.....why did it flop? Binding of Issac has twice the amount of active players.
The game is GOTY but its design kind of makes playing it an ordeal. You could spend over and hour and lose it all, Issac is a much more casual pick up and play game.
>>737740443tactics is a niche genre
>>737740443the breeding mechanic fucking sucks
Mewgenics is unpalatable. The aesthetics are grotesque. The gameplay is actually pretty decent, but the way the game is presented, with the fucking terrible dated humour, the shitty artwork, the retarded Happy Tree Friends-style bullshit, it's all completely unrecommendable. This game is for manchildren with no taste and literally noone else.
>>737740443>an indie game selling a million copies is a failure i disagree
>>737740443Fun to play it once, a chore to replay it hundred times like you would replay Issac
>>737740443Binding of Issac just requires you to dodge projectiles and shoot back. It's just Smash TV for queers.Mewgenics isn't that easy to dive into on a whim and requires you to think about turn order mechanics and inbetween setup at the house with breeding. That is enough to turn off most casualfags.
>>737740443It's a pretty well-done steak.
>>737740443mewgenics just looks like shit
>>737740443Both are ugly shit that deserve low player counts.
It takes ~120 hours to beat the game and most people are getting filtered by Act2, I've seen so many ppl complaining about Marshmallow when she's not even 1/10th as bad as some later minibosses
>>737740443Slay the Spire 2 came out like a week after Mewgenics launched and it's a superior indieslop.
>>737740443niche genretoo hardruns too long
>>737740443>flop>sold a gorillion copiesPick one
STS2 released not long afterwards, and that doesn't require 20 minutes of shitty breeding/item micromanagement between runs.
the breeding while unique and satisfying, is quite an acquired taste with how cumbersome it isthe TRPG side can be a bit slow and repetitivebut I'm glad it brings some exposure to SRPG genre
>>737744686>STS2Mixed reviews, truly a fall from grace.Not as bad as DD2 yet though.
>>737740443Mewgenics and Binding of Isaac are both gross, ugly, satanic slop
>>737745035I'm pretty sure most of the reviews are from China
Is it a roguelike, an actual strategy game, or just a shitty grindan game?TRPGs with infinite resources is easily my most hated game genre. Disgaea was my only exception but I still played those games with minimum grinding
>>737745035He will start apologizing for the devs because >The chinese are mad..thats why the game is mixed...The chinese want to have fun and we can't have fun, we need to bust our balls for a 2 hour run to the end gameDESU i don't see the difference between STS and Mewgenics when it comes to balancing. They both seem to be plagued by the same BDSM fetishists.
The power of PC exclusives.>I can now play this game that run on a Nokia 3310 with my 3000+ yuro PC!
>>737745268Like clockwork>>737745154
>>737745154Not really, I checked the negative reviews there are some tl;dr ones from the english speaking ones as well, not just reviewbombers
>>737740443>.....why did it flop? Binding of Issac has twice the amount of active players.Because it's just a bad Binding of Isaac ripoff, why would you play that when the original is miles better and cheaper instead?
act 3 sucks dicks
>>737740443boi is pure dopamine rng slop for zoomersmewgenics is his 'magnum opus' except he's a complete retarded piece of shit and only produces shitty rng gameszoom zooms do not have the patience for itHis marketing budget ran out so we don't see it shilled
Why do Indians always misspell the name as "Issac?" Learn to spell.
>>737740443Sold well enough according to Ed. That aside this is his passion project. He’d be continuing to work on it even if it had made no money.
>>737741363/thread. the in-combat interactions are fun but it's tedium on top of tedium on top of RNG, fuck that
>>737740443It's hard to play it on the whim. Doing a single run can take up an hour or so even if you speed up the animations. Also the difficulty curve in this game is fucking weird and also heavily affected by rng.It will take a few years if polish to reach the level of isaac.
>>737740443its exhausting and unrewarding great, my run was successful i get to do some awful house management / drats my run was unsuccessful i get to so some awful house management. 100s of items and it's all same-y filler shit.
>>737740443The game looks fucking ugly
>>737740443For me its the fact that I can be 2 hours into a run that had zero challenge and I was pretty much sleeping at the wheel. Then I get into a singular encounter with some creature and he just stun-locks my entire team and we lose everything. It just wasn't fun for someone who could be doing literally anything else. I want to play more but this thought stops me. I could play a dragon or some shit and dump a couple hours in and at least gave made some sort of progress
>>737748535Are you sure it's Indians? Double s is way more common than double a, so people probably just do it automatically and fail to notice before hitting submit. I think Indians are more known for bad grammar.
>>737740443>It flopped! IT FLOPPED I TELL YOU!!Calm down OP, there's another mewgenics thread on the board, go ask them nicely for help with the boss that filtererd you
>>737740443In Isaac you just run around shooting things, fun, pick up and play.Mewgenics needs you to use your brain or you WILL get owned, there's posts on the internet of people getting filtered by every area of the game, and that doesn't include the intentionally clunky breeding system where your cats start killing each other if you have too many but they'll happily pump out 5 kittens a day so you have to micromanage them. I love the game but you've got to be in the mood to play it
What even is the definition of a flop anymore? This game has an ending and has been out since early February. This isn't live service slop
>>737741363Not to mention, you can't even go:>I know I'll have to breed meta cats eventually, so I'm going to start saving my good ones nowBecause A) They age and die, b) You need to sacrifice literally hundreds of cats for upgrades and unlocks and C) you'll run out of food and space.So you have to intentionally play like shit and waste all the progress you make in the early-mid game in order to reach the point where the game will finally permit you to prepare for the end game.
>>737740443i personally dont like the animal cruelty angle im forced to engage with
>>737744240The filter is the glacial pacing of progress. Along with the disappointing breeding. I dropped it out of sheer boredom despite never losing even a single cat about halfway into act 3. Only cat I ever lost was the sacrifice to enter the throbbing domain. I shouldn't have to play a ridiculous amount of time before the game provides an adequate challenge. Unfortunately the way it was designed made "challenge" an impossibility. Too many systems to ever create an interesting scenario, just a clusterfuck of OP shit everywhere.
>>737749598I got ubercats without even trying. A good chunk of this board legitatimately is garbage at this game>less than 4% of players unlocked the final area let alone beat the creator
>>737749851>7 in all but two stats>Got uber without even trying!I mean, either you spent over a hundred hours on this shit, or you literally got a blowjob by RNG. Neither of those are skill, pajeet.
>>737749908You can get that just by playing the game. How retarded do you have to be to still be stuck with 0 stim and 3-4 stat cats by the time you beat act 2? 3 7's when there are 7 stats isn't a perfect 7. You legitimately get strong cats just by playing the game...
>>737749908>inherited 6>7 in all statsNigga can you read?
>>737740443Literally just skill issues.
>>737745035Chinese may count as human for the steam review algorithm but they definitely aren't
>>737741276This.The average 4-chapter mewgen run is over 2 hours. Its runs are too long given how brutal and bullshit it can be at times.
>>737748535This >>737748857Americans are just poorly educated.
>>737741276Pretty much. Mewgenics is way more stressful than Isaac.Also, Isaac has bit more randomness to runs, thanks to all the different bosses and room layouts, and alternate floors.
>>737740443That's not a flop at all lol specially considering they got their investment back in 3 hours after release.Also Mewgenics is in the same ballpark of daily numbers as Rebirth when it came out.Idk if they would increase or not after more DLCs.The illiterate got filtered that's for sure, and you can't just hold R like Isaac hoping for the best if you don't know how to actually play the game.
I'm not a huge Isaac fan, more so into the breach and from that perspective the gameplay is cool and I like the chaos and all of the modifiers and items but there's something about the game that is lesser than the sum of its parts. A lot of the "meta progression" just seems random and tedious, the breeding system gives you so little control (at least at the beginning of the game) that it actually ends up holding back my enjoyment of the game.
i basically havent played it since sts 2 came out. there is so much friction with the game. im at 100 hours act 3 but every time i think about playing it again i decide against it. like the first post said its an ordeal to play
>>737740443super late game is pretty dull, you either completely stomp with broken meta shit or you don't use the meta shit and get stomped instead
>>737740443it made more money than you will ever have in your life. sounds like you failed.
>>737750039>7 in all but 2I thought jeets were supposed to be smart?
>>737754385>jeets were supposed to be smartwhat gave you that idea lmaoo
>>737754313OP flopped...
>>737754385>6 str>6 dex>6 con>6 cha>calling other people stupidThe worst part is that you and your butt-buddy >>737754570 don't realize how retarded and uninformed you both sound>HE'S USING GEAR HE GOT FROM JUST PLAYING THE GAME INSTEAD OF GIVING UP AT THE SLIGHTEST INCOVENIENCE. MUST'VE GRINDED OR GOT LUCKYYou guys don't play video games.
>>737740443Too long, srpgs are boring, art looks shitty
>>7377499087 in all but 2 stats is not impressive lol
>>737740443it's a single player game that has an actual ending and takes like 120 hours to get therealready beat it so i don't play it as frequentlystill goty though
>>737755351Yeah, you can get close to that or all 7s by not playing like a retard and putting furniture in your house. Furniture you get from runs. Runs you complete by playing the game.
>>737740443Switch release when????
>>737740443Managing the cats is too much of a chore.The routes being set in stone, even at the endgame makes doing repeated runs boring.
>>737750001>get super strong mutations>have good house>7 days til pyro>cats refuse to breed>they do it like twice>they don't inherit the genese>have to make throwaway charas til I get water to even have a chance>or lose legs that ignore terrainfun death loop
>>737740443Binding of Issac requires less thinking to do a run.
all of the hype was artificial in the first place, no one ever gave a fuck about this game besides youtubers
>>737741276Yeah, I was addicted to it until I managed to beat the final boss.After that my will to get a run ready just died and I quit.Isaac doesn't give me anxiety pre-run or breeding chores. I just hit play and vibe with whatever I get.
>>737740443>into the branch for furmommies People would rather play the real thing
another game came out and showed them how its done
>>737756742You coulf've thrown a stray at pyro and extended the invasion instead of suiciding your house
>>737740443too much grinding and long runs to cover up the fact it doesn't have much going for it. the breeding is severely under baked and clashes with the class system. it has to start throwing in stuff like enemies 1 shotting cats, RNG events and fatigue because it can't be balanced in a normal way.
>>737740443I mean it did well all things considered, but it is apparent at this point that it's a truly niche type of game that probably didn't truly deserve the initial attention it got. It demands a lot from you, and will punish you severely very easily. For a game that has 2-3 hour runs, very slow and tedious progression towards the actual ending, and the extent of retroactive damage your entire save can take if you happen to fuck up a few consecutive runs late-game and lose 8-12 of your better cats, the extent of setup demanded and punishment involved is honestly just fascinating. It's not for the weakminded.I love Mewgenics to death, but I cannot stress enough that it plays a dangerous game. There is no middle ground in quality here; it is carried tremendously by its better aspects that mask a game that very fucking aggressively does not respect your time and will still sometimes say fuck you anyway just because of a bad dice roll, let alone that it's an actual fucking feature that you get bad dice rolls forced on you for doing too good in a run.
