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>>737756596I dont care I'm just gonna wait for the chink clone. My ds4 already had touch pads I was using for pc games
>>737756596the controller is just $99I didnt want one anyways
>>737756596And? I make as much in 60 minutes of work.
>poors having a meltdown over a quality product costing more than cheap garbage that breaks easilylol
Here's hoping this takes off so other chinkcontrollers will try to ape the trackpad gimmick for less
>>737756739hey umm could you give me some money?
>>737756783I have Chinese ps2 controllers from the year 2004 that have outlived every sony & xbox controller ive ever owned even from the last Gen, only actual poor retards associate brand with quality
>>737756596>Got my ds5 sticks swapped out to TMR early this yearMaybe by the time the whole controller falls apart this one will be on discountDid they say anything about being able to easily swap the ABXY buttons for something else? Not a fan of the sovless white letters
>>737756924That's on the quality of modern parts becoming worse as the companies Sony and Microsoft buy components from put out lower quality parts. All of the big 3 use the same potentiometers in their controllers.
I'm good thanks.
>>737757068And retards still associate brand with quality. Dont forget the first steam decks had some cheap parts in them too
>>737756596>ZERO HUNDRED
>>737756901we've had trackpad gimmick controllers for decades
>ZERO HUNDRED
None of my controllers ever bokeExcept both of my DS5sWhat the fuck was Sony thinking?
>>737757256>You'll buy it again
>>737756596>ZERO HUNDRED???
yeah man whatever*sips*
>>737757186>>737757727newfags detected
Steam has become a cult, they would buy cardboard if it was steam branded nowadays. You can just use a platform without being a weirdo about it
>>737756596Barely above what an game cost, maybe lower for some deluxe versionsGaben = God
>>737757834okay so do you have an alternative controller with trackpads like that?
Playing Japanese games with a PlayStation controller just makes sense.Although I did buy two Dualsense because of the terrible battery.
>>737756596These threads really show how desperate to shitpost people are.
>>737756596Sony and Xbox both sell a 200 dollar controller without trackpads
>>737756739More like your boss makes this much from one hour of your work kek
>>737758263I grew up with only Playstation consoles (PS1, PS2) but if I need to use a controller these days I'll go for the more "xbox" layouts any day of the week. But it's probably just a preferrence and hand size thing, I just don't like symmetrical sticks I guess. I should get an alt controller for my PS5
>>737756596this is gonna be so great /v/ros and for an excellent price knowing its a Valve productthis is truly for us , gamersgaming is so back
>>737756596can't wait to buy it
>>737758474I too like Product® by Company™Going to have a blast with it!
make sure to preload your Steam account with cash, this shit is going to be sold out from organic demand day 1
>>737758696I'm ready
>>737756596>d-pad on the top leftI fucking hate Snoy controller designs so much it's unreal.
>>737758436It's insane to me that nobody gave a shit about those controllers especially the playstation one that still uses shitty sticks but hey you can easily replace them now for $20 each and they're always sold out lolBut now that valve released something it triggered the third world niggers into shitposting because they need something to do while botting CS cases, runescape, and WoW.
>>737757834t. tendie cultist happy to pay $90 for a $30-tier happy meal controller
>>737757114why does the plastic on this feels so fucking cheap though
>>737758835that is the best position for the dpad , if you switch position the dpad just feels weird
>>737758835snoy sucks but that's the one thing they got right you colossal faggot.
>>737759119placebo since you paid less.
>>737756596I'm so ready to add another controller to my collection I LOVE SPENDING MONEY ON VIDEOGAMES
>>737759268Xbone controllers will always be the best controllers you thin wristed faggot. This fucking BEAST was made for men. Now we have controllers made for toddlers and women.
I already preorder 2. Get a job poorfag.
Let me guess, you need more?
>>737759398Even if you like the girth, that d-blob was a fucking warcrime. I hated those diagonal face buttons, too. The different cap on the right stick was retarded too, but I'll at least give it credit for mogging the gaycube c-nipple. The S controller did all of that much better, in fact the d-pad was the best of the 6th gen as far as official 1st party controllers went.
why are we pretending to be surprised about the price?
>>737759397consider buying a decent mouse instead
>>737756596I love the steamdeck layout so a controller that is functionally just the steamdeck is a must for me. Not even a huge trackpad user, mostly use it for VN games that only have mouse controls
>>737759670I am not pretending, I was legitimately expecting $60. I don't keep up with overpriced 1st party slop anymore, though. Chink brands make all the good controllers now, hit way more niches, for a fraction of the price.The new Steam controller is the sole exception to this, but I'm still not gonna pay $100 for one.
>>737756596More than worth it.FUCKING LET ME BUY IT ALREADY GABEN YOU FAT OVERWEIGHT ROUND BULGING MASSIVE TOWERING SUBSTANCIAL LUMPISH INFLATED LARGE IMPOSING MOUNTAINOUS COLOSSAL PLUMP GINORMOUS HUGE MONOLITHIC WALLOPING CYCLOPEAN MEATY CORPULENT MONUMENTAL HULKING BOUNDLESS LEVIATHAN BLUBBERY HUMONGOUS VAST GIGANTESQUE OBESE IMMEASURABLE MONSTROUS VOLUMINOUS IMMENSE PUDGY ELEPHANTINE SIZABLE BROBDINGNAGIAN FLABBY HEAVY OVERSIZED CONSIDERABLE HEFTY BLOATED TUBBY BIG-BONED ROTUND GARGANTUAN WELL-FED LARDWHALE NIGGER
>>737759398can't play mhdos(the best game ever made) without using the control swap mod = shit layout
>>737759670Because it's pretty steep for what the hardware actually costs.
when does it go on sale?
Can I buy this controller and then just get the GabeCube by itself whenever it finally fucking comes outOr is the GabeCube going to be bundled with the new controller no matter what
>>737756596Hard to justify a price like this when good controller feel is so subjective. I'd like it for the track pads and grip buttons, but I really need to know how the d-pad feels.
>>737759995allegedly May 4th but the post was deleted
>>737760105buy it and then return it if its not good, Valves got a good hardware return policy.
>>737760041the little official marketing we have for the steam machine makes it sound like the controller is not included but I would expect a bundle version
>>737756596Good thing the perfect controller already exists and is less than half that price.
>>737759995one japenis site leaked that it would be available there on May 4thso I expect announcement today after steam fest (so in an hour) and sales next weekmaybe preorder today idk
Valve won
Yet another soulless controller with colourless AXBY buttons
>>737759119feels the same to me as the series xbox controller
>>737756596>99 dollarswhats the problem? i make that in less than an hour
>>737760339t.dubai homo escort
Is it gonna COME with the magnetic puck thing for wireless charging, and the USB dongle for 2.4ghz? or are they extra charges?That's really my main concern.
>>737756596are you guys poor? or just out of touch with reality?
>anons are hating the new steam controller because it's competing against the brands that anons like to suck their ballsEvery time. And shilling for free too
big yikes from me,chief.The battery life is tempting tho,maybe in the future if my cyclone 2 breaks or something
I hate touchpads just like I hate fucking smartphones and their touchscreens.Shitty gimmicky fagshit when the ps4 controller did it, still shitty gimmicky fagshit when gabe does it.
>>737760380No info yet.
>>737760217>no removable batterycompletely fumbled it, I'll wait untill they make a version where I can do that
>>737760380the puck is the 2.4ghz receiverand yes it's going to come with it
>>737759684why? i dont even use my mouse when gaming
Why is it needed if it does not support xinput and dinput, and you need to put up with steamapi
>>737756596>99 USDThat's like a year and a bit of PS Plus. Do PCfags really think that's reasonable for a controller?
>>737760560>he doesn't play real games
>>737760580For everything it offers and considering it's not designed to break so you have to buy a new one? Yes.
>>737760560because it's logishite
>>737760580>quality $99 USD controller>the alternatives are overpriced console controllers that break and 8bitdo trash
I was looking forward to this but at that price I'll just keep using a PS5 controller
>>737760642>and considering it's not designed to breaklol, you don't know that for certain.for all we know the build quality is bad
>>737760580>paying for online play
>>737760725it's paing
Then you have to use a proprietary client which is bad.Mouse and keyboard is superior anyways. I'll use controller in select 2D side scrollers and fighting/racing games but that's about it. Controller mostly sits on my desk doing nothing, even with trackpads is a subpar experience when compared to the comfort of mouse and keyboard
>>737760695It has TMR sticks so that's already a huge plus. Valve is also relatively pro-consumer and have no reason to start doing planned obsolence bullshit.
>>737760893Not my problem, Linux has hid-steam available.
>>737760930>Valve is also relatively pro-consumer and have no reason to start doing planned obsolence bullshit.Then why isn't the battery removeable?That's the one thing that bugs me about the controller.
>>737760387why can't i be both?
>>737759119delusional. feels great
>>737760380why did you all caps the COME like that
>>737760580>he pays for the internet he's already paid for
>>737759119feels the same to me as steam controller
>>737761057You can probably just unscrew the bottom, use a spudger to pry it apart and unplug the batteryGood enough in my opinion
>>737761057>Then why isn't the battery removeable? Because AA batteries are obsolete. If the rechargable battery ever craps out, it's an easy 5 minute replacement job. Taking that chance is better than having to constantly swap them out. It also seems pretty easily repairable like the 'eck and Valve will likely sell replacement parts on ifixit also like the 'eck.
>>737760431No one (well, almost no one) is hating on the controller. They're hating on the price. The fact shitendo/snoy/etc are selling their shitty controllers at even even less justified high price doesn't make me happy about the price here.
>>737761259You can still include a rechargeable battery and allow it to be removed easily. Other controllers even do this
Valve has never sold “cheap” hardware. They don’t have the economies of scale like the big console makers.
i'm still using my ds4 i got when i got the consolelittle buddy is still going strong
>>737761297>You can still include a rechargeable battery and allow it to be removed easilyNothing says this doesn't.
>100 dollars for a controller with premium features? My gameSAAR made out of cheap plastic, drifting joysticks and no back buttons only costed 30 dollars. Checkmate, steamkeks
>>737761259Technically speaking, rechargeable batteries in AA form factor exist and would do fine here.
>>737761426have you seen the back of it?the screws are recessed quite deep
is there a release date
>>737761447You'd still have to swap them out no? Or ones that can recharge directly through the controller? If so, yeah that would be nice, but it's far from a dealbreaker.
>>737760574Go to bed grandpa. Even Microsoft doesn't care about xinput anymore.
>>737761531Recharging batteries typically just means running the voltage through them in the opposite direction.
>>737756596Didn't they already make this controller in like 2014?
>>737761529bro just wait 45 minutesotherwise it's next monday
>>737756596Anon, the purpose of Steam hardware is to make your emulation and piracy more comfy.
>>737761531>Or ones that can recharge directly through the controller?those exist, some of the chink controllers use them and yes you can charge through USB-C like normal with the added benefit of easily being able to replace the battery. Valve honestly has no excuse here, they made it difficult to remove the rechargeable battery on purpose.
>>737757741GOOD MORNING SAAR!
I would've bought it if the D-Pad was good. looks like the same shitty deck one
>>737760592if you use keyboard + mouse you aren't actually gaming
You're a virgin if you buy a steam controller
>>737756596chinks mad, chinks mad, chinks mad.
>>737761702allagedly they did improve it, at least the leaked reviewer thought so. It does LOOK identical tho so I'm very skeptical about that
>>737761491There aren't any super clear photos so it's kind of hard to tell how deep they are exactly. Probably not unreasonably so. Anyone with any interest in replacing the battery will almost certainly have a screwdriver able to unscrew them. They clearly care about repairability as evidenced by the 'eck and the fact the screws are even visible and it's not glued together.
>>737761702What didn't you like about the Deck one? It's nowhere near my favorite d-pad, but I thought it was surprisingly decent after breaking it in.
>>737761586>>737761661I see. That's pretty cool. Would probably be the best option, but again, the alternative is something that takes 5 minutes that you might have to do once or twice a decade, so it's not a big deal.
>>737761810Even if they are easier to remove than it looks (the ones in the handles look quite deep), the fact you need to remove 7 screws and remove the backplate with care (since there's back buttons obviously), already makes it a more difficult repair job than it needed to be. I cannot think of a single reason for them to not include an easily removeable battery compartment in case you want to replace the lithium ion battery yourself. Valve is normally pro-consumer for repairs so this feels like a huge oversight to me.
>>737761761>cumskins mad cumskins mad cumskins mad
>>737762006the fuck is a cumskin?
>>737761964>the fact you need to remove 7 screws and remove the backplate with care (since there's back buttons obviously), already makes it a more difficult repair job than it needed to be.Fair, but I don't think it's that big of a deal. It takes 5 minutes and you have to do it maybe once or twice a decade. At that point there's not much of a different.>I cannot think of a single reason for them to not include an easily removeable battery compartment in case you want to replace the lithium ion battery yourself.Maybe it would take up more space and they didn't want to make this thicker than it needed to be? At this scale, even a couple millimiters has a big effect on ergonomics.
>>737756596Steamies have been on full damage control since that price leak.They've been lashing out hard against consoles and stuff. What a bunch of toddlers.
>>737761534I'm glad for you if you have all your games on ыteam, if not, then be prepared for trouble.
>>737756596>100 USD >releasing it only in japan first the absolute fuck is valve doing, are they trying to make it flop
>>737762057>yt cumskin acting dumb
>>737756596Pricing that mindbreaks the Snoy. See when a PC gamer makes a purchase, it's considered a long term investment to last for 5-8 years+. The Snoy on the otherhand buys a $200 controller that barely lasts 4 years because it breaks it because Snoy releases the PSCurrentNumber+1 and the old hardware cases to function. It's fascinating to see their insane response.
>>737762194>then be prepared for trouble.Ah yes, clicking the add to Steam button in the bottom left. So much trouble. Just terrible.
Can someone with above room temp iq please explain why track pads on a controller isn't some gimmick meme being sold to gullible consoomers?Does it actually improve gameplay?
>>737762194I'm on Linux anon. This thing already has a driver in the kernel before even being released. I don't need to hear complaints from second-class citizens.
>>737762194>ыteamwhat the fuck???
>>737762170>Fair, but I don't think it's that big of a deal.Honestly it depends how those back buttons are mounted inside the controller, I can see it being fiddly as fuck if you pop off the backplate and the button casings come loose. I just don't get why they didn't design a battery compartment. Guess I'll have to wait for teardowns to find out.
>>737756596Do you people really game on your excel/porn machine? Thought we were just memeing
>>737762006>>737762057its and indian nigger trying to glaze up chinks now since they aren't white but negroes.
>>737762219>im gonna insult someone by throwing random words at him
>>737762296>>737762275Just google how to turn on the gyroscope for emulators in the steam deck, and you will understand.>linuxAnd this does not depend on the operating system, it depends on a layer called steam.
>>737762204>releasing it only in japan firstBased on what?
>>737762194>>737762346classic case of Russian Orks/Ukrainian Uruks fucking up their psyop of trying to blend in.
>>737762406but how is cumskin for brown people? cum is white/clear
>>737762482>it depends on a layer called steam.Without steam running it'll use the kernel driver which exposes it as a standard gamepad like any other.
>>737762295>Does it actually improve gameplay?Yes. They're very close to mouse for aiming and can be used as touch menus with up to 16 virtual buttons for games that have a lot of secondary actions that don't need button tier reliability.
>>737762542Are you being tarded on purpose? I'm calling the person using the cumskin insult an indian since that's their lingo, you can spot an Indian poster by the way they assault whites constantly with made up words and phrases.
>>737762483
>>737762295sticks are fucking terrible for a lot of genres. Any game with 3d aiming or a cursor will always control better with track pads.A good example is any 3rd person shooter that also has vehicles. If you pick MKB you lose movement precision but you get better aiming, but then controlling vehicles feels like shit. If you pick a standard controller you get good movement and vehicles but aiming sucks dick now. The steam controller can handle a game like that without those issues.Then you can also use the steam controller for games that are normally only designed to be playable with mkb.
>>737762660im just slow , brodont hate me
>>737762717where does this say it'lll ONLY launch in japan at that date?
>>737762639No, without steam it is not even defined as a controller, steam serves as an xinput emulator, without steam it is just a set of hardware that the game will not understand.
How much did you think it was going to cost? Is the functionality worth the cost?
>>737761713True and you actually should be naked and have a dildo in your ass or you aren't actually gaming
>>737762360>it depends how those back buttons are mounted inside the controller, I can see it being fiddly as fuck if you pop off the backplate and the button casings come loose.That's a good point, but I haven't heard of that being an issue on the 'eck, and they'll probably use a similar mechanism instead of reinventing the wheel.>I just don't get why they didn't design a battery compartment.Maybe thickness like I said. Could also be that they thought the difference between some screws and a dedicated battery compartment wasn't big enough to bother for something that'll only be used once or twice a decade. Or maybe a compartment would add an extra point of failure with weak plastic clips. All just guesses though. No clue in reality.In any case, I don't think there's a need to worry. Valve seems to value repairability and I don't see them doing a heel turn for no reason.
>>737762760Really good post, and excuse my retardation but aren't the track pads too small for aiming?Is this one of those "you have to try it to understand" scenerios?
>>737762923>steamOSNo shit it won't do that, the entire thing is designed around Steam and the Steam Deck specifically needs to act as mouse and keyboard without Steam because otherwise you'd have no input on the desktop without plugging shit in. Use a normal distro with the latest kernel if you wanna try it.
>>737762760>not switching between MK and a wheel controller like a true G.ngmi bruh.
>>737763035NTA>aren't the track pads too small for aimingSurprisingly, no. Your thumbs are more precise than you'd think.>Is this one of those "you have to try it to understand" scenerios?Yeah basically. If you give it an honest chance, it'll click and then you won't want to go back.
>going to buy a dock and attaching my steam deck to the TV and playing from bed with my steam controllerI just invented the Nintendo Switch
>>737763032The 'eck's battery is a PITA to replace but that's mostly because it's basically glued in, its backplate itself is easy to remove at least. Please for the love of god valve don't glue the battery pack inside the steam controller.>Maybe thickness like I saidI would honestly take having a thick bump on the back if it meant the battery was easy to remove for repairs. Note like my hand will be on the back center of the controller anyway.
>>737762967nobody gives a shit about you, your struggles or opinions, rope, perma-tranny nigger, not your hugbox, not your personal army, not your environment. waste of sperm and air. fuck off trying to make 4chan into an even more controlled place permanently.
>>737762869>timing in the west will be different Please, learn to read next time I beg of you
>>737763352This thread is not about me. I was simply asking a question. Bitching and gripes disregarded. Order up.
>>737763361>>timing in the west will be differentwhere did they pull that from? their ass?
>>737763286>Please for the love of god valve don't glue the battery pack inside the steam controller. Yeah that would be retarded.>I would honestly take having a thick bump on the back if it meant the battery was easy to remove for repairs.Yeah I wouldn't really mind either. Though I also don't care about having to unscrew. Both are easy enough. That might mess with the puck depending on the internal layout though. Or possibly some other reason.
>>737759670I always thought official first party console controllers were artificially priced since my King Kong 2 was 20 dollars cheaper than the Switch 1&2 controller while having the same and more features of those. I was under the impression Valve could put more features than everyone else and keep it at 80 dollars. Might buy it anyways though because I want another controller for my Steam Deck that has feature parity as well as being able to use the Steam Deck Controller on my main PC.
>>737763187
10 minutes
>>737763361>>timing in the west will be differentCould just refer to timezones. Or it could release earlier through Steam.
>>737763607the touchpads cost fucktons of money. It was never in any universe going to be less than $100.
It's time to IP gatekeep the poors. That will include my part of the world but I'll sacrifice myself.
>>737756596So when Sony sells a shit ass pro gamepad with the main feature that it keeps using garbage sticks that break down with use, but you can replace them easier, except Sony wont stock enough of the replacement sticks, it's okay?
These past 5 minutes have been worse than the past 5 months, and there's still 5 more to go. I NEED IT NOW
It has all the same features as the Playstation or Xbox Elite controllers at half the price.You really can't spin this as a negative.
>>737763993>all the same features as the Playstation or Xbox Elite controllersIt has more.
>>737759020People evidently need to take any and every chance they get to try to shit on Valve, no matter what anyone else in the same industry does, for some inexplicable reason
>>737763993If you haven't noticed, all anti-steam controller fags are paid shills for 3rd party sloptrollers like 8bitdo and gamesir. They saw an opportunity to market theirs for poorfags on 4chan and x
>>737763427rope ordered around your neck, die off waste of space, nonce, only reason you need an username to be used here is because you diddled and its on a record bitch.
>>737757741>Gamesirs
>>737763993It has better build quality and most importantly, sticks that don't start drifting and grind into plastic dust
IT HAS THE RELEASE DATE ON THE SEARCH APGE MAY 4
>>737764142>Console peasants forced to inhale microplastics while they play vidya.It's all starting to make sense.
REALthe rest is still coming soon...
>>737756596>symmetrical analogue sticksgarbage
>>737763993>he doesnt use a $20 used Madkatz controllerFucking 1%.
>>737763993Okay but to be fair those controllers are absolute scams.
>>737759670just turdie seething anon, move along
confirmed $99
>>737756924You are 100% full of shit and likely were not even alive during the PS2. The third-party hardware was at such a shit level that you would be lucky if a controller lasted a year. It was so bad that it is the reason many people my age only buy Microsoft or Sony controllers.
>>737756596Wasn't it already leaked it was $100?
>>737762204>>737762717>>737763361and now it's comfirmed May 4theverywhere. Kindly kill yourself
It's up.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfr4QN1Hvhs
>>737756739What job do you have that has a $100 hourly wage?
>>737764420>>737764367why can't I find it on steam, is it only for some regions?
>>737764536idk about adding to cart but the release date is something you can see in wishlist and searchalso picrek just got updated
>>737764536You can't buy it yet.
>>737756596It depends entirely if it lasts to me. I'd rather use a 100 dollar peripheral for ten years than buy a new, cheaper peripheral yearly.
>>737764420The fuck you can already order it??? Why doesn't it give me that option?
>>737764116>posting nonsenseOrder up for 72.https://youtu.be/37aHq3WDe-w
>>737764634I think that one's a troll
>>737764634You can add it to your cart through SteamDB but trying to checkout goes to the front page.
>>737762391People don't game on the most powerful gaming machines with the looking OLED monitors? You're just fucking with me aren't you?
>99 YUROSfuck valve stupid american pigs
>>737762295Yes it actually does. Right track pad is simply better than a right stick in all applications aside from twin stick shooters. FPS aiming, cursor movement, basic 3rd person 3d camera movement, analog thrust modulation, etc it's just much nicer and more accurate feeling for all these applications. Left trackpad is definitely not a good replacement for left stick imo, but it's great for dumping a bunch of extra inputs like 1 - 0 keys for weapons or menu fuckery onto a radial (or other options based on preference).
>>737763993Yeah, the anti-shilling seems highly inorganic, but people are retarded nowadays so who knows. The controller has too many features I'd never make use of so it isn't for me, but it very clearly is a pretty good deal for what you get.All I need is a controller with quiet buttons, gyro, and analog triggers. I don't need mode-switching buttons, touchpads, lights, etc.
>>737756596IT'S A FUCKING BRICK.
>>737764704And $150 Canadian. Brutal.
>>737756739>And? I make as much in 60 minutes of work.Same>>737764523>What job do you have that has a $100 hourly wage?None, he's going to be on salary like me, but it's $100 hourly equivalent. I know it seems like an impossible amount depending on how young you are, but it's not even that much lol
>>737764662cry more bitch you a tranny pedo.
>>737764420>$99HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Gabe won.
>>737764668wait no it's realNOWWHERE IS THE FAGGOT THAT WAS SAYING IT'S GOING TO BE MORE IN EUROS HUH?Telling me he'll screenshot my post and clown on me, little FAGGOT
RELEASE THE FRAME YOU FATFUCK
>>737756596kek and it's probably worse than a Dualsense.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/group/45479024/view/508485755865137686?l=englishhttps://store.steampowered.com/news/group/45479024/view/508485755865137686?l=englishhttps://store.steampowered.com/news/group/45479024/view/508485755865137686?l=english
Valve just blamed Trump for the price lmao.
>STEAM HAS TO BE RUNNING TO USE IT AS A CONTROLLERCANNOT BE USED TO PLAY GAMES UNLESS YOU LAUNCH THROUGH STEAMLMAO
>>737764704Stop being a poor nigger. Well you can only probably change one of those two things, which is it going to be nigger? Going to work to get some steam bucks or not? Instead of bumming on government funds? Its literally achievable on minimum wagie job just saving.
>>737765035>>STEAM HAS TO BE RUNNING TO USE IT AS A CONTROLLERkek what the fuck is this shit? jesus christ. just provide a proper HID complaint gamepad fallback at least.
>>737764951It is more in euro because of exchange rates. 100 euro is $117.
>>737765035No shit? You actual retard. It's called steam controller
>>737764883I'm not that. Too old to be one. You dont know me. You never will.Order up.
>>737765031Trump Derangement Syndrome is a serious mental illness only suffered by Antifa leftists, please shoot yourself before you harm others. I'm considerate of wellbeing of other human beings.
>>737765085They do on Linux
>>737765035Chat, is this real?
>>737765048are you retarded? The complaint is because it costs more for no reason
>>737758696Good idea.
>>737764826Shit I just realized it's going to end up higher with bullshit Canadian taxes. Basically $170.00. I was prepared to drop a little over 100 bucks for it but this is idiotic.
>>737765026unc just got ratio'd hard lmao
>>737765103>my chinky controller is buggy mess that depends on userspace binaries to set it up or it goes in a boot loop>this is totally okfuck off, lmao.both Windows and Linux have working dualshock, dualsense, xinput and dinput drivers.
>>737765087What I said to the FAGGOT is that the tax would be dealt with by the conversion, so it would go from $99 to 99€. He claimed it would go above 100€ because of it.I was right.
>>737765141https://youtu.be/wfr4QN1Hvhs?t=1038
>>737765121kek based
>>737765137so you don't need steam input? good. I always disable that shit and refund games that don't work without it.
>>737765026I'm getting tired of Valve's lack of communication. At least confirm the machine and frame are still delayed.
>>737765143there's also gonna be a chunky 25% vat on that so they'd still make less per buyer from europeans
>>737765168What in the fuck are you talking aboutIt's a Steam controller.SteamIt's for steamDon't buy it?
>>737764519>TMR sticks work by utilizing quantum physics
>>737765204kwab holy shit.
£85? lmfao yeah im good gaben you nigger
>>737765085Blame Microsoft for xinput being a piece of shit standard. Can't even take gyro input and analog triggers simultaneously.
>>737765035II said it above >>737760574>>737762923
>>737765035>>737765204>CANNOT BE USED TO PLAY GAMES UNLESS YOU LAUNCH THROUGH STEAM>CANT USE KEYBOARD WITHOUT STEAMLMFAO NO FUCKING WAY HAHAHA
>>737765302>gyro input and analog triggers simultaneously.wtf chat is this real?glad I have a Dualsense(tm) instead. too bad first party SNOY games literally break if I buy the steam version since I unload all Valve preloads (incl Steam Input).
>>737765216>so you don't need steam inputIt is necessary, without it controller does not work.
>>737758696>scam CS2 kids>sell their shit on community market>buy the controller
>>737765374>It is necessary, without it controller does not work.ya what the fuck? just upstream a working driver in Linux then. leave hacky userland shitcode to winshit.
>>737765216You will need steam to configure it of course. But without steam it will either be a standard gamepad or mouse and keyboard with a default scheme depending on lizard mode being active or not.>>737765374nonsense
>>737765161not as hard as the yunyun devs and trannylators that they had to resort to banning speech (and getting steam staff to moderate discussions) they didn't like and the whole forum is all about people not liking the localization direction for English and the fact they admit their discord got raided by antis lmao its funny. That's what I call getting ratio'd and crying in a corner.
>>737765204>>737765035ESL or bad faith actor? The only thing that won't work with steam closed is the steam's onscreen keyboard.Like, of course it won't work. Are you retarded?
Why is /v/ FUD central? Who is paying all these posters?
Apologize.
>>737765470oops, didn't capture subs
>>737765204I can't stomach watching this fat greasy grifter. I doubt that will last for long after regular consumers start getting these since it'll cause PR backlash. I'd expect they to put out drivers for outside Steam use a little later. Still, even if they try to enforce Steam use for the controller, they won't be able to. Some random autist will release their own fix.
>>737765265Quantum just means that its the minutia detail or the "micro" of physics where as regular physics you can witness is the macro.
>>737765547>I can't stomach watching this fat greasy grifter.Calm down, Linus.
>>737765026gripsense still seems like a gimmick that I'll immediately disable, not sold on the trackpads either, the rest looks good but maybe not 99 bucks good
>>737765492let us see Tim Sweeney's controller.
>>737765470>zoomer who cant watch for more than 10 seconds.
>>737756596https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamcontrollerAvailable for purchase May 4th, 10AM PacificSteam Controller$99 Magnetic thumbsticks (TMR) Full set of inputs to play your whole Steam library 4x haptic motors for high definition rumble 8.39 Wh battery; 35+ hours of gameplay on a single charge Steam Controller Puck (USB cable included) enables plug-and-play low-latency wireless connection & easy magnetic charging
>>737765532You can always add a non-steam game to steam library and operate the game this way, this applies to emulators too.
>>737765643>wanting to use the Steam clientit's pure AIDS. idk why anyone would bother. pretty much the only thing it does well is Pressure Vessel for security and it only works if you use the unofficial flatpak version of steam, lel.
>>737765483Sony, nintendo, and microsoft
>>737756596>£85>When it should cost $99 (£73)What the fuck
>>737765470Retard
>valve invents their way into <1% of a hardware marketshare againok???
>>737765698>flatpaktranny
>>737765737every non-USA customer gets fucked here, i feel you bongbro
>85 bongsI'll wait for sales
>>737765737you bongs have no VAT?
>>737765643>emulatorsNot all games work this way, plus emulators require a worckaround like CemU Hook that will work with the gyroscope.
>>737765576Can't stand that squeaky mouse-voiced grifter either. Still cannot believe he's not a literal faggot because he really looks the part.
>>737765737tax you retarded mongoloid
>>737765792>running games without any userspace isolation.go back to windows, cuck.
>>737765739The timestamp given by that anon is 20 seconds away from this line. Blame that retard
>>737765737
>>737765814Cemuhook hasn't been necessary for ages. Cemu and Citra can both do native gyro via SDL now, probably others as well.
>>737759397Christ, clean your keyboard.
>>737765827>zoomer can't watch something for longer than 5 secondstiktok has ruined your brain
>>737765737VAT is 20% mongoloid.
>>737765902Give out the right timestamp next time, retarded nigger.
>>737765867Steam controller does not have a native gyroscope; it only emulates sticks or mice.
>>737765807>>737765819>>737765905Don't yanks have no tax on purchase? Don't they have to report it themselves on their tax documents or is that not how that works?
>>737765825>>737765698It must be exhausting giving a shit about things that don't matter and refusing to use the most convenient and user-friendly service in PC gaming out of some vindictive principle.
>>737764826Yeah, hard passSo what’s better the 8bitdo or the gamsaaaaar?
>>737756783>over a quality product
>>737765941lil gup finna have a meltie bro on god no kap fr fr
>>737765964Gamesir takes the edge these days.
>>737765961Sales taxes vary by state.
>>737765867The steam controller requires to be run with steam so that's why you need to add the emulator to the client because it will then understand to work within that space as well.
>>737765963you're a delusional fucking retard. game companies have shipped literal adware in their games before and literal botnets are constructed from pirate cucks running unisolated games. if you want to be a bitch, then keep being a bitch. I won't because I value my computing privacy.
>>737765998thanks for confirming that you are a nigger with your nigger speak, nigger
>>737765961amerilards have different tax per-district, so they never include it in the price itself
>>737765948Why are /v/tards so incredibly good at talking out their asses?No, you can address the Steam Deck's (and thus Controller's) controls natively just fine via evdev on Linux for example, which SDL happily does, exposing their full functionality.
>>737757819>n-n-newfagyou are a retard
This shit is pay2winIf you buy this you didnt really kill me in game. I lost to the controller.
>>737765237he wont buy it and his reason for not buying it is completely valid.
>>737766115why would you use a controller in a shooter?
>>737766115>Nimi and Arbitor IanYou're not so bad, anon.
>>737765961each state has their own sales tax, but not vat
>>737766076>Steam Deck'sFor the gyroscope you need workaround https://github.com/kmicki/SteamDeckGyroDSU
>>737766012>>737766049>>737766157Ah so they'll all end up paying more than $99 for it?That's no so bad then
I bought the original for $5 brand new. This is a scam.
>>737766217trvthnvke
>>737765905>Bongs pay 20% sales tax Wtf lol how the fuck do you guys afford anything?
>>737766115>xbone wired is slower than steam controller wirelessembarrassing
We used to live in a world where controllers never went past $30
>>737766047What I'm saying is that level of paranoia and angst must seriously be exhausting. Better not post on 4chan, the glowies will build a profile based on your posting style even if you are hiding behind 10 proxies.
>>737766260the difference is so small it'd be imperceptible in real life
>>737766260DS4 and DualSense are faster wireless than wired, because wireless they're 1000 Hz polling rate, which makes them some of the fastest controllers you can get on PC.Ironically, PS4 and PS5 has higher input latency compared to other consoles
>>737756739i want one, come on anon be a pal
>>737766115>posts their google account profile image...kek. this guy's getting doxxed and banned by some greedy kike with an axe to grind.
>>737764840D'umm, d'uhh... Uncs? My boss only pays me $33 an hour and I'm 30. Food and car and rent and credit card leave me with $3 an hour to spend an I don't wanna spend 66 hours' (1 work week) wages on a controller... but i will if u say it only counts as 3 hours haha!
>>737766217if you have enough money in your steam wallet you can get it for free.If you can't get the steam controller for free then it's skill issue
>>737756596What's the price of an Xbox or PS controller? I haven't bought one in like 15 years.
>>737765470it probably functions only as some generic controller layoutwhich isn't surprising, steam is literally the driver for the controller. of course you need it running.it's the same with the 'eck and the original steam controller
>>737766115>mommy asmr
>>737756596yes yes Gaben well done, however
>>737766115Wew, I thought 250 Hz polling rate was going to be shit, but it's actually fast with Puck.35 hours battery time on top of that.
>>737766186No, you don't. That' program would only be needed if you have some software that supports cemuhook but not SDL gyro. Maybe like an old version of Cemu.You can test this yourself, go into desktop mode, close Steam and launch a program that uses the gyro via SDL. I tried Ironwail, since it's easily available via the LibreQuake Flatpak. Works just fine and is detected as "Steam Deck Controller".
>>737766390Don't need a controller. I use the PS5 controller for modern games that support its features, a PS4 controller with the back button attachment for games that need a back button, and a PS3 controller for platformers and everything else. Simple as.
>>737766332>it's ok that I execute arbitrary code from redshell.dll which may or may not read sensitive documents or all my passwords in chromeit's not the same and you know it, retard.
>>737766193Not all. My state has no sales tax.
>>737766384Maybe you should learn to pay off your debt before buying luxury products
>>737766462The gamecube controller is terrible thoughbeit
>>737766115I can't believe I've been using an xbox one controller (wired) this entire time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a55UIaiTE-A
>>737759884What will you do with your life after it becomes available later today?
>>737766654It will only be available for purchase on may 4th
>>737766654
>>737766646I would have sex with the woman doing the unboxing
>>737766115>those bluetooth numbersgrim. SNOY keeps winning I guess.
dont people have millions of dollars in their steam wallet from like 1 csgo skin?what im saying is: buy me one
I boughted Vader 4 Pro a year ago for 60 Euro, it has more than a man needs, if you need more - you're 99,(9)% a tranny.
>>737765850Nice unc facebook image, tranny. BTW that's literally a ripoff of an anti-Biden meme, once again proving libsharts can't meme.
>>737766646why do game controllers require firmware updates nowadays?
>>737756596Assuming the build quality is good, that's a great price.
>>737766646>Steam logo doesn't light up when onruined
>>737766809because they can.
>>737756596The ergonomics look shit, and I have big hands
Does it have onboard memory for profiles and shit, or is it all gonna be tied to profiles on the device they're tethered to?
>>737766809because there's more to any controller than just its physical hardware
>>737766878such as?
>>737766780if third party controller shitters like you were happy with the controller you already had, why would you even be in this thread?
>>737766514It's as easy as not pirating games. Your info is guaranteed already leaked in the countless data breaches that are constantly happening anyway.
>>737766078Holy new
>>737766549it's not me its my gf haha. but ill get a 100 an hour job soon, right uncs? like u said aha! six figures is poor nigger change hahaha!
>>737766528How do they fix the roads and shit like that?
>>737764523hooker.
>>737756596$99 is not that expensive for a controller.
>>737767002There are more taxes than sales tax. They'll fuck you another way.
Neat I had no idea I could add Steam Hardware directly to my cart prior to launch. No wonder getting the Index was so hard to do. Got lucky with the SteamDeck at launch I guess. Was going against people with preloaded carts lmfao.
>>737764519Battery life seems solid but somehow this review made me want the controller less since they criticize the ergonomics. The ease of changing out the battery is REALLY fucking good though, it's the direct opposite of the Switch 2 Pro Controller in that regard.
>>737766076>Steam controller does not have a native gyroscope; it only emulates sticks or mice.>Why are /v/tards so incredibly good at talking out their asses?At least for me, that's what all the Zelda Recomp and Ship of Harkanian Devs say for why there isn't proper gyro support for the Deck. I've noticed that Dolphin Emu can read the Deck's controls like it but I never want to bring it up with any of the Devs for fear that they're going to call me retarded or ban me without properly explaining why I'm wrong.
>>737767073Ahh, bastards aren't they, the old taxes
pls don't laugh but how would I connect it to my PC wirelessly via puck?
>>737766507>>737766186I actually just realized something even better playing around with it. When you launch an SDL application lizard mode gets disabled automatically, so you don't even need to switch manually. Pretty neat. Guess it makes sense considering Valve themselves put a lot of work into SDL.
>>737766895how the actual software reads and translates input from the physical components can always be optimized with future updates, same with networkingadding new features for customization especially with the non-button components like the touchpads, gyro, and grip sensors, the controller needs to know what changed and how to communicate that with the software on your computer
>>737758437I am my own boss, wagie.
>>737756596thanks, just bought two
>>737767223>I've noticed that Dolphin Emu can read the Deck's controls like it*like steam canFUCK!
>>737766646>Ratchet with gyro aiming just by taking hand off the controllerWait that's actually really fucking good
>>737767112>Add button disappears after using onceI guess 2 is the max you can get at once
>$149 CAD
>>737767268the puck is also the receiver, no?
>>737767309>adding new features for customization especially with the non-button components like the touchpads, gyro, and grip sensorsthat's not handled by the controller's firmware, it's handled by steam input's translation layer
>>737767407your fault for being canadian
>>737767223They're kinda right. When the Steam client takes control of the hardware you indeed can't access it directly. No idea how the GyroDSU gets around that, probably some raw evdev fuckery. But yeah, in that case you might need a workaround like that.But we're talking about not having Steam running at all. At that point you can do whatever you want. Go ahead, try using Cemu without Steam running. It'll detect the Steam Deck inputs just fine, including the gyro, all via SDL.
>>737767268the puck is a 2.4ghz dongle
>>737756596Lmao, what the fuck is this? Was it made for extremely Fatmericans (spic) or Amerifats (quadroons mostly)?
>>737767407Doesn't that include tax? So it's exactly the same price
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>>737767397I was able to force in 3 and yeah for sure they are limiting 2 per customer. Thank god. I was worried it was 1. I have 1900 in steam space bux from the CS skin rework remaining (had more but went on a spending spree) and wanted to make sure to get two so both me and my wife have one.Pic related for proof.
>>737764840>but it's not even that much lolMost Americans make minimum wage.l at 17.50.
>>737767606>Doesn't that include tax?Nope, tax is added at checkout.
>$100 controllers is the standard now>/v/ is defending $100 controllers
>>737767839you wouldn't get it
>>737764840100$ an hour is 208k/yearNo one in business actually uses this metric though, we ask about monthly revenue. No one cares what the help makes. Theyre specialized LABOR. Be an owner anon. Not labor.
>>737767656Wait how do you add it to cart?
>>737767839It's an enthusiast controller. Those usually start at like 150 bucks.
>>737767882it's a hunk of cheap plastic
>>737767839>all of /v/'s third-world poorfags are seething with jealousy
>>737756596dont carewhere's frame
>>737767872https://steamdb.info/sub/1558609/info/install the extension (and I guess login using steam?) then you can click add to cartit won't let you pay though, but at least on launch day you can spam until it lets you through
>>737767901Would you have preferred some soft-touch coating that'll rub off in two years over your plastic?
>>737756596why
>>737767954I'd prefer brushed metal
>>737767839Can't wait for the board to spread their cheeks for the Steam Box being over a grand.
>>737767053So true king. 120 dollars for a base game is pretty reasonable too. Consoles should also cost as much as high end PCs btw.
>>737767981you'd probably be paying a lot more. Also controllers ought to be light, since you'll be holding them for long periods, and possibly moving them around if you're using motion controls. Metal isn't a good idea.
>>737767839/v/ is like niggers with shoes; if it's got the logo they like on it then they have to get it no matter what. /v/ is spiritually brown.
>>737768040Controllers last longer than games.
>>737765035Holy shit and steam shills were unironically saying this controller was good, LMAO
>>737768065>you'd probably be paying a lot moreand it would actually be worth the price to do so.>controllers ought to be lightdisagree. Light feels cheap and flimsy, it should have some heft to it.
>>737768095>spiritually
>>737768158anon...https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/hid/hid-steam.c?h=v7.1-rc1
>>737767937I wahoo'd it.
>>737768216>troonixsorry, I'm not on HRT
>>737768216>troonix
>>737768248your brown
literally worthless piece of shit controller
>>737768248Okay, second class citizen. Sorry Valve won't give full support to legacy operating systems.
Why would you be interested in the STEAM controller but not Steam?
>>737768276>your
>>737768276>yourlearn english, punjeet
>>737756739>>737759884>>737764840DON'T ASK QUESTION, GOYJUST CONSUME PRODUCT, GOY
>>737768354Why would you be interested in using a closed ecosystem on PC?
>>737768314>WindowsGet with the times grandpa
>>737768314what the fuck? DOA
>add non steam game to library and launch>controller works fine?
>>737766928>f-follow my retardation or ill call you new!!nah, you are a retard and an actual newfag, probably brown too lmao
>>737756596I hate the way trackpads feel, just texturally, don't like them very much. Give me a classic gamepad anyday.
>>737768354I at least enjoy the option of not having to add every non-steam game to steam just to use my gamepad. But then again, a fallback is provided on Linux so I don't know what people are complaining about.
>>737768127Trvke. They should cost 300 dollars since they're so long lasting.
>>737768314HAHAHAHAHA
>>737767839>redditlettermedia picyou are dumb so i don't think you will ever be genuine in a discussionpost another retarded pic as i know you will or kill yourself
>>737768538This but unironically, poors should be gatekept, and the ultimate gatekeep would be literally not being able to play many games due to being unable to afford the device you might need to play said games.
>>737768314There's literally no reason not to include xinput functionality.
>>737768487I can see some people concerned with privacy being iffy about their use of something like Ryujinx being logged on Steam's servers.
Remember paying 50 fucking dollars for a gamecube at wallmart? like a whole console?
>can ship it to australia and new zealand>but not south americafucking why gaben
>>737768314wtfwhat's the point? doesn't steam end up mapping input to xinput for games anyway
>>737768692No because Im not a balding 40 year old tendie
>>737768718ur brown and poor, not worth the effort handling support and returns
>>737764523Selling his bussy to rich fags
>>737767901A hunk of cheap plastic with advanced motors, quantum tunneling sticks, and touch panels.
>>737768670I don’t think that’s how that works
>>737764578>Europe and NA onlyWhy do white people only get the good stuff.
>>737768805and no xinput support
>>737768836>NA>whiteHOLLY KEK
>>737768782I work as a developer for an international bank. I probably make more than anyone ITT
>>737768663There's literally no reason to write drivers for an OS that's on its way out.
>>737768314Not working on any consoles either kinda sucks when console controllers do also work on PC. I was ready to blow 100 smackers on this but the limitations are a bit too annoying right now, mostly needing to add everything you pirate or play on an emulator to Steam to use your controller. >>737768827Steam can detect which exe file is launched when you start a game, particularly if the game is launched directly through the Steam client. AKA when you add a game to have it launch via the Steam client.
>>737768726>what's the point?You need to run all games through steam to emulate xinput.
Who is buying a Steam Controller so they can ignore every single feature about it and just use it as a weird Xbox controller?
>>737768974sure let's just not support the most popular OS on the market that most of their consumers are still using (steam survey proves this)
>>737768718You could buy a house for $99 in Venezuela. Do you think people there can afford this?
>>737769051I have games outside steam that I sometimes play, I genuinely cannot think of a good reason the controller does not include a basic xinput driver. Requiring steam for any game is absurd. Even my stadia controller is xinput native
>>737768952oh ya well i am the bsos of ur bank and ur fired now so now you make NO money ahaha ownt bitch (:<
>>737769061If those people are happily using Steam why would they need a native driver?Ngl, it's fucking hilarious watching winfags squirm at the very first signs they're about to enjoy the afterthought experience Linux fags have been enduring for ages.Adapt or die, bitch.
Of course...
>>737769093guaranteed there are more potential buyers in argentina and brazil alone than all of australia and new zealand
Free for CS:GODS
How are you adding wishlist items to your carts?
>>737769158Install a real OS.
>>737769197>>737769316I'm not switching to linux, and that's not out of preference but obligation. I rely on windows for my job. There is genuinely no reason for valve to not support xinput out the box
>>737768095This. Third worlders and negroes will buy it because in their mind, it's a status symbol, that they're able to afford something they don't even need, even if that forces them to borrow money.
Uh oh....
>>737769202Which country?
>>737769202see>>737764578
>>737756596it has 2 sensor pads
>>737769334Just use another gamepad then
>>737765483I could see some people trying to make it look like shit to secure their orders.
>>737769394the gamers nexus review as basically the same, if you're not going to make use of the extra features like trackpads to play pc games on your couch, there are other options that might be better for you.
>>737769394Oh, that is cheap. Why are Xbox controllers so inexpensive?
>>737769334>I play on the same computer as I do my workEither larping or a complete cuck to your employer.
>>737756596why cant they just make a sexy controller like the DS4? This thing is too damn fat
>>737769497My concern is that the Frame might pull the same shit>>737769537>employerfreelancer
>>737769536They have literally no features. Xbox controllers have not evolved since 2005.
>female hands with male voicewhat were they thinking?
>>737769394
>>737769585>My concern is that the Frame might pull the same shitit's made to work well with the frame, even has tracking
>>737769618female hands for no disgusting male hands and a male voice for a calm confident speaking voicewomen are retarded when they explain things and people get turned off just by hearing a woman, simple as
>>737756783My steam deck had to be sent back to valve twice. They are pro consumer but their QC isn't much better than an average Chinese budget company.
>>737769394>doesn't mention anything about the customizationthe entire point of the steam controller is how much you can tweak the various features to do shit you can't do on other controllers.Obviously if you don't interact with any of that and use the controller just as if it was a regular ass xbox controller you would likely think it to be a bad value as you are literally not using the entire reason for it to exist.
>>737769585>freelancerSo larping.I sure am amazed how every single Windows user is suddenly a freelancer that can only afford a single computer the moment you talk about Linux.
>>737769334stop wasting your time arguing with neets on /v/. you cannot win.I agree with you, not having xinput is really stupid.
>>737769536because they've been sitting on a shelf for 6 years unsold
>>737769618I dunno but my dick was happy to see this (I have a hand fetish)
>>737769394Valve is overcharging on the pad to make up for subsidising the other hardware, believe.
>>737769727I have 2 desktops (windows) and a macbook. Linux is awful and barely relevant for the service I provide
>>737769813its literally tariffs
>>737761713I guess pc gamers aren't gamers? Shit like oldxcom would be rancid ass on a normal controller
Is this supposed to be surprising? Other controllers are like $70+ and don't even have the touch pads. Of course it's gonna be $100, which isn't an issue for proper adults.
>>737769863b-b-b-b-b-but I thought the tariffs were supposed to make americans rich and make products cheaper....
>>737766646Wait, that looks neat. It's the Deck all over again, they failed to market the best features.
>>737756739What's the blow jobs per hour?
>>737762057It's an attempt to turn the word shitskin around. Whoever came up with it didn't really think this through.
>>737769880the dualshock 4 and dualsense both have a touchpad. and no one uses them. now imagine having 2. even more useless.
>>737769859Well Windows is barely relevant to Valve it seems, sucks to suck.Sorry your work choices have you anchored to legacy software.
>>737769863So the result of tarrifs is it makes american manufacturers completely uncompetitive and doesn't affect chinese products? What?
does the controller work without using steam?
>>737769863it's not at allshipping and travel in general has taken a hit because there is an excuse to sell fuel at a higher price (there's barely any actual cost increase for them it's just a convenient reason, that's also why it won't drop down after)just look at plane tickets, it all shot up
>>737764439Nigger shut up I still have my ps2 street fighter fight pads & even they have outlived modern dog shit. I have a Logitech ps2 controller that I still use to this day that was made in China. Its not my fault all you knew about was fucking mad catz
>>737768952>And still can’t get the controllerKEKAROOOOO
>>737767839What part about that controller is STANDARD to you, its more premium than 99% while half the price and twice the features
>>737756739So? so do valve employees and they're out of touch with reality with the price of this thing
>>737769976no one uses them because of the placementYou have to reach over the dpad/face buttons to get to it.The Vita unironically had a better system
>>737769976That's because not only are they meh but they are in the worse spot every to use. You can't reach them without taking your hand off the controller lmao.
>>7377606618bitdo controllers are fucking quality often better than official, are you retarded?
>>737769976the touchpad on those controllers are literally a gimmick ported over from the vita. The position of it on the controller also makes it quite awful to use for anything but random little gimmicks. At least back on the Vita they had an actual purpose and multiple games had main game mechanics tied to the touchpad on the back, a significantly better placement as it meant you could interact with the touchpad while still using the main controls on the front unlike with those controllers.
>>737756596Idk, $100 for a PC controller is a big ask, when there are comparable $50 if not even cheaper controllers out there... The only value it has is whenever steam box comes out the touchpads will be nice addition to navigate the UI, but if you already own a PC, the touchpads are a useless feature of this controller and not really worth paying $100 for.
>>737765964I have a 8bit Pro Ultimate and love it. it's way better than the Xbox SX one I had before.
>>737769985Yes and no. The gamepad doesnt function without steam running
https://old.reddit.com/r/SteamController/comments/a5sxl9/is_there_a_way_to_use_a_steam_controller_as_an/the fucking 2015 controller also didn't have xinput. 10 fucking years and an entire redesign and they couldn't be bothered adding itclown company
>>737768314yeah this controller is shit
>>737770169there is no modern games that are made with gimmicky gyros and touchpads in mind. everything is made for xinput, which the steam controller doesn't even have. it's stuck at 250hz polling rate, when other controllers can to up to 1000hz.Why would I pay $99 for this gimmick touch pads and gyros when I could instead just play with a mouse.
You're not serious about gaming if you're on Windows, get a console and stop moaning about garbage APIs being rightfully dropped.
>>737770169It can still be useful for rarely used functions.For example I have a TF2 config that has a 3x3 menu for all the number keys when disguising as spy since I didn't feel like cramming all of those on my usual weapon binds when it's so rarely needed.Still, the Steam Controller ones are far more useful.
>>737766253VAT is included in the price on the shelf, rather than at the register.
I'd only get one if it's bundled with the Steam Machine for cheaper and I'm only thinking about getting a Steam Machine so I can play around with a non-Windows OS PC I only use for gaming. Even then, I'd probably be spending more than if I just got a budget PC and threw in a budget card. What do people think the Steam Machine will cost?
>>737770341I have a console and it comes with a controller that supports xinput and works on my pc
>>737770156They probably are. I have an 8bitdo pro 3 for emulating PS games and it's great. Also enjoy my 8bitdo retro keyboard.
>>737770258The 2015 Steam Controller is literally useless as a x input controller Why would you want that
>>737768314>no xinputthat's actually really fucking stupid>b-b-but just use steam bro it's the steam controller use steam bro!try getting the OG steam controller to work in 2026 without hacky workarounds or getting random shit off github.valve has already established that they'll just drop first party support to a controller they manufactured. Including x-input would prevent that.
>>737770437four hundred thousand dollars
>>737770335There's plenty of games with native gyro support on PC. Sorry unc, xinput is an old hat.
>>737770453Good for you, stay there.
I'd just like a controller that I can use with several consoles. Tired of having to use adapters and hope.
>>737756596>"599 us dollars" was 20 years ago
>>737770335Nintendo literally makes games with the gyro in mindI literally already explained to you why ps4/5 games don't use the touchpad for anything major, while plenty of vita games actually were designed around the touchpad. If the controller is shit nobody is going to fucking design their games around needing to do fucking weird ass hand gestures.
>>737770473My Steam Controller still works just fine with current Steam.
>>737770437i've been hearing $1100 for the lower end model. i could have been hearing bullshit though, so who knows.
>steam shuts down>controller is now bricked
>>737770473>try getting the OG steam controller to work in 2026I use one everyday and the only reason you’d have to do any “hacky workarounds” is if you lost the dongle and had to update the bluetooth firmware with a one click program
>>737770604who gives a fuck about nintendo, they've been making gimmicks since the 80s. no one cares about your plastic wands that you shake left and right.
>>737770341My "unserious" windows PC has flawlessly been running Windrose at 7680x2160 maxxed out while simutaniously running the server that 8 people are joining at the same time without hiccuping or even struggling. Meanwhile, if I tried to use my GPU in Linux the driver support would be atrocious and it would probably shit itself. SteamOS and other alternatives have been a great push to a more viable gaming world on PC but acting like Windows doesn't still dominate is fucking hilarious.
>>737768952sorry, whites only
>>737769880Proper adults don't even buy gamepads because they've better things to do than wasting their time and money on games and gamepads LMAO
>>737770689ah yes because sony is so much better
>>737770689The Wii won that generation.
>>737756983You'll probably see custom buttons on Etsy eventually but otherwise it'll most likely be pretty standard stuff where the ABXY are keyed for the Steam Controller and nothing else
>>737769994it was going to be $70-80 in developmentthen there were tarriffsthe increase in shipping JUST happened, the price might actually increase
>>737770748>>737770771I don't buy those gimmicks. I play on PC with a mouse and keyboard. the rare times I use a controller, it doesn't need steam running to work.
>>737770728That doesn't even make sense. What exactly is a better thing to do? Also saying wasting time and money on having fun is fucking hilarious.
>>737770698>windows PC has flawlessly been runninglmao, sure.>saaaaaaar my GPU drivers saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarGuess who's responsible for those, train tracks.
>>737770970>anything that wasn't around when I was playing on my 360 is a gimmickokay boomer
Why do brown people get upset when there's options to buy hardware that does something they don't care about
>>737771046Ah yes, what a great argument of "nuh uh"
Why don't more comtrollers add adaptive triggers? It’s like the only remarkable new tech in controllers and only sony does it.
>>737771084people are not upset, people are trying to not get scammed.$99no xinputplasticky controllerno ergonomicsstuck at 250hz polling ratedoesn't work if steam is not running.
>>737771187You are literally brown
>>737771187>stuck at 250hz polling rateIt's not an issue with Puck. Only when you're using BT.
>>737771187>no xinputSteam Input is already an Xinput wrapper, not really necessary for what they want Steam Controller to do and what it's for>plasticky controllerDumb take>ergonomicsIt's a Dualshock in ergonomics>polling rateLiterally does not matter in 99.99% of scenarios>doesn't work if steam is not runningIt's still a Dinput device that connects over USB, its own 2.4ghz receiver, and Bluetooth
>>737771187Are you advocating for glossy finish, walking turd?
>>737771187Why are you using the price like a negative? It's competitively priced and not everyone is a poor loser. Also who cares if steam is running?
>>737770830nah it's not tariffsit's cost offloadingthey want the frame and machine to be at a reasonable price so they offload some of the increase due to RAM to the controller
>>737771181Because I don't want games physically fucking with my inputs. HD rumble I do like though, especially on racing games.
>>737771187>$99Not much more than a dualsense and far less than an Elite or Edge, reasonable for the feature set>no xinputdon't care wintard>plasticky controllergood, fuck coatings>no ergonomicslooks good to me, all the Valve hardware I've held has been great in that department so I'd be surprised if this one's a dud>stuck at 250hz polling rateplenty if you're playing at 60Hz as I am, also BT only>doesn't work if steam is not runningdon't care wintard, works on my machine
>>737771293>It's a Dualshock in ergonomicslol no. Do you even know anything about ergonomics? It's how something actually fits the human body and from looking at it it does not look comfortable to use.
>>737771374Every game with them lets you disable them
>>737771397You literally just hold it as a Sony controller, what's not to get here
>>737771379Why are you saying wintard as if windows doesn't run steam? Zoomers are so fucking weird man.
>>737771434I notice you cut out those touchpads that would require you to bend your thumbs backwards lol.
>>737771434you don't get it, he's a sweaty fatass that physically needs to touch his hands with the tips of his fingers when holding pad
>>737771476>bend your thumbs backwards?????????
>big ass screwholes on the back>cheap plastic
>>737771374Enjoy your subpar experience then plebe
>>737771187Just don't buy it. This isn't meant to replace a standard pad. It's for people who want the ability to play mouse centric games on a couch. They don't care if you adopt the controller, it only exists to enable the stam machine to function in the living room.
>>737771476Are you one of those guys that thinks you had to hold all three prongs of an N64 controller?
>>737771476...what? How do your thumbs work? Lmfao.
>>737771512I think you are one of those that has trouble rotating an apple in their head.
>>737771473He's talking about using it without Steam. Works fine in Linux, not so much in Windows.
>>737771473I can guarantee you that everyone on this board that says they use linux, never used linux. it's just trolling at this point.>>737771527then buy a console, you're not PC gamers.
>>737771534Try to move your thumb down towards your wrist. How far can you get? (not that far) Is this comfortable to do? (no).
>>737771556Yeah but who cares? Just run Steam, acting like that's not a thing running on 99% of gamers computers already is retarded. I've had steam running on my PCs for 21 years.
>>737771476The touchpads are positioned just slightly below DualSense analogs.
>>737759207>>737759268You're dumb and wouldn't be saying that if you ever held a controller in your hands while your brain was awake.
>>737771620I'm not the one complaining about lack of xinput support. I'm the one that won't even run into that problem.
>>737771627see>>737771617
>>737771627Damn the dualsense is sexy
>>737771617Hold a controller in your hand and move your thumbs down 2 centimeters
>>737760648Name a better company for mice. You can't. Best you can do is name some hipster brand that isn't well known enough for people to complain about them.
>>737771605It's just a way for them to feel unique and special. >>737771617Yeah, I don't know if you're just blind or retarded or what but the touch pads are directly below the joysticks. Your thumbs just move up and down, which, for me, is a very normal natural capability of my thumbs.
>>737771690Dualsense and PS5 are really weird, they're copying the Wii's frutiger-aero aesthetic.
>>737771708>Just break your thumbs m8 wtf it's not that hard
>>737771714zowie
>>737758835>redditsaw man
>>737759957See: >>737759670
>>737771690But you're never going to use to touchpad for anything that isn't essentially a giant select button.The trackpads on Steam Controller are exactly the same concept, but positioned ergonomically enough to be usable for more things
>>737771742I'll give you a 5/10 because you got 2 genuine replies out of me
>>737771714>better brands don't exist because i haven't heard of themthis nigga plays peekaboo
>>737771690I don't like the default white but I love my cobalt blue one.
can't wait to manually add 320 hrpgs to fucking steam and then set them all to hidden
>>737771804Whatever m90. Enjoy your unergonomic overpriced controller.
>>737771714>the only brands he's heard of is logitech and razer
>>737771846I will!
>>737771886(probably won't though once you actually get it in your hands)
>no adaptive trigger>no manual locks on the triggers at least for those of us that prefer half travel instead of full>no HD rumble, just basic-bitch rumble>sticks are a farther reach than Xbone/DualSense>plastic feels cheap>stuck using Steam for it
I'm still cranky the dual-stage triggers from the original Steam Controller are gone. Sure, there's two more back buttons to replace them but it's just not the same and pressing with your ring fingers is kinda awkward.
>>737771989>no adaptive triggerGood, I played around with that for twenty seconds in an online Dualsense tester tool and I thought it was fucking annoying. Fighting with my controller to shoot a gun or open a door isn't immersive it's tedious
>>737771930>OG Steam Controller is ergonomic as fuck>Steam Deck is ergonomic as fuck (kinda heavy tho)>Index controllers are ergonomic as fuck>but surely, Valve will have completely fucked this one up
>>737771665stfu you're black
>>737772101>>OG Steam Controller is ergonomic as fuckdid you use the thing?because holy fucking shit no it was not. I tried using it to play a low impact JRPG of all fucking things for like 6 hours and it cramped one of my hands up for 3 days after.
>>737772101>OG Steam Controller is ergonomic as fuckI got big hands and the OG controller is uncomfortable as fuck for my thumbs after 30min of sliding them around on the trackpads.
>>737771989>no HD rumblewrongHD rumble is literally just Nintendo's marketing term for linear actuators which even the touchpads in the original Steam Controller used.
>>737772169They haven't got a clue wtf ergonomics even are and are just shills who will "NUH UH" literally anything you say.
>>737772065holy soulless golem
>>737771513>not wanting exposed screws I prefer being able to repair a controller without obliterating the plastic because it uses snaps personally.
>>737772169>>737772184I have been using one for ten years.There's two mistakes I see people make with it all the time, require click on the touchpad, and have the thumb flat on the touchpads instead of curled so only the tip touches it. Don't do those and it's perfect. It has other issues related to feel, such as some buttons being loud as fuck and taking a bit much force but the shape is amazing. You just need to not try to use it like any other gamepad by force.
>>737772195>which even the touchpads in the original Steam Controller used.What the OG controller used in its trackpad for 'feedback' in a chirp-like manner, and what the DualSense & Switch Joycons do for are a fucking generation apart.
>>737771605Why are you having a spaz attack over how other people use their pcs. I grew up on 90s pc gaming, it doesn't exist anymore, my pc is just for playing console games and simulators now.
>>737772251You don't want a screwhole where your palm is going to sit, which the two under the triggers will definitely be a problem for me. The rest are a non-issue other than I wish they were more shallow like Sony/MS's offerings, to minimize crud collecting in there.
>>737772365PC should've been gatekept. you're ruining the hobby now with your console shits on PC.
>>737772329>in a chirp-like mannerIt can output some proper thumps. Have you never set the haptics to their maximum? Either way, the Deck and new Steam Controller do use more modern iterations.
>>737772329Steam Controller uses very similar haptic motors, it's all down to software
>>737772419How gross do you leave your hands anon? I have a mouse with holes in it and have never seen a buildup of "gamer crud" before.
>>737772440>Have you never set the haptics to their maximum?Wasn't an option last time I used them. I'll have to find it and see how it is nowadays, assuming it still connects to my PC.