>less input latency than an Xbox controller plugged in via USB while WIRELESS>plus touchpads + easy DIY IFIXIT repairs + back buttons + HD rumble + gyro + grip sense gimmick>all for just 100 bucksSnoy dualchucks lost, driftendo joy-cucks lost, xbots utterly btfo with no remorse.>but im too brown and poor for quality valve hardwaregamesaar is down the corner to your left
>>737779742SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>737779742Pitiful. Buy an ad, nigger
>TMR>Ifitxi parts>TrackpackYeah, i buy for sure
>>737779742Yeah, but why $99? What component made that cost so high?
>>737779742she's so cute, i might buy one just because of her...
it's shit
>>737780509FUCK
>>737780509wtf, why?
>>737779742her glasses bend the wrong way
>>737779742she looks like a nerd
>>737779742
>>737780509of course they had to ruin the fucking thing like this
>>737780546>>737780570You all know why: because xBox and nintendo will sue them for something if it was compatible and works just like an xbox controller or a switch controller.
>>737781462Talking absolute nonsense. Nobody would get sued over xinput support, and plenty of third party controllers offer it out the box.
>>737779742See, I saw it as this.
>>737781508>nobody would get sued over xinput supportYeah? People also said nobody would get sued for making a monster training game and yet here we are.
>>737781782xinput is just an API, any controller can choose to support it. That's kind of the point.
>>737780509if you guys really want a valid point, you'd be posting the shockingly low polling rate, which i hope is just currently locked by software because they wanted to be conservative with battery life.
>>737779742All for naught if the dpad sucks
>>737782282Dpads one of the best things about the Deck, which i'm pretty sure they're just reusing for this since they're going for parity.
>>737782235The polling rate is surprising but the real-world latency test is OK. Not amazing, but fine.
>>737779742You forgot the replacable battery.It's sad that's a plus, but, a plus it is
>>737780509F
>>737779898You wanna fuck a controller, anon?
>>737782339I have a Deck and it's dpad is awful. I pretty much always have to use a Bluetooth controller for 2d games.
>>737782561That's quite a strange opinion, what's your favorite or ideal dpad, for reference?
>>737782235who cares, controllers are for casual games and casual gamers. If I need a higher rate, I'll use a mouse/kb duh
>>737782632>That's quite a strange opinionNTA but it's one of the most common complaints of the Deck's controls
>>737779742Yes, but will it work in my tessie?
>>737782715Do people mean the ergonomics and its location? Which is understandable. Or the actual dpad?
>>737782850the feel of the dpad itself
>couch gaming
>>737782952oh, because it's completely smooth and lacks "grip" texture? Guess that's never been an issue for me
>>737779742What are the chances that they release a redesigned version with the handles more at an angle instead of near perpendicular?
>>737783029How good is the best TV? Are console kiddos getting 240hz OLEDS with edge lighting at 4k yet?
Fun posting aside i might buy it because i am fucking sick of my xbox controller disconnecting during certain games? I legitimately don't get it
>>737779742>overpriced controller:\>overpriced controller, steam:O <--------8 (gabes penis)
>>737780509This is something that can be fixed with a firmware update if people complain enough. (and should be fixed)
>>737783104I don't mean the texture I meant how it presses, it's too soft and mushy. There's a lot of people that have posted how to mod it for a clicky feel, as well as dpad cap replacements (which are an easy swap but don't affect how it presses much)
>>737783367What a nonsensical issue
>>737779742>PC controller>No X-inputLmAoWhat a piece of trash
>>737783513it's understandable if you play classic 2D fighting games
>>737783029i wanna cum in her nostrils
i just use my wireless kb+m even on the couchcontrollers are strictly for souls games and metroidvanias, and any old or cheap controller will do for those.
>>737779742Please tell me this was made by a 4chan -tan anon and not some fag on twitter. This is probably one of the best -tan designs I've ever seen
>>737783532>Xinput Tried it and it's terrible. Steam's controller support is beyond superior. Have a melty about that one retard
>>737779742>$99 plus tax :)we good bro what am i a millionaire i could buy actual video games with that money
>hate back buttons>hate rumble>hate touchpads>fucking useless gimmickseasily top 5 worst controller for me.
>>737783748dumbass consoletard
>>737780509>WindowsLEGACY OS
>>737783267>overpricedSorry, it didn't realize it was that shitty nearly $90 wii controller with shitty buttons lel
>>737781462>Weeeeee! Yes, Gabe-daddy! Fuck my face harder! Every shortcoming of yours is all Nigtendo’s fault. BASED LANDWHALE!
>>737779742>no headphone jackDOA
>>737783795Never owned one. Also never needed to rely on xinput lmao. You must be retarded or something
XInput is basically how Microsoft forced its crappy X Box controllers onto PCs thanks to its monopoly on Windows. DirectInput should always be the standard, but lazy developers prefer to cut corners, as usual, especially indie developers.There's a reason why complex controllers (such as steering wheels, hotas, etc.), all use Direct Input. If you have one of these that's "X Input," then it's just emulating, which is exactly like using software to turn your DualShock into XInput.
>>737784415I think the idea of standardizing gamepads wasn't bad, after all, even modern API improving on it like SDL_Gamepad still use that paradigm. If you need to support other types of controllers you can always fall back to something like directinput or SDL_Joystick.The huge problem with xinput is that it's not extensible in any way. You have the inputs of the Xbox 360 controller forever set in stone.
>>737780570you baisically have to disable the xinput controller if you want to make it appear as anything but an xinput controller to the system anyway
>>737782952>>737782850The accuracy of the dpad. It's painfully prone to unintended diagonals. It's common for people to mitigate this issue by taping off the edges of the pcb contacts in the Deck to reduce erroneous inputs.
>>737785578I think they fixed that pretty early on in the LCDs life.
>>737780509Probably won't matter since you've got Steam open anyway
>>737784415DInput is hard because it doesn't standardized controllers so you have different configs and profiles for every game and hardware. It was the wildwest until XInput came along and made things better. And before you seethe, there was a demand for it before Microsoft invented it considering xpadder and 360ce and the like were already floating around the internet.
>>737780509aka, the same thing as both the old steam controller and the steam deck
>>737781104ah shit now i have the sudden urge to have an ai robo that will suck my fingers clean for me with their soapy mouth
>>737785976yeah and it sucked for them too
>>737785664I have one of the LCDs from the first couple months. What did they do?
>>737786086redesign the pads on the daughterboard slightly iirc
>>737780509https://www.phoronix.com/news/New-Steam-Controller-SDLwindows cucks lost
>>737781782Man, the said "monster training game" that was getting sued used stolen models from said suer original games; frankensteined together on top of another MMO survival game. This shit is not the same.
>>737786057I run Linux where the kernel has hid-steam, not my fuckin' problem, wintoddlers.
>>737789094I shant be using linux as I wish to keep my genitals intact.
>>737789204lol
>>737789204Cool story, but I'm not the one who has an irremovable fag flag in the taskbar for an entire month of the year
>>737789339Never seen that on my machine
>>737783029One day you will hit 30+ and then appreciate the couch. Until then, enjoy your tranny gaming chair and cat ear headphones
>>737780509Pretty sure they said this in one of the videos when it was first showcased but yeah, sucks.Would have been nice if it could double up as a MiSTer controller or worked through Brook adapters for various things.
>>737780509It's good Hopefully hl3 is Linux only
>>737790009Hopefully your transition will be a success!!
>>737790146https://unlocked.microsoft.com/pride/
>>7377833262015 controller had the same issue and they never patched it :)
>>737779742Pc gayming will never be couch comfy.
>>737780509modders will fix it
>>737790374Then unfortunately, its once again up to the open source community to do what a multi-billion dollar company wont, and develop a standalone program you can run instead of Steam.
>>737790696They already did.On Linux.
>>737790751Thats even better, because now all they need to do is update it.
>>737790751What a shame
>>737779742>input latencyI've never had hardware latency issues in my life. Idk why all you mofos are obsessed with it. I'm pretty sure nobody can actually notice 10ms vs 8ms delay. It's a placebo. Same with CRTfags claiming superior latency over LCD. It's bullshit. Yeah wow, I can see the difference when you analyze frame-by-frame. That's not how reality works. That's like me pulling out a microscope to prove how dirty your hands are. Like yeah, we should all strive for lower latency. But using it as a selling point is ridiculous and I want to murder anyone who mentions it.
>>737779742>symmetrical sticksInto the trash it goes.
>>737785997>we could spend all of our time money and energy into robot sex slaves >instead qe waste the money annihilating brown people's desert cities Make it make sense. Our priorities are all out of whack.
>>737779742I'm gonna buy it and probably not like it over my ds5
>>737790946Its because the people in charge have all the children they can fuck and then murder instead, they dont need robots, and they dont care about you or me.
>>737779742Will there be an extremerate clicky kit?
>>737783810topkek
>>737779742Worst 'tan of all time.
>>737781782They got sued because their monster training game violated a patent. Patents are only valid for 20 years, and Xinput is over 20 years old, so they'd be in the clear here.
>>737779742>less input latency than an Xbox controller plugged in via USB while WIRELESSLots of chink controllers can do this already since the XSeX controller has mid latency values
>>737780509again?
>>737791962
>>737791343>saving up for mass murderGenuinely seek help.
>>737790320>no replykek
>>737791202probably, i just hope its soon because the steam deck's dpad was dogshit and this looks to be just as bad. the face buttons use a sticker for the circuit so probably a similar mod. if you're bold enough could prob just cut the deck ones and connect the traces with some copper tape or something
>>737779742>gamesaar is down the corner to your leftYou joke but the dpad on the DS4 clone one is better than the dpad on my dualsense. I bought it as a cheap beater to throw in my backpack with my laptop but it's not bad at all.
>>737786057how exactly?i havent had any problems with games recognizing gamepad controls and doing them like normal no matter how old
>>737785664>>737786216???
>>737792545>cut the deck ones and connect the tracesJust buy a bag of microswitches and conductive cloth tape lmao
>>737780509SISR exists.
>>737783326>just drop 100 bucks and wait 10 years until someone fixes it broretard
>>737779742Under those bangs she has a big, fat, black mole on her forehead.
>>737793663Where did I say you should buy it? Can you point out the exact spot in my post where I suggested or even implied you should purchase the controller? Fucking illiterate sub-zero IQ retard.
>>737793536im retarded, thanks for the idea anon.
>>737780509>it's works for mobile deviceskek what a cucktroller
>>737782729How
Anyone know what the ". . . " button defaults to?I'm thinking it should be mapped to the screenshot function.
>projected to only have 40k units ready for launch dayAIIIIIEEEEEEEEE ITS GONNA BE A FUCKING BLOODBATHPLEASE ANTISHILL THE CONTROLLER RIGHT NOW SO PEOPLE DONT BUY IT
>>737798346lmao preordered ;)
>can't order it directly in New ZealandGoddamn it Gabe
>>737798539Auschads win again
>>737783810Indian seethe is never going to get old so that's why I support Valve's controller pricing decision, let those poorshits in India+Canada+Cuckland suffer for being non-human. $100 is saveable through $5/h a month work. You niggers don't get to decide shit if you can't afford it, facts.
>>737798346So if it sells out it's still a flop, big win
>>737798595I'm sure JB Hi-Fi over here will probably import them at some ridiculous markup.
>>737779742FUCKING LET ME BUY IT ALREADY GABEN YOU FAT OVERWEIGHT ROUND BULGING MASSIVE TOWERING SUBSTANCIAL LUMPISH INFLATED LARGE IMPOSING MOUNTAINOUS COLOSSAL PLUMP GINORMOUS HUGE MONOLITHIC WALLOPING CYCLOPEAN MEATY CORPULENT MONUMENTAL HULKING BOUNDLESS LEVIATHAN BLUBBERY HUMONGOUS VAST GIGANTESQUE OBESE IMMEASURABLE MONSTROUS VOLUMINOUS IMMENSE PUDGY ELEPHANTINE SIZABLE BROBDINGNAGIAN FLABBY HEAVY OVERSIZED CONSIDERABLE HEFTY BLOATED TUBBY BIG-BONED ROTUND GARGANTUAN WELL-FED LARDWHALE NIGGER
>>737798862Fuck i just woke up. Forgot the image
>>737780509yeah we know that windows it's shit, maybe you should try linux.
>>737783787found the wavebird user.
>>737780509Whats the problem exactlyYoure getting the controller for input autism
>>737779742The blue N caveman said Valve will have a bundle for the steam machine and the controller when they're finally available, so I'll wait for that.
>>737780509Oh no, we will never be able to use this non-Xinput controller as an Xinput controller because there has literally never been such a case in the past ever
>>737799084yeah was gonna say I have to jump through hoops sometimes just to use ps5 controller.end up using steam input anyway, I dont see how steam controller will be any more difficult.
>>737779742>>737779898We don’t play video games on the fucking couch. The whole point of our PC Master Race Movement is that we play using KEYBOARD AND MOUSE. You will not win at CS on a fucking controller. You cannot enjoy Cherry MX switches. It doesn’t even have RGB lighting. We play video games exclusively at our battlestations. Don’t try to LARP as being from our movement when you clearly don’t understand what the ideology was all about.
>>737793456AI cattle should be hung up on trees.
>>737780509cant you literally just add a game as a non steam game and then use the controller. whats the problem
>>737779742Here's $200 for passing GO
>>737799290its good for 3D games, twin stick action games and vania-types, stop malding and be utilitarian instead or retarded cog in the wheel.
>>737798927what software is this drawn with? Asesprite?
>>737780509>no xinputGood.>but I can only use it with steamStop using wangblows, this is fixed on a real OS like Linux.
Analog trigger? why does valve do this? there literary no reason for analog trigger in 2026 beside racing game and those fag would just buy the pedal and wheel anyway.
>>737799290>The whole point of our PC Master Race Movement is that we play using KEYBOARD AND MOUSEWrong. The whole point is that it's a 100% free platform where you can do anything you want and not locked down like consoles.
>>737799290third person melee games are better with controllers, I cant imagine fumbling through Elden Ring on keyboard and mouse but im sure some people do.
>>737780187Why buy when Valvetards do it for free?
>>737799637this.
>>737799671that's only because Souls-Slop is inherently made for console plebs who can't fathom to understand how to make a good camera function with a mouse based controls.
>>737779742>99 DOLLARYDOOS FOR A HEAD
PlayStation mogs this dogshit, it's gonna flop too. No one cares.
>>737786953This
>>737780509>no ootb support on Windows without Steam>kernel driver upstreamed on Linux, will work ootb on every distro with relatively recent kernelSuch a based and bold move
if the controller is 100 euros imagine the gabecube pricing lmao
>>737783810lmao
>>737800291>PlayStation mogs this dogshit, it's gonna flop too. No one cares.It's going to sell out and be out of stock within a minute. There's confirmed only 30,000 in stock which sounds like a lot, but Switch 2 sold like 2million consoles in two days and all of those had controllers. Steam Controller will sell out in under a minute and everyone is going to know about it.
>>737780509>99% of steam games lose compatibility Based gaben for going linux strong!
>>737800492>Nintendo only supports their closed platform and no one bats an eye>Valve only supports their open platform base and everyone loses their mind
>>737790009The funny thing is, they say that but the truth might be that they don't want to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to get a signature for their kernel driver lmao.Windows kernel driver signatures are absurdly expensive now, which is why every nigger on windows relies on the broken winring0 driver. That has a legacy signature from before it became expensive.
>>737799510even more autism, flipnote
>>737779742I almost bought one but having to run non-steam games through steam if I want to use the controller for them is making me hesitate.
What's this about you not wanting to switch to Linux?
>>737798539>gabe lives in new zealand >yet can't buy his products there that's fucked
>>737798346NO XINPUTNO LYFEXBROS WW@
>>737791343If you're dead set on it, at least do it at a mosque or synagogue instead.
Nintendo stay strong
>>737797282It's the Quick Access Menu. It has shit like notifications, friends, quick settings, etc. You can hold it or the Steam button and use another button or stick for shortcuts like on screen keyboard, screenshots, force quit a game or change brightness or volume. There's a cheat sheet of all the shortcuts if you hold either down for like 3 secs without pressing anything else.
>>737779742lmao steamies are delulu, its not even an xinput controller so have fun playing non steam games with itits even funnier to see that this is releasing on its own due to gabe failing to figure out how to make the cube or googles
>>737801270I don't use legacy operating systems. I'll be fine.
>>737797195>he doesn't have a 9 second car that runs steamngmi
>>737801270If I needed an xinput controller I'd have bigger problems to worry about than a controller not working in non steam games. I'd be using windows.
>>737798539gabe is a fat loser that other fat losers worship, what do you expect
>>737801470>hes proud of using mac OS
>m-muh xinputAre you all brown? At least shill dinput or something.
>>737780509>this controller doesn't get pushed through a 20 year old sieve that strips out every single feature you bought it forHow is this a negative, again?
>>737789518At 34 I much prefer bed gaming. Hell I preferred it at 25.
>>737800893>see NZ with your own eyes>refuse to sell theremakes sense
people get the steam controller for all the autistic control options it hasonly steam input can accomodate all those controlshow is this controversial in any way?do people have zero idea how the device works?
>>737785772No. I only open Steam if I'm going to play a game. And I close it after playing like a normal person.
>>737801692people dont care, they see the steam branding and salivate over the thought of gabes dick
>>737779742how big are her trackpads??
>>737801847
>>737801891
>>737798346It's already in my cart and I have the money in my wallet, I'll be fine.
>>737799290>Don’t try to LARP as being from our movement when you clearly don’t understand what the ideology was all about.Why would anyone want to be part of a "movement" of FAGGOTS?Is that what a group of three of more faggots is called in nature? A "movement" of faggots?
>>737802213Now that you mention it, should I add it to my cart? I was thinking they might change something on the back end before release so I'd need to add it again. Anyone remember how it worked with the 'eck? Did you add it to your cart right after announcement and not have to do it again?
>>737780509Based, exclusivity wins again, FUCK WINDOWS, FUCK XBOX, FUCK MICROSOFT, FUCK PLAYSTATION, AND FUCK SONY.
>>737802472i bet you want to fuck gabe
>>737790009I hope, it'll be the start of something big that would only grow with time.
>>737780509who cares?only retards still use Wangblows in current year lmao
>>737790009>It doesn't need Steam if you're on LinuxAaaand I win again! I assume if your software has SDL (or similar (like most emulators)) support it just works.
>>737802704Doesn't even need SDL. Without Steam it'll default to mouse and keyboard input called lizard mode, you can switch to gamepad mode by holding Start. SDL apps can do that switching automatically though which is convenient.That's all assuming it works identically to the Steam Deck.
>the polling rate>no xinput>feels like cheap plasticBiggest flop of 2026, steamies on suicide watch
I thought people agreed that xinput was dogshit? Huh? What parallel world am I living in right now?Even fucking pajeetsoft is trying their hand with gameinput now.
>>737781462xinput is freely available to use by any product, Valve are just being cunts.
>>737803049>Valve are just being cunts.so just their usual shit then
>>737802983its microsoft shills
>>737779742>can't work with non-steam gamesinto the trashxinput is literally a freely available tech anyone can use for their controller, there's no reason for Valve to not integrate it into their controller except being assholes.I don't buy asshole products.
>>737803094>I don't buy asshole products.You're using Microsoft Windows.
>>737802983steaminput is more complex and can do more cool stuff than generic pc wide xinput, but there's literally no reason to nut put both. Steam can turn on steam input for ur Xbox controller or any other controller at the press of a button. There's no reason to just not put xinput driver support.
>>737780509Fucking not again
>>737780509Baaaaaaased.
>>737802983>>737803068Xinput is good, nice try valve shill. What time is it in mumbai?
Microsoft anti shill thread
>>737803236>0 reading comprehension I think you would know the answer to that jeet
The touchpads and every other extra input dont work with xinput so what does it matter
>>737779742>ABXY and not BAYXit's shit...and that polling rate is doing no favors
>>737784415>>737785874the thing is that xinput is just a driver supportyou can make ur controller as sophisticated as you want when you run it through steaminput or whatever other storefront app you attach ur controller to, and still have xinput so that the game works as a basic controller with rumble with any game that isn't through that dedicated storefront.
>>737802460If you want to, go ahead.
Somebody genuinely tell me what they would want this controller to work on that they're losing their minds so badly over. Fakest controversy imaginable.
>>737779742for me its gamesars
>>737803327>dalit steamie shill got caught in his lie so now he has to backtrackUh oh steam jeet melty
>>737803406Jeets and chinks seething
>>737803335They'd have to either write a driver and get it signed by Microsoft, which costs or go for the poorfag solution of spoofing an xbox 360 controller, requiring a whole new mode in the firmware. Both significant development effort for a legacy API on an OS they're trying to distance themselves from. Get used to Windows support not being first priority. It'll only get more common.
>>737803457you just keep digging that hole jeet lmao
>>737803330It would matter cause you can still use your controller as a normal controller with rumble support for any non-steam game. The extra buttons and fancy features will only matter in stuff released on Steam anyway. But stuff like emulated games or stuff in their own launchers will not have a need for that stuff and u can just use your controller out of the box on those if you did have generic pc wide input supported.
>>737791202I hate these. They're pretty stiff microswitches comparable to what you would find on very cheap chinkhelds for things like shoulder buttons. They only make the d-pad good for selecting things on menus accurately.
>>737803502total delusionalso you don't need to get it signed by microsoft, they don't need to write a driver. They just have to make their own thing compatible with one of the two generic input systems a PC expects, and both of them come with no singing or licensing costs or anything.Valve is drunk on trying to be Nintendo and isolating themselves from every other consumer space or hardware out there, and its a retarded idea for the pc market.
>>737803510Then dont buy a steam controllerYoure better off getting an 8bitdo or something
>>737803507>steam jeet deflects againThis entire thread is you samefagging attempting to shill your slop controller on /v/, no one cares lil bro.
>>737780509Will this even work on emulators?
>>737803589>Valve are just being cunts.>so just their usual shit thenok jeet explain how that is being a steamie?
>>737779742>Snoy dualchucks lostBut it literally offers nothing new aside from grip sensors? Which I can counteract with another random gimmick the steam controller lacks, pic related (no one cares either way). To be fair DS doesn't have back buttons but I did get a $25 DIY kit a while ago.Thing is, DS came with the PS5 I got on release, it wasn't a $100 extra. It also served me well as my primary Switch controller - and obviously PC.Not to mention the most obvious thing which a feature list like yours ignores: Ergonomics and feel. Among the most important aspects of a controller. I'm sorry but an OG Xbox or Dreamcast shaped controller can't possibly be as good.
>>737779742>has a literal mouse built in>back buttons>TMR joysticks>$99 is somehow overpricedwhy do third worlders even play gamesuse the time to earn more money
>>7377903742015 controller was also a piece of garbage nobody would want to use for anything, and thus valve so no need to updatetime will tell if history will repeat itself
>>737803578>They just have to make their own thing compatible with one of the two generic input systems a PC expects,Windows expects*And yes, that's what drivers are for. And Windows requires all drivers to be signed.
>>737803578but linux isn't valve's?
>>737803617>u-uh i-i d-d-di-didnt f-f-fa-false flag I s-s-sw-swear!You got caught steamie jeet, now back to gabens factory in Mumbai making those controllers.
>another thread of brainlet browns unable to fathom a high IQ controllerKekaroo. No wonder you all shill xinout because you're too fucking retarded to make use of the trackpads, back buttons, and capacitive grips.
>>737803834>brownoid projectsX-input is for white people
>>737780509Xinput sucks and it's reason why back buttons suck.
>no native supportwell that's a shot in the footbesides the obvious easy option to just make the thing be recognized as xinput, the fact Valve is preaching so hard about openness in terms of software yet they refuse to work on a program that makes the controller work in any game and its special features in any game that supports, just like github fags have been doing it for Sony controller since forever, is a clear showcase of what Valve's actual intent is.I'm not paying 100 bucks for a controller that only works with one storefront and even in that storefront has issues like unbinded inputs by default and games not tracking the analogs properly.
>>737803829>having a melty over being proven wrongdont you have a street to shit in?
Why would you buy a steam controller if your not gonna make use of its features which is only possible with steam input?Unironically just buy a high quality third party one thats cheaper
>>737803894They provide a kernel driver on Linux and all of its inputs are available to use in SDL. What more could you want? It's all laid bare for anyone to interface with.
If you have a Snoy controller, you can download a program that makes the thing natively be recongized by every game, and in the games that support the PS controller's special features, they work properly.Why isn't Valve doing the same thing with their controller?
how do i add this to my cart
>>737803987They do, the program is called Steam. They even provide it themselves instead of relying on randoms on Github.
>>737804001You have to pray to Gaben.
>>737800896XBOTS - FORM UPITS TIME FOR "THAT"...
I've seen multiple reviews say you can just add a non-steam game to steam to make the controller work flawlessy, expect none of them test it on video and steam input on non-steam games is literally broken and almost never works.
>>737803895Don't you have a controller to build steamie jeet?
>$150 CAD + taxesYikes I'll wait for Valve to discount it or just buy it used. No reason to drop that kind of money on a meme controller.>but you're poor!I make $150k and just finished paying off my mortgage, but I don't spend money on frivolous shit like this since I recently learned the joys of travel.
>>737804279>150kThat's poor tier, likely brown tier too. If you aren't at 230k+ in 2026 you are poor.
>>737804223>0 reading comprehensionok jeet :)
>>737804279>$150 CAD + taxesI thought only the US does that retardation of not including taxes in the list price. The 99€ price includes them.
>>737804314Are (You) in 230k+ though? Post paystub.>>737804354Canada does it too. Mexico and EU don't.
>>737804327>jeet still deflectingLMAO
>>737804428I'm at 259k, you are poor. No I will not post my paystub just so some brownoid can shit himself again. Last (you).
>>737804432>0 reading comprehension
>>737804589>jeet this angry after getting caught Holy melty
>>737782729Why does your ipad have wheels?
>>737804661>he doesnt know what projection or melty meansok jeet
>>737783603No it isnt because you'd have an arcade stick.
>>737804678>jeet failed English reading comp this hardvery pathetic
>>737780509>tfw migrated last yearnot my problem
>>737804732>no ujeet tactics lmao
>>737804486>I will not post my paystubOf course not, saar.
I think the real issue here is why the fuck is xinput so fucking useless that it cant handle any more exotic controls?Why is Microsoft always so fucking useless? Why are they only doing gameinput like last year?
>>737780402Ozempic for Steamjesus
>>737804790>deflects againThis jeet is mindbroke holy crap
>>737804881>keeps using words he doesnt know the meaning ofjeet confirmed
>>737804918>gets caught, keeps deflecting It's just too easy to spot jeets nowadays
>>737803874Xinput is stagnation. The White Man always strives for advancement. Xinput is inherently brown.
I really want to buy one but i'm Brazilian so i don't even know if valve is going to sell it to us directly, and even if they are i'm definetly going to get tax raped and end up paying a stupid amount of money for i
>>737805002Spain chads keep winning, stay brown.
>>737804940yes you make it easy, you should try harder
>>737805117>jeet still deflecting after his 5 hour meltyDalit pay bad?
>>737779742>100 bucksYeah I don't play vidya nearly as much nowadays to justify paying this much for a controller right now. It's not "absolute no-go" territory given what you get, and what you get has good longevity and is serviceable.Over $500 for a keyboard though? Absolutely, I'll get more mileage out of that, I use it every day, so why the fuck not.
>>737805146go on, what does deflecting mean?
>>737805228>deflects againGod this jeet is so low iq
>>737805275what does deflecting mean
>>737805332>keeps deflectingYep, we caught a live one boys. See this jeet melty? It's a good example of the jeet brain.
>>737805407>doesnt know what deflection is
>>737804735Based, and same.
>>737805462>keeps deflectingNice try jeet
>>737780509Xinput is the biggest piece of shit ever and any attempt to move away from that garbage is a good thing.
>>737804735>Steam Controller doesn't support XInput>meaning it won't be plug and play on Linux either>meaning Linuxfags will still be tethered to Steam to use it>"heh, not my problem, I use Linux btw"At least try to have a good reason to boast about how you're vegan that does crossfit?
>>737805507>keeps using deflecting incorrectlynice projection
>>737805648>deflects againUh oh jeets gonna melty again!
>>737791962>>737792105what site is this?
>>737805648>>737805676Will you motherfuckers shut up? Nobody cares, you're both having an autistic melt down.
>>737805676im guessing since its been so long you have been able to look up the word but sadly you still dont know what it means :/ i feel sorry for you jeets
>>737805715Gamepadla
>>737805737>jeet having a meltylmao
>>737805743>deflects againJeet meltdown on full blast!
>>737805593>meaning it won't be plug and play on Linux eitherYou're a fucking retard. The Steam Deck already works dine without Steam. This thing is just a copy of it without a screen. Xinput isn't even a thing on Linux.
>>737805737Uh oh jeet melty
>>737805781>doubles down on being retarded
>>737800793Microrats were pushing for that open platform shit, everyone including Valve told them to fuck off.
>>737805834sybau jeet, keep deflecting lil bro
>>737802983Xbots actually thought Microsoft and Valve were friends.
>this item is not available for purchase in your regionyeah nvm i just wait
>>737805859>lil broohh he just admitted he was a jeet
>>737805926>jeet deflects againCaught you red handed
>>737805803>You're a fucking retard>dinelol so cute you've made a typo in your rage after being told the truth.>Xinput isn't even a thing on LinuxIndeed, yet XInput hardware just works on Linux, exactly because it's XInput and Linux knows how to handle it. You're already cranking to it about how Linux will have Valve's holy drivers for it to work OOTB and the thing's not even out yet.And if you go back to the screencap that started this discussion:>the Steam Controller is specifically designed for Steam use, whether on a PC (or Windows gaming handheld) or a Steam DeckIn other words: just because you're using Linux doesn't mean you'll have drivers to use it without Steam. Valve designed it so that you must have Steam and use Steam Input to use the controller.Ergo, your boasing about how stunning & brave (You) are for moving to Linux is meaningless as you'll be dealing with the same issues as Windows users with this device. Suffer.
>>737780509WORKS FINE ON LINUXShouldn't have installed bloatOS if you didn't want bloat :)
>>737805969you admitted you were a jeet hahahahah
literal kindergartner playground fight in here
>>737804001steamdb
>>737806039>jeet trying to defuse since he cant handle having a melty for this longgrim
>>737805971>XInput hardwareNot a thing. Xinput is a software that takes HID reports and makes them accessible via its API. That API doesn't exist on Linux. Linux simply has drivers supporting the same HID protocols, but it doesn't implement the xinput API, it exposes the hardware via its own APIs.What you're referring to as "xinput hardware" are controllers copying the xbox 360s HID protocol to be compatible with the same software. But that's below the xinput level.>just because you're using Linux doesn't mean you'll have drivers to use it without SteamThe driver literally already exists. It will be supported day 1. It's functionally identical to the Steam Deck which already works without Steam.
in the first place why the fuck is xinput so archaic and lacking
>>737806287>Linux simply has drivers supporting the same HID protocolsAnd you're too stubborn to talk about how Steam Controller doesn't use those HID protocols, meaning it won't work on Linux much like it won't work on Windows as Valve wants you to use their proprietary software to use their proprietary protocol. Logitech mice suffer from the same issue where you need some form of third party software to utilize the extra inputs.>>737806365It was released in 2005 with the Xbox 360 and it was designed to be a 1:1 mapping of Xbox 360's controller. That's why you can't have extra inputs like with DInput on it. What the X360 controller came with, that's all XInput can support. Hence why Valve is relying on their own drivers for the Steam Controller.
>>737806419>>737806365It's just a remnant of when microsoft actually did good things but as microsoft always does failed to follow up on it.You can track so much shit they did back then that if they just kep iterating on would have cemented their foothold on the market.But they didn't and xinput is a great example of that. These retards are lucky Windows blew ip the way it did.
>>737806419>It wont work on Linux because Volvo didnt make drivers for it to work without steam. Ignore all of the FOSS developers or the fact that it likely uses the same protocol as the Steam Deck.Keep pissing and shitting your pants guy.
>>737805969>jeet left chat in shamelmao
I love how all the sissies here are ingoring the fact the controller doesn't work with dinput and isn't HID compliant either, so Valve just wants to force everyone to use one storefront to use their controller, amazing.Keep in mind every single other fancy featured controlled doesn't have this. 8bitdo controller with extra inputs work natively on everything wired and wireless with the dongle.You're paying at least 2 times as much as the best controller on the market right now just for some useless trackpads and Steam only compatability. Lmfao.
>>737806659Yeah no shit retard. I'm getting the SC for the trackpads and all the autistic inputs it has.
>>737806520You always insert yourself into discussions that aren't about Linux to make it all about Linux. If you had a modicum of self-awareness you'd understand why you're a socially inept NEET.>>737806504>These retards are lucky Windows blew ip the way it did.It blew up the way it did because Windows NT cemented itself as a rock solid platform in the 90's, where IBM had no fucking idea what to do with OS/2 while Billy G just hired Dave Cutler, told him "take OS/2 and make it more compatible", and then once 9x finally died we had Windows NT running everywhere, and after Longhorn we had a solid rewrite that saved NT from dying.Nowadays it still lives thanks to the wide legacy software ecosystem, which is something Linuxfags refuse to accept even within their own ecosystem where they're trying to destroy X11 and replace it with an inferior protocol instead of fixing it because "old = bad".But they'll interject themselves everywhere like ITT to make everyone dry heave whenever someone mentions Linux, so that's nice I guess.
>>737806809>all the autistic inputs it has.but those don't work on non-steam games. 8bitdo has more autistic inputs that work natively in any game
>>737806841>You always insert yourself into discussions that aren't about Linux to make it all about Linux.What the fuck are you talking about? I was replying to this.>Linux simply has drivers supporting the same HID protocols>And you're too stubborn to talk about how Steam Controller doesn't use those HID protocols, meaning it won't work on Linux much like it won't work on Windows as Valve wants you to use their proprietary software to use their proprietary protocol.How in the fuck is that not, in part, about Linux? Get your eyes checked. I want to also clarify Im not this Anon. >>737806287
>>737806996>Get your eyes checked.Hmm, let's see...>OP doesn't mention Windows or Linux>the reply that started the flame war only mentions Windows>/g/nutards suddenly make it all about how superior they are because they have a driver>all the usual ragebait shit that's meant to be a bannable offense on /g/ like "wintoddlers" is thrownTell me, why is it that you prefer spending your days causing OS flame wars online than, you know, using your OS to do more productive things?And yet you wonder why Linux still has the reputation that it has and that you need to regularly huff the copium in form of Steam Hardware Survey that are as accurate as a week-long weather forecast.Grow up and get a personality. Tradesmen don't treat their Makitas and Milwaukees as substitutes for dick sizes.
>>737806951Track pads and capqcitive grips alone give me endless possibilities.
>>737807116>capqcitiveok jeet calm donw
>>737807131>donw
>>737807080I don't care what OS you use, Im simply saying I believe it'll work on Linux without Steam either on launch or shortly after.
>>737807194>I don't care what OS you useYet you have a need to tell everyone what OS (You) use. Funny that.
>>737807321>Don't talk about operating systems when the conversation was already about controller compatibility and how it would or wouldnt work on them.Ok. Also it may have been implied, but I never said I used Linux at any point in my posts.
>>737807172>>737807180>they dont know the 2023 Spanish R&B/Soul single by artist Jay Kurlyconfirmed jeets
>>737806659>You're paying at least 2 times as much as the best controller on the marketThe Steam Controller is the best controller on the market. It can't cost 2 times more than itself. That's a paradox.
>>737807592>best controller on the market>isnt releasedok jeet
>>737807592it can thougheverbeit, it would just need to cost 0$ o algo
wait what the fuckthere's a lot of subpackages added for both the frame and the machineyesterday the only ones were updated 5 months ago, now there's new ones
>>737807713Those are coming June 4th.
>>737807713The electronic situation has calmed down a bit so Valve has a clearer picture of how to move forward.So it makes sense those will.probably get revealed soon as well.
>>737780570To push troonix
>>737807651>isnt releasedAlright fair. My post will be true in a week though.
>>737806365Because MS never expanded on it. It was a good idea to move away from the hell of directinput and mapping "button 13" to function.But instead of taking it to the next level with shit like sensible defined names for axes and buttons with vendor customisable strings so every game would tell you "use left trim pot" instead of "use button 26/27", we got stifled into the 2 stick 20 button slop era that essentially killed controller variation, as if MS had managed to perfect the controller and the answer was a PS1 dualshock.
>>737802472And Nintendo?
>>737808171and the sun will die in billions of years, whats your point retard?
>>737808374Uhhh bro your gameinput
>>737803607Yeah if you add the exe to steam as non steam game
>not available in your region
>>737808470nta but no, he said exclusivity wins again. therefore Nintendo is based in that regard, because they actually have exclusives
>>737808790What region are you in?
>>737809101look at his picturemiddle east
>>737799385Sometimes that shit just refuses to work.
>shilling US$100 stick-floaters during the 2026: The Weimer Fuel WarsSell stupid elsewhere, Moshe... The tank's full here.
>>737809189kikes can't buy it >>737808790
>>737779742'ick on 'oler
>>737809118If true, no fucking wonder, that place is in constant conflict for one reason or another. As much as it sucks, I can understand why a company wouldnt want to support it. Imagine trying to ship controllers in consistently without them getting blown to shit.
>>737780570Missing drivers. Meanwhile on Linux some random autist will submit drivers to the kernel and SDL.
>>737809325thought you copped a 3 day vacation for a second, anon
>>737809346Nah, Im just a retard and left a 'you' where it didnt belong.
>>737801526the fact that macOS and even iPads for that matter have better controller support than windows is kinda the issue here
>>737779742Doesn't have official drivers so if you're not a corpo cuck and don't play everything through steam you're shit out of luck. No emulators, no gamepass, no GOG. I'll just stick with my wireless keyboard and mouse and my cheap gulikit controller.
>>737803510All emulators support SDL for gamepad input and SDL has support for the old steam controller and the 'eck even though neither of them used xinput.As far as other games go idk. Unreal and Unity use SDL on Linux and I don't see why they would't support its gamepad mapping support on windows too since it gives you support for thousands of non-xbox controllers out of the box for free.
>>737779742LOL
>>737780509You lost trannyValve rocks whole world shocks
>>737779742>>737780509WTF LMAOOOOOOOOMeanwhile my xbox series pad works on any game engine by default. Including the most crusty versions of rpgmaker anyone has ever used.I am talking rpmaker 95 here man.Ban indians spamming valve shilling.
>>737780509>Killed physical disk>Promote micro transaction and gambling >Support denuvo >Now going to kill emulation to
I'll get one after a while probably. Looks comfier than the Steam Controller
>>737809573Works on my machine.
I'm a fucking freak already imagining all the freakshit I can do with capacitive grips.You can even change how much pressure it needs to get activated. I'm so fuckjng excited brehs. Another avenue for input autism I can fuck with.
>>737809792yeah this is a godsend for autistsevery little morsel of input is customizable per-game
>>737799478>>737799637>>737799671>>737802381Are you all genuinely fucking taking that post seriously.
HOW DO I ADD THIS TO MY CART
>>737809583name five emulators that only use xinput for controller support
>>737809938>>737806112
>>737809992HOW
>>737809573You add the games to Steam. You set the template to Gamepad. It works.
>>737810006Go to the controller page on SteamDB, then click the add to cart button.
>>737780509>no Xinputmeanwhile the much cheaper 8bitdo. mine even supports d-input for those truly ancient pc-games.
>>737809445Works on Linux
>>737782715It can’t be that common because I’ve never had a problem with the dpad in over 4 years.
>>737809445Most of my gaming is emulation and games not sold on Steam. They will work fine with the Steam Controller. You add them as “Non-Steam Games.”
>>737793536where can I actually buy these? the one on the left shoulder isn't clicking good and valve wants to charge me 150 buckaroos and ifixit don't sell them
>>737810281Considering how many emulators use SDL for their input you might not even need to do that.
>>737810153The Steam Controller will support XInput games. That blurb just means for games you haven’t added to your Steam library, which is easy to do for any game or app. When Steam isn’t running, the controller is in Lizard Mode, where it behaves like a generic mouse + keyboard device.
>>737810153>have a controller with back buttons>want xinputIt's shit.
I'm not paying 100 bucks for a controller with a shitty D pad. If i'm spending that much on a controller then it had better be flawless
>>737779742It looks kinda hueg with the trackpads. Is it comfortable to hold? When my 2nd dualsense inevitably starts drifting I might consider this. I have tiny dainty academic hands though, I hold pens not work the fields like a brute.
>>737809583I've been using my decade old steam controller (which works the same way) for emulation just fine. Gamesirs and consoletards are just retarded
>>737809573Indians are literally the only ones not capable of physically buying this on steam. It's literally not available in their region lmao. >Steam hardware including the new Steam Controller, >Steam Machine, and Steam Deck-is not available for >direct purchase in IndiaYou are literally a jeet shilling fucking Windows of all things as well, literally an indian infested OS. Kill yourself REMINDER THAT THE ONES HATING ON STEAM ARE THE LITERAL INDIANS WHO HAVE NO ACCESS TO THE HARDWARE
>go to desktop mode on Steam Deck>close Steam>gamepad now uses a mouse+keyboard fallback mode>can switch to a gamepad mode and back by holding Menu for a second>applications can also do this automatically, SDL ones already do>the gamepad mode even offers features like the gyro and additional buttonsGonna assume the new controller works exactly the same.What more could you want for non-Steam functionality?
>>737808470>and Nintendo?Is based
>>737779742Imagine designing perfection only to release this abomination
>>737811571I love trackpads too but trying to use them for movement feels like shit. I'd prefer it too if the new one focused on the trackpads more, but it's much better than the prototype.
Hypothetically, how would I use this for playing old CRPGs like Baldur's Gate or KotOR?
>>737812003Awkwardly
A controller that is easily repairable is enough of a sales argument to me. Trying to fix my Xbox elite controller was a mess.
>>737810358When steam isn't running the controller should behave as a dinput or xinput device as that is infinitely more useful
>>737812928Why would Valve develop that much support for a competitor's OS?
>>737813039Because their largest market is on that OS
>>737780509Can't you just add non steam game and it works through that? I'm sure someone at github will make a fix for this. That's the beauty of pc.
>>737813118They've made it pretty obvious they care more about steering people towards Linux/SteamOS with their hardware rather than selling to the lowest common denominator.
>>737813118It's a pro controller Use a pro os with it or suffer the humiliation of your own choosing
>no xinput>no turbo button>overpricedI wanted this shit for RTS games and to combo with the steam frame. I'm no longer interested.
>>737813268>>737813275If it does not have an xinput or at least dinput fallback then I am simply not buying it.
>>737813379Ok? You don't have to announce your affinity for indian operating systems that boldly
>>737813327>rts games>xinputlmao retard
>>737813379Valve doesn't care. If they did care about people like you they would have added it.I'd recommend switching to Linux where it will work without Steam no problem.
>>737813118Valve is becoming the new apple in realtime
>>737813436?I play with xinput all the time and the games automatically switch to kb+m the moment I press a key or move the mouse. What the fuck are you talking about steamie shill?Why is xinput suddenly le bad? Pcbros will probably be using fucking joy2key in 2026 just to play nonsteam games at this point.
>>737813515because trackpads you mongoloid
>>737810294You should be able to get replacements from ebay, mouser or digikey but should probably just try electric contact cleaner spray first before attempting repairs. Just spray it into the mechanism, press it in a bunch to let the solution in and let it dry for a day. Works for me 90% of the time for double/misclicking microswitches.Also tried it on drifting joycons followed by sicilone lubricant spray a day after and it worked for awhile as well.
>>737813421>>737813439If you think this is exclusively an issue for windows users you need to think again
>>737813327>no xinputgood>no turbojust configure it yourself>overpricedpoorfag
>>737813541So? It's still technically a mouse you fucking retard.
>>737813571It's certainly not a problem on Linux if the Steam Deck is anything to go by. >>737810914
>>737801891>54yowew
>>737813571It is, see >>737790009
>>737813541other controllers have gyro too which is not supported by xinput either. Guess what? they just disable the gyro like you'd disable the trackpads. The steam controller already has a "lizard mode" when Steam isn't running, but instead of acting like a generic xinput/dinput pad, valve decided to be retards and make their controller act as kb+m raw.Hell, it would be possible to have xinput and still send the trackpads as mouse input over a different virtual port.
>>737813660>>737813713There are dedicated emulation/arcade boxes that this will not work for either
>>737813718then what is this >>737810914
>>737813595>goodCope cultist>just configure it yourselfFuck off. My shitty chink controller has a dedicated button for it AS WELL as back buttons, why can't this garbage have one too? Am I expected to do a weird ass fucking combo to activate it every time, instead of just holding 2 buttons at the same for half a second?>poorfagI already mentioned that I was getting the frame. It doesn't change the fact that the steam controller is fucking dogshit for the price they're asking for.At this point, the controller is literally just a steam deck for poorfags.
No review actually compares the d-pad to the one on the deck, so the assumption is it's the fucking same.
>>737813785Valve only bothers to provide official drivers for linux
>>737813873and that's your problem
>>737813921It'll be their problem for losing customers
>>737813773If you're making something where half the features of the controller don't work then you're wasting the controllerThe purpose of the SC is to be a one size fits all solution at the pro level, not your fetish shitboxes
>>737813998bait
>>737813773Why wouldn't it?
>>737813985you are a jeet, you can't afford it and they won't ship it to you anywaythey're not losing consumers
>>737805539thisxinput has shackled video game peripherals with its limited maximum input API ever since microshaft decided to stick its dick in the ring
>>737814136I can afford it and it does ship to the UK.Not having plug-and-play controller functionality for anything but linux is a dealbreaker.
>>737813773Dedicated emulation boxes don't run windows so this is a non-issue. SDL handles the 'eck controller just fine without steam and it will support this new one too.
>>737813718>valve decided to be retards and make their controller act as kb+m raw.That's way better, though. I don't need joy2key.
>>737814234Too bad. Use a real OS.
>>737813718>The steam controller already has a "lizard mode" when Steam isn't running, but instead of acting like a generic xinput/dinput pad, valve decided to be retards and make their controller act as kb+m raw.You guys REALLY need to get it through your head that this is the Steam Machine controller, releasing for PC too is a bonus but EVERYTHING about it is designed with the Steam Machine in mind. If you sit at your desk playing games, this is one of the most retarded controllers you can buy, how much of a retard do you have to be to go "I will use this controller for a 4X game or FPS instead of this mouse and keyboard in front of me." It works for the Deck because you're not at your PC, it works for the Steam Machine because you're not at your PC. This controller is not for everyone and people need to stop assuming it is.
>>737814486Valve actually designed it for me, specifically.
i don't like a device that locks you into an ecosystem. i don't buy apple and I won't buy this
>>737813327>no xinputThat's a good thing.>no turbo buttonWith Steam Input, every button can be a turbo button for every other button. You can even customize the speed.>overpricedFor everything it offers, not really.
>>737814607>locks you into an ecosystemyou mean like windows with DirectX?
>>737814486What if I want to use my tv connected to my pc in another room?A steam machine is not needed for that setup. Extra-long fibre optic hdmi exists.
>>737814486imagine choosing to play a video game with office equipment when you have the option for a controller
>>737813806>copecope xinput cultist>im too dumb to configure the controller literally meant to be incredibly configurable to suit my needs AAAH HELP ME CHINKMANok>dogshit for the pricequite probably one of the most if not the most unique controller, with features not found in any other controller, that is incredibly configurable, repairable and includes a puck for charging and is still in the same realm pricewise as other pro controllers
>>737814716Two wrongs don't make a right
>>737814786>Pushing you away from a rock that would've crushed you is a bad thing because you broke my rib
>>737814867>throws a rock at your face
>>737814767ESL
>>737814958i accept your concession
>>737814743Then the steam controller was made for you. If you're playing on the couch, you're the target audience.. >>737814753Imagine pretending that keyboard and mouse isn't flat out better than a controller in most games. Imagine not realizing that for games that are better with a controller, that the track pads are useless and the steam controller is needlessly cramped for no reason if you're not going to use the track pads.
>>737815090>Then the steam controller was made for youI do not use linux, so no
>>737815131You're probably playing in big picture if you're couch gaming and the track pads offer a feature that other controllers don't. Even on Windows, the Steam controller is still good for couch gaming.
>>737815187Not all games work with steam input
I'm so tempted to buy one but I'll have to wait until the bundle finally releases, at least that gives more time for real users to share how much they like or dislike the controller.
>>737815235I imagine it'll be like the 'eck where Valve gets compatibility working for more games after release if there's any big outliers. A lot of them can be added to Steam regardless and have steam input forced on them. Track pad functionality will be a really big deal for couch gaming, where it's probably worth the hassle. For desk gaming, I can't see it being useful though.
>>737814694>With Steam Input, every button can be a turbo button for every other button. You can even customize the speed.If you have to turn one of your limited buttons into a turbo option toggler then it's SHIT YOU FUCKTARDIf you have to permanently make it so that a button is stuck on turbo mode then it's SHIT YOU FUCKTARDA proper turbo function needs to have a dedicated button to toggle it, otherwise it's fucking retarded. Do you niggers even play fucking vidya? Of course you faggots don't, otherwise you'd see how fucking retarded the steam input solution is.Just yestesrday I was playing Gato Roboto and in less than a second I made it so that the shoot button was on turbo mode. I don't know if there's going to be a charge power up in this game, but if there is, I will be able to toggle turbo on and off depending on what I want at the moment. If I was using a the gayben controller, I'd need to open the fucking steam input window every goddamn time I want to toggle that shit off, or permanently loss access to a button, and set it up for every single button that I might want to have turbo functionality on. Literally fucking retarded. Maybe you can turn one of the backbuttons into a turbo button toggler, but considering how dogshit the controller is, it will be probably be only used to assign multiple buttons into a single button which is a useless solution for this use case>>737814767The ONLY unique feature that it has is the fucking touchpads... that the DS4/5 also has. I unironically have more hope for the Wii U gamepad chocolate adapter that got announced recently. You get gyro and the touchscreen is an objectively better solution for RTS games than the touchpad.The shilling campaign for this garbage is goddamn insane. Just like how I refused to buy the scammy overpriced 1st controller for the Switch, I will wait for 3rd party alternatives for the Steam controller. I just want back buttons, turbo button, xinput, 2 touchpads and hall effect sticks.
>>737815379As far as I'm concerned this product fails as a multipurpose controller as it can only ever be as good as steam input is, and there's certain games (especially older games) that steam input just doesn't work for and likely never will. Hopefully valve sees this criticism and updates the firmware to support dinput/xinput for an easier PnP option.
>>737815534>that steam input just doesn't work for and likely never will.but xinput is le bad
>>737815598>I use arch btw
>>737815508>If you have to turn one of your limited buttons into a turbo option toggler then it's SHITGood thing the Steam controller isn't limited on buttons then.>If you have to permanently make it so that a button is stuck on turbo modeYou can also make it so holding makes it rapid-fire so you can still press it without toggling turbo.>A proper turbo function needs to have a dedicated button to toggle itYou can use the trackpad or back buttons for that. Or use the back buttons normally and the face buttons to toggle turbo.>If I was using a the gayben controller, I'd need to open the fucking steam input window every goddamn time I want to toggle that shit offOr you could just set the turbo function to one of the other inputs it has and use it that way. Just like your dedicated turbo button but more flexible.>but considering how dogshit the controller is,How exactly?>it will be probably be only used to assign multiple buttons into a single buttonWhat do you mean? You can assign the back buttons into whatever you want. Not just to other buttons.
>>737813718Pretty sure if you hold Start (or whatever the top right hamburger button is called these days) on the Deck it turns into a regular game controller.
>>737815915>Good thing the Steam controller isn't limited on buttons then.It has the standard modern controller layout which means that it IS limited on buttons you retard. Is there any confirmation on whether the backbuttons are literally just macro options or unique buttons? If they're unique buttons, then it completely solves the issue and is also objectively better than anything on the market right now and all of my complaints are invalid. If not, then fuck off.>You can also make it so holding makes it rapid-fire so you can still press it without toggling turbo.Stop being so fucking retarded you absolute niggerlord. I even mentioned that fucking charge power scenario. Why the fuck would you want to have it permanently stuck on rapid fire if you also have the option to hold the fucking button to charge shots? If an enemy tends to avoid or guard, then I obviously want to disable the turbo button so I can hold the button to charge my attack and shoot when I can land the shot. Otherwise, I'd rather just spam shots with turbo mode. With a turbo button toggler, this is done seamlessly. With the steam input option, it's a dogshit solution and you're a faggot for even mentioning that.>You can use the trackpad or back buttons for that. Or use the back buttons normally and the face buttons to toggle turbo.>it will be probably be only used to assign multiple buttons into a single buttonI need confirmation for this because in all of the controllers that I've used with back buttons, they were never considered unique inputs.
>>737816271>If they're unique buttons, then it completely solves the issue and is also objectively better than anything on the market right now and all of my complaints are invalid.
>>737815508>ds4/5 touchpadlmao its not shilling when its truecome to the valve church bro we are very welcoming
>>737813557nice, thanks for the info anon
>>737816713Those don't look like unique buttons to me. I can bind the A button to L4, but can I bind R4 to L5 for example?I also saw this thread but I can't understand the solution https://steamcommunity.com/app/1675200/discussions/2/3824161508147349815/Can I make it so that one single rear pad button toggle does all of the following without requiring to go to the fucking steam input menu every goddamn time?>press L4 + A at the same time>A is now on turbo mode>press L4 + B at the same time>B is now on turbo mode too>press L4 + A at the same time>A is no longer on turbo modeIf it works that way then it's perfect and I will get the controller ASAP since it means that I can probably also set it up so that another one of the rear buttons activates mouse auto clicker (without requiring any shitty external auto clicker software open)
>>737779742Are there any infos on the button noise? I like the dualsense because the controls are silent compared to the xsex controller which are loud as hellIf it's silent I'll buy it otherwise no
>>737780509I really wish it worked on PS5. I hate how I've already lost two Dualsenses to stick drift.
>>737817362Autism
>>737817467Probably won't work for this but you can get an adapter to use basically any other controller on the PS5
i've been using an es pro for a year now and it has the same tmr sticks but also hall effect triggers and stuff, but it costs £20 compared to this at £89. the over 4x increase in price isn't worth it even with the touchpad gimmick when you can buy a wireless touchpad for cheaper. also, the es pro is 1ms wired and 3ms bluetooth which is better than this.steam controller seems to try to cater to a bunch of people but ends up catering to nobody in the end because everything is has is very average and can be found in better implementations in controllers which cost way cheaper.
>>737809842poe's law
>>737817810I don't have autism I just don't like loud noises
>>737779742>No Haptics like the ancient Dualsense>The Frame has no color passthroughs like the ancient Quest 3Why is Valve so backwards in their tech? Is it cause they know their paypigs will buy any old trash they sell?
>>737819458>No Haptics
>>737782235Do you even know why what a polling rate is used for? Because complaining about that, when the latency is great, is dumb.
>>737819662it's a tendie that thinks no "hd rumble" means no haptics
>>737817074What you want can be done easily by adding and removing Layers. Create a new Layer called Turbo for the Default Action Set. Navigate to this Turbo Layer and change the A button setting to allow Turbo. In the Default Layer, you can assign any button you want, like L4, to add this Turbo layer. In this Turbo Layer, assign L4 again to remove the Turbo Layer, going back to the Default layer when pressed. It works like this now: Default layer, press L4 -> now in the Turbo layer with turbo buttons -> press L4 -> back to the Default layer with no turbo.You can save this as a template so that you can apply this to any game you want without having to do this over and over again.
>>737820045It says high-definition rumble right there too.I think that anon just skimmed the page and then went full retard.
>>737811921Useless thumbsticks and having the trackpads in the most unergonomic location makes the new one pointless.
>>737819662I meant the triggers. Imagine paying 100 bucks for shitty non adaptive trigger lmao
>>737782729tesla runs on the linux kernel so its more likely than you'd think
>>737820551I sure care for a feature only supported by half a dozen games.
>>737786953SDL is cross platformWindows-centric devs are just retards
>>737799253it wont be
>>737816271The back buttons are unique buttons. That's how they worked on the original 2015 controller and the 'eck. They'll work the same on the new one.
>>737804672so this EVChud can smoke ICEssies :)
>>737802883the xbox pads have worse latency lol
>>737803625>Thing is, DS came with the PS5 I got on release, it wasn't a $100 extra.yea it was only $499/$399/$699 depending on the ediiton of PS5 :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVRfie61QyE>manufacturing date was 2 months before initial announcementdamn, we really would've had them much earlier if not for the ram crisis fucking up the medium term manufacturing of the machine and frame so bad they needed to reconsider the controller's pricing modelall the machines and frames that will be sold on launch have been gathering dust for a while
>>737783029>he plays video games in his little cuck chair and his little bitch boy deskHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>737805593>>meaning it won't be plug and play on Linux eitherkernel support has been around for yearsSDL native integration was merged last yearSteam Controller 1 and Deck work ootb without Steam or SteamOS
>product not out yet>steamies claim its the greatest thing everWhy are cultists like this?
>>737820536Sticks aren't useless. At least one is required for movement and while the second one isn't needed, it's nice for radial menus or just games that don't support simultaneous mouse and controller input. I agree about the trackpad position though. My ideal controller would be the original but with 4 back buttons, the grip sense from the new one, maybe more face buttons in the middle and/or wider so you can fit a dpad and right stick too if possible.
>>737806419>meaning it won't work on Linuxliterally already does lol
>>737806659>and isn't HID compliant eitherit literally uses HID
>>737821780these faggots think that "not announcing yourself as a Xbox 360 controller" means it's "not HID compliant"
>>737780509I'm sure some wizard will make a 1:1 converter driver with no effort it is bound to happen
>>737813490their device is just an HID input deviceyou can have a generic gamepad profile set as your desktop profile and it'll just werk lol
>>737780509Fucking stupid
>>737814694>f you have to turn one of your limited buttonsbro is too much of a brainlet for Steam Input lol
>>737821748The dude is a seething microjeet, he enters every linux/steam deck thread and starts retarded arguments with absolutely no merit to them. He doxxed his reddit account on /g/ one time; he's literally an indian who worked for microsoft on an h1b, and posts on anti-linux subs.
>>737822292>who worked for microsoft on an h1blol nice on the past tense cause they prob had to let them go in bulk like other companies
>>737817074You can map direct game actions (like interact, jump) to those buttons if a game supports steam input, an example is warframe
I like having a trackpad with a gyro because you have a high sens/low sens option for aiming without needing accel, plus you can bind an invert x layer to press a button to reverse the camera so you don't have to lift up or ratchet. However, I have trouble coming up with good movement solutions for counter strafing and double tap to dodge that work as well as using a keyboard.
>>737787746>source: I made it the fuck up
>>737821447nice to see well thought out design from top to bottom, thing just looks hard to break
I play a lot of non-Steam games. Having to add every game manually to Steam just to get an experience equivalent to an 8Bitdo or Gulikit controller that has xinput built-in is absolutely ass. I hope Valve rectifies this problem with a software update or it's a no-buy for me.
>>737823917If you don't mind having Steam running you can also just use the desktop config for all non-steam games.Or you know, switch to Linux and enjoy native support.
>>737779742I require more megane steam-tan
>>737824209>Or you know, switch to Linux and enjoy native support.sorry, i'm not homosexual.
>>737824960Odd, pretty sure I've seen you at Microsoft Pride.
>>737799385Yes, run more spyware just to use a controller.
>>737825082What were you doing at Microsoft Pride?
>>737825121It's really having to go through a special Steam(tm) shortcut and the delay waiting for Steam to actually start the game that grinds my gears. Even if it's only using Steam as a layer to add controller support, it makes the game stop feeling like I own it.
>>737825239Just saw some photos. I wouldn't be caught dead at a Microsoft event.
>>737780509>Half the posts rail the controller for being proprietary>Half the posts ALSO rail the controller for being proprietary, but claim "someone ELSE will fix it FOR ME">The other posts are bots claiming "Steam rulez" and "I h8 w1nd0wz"Yeah. Gamers in 2026.
>>737825410>j-j-just saw some p-photos It's okay to admit you're homosexual. You use Linux after all.
>>737825584it uses HID and nothing is stopping anyone from wrapping its inputs and mimicking xinputhell, it has already merged kernel drivers and SDL drivers shwoing exactly how to do this
>>737825606>It's okay to admit you're homosexualSure, it's not okay to admit to going to Microsoft events though. Should be shunned. Illegalized even.
>>737779742Who would have guessed pc niggers were the drones and biggest perpetuators of platform warring all along
>>737782481'Ick on 'Troller?
>>737780570Because good things will be banned from existing now at an increasing rate until you kill yourself.
>this is the new standardnah . its looks like shit
