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The very first game that comes to mind. Go.
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None
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>>737786726
Final Fantasy games.
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>>737786726
Super Mario 64, Secret of Mana
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>>737786726
any old mmorpg
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Warcraft 1
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>>737786726
Sega Saturn
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Any of those 90s CRPGs
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>>737786726
Deus Ex 1 gameplay
Oh my god these shooting mechanics are the definition of outdated
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>>737786726
Half Life
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>>737786726
Roblox
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>>737786812
came here to post this
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>>737786726
Final Fantasy 8.
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>>737786726
all old Zelda
(and the new ones too)
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Most Jap games
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>>737786726
Any example I think of, I go back and play, and it's better than I remember.
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>>737786726
super metroid
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>>737786812
I liked it when I was 10 years old so actually it's really good and you're probably a snoy or something
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>>737786726
MGS1
I don't care what anyone says it plays like ass
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>>737786812
>>737787240
these
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>IT'S GOOD BECAUSE IT'S BAD
delusional nonsensical venting thread
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>>737786726
Final Fantasy XI
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I grew a zoomer broccoli haircut just reading this thread.
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God Hand, its actually unbeatable if you play naturally and not go sicko mode with moveset optimization
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goldeneye
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>>737786726
Morrowind
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>>737786726
Chrono Trigger
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>>737786726
Doesn't exist.
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>>737786726
Final Fantasy I and II
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>>737786885
Super Mario 64 is definitely still good but playing as an adult makes you realize how front loaded the game is. The farther you get, the shittier the stages get.
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>>737788505
If you can't beat GodHand on Lvl1 you have no motor function
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>>737786726
Smash
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>>737788658
>Beating
>On Lv1
Yeah i play Animal Crossing too you fucking fagget
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Metroid 1 and 2
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Crash Twinsanity
>good ost
>reasonable for Cortex's most popular personality
>looks better when compared to the mutants games that came after it
>has alot of cool concept that would have been neat to see fleshed out
But holy shit it is blatantly unfinished. Comparing the gameplay to the previous entries it is only "okay" at best.
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>>737789489
I believe it, sounds more up your alley
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>>737786812
your favourite game doesn't exist without this game being made, respect your elders faggot
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>>737786726
name 1 thing gen 1 pokemon does better than later gens
you literally cannot
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>>737786726
every game ever released
everything sucks
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>>737789690
still good for what it is though, can't say that about most games
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>>737787476
ask me how I know hollow knight was your first metroidvania
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>>737788598
2 has always been a black sheep, no one says it's great.
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>>737789723
music
it set the bar so high first try that whatever you could respond with barely counts as accomplishment
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every single one in this list
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>>737786726
Zelda
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>>737786726
Your mom
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>>737786812
Early 3d era was the nadir of games in how they actually felt to play
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>>737789719
who gives a fuck. it doesnt hold up unlike other insanely influential games like doom and quake which are actually still incredible to this day
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Deus x
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>>737786812
Nah, OoT still feels good to play and is fun
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>>737786726
Your fav game
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>>737789828
not even true, dumb boomer
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>>737789780
Honestly Twinsanity, despite its flaws, has so much soul and heart that I don't think I can rate it objectively.
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>>737789828
If someone had HK as their first metrovania, they’d probably hate the genre. I don’t get why anyone likes it, the only thing I enjoyed was getting lost exploring, I didn’t even mind the map stuff, which most people hate. But by the end I was sick of the world and the mystique of exploring was no longer fun.
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>>737789690
Nobody claims Twinsanity is good. Its a horribly unfinished game with less content than one game from the ps1 trilogy. Its carried entirely by its character interactions and humor, as well as the unique acapella soundtrack.
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>>737790318
>I liked exploring
that's kind of the point of the genre and is why Super Metroid is the best one because it actually rewards you for it
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>>737789884
>music
holy goddamn out of all the possible responses you had to choose the literal worst one

gen 1 music is not even sarcastically dogshit and the most iconic music is Lavender Town which is known solely due to being dogshit
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>>737786726
>The very first game that comes to mind. Go.

Goldeneye.

The control scheme sucks. In its time it was a great game; but in the wake of Halo going back to Goldeneye's convoluted controls is terrible.
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>>737786726
Basically any boomer shooter from back in the day. The level design was so bad 90% of the time, and once you've played three or four levels, you've seen everything the game has to offer, just in slightly different combinations. The whole games might as well have been procedurally generated.
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>>737789906
Agreed. A redditor made that list
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>>737786726
Front Mission 1 because I just got done playing the remake
I guess relative to the games of the era it must have been pretty good but even then I doubt that amount of vital hidden information was viewed positively and SRPGs have come a really long way since then.
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>>737790367
I played both Ori games and then HK, I preferred both Oris, I just don’t think I like the genre because I also played 9Sols and while a great game, it’s hardly a metrovania because it’s basically linear and very little backtracking.
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>>737789719
The Beatles isn't that great of a band even for their time either
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>>737787530
MGS1 is literally MG2 but bad.
Fuck that game, anyone who says it's their favorite in the series makes me laugh.
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>>737790479
Goldeneye sucks ass.

Unless you play it with the mouse control mod.
But even then it still sucks once you learn how the AI aiming works. On 00 agent in later levels, like Control, if a guy sees you from across the map, and gets a shot off, he hits you no matter what. Got behind cover in time? Doesn't matter. That bullet is hitting you.
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>>737788505
but you're SUPPOSED to go sicko on movest optimization. Engage with a game's mechanics or don't get mad when they engage with you
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>>737790532
Or maybe I just didn’t like HK because I found the combat crappy and shallow and the platforming to feel weird compared to Ori. Like, exploring is the best part in all of the Souls games for me. Don’t know, never felt inclined to play Silksong after suffering through HK.
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>>737789719
but my favorite game predates it
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>>737786726
People will cope and use this to bash on games that were beyond their time.
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>>737786726
Earthbound
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>>737788416
Nah I played for the first time last year and spent a few months on it even though I literally don't even play RPGs much less MMORPGs. It's a fantastic game that actually feels immersive.

>>737788515
I always preferred Perfect Dark, it has a lot more fun things to play with and still feels well ahead of its time. I revisited it in the PC port and it's aged gracefully.
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>>737786812
You actually just have shit taste and being a contrarian isnt a substitute for a personality.
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>>737787194
Gameplay yes, story and world no.

Wolfenstein 3d. Honestly to me that series should of died anyway because it has no fucking identity besides "shoot Nazi" and "id game".

But Wolfenstein 3d is grossly outdated and even with a source port its ass.
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>>737786812
Yup. It was an amazing experience when I was 10, but replaying it without the nostalgia goggles, it's a barren, janky, incoherent mess. Without the benefit of being a kid at the time who hadn't seen anything like this before it really is just a sub par experience compared to twilight princess.
>>737789965
>>737790016
Game feels like shit. Link and his items are constantly clipping into everything and every in game character is sliding around on the ground like a pig on a skating rink. The lock on camera is finnicky as fuck, always gltching into walls, scenery and npcs. Jumping over gaps is slow and ridiculous, it looks and feels like link is going into slow motion every time. Carrying around Princess Ruto and throwing her around feels exactly like carrying around a rock because they used the same animations. Diving feels sloppy because of the delay in the animation and the lag in the controls. Using the deku stick as a torch feels like waving around a hologram because there's no physics when you light torches with it. The horse is cumbersome and unresponsive. Aiming in first person with the bow or slingshot makes you flinch because the string collides with the camera. The stealth section is awful because of the floaty controls. Catching anything in the bottle is a crapshoot because of the tiny arc of the animation and has to be done multiple times. Having to pull out the ocarina and enter in a code then watch the animation to teleport anywhere is a frustrating waste of time. The menu screen lags when you open it and when you switch pages. You didn't play the game.
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>>737786726
ALTTP, ocarina of time, super metroid, halflife 1/ 2, im glad i no longer have to hear gen x boomers gas up these mediocre "it was my childhood" games. Atleast with millennial shit you know its actually fun because even zoomers enjoy playing remakes of those games.
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Alone in the Dark. The original. It was and is good because it was the first game to have 3D movie like control and scenes. It felt like a sign of things to come and it was. It's probably too difficult for anyone born this century tho.
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>>737787240
Halflife is SLIGHTLY dated , but its still good. I play opposing force once a year
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>>737786726
Hollow Knight 1
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>>737786726
Mario 64
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>>737786812
I went back to replay this after BotW. I felt like the shrines were souless and boring compared to OoT but jesus christ 10 year old me must have been completely retarded when I first played that game. The dungeons suck complete ass, the puzzles are so braindead that shrines might as well be baba is you tier, the story doesn't exist and the enemies are very dull. I have never had my nostalgia shatter like that before.

Makes me afraid to replay other games I used to love, and I'm wondering how much of it was just me remembering things wrong.
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>>737790479
goldeneye was always shit and is completely incomparable to masterpieces like Quake that still feels smooth as butter
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>>737786726
Fortnite
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>>737787003
I actually find Fallout 1 and 2 extremely playable to this day. They've got just the right amount of complexity so you feel like there's lots of options and freedom in how to play, but not to the point you get overwhelmed and need to consult a manual. A bit of a shame about the resolution of the graphics on modern displays, where everything either becomes extremely pixelated, or everything becomes extremely tiny, but they're alright with mods.
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>>737790572
Which bands were better back in the mid 60s?
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>>737789719
OoT has nothing to do with RTS so AoE 2 still exists in a world without it.
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>>737790367
Midtroid is shit though
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>>737789983
Quake 1 single player isn't that good desu, Doom's aged a lot better. Q1 multiplayer is still good but who's playing really
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>>737787240
Only true when it comes to half life 2
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>>737792074
Quake's influence mainly lies in its powerful engine that was a breeding ground for other creative game design such as the most popular multiplayer game of all time CS2 having its roots in Quake.
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Thief
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>>737786812
Best post.
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>>737790439
> the most iconic music is Lavender Town
if you're an algorithm-brained secondary maybe
opinion discarded with great prejudice
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>>737790897
>halflife 1/ 2
i feel this one, even playing them as a kid i thought the "immersive" elements were cool but i just couldn't care for the games as an entire experience. definitely a series i wanted to like more than i actually do. half-life just felt like that game you get so you can play cs.
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>>737790607
no diagonal movement in mg2 is a pain in the ass.
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>>737786726
Fortnite
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>>737792124
no it's not true. half life 2 is an excellent linear shooter, great pacing and variety.
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>>737789965
Absolutely not.
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>>737789965
mostly true excluding mature mouselook pc games and a couple platformers.
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>>737786746
>Thread
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>>737786726
Super Mario 64, which is weird because that's a game I genuinely do think is very good.
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>>737786726
Contra
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>It's bad because its old (but it actually fucking rocks)
wat game?
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>>737792716
meh
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>>737786726
third strike
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>>737789719
How does OOT influence System Shock?
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>>737793871
Contra is good. I think it did get memed to death that it was a crazy hardcore game, but most people should be able to clear 1 loop even without the Konami code just fine with minimal practice. Even the arcade version, with its slow aiming animations, isn't that bad.
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Morrowind.
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>>737794073
The reverence people have for both 3S and MotW online these days is hilarious to me having grown up at the time both were released, complete 180 all because of Daigo's parry and MotW being seen as 3S's alternative, instead of CvS2 which is what everyone actually played (besides Marvel 2 and SCII).
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old games are the fucking shit
zoomies need everything to give xp and cosmetics because they have brain damage
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>>737790665
Beat me to it. Why the fuck is that remembered well?

To add:
The first fucking level is the hardest for some reason. Once you can afford power ups the whole game is trivial. I don't know why it didn't fall to the wayside like Urban Champion and Donkey Kong 3.
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>>737793898
OGRE4, apparently.
>>737794549
This looks cool. Game?
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>>737791807
Not him, but I absolutely HATED playing Fallout 1. I felt the exact opposite in terms of there being "a lot of options and freedom in how to play." So many of the skills are meaningless, alternate solutions to quests are really flat, there's surprisingly a very limited amount of dialogue (even when fulfilling conditions and having high speech), and holy mother of god: combat? The combat was ATROCIOUSLY simple. With so few actions, and with so little point to what actions you DID have, it felt like playing a JRPG where you had no skills/spells, no classes, just either attack or heal with item; practically nothing else.

The most I'd be willing to give it is that maybe my feelings towards the game are also tainted with being flabbergasted and absolutely ENRAGED while playing that people would put a game like THAT on a fucking pedestal. Every moment playing it was a moment that I'd have rather spent making NMA posters and several /v/ anons guzzle a giant bag of sand for their crime of hyping that game up and calling it one of the greatest RPGs of all time. Maybe if I played the game again after getting over this UNYIELDING disappointment, then I could be kinder towards it as a small little dickaround RPG that you're meant to crank out in an afternoon or two.
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>>737794694
renegade x
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>>737794570
>>737790665
Rygar NES is not as fondly remembered as Rygar AC, which is a completely different game, outside of NES circles.
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>>737786812
This one wouldn't piss me off so much if it weren't for the fact that it's said specifically within the greatest of all time.

If you have to qualify how good it is with "for its time" or "but it was influential for later games" or "it's a significant historical title," then that's completely irrelevant to how it stacks up "for all time." Fucking, if you say "for its time" then that is the exact fucking opposite of "for ALL time." Stop giving it a fucking handicap in that regard.

Like, OOT is still really good, but "for all time?" Get the fuck outta here.
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>>737786726
Wrpgs age like shit
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>>737793898
see >>737788416

>>737794549
I was interested in Pragmata until more footage came out and there were fucking damage numbers and it became apparent what kind of "action" game it was.
Maybe Ninja Gaiden 5 will get damage numbers too.
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>>737794929
I had some fun with New Vegas even if I'll probably never play it more than once, and what I played of Morrowind was promising.
CRPGs get the benefit of extensive modding though and even the ones that try to align themselves as a vanilla+ experience still typically fundamentally alter the game.
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>>737786726
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>>737786726
Oblivion
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>>737789719
You might think that this retard is trolling, but no, Americans actually believe that there would be no video games without Nintendo.
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>>737786726
Deus Ex
Half Life 1 and 2
007 GoldenEye
Actually, anything on N64 aged like shit.
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>>737790862
>bunch of autistic nitpicky shit nobody cares about
Doesn't
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>>737786726
Monster Hunter
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>>737795547
sf64
tsumi to batsu
perfect dark
nfl blitz
mario kart 64
bomberman 64
mario party 1-3
>deus ex
nevermind, we fundamentally disagree
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>>737786726
Doom
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>>737786812
OoT snoys destroyed
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>>737786726
Definitely Deus Ex.
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>>737786797
FF1-3.
4-9 still hasn't had their equal / successor.
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>>737786885
Secret of Mana is a purely aesthetic experience like Subnautica. You either vibe with it or you don't. There's no super deep gameplay.

I never thought SM64 was that good even back in the day. Kids don't understand how much polygons made people jizz their pants back then.
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>>737787003
Fallout 1 is a legit classic and if you don't like it it's because your terminal phone brain got filtered by the UI. I say this as someone who played it for the first time after FO4.
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>>737796612
fo4 makes bubsy look good
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>>737786726
chrono trigger
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>>737786726
Holy cringelord uncs that put this at the top of S tier
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>>737794707
You sound like you played the shit out of it and burned out or tried to break it 16 different ways instead of just play the fucking game and put it away. Just because it's good doesn't mean it's infinitely replayable.
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Unironically most arcade cabinet games alot were bullshit just to suck up more quarters from kids honorable mentions goes to games like battle toads made to be impossible to beat in a rental period so stores would make more money and purchase more copies
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>>737786726
100% Morrowind. Bethesda's worst game and that's saying something since they only make stinkers.
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>>737786726
Roblox
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>>737787529
>>737789719
>>737790016
>>737790807
It insists upon itself.
>>737786812
Based.
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>>737797141
BASED. Fucking hated the "combat."
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This overrated uncslop
>story is juvenile bullshit that spins its wheels
>dialogue is retarded, though that may be the translation (stop saying "adventure!" all the fucking time you little shits)
>dungeons are linear as shit
>too easy
>good battle system is the only redeeming value
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>>737796612
nta but Fallout 1 is one of the worst crpgs I've ever played.
2 isn't much better, either.
It's so incredibly fucking basic and generic, get those cocks out of your mouth.
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>>737786726
Final Fantasy games
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>>737786726
Bethesda RPGs
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>>737789983
TRVKE NVKE

https://youtu.be/vquTPCYbOxk
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>>737786726
/v/ - Video Games
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>>737797028
No and no, but hey: if you're going to be a cunt that responds with nothing other than suddenly spouting off assumptions you entirely made up in your own head and instantly believe as reality instead, then at least that lets me know I don't have to waste any time talking to you beyond this. You're clearly entirely well off just working entirely by yourself and within your own delusions.
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>>737786726
This entire franchise.

Hilarious how the remasters made everyone realize how none of these games were ever actually good and only the voices and flowery English Lit major prose (the actual stories are all overwritten, retcon slop aside from BO1) were the notable things about them.
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>wow i can't believe this old game doesn't follow all the mechanical conventions established afterwards, it's literally unplayable
>wow i can't believe anybody could possibly dislike this old game when playing it divorced from its original time and place
it's all the same shit with you morons, even while actually useful stuff was pretty much always possible yet is still being fumbled nowadays
input rebindings, working pause menus, tutorial skips, mash/hold/toggle/doubletap options, gui scaling -- that's the shit that can be considered real fucking design breakthroughs, but is too boring to implement for most devs apparently
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>>737786726
Elden ring
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>>737787530
The gunning feels ass but at least it's not in a way that impedes the gameplay since you'll kill the AI anyway. I was able to beat it a decade ago for the first time and gotta say it's jank but not that bad
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>>737797415
>It's so incredibly fucking basic and generic
Nah.
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>>737786812
Lol
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>>737794707
I can't believe it's possible to be this wrong.
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>>737786812
Played it for the first time about two years ago and it was awesome. It held up immaculately (especially using the SOH mod). I never played zelda as a kid and never cared much about zelda in general but if i played this shit as a kid it would have been my whole life.
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>>737786726
goldeneye
it's kinda alright with the m+kb hack on pc tho ngl. same goes for perfect dark.
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>>737786812
The major signal of shit taste in vidya is disliking this game.
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>>737798003
So wrong you had to reply apparently. Where did NMA touch you?
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>>737800609
>>737802435
It's not bad, it's just LttP in 3D and kind of buggy. They continued to improve the formula for years after, but Ocarina captured a big cohort of nostalgiafags.
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>>737787194
>Oh my god these shooting mechanics are the definition of outdated
Wrong and filtered. If you could shoot your way out of every problem why would you explore any other route. It's why nu-deus ex is shit.
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>>737797402
I don't think anyone who played Grandia in the last 15 years actually liked it. Lunar held up shockingly well though.
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>>737786812
OoT isn't bad but it's painted as one of the best games of all time when it's not even a top 3 Zelda game
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>>737786726
Wind Waker, I tried the NSO version and the aiming and slow-ass sailing annoyed the shit out of me, went straight back to the Wii U version.
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>>737787530
Maybe it's because I'm used to retro games, but as someone who's five years younger than MGS1 and played it for the first time recently: I had a lot of fun.
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>>737786726
goldeneye 64
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>>737796860
mega retarded even if you didn't like it
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>>737786726
Fortnite
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They're starting to die off now (thank god) but for awhile you could not have a Persona thread without at least a 40% chance that some retarded boomer would start shitting on in and proclaiming P2 the best duology in all of gaming. Except when you play the game, it's just as retarded with its premise as Dragon Quest V is.
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>>737786812
The N64 Zeldas were my first exposure to the franchise as a seven year old kid in 1998. I hated the controls and lock on targeting so fucking much that it soured my opinion of Zelda for the next three or four years and I didn't bother to touch the series again until a friend convinced me to try the original top down Zelda games with Oracles & Seasons.

Ocarina and Majora are fucking dogshit and the singularly most overrated games currently known to man. The fact that my generation managed to laud Ocarina as "the greatest game ever made" is some of the gayest shit millennials have ever done.
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Resident Evil 4
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>>737789719
lol, lmao.
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>>737786812
I'd rather play Mystical Ninja or literally just about ANY other 3D adventure platformer on the N64 than this.
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>>737786726
literally anything on the n64
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>>737786726
every single game released before PS4.
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>>737786726
Half life 1 and 2
Re1-6
Silent hill 1-3
Dmc1-3
Ninja gaiden 1-2
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>>737786726
Every single ps1 game
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>>737786726
Ur mom
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>>737803551
The entire franchise and genre are shit lol
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>>737787003
i still regularly play these and they hold up great
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>>737786726
Anything you have nostalgia with rose tinted glasses for basically. I like baldur's gate 1 and 2 as a teen for example. Trying to revisit them later with the mind of an adult who has since then experienced a lot of things in life I just couldn't cope with the writing anymore. Before reinstalling them I would've argued like a retard that they were great games, which honestly I don't think they are when looked through the lens of an adult mind.
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>>737807046
Played them for the first time recently and they are great I'm sorry you don't enjoy bg1 and 2 anymore anon.

Morrowind
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>>737786812
Based. Fuck braindead Zeldafaggots for saying Jap feces like that is a "10/10" while deriding Legacy of Kain.
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>>737786812
Wrong, I'm a zoomer and just the music and atmosphere are timeless. Things like Banjo Kazooie? Yeah those don't hold up.
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>music and atmosphere are timeless
>Banjo-Kazooee atmosphere and music though? Nah.
Meme bait opinion.
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>>737786812
It was praised since it was new so I don't think it counts
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>>737786726
Doom 1
Wolfenstein
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>>737786726
Like the majority of games in the 80's, 90's and 2000's? They were not all just bangers, a lot of shitty licenced games and low effort games you would only play because you didn't know before you played them.
I miss demo discs because they gave you an idea outside of magazines.
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>>737786726
SMB1 and Zelda 1
>>737786812
Actual blasphemy
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>>737786812
Same poster btw
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>>737786812
>>737791435
truth nuke
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>>737786726
The thought has honestly never crossed my mind
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>>737797402
Might as well say every single jrpg on the ps1 because goddamn do ps1 pissbabies like to pick any of those mid games at random and claim it was the best game of all time, actually.
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SMAC
Beypnd Earth is in fact a better game but y'all ain't ready for this conversation yet
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>>737788521
I'm replaying it atm and I couldn't agree more



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