Less than 2 hours remaining.We're going home.
D4bad
I quit after finishing the story and I will never come back
>>737780646I shant be buying until it's Switch 2
Warlock bros where we at?
>>737781532we right herewe not goin anywherewe right here
What a clown world where D4 is better than PoE 2.
>>737780646Did they bring back Lorath yet
>>737780646D2r better in every way
bros...
>>737781935They are with this expansion
Blizzard servers 2026, this launch should be THAT big, right?and I'm playing Necro unless everyone comes out and yells about how awesome Warlock is.
GOGOGO
d4_BAD
Its weird how D2 and vanilla WoW were both fairly slow combat games with few enemies and both Diablo and WoW have gone the opposite direction towards being giant map clearers and yet Blizz sees nothing wrong with this.
>>737784660>yells about how awesome Warlock is.Hes already confirmed to be brokenly OP, just as Paladin was at release. They do it on purpose. Paladin was so OP you could literally do a build with 0 buttons to press.
why are they making us wait 30 min after launch for season to start
>>737785493I don't know, but it's definitely gay.
played d4 about a month ago. game is terrible. may as well play a free korean arpg
DIABLO IS BACK BAYBEE!!!!!LETS FREAKING GOOOOOOOOOOOHYPE HYPE HYPE!LOG IN
Maybe I'm a shitter but I find D4's post-level 50 content hard to get into.
>>737785427>Its weird how D2 and vanilla WoW were both fairly slow combat games with few enemiesDo you mean D1? Because a common complaint around D2's launch was that the gameplay devolves into huge open areas where you murder a bunch of enemies. End game D2 is just teleporting around with enigma/sorc and instagibbing everything.
Season where
>>737786189relog
I am still downloading this stupid 40 gig patch that came out of nowhere fuck blizzard benchods bloody!
Ready to have a blast and I'm not being ironic
>>737786286Steam or bnet?
>>737780646BLIZZARDBROS.PREPARETOCHAAAAAARGE
>>737780646>level scaling so no progress means anythingThat's a nope from me
>>737786327neither PSN
sry paldiablo 2 reks anything activision sneedzard has ever made
>>737786373You're not downloading a patch you're unpacking the preinstall
Was looking to see what was in the expan and saw this 'choose your flavor' mass effect tier shit for the warlock's skills.Can really tell they phoned in lock compared to pallies.
>>737780646they fixed RAM leakage yet?
>>737786473Lol
>>737786469>ai generated skulls ala Mass effect with different colorsholy shit this is so cool!!!Diablo 4 sweep!! do it for her!!! i love andariel!! girlboss power, make people eat their own babies this is so sexy!!!#Istandwithisrael
>>737786420why is it so slow? It's a 50 min process
>>737786469Paladin was the break in case of emergency class. Always was
>>737780646>Blizzard
>>737786540Ps5 CPU prolly it took my 5800x3db like ten minutes
>>737786469Man that's embarassing.
nigga let me in
>>737780646maybe when it's on sale
i got burned by how shit the game was on launch, no way ill ever give this slop another shot
can you start the expansion at level 50?
any quin69 viewers here?
>>737786130>End game D2 is just teleporting around with enigma/sorc and instagibbing everything.That didn't happen until three years into the life of the game(which was a long as fuck time by 90s/2000s standards where just a few years was an entire console generation) and the only reason why that ever became a thing is because of the design of the game making it so that Sorceress was the only viable option for farming. Instead of fixing that design flaw they just gave everyone Teleport. Funnily enough Enigma is far less relevant today in D2R because farming does not boil down to teleporting to a specific enemy, killing then making a new game.
I can't connect to shit
Another typical Blizzard release
>25gb ambush patch>CANT FUCKING LOG IN
im in
>>737786504I fucking despise nuBlizz
>>737780646is this the Paladin expansion? i bought it months ago to try the class but it didn't feel finished, so i decided to wait till the full DLC came out to play again.
Got to level 62 and got the boot. Here we go, bros...
>>737780646>We're going home.To Diablo 2?
>>737787071Yeah its the paladin expansion
give me a free key blizz marketer
>>737786469>couldn't get an artist to draw 4 types of warlocks>just 4 lame skulls>not even different skulls, the same one but with different colors each timeJesus Christ. But Diablo 4 is back, right guys???
>>737786717I waited until I got game pass for free to play it the story was real bad and all woke shit might get a key for 35 just for something to play for a while
>>737787239Done check your PMs little chuddington
>>737786130>common complaint around D2's launch was that the gameplay devolves into huge open areas where you murder a bunch of enemiesThats a criticism of the open maps, not the number of them or the speed of killing them.
>>737787271*sniff**sniff*Eeeeewwwww this get smells like shit and is all slippery...are you Indian?
>d2 >slowyou niggas didnt play this game, you can play javazon and mow down the cow level in2 min runs with barely any gear
all the shit we had to do to save neyrelle in vessel of hatred and she dies in the beginning of lord of hatred. so dumb.
>>737787391>save neyrelle in vessel of hatred and she dies in the beginning of lord of hatredwaoe (based based based based based based)
>>737787391I'm sure they realized no one liked her, so there was little point in trying to salvage it. Remove her from the story for good and move on.
>>737787391Finally, the true villain is dead
The corpse has been reanimated again has it?Pathetic.
>>737787391Who? That character was the dumbest thing they could have added. Nothing interesting about them at all
more like d4badmore like d4dadamarite
>>737787383>uhm you didn't play like the one OP build that made you fast?>yeah I ignore the fact that the devs themselves designed the game to be slow and 99% of players played it at a slow pace... but I broke the game so ARPGs are suppose to be ZOOM ZOOM Zoomer shit ok?
I can't unhear Luna Snow's voice from Neyrelle. Whelp she's gone now I guess.
I'm not impressed by the opening so far. Just been thrown out of Temis, and it's story just feels so fucking ham-fisted. Hoping it gets better
>>737787130Wait then what the fuck did I play? I did some expansion like a week ago thinking it was this one and grinded out the Doom battle pass and completed that expansion. I was Paladin in it.
>>737787391Even if they kill her off they'll just replace her with another annoying woke token NPCNo one cares about the old guy and the Chink sabotaged the D4 main character no one would have cared if he/she suddenly popped in cinematicsThe only way to salvage D4 is to reintroduce Tyroneal, have him 'die' so he can ascend back as an archangel
>>737787663They released paladin early
>start with the exp packno, I will play your entire game again Blizz and there is nothing you can do to stop me
>>737786717Unironically the best version of D4 is 1.0.
>>737787391lol who? I just spam spacebar
>>737787663You paid for the Lord of Hatred expansion already. Paladin was like the teaser class and it released in December. The actual dlc came out only today and it includes Warlock. Basically the dlc includes 2 classes but they released Paladin early.
>>737787549I HAVE TO SAVE HERITS THE ONLY THING MY CHARACTER CAN DOMUST SAVE ASIAN LADY
>>737787572>building a character>breaking the gamelmao. dumb nigga every single caster/ranged character has access to screen clearing abilities. only melee fit the vision of being slow pieces of shit in d2
40 minute login queue
>>737787698Oh that makes sense>>737787734I didn't pay for it, but that's an interesting choice to make. Were people really that mad paladin wasn't in?
I keep getting disconnected, fuck this gayme
>>737787847You really thought you could play on release day?How new are you?
>>737787391>Horadrim fangirl reads all the bullshit w/the soulstones.>How all of the prev Horadrim are jobbers that consistently failed & how they failed.>"Hold muh beer" retards do exact same story, beat for beat letting tween girl-boss try her hand at being 'The Wanderer' from D1/2 but it's gunna work this time guys!D4 was entirely insufferable along with the lorelet-tards thinking that Lilith cares for anything except herself.
>>737787838>Were people really that mad paladin wasn't in?Paladin is like the most popular class in the series. People keep complaining if it isn't in the game, next to necromancer. D3 kinda puss footed and gave us Crusader instead which is sorta like paladin but not really.
>>737787391>ib4 half the journals are her talking, and half the quests are about how brave and stunning she was
>>737787945>next to necromancer.Necro blows so hard in D4 it's not even funny.Dunno why they even bothered.
>>737780646D2R update was way better right? I don't wana buy this piece of shit games expec on the "hopes" that it makes the game better.
>>737787948>>737787391I genuinely don't like this kind of break neck correction. It doesn't fix anything and only makes the player feel worse for having to put up with several hours of the VoH campaign trying to save her only for it to not matter. Instead just put her on a boat/bus and say that she went back to her homeland in Xiansai to heal, end of story.
I cant stand this weightless zoom zoom combatPoE 2 is better and feels more quality despite smaller studio
>>737788075Warlock in D4 looks better imo. Paladin as well.
>Queue for login>18 minutes remaininghahahahahaha
>>737785427you'll notice how all top games are fast paced very few exceptions, like CS or DotA, and even those have fast segments in them (like ttk in CS)
>>737787391We don't even know if she's dead for sure.
>we respect demons, same as angelsNaww man, nawww
>>737788116Pretty sure that's the point. D4 is a breath of fresh air after slogging through maps in PoE2. It's way more visceral and the effects are meatier but goddamn the game is such a goddamn sweatfest in the end game. It doesn't allow you to breath at all.
>>737788216>he doesn't respect demonsIt's CURRENT YEAR dude
>>737786821I guess I only played Lord of Destruction and even then most end game players I saw played druid just spamming blizzard and running around not even bothering to hit things because everything died around him.
I loved Neyney I can't believe they killed my precious baby
>>737788203should have let us break her neck ourselves
>>737788116D4 feels and looks cheap, but PoE2 still feels too lethargic too play (especially early game) despite having the best animations and graphics. I really hope they lean into faster combat. Zoom zoom gameplay only becomes a problem in PoE1 way into the late game. Aside from that, movement and combat feel swift and snappy.
as im sitting here in the queue its kinda dawning on me that we will be playing aCOMPLETELYUNTESTEDZEROPTRBLIZZARDGAMEand now im scared
What happened to the skills points from that were unlockable? Did they removed that?
>>737788367>I really hope they lean into faster combat.I fucking hate how you poe1 babies have already ruined the game because you got filtered. You have an ENTIRE game that is what you want and you now want to turn poe2 (and have done it) into the same zoom zoom sonic slop that poe1 is where 90%+ of the players just use the current OP build of the patch.
>>737788427it got moved to seasonal journey, so you have to unlock it every season now
>>737788216That line annoyed me quite a bit. It just feels incredibly out of place. At the very fucking least acknowledge that the Demons are inherently evil for fucks sake. That doesn't mean you can't treat them as tools or *respect* them
>>737788367>I really hope they lean into faster combat.they already do. You just don't have to play melee because melee does fuck all in PoE2. It's actually one of the reasons I prefer D4 in that regard. PoE2 is better for magic and D4 for melee. This is because fucking jonathan designed PoE2 to be a shoot em up where even fucking touching an enemy was a death sentence so you have to be killing things from range at all times. The fun factor of playing witch or sorc vs melee druid or huntress is like night and day. They went through all the effort with the dynamic transformations for druid only for it to be super shit in late game where you die to a stiff breeze if you get hit.
>>737787130hell yeah, maybe i'll give this another try tonight.
>>737787802>queue for a single player gameda fuk?
>>737788529d4 is literally an open world mmo
>>737788529D4 is a psuedo mmo.
>>737788529>single playernone of the diablo games are singleplayer
it's over
>>737788556>>737788576You kidding me or? I have only ever seen people playing this game solo.
>>737786469dude, the pally deserves more attention, it's the protagonist class that should have been in the base game
>>737787802euro? I launched 30 minutes ago and I had a 1 minute queue
>>737788367>Zoom zoom gameplay only becomes a problem in PoE1 way into the late gameReally now? So the most common strategy is not to speed through the story to get to end game to speed clear rooms?When exactly is it not speedy? The first 2 minutes when you first run to town from the beach? Damn you got me dude, didn't think of that, such a leisurely stroll on the beach.
>>737780646that's crazy. still not going to buy or play blizzshit.
>>737788634theres literally no way to play the game without seeing other people around
>>737788634it’s an online open world where you can see other players on the map
>>737788706>>737788709So do you team up with them?
>>737788367>>737788471I really see no reason why PoE or Diablo can't appeal to both player bases here on this BIG SCREEN BOOM ZOOM and slower, more risky enemies where you only have to kill a couple. Like everyone agrees that PoE2 has an almost Souls like combat system. So just put in an option for limited enemy spawns but higher enemy damage? Call it tactical mode or something.
>>737788827No. They either leech off of you, or you leech off of them
>>737788663Later endgame maps are legit eye cancer that rape your computer's performance. It's nowhere near as bad in other points of the game. You're confusing being able to rush through the campaign and having multiple screen clear explosions per second
>>737788827if they are fighting something you can help them out. Typically there are huge bosses or regions with some sort of 'invasion' event that people flock to and do together. You can also invite people to your party to do dungeons/ campaign together.
>>737788827not really, everyone is usually doing their own stuff unless there’s an event or world boss going on
>>737788946>>737788985huh, so what's the point of it being "multiplayer"?
d4 is honestly pretty good. sad to see it get dragged through the mud constantly because every other team at blizzard puts out bad games
>>737788827>>737788634If you're playing campaign, you mostly play solo, like 90% of the time. Most people are also in high difficulties so if you're playing in normal or hard, you won't see other people as much.
>>737789019it’s for social people
>>737789019Nothing. It was a sales gimmick, and most likely just sounded good to investors while being a net-negative for the game
>>737789019End game, like helltides and raids.
>>737789080Oh, I just wanted to grind mobs and loot, guess I'll play something else.
>>737789019for playing with people, what else? 90% of ARPGs have multiplayer, its expected
>>737788850>So just put in an option for limited enemy spawns but higher enemy damage? Call it tactical mode or something.Shut the fuck up you absolute retard. You buffoon .
>>737789041it gets dragged through the mud because there's like 15-20 eternally, ragingly autistic retards here who's sole life goal is to shit up any blizzard game thread because they stopped having fun in WoW 15 years ago and have held it against Blizzard ever since
>>737789123are there any decent singleplayer ARPGs?
I don't want to create a separate thread for this so since this is a Diablo-related thread I'm going to ask here>Never played an ARPG like Diablo>Had a minor interest in Diablo since I was 12 but it was always a "oh I should play that someday" sort of thing>D2R gets released on Steam>Oh hey I've been meaning to play that for over a decade, I should get it>Buy it>I have 30 hours in the past week and a half, dropped every other game I was playing and am addictedOk maybe I like ARPGs, what are some other good games in the genre I should play if I manage to pull myself off of D2 after a bit
It's never mentioned much but I find it weird that this game has no true black skin. Instead dark skin just makes your character have brimstone skin and look demonic lol.
>>737789123game is pretty much soloable except for the dark citadel, and you’re not missing out much if you skip it
>>737789172in terms of modern games is really just PoE1/2 and Diablo 3/4.older classics are titan quest and torchlight (just the first 2). Titan quest has a decent looking sequel but its in a bit of a rough early access state.
>>737789172d2r is peak arpg and it never gets better than that. every other game has just been chasing that and never surpassing how god tier d2 was at launch
>>737789172there's torchlight, grimdawn, titanquest and PoE1 and 2 if you only play the campaign. Mind you the same itch you got from diablo 2 will never be replicated by other games and the entire industry is still trying hard to recapture it and fail. Imo, PoE 1 and 2 is close but they have largely went in their own unique way and I appreciate them for that. I unironically prefer PoE's setting and world building since it feels more exotic to me.
>>737789167Grim Dawn but I'm kinda bored of it.
>>737789143>ad hominemNot sorry you feel threatened by logic.
>>737788138But did they improve the gameplay at all with the changes they did?
>>737789174you might have some sort of shader or overlay interfering. My colors do not look like that, the background should not really have a red tinge except for the bottom right.
>”it’s finally good now!” Says the shills and corporate fags for the thousandth time
>>737789321grim dawn has multiplayer
>>737789123GOD you're so fucking autisticYou can still do that retard
>>737789426Does it? I never got a server queue or saw another player in it.
>>737789295>d2r is peak arpg>90% of the skills are dogshit and useless>70% of the items are dogshit and uselessWhat a genre
>>737789172PoE 1 or 2.Everything else is like 10+ years old and outdated slop, I don't think you would have enjoyed playing the Original D2 without all the modern updates and QoL in D2R.
>>737789501>want to play a game where you just turn your brain off and see number go up>surprised that its filled with retardsI mean come on anon you should know better
>>737789123That's what everybody does retard
>>737789476yes its on the main menu even, did you play with your eyes closed?
>>737789172D2 is the only game worth playing in this entire genre
>>737789595I just made a character and hit play. I don't think I saw a server queue on the main menu...
>>737789501no, most skills were viable until ultra end game, and youre not a gamer who will ever get there as you casually shitpost it>>737789556>shitter #2POE has you hitting 1 button for 1000 hours
>>737788525>PoE2 is better for magicI don't entirely agree with that. I gave the Witch a try and that one spell where you charge bone spears feels like absolute dogshit to use. Movement and attacks shouldn't have to be upgraded just to feel satisfying, and I'm not talking about zapping all over the map and clearing the screen, I'm talking about game feel at the most basic level. That's the problem I have with the current state of PoE2.
>>737789706PoE and Diablo are the same. Its number go up with no thought or skill required. Why are you pretending a comfy meal is anything other than what it is?
>>737788706There is if you are on PlayStation and don't have a PS+ subscription.
>>737789174sexo
>>737789664they added multiplayer in 2014, so maybe you played before then
>>737789771if you think those are the same you have no critical thinking or just feigning ignorance like a redditoryou're not worth replying to
>>737789820They are the same, your inability to articulate why they're not is also not unexpected.
>>737789771>Its number go upPoE is so much more complicated and open ended than that.
A neck snap? that's it? I expected her to eventually succumb to her injuries or madness but mephisto just barges in and kills her like that?Also, see this is the problem I have with diablo post diablo 2. Demons are immortal and they just keep coming back. what's the point of going though all the trouble of even fighting them.
>>737789737You can move and cast in PoE 2, are you playing with WASD?
>>737789881>PoE is so much more complicated and open ended than that.No it isn't but I invite you to try and prove otherwise.
>>737789896She was massively unliked by everyone this was the best way to get rid of her before the expansion
>had no problem figuring out Paladin when he came out because everything made sense on what it would synergise well with>accidentally made one of the best builds in the game and I'm not even good at the game>have no fucking idea what's going on with Warlock>just want to do some physical damage build and I assume I should be equipped with a 2H weapon
>>737789845>passive aggressive redditorit doesnt work on me bro, you're the one making baseless claims with no proof. fuck off retard go back to your delusional hug box
>>737789896demons are immortal so they can keep making games forever. thats the entire point
>>737789556>want to play a game where you just turn your brain off and see number go upHuh. Weird. I thought Diablo was a dungeoncrawler originally.>>737789706>no, most skills were viable until ultra end gameUntil Nightmare Act 2*
>>737789946What part of what I am claiming is baseless? You can 'solve' Diablo or PoE by just getting better gear through grinding. It is literally just a game where number go up then you win, rinse and repeat. If you want to see a comparison to a game with communication then you could look at Foxhole, if you want a game where you need actual skill you could look at fighting games. ARPGs are about sitting back not thinking and seeing things die as numbers go up, thats it. Pretending otherwise is just weird.
>>737789942>hype her up for the whole base game + expansion>just to kill her off in the expansion 2 cinematic like nothingThese devs are so retarded
>>737789991>I thought Diablo was a dungeoncrawler originally.Dungeon crawlers are diverse with their gameplay elements, typically having lots of navigation problems, traps and puzzles you have to interact and solve. Zelda is more of a dungeon crawler than iso ARPGs which are just grinding games.
>>737789920Of course. Moving while charging that spell feels like molasses. Putting aside the questionable hotbox, I'd much rather the character just shoot projectiles than having a long ass charging for so little reward. I get the overall design philosophy in PoE2 is to use skill X in conjunction with skill Y, but this makes several individual skills in the game just not fun to use, and it ultimately fails to avoid one button builds. I ended up just spamming bone cage.
>>737790054Whoever was shilling her inside Blizz obviously got told to fuck off and get rid of her. Thank god.
>>737789945You aren't meant to figure stuff out.You're meant to just copy everything from build guides.
>>737790054>>737789942There are easily many ways to get rid of her without making the player feel like shit for having wasted their time. This is why you should never listen to the community.
>disconnect>another queue
>>737790109>>737790120Yeah but this feels so cheap
>>737789945this video pretty much summed it uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZaEkqGJfr0Warlock is a synergy based class.
>>737790120>the player feel like shit for having wasted their timeSunk cost logic. She was a shit character, no one liked her, killing her means the story can move on.
>>737789924Diablo tends to have a lot more "item has xxx% damage/defense modifier" which is the preferable route. PoE has lot more utility or downsides for using a certain item, or support gems that significantly alter how a skill functions.
>>737790202Both are just number goes up.
>>737790180>Sunk cost logic.I mean it is. You wasted several hours doing last dlc to save her and they just kill her off. At least with Leah, she gets possessed and dies in the span of 1 or 2 quests so you just go yeah shit happens. They could have just made her some minor support npc that upgrades your stuff or made her go on a journey and it wouldn't changed a thing if she had no more relevance to the plot.
>>737790240>over confident retard / shitposter wasn't arguing in good faith to begin withClassic.
>>737790296>You wastedNo one cares about the story, they're playing for the gameplay.
>>737790330It is in good faith, the fact you want what is identical gameplay to be perceived differently so 'your' emotional attachment to a product is validated is the moronic take here. Both Diablo and PoE can be solved by grinding more, that is the literal point of the game. It is also why people play and enjoy them. If people didn't want this, they would remove gear progression entirely and you would have to win purely from using skills which do not scale with time spend grinding. This existed by the way its called Battlerite.
>>737790178>Summons wall>INSTANTLY shows how pointless this ability is as he throws spells through it and no enemies even reach the wallThis is called bad game design and its hilarious Blizzard is blind to it.
>queued for game - start game pending
>>737790417>>It is in good faith>>the fact you want what is identical gameplay to be perceived differently so 'your' emotional attachment to a product is validated is the moronic take here>clearly not in good faithYou argue like a woman.
>>737790487>ad hominemYou mean I argue correctly with impartial facts and objective analysis. But I accept your concession, this genre isn't for you.
>>737790334Yeah and that was the gameplay of VoH. You spend many hours going from point A to B on a wild goose chase and it becomes so insanely repetitive.>Lorath just goes in a monotone voice, oh neyrelle is dead. This mildly sucks.I know this fucker is some hardass, but at least show some emotion man.
>>737789945Wait Warlock has a two-handed melee build?I want to be a Hell Knight. Can you?
>>737789261>>737789304I may try D4 at some point but it doesn't look super appealing to me at the moment, D3 looks like shit to me and I've never heard a nice thing about it so I think I'll avoid it for now>titanquest>torchlightWill have a look at these>POE1/2I've got POE1 in my Steam library and I'm definitely planning to check it out soon, does POE2 ever get good sales? It's kinda cheap already so I might buy it anyway but I'm a stingy fuck so since I'm not touching it at least until I try a couple more D2 characters I'll wait for a sale if it does>>737789549>I don't think you would have enjoyed playing the Original D2 without all the modern updates and QoL in D2R.I can guarantee I would because I tried it while I was away from home with only my old laptop for a couple weeks and I still loved it
Demons can't be sexy now and must be put in grandma gowns?
>>737790667Well she has some tits at least
>>737790461It's going to be an end game skill no doubt, when the entire screen will be full of enemies so you need it there as some sort of static damage skill. PoE has similar skills where it's not there to stop enemies but slowly kill them while they're stuck or standing in place while you cast other skills.
>>737780646No Leah, no buy.
>>737790761she died a long time ago bro
>>737790178>Cant permanently turn into a demonNot buying
How long is the Lord of Hatred campaign? I'm debating on whether start a new character or play with a standard one. Also when is the new season starting?>>737790667Blizzard is too afraid to show sexy whamen nowadays. She's literally the succubus queen and they retcon'd it, as well as putting undies in every single succubus.
>>737790813gamers...wonand getting nickle and dimed
>>737790839heard it was around ten hours without skipping anything
>>737790886kek, literally looks like some drugged up pornactress
>>737790839new season started almost two hours ago
>>737790530>this genre isn't for youBut you just ousted two of the most quintessential hack and slash RPGs as being essentially brainless. If you're calling me a moron, wouldn't that mean this genre is suited to someone like me and that you shouldn't even be in these threads?
>>737790945All the faces in the game look like that lol
>>737790886>fridge torso>tranny face
>>737790945well, they wanted the warlock class to be heavy metal themed, so this checks out
>>737790975So is sitting on a nice beach. I suspect you're insecure and low IQ and are conflating your own issues onto others and don't even understand what I am talking about.
>90% of key characters are femaleLmao.
Is it worth buying if I don't want to engage with the online at all? just the offline experience
>>737790975>But you just ousted two of the most quintessential hack and slash RPGs as being essentially brainless.And?
>>737791004did they add new sets for the paladin?
>>737791079yeah, 99% of the playerbase plays it solo
>>737790180>killing her means the story can move on.There is no "the story".They make shit up on the fly. That is the whole problem with this cheap death.
>>737791079The online part of these games is entirely performative no one actually does it.
>going to a greek themed island with crazy cultists to enact/stop a prophecyThis is literally that one area in PoE2 turned into an entire act.
>>737791065Women are the real demons
>>737791125>>737791102Uh I thought everyone was caught in the skinnerbox endgame grind like in D3 doing endless neph rifts
>>737791162>men are the real monsters>women are the real demonswoah...
>>737791094don't think so. The new stuff on the shop is only warlock.
>>737791187You don't play PoE or Diablo with others it doesn't make anything more efficient.
>>737791079The forced online is just to shove FOMO MTX in players faceI joined a guild or clan or whatever and I have not once seen anyone type or say anything in over 3 months
>>737790603PoE 2 will most likely be releasing at the end of this year, it will be Free 2 Play then like the first game.There is a big beta update at the end of next month, and they usually do a free weekend, so you could try it out then.
>>737791063>I suspect you're insecure and low IQI know you do, you've established that. Now can you answer that simple question coherently?
>>737791221>humans are the real monsterholy shit.Did jurassic park 2 start this trope?
>>737791261>You don't play PoE with others it doesn't make anything more efficient.ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>737790178does every demon get a soulstone now? I thought that was incredibly unique and specific thing for containing the prime evils?
>>737791293Feel free to read the thread chain, or keep shitposting, either way you're clearly not interesting in proving how or why these games are anything but casual number go up simulators. So why waste your time posting? Here is your last reply.
I have never played coop in poe but playing with others in diablo is definitely the more fun part if you're gonna be mindlessly grinding through hundreds of mobs in the same tilesets over and over. Diablo was designed for that kind of mindless turn off your brain fun. It feels like playing musou in a way.
>>737790083you don't really grind in og diablo, though. the enemies don't even respawn.
>>737791427That isnt what the genre became though
>>737780646I bought D4 years ago but got bored quick. Do you have to pay for the patches like WoW xpacs or are they like poe leagues?And should I waste my time playing this?
I forgot to make my Warlock seasonal and just wasted two hours... What I can say about it so far, is that it starts out really slow, and it seems like it only starts getting interesting once you unlock the class feature. Could be fun later down the line I guess, but for now Ill start over as a Paladin. Have any of the old classes gotten some significant reworks or cool stuff with the new skill-tree?
I'm playing D2, the real one. Does the remake add anything really? I don't care about online play.I'd rather not restart from scratch.
Rate my Barb's look, /v/ros
>>737791369It varies in size and power but kinda yes. The original soulstones used to trap the prime evils were shattered but over time newer soulstones were made and much less durable than the previous ones. For example, the soulstone used to trap astaroth when used to trap mephisto, can only hold him for a few days or weeks before it starts leaking out and corrupting everything around it. The original soul stones could technically trap the prime evils forever as long as they were sealed properly.
>>737789172ARPGs have moved on really far from D2 but whether that's a good thing depends on who you ask. The most "Diablo but modern" game is Grim Dawn which is getting an expansion... sometime this coming year, hopefully so you could start that.
>>737791592looks like a sex offender with that stash.
>>737791592gotta trim that stache a bit
>>737791532true, but the other anon was talking about Diablo 'originally' being a dungeon crawler. which it may or may not be, depending how you define dungeon crawler. it was definitely a lot slower paced and more methodical than everything that came after it, at any rate.
>>737791870Diablo 1 and some part of Diablo 2 were indeed dungeon crawlers. Arguably, that is what PoE2 is and probably what people hate the most about it. A single map in PoE2 is like quadruple the size of a normal map in Diablo 2. It's like if someone took the Act 3 maps and made them triple in size.
>Diablo took over a church and is chilling>warrior goes down there and kicks his ass and he turns into a ruby>the warrior has the absolute grandest idea to shove said ruby in his forehead>Diablo comes back because obviously>this time you kill his brothers too for good measure>oops here's the reality binding gem we gotta destroy it for some reason no you don't get to see the consequences the endThat's all I know of Diablo lore.
>>737791592>tattoos
>Male Warlock looks cool>but all of the armor makes him look like a fag>Female Warlock has shitty face (like all Diablo IV women)>but looks way better in Warlock armorThere always has to be some gotcha with Diablo IV characters.
>>737791592looks like he big angy cuz he shat his undies
>game features hot demon milf>does not feature romance and/or sex with hot demon milfI hate this trend. First it happened with Darksiders and now with Diablo. Maybe I'm a horny retard with no grasp of game design but I wouldn't throw in a hot demon mommy without at least giving the player the option to do seggs.
>>737791970yeah what a slut
>>737791965im pretty sure all three heroes were corrupted by Diablo before even the end of the first game
>>737791965You know more than my 12 year old wee lad brain
>>737791587D2R is basically perfect. There really isnt a reason to play the original anymore unless you want to use some obscure mods.
>>737791965>we gotta destroy it for some reasonBaal corrupted the Worldstone and was going to turn Sanctuary (Earth) into his own personal super gay demon realm so it was just a case of blowing it up and hoping for the best since the alternative was much worse
>>737791378Man, you are boring even at shit talking. This isn't the first time I've seen you in these threads either, I recognized your writing style. Why do autistic weirdos like you infest threads on games you don't even like but also have nothing of substance to say?
>>737792117Losing all my items seems like a pretty bad deal.I'm using the plugy thing and it's all working fine.I usually watch things at the same time so the resolution is fine.If it's basically the same thing I don't see the point.
>>737792154>super gay demon realmBaal was kind of a fag, wasn't he? What was up with that? Like just thinking about the way he says 'proposal', you can tell he's sucked some dicks in his time.
>>737792117>D2R is basically perfectthey ruined it with the warlock update
>>737791575answer me fags
>>737792154>Baal corrupted the Worldstone and was going to turn Sanctuary (Earth) into his own personal super gay demon realmAnd what did actually happen after blowing it up?
>>737792242so it's not the same as the original?
>>737792269The world turned cartoony into discount World of Warcraft for a bit.
>>737792242This
Wait is it cool to like Diablo again?
>you're in a ship and helping a bunch of pirates/prisoners/sailors fighting sea monsters and the likeMan, they really are chasing after the path of exile crowd with this one.I'm actually liking it so far. PoE's aesthetics imo just mogs diablo.
>>737791160>greek themed island with crazy cultistsnigger that's fucking Titan Quest. You really think GGG invented ANYTHING? Also Skovos has been in the lore for literally over 25+ years
>>737792263>>737791575You pay for expacs.
>>737792360Always has been. Only POE giga autists hate diablo and pretty much every single ARPG. Every time a new general for an ARPG is made they raid it and start spamming how shit the game is with copypastas or gay porn to nuke threads and make people leave.
>>737792449titan quest has the worst gameplay of any ARPG
>>737791587The dungeons in D2 are much darker in terms of light radius and have a lot more unique tiles. There's bisected women in the Lut Gohlen sewers. The animations are really smooth too.Supposedly they did a couple minor skill balances to give Barbarians a reason to actually use throwing axes, but I've never seen it.
>>737792360yep D4 GUD.Diablo is for gigachads who have sex IRL with hot women.
why does my female necromancer look like a man????
>>737792597irrelevant opinion, has nothing to do with the previous statements.
>>737792753post screenshot
>>737792753warlock got it too. dabbling in the dark arts seems to sap you of your femininity.
>>737792412oh fucking come on. They also copied the way bosses in PoE2 spaz around like in a soulslike and turn the screen into a bullet hell. D4 is not designed to be a rollslop game. I hope this is not an indicator of other bosses.
>>737781175I didn't even make it to the first boss. Shit was just all wrong.
>femlock is literally a troon>femnec at leas has hips and a woman's faceNecro dominance...
>>737792958femlock at least has tits.
>>737792753Her chest is incredibly flat
>skovos isles>the main npcs are amazons>no amazon classThey really should have waited for the warlock class until Diablo.
>>737781817Name 1 thing better
>>737793101anal hoe phenotype not gonna lie
>>737793235it's not as tedious to play for one. Also, unironically handles the mtx better. Granted PoE 2 is designed to f2p so it's how they make money but it's still disgusting how much GGG makes you pay for virtually everything.
Fucking SLUT.
is this game an isometric crpg like divinity original sin 2?
>>737793361spiritborn is great. All her outfits are just bikinis.
I dont remember the music being so good before, what changed
>>737793361>footslutsigh, why is blizzard like this?
>>737793404no, it's an arpg like Divine Divinity
>>737780646Is D4 worth getting if I want an action time killer game to play with my gf?
Not sure if this was here before but it looks like they updated the map. Westmarch/khanduras soon. Xiansai is also on the top.
>shill threads convinced me>decide to try d4 again>2 hours in reminded im forced to look at people’s shitty cash shop cosmetics and mounts>uninstallyeah i remember why i dont play blizz games anymore
>>737793462Speaking of the music, I do find it funny how base D4 incorporated so much of the D2 music for memberberry moments. Eveytime Mephisto was in a scene, the tristram and Act 1 music would play.
>>737793278>handles the mtx betterthis guy asked you whats better and you said MTX LMFAO
*siiiipppppp*Yea I think I'll just keep waiting for Titan Quest 2. I ain't giving Blizzard a cent of my money.
>>737793654>2 hours in reminded im forced to look at people’s shitty cash shop cosmetics and mounts
>>737793873the normalization and general acceptance of cosmeticmicrotransactions is the greatest tragedy of modern gaming. kill yourself jew worshipper
I have not played since release what has even changed? Other than new classes of course
>>737793868will never reach the unreachable heights of titan quest 1, already the enemies don't drop the stuff that they're wearing in tq2 like they did in tq1
>>737793839Well if you want a clear answer, I like the melee, balance and game flow better than in PoE 2. PoE is very very meta driven If you don't know what you're doing, it's very easy to brick your build by investing on the wrong skill nodes and gear, and enemies become a wall you cannot get through, especially since the game has both skillchecks and gearchecks, primarily the latter. The entire game is also very tedious to traverse and people have been complaining about this for 2 years and the devs have yet to make any improvements on it. Going through a map still feels like finding a needle in a haystack. Also, just a personal preference but I prefer helltides over mapping.
>>737792303kek
>>737792717>who have sex IRL with hot women.Like Megan Fox
>>737793101>Paragon 285You fucking no-life NERD
>>737793361>>737793404>spiritborn is great. All her outfits are just bikinis.Too bad her face looks like a Karen soccermom
Is paladin fun? It's the only reason I was thinking of picking this shit up again. POE 2 still doesn't have fucking Templar.
>>737793868I'll play D4 while waitingFangs of Asterkarn any day now
>>737794263just put a helmet on her.Warlock so far is pretty great. Feels like a cross between witch doctor and sorc. The meat SFX carries it hard so far. It was one of my issues with base classes where the skills felt limpdicked and weightless.
>>737794290Zeal/inquisitor pally is. You can play very aggressive compared to traditional paladin builds where you just cast holy magic from afar.
Bros, what the fuck happened to my skilltree and build? Wtf. None of the numbers are what I'm used to anymore.
>>737794564All the skilltrees got reworked bro. They are completely different. You need to play new builds.Also the items changed, the gems are COMPLETELY different now and level cap is 70.
>>737780646>not even 30kWhat went right?
>>737780646when you go can you stay there? thanks.
>>737794216
>>737793941you’re the dumbfuck that installed the game and forgot that you’re too fragile to cope with seeing MTX in a nu-blizzard gamefucking retard lmao
warlock transmogs are occultkino.
Any tips for starting the game and playing in co-op?
>>737794741Diablo is a niche game like Marathon.
>>737794317>Fangs of Asterkarn any day nowbased based based based
Should I play Paladin or Warlock?
>>737794832micolash?
>>737795127do you want a warrior with magic or a sorceror/summoner
>>737795127Barbarian
>>737794987Yeah. Play the game and use buttons to attack enemies.What the fuck are you asking?
>>737794741>60k if you include BNetHonestly I was expecting way worse. Surprised people still fall for the Blizzard hype cycle.
>>737795349>BNetThey show their CCUs now?
>heard skill tree finally got updated>it's just d3 runes with even less variety
>>737795349it's not really a hype cycle. Live service games nowadays just have this cycle where people play during new season/patch drops then petter out. Like i will play d4 since new content is out, then stop after I get bored then play poe 2 next when the new season drops. It's not a meme that people nowadays have a live service rotation and companies are aware of this.
Paladin is kind of lame...
I haven't played in a year how do you upgrade potions now alchemist doesn't do it
Warlock is pretty fun when you realize summoning demons is mid but their abyss spells are great
>>737795424BNet having the same players as Steam is a conservative estimate. I play D2R and it had a big playerbase despite not being on Steam for like 5 years.
AIIIEEEE LILITH HELP ME
>have to finish the god foresaken vessel of hatred campaign before starting the new oneReeee
>>737795787You can see her feet
>>737795816You can skip it anon.
>AAAAAA!>HELP ME, IMPERIUS!
Mephisto in the cinematics has not been scary or intimidating but the opposite.He's now too humane. He gets flustered, frustrated and showed fear that his ass would turn to grass by angels
>>737795882Imperious was always the potential man of the angels.
>>737795876Yeah but I never played it so I feel like I should at least once.
>>737795932You really literally miss 0 the campaign has a recap of the shit that happened in vessel and the story is bugfuck retarded bad.
Personal pet peeve but I do hate the models for these ghosts. The game reuses them a fuckton and they don't even bother making them look any different or unique. That's not even remotely what a banshee looks like. PoE really spoiled me on how varied the enemy designs were.
Can I do a Thorns build on Warlock?
Why can't Westerners help themselves? There has to at least be ONE demon that's noble and sympathetic. Is this some libshit thing?
>>737795885this shot was kino thoughbeit. Looks like something out of a kojima/del toro movie.The cinematics really go hard in this game.
>>737780646rofl
>>737795967I payed for the game, I'm going to play the game.
>>737796014It would be anti-semitic to depict all demons as bad
>>737792303lul
>>737796014Easterners have been doing that for a long time too though? More so in fact, since their mythology has no concept of outright good and evil like in abrahamic religions. And which demon are you talking about?
>>737796081OK
>>737782095Let's see>no wasd movement >no endgame >no character customization Nope, D2R is fucking trash.
I will continue to play Grimdawn.
>>737796014What mythology DOESN'T treat demons as neutral chaotic at absolute best?
nevermind. They added a new variant with more skeletal features. That's new i guess.
HOLY SHIT FUCK THE CAMPAIGN JUST LET ME SKIP THIS SHIT AND PLAY THE GAME I"M JUST WALKING AROUND DOING FUCKING NOTHING I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT DIABLO LORE IN 2026
>>737796295Pretty sure the concept of demons as being purely evil came from abrahamic religion because it was what had the concept of shaitan or the enemy. In greek myth, the underworld was neutral on things. Death was simply a fact of existence and people respected and feared it, along with the denizens that dwelled in its realms. In other myths and religions, demons or their counterparts were fickle spirits that need to be given offerings or tribute so that they stop messing with you, like a kid that needs to be bribed with candy.
>>737796438You VILL play ze campaign goyim
I am once again asking how to upgrade potions
the only thing this dogshit game had going for it was lilith
>>737789771>PoE and Diablo are the sameI swear this board alone has the biggest concentration of dunning kruger dipshits on the entire web
>>737796559Pretty sure you can't? This isn't poe.Also, is there no generator for dominance as warlock? I want to spam the brute summon
>>737796610>run around clicking on enemies mindlesslyIt's the same game anon.
what is the most satisfying Paladin archetype?
>>737796764hammerdin
>>737796764World of warcraft, retribution spec circa wrath of lich kign
>>737796929Most fun paladin in any game ever
>>737796764zealot
>>737796741>le reductionist argumentyes, and hell let loose is the same game as call of duty because you're pointing and clicking on targets with your mouse. fucking retard
>>737796980>>737796929>>737796868The ult that turns you into an angel sounds cool I'm just gonna do all the disciple stuff
>>737796741>clicking>mouse in the Big '26
>>737792016>but all of the armor makes him look like a fagand mexican
>>737796559they removed it. it’s always a 35% recover now.
>>737797047Sorry, I didn't mean to be ableist.
>>737792016Thankfully all the femwarlock helmets cover your face.
>>737780646
Okay, I'm a little annoyed because I havent' played this game since the original launch, skipped VoH, and got this one. And I picked it up again about a week ago to remember how things worked, and I was just starting to get the hang of it again properly and things were coming together, and now they have fundamentally changed a bunch of stuff for apparently no reason. I should have just started and picked it up again today and played with the new systems.
>>737797104looks like chris angels if he had a beard.
Okay well played. I knew Mephisto would use an illusion to make Lorath kill her but didn't expect they'd go straight with the false jesus persona and have him resurrect her.
>>737790945the fuck are they supposedto look like, it's a devil musou game
I saw druid could turn into a giant storm crow but I cant find a thing about how anywhere
>>737797487I saw a stormcrow druid fly over my house just now
>>737797038Dunno if they nerfed it but last season it was brokenly OP. You passively just nuked everything with your wings.
>>737797154wow gay
Summon Barb is weird but fun
>>737780646>Catch up with the lore>Drink for every time you see STRONK WOMEN to fucking DIE.>"Somehow Mephisto has returned".>"It gets good 3000 hours in promise" - Comment SectionMaybe if they had kept the doom crossover running until August and Doom had added Diablo inspired items to it as well, but I don't care too much about Dark Ages either. Crazy Image comics hasn't sue because Doom DA stole Spawn's medieval chainsaw shield, it also went Whiiiirrrrrrr.As for diablo, I am guessing they are setting up that the titular character will appear in his own fucking game in another two years?
>>737797637>character will appear in his own fucking game in another two years?Yes because they are now building up dlcs for each prime evil. Baal is next.
>>737797570they gave up on it and made life on hit better, so just try to get those on your gears
Still wondering why Paragon Boards aren't the grindable item. Like cluster jewels for PoE. Maybe use currency to reroll parts of the board?
It's amazing how completely uninterested I am in a new Diablo game
>>737797802Nah, they should change it so you level up the board/socket rather than the individual glyphs and then make the glyphs more interesting and turn them into an item chase
>>737797676>Tyrael is a NIGGER.
>switch to Paladin defensive aura>literally don't feel any tankier at all
>>737788216>>737788262Reminds me of that quote from nuDOOM saying "Remember, 'demon' can be an offensive term. Refer to them as 'mortally challenged". Now in DOOM it was making fun of faggots like that, It's gay because in Diablo it's supposed to be serious.
>>737790667blessed mother save us
>Every male character that is not a joke is a nigger.>women carry the plot>Inarius is a crying wojak>Tyrael is a nigger>Disney Star Wars Tier writing.>Gameplay is shit too.>$399 USD + TipI HATE THE CCPI HATE THE CCPIHATETHECCPIHATETHECCPIHATETHECCPIHATETHECCPGenuinely kill yourselves for shilling this shit game.
>>737789019Marketing attempt to gooks and koreans, but Blizzard was too balls deep in development to pull out of this clearly scuffed and disliked gimick.
>remember watching my cousin play d1 or 2 back in the 2000s>tried d3 back around launch>make a dude, help clear the entrance to a village of zombies>get sent into a dungeon, find an old man>fight a huge boss demon>lost all interestgrim dawn didn't last long for me either but i played a van hellsing game for a while
>>737798207>>737788216that line is from an npc from the skovos isles debating with a guy. Granted their entire deal is that they see their bloodline stemming from lilith so they see them as higher beings, not different to how some cultures also try to placate feyfolk or demons. The game doesn't change the fact that demons are still hostile and largely evil considering you fight them all the time.
>>737789172D2R PD2 (mod)SacredShining Soul 2 (GBA)
>>737789172You played the best, now try Grim Dawn and you are done.Torchlight is by the same devs as Diablo 2 and it is meh.Diablo 3, Immortal and 4 are all dogshit.I have been close to pulling the trigger on D4 on multiple occasions but Blizzard can't help itself.
>>737789172D2 is such a unique and godly experience that many people still call ARPGS diablo-likes, so finding that exact feeling will be impossible, but you can get close. I guess Titan Quest is really good, but it's singleplayer only and you literally just eat the campaign and reroll a new character since there's no endgame if you care about that. Torchlight 1 and 2 are ok but honestly really outdated so I'd skip them. Grim Dawn is also good, but becomes great if you interact with the crafting system at all. PoE is probably the closest you'll get to D2, but it's an insanely complex game too.
Base game>we need Mephisto help to defeat LilithExpac>we need Liliths help to defeat MephistoClown setting
>>737798340That is like saying you watched your cousin play Halo 2 so you started at Halo 5.You played the second worst game in the series and the difference between Diablo 2, which existed in Blizzard's golden age, to the shit they have done in the past 16 years is vast.
>>737797973But boards have more chance to have like neat combos/thematics I think. This is off the top of my head. I think Paragon boards have huge potential and glyphs definitely need to be more exciting too.
hey brought back the guy. I member him
>>737791592Looks like he's hittin the grumpy Thragg cause someone stile his wife's son.
>>737798658Who?
>>737798731gargantuan beast from d2
>>737798731
>>737798731Gargantuan beasts from diablo 2.
>>737796741>run around clicking on enemies mindlesslySo every PC game ever made.
>>737798624They probably deeply regret killing her off.
How are there no new skills for the old classes? Why are stuck doing the exact same thing?
>>737798624>Demons are LE GOOD?>Angels are LE BAD?The only good character in the entire shitshow is NotJesusChrist who is also Aslan from Narnia.Mephisto taking over his body to deceit humanity is at least a decent plot tweeest.
Enjoy the little hype you have diablo sissies, POE2 0.5 is going to have swords/full endgame rework aka the thing people have been asking for the most for over a year. Come May 7th and eventually May 22th, this game will have virtually no one playing.
>>737793462The music was always pretty good. D4 is just THAT shit of a game that people can't stand it long enough to get immersed and listen.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P45Jxwxpackhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVAi6JRSjRMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwTJ5Yuesq0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfc6cS4FDTM
>>737780646Mephisto's redesign is so shit
>>737798912there seems to be an endgame rework for every poe2 patch
What the fuck do you even do in Diablo?
>>737798968It's mediocre desu.It would not be out of place in Skyrim or any generic medieval game.
I always have a problem with these kinds of games where you are unfathomably OP but the story treats you like you're barely notable. Like the knights in either the base game or VOH, like. Bro. I single handedly beat Lilith, oh, she was weak? I also beat andariel and duriel, in fact when I killed Duriel I just did it in passing and canonically barely even recognized he might be a really strong demon.It's like the skyrim problem cranked up to 100.
>>737799051Skyrim has one of the best soundtracks in any rpg my dude. People still remember secunda for example for how iconic it is.
>>737799051>It would not be out of place in SkyrimAh yes, the game well known for it's mediocre soundtrack, right?
>>737798892Why would they get one? I don't remember a patch that gave major reworks to old characters. Like the D2R dlc didn't touch them at all. Same with in D3.
>>737799038Kill niggasLoot niggas so you can kill stronger niggasrepeat this over and over until you're bored
>>737799038Kill dudesget bigger numbers by killing themKill dudesget bigger numbers by killing them
>>737799167D2 and D3 expansions gave all classes a bunch of new skills...
>>737793462>>737798968Music in skovos is pretty good. I'm in the oracle part and the music somewhat reminds me of this from ar tonelico 2.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai2hDNgXeLE
>>737799170>>737799201is there any RPing between killing niggas? the series is described as an RPG
>>737799249No? It's a hack and slash. If you're referring to the term arpg, that's because people can't decide on what to call games with rpg numbers that also aren't turn based.
>>737799249You mean like dialogue or story choices? Nah, it's pure gameplay.
>>737799249Lol no you're thinking of RPGs. ARPGs are just slot machines.
Has the new expansion made it where it's easier to roll ancestrals with new systems or is that still a shitty system of RNG in place? I spent far too long trying to build my build last season because I couldn't get Ancestrals I needed to drop, just 750 versions, so my build suffered as a result since I'm new and stupid and figure 50 item power is worth more than the uniques.
I haven't played since D4 originally launched.Is it worth it?
>>737799138>Ah yes, the game well known for it's mediocre soundtrack, right?Yes. Do you know of any other Skyrim?Develop some actual taste anon.
>>737799312Nope
>>737799075Like, who the FUCK does this guy think he is to even speak to me?
Jesus christ I unlocked the hammers orbit around you paladin rune and my damage skyrocketed
>>737799312I like the maps in the expansions a lot more than in the base game so far, if that's what you're asking. The russia section honestly really not what the game started with. It was the worst zone.
>>737799312Nah. So far the new systems are a tiny step in the right direction. D4 might unironically be playable in 10 years, but not now.
>>737799376You kill him like a bitch later on least. Nearly mortally killing you with a stab was so lame though.
>>737799376Nah this bothered the fuck out of me too>Killed Lilith and a fuck ton of powerful and awe inspiring demons>Some crispy nigga nearly murders you because ???But VoH's story was pure dogshit so
>>737799330>Do you know of any other Skyrim?The one with bussin musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK4JSwhdcdE
>>737799376>>737799486>Coolest design in the entire game>Fucking dies>We are back with Debrah WilsonWhy are all the men in this game pathetic?
>>737799312No, D4 is genuinely trash compared to POE2 and POE2 isn't even a complete game yet.
>>737799451>>737799486I know, it's just ridiculous of anybody here to even remotely get on my bad side and it makes no sense that they would>Aaaah, yes, surely my fort of burnt knights will protect me from the single person who absolutely massacres entire armies of demons effortlessly and has killed a bunch of the lesser evils (a continent level thread according to lorath)I can understand antagonists having ulterior motives, and maybe trying to manipulate the Diablo protags into doing bad things, but any of the non-cosmic entities directly opposing, or actively incurring the wrath of the MC is completely insane. And not just in a "well it's a videogame so of course we know the protagonist eventually wins". The wanderer/nephilim/etc's feats are so over the top that it's ridiculous.
There's no way that they're keeping Inarius dead, right?His story is Lucifer.It's like ending Paradise Lost without him becoming Satan.
>>737799642>dogshit is trash compared to dogshitStellar observationGo play that game insteadOh wait
>>737799592That merc leader with the shield was chill though?
>all the ggg shills itt seething at D4's success You lost
>>737799692At the most, they might make him the focus of a new expansion as Malthael 2.0 or something, but he was kind of a noncharacter in the base game so I doubt it.
>>737799692Man, I hope so. Inarius was such a loser.
>>737799735The funny part is that the GGG shills also hate PoE2. They want PoE1.I play both because they're nice to play once in a while in between game releases.
>>737799735GGG? What does a european gangbang/bukkake website have to do with anything?
>>737799787ARPGs kinda lose me when they become meat grinders with massive amounts of particle effects on screen.
>>737799860ok
>>737799735What success? Literally no one ever talks about Diablo 4, anywhere. It’s a dead game held afloat by whales who buy every $60 cosmetic bundle
>people talking shit about D4 saying PoE2 is better>meanwile the CCU at the launch of this expac peaked at 3.8 million on b.netOh lawd...
>>737799167Why would you not get a new skill? Do you really expect to get nothing with an expansion? The last one had new skills.
>>737780646About to start the game for the first time blind on hardcore. What am I in for?
>>737799930You can talk all you want but it is making money.>whales who buy every $60 cosmetic bundleThat's incredibly ironic considering you're defending poe.
>>737798968>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P45JxwxpackWas this song always in the game? It gets really good a minute in. Like really really good.
>>737800005Just play seasonal brother hardcore isn't worth the inevitable suffering.
What is stopping ARPGs like Diablo and PoE to be more like lost ark? Is a lost ark-like with interesting item drops not possible?
>>737800005>first time blind>hardcoreC'mon bro, don't do this to yourself, it's not fun.
>>737800020>game is popular because of new content patchI mean, that's to be expected. PoE2 0.5 is going to to replace D4 in that spot when it launches.
mobile slop uiskills have 0 weightcampaign has been patched outmeh
>LILITH GOODwho the fuck is the self-insert that shoved this nonsense in
>Diablo kids got cocky>GGG are about to obliterate them by releasing 4 new classesI can't wait
>>737800384Its been like this forever poe2 chads will win again as alwaysD4 is the Dadslop low iq mobile dopamine rush game
>>737800384Path Of Exile is dogshit
>GGJeets are getting testyvery insecure cult of losers
>>737800238>The penalty of dying on softcore results in -10% durabilityHow is that fun?
>>737800340I mean that's a given. It's like how games like marvel rivals routine swap places with other games whenever a new season or skin comes out. I will be playing poe 2 0.5 comes out but for now I'm playing d4 since there's nothing else to play
>>737800384I mean it's not hard for POE2 to just dunk on D4, the game is already miles better than D4 and 0.5 will is just pure rape for all other arpgs in the genre.
I want to be friends with the demons.
Warlock summons feel pretty weak. It's just spamming Tortured Wretch and having them tank while you spam chains
>>737780646Nobody cares
>>737800465>>737800384where are people like you whenever poe2 gets a new patch? I got to /poeg/ and it's just people doomposting about pooe2 and blaming jonathan.
>Diablo vs PoE>two_retards_fighting.movYou're all shit eaters playing inferior copies of Diablo 2, develop some fucking taste already and leave this unevolved uncslop genre in the past where it belongs.
>>737800592kek you just outed the viral marketers
>>737800643Yeah but I'm the bigger and stronger retard.
>>737800592It's just shills.
>>737800592>>737800647/poeg/ is a circlejerk of poe1 fags that won't stop complaining until poe2 is just poe1 with better graphics. Only retards lurk there. Diablo is so dead they can't even sustain a general on /vg/.
>>737800592>where are people like you whenever poe2 gets a new patch?Playing the game
>mission where you go inside your soul and try to speak to lilith>it plays exactly like guy trying to reach out with his ex after a nasty break upkeklmao
>>737800643D2 is uncslop trash, go to bed gramps.
D4 is basically Diabo Immortal
>>737800745immortal wishes it has d4's art design
>>737800384>new classes>its all the same 1 button mashing Lol
>>737800765But its the same? Also >diablo 4>artstyleBoth are horrible mobile Slop Tier anon
>>737800765They both look like Korean MMOs. Especially UI and MTX
>>737800643das rite, real OGs be playin Last Epoch
>>737800801>>737800805UI/UX is different from art design. The world and aesthetics is unironically great.
>>737800960
>>737800379No clue, but is here to stay it seems
>>737800960Too bright>>737801023Can't see shitPoe 2 has made these same environments considerably better
>>737800960Too bad all you see is the horrible mobile tier ui
Are they stupid?
>>737801106From the studio that brought you "IF WE KILL THE SCOURGE WE'LL BE JUST LIKE THEM"
>>737801106I don't know the context cause I'm not wasting money on this pile of shit, but I imagine they respect demons in the same way a man respects a wild tiger.
>>737801072I like the more gothic horror parts of d4. There are places where both poe 2 and d4 look similar aesthetic wise, especially in dungeons.
>>737801106Aren't demons in general quite hostile to humans? Event Lilith isn't exactly all sugar and rainbows
>>737801106>>737801214>>737801213Those people in skovos, being the land of creation, know that man came from both demon and angel.
>>737801238>>737801214yes it's respect in the same way that arabs respected djinn, or the irish respected the fairfolk, which is to say, not provoke them.
>>737801218for example, the opening part in the dlc, you literally could tell me that this is PoE and I would have believed you.
>>737800785but enough about PoE 1 AND 2. I like how Diablo makes you use 6x the skills as Jonathan's giant turgid turd
Alright blizzshits, you got me with the Red Mage outfit.
I can't believe I bought POE 2 for $60 because I thought the game would have a future...
>>737801732Same
how are the updates to the rogue and sorc skill trees?
>>737802217haha...
