So it's just looter cancer.
>>737738158>goes on sale less than 2 months after release
why do chuds hate it?
>>737738225and it's from some old series nobody cares about
and it's like this cosmetics jerk off
>>737738158how long do they have to wait before they can turn it into f2p without having to refund the early adopters?
oh well they got me to buy it because I thought it was a multiplayer fps
>>737738225nice try but lefties that aren't troons also hate bungie
what happened to the daily bitching threads?
>>737738225The game has a lot of queer adjacent designs. Making your heroes look like androgynous gay niggas from outer space is kind of repulsive. Aside from that the game doesn’t seem very good either which is why it died so quickly
>>737738936Mods are anti-/v/. One of our pass times for like 10+ years has been laughing at corposlop fail and for some reason it really bother the jannies when we do it now. I’m dreading how they’re going to behave when the next Druckmann woke slop comes out, they’ll probably 404 all the threads that aren’t strictly fan discussions and ruin any fun we can have from it
>>737738158EZ game of the year, I can't see anything being better than it, not even Mina the Hollower
Meh I accept it, I would play this if I was in the mood for a looter since it has nice aesthetics, but I need a good solid multiplayer fps.
there's no good multiplayer shooters oddly enough
>>737738960the male characters look goofy but not androgynous and not lgbt bait either, people on here were waifufagging the female characters before the game came out too.
>>737739131I played at my buddies house and the game is really weird. I ran around getting shit and never saw another human player, just robot NPCs that I could use a cooldown ability to walk past with 0 repercussions Weird game
>>737738158>So it's just looter cancer.Terminal cancer
>>737739221>Astroturfing trannies and unironic snoys were trying really hard to convince retards that this horrendous thing was attractiveFixed that for ya
>>737739405the whole aesthetic makes no sense the seeming creativity is actually creative bankruptcy
>>737739274gonna hit 4k tonightI can feel it
I guess I'll play insurgency sandstorm and rising storm 2 maybe since there's not a lot of fps multiplayer games seemingly
>bungietroons celebrate the weekend pump>then on sunday it hits record lows againEVERY TIME AHAHAHAHA
Everyone who complains about the game has 100+ hours in it including me
I'm having a blast
>>737739405what an unfortunate ass
>got platinum trophy for Marathon>3.3% of players have it>figure out that I’m about another 120 hours of grinding away from defeating the compiler bossBy some rough logic, that means that 0.2% of the player base has or will complete the Compiler fight. That and you need 300 hours of grinding. I don’t know if this boss continues into the next season or Bungie intended for people to play for 300 hours every three months but shit is crazy. I have 186 hours in Marathon.
>>737738158Every multiplayer shooter made in the last 10 years has been awful garbage for utter retards
>>737739405>pathetic, flat ass>why did this flop?!?!?!Why indeed.
>>737739978Nah they just watch streams
Just a reminder for all the 'dead game' folks, the original talking point was that it was 'dead on arrival'then dead in week 1then dead in week 2then dead in week 3then dead in week 4then dead in month 2There's people in this thread now talking about sony investor calls and shit because beleive it or not this was never another concord situation and they are having to rely on speculation about what a hypothetical sony investor might think at this stage.Not to mention, if player numbers get so dire, it will likely go free to play and linger on for ages.
looks like it's work and I'd like my gay tranny game to be more fun since they sacrificed so much realism for fun only to have it more like work but it's more like gay work now
>>737740469holy esl
>>737740503you just have mental retardation
>>737740469The fug this dude sayingCall the ambulance
>>737740070>That and you need 300 hours of grindingwhy? dont you just need a cryo key and not to suck? I've only done cryo twice but I dont see why you'd need to grind anything.
>>737738225chuds and ((financial analysts)) picked the wrong game to dogpile, all in an effort to chase the high of all the other ones that failed.Marathon didn't deserve the vitriol it got, the game is fun.
>>737741371lmfao naheven the poor trannys that actually spent money on this garbage are crying about it now.the sad reality is that its an under average game with an above average price that nobody asked for and thus nobody plays it, even the threads maiing fun of it are archiving because its just sad to come here to laugh at the poor anon that posts how many hours of his life hes spend on this every thread.its moment to shine if it ever had one, passed, now people care about well, the other stuff, pragmata looks neat for instance.
Why aren't you niggers jamming and digging in the marathons? Please buy lux we really need the money
>>737741272You need 7 Cryo keys. Three are purple, three gold, one red. Let’s take the most optimal route. Pre-made team is a must. So three people with open schedules, and they have to be decent. Keys come from major events in the map, and they won’t always spawn, 50/50 rate. Then the keys won’t always drop, let’s half it again. Then we’ll half it again because key duplicates. If we add in PvP and exfil rates of 50%, there’s a 6.75% chance you’re coming out with the Cryo key you need per match with a well made pre-made.So for those keys, we’re going to get the one we need every 10 runs or so. That’s at least 4 hours of play. THEN, we also need the loadouts to actually run every other team on the maps down, that’s 3-5k loadouts every match. 5k loadout is another 2 hours of grinding, on average.So with all that, with optimal play, you could find all 7 keys and successfully complete all vaults with maybe… 80 hours of play time. And that’s after you know what you’re doing. That’s with a pre-made team doing every one of those runs.
>>737741514>even the poor trannys that actually spent money on this garbage are crying about it now.why delude yourself, where are these people? are they the ones leaving all the positive reviews on steam?the game is hard and punishes shitters, it's not badly designed or poorly made, its too difficult for most people.
>>737741649Game sounds like booty cheeks
>>737741371it's casual tarkov for (Marathon dads). Garbo trash
>>737740282You've reposted this many times now. Ironic.
>>737741649>80 hours of play timeI was with you at the start but that sounds reasonable no? 80 hours for a final boss?
Blast status?
>>7377397616.5k right now, you could be right
>>737741748That’s 80 hour on TOP of a baseline understanding of the game. So in order to get to that grinding point, you’re going to have to put in 100 hours to understand the maps, optimal routes, where stuff spawns, how do deal with teams, etc.
>>737741748You’re not factoring in all the times you’ll lose all your gear and keys on Cryo before you even get to a vaultCurrent meta is to rush spawns and wipe out every other team so that you can explore the entire map in peaceIf you make it out of spawn, you get to experience the current combat meta of dozens of grenades being flung at you in cramped hallways every fight
>>737740282>this is alive and well and extremely steady according to maratroonslolololololol
I have marathon hate fatigue
>sony spent billions just for bungie to perform worse than an indie dev in the same genregrim
>>737742850I dontline go down, I laugh
>>737740282>it will likely go free to play and linger on for ages.No? Unless they let people host games, it will still cost money to keep online services up. If that costs more than the game is making in sales and DLC, the game is going to get shut down. did you forget how fast they pulled the plug on Concord?
>>737742862>grey zone came out two years agohuh?! how is it doing so well!?
>>737741678>its not badly designed or poorly made>cant hit 20k most days a month after launch, widely regarded as a failure, extremely unpopular outside of shill pressi dunno anon your logic doesn't logic.
>>737738225Why are non-chuds not playing it?
Reminder that this game have a 20% sales mid last week and it barely move the player count needle...
>>737743871chud means: non fartest left non redditor non tranny
>>737743883what? really? guess the price wasn't the issue
>>737744071I mean if you're not gonna buy it at $40 you're probably not gonna buy it at $32 either
>>737744251i honestly wouldn't play it if it was ftp lmao>>737744071dude are you retarded? 40 dollars or 30 dollars for a barebones tech demo with 3 maps/4 sometimes which is already in a death spiral and which is imminently going ftp or shutting down isn't gonna.move the needle lmaoit shoulda launched ftp, its too late now that everyone knows its dead
>>737740282It barely hits 20k peaks on the weekend retard lol
>>737738158terminal cyclical looter cancer yup>>737738258Maybe we should care if they bother resurrect it like halo(not combat devolved remake i mean make it like good og halo) or doom 2016 their own way ( they dont have creativity and will turn into gay destiny anyway)
>>737743976chud means faggots choosing an insult name that barely has the same power as faggot or nigger cause we re not fragile to ban the word
>>737738936No one even cares anymore, the game is so dead that it has been forgotten even by shitposters
>>737744413Learn English, Pawel
>>737741649Sounds like a godawful experience.
>>737744468ESL faggot
Turns out most people dont want to participate in a game that caters to sick peoples desires of stalking and raping other people. Most people dont get a thrill off overpowering helpless other people thats typically for mental cases. This game's currently containment for 19k men who really would love to rape if the chance presented itself.
>>737738158>bend over backwards to slow down your games for console niggers>entire playerbase is on PC anyways>gameplay still slow static and sloppedimagine what we could have instead and there's irony in the way this team didn't care about putting off potential customers with design goals but drew a line in the sand to keep the gameplay as babbified and low skill expression as possible
>>737742862>low-budget PvE extraction shooter does better than the "unforgiving" "hardcore" AAAA studio gamepsychopath bros, Sony exec friends, weren't people supposed to love PvP and getting griefed?
>>737743605It costs pennies to host an efficient dedicated server, Any cost associated is tied to managements perception of an employee maintaining the servers which takes minutes per day. To put it simply you can make a profit hosting minecraft servers for pocket change per month. Bungie has access to Sony infrastructure and deals they're getting the lowest possible rates of anybody on the planet.Marathons issue is justifying continued development when the playerbase can't even spend on anything because Bungie are trying to dump this game onto a third party so they can work on a supergame to replace Destiny.
>>737741748>80 hours for a final bossAnd the final boss is just a mob from the first game
>>737745541the PvP is you vs cheat makers from russia
its so close
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2waT9TxPU0
>>737742862I'm so torn on getting Gray Zone. Operators operating operationally innajungle sounds sweet, but I'm also not a big fun of realistic milsims, makes it look tedious.How is it if I'm a filthy casual?
>>737740282>This game is TECHNICALLY still alive, and so it was not a flop! Get a load of this faggot, Sony is just waiting to pull out the cord, maybe by the October, just a few months short of a year as to not scare investors.
>>737746117just wait for f2p.
Oh n-
lmao
it happened sub 5k, congrats lads
It happened without any intervention.
its still going
>>737746658NOOOOOO!!!
How I wish that sub 5000 players was sony's cutoff point.
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>>737746658>can’t count that it gained players the past week as well as lostSteam charttards everyone.
>>737746658wow it's such a failure
>>737744752Battle Royale is as much as people want to be raped. Seeing a week of progress go down the drain from a dozen Cryo runs will make every hormone stop and uninstall, no matter the game. I like Marathon, but I don’t really get why so many studios are hellbent of having an extraction game.
I'm having a hard time finding info, do certain cryo keys drop from certain events more often? I've done the 3 red keycard room in Outpost a lot and typically only get 1 or 3 keys, but I think one of the wardens I killed dropped the only 5 I've seen.
>>737738507Second season. But MTX is terrible and Sony is not showing confidence releasing a competing FTP extraction shooter the same year. >>737738936Many of those were started and populated by maketers, and deleted by jannies anyways. kurppahosk isn't making as many threads.Also pure steam chart tracking threads are getting deleted.
>>737739808It's barely topping 20k on the weekend peaks.>>737740282kurppahosk's best everyone.>>737742850Yet you seek out these threads.
>>737744589That's the core design phillosophy of Marathon.>>737744752Hey that's not fair, the permabottom AGPs that take theif and vandal to get their asses gaped by the 6 man rook squads are a thing too.
>Including marketing had a budget of 420 million USD>Almost all people working on Destiny 2 have been pulled off to try and save Marathon>They gave up on the first season when they saw launch numbers, everything changed is PRM "Player Retention Mechanics". Changes not to bring people in but merely try and plug the leaks, it has not worked.>Current projections put the game at peaks of 7k players by June>This is 100% deciding Bungies future for Sony>There is no possibly short of a FF14 style shutdown and release in 18 months after spending another 50 million as basically a new genre that could save the game.Its over. The game is in its walking death phase and nothing is going to save it. The numbers are simply impossible and there is no chance of success at this point.
>>737747714Wardens, marsh lockdowns and pinwheel give out keys. Least as fire as I know.
>>737748318Oh, and don't forget the 3.6 billion waste of money for "brilliant live service expertise" and absolute state of D2Both Sony and Bungie got cooked
>>737741748I'm at 100 hours and nowhere near being able to do Compiler. The 6 different keys are RNG drops and if you farm the only reliable spot it will give a random with a weight toward keys 1-3. And even if you get a gigarare key there is still the likely chance that you die to another squad when you try to use it. So far I only have 2 vaults done.
>>737746117I think the "casual" option for exshooter is road to vostokyou can always mod sptarkov enough to turn it into a semi-casual game>but i want pvpskip tarkov and rapethon, the others should be more player-friendly
Marathon doesn't need chuds like you
>>737750979Holy bike cuckThats just fucking depressing to look at desu what a sad man
>>737750016I'll check out Road to Vostok, thanks.I'm not looking for PvP, which is why Gray Zone looks enticing.
Tomorrow, at 10 AM UTC, Destiny chuds will win.
>>737752093>tomorrowbro?https://popularity.report/
>>737746117I'm only 10 hours in so far but i LOVE it.The gun autism is a big part of it, the whole "milsim" gameplay is pretty intuitive.>(am)BUSH>dont stay in the open>better to be too slow than too reckless>better too much ammo than not enoughThere's also an option to go into pve servers with the same character/stash if you feel like it.Oh also somehow the game runs decently on my shitty pc, 70-90fps with low-middle settings no framegen, compared to marath*n 50-70 everything lowest and framegen.
>>737748447they also pressed sony to cancel 80%-ready TLOU GaaS, guess they didn't want the competition, kekaroooooooooooooo
>so many good contenders for GOTY>YJK sony is gonna buy marathon the win >more companies will dedicate their own extraction slop experiences
>>737753451>>YJK sony is gonna buy marathon the winShining any more light on marathon is probably the last thing snoy wants at this point, as the game is widely mocked and, without any doubt, is a massive expenditure with little hope of recuperating the losses
>>737753537If I had any idea of bungies and sonys plans I think they are gonna release another season this December and bungie will market a bunch of paid shills again (burnt peanut, aztecross, etc) to inflate the marathon numbers and positivity again for one last effort to get attention to marathon to justify its placement in GOTY. My only hope is it remains like arc raiders where it was also cucked from the GOTY spot and only shows up under best multiplayer game
>>737739761Soooo close, it's actually 5,057!
>>737741649>7Bungles obsession with that number will be their undoing.
>>737747708>but I don’t really get why so many studios are hellbent of having an extraction game.Because they're dirt cheap to make. Make a map, make guns. Congrats, you have an extraction game.
>>737753249And the reasoning was stupid:>We can't monetize it!As if Factions in 1 wasn't insanely (well, for Sony) popular before Bungle was bought.
>>737738158worse, it's a looter that you lose everything if you die
>>737754094Not to fear; the mandatory seasonal wipe resets EVERYONE!
>>737754094Why didn't they copy that hidden item pocket from Arc? Literally one of the only good features of that entire game
>>737753708>another season this DecemberBuddy, at this rate they won't release the next season because the playercount will be so low you'll get matchmade with europeans and australians as an american
>>737755953It's not a game for faggots
>>737758131It's already happening
>>737758328good one anon kek
>>737746658>sub5kblastbros... i dont feel so good...
>>737738158Unironically GOTY but /v/ will never admit that.
>>737758682Arc raiders (a way more popular game) couldn't even fit in the GOTY category what makes you think recycled bungslop will?
>>737740282Lawbreakers lasted a year and that was considered a massive failure. Not all flops crash and burn catastrophically, it will be a slow and quiet decline for Marathon.
I actually think Marathon is generally a very good game but it's losing players because it's just fundamentally really stressful to play. Bungie must have thought that either they could create a ton of new extraction shooter fans out of their former Halo/Destiny fan base (bad idea due to player-Bungie goodwill being at an all time low after years of Destiny mismanagement) or that they could poach a lot of players from existing extraction shooters (which also seems like a bad idea, because getting players to 'quit' their favorite game for another is always a hard sell). The only other avenue is mass/casual appeal which is kinda off the table because of how stressful the gameplay loop is.In short I don't think there's really a market for it, certainly not one to justify the budget.
>>737759440They're cali devs and the nepotism runs deep.
>>737752204so destiny 2 still has 200k players while marathon has a fraction of that even if you include consoleswhat the hell is going on here D2 is probably still making tons of money on MTX too
>>737738225why do troons love it?
>>737761759You're seeing pure bungie retardation in actionA single armor set cost around 1500-2000 silver, which is 15-20$There are(more likely were) people who would spend 3 times that amount to get every class all dressed upThere's also a star wars emote bundle that cost 3700 silverBungie decided to take that money and make marathon instead
>>737740282>The original talking point was 'doa'This won't be true no matter how many times you retards try to push it. /v/'s opinion was 'it will flop but it won't be a Concord level disaster,' which was completely correct (as usual).>it will go f2PIt was f2P when they did the big playtest before launch and it lost half of the people who tried it from one day to the next. f2p won't save it.
>>737758682>GotY>#112 in daily active users (and lowering by the day)Sure, Jan.gif
>>737738225the irony is Halo and Destiny were chud central games until Bungie went out of their way to alienate them despite making up the majority of their fanbase. now the same people that claimed chuds were ruining halo and destiny are claiming they've ruined marathon by not playing it. it's satisfying knowing bungie most likely won't survive another year and will be dissolved into sony and forgotten.
>>737741649This is giving me Wildstar flashbacks, since those devs also had brain damage and thought 'Yes, let's make this incredibly complex and demanding process to play the content in our video game. Surely this will result in more sales and more popularity.'I can't only imagine how dire the internal analytics must look like for how many people completed Cryo and what percentage it is of the overall playerbase.
>>737743686It's possible Marathon coming out and flopping is why games like Hunt, Grey Zone, and Division 2 got unexpected bumps. People tried Marathon, didn't like it, but still wanted something similar and went to other games.
>>737764556Div 2 announced new updates so that helped the game. Also makes me wonder if Division 3 was one of those cancelled ubisoft games so any changes are being move to the current game
>>737760320if you're so intelligent and wise why are you on 4chan and not at bungie
>>737758131>>737758416This is the most interesting thing to me right now. When will the matchmaking get so bad that people start quitting in large numbers??SEAnons have said anything below 10k is 5-10min wait times. No way burgers will be patient enough for that, especially zoomers.
>>737764686Div3 is alive, should come out next year(s) or after the new div2 expansion
>>737765104If it was next year we would have a trailer by now. I liked Div 1 and 2 but I dunno if I can do that loot grind rodeo a 3rd time
>>737765248they're working on it for sure, they talked about it in one of div2 dev video
>>737747708Battle royale is lighthearted schoolyard fun. Battle royale doesn't make you bring your own gear or tie any inherent value to anything. You drop in at the same level as everyone else to have some rng fun times. This game you drop next to moglord69 and his two butt buddies with their red guns and gold armor they got from cryo so they can instantly rape you to death. And before cryo it was the purple shield trios of thermal snipers raping the entire map
ouch
>>737765607>here's how Hillary can still win
>>737765607very close to hitting destiny 2 numbershttps://steamdb.info/app/1085660/charts/
>>737765650>dim "sponsored 5th column" foolnigga
>>737766137That's called a 'meme' anon. Tim Pool didn't actually talk about Marathon.
>>737765607Lmao
>>737753015Decided to get it, did a few tasks, think I can get into it. I'll have to mess around with graphic settings because everything is covered in vaseline for me, makes it hard to see thugs in the distance.Gun autism indeed looks pretty robust, I'm glad I figured out how to attach this basic scope after buying it from a vendor, really helps.Also>JohnWarfare was takenCan't believe they'd do me like that, but understandable>>737766439SWTOR is unironically not half bad, also I believe they have their own launcher too.
>>737766137people like you are ruining this site
>>737767536>vaselineit's TAA
>>737767536>SWTOR is unironically not half bad, also I believe they have their own launcher too.The original content that they made is legitimate A- quality. One of my favorite RPGs and there's so much content that it's pretty much Evergreen. From what I can websearch, it does indeed have its own launcher.