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>Walk into a casino and play a pair of silk panties like a violin
>People stop playing slots and throw money at me instead
>Mascot doesn't like my music so he beats me to death
>???
>Profit
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>>737781518
Are we allowed to Elin post now?
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>>737781889
is it not a game?
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>>737781969
I'm not arguing against it being a game. For whatever reason, these threads would get shut down fairly quick when the game first came out. I need to jump back in it since i haven't played in quite some time now
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>>737781518
What the fuck am I supposed to be doing in this game?
I'm so lost
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Anything been added? I was into this when it came out but progress seems so fucking glacial.
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I haven't played in quite a while. Has anything particularly significant been added?

>>737781969
Yes, that's the problem. /v/ is for twitter screencap ragebait threads. If people talk too much about a videogame, posters shit themselves in anger and demand that the threads be banished to another board, and the mods usually comply.

>>737782516
Don't worry too much about it. Focus on whatever you find enjoyable, and things will probably work out in the end. You'll eventually discover that you were making things harder on yourself by doing tons of retarded inefficient crap, but that's fine.
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>>737782682
he's too busy playing slay the spire 2
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haven't played since around when it came out
is the game still focused around farming for progression?
did it get more reasonable to ignore mukbanging for stat grinds?
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>>737781969
General threads belong on /vg/.
Unfun, unfinished Japsludge garbage like Elin belongs on /jp/.
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>>737784121
no
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>>737782516
Get a younger sister companion and marry her. Or an undead younger sister companion and marry her if you're feeling a little kinky
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this seems like a game you only buy on a sale but it never goes on sale.
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>>737784558
has marriage been added?
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>>737785110
You can marry now, yes.
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>>737785256
Has the full featured interactive sex system been added yet?
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>>737784919
it's worth the price
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>>737782682
Huh? The last few months have had a ton of shit release.
>Marriage including ceremonies
>Questlines
>Lots of NPC and enemy types with unique behaviors like serial killers, mimics, crazy rich people
>A whole system for getting women to breastfeed you
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>>737785729
>A whole system for getting women to breastfeed you
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>>737783439
fug
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>>737781889
Yes
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>>737785729
>A whole system for getting women to breastfeed you
im sorry what
i need to update this fucking game now
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>>737785729
>A whole system for getting women to breastfeed you
qrd?
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>>737785729
see this is the shit that makes me wait till the game is done i wanna play it so bad but i don't want to miss shit
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>>737781889
you have to disguise it under a thin veil of horse gacha girls for it to be allowed here
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>>737787324
you can get women to breastfeed you
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>>737788239
without mods?
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>>737784919
It's the kind of game you either play for hundreds of hours or you get filtered and drop it quickly.
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>>737788239
Oppai loli Gwen canonized
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>>737789575
yes, check latest news post
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>>737784919
Tranny Tynan and the Factorio Fag have done irreparable damage to the indie games market.
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>eat travel rations
>have bad stats
>start growing mushrooms because /v/ said so
>have bad stats
I was memed
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>>737791790
Nobody says to grow mushrooms for stats. You grow mushrooms for bait which results in money, fish with actually good stats, statues, coins, etc.
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I think having to get trained to level up skills SUCKS
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>>737791790
I remember this nigger was going into year four still eating grass
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>>737791993
i think it only sucks because like a lot of things in this game, if you were to disregard metagaming like using wiki, you'd be wandering around lost and wasting your time so much.
i think it's fine that classes and races start with skills and an inherent lack of others, whilst being as the game is essentially an infinite sandbox, you CAN go tag every skill eventually.

plus... its balanced like complete shit of course. just say goodbye to half your dungeon loot for example, as there's no way you'll keep your lockpicking skill up to pace.
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>>737791993
Your first character is going to be bad if you're playing blind. You need to learn to accept this.
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>>737792408
i have never had a dungeon chest that i couldn't pick
just craft a couple training chests
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>>737791905
You get a better yield for bait via the food arrow decomposition for corpses method
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>>737792571
It's easy to keep up with the curve early on. It becomes a pain in the ass as you start pushing deep in the Void.

That's one of the problems with the game in general right now. There is no way to efficiently level skills beyond a certain point so most of your skill levels come from equipment. You don't pick complex end-game locks by training your lockpicking, you get the necessary skill levels with a lockpicking equipment set. Hopefully supplementary skill leveling system are added later.
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can I kill everything in the game
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>>737792571
You are clearly not pushing deeper into difficult nefia then. I have to have a lockpicking set on me at all times to keybind hotswap with on a moment.
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So how do you exactly raise your stats faster? I've been playing a little under 30 hours and I've been grinding mushrooms -> fish -> cook fish and put bonito flakes on or turn bonito flakes into wine for like the last 10 hours and haven't made much progress. I did get a cyclops and carbuncle though so I'm a little unsure what to do now
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>>737796873
Does bonito flake wine even work anymore?
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>>737796873
Increase potentials. Potentials are a multiplier on EXP rate.
Pay attention to what food you eat, and shell out platinum coins to trainers.
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>>737785729
don't forget like 3 races (centaur,vampire,slime)
>>737787324
noa added a baby potion to the blonde witch in myselia that lets you suck tiddies
also if you worship horome you can just suck tiddies whenever you want from whoever you want because if they say no it's religious intolerance or something
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>>737796873
basically, you need to decide on which stats you want to focus on. I'd recommend an attack stat (DEX/STR/PER/MAG), END and maybe WIL and/or CHA.
Then you start breeding shrooms, keep them apart. You want to raise base level shrooms until you get seeds that raise each of these stats' potentials (so a STR potential seed, a END potential seed, etc). Then you raise small patches of these shrooms (I do 5x5 patches), grinding the farming skill until they get +X potential lvl 7. (At around farming skill 35-40)
Next you want a cooking pot or a cauldron. Grind cooking until level 12 or so until you learn the vegetable soup recipe. It should use 3 types of vegetables in it plus one kind of meat. Now you can use any of these shrooms are a vegetable, meaning you can have a food with three of these super shrooms. You then mix and match the shrooms as desired.
Once you have more skill levels on cooking, you can start mixing bones + bones on the grinder for bone powder. Make an oven, use this bone powder to make bread. Hammer the bread to get back a random type of flour. You can do this on repeat to learn new bread recipes until you learn soft and fluffy bread that can use something like one meats and 2 cheeses.
At this point, you capture/buy a dodo. Level 1 monster, real easy to find. THEN you recruit someone capable of reviving others (like a bartender). You bring both of them to your house as citizens. You kill the dodo, get it's meat, pay the 20 or so money to revive it since it's lvl 1 ergo real fucking cheap, you rinse and repeat for infinite meat glitch.
You use the grinder to turn the meat into kibbles (mix it with bark), then you put it on a cheese board to make kibble meat.
Now you have a bread capable of having 3 or 4 times the effect of the doddo meat (strength exp like +30 or something ridiculous.)

THEN you advance the plot until you unlock the item printer NPC and have him clone this uber food.
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>>737785729
>>A whole system for getting women to breastfeed you
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>>737797137
>if you worship horome you can just suck tiddies whenever you want from whoever you want because if they say no it's religious intolerance or something
Why can't that be a real religion
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>>737782516
First time I played I was lost too. I ended up hanging myself instead of hanging some other tard.
Pretty fun.
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i last played in july of 2025
what's changed since?
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>>737796873
Early on your stat growth is going to suck because you don't have any good recipes and you don't have your farms set up. You're legitimately better off checking innkeepers/butchers/bakers/etc every time you stop by a town and buying out their stock of decent food(you can find some pretty good stuff with level 10+ stat traits even very early in the game.)

Once you get the Gourmet feats and you get access to recipes with 3+ good ingredients is when you can start min/maxing your cooking for stat gains.
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>>737783808
>6h no response
so yes?
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>>737798702
Food is where most of your stat exp comes from. There's also a mod that gives you more exp from combat but it's pretty broken so you have to drop the numbers down if you want anything resembling balanced progression.
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>extended fight with an elite vampire
>don't notice running out of coldproof blankets on my pet
>an ice bolt destroys the coral speed ring I equipped on it
oh
okay
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Buy an a- heh
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>>737785729
>A whole system for getting women to breastfeed you
You had me at
>little girls breastfeeding
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>>737781518
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>>737781518
Has anything happened with the Yeek Cave? I wanna yeek out.
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>>737801763
I still get a chuckle out of that one chubby arab kamikaze yeek in a thong
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>>737781518
can you be a dungeon master yet?
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>>737800572
>losing items to cold damage
>on a companion
Deserved for not putting From North on it
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>>737797137
God bless the Japanese
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>>737800572
That whole mechanic is just a noob trap. What does heat/cold destroying items add to the gameplay? It's not like it's hard to counter
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>>737807097
I don't understand your argument?
Me standing outside your door with a bat is a noob trap. That's why you should carry your gun next time so you don't get brained
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I can't get used to using the mouse for so many actions, coming from Elona.
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Slime race is super fun. Finally I can theorycraft out of my ass to and get cool passives from multiple classes and races all at once.
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Have Anons made new sprites? Oh I have an old link that still works. https://catbox.moe/c/oxci6o
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I miss Kumiromiposting. I give my seed for he.
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I'm waiting for 1.0, I just know I might end up playing this game for the rest of my life
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>>737781969
Technically, no, it's not a game. Don't you dare ask me for the definition.
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I haven't kept up with the Japanese community of autism builders and now the tech theyre using is like insane level if minmaxxing visuals like using three chairs and rope and a pole to make one single window
Elin was fun for 400 hours but now it just feels so pointless
meaningless grind for big stats for...?
making autismo builds for...?
at least the Elin with AI mod is fun
idk bros maybe im too old.
gonna do a nethack run instead
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>>737807097
old roguelikes did item destruction and rusting so it must be good
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>>737808745
>at least the Elin with AI mod is fun
Which mod?
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>>737807097
Is this your first time playing a game with item destruction? It's a pretty common mechanic in games like these. The point is to encourage preparation, carefulness and prioritizing. If you're paying attention you can clear through dozens of nefias before you need to craft more blankets. If you're playing on autopilot a single stray enemy can burn through dozens of charges.
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>>737797137
i wish i could go back to worshiping horome
but my chaos shape speed reductions also affect my symbiote
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>>737783808
You can play as a vampire now and suck blood instead of farming. Your followers will be weaker than normal since you aren't feeding them good ass food, however.
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>>737809475
Oh my god what a sexy banshooka
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>>737797137
Did they really need to buff horome?
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Is it okay to play as slimes now?
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>>737785729
>A whole system for getting women to breastfeed you
wut?
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>>737809835
What's confusing about it?
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>>737782516
>>737789792
>It's the kind of game you either play for hundreds of hours or you get filtered and drop it quickly.
H-help
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>>737813923
i just got my first adamantite pickaxe
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>>737797531
40% chance this is Sseth typing
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>>737813923
>>737814141
rookie numbers
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>>737816998
damn
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>>737816998
i kneel oni-chan
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>>737816998
My knee just dropped to the ground on its own involuntarily.
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>>737816998
baste
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>>737809045
yeah except it doesn't work in a game like elin because i can sit there and savescum at a goods vendor and see it takers me like 20 attempts just to get a refresh that has 1 single fire and 1 single cold blanket at the same time
the worst part about this game by far is all the retarded rng that ranges from meaningless to ball busting
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>>737809657
dont worry noa will definitely balance it by giving lulwy worshippers ass eating or something
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>>737817885
>refreshing general goods vendors for blankets
Anon just buy a stack of fliers from the merchant guild and hammer it. Congratulations you can craft enough blankets for dozens of charges at a cost of 2k.
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>>737817885
>>737818520
>be me
>be wizard
>worship Itzpalt of Element
>wear scale/cashmere/dragonscale clothing for extra resistance
>become inmune to fire/ice damage and it's destructive properties
>spend the money i saved on blankets with whores
ez
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>>737816998
Why do you do this to yourself in an early access game
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>>737819643
it's fun
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>>737819883
Won't be any fun left by the time it releases
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>>737819643
>Why do you enjoy videogames?
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>>737820147
for you
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>>737820147
Nigga its a true roguelike RPG, its near infinitely replayable as it is, content keeps coming and fairly certain there's already a decent modding community

Makes a lot more sense than the guy who has over 1k hours in dark souls 1
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>>737819643
nta but what the fuck else am i going to play? name another rpg that has as much freedom
hell i can't even think of another one that just lets me make money to buy gear by playing music, let alone lets me marry a giant robot and ride them around underwater to grab materials to make a special water breathing torch etc
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>>737820147
Every single new race added after launch has had a niche unique enough to feel distinctly different.
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i go back to this game every 6 months
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>>737821593
same
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It's a shame that the main game is about building a base and growing mushrooms, it literally takes thousands of hours, and without food you can't improve your stats. I'd like the game to be about exploring the world and not be Stardew Valley.
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>>737822001
Play Elona then.
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>>737822001
i mean you only really need crazy high stats if you want to like see how deep into void you can go
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Everytime I want to play Elin I autistically scramble back to E+, because I didn't unlock South Tyris yet
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>think about playing Elin again
>know the dev will add some new features in a month's time
>put it off
early access sucks. I want to play a finished game
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>>737785729
Amazing, Japs are simply build different
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>>737823246
bro you could die before the game finishes
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>>737825024
Well then he doesn't have to worry about it
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>>737825024
good. I hope so
I already played it a bit anyway and moved on. i can die knowing i experienced some of elin
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>>737808373
I was gonna wait for some new ai since what we had was really ass. But then we never got a good new ai. Also never got the sex update.
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>Play slime
>Use devour on a Mother
>End up playing better succ
Who balances this shit?
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>>737827135
yeah they're pretty much the most busted race, tho i think that's just mostly because there's a lot of cool shit npcs have that the players normally can't get like infinite cast spells
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>>737797137
Holy based
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Welcome backy
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why are vampires so weak in this game btw
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>>737829587
Git gud
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>>737809426
find something fast with big tiddies to suck for you to ride
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>>737829587
Because you went into it thinking you were gonna get cool Hellsing vampires instead of lame Oblivion vampires.
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>>737830382
fuck
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>>737827135
I don't think balance is a concern, and that's a good thing.
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I just installed this a couple of days ago and it looks fun but it's impossible to play this with permadeath while going blind. A pig killed me at the very beginning (I was a mage), I decided to with a warrior next, and after making sure I took things slowly I went to the puppy cave and everything was going smoothly, I even spent like 500 coins on potions. Second floor and the retarded little girl decides to charge towards a group of like 5 enemies and she got instakilled despite my efforts to throw potions at her.
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>>737829587
wdym, they get to turn into a fairy for free, and once you get a set of scale gear you can just ignore the sun
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>>737832551
Elona and Elin are definitely not built for permadeath by default. It's merely an option.
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>Played 200 hours of this when it released initially on steam.
>Every attempt to get back into it since then has ended with me staring at the screen, getting overwhelmed over nothing and quitting.
Fug.
Also did ACTUAL alchemy and blacksmithing ever get added?
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Have the tentcheats been BTFO yet?

I spent so much time gardening properly.
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>>737809475
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>>737832551
Permadeath on a game like this is utterly fucking stupid. There are invisible landmines that instantly kill you, and the only way to train your trap detection skill is to spot them before they instantly kill you; and accidentally picking up something super heavy and clicking anywhere also instantly kills you. Oh yeah and even if you've spotted a mine or a trap your character will gladly step on it unless you micromanage where they step.
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>>737809662
that's a man
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>>737832661
>Alchemy
Yes but it’s pretty barebones since potions don’t scale at all. That said, it still enables some of the most powerful potions in the game like gene potions or egg laying potions.
>Blacksmithing
If you mean weapon crafting and shit, then no he doesn’t like crafting. You can still do some funny things with Garokk’s Hammer and reconstruction scroll though.
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>>737832661
uhh you can make potions with an alchemy tool now apparently but i haven't tried yet, i don't think there's any new blacksmithing stuff but there's crafting runes stuff now for moving enchants on gear
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>>737833113
>accidentally picking up something super heavy and clicking anywhere also instantly kills you
this almost happened to me too. It seems like a cool game, I will play again when it leaves early access and I won't paly with permadeath
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>>737832882
based
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>>737833140
that makes it better
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>>737832661
>Also did ACTUAL alchemy and blacksmithing ever get added?
no, but HAMMER alchemy is still strong despite the nerfs
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What's the best way to handle feeding your party? I've got my cooking maxed, but needing to manually hand off the correct stat food to each of my 4 party members every 3 days is so damn tedious
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>>737834832
iirc if you just set your cooler on your character to shared and put cooked food in there your party will take from it automatically, not 100% on that tho
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>>737834832
i don't know, i only have my pocket fairy onahole-shoulder turret that i don't feed because it doesn't die of starvation
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>>737834961
bro.. eating food raises their stats..
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>>737834832
i just fill a bag with food and share it
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>>737834832
just jam their inventories with food. Food on party members' inventory doesn't rot.
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>>737834832
If you want to minmax it then no, there's not really a better way. If you're fine with "good enough" then recruit an innkeeper and invest massive amounts of money into them so they start selling you food that's decent enough so you don't have to spend ages cooking.
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>>737835027
i know, but i'm raising my stats first
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>>737782516
Number go up.

Music quests are the way to go for quick and easy platty early game.

Then you go to the casino and pick up some monster balls to catch dodos by playing basketball.

Then you cycle through the G*DS with dodo corpses (pipes for Mani).
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What's this game about? What do you do?
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>>737836256
At least buy foods from the merchants.

They can sell some pretty decent stuff, like +9/10 str.

Personally I run a lunchbox farm. Yeah I got all sorts of people making me lunch, on the reg.
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>>737781518
should of played it like a mouth harp
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>>737836646
2d turn based (but in a grimrock/old dungeoncrawler style where everything moves with every action you take) sandbox rpg with a main story quest, fighting (melee/ranged/magic/summon/etc) and non-fighting stuff you can do like music or fishing, base building and party management mechanics, crafting, dungeons, unfinished tho
strange lore to justify mechanics like everyone being able to lay eggs and lactate, even pic
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>>737816998
I need to get back to it... I haven't played it for like 5 months now
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>>737836646
it's about learning, painfully, the futility of an adventurer's life, and instead discovering the thrill of frontier development and collecting decorative little sprite doohickies to beautify your lands.
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>>737836646
You cultivate. Start as a broke hobo and work(eat) your way up to a God with your own castle or city. If you played Kenshi it's kinda similar concept
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How much music level do you actually need in order to be able to complete the low fame music jobs? I've always been too afraid/lazy to invest plat and time in music.
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>>737837054
>>737837253
>>737837415
Ok, thanks. I don't buy early access games but i'll give the demo a go.
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>>737837480
really not that much, im pretty sure you can do the ones that ask for like 150 points as like a golem musician from the start, also depends a lot on who you get in your audience, just put a little bit of plat in and get like 5 or 10 maybe
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>>737837054
>strange lore to justify mechanics
head canon, the game's setting has standard biology, the humans aren't actually laying eggs that birth elders
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This game's community sucks. It's just a bunch of Fortnite zoomers that want to break the game rather than play it normally. They'll find anything to take shortcuts and even use mods to automate everything. At that point you might as well play Clash Royale since you'd at least be playing something in your generation instead of trying to champion a game that is a corpse taken over by Unity, much like ZSNES.
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I had so much fun during launch and the following weeks with everyone, put in 400 hours and all, but I haven't been able to bring myself to get back into it since then because of the crafting monolith and glacial pace. Like why would I go back when + Custom-GX is right there with none of those headaches? Didn't enjoy my first two saves getting randomly corrupted and the chinkgates either.
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>>737838136
>that want to break the game rather than play it normally
anon no one played this game normally even back when it was elona, this is not a zoomer thing you are just retarded
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>>737838136
i mean yeah west zoomies and chinese people are going to be using all the cheatmods, i don't like using mods but i'll absolutely savescum here and there
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>>737838205
my favorite genre
>break the game, I dare you, I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU
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>>737838205
>no one played Elona
fixed it for you
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>>737837480
Lowest level of quest you can get by with like 5. You'll qucikly get to the point where you can do the 300-500 point quests. Beyond that it's quite a bit harder.

You don't invest plat in music ever, except to unlock it. The skill levels itself.

Magic Map helps a lot, best simple strat is find a harp room, stand there and play an instrument. Tick "Play music until you stop" in character settings.

Music is a platty machine, it gives a ridiculous amount.
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>>737838298
mods are great. not every mod is a cheat mod, but you have to curate carefully.
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>>737839268
There's no way I am ever not using automine etc.
You need so much goddamn ore.
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>>737832637
mount bonuses don't apply to symbiotes
speed penalties have full effect on symbiotes and speed bonuses have half effect, so worshiping speed slut is essentially required until i get enough good speed rings to negate the losses
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>>737808373
I used to make my own sprites/pccs, but once I started learning how to add adventurers to the game I realized I was doing more of that than actually playing the game.
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maybe this thread will have a quick death instead of being on page 10 for 4 days straight
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>>737839710
where do I start to learn how to add custom adventurers? I haven't really figured out the mod scene yet, but adding characters I have from other saves as custom adventurers in my main save sounds like a cool idea
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>>737840196
For some reason the fucking guide got removed from the modding wiki, so my recommendation would be to install a mod with a variety of custom adventurers and working backwards from what they've made to familiarize yourself with the system. You can check the mod you've installed via the mod viewer in-game to pull open the content folders of the mod.

The major parts are adding your characters to a SourceCard excel sheet with the appropriate inputs to 'code' your NPC, and adding separate image files for their portraits and sprites in separate folders. You can also add dialogue for them to say in another excel sheet if you wanna go that far. The wiki does have a list of keywords that you'll want as a reference when messing with the SourceCard sheet, so doesn't hurt to look through there too.
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>>737841325
>For some reason the fucking guide got removed from the modding wiki
might explain why I was having trouble finding info on it I guess, it doesn't sound too difficult I'm assuming its just a matter of figuring out the proper syntaxes, I'll give the backwards approach a try then thanks anon
I may end up going down the same path you went on if this ends up working out
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>>737834832
Bulk cooking and filling their inventory with the food they want usually works.
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>>737840069
no
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>>737837946
>the humans aren't actually laying eggs that birth elders
why not
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>>737827135
>balance
It was already nerfed once and it's intentionally overpowered right now because it's the only race that has access to gene manipulation for the player.
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>>737822001
You're greatly exaggerating how much time is spent on farming. That shit is literally automated once you set it up and it takes a fucking month for a single batch to grow, be harvested and replanted.
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>>737827135
>Play snail
>Pass a jannie
>die

Who balances this shit?
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>>737846071
If you're abusing delegation and watering I think it's 3 times a month but you don't have to replant.

The real annoyance is the absolute mass of slightly distinct seeds.
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>>737838205
Honestly? It's day and night. In the before times of vanilla Elona, people cared about understanding the game, learning its mechanics, and manipulating the system to breaking point. There was a spirit of curiosity, discovery and willingness to experiment.

None of that these days. They just want prepackaged answers as to what's the "best", from food to weapons to companions, not that those answers even exist to begin with. A bunch of intellectually lazy creatures whose first instinct is to cheat away any problem instead of solving it. Harmless enough in Vidya, but then these attitudes get ported over to real life.

>>737848173
If you let delegated replant it doesn't matter as you will never handle seeds.
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welcome backy
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>>737848173
>If you're abusing delegation and watering I think it's 3 times a month but you don't have to replant.
You're not getting three crops per month. Almost everything you'd use in food take 20 days to grow. Delegated farming has a standardized five day wait time between growth and harvest. The only notable exception is Mushrooms which grow in a single day but those aren't really relevant unless you're the type of person who actively enjoys Harvest Moon gameplay; most people just grow them early on because it's decent passive bait generation.
>The real annoyance is the absolute mass of slightly distinct seeds.
Eh, delegated farming doesn't have a problem with seeds because there's no excess and if you're manually farming you just toss out the lowest level stuff each time.
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Playing Vampire was cool for the first few hours, needing to go into bat form during the day and to travel, while being able to be a super strong warrior by night. But it very quickly becomes a test of patience constantly needing to do it since a "run" should easily be at least 20+ hours. The answer is obviously just to worship Itzpal, but that is basically just the player being forced into which god they have to select for their race, while also just losing 90% of the races flavor.
Really wish there was just a way to auto toggle turning bat-mode on and off depending on time of day and location, with a pop-up if someone will see you commit the crime of transforming. I have had more deaths from walking out of a dungeon while forgetting to turn bat-mode on, then any real deaths on my other characters.
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>>737848412
>it doesn't matter as you will never handle seeds
You will when raising a fresh crop and I'm a bit too cautious because I usually end up fucking up if I'm on a low crop count like 1 per stat seeding to spread through delegation.
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>>737790353
>2000+ hours in both
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>>737848412
>90s, early 20s
>only whites and japs on internet
>things are good, everyone curious and happy
>current year
>whites and japs are absolute minority on internet
>billions of subhuman browns online at any given moment
>cheating, dishonesty, and low iq demands abound
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>>737840196
>open page on wayback
>the original content loads but only for one second before changing to a 404
The fuck?
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>>737849328
You've seen too much.
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>>737849247
>Anon left his video game on for 6 months straight, more at 11
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>>737848918
Automated bat form could be nice but only under very specific contexts. Allowing it to be fully automated would kill a lot of flavor the race has but it seems reasonable enough to allow it when exiting a nefia.
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>>737784919
You don't have 20$ dollars?
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>>737791905
but /v/ told me that

>>737792402
I was so fucking broke all the time I had to eat garbage
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>>737796873
You need to make good food to get good stat growth. Start a farm (get seeds by doing harvest quests & reaping the excess crops you don't need to turn in, keep reaping the seeds until they reach a high enough level and give you fat stat potency boosts), get a fridge, go hunt good meat (dragon meat is what you want, but dodo meat is suitable in the early game or if you don't need strength), level up your cooking until you can make better food, use a hammer to dismantle food you purchase if you need to learn a recipe, cook obscenely powerful food, give a certain character some of that food so he can duplicate it, and before you know it your character will be a god amongst men.
It's a process, but stick to it and your stats will start going up a lot faster. The wiki has an entire page dedicated to optimized stat-boosting recipes. You'll figure it out.
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gg serious dogs, might've meme'd a little too hard with the griefbow
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>>737800572
>he doesn't worship Itzpalt for complete fire, cold, and lightning immunities
lmaoing @ ur life
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>>737853086
>worshiping inferior gods
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>>737853021
Anon?
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>>737853086
3 dragon scale items at +5 will give you 18 cold and fire res, which puts you above the threshold for item breaking
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>any race that doesn't have a broken gimmick or a crazy statline is considered a "RP" race now
Who am I going to RP with? noa?
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>>737853653
Most of the races have a "crazy gimmick." The only one that truly stands out is Slime(and arguably Chaos Shape if you savescum like fuck but it was not designed around savescumming) and that's because gene engineering is absurdly powerful but hasn't yet been implemented for the player(unless you play as a Slime.)
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lulwy is love, lulwy is life
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Cat in a box.
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puffy
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>>737855072
sexo
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>>737848448
welcome backy
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remember when some sharty autist used to spam cp on elin threads
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>>737855393
>niche game with threads where people actually talk about the game
>sharties sperg the fuck out because they can't handle a game with little girls
>mods and jannies sperg the fuck out because they can't handle a game with game discussion
>retards sperg the fuck out because they can't handle a game that does not attempt to hold your hand
Filters this powerful are rare these days.
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why do soiteens hate little girls
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Has anyone figured out how to cast the Flare spells? They're apparently 3x3 AoE spells for each element that don't come from spellbooks, but I haven't been able to find any rods that can cast them either. The Living Mana Battery ether disease symptom can let you drain rods of their charges to get spell stocks, but this isn't helpful when the damn rods won't show up.
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>>737855272
Cute one!
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>>737855272
kek
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can you build a castle
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>>737858686
If you want to sure.
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>>737858686
sorta but it'll only be one level, idk if the dev plans to let us build with multiple levels later
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>>737860314
>idk if the dev plans to let us build with multiple levels later
Z-axis building existed in the beta but was causing problems so it was disabled. He plans on reintroducing it later but it's going to be pretty low priority for a while.
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>also if you worship horome you can just suck tiddies whenever you want
lol
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Day 1000 stats. I need to eat more silver bells.

>>737853894
And here we have Kettle's room.
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Is the only way to get seeds with the stat potency boost you want repeatedly farming the same crop repeatedly until you get lucky? I know it's early access I'm genuinely asking if there's a better way.
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>>737860314
You can do a sort of multi level thing, it just takes some work and money, and doesn't really look all that great to start with
>have owned land
>get stairs
>go up stairs, make sure to bring flooring just in case
>claim the land up the stairs
>make it feel like a second floor, use flooring to expand the area you can move in
It basically lets you mimic the way that Seeker's Keep is set up so you have a second floor to your base, though it counts as a separate area entirely.
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>>737860582
>He plans on reintroducing it later but it's going to be pretty low priority for a while.
cool, at least you can make some fun stuff with raising levels with the build board for now
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>>737861242
oh wild wtf i never saw anyone mention this
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>>737861119
Once a stat boost is on a seed, it will only improve that strain. Only from a +0 seed can you roll a different strain.
You can also mix a seed with any strain with mercury at a wooden mortar. This will generate a new random strain at the cost of some seed levels.
I hope this is understandable.
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>>737861327
I hadn't tried it out before this instance of doing it, but had found a few sets of stairs in dungeon drops and wondered if it would work. If you have more stairs on the first level to go up with it will add a new set to go back down in the "second floor" area as well. Going to try adding a third floor to see what happens.
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>>737782740
Perhaps you can make Elin threads by framing them in a twitter screenshot..?
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>>737860828
You're in a way better spot (in terms of base stats at least) than I am at 2112 days, anon. Good work! Once you get a couple nice pieces of gear from deeper nefias, you'll be extremely strong.
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>>737837535
Just pirate it
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>>737781518
I tried to play this but having a hard time figuring out what to actually do
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>>737848412
>people spent time to learn to break the game
Now
>people still apend time to learn to break the game but tourists aka secondaries beg to be spoonfed information
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>>737861446
Just tried with stairs I made myself, looks like it has to be a stairway specifically which doesn't seem to have a craft recipe. Not sure if the stairways dropping as an item is something that the game is supposed to let happen, or if it's a weird mod interaction. But it seems like if you can find stairways you should be able to do some interesting things.
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>>737861624
it's basically just skyrim, aside from the main quest being incomplete you basically just choose to either follow the main quest or fuck around doing whatever you want like progressing your character or whatever other goal you want
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Grow multiple stat strains of rice
Grind two rice into a rice bag
Mortar two bags into rice cake
Aging rack to turn it into cheese to splash into recipes
Always eat in "Hungry" for +10% and drink dirty water 10 times a day gathered from nefia to vomit allowing you to eat several times more
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>>737862112
I can't cook enough meals to follow through with a bulimic diet! I'm still a chump relying on Kettle for quality meals.
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>>737861327
Because it's not an intended function. You can't just "get stairs" like that. It's the result of a beta function which is guaranteed to be changed because it's completely broken in numerous ways.
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>>737853174
>worshipping used gods
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Has this game gotten any significant updates or is it just nerfing shit infinitely
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>farmer still upset by not being to atacks infinite famers
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>>737862945
>>able to stack*
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>>737861405
Just what I was looking for, thanks. I didn't know about the mortar thing
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>>737849298
holy larp
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>>737838136
Nobody wants to invest tens of thousands of hours into a game to understand non-obvious mechanics; if the game doesn't value my time, then I won't value its grind either.
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>>737862619
a little more of everything mostly, few new quests, npcs, enemies, areas, etc
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>>737864476
for that, I'd rather play Barotrauma or Rimworld/Dwarf Fortress
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>>737864476
I do actually. Learning something new about a game a few hundred hours in is kino.
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>>737864476
>if the game doesn't value my time
Aww he said the thing.
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>>737855272
scut!
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how much until a lonarpg like mod hits the game?
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>>737855393
ehm jartycuks are not shartie culture okay?
jeez...
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meow meow meow meow meow meow meow
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>>737865182
I understand that the game is good, but it requires a lot of time that I am not ready to devote to the game.
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>>737866573
I'm going to eat the churyu!
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>>737866929
You are now a member of the thieves guild.
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Slime is ridiculous for breaking the game. Having Farming Legs 5 and Fast Learner 3 within the first few months allows you to work practically forever and you level up stupidly fast just from gathering a bunch of stuff.
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>>737869187
How do you start a game as a slime? It literally dies from any poke.
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>>737869447
fast learner 3
farming leg
from north/efficient feeder
moonlit kin for easy recruit
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>>737869447
Little girl with the +10 PV ring and some basic crafted stone equipment is basically unkillable so long as you give her some bandages and she taunts.
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>>737865557
>didn't turn sharpness down to zero
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>>737848448
Is there anything more soulful than returning home from your adventure to your allies saying "welcome backy!"?
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>>737782516
I also don't get it.
I play CDDA, rimworld, DCSS, angband and other autistic, tile based deep sims but this one just never clicked for me. But for most of those 5 hours I was fighting the UI.
Didn't know you could design a UI worse than DF.
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bread?
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>>737871230
What are your issues with the UI?
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>>737797531
None of this is neccessary. You just invest in merchants and buy good food from them.
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>>737782516
>>737871230
A big componant of Elona/Elin is that 99% of the game is just a knowledge check. Knowing that X happens or Y does Z and that's why you need to go do W by V prevents almost all sore spots. But you only get that knowledge by stepping on a rake for 10-20+ hours or pouring over the wiki/threads until you know all of the minutia. The minute-to-minute gameplay then feels very shit and you are often punished heavily for exploration.

You're just constantly running into situations where things will kill you in a single shot, or give you debilitating mutations or fuck up quests or require exorbitant funds etc. Luckily the homesteading is kind of neat, and building up your base is something this game does better than most. The actual adventuring is kind of ass though. I think that's the most comparable aspect to CDDA but the adventuring in the game explicitly isn't ass, it is also a huge knowledge check though. So I guess the only thing I can promise is that it does "eventually" click.
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>>737871230
you can customise the entire ui tho
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>>737838136
>its "fortnite zoomers" minmaxing in my Japanese grinding game, damn them!
Lol....how out of touch with reality do you have to be to think this?
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>>737866920
Anon what if I told you it doesn't? What if I told you that you just don't really understand it, so it's extra difficult for you? That there are swathes of people where it doesn't take "thousands of hours" to figure out to use blankets and eat good food and how to get it?
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>>737872226
Just to get level 14 seeds you will need more than 400 hours, and another 400 hours for cooking.
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kumiromi sex
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>>737872334
You most definitely do not need 800 hours for good food. You're also not interacting with those mechanics for that amount of time, in fact most of the time it's something happening in the background while you're doing something else because once you understand how to improve a seed that's basically it. You just repeat the process as needed.
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>>737872334
just get lucky bro. A single piece of equipment dropped is like hours of farming.
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>built a new PC and lost my save
It's over...maybe I'll pick it up again when the game is done or atleast close to being done.
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>>737871723
>I got filtered hard so I'm going to pretend like the game is at fault
I went into Elona(not Elona+; basic ass rape you every five seconds default Elona) and had a general grasp of the game in a single play session. I didn't find it particularly difficult but I could tell it was going to be far more grindy than I'd like to I made the switch to Elona+.

Knowledge does take you far but to call the entire game a "knowledge check" is objectively false. You could make this argument if the game was designed as a roguelike but it isn't. You will die and that's perfectly fine. You get a generous penalty-free period at the start of the game for a reason. If you play for hours and still haven't figured anything out that's not the game's problem, that's on you for being a retard incapable of experimenting.
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>>737781518
>play a pair of silk panties like a violin
Is there something like elin that isn't lolsorandum xD slop?
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>>737873006
>>I got filtered hard so I'm going to pretend like the game is at fault

Anon I have 500 hours, I just struggled a lot early on despite also having a shitload of time in elona. I think you misunderstood my post.
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>>737873041
What a bizarre thing to get annoyed by.
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Do the player races still all have the same sprite?
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>>737873123
That kind of stuff is prevalent throughout the game. It's an understandable pain point. There has to be a way for japanese to feel like they can express themselves without stooping to this level of comedic perversion. It's not titilating or interesting, it's the japanese dev equivalent to a child in elementary school picking his nose visibly on purpose for attention.
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This game is fine, but it is definitely a 'wiki game', in that you cannot discover critical game knowledge by just playing it, unless you are incredibly lucky, clever, or unnaturally thorough and playing it like QA.
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>>737873202
It's not a 'pain point', the whimsical japanese weirdness is part of the Elona series and what the dev is known for. It's what the fans come back for.

There are plenty of generic serious games. This isn't one of them.
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>>737873284
>the whimsical japanese weirdness is part of the Elona series and what the dev is known for

Yeah it's a boring character trait maybe only endearing to weirdos and other japanese.

>It's what the fans come back for.

Absolutely not, lmao. I play elin because there is a pretty big drought of games with this depth but I'm not going to champion Noa as anything other than an eccentric weirdo with a good idea.
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>>737873215
>you cannot discover critical game knowledge by just playing it
Sure you can. All of the most important things are very intuitive and you'll learn them naturally as you play the game.
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>>737782740
>posters shit themselves in anger
Marketers throwing a melty that the slop they paid to shill got swept away by organic vidya discussion.
>>737784121
Like this cowadoody fag
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>>737873350
You just sound like a joyless cunt who can't take silly things for being that, just silly things.
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>>737873350
You're no different from the judgmental people who look down on video games from being "childish", get over yourself.
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>>737873483
>>737873501
>haha bro it's funny and quirky
Ain't nobody laughing. You could zap this shit out of the game overnight and 99% of the playerbase wouldn't bat a fucking eye dudes.
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>>737873521
Completely and utterly clueless. Half the reason the game even spread so much through word of mouth is because of all the absurd screenshots people posted about the game.
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>>737873041
there are a lot of traditional and non-traditional rogue-likes, but i don't know many with the same kinda sandbox-y and open ended elements. that isometric zombie survival game, perhaps? and CDDA maybe (never played it)
for more traditional, i like TOME. it has very diablo-like itemization and an MMORPG-like skill bar system instead of the typical "bumping" combat (but thats also the reason a lot of people dont like TOME and find it bloated compared to something very traditional like DCSS)
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>>737873521
I laughed at it - it's strange, it's quirky, and that's what makes it entertaining. You, however, just sound bitter, and admit to entertaining the the idea of removing something because it doesn't appeal to your sense of humor. When presented with honest mirthfulness, and sincerity, you recoil, and scowl - you're a pretentious curmudgeon, that drags down everybody around you.
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>>737873590
>>737873754
The game spread because it's a good roguelike with a functional GUI. That's remarkably rare in todays age. It's either ASCII bullshit alongside ocean depth or half-decent graphics and then shallow as piss puddle gameplay. It's fine if you like the weird stuff, life your life. But it adds nothing of substance to the game. I don't want it removed, but I do know the game would have less of a taboo element to it if it was gone. The people in this thread even who insist upon it would either mod it back in or keep playing without it. The people it put off would likely play it if it wasn't in the game. It seems like a win-win.
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>>737873483
A silly thing here and there is nice. When your entire game is just a shitpost it loses all novelty.
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>>737873808
>The game spread because it's a good roguelike with a functional GUI.
And because it's full of absurd shit. I personally don't like most roguelikes and the reason why I gave Elona chance had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that people were calling it a good game.
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>>737873808
>less of a taboo element to it if it was gone.
Nah, the conversation was about panty instruments being cringe, not the TABOO NATURE of the game, don't try to change the topic.
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>>737873041
Elona/Elin is just japanese ADOM, maybe check it out.
But I also don't get your problem with it, lighten up.
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>>737873997
>>737873991
? They are cringe, objectively. It's taboo to add cringe pervert comedy shit to your game, objectively. That's why it's basically nonexistant outside of japanese media, where it's the only way they can express those kinds of elements of their personalities/humor/whatever without getting crucified. If you like it, that's fine, again your life. But it indisputably marks you as a weirdo, and if the main reason you're playing the game is for surface level sex comedy then you're boring and an outlier for a reason.
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>objectively
It was obvious before but now you're being too blatant.
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>>737874257
Don't be a coward, it's just another weirdo trait to add to the pile.
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>Literally advocating for the removal of content in pursuit of a wider audience
yeah, he's trolling.
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>>737873991
>>737873997
I think you're both getting trolled without realising it, the other anon doesn't care.
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Watching a normie's head fucking explode when they try to parse noa's Sad Beast implementation.
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>>737873041
Someone else said that it's probably a pun on "G-String"
So it's not lolsorandum, you turd.
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>please sir westernize your japanese game or i'm gonna tell on you on twitter for being cringe!
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>>737874808
It's not even the weirdest thing, and to make Elin palatable to normies, you would need to remove a LOT more content.
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>want to finally play elin
>dont want to abandon my on and off playthrough of elona+ I've had going for like 15 years
I tried elin and I know I'll love it but everytime I think "damn theres more I need to finish in elona first"
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>>737874137
The shartys down the hall to the left retard.
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>>737873215
You can absolutely do it. Even discounting >>737873378 there are at this point about 30 informational books in the game, and even a dedicated vendor in the starter town who sells them all for 1 gold. Townspeople do give genuine tips if you talk to them. The game has a 90 day grace period to experiment. The game goes so far as to dump important books about vampires and spellcasting into one's starting equipment for the appropriate races and classes.

The intellectual laziness of people is infinite.
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>>737875482
Life is more than just two extremes anon.
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>>737875518
>tfw game has an entire book telling you how fucking shit LCK is
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>>737875547
You would feel much more comfortable over there though.
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>>737875607
>Have an entire casino dedicated to the god of Luck
>The Luck stat does fuck all to affect your results
>So everyone just savescums or sets up a autoclicker instead to get the rewards they want.
I never felt the need to savescum gambling in New Vegas, but within 5 minutes of learning about the rewards and lack of way to improve my odds I went straight to savescumming in Elin.
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>>737827135
It's a single player game. It's the same in the other direction of why would anyone play a snail tourist?
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This thread smells like Discord and it's pretty stinky.
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>>737876040
Your monocle fell off.
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>>737875629
Tourist.
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>>737785729
>A whole system for getting women to breastfeed you

reinstalling now
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>Elin thread on /v/
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Last time I played was 6 months ago with 300 hours. At the end, my Little Girl has 300 STR and is stronger than me in every way. But at the end I don't know what to do next being aimlessly. I don't feel that way with Elona or Elona Plus or Elona Oomsest
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>>737876319
How far into the void did you make it?
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>>737876081
It wouldn't be so stinky if zoomers didn't take over the voice channels and play Fallout New Vegas specifically. You guys don't even try to hide that you're frequent both places. But I guess it's bound to happen since the game's player count has been dropping below 800 lately.
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>>737876390
Around 200+. I was starting to get one shot
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>>737876081
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>>737876498
Nice. What do you usually do in the Elonas? I personally just like exploring nefia
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>>737876481
This is not a zoomer friendly game and Elona, the devs previous game, was a cult classic here decades ago
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>>737876769
>minecraft elements baked into the gameplay
>there's even a start that's a reference to a popular minecraft mod
>not a zoomer friendly game
Who's really out of touch here?
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>>737875607
Luck is objectively the best offensive stat in the game for many weapons. The problem is magic is still the most powerful offensive option and spells all scale to an absurd number of dice rolls so luck doesn't mean shit for them.
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my friend has been playing this for ages, but he said the opportunity cost/jank wore him out
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>>737877045
>minecraft elements
Elona had the same shit just less fleshed out
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>>737877321
Okay. Cool. But Elin was obviously created for people that aren't over 35 years old willing to play cult classics.
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>>737877508
Rofl
Lmao
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Look up Elin's Inn
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Look up the vtumor demographic that dominates this game overseas or just keep pulling wool over your eyes. doesn't matter to me.
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>>737877732
They don't understand the resurgence of elona/elin is due to players from the fucked mobile game getting interested.
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>>737781518
This shit game isn't even fun
I blew 60 hours on it waiting for it to get fun. All mechanics suck ass. Breaking it is the thing that's slightly fun, but only if you're autistic
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Not much to say about Lich. Watch my other video on Wraith to get info on Lich.
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>>737876706
I take every random NPC I can see and train them into the best they can be and then I summon a God to test it. My best is having a bow beggar (female) killed Lulwy with a bow
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me and my two husbands ready for the inheritance system
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>>737877868
the moblie game has been around for long time
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>>737878129
That's pretty awesome. I wanna eventually do quick god kills but I'm still a ways off from that.
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Coconut Crab! :^)
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>>737879014
Whoa.
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>>737879014
I'm too shit in designing houses so everyone lives in ugly boxes with king beds.
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>>737879014
scut!
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>>737879694
It's all about adding elevation to add some sense of depth and collecting junk.
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>>737879694
just like this anon said >>737880276
stuff every free space with junk and it will get comfy in no time
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>>737880875
Fishing those statues has been a trip since they would just crush me 90% of the time.
I need to carry more heavy crap and beat up someone on a hanging noose.
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Is pickpocketing worth it/a viable way to make consistent money past the early game? I save scummed some low level pickpocketing on my "late-game" warrior character and the results seemed too meh to justify an actual thief run/character.
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>>737881075
no
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>>737881075
Unless it's been patched there was a way to get ridiculously powerful/valuable equipment by pickpocketing high level companions in war requests but unfortunately outside of that it's way too difficult to use as a means of regularly stealing items from NPCs. Hopefully that gets changed at some point because it's pretty retarded that your character will abruptly stop trying to steal shit from some murder demon in the void just because they call for guards who don't exist.

There are probably a handful of relatively high level NPCs that are good for pickpocketing if you can catch them sleeping in the early game but I doubt even they would have much value in the long run since you can pretty easily get hundreds of thousands of orens worth of equipment to ship off once you start clearing through the void.
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>>737881075
Pickpocketing needs so much to work from early game and this goes all the way to late game since it requires a bunch of other stats to steal shit you really want.
Some NPC's have exclusive stuff tied to them that you can try to pickpocket I think though.
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>>737879014
living that no gate recipe life
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the black cat on my shoulder auto-casting earthquake is the best shit ever
>>737881498
looks very nice and clean tho
>>737880989
yeah me too man, I got only like 270 capacity after over 1500 ingame days
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>>737849328
Sounds like article author got autistic and nuked everything, including DMCAing Wayback
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>>737873041
Anon they already took 'hard gay' from us, leave it be.
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>>737882397
just runeforge your lamp with weightlifting enchant
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*putit*
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>>737882397
Thanks anon, it means a lot. I don't play games that feature building very often.
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What were the good early game companions to aim for with the scroll of summon you can get from Famia by saying you want to develop your land on day 7? It has been so long since I've played I can't remember what I used to savescum for.
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god summoning pls noa
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>>737887781
Reminded me, we don't have ragnorock, do we?
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>>737832551
The dev only added permadeath in for the rare masochist that wants it. The game isn't balanced around it and he doesn't recommend that anyone plays it.
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>>737888079
The weapon? It's on the Keeper I believe.
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>>737781518
building mode is nice



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