>gives early access to streamers 10 days early>they find all the op and fun shit and spoil everything before us plebs even touch the gamecant believe i was excited for this shitfuck these devs fucking hell
>>737750989Call me when they make a new might and magic that heroes shit is really weaksauce by comparison.
>>737750989>early access>clearly still in alpha mode>ai slop>bros uhhhh give access to streamers? Might get sales boost??? Use market budget????There's a reason I'm pirating this :)
>>737750989>they find all the op and fun shit and spoil everything before us plebs even touch the gameliterally how does what a streamer do affect you in any shape or form you mentally ill fuck? do they come into your house and stop you from enjoying the game?
>watching streamers and crying about multiplayer vs randomsliterally couldn't be megoty 2026
I really only want a campaign, a bunch of random skirmishes doesn't really interest me. Overall i think it looks pretty good. Giving everything active abilities seems like it'd get tiresome, with alternate upgrades seems like it'd be a lot to pay attention to but people who are hardcore on the game will probably appreciate it
>>737750989No one put a gun to your head and forced you to watch streamers.
>>737750989Oh so that's why I saw so many videos pop up about it even before it was released in early access? Well they can go get fucked, stopped paying for new Warhammer 2 DLCs when that shit became commonplace for CA, treat me like a subpar customer, expect subpar money from me.
>>737752281or it could be because the game has had a demo up on steam for like 6 months that you can still download todaytourist retard
>>737752367I played the demo, there was no hive in it.
>>737752391there is hive in the playtest that you gained access to 10 months ago if you appliedtourist retard
>>737751537>>737751982>>737752367>>737752437Dear lord, devs (or shills), stop being so obvious, starting to go ballistic at the mere mention that a random anonymous person won't give your employer money just because you expected that slapping a well known licence's name would protect you from any criticism on your decisions is really making you look bad. It would work if the game was good but right now it's meh at best with one of the most generic artstyle you can find, I can perfectly understand the AI allegations given how generic it is.
Do you think "He" got it early?
>>737752895who said anything about buying the game? you can pirate it for all we care you mongoloid, that's not what your original argument was about and you know it you niggercattle
>>737750989Cope
>>737751695I can see how it can be overwhelming for people new to the series, but i like the fact that every unit can do something interesting.
>>737750989Giving streamers early access is hardly different from sending review copies to journalists. It's a bog standard media strategy. You are not getting the game later because someone got the game earlier.
When are we getting another normal non-hero Might and Magic 3D game again?
>>737750989Why the fuck did you watch other people play it?
So this streamer spergout is one guy spamming, right?
>>737754059It could be a handful. Streamer derangement syndrome is quite commonplace.
price?
>>737750989
Why would someone ironing out balance issues be a bad thing? A game is suppose to be balanced, if you find crazy exploitative strategies that work in every scenario then the game's bad. The goal should be to get rid of these to constantly make the player come up with new and different strategies, right?
>>737750989Who fucking cares about streamers you retarded niggercattle. Why should i care they get to play early? Is the game good is my only concern
>>737754013nobody actually likes these games
ai is going to be really important in this game. don't think most people playing this will be pvping online. the matches will take too long, probably couple hours standard. they'll either be doing custom games with friends or single player matches or campaign. if the ai is dogshit, it's gonna get boring real fast. hopefully they do a good job, because it doesn't get talked about enough.
>>737754486if they implement proper simulturns like hota online games could be really fun
It's a Russian game don't buy it nafobros
>>737754540Boughtering 10.
>>737753457I want to see you go to the market and try to buy your groceries using steam wishlists as currency. Go on, lets see how valuable they really are.
>>737754521Simultaneous turns worked pretty in the online playtest, not as good as HOTA but this was like 8 months ago so hopefully it'll be better
>>737750989Russian dev/publisher, should be avoided like the plague anyway.
Streamercucks can beta test it so long, I'll probably pick it up after all the dlcs have been released
>>737754716They make the best games and programs though, americucks can't really compete on any front
I'll just pirate it. Russians have enjoyed decades of free games so it's our turn now.
>>737754521there are simultaneous turns from recent videos i saw. the other big thing will be modding support. basic stuff like model replacement, music replacement, etc. cosmetic shit that'll be allowed in regular online matches because it's just cosmetic. proper ai modding support would also be amazing. anything the devs couldn't do themselves, a dedicated enough community could fix.
This will be the first heroes might and magic game i've played, loved the developers previous game and it's the only reason I'm interested.
>>737754716This game kills hohols. Say no more instabuy.
>>737754932Serb
>>737754716I'm always with the underdog so I shall support them.
>>737754372Those complaints come from people that want their favorite faction to give them free wins
>>737754486True. HoMM actually kind of sucks as a PvP game. A HoMM PvP match is basically a single player roguelite where the final boss is another player. It is fun, but almost all of the enjoyment comes from the PvE elements, and if those are bad, the game will be bad.
>>737754442Wrong I do.
I already found my guy
i loved HoMM3 when I was young and a few years ago I played through all the campaigns of that. The games after it look fucking ugly and I couldn't stand to look at them. This new one has weird art but it isn't that painful to look at, the units look cool at least. I'm hoping there are good campaigns and it isn't just multiplayer focused with the hope of becoming an esport or some other stupid shit.
I don't pay attention to streamers. Peak gay baby retard shit for stupid faggots.
>>737754442plebe take
>>737750989There is no shot it will be possible to talk about Olden Era on /v/ sadly. I really like most additions to mechanics and new towns.
>>737751107You reminded me I have M&M 10 on steaminstalling rn, with zero expectations
>>737757000There will certainly be a lot of shitposting by HoMM3 purists and the regular schizos, but it remains to be seen if they can drown out legit discussion. The thing is, the game is such an improvement over HoMM3 when it comes to gameplay, that shitposters just won't have much material.
>Obvious cash-in remake made at a budget>You retards lap it upIt's a worse version of a game that you could already play. That they are selling exclusively based on the popularity of that original work.Humanity is too stupid to continue. Even the most obvious sleazy bullshit is eaten up by thousands.
>>737757395show the date of the latest save on homm3 that you have
>>737756382yep. i've watched some competitive homm 3 games and while it's cool that people made something like that competitive, the format just isn't designed for pvp in general. you have 2 dudes on the opposite side of the map doing their own thing for hours on end and they finally meet up at some point and have 1 fight that decides everything and that's that. there are no smaller scale skirmishes. no back and forth clashes. the buildup takes too long compared to other pvp games, even mobas, and it all depends on a single climatic battle for the payoff which could be a huge disappointing stomp in one direction. i might give pvp a shot anyway, maybe i'm wrong, but doesn't feel that way.
>>737757395>Humanity is too stupid to continue. Even the most obvious sleazy bullshit is eaten up by thousands.
>>737750989So... just don't watch the videos?
>>737757506How did you miss the 1 hero format?
>>737751107Just plat the mod that combines M&M 6,7,8 into one game
>>737754442Trvth nuke. The audience for this kind of game is the same size as arena shooters. Non existent and only ever mentioned for gamer cred online. Nobody actually plays them
>>737753457>wish list stats are meta nowIncredible cope and marketing mechanism. This faggotry made me stop wishlisting games.
>>737750989I'm literally just not going to look at or touch this game until it is fully released.
>>737757506One additional weakness of HoMM PvP is that matchmaking / competitive ladder needs to use random maps, and those maps need to result in games that end in one sitting. Multiplayer is much more fun when you organize a playgroup to play on a handcrafted map.
>>737751669This snake is made of sex.
>>737757943agreed
>>737757568https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ykzSZYsiAQi didn't, still takes too long. and it makes the 1 battle thing even more obvious.
>>737758570I wasn't talking about OE.
>>737758097>Multiplayer is much more fun when you organize a playgroup to play on a handcrafted map.i'm honestly looking forward to playing online with my sister like i did back in the day via hotseat.
>>737758608ok. well i was.
>>737758678When we were 12 me and my friend got beaten by my female cousin on A Viking We Shall Go. How embarrassing. >>737757506>. there are no smaller scale skirmishes. no back and forth clashesA lot of WC3 PVP games are decided in one battle but nobody ever thought to call WC3 PVP bad. Anyway there are attempts to counteract this in both current H3 PVP and in Olden Era, such as a template that forces a combat every week with your current army and whoever wins the most battles wins the game.
>>737750989It looks like HoMM 3. Does it play similar tho?
>>737758996It has new mechanics
>>737758996Yeah, it's a homm game.
>>737758996Not even close.
>>737759068How doesn't it?
>>737758996I wish it looked like HOMO 3 and not clash of clans fortnite 3+ E for everyone target audience.
>>737750989>don't watch faggy streamers>don't get spoiledwow that was hard
>>737758996It's a same baseline, with more mechanics and tactics on top.
>>737758996It's HoMM3 with additional mechanics slapped on. If you know how to play HoMM3, you know how to play Olden Era.
>Hooded HorseOof
>>737757506Heroes 4 is superior in that regard. Using multiple armies is important on big maps. As is scouting the map since fog of war is a thing.
So what are the actual best modern day games like HOMM?
>>737759584HoMM 3
>>737759584olden era
>>737759493Olden Era could've been like that too, but the devs just really really wanted to bring back town portal and dimension door. Those two spells allow your main hero to be near omnipresent.
>>737759325one of the few based publishers tho
>>737750989??? Streamers and community shills are usually terrible, unobservant players and don't find shit or report anything unless someone in their chat spells it out for them and they bother to read it. That's why games (and this game will be no exception) are released with boneheaded glaring mistakes despite beta testing and content creators getting an early look.
>>737760193This and chaining are cancer. At least 5 nerfed travel spells heavily. And the gameplay was much better. What can you do since its being made by people that glaze 3 and the loudest (and most obnoxious) fanbase is from 3. Im just glad it will be on enroth and jadame which is something i didnt expect. Looking forward to all the new lore.
>>737757384Discussion was mostly fine when the demo was hot
>>737757943"indie" publishers now determine where to put their money based on wishlists due to marketing snakeoil. which means they're becoming no better than AAA in following trends
>>737760719I hope the game allows you to easily modify rulesets. Travels spells will be far less of an issue when you remove them from the game. I also want to ban shackles of war from every casual match i play. That artifact is so fucking cancerous.
>>737761154>wanting to ban shackles of waryeah wonder whyyou are the cancer
>>737750989dunno man, Grubby does so many mistakes and retarded moves lol
>>737761154Ehh i have mixed feelings. On one hand i liked to plan my moves in advance in order to take down enemy heroes durning combat. On the other facing every second turn a faggot 30/30/30/30 computer casting implo or chain and then runing with a fucking ammo cart was fucking horseshit.
>>737753231the "am i cool now /pol/" fag ?
>>737761220>>737761765It's nice to use it against ai, but against human players it can, and will result in you randomly losing the game. You can just put it on your main hero, then concentrate all your army on them, and if the opponent doesn't do the same, they lose the game. Losing because you wanted to do early exploration with your main hero, instead of sitting at home for a month is not very fun.
>>737759325Hooded Horse pretty much only publish 10/10 games like Against the Storm though.
>>737762245There is a way to see movement point used to travel a certain distance and you should always be aware where the enemy is due to no fog of war so you can expect if he comes with flying/dd. Death to being out of position rarely happens in pvp. Still heroes 3 multiplayer is absolute ass. Its only fun if you are extremely drunk with friends on hot seat.
>>737763125You are thinking of competitive PvP. I specifically mentioned wanting to ban it in casual matches. Getting jumped early happens quite easily when playing unfamiliar custom scenarios, which is the go to option for casual multiplayer. Losing your main hero on week 4 to artifact rng in a 4 player ffa game that took you a week to schedule with your friends is an extremely unpleasant experience.
>>737763529Well if you're playing with friends you can just agree not to use shackles
>>737764216It would be strictly superior to ban them, as then no one can end up receiving a dead artifact.
>>737758987>A lot of WC3 PVP games are decided in one battle but nobody ever thought to call WC3 PVP bad.i don't pay attention to modern wc3 pvp but if it was nothing but 1-2 hours of creeping neutrals with zero engages or skirmishes against other players and it was decided in 1 and only 1 fight every time, then you'd bet your ass i'd call it bad pvp too. but i highly doubt that's what happens.
>>737756775nice soulless UI, muted colors, no contrast, no art direction; even the fog of war looks like absolute shit. it's doa
>>737761590grubby is the definition of a midwit narcissist
>>737751107Wizardry was always better than M&M slop
>4 niggas in a row, hexagon meme battles editionwhat's the appeal
>>737764753Appeals to people too stupid to play actual strategy games
>>737764428You can change the fog of war to look like OG HoMM's. Also that's a demo screenshot and the colors look better now.
Idk played homm3 my entire life.Olden era looks like crap.I'll still try it on release though, but i saw dialogue options and quests and shit and i almost died of cringe
>>737761861>politics out of nowhereI know who you are.
>>737760719>What can you do since its being made by people that glaze 3 and the loudest (and most obnoxious) fanbase is from 3.Tbf HoMMV was also made by 3 fanboys
>>737765043>I saw [new thing] therefore its badplease stay in 3 and die of old age there
HoMM has always been shit
>>737765213this post is slavophobic
>>737765284Yes, correct. Next topic.
>>737750989streamers are a cancer on the gaming industry.watching influencers is so ingrained in gen z they just can't help themselves but engage with these no talent deadbeats.
>>737765183Okay grassroots shill marketer, i definitely will not buy the game now.
>>737750989>>they find all the op and fun shit and spoil everything before us plebs even touch the gameyou didn't have to watch
>>737765183>please stay in 3I think you lost the plot somewhere sir. you are supposed to shill the new product, not threaten people with a good time in the older, superior product. last warning. do the needful or else
>>737759325>hooded horse employs influencers and know how to use influencers for coveragegroundbreaking
>>737765183You're supposed to shill new thing first before trashing old thing marketer kun
They should improve the PvE aspect of the game more. Neutral mobs and creature banks need a buff. Having a chance of neutral mobs being led by some kind of hero equivalent would be cool. There needs to be more fights against opponents that have attack & defense stats and can cast spells.
>>737753457
>>737764753hexagons make it much more smarter
>>737754860>no one want to start with the top comfy HoMM1Sad
>>737765757It is the 8th most wishlisted game on steam. Don't pretend like that doesn't matter.
>>737765985i think even the people who started with that will tell you to go with 2 or 3 instead
>>737765985HoMM1 is too rough man, If it had an open source port like 2 with reworked and (actually fair) ai it would be better for everyone
>>737766152There is very little reason to start with a previous entry at this point in time
>>737765985HoMM1 is an interesting museum curio but that's about it. In a way it aged worse than Kings Bounty since HoMM2 was a clear evolution of the game whereas Quest for the Bone Staff was literally Kings Bounty but with better graphics, i.e mechanically no changes or refinements. I'm ignoring the Russian Kings Bounty games since those are completely different styles of games and made by different people.
>>7377659852 basically has everything 1 has but does it better. It's a legacy curiosity at best now. 3 already changed its design quite a bit to say nothing of what 3 has become today after all official and unofficial additions. The artstyle of 1 is wonderfully charming, of course, it's a real illustration to less-is-more.
>>737765705That is such a brilliant idea, like neutral creature stacks with themed unique heroes built around them as "boss fights".
>>737765565>Superior productYou are deluded. While i agree that art and music is in fact that, gameplay blows and every game since 4 blows it the fuck out
does it use the shitty ubisot launcher?thats all i wanna know, and if yes then im gonna put it on my ignore list.
>>737767660
>>737767728>>737767772based samethinkers
>>737767728>>737767772thank you twin anons
I kind of want to play a bit of M&M8 before OE comes out to refresh myself on the setting. But also don't want to at the same time.Are there any OP strats to go for from the start, to make the progress as ez as possible?
My snakewife Ylwari
for me it's dragon guyOn thumbnail he looks like he is smirkingBut in full view he srsd
>>737754013i wouldn't mind another dark messiah.
>>737765369>>737765565>>737765682>OH NO NO NOdon't forget the door
>>737771184I already told you im not going to buy it, you don't need to convince me anymore ransheesh
>>737770746Pick up the necromancer and the cleric from the starting island and as soon as you're done with the initial dungeon beeline for the 2 instantly available dragon recruits in Garrote Gorge and Ironsand, after that the game becomes a joke quite frankly because dragons are just OP as fuck. If you want you can skip the initial dungeon by just hopping over water to the ship while loaded on HP potions but frankly it's easier to just do it
>>737770746Dont do what he said:>>737771901You can get a great and balanced team before leaving dagger wound islands. As the starting hero i would pick dark elf, troll or minotaur for extra flavour.
>>737771114Too bad Arkane Studios is kill...
I don't know why "gamers" don't come together to boycott these studios/companies that treat non-streamers as second class citizens
>>737771901>>737772146Thanks. I'll combine these and go for dragons after a bit. Because dragons are cool.
>>737773403Because only a small minority of the population is schizophrenic
>>737773403Because I want to play the video game. Morals and consequences be damned, I'm too old for those.
>>737773403Normies don't care + it's the same shit as gaming journos getting an early copy to write "reviews", just advertisement, which has been around forever.
>>737750989fun factsIt's not called HoMM8 because ubisoft told them that they have plans for that title and recently they asked for playtesters for some new game. Requirements? Knowledge of turn based strategies and HoMM gamesAlso they said that game is in 3D because it's cheaper and faster to do it this way
>>737774143>Also they said that game is in 3D because it's cheaper and faster to do it this wayConsidering how fast they've changed some unit models after players complained, I guess that is true.
>>737750989Hello devs, I was gonna buy it but now I will pirate it. Reason?You gave special access to streamers and youtubers, and I refuse to support (You) and devs that treat the regular audience as second class citizens.
>>737774143>Ubisoft will kill HoMM for a second time before croakingebin
>>737774679>>737773403>
>>737774679Why so late again, frogposter-kun?
>>737773403>>737773942>crying over streamers>calling others "normies"holy fucking zoomerfest,
>>737750989Going to pirate because of that. Feel free to add denuvo to IT, faggot devs.
>watching ecelebsshiggy
So why does V look prettier than this?
>>737775548Because you're blind, 5 looks fucking terrible
>>737775548Remove the goggles. V looks fucking awful compared to olden
>>737774679this. based.I was gonna pirate it anyway, but now I'll pirate it extra hard.
