>just lost the only Cryo Vault 06 key I had managed to get as drop in 400 hoursIt's so fucking over bros
>>737747362Lmao it'll be dead soon anyway
>>737747362Rough
>>737747408
>>737747654>hallway>lean into kit>face tank>stick forward>triggerIs this really gaming time??
>>737747362they could turn it around by making it F2P, so people wont have to pay for PS+ to play it. But knowing Sony, they won't and will just let the game die out til nobody cares anymore.
Isn't there a total wipe coming up in the near future anyway?
>>737748376You keep the subroutines from vaultsAlso Vault 6 is full of gold loot and keysIt's the second best loot spot ob game after the Compiler backroom
>>737747362This is just the same gacha style shit targeting weak betacucks with habit forming personalities easily succeptible to gambling addiction.Next run bro, to the moon, hodl.
>>737747362Kek. Meanwhile, all the random trios I load into, just leave keys behind, because noone wants to bother with cryo. Hell, even during cryo over the weekend, I did a bunch of perimeter, and nobody from the teams I ran wanted the cryo keys.
>>737747654WSTR died for this.
Why is Maratroon still being spammed? Find a new upcoming woke trashfire to spam instead with the same grammar and statements.Dumb looney troons.
>>737749004>the shitters are being filtered into their shitter lobbies.
>>7377473625k players. It's over
>>737747654This is just Destiny, but gayer.
>>737747408without people playing it really loses it's charm
>>737749104Its been a slow month, shit the grifters tried to make Pragmata an outrage culture war artefact and thats just dead space 4.
Diablo 4 has a peak of 7K on Steam btw, and thats also a $70 GaaS. Marathon will be fine. On to Hunters Gathering, culture war faggots.
>>737747362stopped playing because I triple hate their ''balancing'' aka nerf everything in a game like this it just helps all the top players and there are no more equalisersfuck em to death, I hope the studio burns - if not literally then financially
>>737749146I hate the cryo map, and every time I loaded in with a key, the shit got opened before I could get there. I swear, bungie intentionally matchmakes you with others that run the same key. I could do 20 marsh runs in a row, and nobody would open any key rooms, and the moment I load in with a key of my own, I get competition for the same room.
>>737749758I reckon there is some scripted spawns, the amount of times ive loaded in with a purple key only to get the closest spawn is beyond random chance.
>>737747654Low TTK games are so fucking boring. You skulk around the map for occasional 2 seconds of human interaction.
>>737749491>Microsoft took the most minor of hits so that means Bungie can lose everything and be okay!Friend its over. We have come to the end of our time.
Marathon is a blast!
>>737750447> goys install malware rootkits for thislmao
>>737749037WSTR died for the next best burst damage option. Wait until the next patch when Bungie nerfs grenades and other weapons. Bungie is increasing the TTK one weapon at a time
So have you realised you fell for a scam and paid for Trials of Osiris: Battle Royale yet?
>>737747362>LVL 60>1 trophy left for platinum>get to LVL 100>one month left before season endsIs it even doable? I dont usually trophy hunt, but im willing to make an exception here because the game is excellent.
>>737747654>actual marathon gameplay 90% of the time
>>737750992I find it funny when redditors cry about WSTR, which was only an issue because all the best loot is in cryo or pinwheel, which are closed off maps. Meanwhile misriah or whatever the volt shotgun is are still instakill weapons, and shit like outland or the railguns can also instakill but at 150m instead. They will manage to whine until no gun does any real damage anymore, and then they will be faced with the reality that enemy teams with purple shields are un killable and will get shat on even harder.
>>737751532Play in teams, exp prog seems way faster than solo.
>>737749491Except Diablo 4 sold millions and millions of copies launch week at full price while marathon is barely over 1
>>737752338There will always be a new meta meme after they nerf [weapon whatever] but the more they nerf the more that the good options only will become available to the hardcore players. It's beyond retarded that they are blind to this.Knife nerf pissed me off the most and I honestly think they made the game unplayable after it.
>>737752553Eeeeh, knife is at least still strong as long as you have the arachne progression. Iirc as long as your melee damage stat is above 80 its basically the same TTK on purples as before. It really only fucked over players with fewer unlocks. Which is kind of true with all the nerfs, the people who were killing lobbies with WSTRs just swapped to misriah, and nothing changed.
Oh no bungie is bad at balancing who could've seen this coming ohhhh noooo its like they proved from managing Crucible since destiny 1 they had no idea how to balance a proper pvp game oh noooooooooooooooo
>>737747654why do people praise this art style again? it's ugly as shit
>>737747362you are pretending as if people are playing this thats why you say that but you actually know that no one knows what you even say because no one plays this "game"
>>737750992>nerf the great equalizer>reddit is still dyingWho could have predicted that it was not the gun that was the issue.
>>737752724I go in with free kits, not because I love the game like that but because building a character takes fucking forever. I don't want to think about my shit, I just want to drop in, play, shoot and loot. If they nerf every basic equipment then the character stops being reliable and thus not fun to play. I am not a sweat, just some casual retard with a job. If they can't retain me then their game sucks and I go to the next best thing that doesn't.
>>737753762Do you know how to read a analogue clock
wstr nerf was a mistake, but grenade spam meta can go fuck itself
>>737753982Better than you know how to grammar
>>737749491Yes Diablo 4 sucks
>>737754048I know, they should nerf bubble shields and additionally make it a pain to come by. They should also nerf self revives. They should just nerf every useful thing or make them more rare, that's good balancing
nobody cares about your dead raped tranny game lmao
>>737754223do you really find filling your inventory with grenades and just throwing them around corners fun? grenades should be a supplement to gunfights
>>737754149>xe can't read itEmbarrassing
>>737754850I own a version of this clock. I bet you need digits and markers to read yours, cuck
>>737755043Nope I use the NESW for 12 3 6 9 so I know the timeIts 4:00 in that pic
>>737755153You sure made your point
>>737755273You're a cool guyMake sure to lock your door on rape-o-ween night
>>737747362Stats in from the weekend. In short it was bad.In more detail the 20% price drop essentially did nothing to boost player numbers and the weekly average for the end of April into May is set to push numbers below 20,000 CCU from which they may never recover. Going by previous weeks' trends the Monday drop is set to be between 3,000 and 5,000 players. We are also 3 weeks away from the Sony investor call and by that time I'm predicting with 97% certainty the CCU peaks to be just above 10,000 with daily averages around 6,500. Even if all of these remaining players bought every bit of DLC that could be bought it would never cover the costs of maintenance, let alone development. It's interesting to see that the game did not benefit in any significant way from a 20% discount. With this we can say that the general consumer audience is away of Marathon's existence and has no interest in paying for it. People tried it and didn't like it so unless there are substantial changes to the game as a whole nothing Bungie does is likely to attract players. If they make more content consistent with what's in the game they might stabilize player retention, which has dropped below my worst expectations from a month ago. It's really quite staggering to see how poorly Marathon has performed given the resources the team had. Going forward I don't expect Bungie to be shut down but I do expect layoffs.
>>737749491Diablo has it's own launcher. Battle.net actually predates Steam!
>>737749037Having near 0 ttk up close against blue shield maxe it cancer around corners and bubbles>>737752338>Meanwhile misriah or whatever the volt shotgun is are still instakill weapons, and shit like outland or the railguns can also instakill but at 150m instead. None of those instakill against blue shields
>>737749952Skill issue
>>737749491you are a retarded turdmarathon is a massive flop
>>737758010Misriah should 1 tap as long as some pellets hit the head against blue shields. And circuit breaker 1 shots purple shield enemies on full charge.
>>737761348>And circuit breaker 1 shots purple shield enemies on full charge.Man, I really wish there was a fucking shooting range so that I knew how to use that gun before going into Cryo Archive with it.
>>737761494Agreed, not having a range to test shit out is infuriating. Especially since bungie seems to be terrified of giving actual stats and not vague approximations.
>>737755489>People tried it and didn't like it so unless there are substantial changes to the game as a whole nothing Bungie does is likely to attract playersThe problem there is that in order to attract the general audience they would have to make in an entirely different game. Hardcore extraction shooters don't sell AAA numbers, Tarkov is the only exception because it started the entire genre.
>>737761348Both wrong
>>737755489>just above 10k CCU in three weeksThat seems a bit extreme, doesn't it? I don't think the 3-5k loss rate per week will maintain as the overall population shrinks. (It will keep shrinking, but as there are less people overall, there are less who will leave.) I think it'll be around 15k CCU by mid May.>the 20% sale didn't do anythingThis shouldn't surprise anyone since Marathon is just a niche game. Everyone who wanted to play bought it back at launch. Them losing half the people from the free playtest in 24 hours should have been the clearest indicator of there only being a small group of players interested in this.>It's really quite staggering to see how poorly Marathon has performed given the resources the team had.Marathon's problem has always been 'it's a perfectly fine game if you're one of the few people that love hardcore 3v3 extraction PVP games.' The game isn't shitty so much as the audience was tiny to begin with and it was insane for them to bet the company on this game doing casual gamer numbers.
>>737764267>That seems a bit extreme, doesn't it?It sounds extreme but this patterns has somehow held all the way up till now. It shows no signs of stopping.
>>737764267I though dropping below 20K CCU before June was extreme, but here we are.
>>737765602Flopathon's chart data predicted it going beneath 1k CCU by the start of July based on trends. (They keep fucking up the site and adding and removing data, so that counter isn't there anymore though.)My personal schizo prediction is there will be a player count, probably 10k, where the drop accelerates and the game enters a death spiral because nobody is going to wait to 10 minutes or longer for a match where you get raped in the first three minutes. Then, the numbers are going to plummet.
>>737765843I'm still wondering what kind of apocalyptic damage the vault wipe is going to do to the remaining population.
>>737766001That's not until June 1st, right? If these trends continue, Marathon will have CCUs of around 7.5k by then.Personally, I think it will kill the game dead and cause everyone to leave except for the hardcore players (the people who rape everyone else). Any normalfag still playing at that point will probably be surprised by the rest and say 'fuck this' when he realizes he has to do all those quests again.
>>737747408>Lowers and lowers during non-peak (10PM-1AM US) hours>Out of Region/non-US players beg Bungle to widen the matchmaking>Still lowering in peak counts even during peak hoursIt's over.
>>737747362Happened to me with my Vault 3 key
>>737764267>I think it'll be around 15k CCU by mid May.more like this week.
>>737768686or even today lmao
>>737768686Yeah, you might be right based on the trend. Last week was the big patch too, so this week doesn't have anything.I don't know if there's even more content until the reset in June when the next map comes out.
>>737769240>Last week was the big patch tooThat was 2 weeks ago. This week is 2 months since release, meaning 1 more month until season 2 and the reset.
>>737769663Oh yeah, I was confusing it with the 20% sale. The sale was last week.Is there really nothing in May? No content? What the fuck is Bungie going to do to get people to play?
>>737769941Outside of more weekly patches, probably nothing. Bungie already has a major content release schedule, so at this point in the season, it's probably best to save it for season 2 (not that I think they were ever going release anything early, anyway) and bank on that drawing in both returning and new players. Most content well get is whatever is going to replace Sponsored Dire Marsh mode.
>>737770220>probably nothingThey're losing 3k-5k players a week and are probably going to be beneath 17k peaks from here on out. If there was a time to pull the panic lever and add in content from future patches, this is it.
>>737770515Or they could just wait 1 month.
>>737770712Wait for what? The player count to hit 0?
>>737770839Wait for when they were going to release new content anyway. Also, that's not realistically going to happen.
>>737770882I'm not a lawfag, but I think they have to deliver all the content they said they would in the season plan, or they could get sued. So even if the game goes down to 1k players and matchmaking takes 20 minutes, Bungie would still have to release those future content patches until the season is done. I think it was the same for Anthem, or maybe Suicide Squad.
Why does this game in particular cause so much seething?
>>737755489>In more detail the 20% price drop essentially did nothing to boost player numbers and the weekly average for the end of April into May is set to push numbers below 20,000 CCU from which they may never recoverMoreso than raw data, I think the biggest indicator this game is destined to die is online talk.There's no buzz, there's no memes, no anticipation. There's absolutely no one thinking "I think it looks cool,but I'll wait for a sale/f2p/free weekend/friends to get it."No, no one fucking likes this game, not a single eceleb plays it anymore because they don't like it. Nobody wants Marathon to exist.
>>737771171It doesn't. It's 95% anons rubbernecking to laugh at a flop and 5% GCJ/redditors/ResetEra/shills trying to post shit like what you're posting and pretend the game isn't a flop or pretend that /v/ is mad at it.
>>737766417When did you lose it? Did you lose it in the staircase by the armory, ground floor? That might have been me
Watchable
>>737771495Nah, it was a bullshit death where we got trapped in a room because a team started doing the tranquility boss and locked us out with no clearance to flank
>>737749491Diablo 4 made over 1 billion burgerbux lil bro
>>737771171the word you are looking for is schadenfreude
>>737771031>I think they have to deliver all the content they said they would in the season planShould be easy, the roadmap is really lax. They are actually going to overdeliver since season 2 will have the duo queue on top of what's already in the roadmap.
>>737772471>duo queueI thought they already put that in?
>>737772774They put it in as a temporary "experimental queue" where it rotated through the different maps, they seem to be reworking it for something that will be permanently available.
>>737772774They ran premade duos 1 week per map (other than Cryo), and then it got replaced with sponsored. Both are experiments. For example, they've reduced the amount of teams spawning into sponsored Dire Marsh by 1 to see for it plays.
>>737772774they did, then they took it out. it'll be back for season 2>whybecause they can market it as a new feature
>>737772894>>737772947>>737773076>experimental queue>experiments>then they took it outThis reminds me a lot of the stuff the Highguard devs started doing in desperation when that game started sinking, although I think theirs was the opposite direction where it was a 5v5 queue. I think they also pulled out the 5v5 queue after a week or two. Is history repeating itself after only three months? I hope we get some out of touch social media post from a Bungie employee with the 'we all thought it was a blast..' bullshit like we did from that Highguard dev.
>>737773439In HIghguard's case, I'm pretty sure they pulled the original 3v3 queue because the couple hundred players remaining preferred playing 5v5; the less queues there are the lower the queue times are for players. Makes sense, no point respecting your original vision when you're game's gonna be dead in a few days.In Marathon's case, disabling the duo queue also helps with queue times, but that's not the real reason it's gone. Reintroducing it later in Season 2 gives them an extra feature to brag about. Season 2 needs to be seen as a massive game-changing update that resolves all of Marathon's issues.
>>737774031>Season 2 needs to be seen as a massive game-changing updateUnless there's a Destiny like PVE campaign in there, I don't think there's anything they could do to get people in. Marathon's problem isn't that its extraction mode is broken or sucks, it's that the extraction mode is really niche and only a small minority of PVP sweats will tolerate it. Unless the core gameplay mode changes, there's nothing that's going to get people back.
chatgipity gives it another 3 months at this rate. seems generous
>>737774502kek these fucking things are so hilarious
>>737747362When does your shill contact end? This is kind of pathetic.
>>737774502>SERIOUS DANGER>NEAR DEADidk why but this is really funny to me
>>737774608He could be a bro anon who secretly wants to have a marathon thread to make fun of it.
>>737747408STOP THE COUNT
>>737749491I buyed diablo 4 on bnet at launch doe
>>737774502>2k to 4k players>troubled live-service territorynigger your live-service is already six feet under in a concrete coffin at less than 10k players, especially for a greedy publisher like Snoy.
>>737776530i know. Concord was canned for less. if it continues on this path, i'll be really surprised if the game lasts another 2 months before Sony cuts the... cord
>>737776530The daily peaks aren't under 10k yet, but that could happen as early as next week.
>>737750447>can't track the guy properly even with wallsshameful
probably going to be like a 16k peak todayhilarious
shitty troon gameshitty troon studio
Ive been holding a gold 04 and red 02 Ive had since last month. From the looks of things there's no reason to go into Cryo because the fun is evaporated.
>>737749952And that's not even the main issue, the downtime after dying is at least 20 minutes, which is the main reason people complained about the TTK.
>>737777298>downtime after dying is 20 minutesWhat the hell? How? You're forced to stay in a match after you die until the rest of your team extracts or dies themselves?
>>737747362humiliation ritual
>>737747362What's the issue with this game exactly? I've watched a few videos out of curiosity, and all the issues people list for EXACTLY what Escape from Tarkov is like, very grindy and needing you to play like a job to keep up or even see most of the content
>>737777690There's social and mechanical issues. The main social issue is that Arc Raiders made it so everyone wants PvE only or wont play, even though Hunt and Tarkov never implemented that. So that's a huge blow to potential players, but the mechanical issues are that you get good loot way too quickly and because matchmaking is based on your seasonal level, you are constantly matching players with the same hours as you so the games go from seeing a variety of players below level 50 to all purples 90% of the time and matches feel stale. Not to mention due to small size of maps you are heavily incentivized to kill all teams so you can loot in peace or do your contract objectives, or else other teams will wipe you out first. Games like these should not be loot pinatas in my opinion, the powerful and rare stuff should feel rare, but everyone has like 20 gold mods for a rare shotgun you cant find in the shop
>>737771226Streamers liked it initially but all they wanted to do is stomp people with less hours invested, now that they've been facing people who grinded to their level they hate the game.
>>737776668>Concord was canned for lessIt never broke 1000 players on Steam. What the fuck do you mean?
>>737778717i meant to say like they gave it way less time to live. there's people assuming Marathon will go F2P before it disappears but i really doubt it. i also think Sony knew Marathon was going to do poorly. you can't even buy a physical copy of the game, which is a shame cause it would look nice on the shelf next to dustborn and concord
Marathon needs to be released on mobile so I can play wherever I want
Am I missing something with the bully? It seems mid when I use it but I see everyone using it in videos.
blastbros...what a time to be alive edition. I would guesstimate based on the week over week over-performance against the averages for the past week, the sale resulted into about 2500 to 3000 people checked it out and logged in at least on steam. how long they stick around is another question. arc raiders patch tomorrow, dire marsh queue ends wednesday that is all.
>>737779326It got nerfed a little bit some weeks ago but it's still the best CQC weapon for its cost and ease of access. You definitely want to upgrade the magazine and get a basic sight on it if you can, but because the two endgame maps are all close quarters fuckfest, Bully and shotguns are the go-to meta loadouts.
>>737779671I only ask because the effective DPS feels pretty low compared to say an assault rifle or double tap HBR. I primarily play destroyer too so the low magazine size isn't my favorite because of his prime.
>>737779524Keep up the good work, chartanon. You and the other chartbro are national heroes for being this meticulous about tracking data for this flop.
>>737777567No, you just get returned to the menu and have to make up a loadout again unless you just pick a freekit and become a nuisance to your team, and then the matchmaking takes forever and chances are you'll get matched with the same players as before.
>>737749491It took D4 a year to launch on Steam and they didn't let anyone who bought it on Battlenet transfer their account over to Steam.
>past 11PM CET, >13K players4+ billions well spent.
>>737751802Looks like he is having a blast.
>>737749104Don't worry, Fairgame$ releases soon. And it will be even more of a dumpster fire.
>>737780317>spend 4B so bungie can overlook your multiplayer games and make you a marathon reboot>all the multiplayer games flop on their asses and marathon only sells 1m and bleeds playersohohohoAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA
>>737777690It's basically Tarkov x Apex Legends so people complain about all the issues from both of those games, plus there's a load of people who also hate the developers because of problems with Destiny 2
>>737780523I don't see how Sony releases that game unless they have a humiliation fetish. I just don't.
>>737747362take that shit to /mg/>>564933996
>>737782332>17k peakHoly shit that's bleak.
>>737782521and thats just leftover from yesterdaytodays actual peak is probably going to be lower
>>737782601The loss rate is about 3-5k per week, or 400-800 people a day more or less.
>>737747408What the fuck when did that happen
>>737783927That was last night's low. The day's peak was 17k.
>wastes billions of dollars>kills troons of us multi-player >scams bungiefags and gamer dadsDare I say, based?
Arc raiders won
>>737747362Why won't Bungie allow Linux?
>>737784378Chuds aren't allowed to play
>>737755489If I thought this game is any appealing I would hava bought it already. But I do not, you would have to pay me for me to play it. Not even going free would help, I didnt even bother with free beta because how ugly this game is. And I think most people are like me.
>>737781686Bungie pushed to release Marathon, they were the ones paying to develop it.
>>737785247>Bungie pushed to release Marathonu wotSony made them release it in March. Bungie wanted to delay it again.
