embarrassing shitter.>>737799921>RyambiYou know what else this guy did? Got to level 50 in the closed test playing bandit, without going sindit. He went melee the entire time while everyone was crying about accuracy and potions.You know how he did it? By being patient.All you have to do is be patient, but you shitters always want instant gratification.
>>737800050Retards should absolutely NOT get a free get out of jail card for $3-5. They need to be filtered out or forced to remake and make a proper build. Inkwell should limit job SP even further and only let us max one skill in 2nd job
>>737800212Meds?
>>737800235>no argumentno problem idiot, keep crying about being too shit at the mushroom game
>>7377785901/6 only the hayato looks nice
>>737800212You never watched his stream.He also abused the SP reset system here. He played like the exact opposite of someone patient because he never stuck to one build and kept using the SP reset. This shit makes Classic too easy and shouldn't be in the game.
I see he's arrived, it was a good thread while it lasted.
>>737799921>some literal who retard was spending all of his autism bucks resetting his skill for minimal gainAnd? Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you? Who gives a shit. I can play the game just fine without needing to reset my skills and what some nigger streamer does is completely irrelevant.
>>737800324No idiot, he used AP resets specifically for job advancement, but that was because the monsters weren't implemented properly and being fixed.Aside from that, people were using SP resets to test different skills because it's a PLAYTEST, idiot. SP Resets do not help a melee bandit get through levels 1-30. If you actually watched his streams, you would've seen he was just being patient using regular attack and making an effort to avoid getting hit. Again, something shitters like you aren't capable of.
>>737800386The game needs a retard filter. SP resets essentially remove it and make build planning pointless.>>737800445Ryambi is a clueless shitter and if you're glazing him you should kill yourself because you're a dumb faggot.
>>737800578>The game needs a retard filter.It's not 2005 anymore we can't have that, games now need retard farmers because the devs want money. These are koreans we're talking about, anon, be realistic. No shit things like SP resets are immoral and scummy but for fucks sake again, it's Nexon, they are koreans. You are making an enormous deal out of something that absolutely will not change, and something that doesn't even matter to anyone except the top 1% of autistic grinders with a fat wallet and streamniggers who play video games for a living and are willing to drop money to do whatever gay shit no one actually cares about.
what do you guys think of a QoL that delevels you (temporarily) to certain threesholds (30, 50, 70, 100, 120, etc.) so you can do PQs outside your level range for collectables? Say you're lvl 120, delevel to 30, all your equipment that doesn't meet reqs is removed, your AP is reduced, SP reduced for the respective advancements, etc.So any PQ is available content for all levels (nuMaple eventually did this but just made it so that the PQ scales to your level which is worse imo because the charm of lower lvl PQs is the lower advancement gameplay they have).It would also create an economy for lower level equipment (people who want to flex a funded lvl 50 for LPQ, for example)
>>737800743>It would also create an economy for lower level equipment (people who want to flex a funded lvl 50 for LPQ, for example)this literally used to be a thing, this is a good idea, i like this a lot.
>>737800578You're the one who brought him up in the first place you laughable dumbfuck. It's not my problem you didn't realize your own example would backfire on you.
>>737800578Rather, it needs retards to support it financially in ways that don't actually matter to normal people. Shit like HP washing and Gacha can go but SP resets for autists that think they need a new build every five levels? Let them inject their retard dollars into the game.
>>737800680There has to be some compromise. I'm not playing if streamerfags are just going to SP/AP reset for every new training zone like in Artale. The SP resets need to be $99 to make skill builds matter and only buyable after you played for 90 days, with a cooldown of 90 days to prevent abuse.
>>737800578>>737800680>GOD NEXON ARE SUCH SCUMS! IF THEY WERE DECENT PEOPLE THEY WOULD MAKE THE GAME FREE TO PLAY, FREE COSMETICS, FREE EVERYTHING, AND THEY WOULD COVER DEVELOPMENT, MAINTENANCE AND SERVER COSTS THEMSELVES OUT OF THE GOODWILL OF THEIR HEARTS!
>>737800856I'm sure Nexon could figure out other ways to monetize the game.
>>737800941Why are you so adamant about protecting retards? What is the issue for you with taking advantage of retards to keep a game you like alive?Unless, of course, you are one of those retards.
>>737800941>g-ghh, i don't know much about marketing or free to play business models, or the data specific to maplestory classic, and i clearly don't know what the fuck im talking about, but there must be a way! there just must be!
>>737800841Ryambi was leeching in my party. He got carried to 50.>>737800894>let me pay2win who cares >>737801056I am against SP resets my retarded friend.
>>737801060Cute projection, little clown. Did your brain explode trying to think of anything that's not an NPC coded response?
>>737801120>leechingretard
>>737801154>projectionThis is how low-IQ idiots like yourself always cope after being exposed.You're the type of entitled moron who wants everything in life to be free, and cry every time you're expected to pay for something.
>>737800894I don't watch streamers so idk who you're quoting
SP resets should be mesos only. If they add them like in beta then it's a benign pay2win that will create a slippery slope into sneaking in battle passes and hyperburns.
>>737801120Hi Madwolf, still off your meds?
>>737801372All good things in life are free.
>>737801430You are a delusional retard thinking there won't be pay2win. Learn how the world works you dumbass.
>>737801487>Wahhh the game is too hard I need to pay 2 winYour mother is going to die in her sleep the next time you swipe lil zoom zoom
>>737800880The compromise is that they fund the game doing retarded gay shit nobody cares about but them and people who want to be number one in a korean mmo, and that we get to play official not-nuple. I honestly don't see the problem, it isn't like they are designing content around p2w stuff like potential and cubes like they did. SP resets are meaningless if you aren't a little baby that needs to be convenience'd at every step of the way. It's a video game not a microwave or a refridgerator. I don't play nuple but stuff like the pet vac sounds cancerous and that's the point where I will concede with cash shop shit. I do not care about SP resets, again you are making a massive deal out of nothing at all. No one truly gives a shit, autistic fags who do care about that do not affect me or my experience and probably like the game enough that they themselves are ok with it. They are not cubing/wsing perfect gear at lv26 and doing 700 dmg lines while I'm f2p doing 160 dmg on power strike or whatever, I don't care
>>737801574Here's the thing idiot: I'm not actually going to pay for any of those things.Just like the old days, I won't need to pay. Stuff like SP and AP resets is just paying for convenience of paying to save time.But alas, worthless piles of garbage like you will cry about it anyway. It's how entitled trash like you live your life, expecting absolutely everything to be free.
ryambi is popping tren off-cycle and is paying private server pinoys thousands to grind for him on stream which is why never shows his desktop
>>737801684These are the same kind of people who say black desert has 3 mandatory subscriptions when 2 of them are so useless and abundant that only a literal retard would pay real money for them and the third one has been powercrept into oblivion and only matters to people who care about fashion
>>737801670Having a mandatory sp reset for 2nd job will turn away a lot of people. Its like telling someone you need to buy a ticket to advance to 2nd job. People are going to get the wrong idea, and minmaxers are trying to push it just so they can abuse it and make progression free,not support the game. It's like duping rare candy in pokemon. Sure you can have a lvl 99 perfect stat but it wasn't acquired through regular gameplay. If you don't care you can shut the fuck up and exit the discussion without humiliating yourself further.
>>737801784Your streamer argument backfired madwolf. It's time to swallow your pride, take the L and move on.
>>737801684Find another game to pay2win in gachatard. You obviously want to shill SP resets just so you can easily abuse them.
>>737801964>It's like duping rare candy in pokemonIt's simply not something I have to give a shit about lol, nolife top fags have never been legit or ethical and have always exploited everything they could since MMOs became a thing. This seems to be your first MMO ever
>>737801980I guess you can't handle the heat lil kiddo, already making an escape. Ok run away thinking you won then.
>>737802048I hope you realize that saying "you don't care" concedes your own argument, but you're too stupid for that.
>>737779006>you can fix most issues by giving archers jump shotGreat way to start off your post with the single most retarded idea I have ever heard in my life.
>>737736140>It will also be pay to winIt's always going to have some elements of this to some degree.Inventory expansion, pet looting, shops...As much as people wish the game was run on rainbows and farts, this is nexon we're talking about.They are going to make their money back.
>>737802037I'm not shilling anything, I'm calling you a crybaby idiot for crying about a standard free-to-play business model.
>>737802086We're still not playing MapleSilver with you.
>>737802210>As much as people wish the game was run on rainbows and farts, this is nexon we're talking about.>They are going to make their money back.It can be profitable without predatory tactics, but that will never happen because you have shills working for free and enabling bad, anticonsumer practices
>>737801980>>737802298qrd on madwolf?
>>737802265>>737802265There's no way to stop the slippery-slope, once you introduce pay2win, the paying players will push for more and we are suddenly paying for Orbyss Express hyperburn to 70 with the El Nath Battle Pass that skips the 3rd job advancement.
>>737802142You seem insistent on trying to make me or anyone care about something extremely trivial
>>737802410Madwolfs /v/ guild was the only one to kill Horntail on Royals because he leeched everyone to 120.
>>737802535It's not trivial, it's going to let people get ahead of others through pay2win and no one wants to know the top players and streamers are all phonies abusing SP resets. It's going to invalidate all the initial week 1 hype when people find out the meta is going to cash shop and sp resetting for gains.
>>737802410Schizo autist who lead the 2016 /v/ Royals guild Comfy (later became Kusoge).He quit, then came back trying to convince us all to play MapleSilver with him. We didn't, then he got mad and expelled every non-Jr from the guild.
>>737802468I'm just not going to worry about this shit. too much It's just a mushroom game bro, relax.
>>737802879Sounds like cope.
>>737802796It's pretty trivial and no one realistically cares what top players do
>>737802839why did you let him run the guild?
>>737802894Ok then since no one cares and it's trivial then SP resets may as well not be in at all. Glad we can agree.
>>737803085We didn't, he lead Comfy but not Kusoge, and got mad that he could only be a jr in Kusoge.
>>737803212>then SP resets may as well not be in at allSee >>737800680
>>737801964>mandatorymuh 12% FD, muh XP rates going from 8.7/hr to 8.9/hr
>>737803342They wanted to play with Troons and Madwolf kicked all the gays/faggots out of kusoge.
Based Godwolf
>>737803349You'll have to make a better argument than "no one cares" because it goes both ways. Just like your side doesn't care about them being, my side doesn't care about them being in. If you can't come up with anything better than your argument is conceded.
>>737803085It was still early discord days but you know the guild pretty much turned into an Lgbt dating simulator by the end. All the initial anons left before the split and Kusoge was already a trooncord split off. Anyway I know their type now and will make sure they don't get into the /v/ guild in Classic.
>>737803474Why does your steam profile look like this, madwolf?
>>737801684>conveniencethey literally designed the game with noob traps built into the core progression systems just to make more money. That isn't good game design and nostalgiafags need to kill themselves because they aren't going to be playing for more than 2-3 months in the first place.
It was like 5 months in, we had maybe 5-6 people left playing in Comfy and Madwolf went missing, so we made Kusoge after about a month of Madwolf being mia. Never had a problem with him before but he joined Kusoge on an alt called GarlVinland and then logged in when we are all offline and kicked us while talking about wanting to fuck a ferret or some shit.
>>737804043Nobody cares about your input, idiot. Paid AP/SP resets aren't going to dissuade anyone from playing, contrary to your delusions.
>>737804715Okay but that's not what I said
Between here and the official MS discord I'm getting real tired of hearing the shit takes of people that didn't play in the COT.
>Between here and the official MS discord I'm getting real tired of hearing the shit takes of people that didn't play in the COT.
>>737805621CHIBI SEX
>>737806753
Kind of want to get one of these for maple
>>737807914gay
is not real
>>737807114hnnnngggg
I like that parties get an EXP boost but the meta being playing in a party of 6 kinda sucks, sure when the game releases all the starting maps will be full for a few months but after a while you won't be able to get a party of 6 that easily
>>737812830Not actually true. It might be the most optimal for bonus exp, but not all maps are suited for 6 people. A lot of the popular maps had parties of 4, and often the 4th member would get a shit platform/partition (aka: the cuck chair).The Curse Eye tree in Ellinia is an example of this. Good map for grinding and farming meso in the closed playtest, but nobody is running a 6-player party on that shit.
Did we ever find out why Nuclassic tourists are against the game being 1:1 to original?
>>737814381Because the original game still had problems
>>737814381>bro just launch with 1 month of content and never improve or add anything new!This kind of mentality works for a candy maker not a videogame developer.
>>737814381It's fine to admit the classic game had problems. Objectively speaking, MS was a dogshit game held together by its chatroom-like gameplay and the novel aesthetic of being a cutesy, 2d platformer MMO. A lot of the issues might not have mattered to people who never got past level 40, but once you get to third and fourth jobs, the cracks got out of hand. Such as HP Washing being the absolute worst mechanic ever designed in any video game, period.I'm fine with changes to the game as long as it's reasonable. So far, the changes seem mostly good. Some numbers will obviously need further tweaks but they're trying to reduce the amount of bullshit you had in the past, like final attack gimping your build. I'm not a fan of the numbers inflation, but it's not a game ruiner. The new area looks nice and they clearly put effort into it, though I still think it's a little too nu-maple for my taste.
My new Warrior feedback.R8, H8 & B8.
>>737814774>>737814885>>737815174It didn't need any changes and got more updates in 2005-2009 than the game did in 2010-2025. So why change the formula now?
>>737815331You sound like a numaple purist.
>>737815428Anon all this tells me is you're a retard.
>>737815456Back to numaple lardass
>>737736140Im not playing it because i never got an invite
>>737815528See you at the open beta
>>737815353because in 2009 by the time big bang came out, nobody knew jack shit about the game except for the 2% of the playerbase that reached endgame. Your exposure to 4th job was ogling tiger and sushi on the website's top player rankings, you had no clue as a kid just how fucking boring it was to grind skeles for 5000 hours (usually getting leeched by a bishop) because there was nothing else to do. There was no wiki culture to look up optimal guides so your dumb ass would put points into final attack or seal because they sounded cool. Then if you somehow broke through and reached the endgame you'd be met with the crushing realization that you didn't wash and your character is now a moldy paperweight and no parties will invite you to horntail runs. 17 years later? hindsight and decades of private server experience has shown that true classic MS needs some tune ups. You can still keep it classic while fixing the glaring issues. Because if it doesn't happen, the experience will be soured by BishopStory faggots optimizing the fun out of everything.
>>737815496No, I'm just going to keep correctly labeling you a blithering idiot with no idea what you're talking about.
>>737815353>It didn't need any changesObjectively not true and you're free to go play one of the many private servers where you can engage in dogshit mechanics like hpwashing and dexless where everyone pays a wizznerd to boost them.
>start up maplelegends>ask some pros on tips for starting up>said i should make a bishop to fund a “main” class
>>737815718Yes that's the Legends way.Just wait for Classic.
>>737815718>start up maplelegendsYour first and last mistake m8.If you aren't playing 8 accounts at once you shouldn't be on that server for any longer than a month
>>737815718>just make a bishop>just run four clients so you can leech your mains>don't forget to vote daily for NX so you can afford AP resets>after you engage in this cbt for 3 weeks you can finally do your daily krexel and zakum runs>the only good drop from zakum is gen20 which sells for maybe 200mil mesos split six ways so 33m/person, you could be making 120-150mil/hr selling leech at skelesFucking Royals.
They're right you knowhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/fmpNdJ08PrM
>>737815640Nexon should really close down suggestions to prevent clueless cattle like you from giving input on things you put 0 thought into
>>737816064anon relax i already know you're retarded
which pserver to play
>>737815828Why do numaple purists just refuse to do the games mechanics and want everything changed to be easy as fuck?
>>737815624>>737815668So what I'm getting is you just want the game to be easy by removing actual mechanics from it.
>>737816104Then why your suggestion is getting downvoted, little clown?
>>737816105KaizenMShttps://kaizenms.net/
>>737816172Yes, that's exactly what was stated.Those special classes the school put you in did wonders.
>>737816229It has a positive ratio, brainlet.Looks like you're the single downvote, "weeb".
>>737816291You lost, quit coping.
The only good thing about classic is that assassins got gutted.
>>737816295Your discord raid doesn't count, this shit will be negged out of existence when more people wake up.
>>737816430Relax I already know you're an idiot.
>>737816385Is being an insufferable faggot really fun for you?
Nuclassic tourists and numaple purists really don't know what the fuck what they're talking about when it comes to Classic, do they?
>Nuclassic tourists and numaple purists really don't know what the fuck what they're talking about when it comes to Classic, do they?
>>737816449Ok, then kill yourself, sperg.>>737816463We are all laughing at you clueless zoomers in the oldfag IRC. You zoomers clearly just want your hand held.
>>737816425>sins got gutted >still top in the dps charts
>>737816589Thank you for conceding defeat anon, that was easy.Next time swallow your pride a little earlier and stop trying to pick fights with people who are clearly more intelligent than you.
>>737816632Cool so you've conceded and I won? I guess I'll accept that. Now fuck off, little autist.
>>737816721You're free to cope however you like, my unintelligent friend :)
>>737816742So you admit you're a retard?
>>737770431>>737770531What about 2Hand while having Speed Infusion from a Buccaneer in your party?
dont forget to upload your parses to https://maplelogs.com/
>>737816784If it helps ease the burden of your argument loss, you can call me whatever you like, champ.
>>737816837Your mother will die in her sleep if you ever reply to me again, kid.
>>737806753>>737807114>ENF
>>737815624good post
>>737814381classic world will never be 1:1 lil bro, you lost
>>737814381classic world will be 1:1 big bro, you won
>>737798465>>737798528>>737799265nexon slurper brown replies (not arguments)>>737798558you distinguish yourself through power, skill, fashion and game persona you autistic sperg
>>737814381because you will never be a woman.
>>737814381Nuclassic tourists are all troons, so they want to change the game like they do their body.
>>737816172HP washing is a glitch not a mechanic, you were removing points from a stat you didn't invest in
>>737818424>Nuclassic tourists are all troons, so they want to change the game like they do their body.
>>737818438And yet endgame was almost unplayable without abusing it. We don't know if they kept it in because MONEY or because they just fucked up that bad when it came to balance
>>737818481
>>737818438How many years did this """glitch""" remain in the game?
>>737818523You an idiot?
NUCLASSIC TROONS GOT BTFO BY PURIST CHADS YET AGAIN
which one we buying?
>>737818516Definitely for money reasons. I think washing was only "discovered" or at least became well known post Zakum. Zakum himself is a fair fight, any class can survive him at ~130-135 without washing, you only need to wash if you're doing degenerate ZHelm purchases at level 50. But Horntail? Completely fucked. You need, IIRC, 10.8k baseline to survive the magic attacks while wings are up. I think 13k was another benchmark for actually surviving if you got clipped by the wing's hitbox. Or maybe it was surviving the legs/tail slam, and you had to stay top if you didn't have 13k? Simply put, ranged classes aren't surviving without washing, even with Hyper Body you had trouble getting past 9-10k hp, and horntail spams dispel throughout the fight. If you weren't in position next to your HB, or if he died/got disconnected, or even if you just ate dispel into immediate attack, you were done. Hope your bishop's resurrection is off cooldown. Then we got later crap like Anego and eventually Pink Bean which did....18k? Fullscreen genesis. On top of seduce and dispel and all that good shit. And who could forget frame 1 damage reflect. Designed around forcing you to spam wheels.
fuck purists, they should add 8x exp for $200they just dont want to PAY because they are entitled manchildren
Reminder to never add Slopher to the /v/ guild if he asks. He's a discord tranny and a pinoy.
classic isn't even released yet and we already have a dedicated schizo, sweet!
>>737819672Why not just buy a lvl 200 character at that point? Imagine the time you're gonna save!
never joining a /v/ guild after the shit that happened in Comfy
>>737819938What shit? I wasn't in Comfy, I heard Madwolf just expelled every jr from Kusoge which was made later.NotAgain was pretty fun, mainly while everyone was low level together.
>>737820039>NotAgain was pretty fun, mainly while everyone was low level together.That's my experience with /v/ guilds from other MMO's. Great fun at the start, abandon after a month when only the turboautists are remaining.
>>737820039maybe it was Kusoge, I don’t remember, I just don’t want to go through constant guild collapses again and again because some schizo in power has a melty
>>737820136Is that such a problem? One of the reasons I'm interested in the /v/ guild is for that initial month. Who cares if it gets worse later.
>>737815331I don't think any of your suggestions have been well received
>>737820223I don't think it is a problem. The real reward of MMO's is the friends you make along the way.
>>737820423Maybe you should look a little harder, Slopher.
>>737820567Oof and this one got 82. Might need a few dozen more of your discordtranny pinoys to ratio this one.
>>737820186It's better to go with a more normal guild and utilize the buddylist/chat aswell. That way you have more control who you talk with and aren't stuck with certain individuals that are commonly found in 4chan guilds.
>>737820707>slopher trying to shill normalfag guilds after being exposed as a pub channel discordtranny
>>737820186The guild will be filled with troons who invite normies into it otherwise.
>>737820826>troonsIncluding yourself madwolf?
>>737820423Hello? Slopher? >>737820567 >>737820659
