>april 2026>i am forgottenwhat went so completely, spectacularly, horrifically wrong?
>>737749341nigger you have a whole board, it's never forgotten
>>737749341>>737749357>>>/vp/
>>737749341Only the battered housewives of VGC ever cared because it cut so much of the game while offering nothing but a suite of mediocre new megas.
It's the most fun I've had battling online since the stadium days
>>737749341What do you expect people to discuss? It's just the VGC format as its own separate application.
>>737750069>It's just the VGC format as its own separate application.except with an overwhelming majority of mons and, more crucially, items cut
>>737749481>battling online>stadium daysBeat yourself up with a metal bat please
>>737749481>havingablastposting>blatantly false havingablastpostingwhat do you get out of this?
>>737749341another dogshit nu-tendo slop, this one is gachashit and transactionshit
>>7377515821 rupoopee is deposited in their accounts for every post shilling ninslop
>Can't use my nigga Rhydon with evolite
>>737752324not true
>>737750132>WHY ISN'T EVERYTHING IN THE GAME??? I WANT TO PLAY WITH THE EXACT SAME SETS EVERY DAY EVERY SEASONkill yourself
>>737752369Solid Rock Rhyperior is better, Eviolite is mostly a noob trap and I hope it never comes back.
>>737752324>gachashityou retards just throw words out with absolutely no idea what they mean don't you?
>>737752871It's literally a gacha.
>>737752830>t. never fucking played vgc
>>737753003I know some mons like Porygon2, Magmar and even Murkrow made good use of it but 90% of Eviolite users are just Karenfags trying to win with their favorites and I hate those people.
>>737752871prove me wrongtell me what is the monetization mechanic used to recruit new mons from a list at the ranch if you don't have any mainline pokemon game to transfer mons you've caught
>>737749341long noses and silly tiny hats
>>737753378pokemon go > home > championshope this helps!
>>737749357He’s been spamming this thread on vp too trying to convince everyone Pokemon is gonna die any second
>>737749341>No mobile versionNintendo is so stupid not multi-platforming day-one.
>>737753378>from a listyou said it yourself bro. you pick from a list, so its not a gacha.
>>737753378Are you an actual fucking idiot?You get 24 quick coupons everyday.The “gacha” is incredibly limitedYou can use vp which you get even if you lose.I am sitting in 90k vp and a million quick coupons i got from playing once everyday and all I did was buy the starter pack for the extra space.You can 100% play this game completely for free, the monetization features are literally all things that are not worth it and grinding vp is literally free LITERALLY. 300 per fucking win, 100ish per loss.Every single megastone except the kalos starters and floette is available from the in game shop for vp you do not have to spend a SINGLE cent on them, the same goes for cosmetics and music. HomeIs also completely 100% free to use with the only limitation for free use is having a single box which at best makes transferring tedious. This is easily the most f2p game I have ever fucking played.No floette isn’t fucking pay to win you get floette by buying an entire ass game not paying a gacha. Stop being retarded.You have no fucking argument. None whatsoever.
>>737749357Retarded board that loves a gen so much you're a boogeyman for hating it.
>>737753771>You can 100% play this game completely for free, the monetization features are literally all things that are not worth itvery nice. now make a fourth team
>>737753886for what?
Pokemon made another great game and losers are seething. Nothing new.
>>737753915to battle with. thats what you do with teams of pokemon. youd know if you played the game instead of shilling mindless for it and getting your (mis)information from xitter
>>737749341We already had showdown
>>737753960No one cares for cashgrabs
>>737753968What is dude talking about?
>>737749341>Pokemon battle sim>in 2026>when Showdown already exists for battling autists dead on arrival. At least Colosseum and XD were full fledged games. This is just Pokemon Stadium 3 but about 25 years too late.
>>737753886What does that have to do with anything? Delete one of the teams you aren’t using and make a fourth team.
>>737754174what if im using three teams and would like to make a fourth team to also use? thats what people who play the game do. you should try it
>>737753968are you actually insinuating he needs to have a team of every single pokemon in the game or are you doing a bit
>>737754232You can only use 1 team at a time. You would know this if you played the game.
>>737754145>"Dead on arrival">Every single competitive VGC tournament will be using Champions>Wi/Wa confirmed to use Champions battle engineYou're a fucking retard
>>737754287post your rank
>>737754232You can’t use 3 teams at once. You cope and delete a team. Then remake that old team again.I have been using a single slot this entire time for doubles since I only modify my current team based on the trends I am encountering.You are not trying to argue honestly and you have mental illness. You will never win this argument.
>>737754456post yourself using 4 teams at the same time against 1 team
>>737754450>>Wi/Wa confirmed to use Champions battle enginethis didnt happenalso, being used for competitions means nothing if attendance dries up because the game is shit
>>737754450>>Every single competitive VGC tournament will be using ChampionsDo you know how few people actually go to Pokemon tournaments?
>>737754567Player numbers have been going up.
>>737754567Idk what is “few” people? 1000ish? I don’t think there would be an entire community and multiple regional tournaments going on at the same time if your assumption was even remotely true.
>>737753968> to battle with. thats what you do with teams of pokemon. youd know if you played the game instead of shilling mindless for it and getting your (mis)information from xitterI only ever you one team of cute Pokemon
>>737749341Anyone who this would appeal to is already playing showdown.
>>737754757Showdown is just something you use to practice for the actual games if you wanna test a team faster, people play for real on the actual games
They didn't even kill smogon when launching this. The only thing that would have made this game good to me is if those faggots got their gay-ass site taken down and nintendo couldn't even do that right.
>>737754865That doesn't explain the most popular showdown format not being supported at all in the actual games.Probably because showdown enjoyers are smart enough to not have bought a new pokemon game in a while.
>>7377546611000ish for a game with an install base of tens of millions is abysmal.
>>737752802No reason not to offer it. Rocky helmet is a viable item, shown in the shop button, yet not available.Restrictions should be baked into the formats not the game itself.
>>737754954>That doesn't explain the most popular showdown format not being supported at all in the actual games.So why would you frame it as “anyone interested would play on showdown” then? People interested in the actual games will play the actual game and people who want to play fan run modes will do showdown
>>737755204He just wanted to tell you that he is mad that people play Pokemon games still.
>>737755204Anyone interested in competive pokemon would already be playing on showdown. Forgot I was dealing with a retard and had to spell it out for you.
>>737755310Post yourself going to a VGC tournament and saying you want to play on Showdown.
>>737754914Imagine being a bootlicker for gamefreak of all devs
>>737755310The ranked ladder for competitive Pokemon and the irl tournaments are in the actual game, Showdown is its own thing people mostly use to play 6v6 with custom rules
>>737752802>I WANT TO PLAY WITH THE EXACT SAME SETS EVERY DAY EVERY SEASONThis is said without a hint of irony when Incineroar is auto-included yet again.
>>737755382I haven't bought a pokemon game in a decade because showdown has been superior for competitive play for at least that long.
>>737755447Concession accepted.
>>737755074in fairness, they cap tournament attendance and getting tickets is normally very difficult because there are far more people trying to get them than can actually attend.that said, the flipside of tying champions to vgc is that vgc is tied to champions. irl vgc means shit all if everyone loses interest because champions is dogshit
>>737755476So how are you enjoying champions?
>>737750132and the game is much better for it? i hope they keep rotating available mons and items, dexit complainers that they can't use their favorite shitmon are mentally ill
>>737755532The people already competing in VGC bought and (probably if they didn't gen) played every single Switch game. A game's quality is no issue to them.
>>737755565Good.
>>737755634>A game's quality is no issue to them.say what you like about swsh and sv generally but specifically the vgc ladders in them were vastly better than that of champions
>>737755408Yes, showdown is it's own thing that way more people play than GF's shit format.
>>737755602>and the game is much better for it?just say youve not played it and want to ragebait, lil bro
>>737755676I'm not talking about the ladders, I'm talking about how every single Switch game(except for BDSP) has required you to damn near 100% it in order to get key competitive Pokemon.
>>737755720Nice fanfic.
>>737755676Dog it was the same shit the only difference is they restricted items for the first season to encourage dual mega teams
>>737755602nah, it's worse>>737755758>the only difference is they they [headcannon]
No single player no care
>>737755745>SV>have to mash A through 10 hours of story once to then be able to get the covert cloak whenever you want for the rest of the games lifespan>champions>have to wait an unknown number of months or years to be able to get the covert cloak
>>737755808>headcanonBro wtf are you talking about. Every Pokemon release follows the pattern for ranked ladder>regular Pokemon regional dex only>sub legends>1 legend>2 legendsAnd resets next gen. Swsh and SV were the same
>>737755920Worlds winner didn't use that item why would you need to?
>>737755920VGC has always had time-gated content, it's just way more extreme this time.If someone is already playing every single game and every single DLC to build a team, they obviously won't let a shitty game get in the way of them playing VGC.
>>737755920Nobody else has the covert cloak either so it's not like Game Freak is putting YOU at a disadvantage, it's just a different meta
>>737755946They restricted items so they could dripfeed them out later with the rest of the content. You have too much faith in TPC's ability to balance the games or make intelligent decisions.If they cared about variety, they wouldn't have included VGC staples day 1.
>>737756014>VGC has always had time-gated content, it's just way more extreme this time.>problem has always existed, its just way worse now>this is somehow a defence of the current situation
>>737756041>game whose biggest strength is often stated to be how much freedom and room for creativity you have in teambuilding>that is stripped away by limiting options more than ever before>its ok because everyone else is having a shit time too!
Having only VGC sucks.I have nothing against VGC but if you are making a battler app at least make it universal. I get you don't give a shit about singles anymore but is it so hard to code it at least as a feature you know many would expect by default, since the games are, you know, 99% singles by design?
Smogon 6v6 ruleset is the only thing that makes Pokemon fun
>>737756087Singles is in the game doe. 3v3
>>737756087>this is THE battling game>launches without most pokemon>launches without most items>launches without all gimmicks save for one>launches with only one format for each of singles and doublesthe game was advertised as doing literally only one thing and it cant even do that
>>737756109So no reason to not include the more far more reasonable and popular 6v6?
>>7377561783v3 is more popular though. Everyone in Japan plays that.
>>7377561093v3 is ass
>>737756178>far more reasonable and popular 6v6?based on what metriceven pokemon stadium on the N64 was 3v3. it's always been 3v3 and it will always be 3v3.
>>737756213Well of course it, if you don't want ass you don't play singles.
>>737756052The games literally don't even include half of the Pokemon anymore. If cut content was a determining factor, VGC would have died half a decade ago.
>>737756254>based on what metricshowdown's millions of users?
>>737756319more like 10 users lol
>>737756319then keep playing showdown. what is the issue?
>>737756047The Pokemon in the pool have to be able to compete with megas that is why powerful staple(r) Pokemon are in
>>737756339I said Showdown not VGC
>>737756254The actual games?
>>737756390Okay, so the power level is high and will remain high because they haven't even included 50% of the total megas.
>>737756407kwab, singleskeks...
>>737756301>VGC has always had time-gated content, it's just way more extreme this time.>problem has always existed, its just way worse now>this is somehow a defence of the current situation
>>737756490Correct. Gonna cry?
>>737756102Based
>>737756629Having different rule sets with different rosters isn't a problem.
>>737752802So you can be drip fed battlepass slop
>>737756173this. unironically DoA
>>737756629Pokemon games have been getting progressively worse. If they could handle the extreme drop in quality just from moving to the Switch, they can handle another one going to Champions. VGC players have Stockholm Syndrome, and will never bite the hand that feeds them.
>>737756817The games have only gotten better though.
>>737756637I'm just calling out your hypocrisy and how you've moved the goalposts.
>>737756865Yeah on Emulator maybe because until the Shit 2. SV was a mess on S1
>>737756865I mean, I guess megas and tera are better than dynamax. So they've technically improved from 2019.They're still way worse than pre-switch gens.
>>737756938It was fine on Switch 1.
>>737756087>but is it so hard to code it at least as a feature you know many would expect by defaultWe're talking about a series that removed set battle mode and the ability to turn off battle animations because of how incompetently it's run.
>>737756971If you consider random crashes, slow loading times and dropped frames while standing still fine, power to you.
>>737757072Those happen in every game.
>>737757104lolwut
>>737756993Yeah I still don't understand what they were smoking with those changes.
I'd much rather play it than a fanfic meta that bans entire mechanics near the end of a game's lifespan.
>>737757184Yeah go enjoy the game that banned 80% of the dex, 50% of the moves, 4/5 gimmicks and 99% of items instead!
>>737756903I don’t understand how I’m being hypocritical or what goalpost I moved, I told you the games start off with rosters limited to non legendary Pokemon and it is doing that.
>>737757253Millions do.
>>737757260You claim the game has a limited roster to foster the use of new stuff, while also saying it needs to include the best stuff from previous gens.We have dexcut, they could have chosen any time in the past decade to remove Incineroar, yet it's included in every single team in every single regulation in every single gen.They put no thought into their cuts, especially for this game. It's all to bait player engagement by jingling a new set of keys in your face every couple of months.
>>737757301I was criticizing your use of bans as proof of omgon and showdown being inferior somehow, when champions is 100 times worse by the same metric.Just in case.
>>737757184If you cared, why didn't you get the reqs to vote against it?
I thought about playing it. Being a different format means you won't run into endless genies of healthy metas and their ilk, but I just don't have time for it right now, and it's a live service game so the longer I don't play the worse it is.
>>737757608You know the Genies of Healthy Meta is a VGC meme right?...Right?
>>737757412I did not say “new stuff” I said “megas” SPECIFICALLY, the Pokemon included have to be able to compete with megas, and megas compete with items for team slots so limiting the item pool serves to make it so teams can afford to have more megas. If Incin was not in it wouldn’t make the game more interesting it’d just make it so more of the game revolves around mega Charizard clicking heat wave
>>737757694Yes but the window of time of me paying attention to comp is like 2 years split between gens 5 and 6 so I don't know any other boogeymen.
>>737757795Understanable, friend.
>>737757781>I did not say “new stuff” I said “megas” SPECIFICALLYWell megas are the only new stuff this game has lmao
>>737757826>200 pokemon in the game>60 possible choices in the top 10>only 25 of them are uniqueNice "balance," VGCucks.
>>737757979damn bulbasaur isn't good who would have guessed
>>737757979>Anons when some choices are better than others
>>737758041bulbasaur ain't in the game pal
I'm undefeated. I'm 1-0 and I'll remain that way forever.
>>737757979That's because certain pokemon are just better than others and no amount of balancing will ever change that.
>>737749341I get matches instantly, trying to unironically discuss pokemon here's a pointless endeavour though
>>737758043>only 1 in 8 choices are even worth consideringNice "balance," VGCuck.
>>737757979Have you ever played a competitive game in your life?
>>737758141Bro your first several matches are bots.
>>737758323Yeah, and the good ones will have more than an eighth of the total roster be usable.But I guess the gacha pool has to be flooded with unusable shit so that you feel good about pulling something that can actually win a game.
>>737758362nyoooooooo
>>737758442Put your money where your mouth is let’s see the top cut of some games
>>737758594Why? We're talking about objective facts here.Not like you play any games, pokefag.
just hit master ball doubles lads
>>737758670>”in the good competitive games most of the roster is usable and represented at the top cut of a tournament”>like what games specifically? Can i see them?>”no”
Just looked at a CS game and all of them had AK's that doesn't sound that balanced
>>737758362Nice try. I won't battle you though.
>>737758852All of them? Even the CTs? And from the start of the game?
>>737758852>ak is the best gun in historyThat's just God's will.
>>737758923All of them.
>>737758973Oh, so you didn't actually watch anything.Typical nintendofag, you overhear people talking about real games and pretend like you know everything about them.
>>737759085CT's can pick up the AK's you know, man.
>>73775648499% of the trainers in the actual games don't have six Pokemon
>>737759143but 99% of >>(You) do.
>>737749341It literally just had a 6000 person tournament yesterday.https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/69c30ae236f5b5c303dbce1c/standings
>>737759259is he ok?
>>737759140They don't just magically get that AK on their own, they have to use a different weapon first.Even if CS had no economy and people only ever used the AK/M4 and AWP every single round, it would still be a higher percentage of used options than in Champions.
>>737759361They don't have to use any weapon, they can wait for the terrorist to die to the bomb.
>>737750274But that would hurt, seriously, you should try that yourself.
>>737759471So you're going to be close enough to the bomb that you can pick up an AK after a terrorist dies, but not close enough that you also die in the explosion?
>>737759564Yeah, especially when the terrorist missed a molly and burned their health in the process.
>>737759506People like that anon are too stupid to live. I assume since you actually agree with that anon you’re just as stupid.While you’re at it stop larping as a fucking boomer you mongrel idiot.
>>737759616Shit, that does happen a lot. You got me there.Just wait for your enemies to suicide to win.
>>737759259I remember this South Park episode
