Valve won, you lost.
>9/10what's a 10/10 controller? I'll just go buy that one
>symmetrical5/10 is the most it could ever score
>>737791753It doesn't exist
>>737791753It would be OP's pic but without the retarded symmetrical sticks.
What are those big retarded ass squares? They are in the place where I rest my thumbs.
>>737791659So, no pre-orders? May 4th is date they're available and shipped immediately?
*Is the best and most reliable controller in your path*
>>737792415That dpad looks awful. >>737792243>immediatelylol
>>737792645I use it all the time, so much that it is basically black now, ,it is pretty good for diagonal movement too.
>>737792415these things have the worst quality control I have ever seen on modern controllers. i've never had rubber on the sticks peel off from normal use, or have almost every single one of the bumpers on mine feel like pushing down against sandpaper. better off getting 8bitdo or something.
Steam controller 1 is better because it prioritizes the right track pad.Right analog is worthless when you have a trackpad. >butNo buts, you're just wrong if you disagree
>>737791753If well done and supported the haptic feedback from the Dual Sense is a game changer. Kinda like when you go to a IMAX instead off a normal cinema.
>>737791753Wavebird
>>737793103Must have lucked out on mine because I use this fucking thing for ARPGs on the daily and it still works without a single flaw.
>>737791659What's a 10? Mouse and Keyboard? I don't how the grading scale works.
>>737791659I guess we love IGN now?
>valve won>had to cancel steam box and steam frame and release their controller aloneoof
>>737791659>symmetrical lower sticksWhat century does Valve think we're in?
>>737793918*unzips dick*
>>737794016your hands are symmetrical, why shouldn't your controller be?
>>737791659i refuse to pay $70 for a videogamei will not pay $100 for a fucking controller
>>737794454NOTHING in your body is symmetrical.
>>737794660what kind of sick freak of nature are you?
>>737791659>IGNis just interesting how this site keeps IGN alive
>>737791659>doesn’t have xinput, needs steam to workIt’s trash
>>737794705Asymmetry is natural, perfect symmetry is not natural, if you are perfectly symmetric then you are simply not a living being.
>>737792415i dont think you have a license for that controller
>>737791659Why would I ever use a controller my keyboard and mouse work fine
>>737791659Lost what? That looks like garbage
>>737791659>no xinput not buying your $100 gimmick
>>737794454The left stick is used 99% of the time in modern games. Why wouldn't the left stick be placed where my left thumb naturally rests?
>>737791753>what's a 10/10 controller?
>>737796369all 2d games use the dpad
>>737791659nothing beats dualshock 4 you jeet retard
>>737791659>IGN reviews matter nowWow that lasted like a week
Size seems okay. Wish it was even bigger
>>737796661hey look xbox it's our fat retarded brother
>>737794726>add non steam game to steam>problem solved
>>737796574Yup, and since you had no issues moving your thumb slightly lower to access the stick in your preferred design, then you'll have no issues moving your thumb slightly lower to access a d-pad in mine.
>>737791659I won, because I’ve wanted this for 10 years.
>>737796704>forced to run steam to use itits fucking shit
>>737796790>he doesn’t launch steam on window startup to chat with the boysngmi
>>737796726the thumbsticks stick out a bit, so it's easierbut that does make question why they put the trackpads so low, and if they're comfortable to use
It's so funny seeing people fight against gyro. Fucking plebians.
>>737791659Tbh you have to hand it to them for trying to break into the hardware space for years, failing, learning and trying again and so far succeeding
>>737796790>My computer has to be on to use it>FUCKING DOGSHITliterally not an issue.
>>737796661
I used DS4 for 7 years. Time to try something new. Which pad can you recommend?Also is 8bitdo Ultimate 2c any good? It's pretty cheap so I can get it easily and people praise it a lot but I wonder if it's actually worth it.
>>737797009>actually defending STEAM CONTROLLER DRMholy goycattle
>>737797184People here seem to have the mentality of pirate whatever they can or absolutely worship corporation with zero in between
>>737797148i have the ultimate 2 xbox version with underside buttons (it just has the xbox center button on it whoop de doo) and its a fine all purpose controller if you don't mind the form factor running a bit small. there's so much choice for third party controllers where, at a minimum, you're getting hall or tmr sticks so just pick out whichever one has the features you want for the type of games you play. you don't necessarily have to buy the top tier shit's that over 100usd.
>>737797184it's just a usb hid device like all previous steam controllerssdl will support it just fine without steam just like the 'eck inputs
>>737797346I have pretty small hands so Dualshock4 pretty comfortable for me>have to buy the top tier shit's that over 100usd.I don't really mind. But at the same time I don't know anything about 3rd party gamepads. I just something with good quality which can last 2-3 years of active using all my dualshocks started to drift after 1-1.5 years but at least they are easy to fix.
>>737796923thanks for the pic
>>737791659For a hundred beans I'd like something that could connect to multiple platforms
>>737792415I bought my wife one and it turns off every hour or so just for fun :>)my ps5 controller has stick drift.ill probably get the steam controller just so I can get a big company TMR controller not made by GAME SAAAAAAAAAAR or some polynesian sweatshop.
>>737796532Stick drift
>>737797760>I just something with good quality which can last 2-3 years of active usingnumerous third party controllers do that easily by simply having tmr or hall sticks. as far as features some of them have really high polling rates, or adjustable this or that on the buttons or triggers. if none of that interests you then 8bitdo are good controllers if all you want is a standard controller. some of the 8bitdos rely on software if you want to really fine tune stuff but i dont bother with it. i like underside buttons so i can re-bind them to stick click because i can't fucking stand stick click normally. the one i have lets you do that without software.
>>737791659Corporate-cocksucking sites don't count
>>737791753
>>737791659Retards crying about a $100 controller when normal ass controllers from snoy and xbox cost $75. At least this adds in the non dogshit sticks and 4 back buttons. I'll have to see if the trackpads feel good to use but other than that an extra $25 for all that is nothing.
>>737796661asked this a long time ago but what games make use of those touchpads seamlessly
>>737797316It's literally just opening up Steam you stupid nigger. Kill yourself.
>>737800485>no bluetooth or PC connectivity without overpriced adapter>dogshit dpad>buttons stick after 6 months>wire on the wired one goes out after light use over 12 months and bluescreens windowsPass.
>>737800485>wirelessThe wired one though was actually my favorite pc controller of all time and I would still be using it if mine didnt get bad stick drift after 13 years. No new controllers come close
>>737800498It also includes the charging puck and charging docks are usually an additional $20-30.
Valve better reduce the canadian cost to 100 dollars RIGHT NOW or im going to PIRATE their controller
>>737791659> no xinput> lost
>>737791659yeah my old steam controller lost, I'm buying this new one
>>737801459Exactly, you lost first class support on your shitty OS.Linux got a kernel driver just fine.
>>737791659Poorscum on suicide watch
>>737801315plus gst plus shipping plus environment tax plus tip :)
>>737800524no game. steam input includes layout presets, the ideal one being gamepad with mouse aiming on right touchpad. For most modern tps or fps that layout should work and offers analog triggers + mouse aiming. half life or portal would be good entry games. many games, including some valve games dont support gamepad + mouse input. basically all games will require some level of work to make it the best it can be.
>>737801569Only gays use Linux, all normal people use Windows.
The Sidewinder is still the absolute best PC controler.
>>737793952Always have when they agree with me
>>737801786Gays use MacOS. Wizards and trannies use Linux. Learn your memes.
>>737801748>basically all games will require some level of work to make it the best it can be.Then what's the point if it doesn't work out of the box? People will return it when they find out how it works.
>>737791820It's the PS5 and Xbox Series X controller.
>>737801917You mean like the steam deck controls???
20$ Xbox One controller with drifting Is enough.Buy 5$ new joysticks and solder them.Done. Brand new controller for less than 30$. Works on everything PC related, best d-pad after Nintendo ones, no gimmicks, no fuss, confortable as he can gets.>symmetricalBuy the submarine controller.
>>737802049How much does the soldering iron cost?
>>737791659Under normal circumstances I probably wouldn't care as much for this controller but recently playing Pragmata, this controller would be absolutely perfect for that game. On KBM, during the hacking gameplay, you actually use the mouse to go through the nodes at a much higher speed that you can compared to using the face buttons on a normal controller.
>>737794893In a video i've watched it was stated that face assymetry is a result of a body twist which turns head from back to the front. So i wanna say that symmetry is the default, and body under the neck is symmetrical.
>>737791659>it uses steam as translation layer, you have to launch the game through steam to use the controllerThis is what put me off.
>>737800534>It's literally just opening up Steam you stupid nigger. Kill yourself.So the controller only works if you have Steam. I do have Steam but I don't want to buy a hardware that works only if proprietary software exists. Am I supposed to add all of my emulators to Steam so I can use the controller?
>>737801917I dont know what to tell ya, these devices require tinkering and steam input gives you the tools to tune it to your liking (all controllers not just valve devices). Dont get me wrong, i get its annoying. thats why they included the joysticks. so stubborn players like you can fallback on good old reliable. the pads are always there and steam input is ready whenever. also, there are community layouts too so you can try a variety of layouts.
>>737802826Windows is proprietary software.
>>737802826You think steam is going away anytime soon ???
the most pathetic thing about this launch isn't the controller itself (and make no mistake it's as pathetic as it gets, from a company that increasingly does not understand any of their own products).No, the most pathetic thing about all this is watching all these zero credibility outlets slapping a 9 on everything with a valve label on it trying to appeal to the audience "because the audience clearly likes valve".Pathetic.You'll be seeing more of this around GTA6.
>>737792415Potato chips have more durability.
>>737802915They also have plenty of community made layouts. Mine for fallout new Vegas allows literally all actions possible on tap
>>737801917You can apply some autist's config that they uploaded to the not!workshop from the steam menu, you don't have to set it up yourself
>>737802921I can install Linux and my PC will still work.>>737802923That's not the point. Can I plug this controller and just play games on my PS2 emulator? I like Steam, but I don't want a controller that doesn't have xinput.
>>737803124>I can install LinuxThat has a kernel driver to support Valve hardware without Steam.
I'm getting one :) my 360 controller is dying anyway
PC gabing
>>737803178I think its really funny people want Valve to implement Microsharts xinput, when the whole reason they made proton and to a lesser degree, all of this hardware to not rely on the festering puss-filled dogshit that is Windows. All this while on Linux, it will work just fine, Steam or no Steam.
>>737791659>goystation layout
>>737791659not with that dpad
Your hands are symmetrical you stupid fucks.
>>737791659I kind of hate how the touch pads are tilted like that. If they were going to angle it, they should've made it more of a parallelogram shape
>>737800498trackpads are cool even on ds4 and dual sense. the problem is you need things like steaminput or other third paty software to actually "unlock" them for any game you want and make them do more things, otherwise it's only a per game feature like ghost of sushi using directional swipes or infamous: ss to interact with doors and gates
>>737794726>>737796790>>737797184Works fine on linux
>>737791659they won -100 dollars from me
>>737797184>DRMNot a thing on Linux.
>>737791659>over priced>shit layout>heavy>unable to be used with anything other than steamyou guys are delusional
>>737799490I've used the same DS3 for 17 years with zero drift.
>>737807641I've used the same one for 12 now with stick drift. It's functionally useless.
>>737807580>works on linux>not a problem on linux>please pay attention that i use linuxAnd I use Windows, but I don't have to mention that every time I open my mouth. I just use my computer and don't think about what runs on it. It's a great way to live if I'm being honest.
>>737807862You need to use it through steam on windows because microsoft is being a petulant child like yourself and not supporting a native driver.
>>737791659Why are the touchpads slanted? Does that even translate well into aiming?
>>737807981Windows still hold >90% of global computer market share.Proton doesn't support every single Windows game and only ever surpasses Windows' performance in edge case scenarios. Otherwise it's equal if not worse.It took a multi-million dollar company to take your flimsy toy OS and make it in any way usable for the market niche that is PC gaming just because the CEO of that company was ex-Microsoft and doesn't want his current business that is >90% of PC digital game distribution to be dependent on Microsoft.You wouldn't be having this high you've been on ever since the Steam Deck released if not for corporate interest being the only reason you get any usable software.Oh, and also Red Hat, Poettering and Microsoft won. Half of the kernel's code contribution comes from corpos. You're welcome.
>>737808204That's an awful lot of typing to say "Yeah, you're right about that."
>>737803609All I want is to be able to run software without a need to use Steam. This shit pissed me off even when playing with Linux.>you need Steam to download Proton>you need to log in to Steam>the moment you log in on a fresh machine you go online on Steam Friends>when you were offline for over a year for a reason, you want to play vidya, not use Facebook for gamersIf you don't want to go through hoops to install Proton without Steam, you need to use Steam, which is retarded. Valve should've released a cut-down version of their client just for Proton and Steam Input years ago.No, I don't want to run and entire Chromium web browser in the background that I need to log into and go online on every new machine just to install software that should either be available as a standalone package in every distro or to use controller mapping software that should be standalone like every other fucking controller mapping software.Fuck you Valve, fuck you Gaben, and fuck you Linux cultists for being such gigantic Valve cocksuckers just because they were the only ones to throw you any crumbs of good hardware in the last decade. Linux gaming is still shit because you are tethered to Steam if you don't want to do retarded console voodoo you were apparently supposed to not experience nowadays and it's shit.
>>737792415Original xbox360 and PS1 controllers are the only ones that are build like tanks.New xbox contollers are cardboard in comparison
>>737791809>>737791856Frfr no cap ongDo uncs really need a good d-pad placementFr who needs that?
WINSISSIES.... OUR RESPONSE?
>>737808363You can get what are pretty much just better versions of Proton using a program called ProtonPlus on Linux. It lets you download them with a few clicks without ever installing Steam and to use them you can use one of a few programs, like Heroic Launcher or Lutris. I also agree that despite what my original post said, I do think the controller should support xinput and direct input for backward compatibility reasons, even though xinput needs to die.Some of the wording in my screenshot implies you need Steam for them to work, but you dont.
>>737808363>All I want is to be able to run software without a need to use Steam.You can install and run proton games without Steam. The easiest way is with ProtonUp.
>>737808709>>737808805>ProtonPlus>umuAll I ever heard is Lutris and Bottles. Would be great if people finally agreed upon what to use and recommend for once. When I tested Linux gaming I didn't knew that you could download Proton through other means so I had to reset my "last offline" count because Steam is a dogshit platform. I don't want to track my gaming time, I don't want to be online, I just want to run local software online and Valve simply does not respect that.As for the whole Steam Controller debacle, first, Valve should make an independent Steam Input package that doesn't require the entire client to use. You'll have to use it to configure the gyro and touchpads for individual games. Second, there should be community-made alternatives for it that are cross-platform. I know that antimicroX exists but it's been dead for a while and every other alternative has been dead also.I know that for example when it comes to Logitech mice with their proprietary protocols, on Windows you have Mouser, and on Linux you have Solaar, so the community can create alternatives like this that work, where both OS users get something. And we'll desperately need that for the Steam Controller because fuck Valve and fuck their client.
>>737808949I think its because Lutris, Bottles, Heroic Launcher as well as ProtonPlus and ProtonUp are mostly just as good as each other. I've personally had more issues with Bottles than its worth, so I wouldnt recommend it, the other two are interchangeable.
>>737809032Wish I knew about ProtonUp/ProtonPlus before I reminded myself why Valve bootlickers need their teeth kicked in. Seriously, fuck Valve, and fuck the Steam client. That native Linux driver won't mean shit if no games will have native support for it and for any meaningful per-game configurations you'll still be tethered to their client.
>Xcucx mad that Steam has their own controllers nowYou know Steam isn't gonna drop support for your preferred controllers, right? Just because they have their own one now.
>>737809120Heres hoping whoever makes their own software for the controller adds profile support, even if its manual.
>>737808363https://github.com/Faugus/faugus-launcher/
>>737809335>madJust about every form of anger around this controller I've seen so far is either /g/ manufacturing OS war shit or /v/ manufacturing console war shit. Way to go, just turn everything into a perpetual conflict and then complain why everything is so bad.>>737809369Just about every mapping software worth a salt should have them. For example Mouser has per-program profile functionality much like Logi Options+, and it's not something that's a herculean task to pull off. With AutoHotkey scripts you just define what hotkeys should be active when a given windows is focused for example, Windows/X11/Wayland already gives you all the info needed to pull it off.
>>737802826Emulators use SDL for gamepad input and SDL supports non-xinput controllers including the Deck builtin ones.
>>737809419>FAG-US
>>737796532anon has baby hands
>>737791753xbox series with tmr sticks and chatpad
>>737791659I'll stick to my 10 year old xbox controller.
>>737808363>I have to download steam AND THEN ALL MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY WILL SEE THAT IVE BEEN ONLINE!You sound insufferable. Kill yourself
>>737813235Explain to me why a game launcher should have a bunch of social media functions and stat tracking attached to it with no way to opt out of them.
>>737801976Dualsense Edge is definitely a 9.5, but not a 10Xbox a 6 and I'm feeling generous
>>737813310Explain to me why you shouldn't kill yourself. And you're going to have to say what social media and stat tracking you're sperging out about. Oh no, this game launcher has dedicated forums that I can use to troubleshoot issues, report bugs, and game guides
>>737796532Good choice anon. Although I'd say that the DualShock 4 is even better.
>>737816319Explain to me why I should listen to (You).
>>737791659>Steam Machine DOA because they forgot to buy RAM>controller is not price competitive with the average chink copy which has pretty much everything but the trackpads>you just know a chink will copy the design, including the trackpad for half in 3 monthsLifetime sales of a few thousand... Yes, what a victory.
99USD was already pretty bad but>149CADlmao
>>737791753Probably the ps4 controller, because it works with everything
>>737816661stop complaining
>>737816823what the fuck does valve have against polacks
>>737817045nothingit's an EU country so it gets EU pricing, just converted to a round number in their currency
>>7378167475 hour battery life and uses bluetooth
>>737791659>you lost.who?
>>737817406Literally no problems with both things you mentioned, and its pros outweighs its cons by a mile>Sturdy>The button design allows you to play every kind of game with good results. Xbox layout sucks at fighting games>PS4,PS3,PS5,PC compatibility>Touchpad that can be used for mouse hovering or extra buttons>Has an audio jack as well and an ext port for keyboard>Its sixaxxis allows you to use it as a primitive Wii controller>Bluetooth and battery are decent>Less prone to drift than ps5/nuXbox controllers>Compatible with hall effect joystick mechanismThe dualshock 4 is literally the 10/10 controller
>>737791659What are these rectangles for?
>>737819093what are the oranges for? i hope it tasted good, let me know what you guys think
>>737791753it's a dildo
>>737794454>your hands are symmetricalExactly, that's why you want the left stick to be on top so that you don't have to hold the controller in an asymmetrical way. How are there so many retards like you who can't even imagine holding a controller?
>>737801917The point is that it's better.
>>737804481Yeah, and the way you hold a symmetrical controller is not symmetrical, because - you should know that. Imagine an apple, imagine that apple rotating while having human hands and playing a 3D game.
>>737791659Doesn't work outside Steam, enjoy getting scammed retard.
>>737794893If perfect symmetry is unnatural then how do you explain pearls?
>>737819347Instead of turning it on and playing, you'll spend hours setting it up.
>>737801824i believe you mean this sir>found one in my friends closet, scored it for $15
>>737808204>Windows still hold >90% of global computer market share.67% and dropping.
Games should only be played with a mouse and keyboard.
I will get the next LIGHT controller to release with a PUCK.
>>737801824i still have this bad boy tucked awaytoo bad it's basically dead, being gameport only
>>737791659 K
>>737818150Would be 10/10 if it had hall sticks and usb c. The usb port is horrible.
My 15 year old 360 controller still looks brand new while my PS5 controller is disintegrating. Shit battery life. The haptic triggers are broken. The rubber on the stick peels off. It's baffling how bad modern controllers are.
>>737821069The haptic triggers were specced with built-in flaw. All of them eventually break.
>>737791659The huge trackpad space doesn't look comfortable
>>737808204Microsoft is the best saar!!
>>737791659okay how is the d-pad? Just by looking at it the xbox one seems way better
>>737791659It looks good. I just have a policy of not buying controllers for more than 60 bucks
>>737791753>all these muh 10/10 controller replies>no trackpadslmao consoleniggers
>>737791659FUCKING LET ME BUY IT ALREADY GABEN YOU FAT OVERWEIGHT ROUND BULGING MASSIVE TOWERING SUBSTANCIAL LUMPISH INFLATED LARGE IMPOSING MOUNTAINOUS COLOSSAL PLUMP GINORMOUS HUGE MONOLITHIC WALLOPING CYCLOPEAN MEATY CORPULENT MONUMENTAL HULKING BOUNDLESS LEVIATHAN BLUBBERY HUMONGOUS VAST GIGANTESQUE OBESE IMMEASURABLE MONSTROUS VOLUMINOUS IMMENSE PUDGY ELEPHANTINE SIZABLE BROBDINGNAGIAN FLABBY HEAVY OVERSIZED CONSIDERABLE HEFTY BLOATED TUBBY BIG-BONED ROTUND GARGANTUAN WELL-FED LARDWHALE NIGGER
The trackpad for mouse is horrendous as it changes the input on the game to controller or mouse and keyboard and then back. Am I wrong?
>>737821994I hope you put it in your cart already
>>737792243Seems that way. I have it in my cart and it gives me a shipping estimate.
>>737822224Naturally.
>>737792645>lolit says 3-5 days
>>737822110most games let you use controller and mouse input simultaneously, and if for some reason it doesn't, you can use steam input to rebind all the buttons as keyboard inputs
>>737794726didn't it use directinput, which is flat out superior to xinput but that microsoft deliberately deprecated in favour of an inferior spec?
Seriously why are trannies so upset about a $100 quality controller? This is a very reasonable price.
>>73779175310/10. Basically a 360/XSX controller in feel (even down to the clicky d-pad) but with internals that are lightyears better (960hz bluetooth, 1000hz+ wired, TMR sticks, Hall Effect triggers, in-built mouse to gyro, rapid fire, etc).
>>737822532it doesn't ship to the third world
>>737791753Now that Xinput is less overbearing shit that ruins all control schemes, probably the Steam Controller 0.5, but with Steam Controller 2 back buttons and build quality, as well as some more face buttons.>>737818150It is a 7/10 controller. That doesn't mean that any other conventional controller is better, it just means that something like Xbawks shit is a 3/10.
Waiting for real world rveiews about using it on non Steam games. Conflicting reports that it can't be used as a controller/it's used as a mouse without Steam open and vice versa.If it's true this is useless to me. I buy everything from GOG if I can, a lot of the games I play don't come from Steam, I can go a couple of weeks not playing Steam games at a time. (No I'm not adding every fucking game to Steam to "fix" this)Not buying it at all if it doesn't work as a controller outside of Steam and Valve doesn't have plans to change that.
>>737822532It doesn't do anything beyond a normal 30-40 dollar controller that I care about besides TMR sticks but that is more a problem with how shit official pad QC is. If they had ps5 style adaptive triggers id be more into it
>>737791753Gamesir
>>737791659Will I be able to play Fortnite with this?
>>737796369>Why wouldn't the left stick be placed where my left thumb naturally rests?It is though. Try actually holding one and you'll see why they didn't cram it into the top left corner.
>>737823734Don't fall for this, buttons are cheap as shit and the battery is like 6 hours and takes a while to charge
>>737807862>have a problem>people point out a solution>wtf why do you have to make the solution your whole personality
I don't understand why you would purchase a controller that only works on PC when you can spend less and get one just as good that works on a console and PC. How many people really only have a PC and no consoles? I'd imagine almost no one.
One of the undersold features of this controller is the battery life IMO. 30+ hours is greatOne of those little annoyances that really change how you feel about a controller. PS5 controllers not even going 5 hours some days and a ton of third party controllers shooting just a little above that (i.e. any gamesaar) just sucks.
>>737824386dumb post because consoles have inherent limitations such as not allowing high polling rates so unless you find a controller which goes the extra mile to have a physical toggle for pc or console, it's not the worth the extra expense for manufacturers.
>>737824174blody benchod bich sir
>>737791659>mfw people still genuinely don't seem to understand the point of this gamepadIt's there to replace M&K while giving you the console couch experience. Trackpads are there so you can play anything mouse-driven.
>>737824456Those numbers probably go way down when vibration and shit is turned on.
>>737824586but what about adaptive triggers? i'll miss it when i boot up astrobot...
>>737823410>It doesn't do anything beyond a normal 30-40 dollar controller that I care aboutThat's fine. Just means you're not the target audience. Do you understand that different people want different things and not every single product has to cater to your exact needs and wants?
>>737791659I want to be mad at future battery problems versus just plopping in new AAs, but it's apparently easy to replace.
>>737794893Dude, normal humans don't have a left thumb two inches longer than the right one
>>737824642GN was able to get it to run with the controller ALWAYS vibrating for over 24 hours. 30+ is a conservative estimate
>>737824552Anyone who cares about input latency is going to use a KB/Mouse unless it's a platformer, and the D-Pad on the Steam controller isn't even that good compared to other brands.
>>737796532Too small, kills wrists.
>>737824783I still would prefer to have a bunch of eneloops for my peripherals, but it is what it is.
>>737808014>Why are the touchpads slantedBecause your hands are slanted too when holding it. This makes it so the horizontal of the trackpads is more in line with the horizontal of your thumb movements.
>>737824642>>737824837LTT got around 37 hours with the sticks taped whole driving around off road in Forza, so constant input and rumble.GamersNexus got around 70 with just rubber bands on the sticks using controller polling software, no rumble.
>>737824386>I don't understand why you would purchase a controller that only works on PC when you can spend less and get one just as good that works on a console and PCThere is not a single controller that's just as good, but even ignoring that, why would I need a controller that works on console?
>>737825701Brb setting an alarm in May
>>737824386>How many people really only have a PC and no consoles? I'd imagine almost no one.I certainly don't.
>>737824386>I don't understand why you would purchase a controller that only works on PCI don't understand why you would purchase a controller with PC only functionality and choose to use it with a console for which you already have a controller
>>737826495> with a console for which you already have a controllerDon't you have friends? Guess not, I doubt anyone who purchases a Steam controller does
>>737826530friends to play what? nonexistent coop games?
>>737823736No because it only works within the Steam environment so you have to wait for it be hacked
>>737826530The only system with even the slightest amount of co-op games left on it are Nintendo ones and most people already have at least 4 for their Switch they've likely had for over 6 years at this point.
>>737821957>muh trackpadI, too, love using a laptop from 2004
>>737827739laptops have trackpads that let you use the other fingers of that hand on other buttons?
>>737827828yes
>>737791659>stick bottom it's shit
>>737791659truly unbeatable paperweight
>>737819416This argument from asymmfags always relies on you only using your controller in one single way, like the d-pad doesn't exist. Listen dumb fuck, if your right hand is able to swap between the right stick and the ABXY positions without issue, then your left hand is able to do the same exact thing. BECAUSE THEY'RE SYMMETRICAL.
>>737791659>you lostBut I'm not an tendie, I'm boughting the Steam controller day 1.
>>737828045hope it's already in your cart
>>737791753Same controller, but 60$
>>737791856>Just make the D-pad homosexual and useless broNo thanks.
>>737791856Shove your alien hands in your asshole and stop writing shit takes. Symmetrical sticks are the correct design choice.
>>737796369The right stick is used 90% of the time in modern games. Why wouldn't the right stick be placed where my right thumb naturally rests?
>>737791659Vader 4 Pro has been serving me well for more than a year now, battery capacity is pretty low though but it's pretty solid
>>737791659>You???why would I, the customer, lose here?
one thing i havent seen anyone mention is how using trackpads feels kinda clumsy at 60fps, and is very clumsy below 60fps. obviously 30fps its impossiblebut if you can get like 80+fps its really fun and better than a joystick in basically any case except games with very strong autoaim like call of duty or GTA/RDRyou wont be really competitive with keyboard and mouse players in most types of games but its still great
Driftingsisters chinkshitbros we lost
>>737828094It will be.
>>737828402>he doesn't know
>>737827898no, they don'tyou can't do anything but use the touchpad with that handtouchpads are a downgrade to mice, 'eck and 'roller trackpads are a sidegrade
>>737828394
>>737791659does it have mechanical face buttons? if not, it's not the controller to beat
>>737828453>no you don't get it valve trackpads are magic easily as good as a mousedelusional
>>737828474
>>737791659Why would I get a controller that has terrible haptics overall and no haptic triggers? Like, why? I'd rather buy a dualsense every month than settling for an inferior experience with good build quality.
>>737828419
>>737828516never said thatthey're a sidegrade because that hand has access to more buttons than what's on a mouse in exchange for some precision
>>737828602>access to more buttons than what's on a mouseyou haven't seen those MMO mice, I take it?
>>737828562use the add to cart button here (I think it needs steam login + extension)https://steamdb.info/sub/1558609/
>>737791659What's with the completely unergomanic design? Those huge wastes of space before the sticks shouldn't be there.
>>737828649you mean shit no one uses because it's not actually ergonomic or comfortable to press them?
>>737828798>I've never heard of it therefore nobody uses itok
>>737828667i did itcontinue to payment does nothing
>>737791753The Steam Frame controllers
>>737794563I remember being poor. Like you.
>>737802362Pay $100.>>737802826Perform the cuck ritual.>xinputYou VILL choose quantity of features over convenience.
>>737828897yeah, did you think they'd let you buy it before the date?this is just to avoid having to do the extra action of adding to cart when the store is going to lag because of everyone wanting to buy iton the day you can just spam the button until it goes through, they might open the orders very slightly before you can click the button (or at least CDN shit will make that happen)
>>737791659>Bad buttons>Bad triggers>Bad joysticks>Valve wonhow
>>737802362i mean use mouse and keyboard then. if you have access to a mouse and keyboard then you don't need this controller. it would be revolutionary on anything other than pc but it's on pc so lol.
>>737807616>heavythis nigger has noodle arms.
>>737828667Installed the plugin but it still doesn't make the ATC usable. Guess I'll just hope I can get it on launch day.
>>737829030oh ok sweet awesome thank you based
>>737828854>they exist so they're relevant
>>737829059>Bad joysticksTMR is bad now? Since whan?
>>737824586Why would I need to replicate mouse and keyboard? I'm playing a video game not making a spreadsheet.
>>737829190your opinion isn't relevant
>>737829146did you log in via steam too?
>>737829264Yes.
>>737829238neither is yours if you're comparing laptop touchpads to steam controller trackpads
>>737829264
>>737829303>>737829359no idea, then
>>737829352>steam controller trackpads>relevant
>>737829881more relevant than mmo mice will ever be
>>737830454if you say so
>>737828094>>737828419>>737828667Stop telling people about the cart trick or it loses all meaning when everybody does it.
>>737830630there's like 6 threads atmI'm not telling it to everybody, just sprinkling it here and there to help out brosI'm not getting it anyway, or if I do that's in the frame+controller bundle
>>737828529>inferior experienceThat's the dualsense. The trackpads are in a shitty unergonomic position and it has no back buttons, capacitive sticks or grip sense. All of those are primary features that directly impact how you control the game, while the adaptive triggers, although nice, are a secondary feature that only effects how you experience the game.
>>737791659I'm going to lose $99
>>737813389The price alone keeps the Edge below a 7.
>>737796532based
>>737808707Just like the ultra optimised build for the Asus Xbox Ally?
>>737791659Awful grip
>>737796923> pic reltop kek
Yeah I don't know, can the pads be use as buttons?
>>737831860Yeah. Virtual touch menus with any number of buttons between 1 and 16 each. Also for aiming/mouse control and directional swipes if you need less actions than the touch menu but quicker.
>>737808709god i love linux & open-source devs. there's literally a solution for any problem you encounter
I dont see the point of the trackpads, why not just get a ds4, or 8bitdo ultimate? 8bitdo if you want the 360 layout, or pro 2 if you want ps stick layout.
>>737829201I love this picture of Omi Gibson, she still does cosplay occasionally
Is it dongle or bluetooth only?
>>737832669>I dont see the point of the trackpadsAiming and touch menus are the main uses. Generally they just allow more options to control games.>ds4Because the trackpad is in an unergonomic position. It also has no capacitive sticks, back buttons or grip sense.>8bitdo ultimateBecause it has no trackpads, capacitive sticks or grip sense and only 2 back buttons.>pro 2Because it has no trackpads, capacitive sticks or grip sense and only 2 back buttons.
>>737833092Both.
>>737833092wired, dongle, or bluetooth
>>737833196Good, I'll probably buy if my Xbox controllers ever die
Trackpads? Why do you need trackpads? Just use a mouse.Gyro? Why do you need gyro? Just use your thumbstick.Battery life? Why do you need battery life? Just use a charger.SDL? Why do you need SDL? Just use XInput.Repairability? Why do you need repairability? Just buy another chinkpad (good this time, we swear)Bluetooth, USB, or terrific latency 2.4g wireless? Why do you need those? Just use your keyboard.
>>737817406> uses bluetoothhonest question: what's wrong with bluetooth?
>>737833125>Because it has no trackpads, capacitive sticks or grip sense and only 2 back buttons.Are the back buttons those two useless things near the handles I always touch and don't even do anything? They wasted dev time on that shit and I never use the things. All the stuff you listed is useless garbage nobody cares about.
>>737833476>retarded jeet starts pretending he knows about back buttons while shilling for controllers without themyou don't use them because you don't HAVE them
>>737833476>Are the back buttons those two useless things near the handlesThey're the buttons on the back of the controller. Pretty self explanatory.>I always touch and don't even do anythingYou have to map them to something first since games don't natively support them.>They wasted dev time on that shit and I never use the thingsI guess you can make do with a cheaper, worse controller then. Good for you!>All the stuff you listed is useless garbage nobody cares about.Wrong. You don't care. Plenty of people do.
>>737800498I swear some people really started believing that GabeN is Santa Clause or some shit because how the fuck did they expect this controller to cost the same as a basic xbox one or ps5 one? Shit, some people thought it would be around $50
>>737793428no rumble
>>737834138Rumble is a waste of money and another useless gimmick just like trackpads, gyro, back buttons, and everything else. All a controller needs is a d-pad, four face buttons, four shoulder buttons, start, select, and optionally two analog sticks.
>>737834525You're a total faggot.
>>737791659I'm probably buying one and the only thing that makes me hesitate is the need to run non-steam games through steam if I want to play them with this.
>>737791659Reminder that this doesn't emulate xinput.Reminder that you NEED to run your games or emulators via steam for it to work.
First DRM controller
BEHOLD>Fully XInput compatible>Infinite battery life>No gimmicks like gyro, rumble, or extra buttons>Buttons, thumbsticks, and dpad only get shinier with age>Can find these bad boys for pennies at a local garage sale
>>7377917538bitdo ultimate 2 wireless
>>737835026Retarded stick placement.0/10
>>737835026yes, that's why all the best 3rd party controllers are based on this design. the longevity of this design is amazing.
>>7378352213rd party controllers have much higher build quality thoughever
>>737834525I disagree. Rumble is a gimmick but it makes the experience better. Only issue is battery life for wireless controllers.
>>737824586>Playing any FPS on a trackpad instead of just connecting a mouse>Playing touch screen games on a trackpad instead of the actual screenJust make a joycon clone.
>>737835102Shit>>737835026Mega shit
Why so boxy. Make the handles a bit longer and flare out some more.
>no xinput >no hair or dual stage triggers>cheap feeling plastic>bad dpad and bumpers>mushy face buttons>250hz polling rate>bad ergonomics>9/10kekkin
>>737835318You use the gyro for FPS. The trackpads are for like, RTS and shit.
>>737791659bump for the fatass troonix goymer
>>737835318This shit is awful,.What were they thinking when they did that?
>>737835358How many rupies is gamesaar paying you?
>>737835358also>no additional shoulder buttonsDROPPED
>>737835270they have to, to differentiate themselves from the basic xbox controller which is the default option for the majority of gamers.
>>737791659I only lose if the controller sells out before I can buy it.
>>737835026Best dpad by far, playing fighting games with this is majestic.
>>737835358>bad dpad????
>>737791659horrible dpad
>>737835358Giant bomb said the dpad is fighter approved and passes contra test. Buttons are nice and quiet too.
>>737835434for repeating what Linus said in his review?
>>737835512>LinusOh, so you're just a retard.
I dont get the seethe. It's only just a controller. You dont need it. Dont buy it and move on. I thought you were better than this, Chuddha.
I don't understand what makes a dpad goor or bad. I deslike all of them.
why is anyone spending their money on this I could think of 100 better uses for 100usd. The 8bitdo ultimate 2c is on sale for 18.99 btw
Chink companies are panicking and running a smear campaign on the Valve controller, aren't they?
>>737835562>not gobbling up literal shit like a good goy makes your retarded
>>737835581Steam machine reignited console war culture I'm all for it
>>737835512>Linus. yellofiever, Sebastianoy vey
>>737835664>not gobbling up literal shit like a good goy you mean like taking your opinions from an actual sellout faggot?
>NOOO LEAVE MY GOD(GABEN) GIVEN PIECE OF CHINESE PLASTIC ALONE!!11
>>737835664Don't you have 70 dollar screwdrivers to shill?
>>737835369that sounds awful
>valve trannies complain about controllers for decades and claim the only good way to play games is mouse + keyboard>valve releases a $100 controller with DRM so it can only be used through steam, that means games in other platforms like gamepass don't work at all with the controller>valve trannies forget all they complained about controllers and overpriced slop to shill it like it's the second coming of christ because they're desperate to suck gabe's boots
>>737835642this. 100 dollars can feed my family for months
>>737835719wouldn’t he be shilling this thing then? also most complaints are facts. like the dogshit 250hz polling rate, no xinput, no hair triggers, no mechanical buttons, bad ergonomics etc.
>>737835649They're afraid. The controller is too perfect, too well thought out. You buy one steam controller, and you'll never need to buy a chinkpad again.
>>737835842>with DRM so it can only be used through steamWinjeet problems.
>>737835649No companies are as innovated as the Chinese anymore. The controllers from gamesir, flydigi, 8bitdo are the ones pushing the industry forward. Hell the eventual release of the leadjoy ultra will crush the stream controller innovation wise
>>737835871This. I'm brown and live in a hut in the mountains of Peru, 100$ for a controller is just too much
>>737835970What do Chinese controllers have that's more innovative than fully functional dual trackpads?
>>737835970>are as innovatedok chang
>>737813389>Dualsense Edge is definitely a 9.5,>A controller built for le immersion instead of playing gameslollmao
>>737835881>dogshit 250hz polling rate,do you have a 240hz monitor? because that's where you're getting one extra frame of input delay at most from itas a 500hz oled owner i can say that it doesn't fucking matter>no xinput,i don't care about your windian problems, install the white man's os>no hair triggersuseless>bad ergonomicscoming from linus tech tips's scrawny baby hands?
>>737835897If you removed those big useless squares on the front shorted the handles to compensate then it'd be fine. They're in the way so you can't even reach the buttons without having freakishly long fingers.
>>73783602680000 Hz polling rate and three hour battery life
>>737836026Price, higher polling rate, mechanical buttons, dual gyro which will be like boost from going laser to optical in mice. There are already chinese controllers coming that is fully modular and you can add a stupid touchpad module if you want.
>>737836119>hair triggers>uselesswithout them you have insane delay on every shot you take in arc raiders, for example
>>737819768Second time I had to post this today.Are you a woman, or just dumb as a rock?
>>737836119if even his babby thumbs touch because of the bad stock positions, then my huge white hands will never gonna make it. thanks for doubling down on that
>>737835956>Winjeet>>737836119>windianthe lack of self awareness is astounding
>>737836408>source: my ai ass
>>737835842Because it's decades later you moron. Controllers still suck ass for shooters and other games. To the point they have to crutch up on BS aim assist. Being the average console baby and/or controller user is just so shit at gaming they want aimbot help. It's absolutely pathetic and should not even be an option except in single player games on a retard setting. but it's also decades later with tons of indie games and weird unique games that are better with a controller. So more options is good. Ask me 10 years ago when I was a FPS only player I would have said controllers are pointless too.
>>737836408>scatcounter datayou lost faggotread and learn
The touchpads are a retarded gimmick like the vita's>muh precisionyou already have a working mouse>muh aimingif you need to aim on a controller that bad you can use many controllers with gyro for a fraction of the price
>>737835506it looks exactly like the Steam Deck dpad which is horse shit so i'll believe it when i see it. which i won't because buying a £85 game controller is oil baron shit... there's rich nepos in saudi arabia fucking instagram models in their luxury apartments who wouldn't drop that much money on a gamepadany reviewer who doesn't bring up the dpad quality is a fake gamer btw. which is almost all of them
>>737836407Stock = sticksee, that’s what being a white 6‘8“ chad does to you
>>737822546>$30>Literal grammar errors on its Amazon pagePost yearly income.
>>737834789Reminder that emulators all use SDL, which this supports.Reminder that you are a faggot.
>>737836275They are hall effect triggers so you set them to have rappid trigger like function that is even faster than any mechanical stopper. Even mouse are going to move into a linear conductive switch with no tactile bump. The future is customizable actuation with instant reset on lift off
>>737836519it's real. the entire indian government uses linux as well
>no xinputIt goes into trash.
>hair triggers uselesslol imagine if your mouse buttons had 300mm of travel before activating. that’s what happens without hair triggers and no way to change trigger dead zones in most games
>>737836180>he can't reach the left xbox stick
>>737836694>it's real, they use linux>source: brown.edunigger, every single metric shows that jeets are severely underrepresented on linux and that they don't own computershttps://flathub.org/en/statisticsgo on, calculate downloads per capita
>>737834932>Fully XInput compatibleThat's a negative though.>Infinite battery life You can also use the SC plugged in.>No gimmicks like gyro, rumble, or extra buttonsNot a single one of those is a gimmick. It's a shit controller and you have a SEVERE case of sourgrapeitis.>Can find these bad boys for pennies at a local garage sale$100 bucks might as well be pennies too with how often you'll be using it.
>>737835956No one cares about your failed contrarian OS
>>737836743why does the one in the middle look like picrel
>>737836743>controller version of wearing your pants up to your nipples
The XInput angle is hilarious to me because every premium controller has been developing their own app on windows to use half the new buttons, gyro or features on their controllers...because XInput doesn't support shit.
>>737836742Superstrike says hi
>>737836989It's all they have to detract from it.
>>737835358>no xinputThat's a good thing.>no hair or dual stage triggersYeah that kinda suck I admit. Not that big of a deal though.>cheap feeling plasticDoesn't matter as long as the shape is good.>bad dpad and bumpersWas this actually mentioned in the reviews? I haven't watched any. The leaked review apparently said the dpad is better than the 'eck and the bumpers look better.>mushy face buttonsIt really doesn't matter.>250hz polling rateYeah that kinda sucks too, but again, it's not that big of a deal.>bad ergonomics Straight up wrong.>9/10 Yeah it's more like a 10/10.
>>737836854Nintendo games part of a whole vegan diet.
>>737836556I just said giant bomb and they show cased it dumb fuck
>>737837252nice try eric but I know you are the eric that is everyone who ever hurts my beloved nintendo
>>737836548Even assuming what you said was true, how do I get anything equivalent to touch menus on a controller without trackpads?
What the fuck is the point of the trackpads for a PC controller? Just use the fucking KBM
>>737821057You can either solder a type C port, or pick the easy way and buy a cheap microUSB to TypeC adapter. Thats what I did and I have no issues whatsoever>>737822950>It is a 7/10 controllerReally? Whats a 10/10 controller for you then
>>737831341yeah i won't deny it, it's overpriced bud sadly it's still the best we've got>>737836086immersion IS part of playing games, retard
>>737834932since your example is a 30 y/o controller, surely you use that on a 30 y/o pc right? It already exists, why would you get a new one? or upgrade with unnecessary gimmicks
>>737835318the true solution is a steam controller split in half like joycons. this way you can do one handed gyro without messing with movement controls. touchpads fix the shitty joystick issue you see on vr controllers or joycons
>>737835369gyro = track pads. you use both together not one or the other. gyro + joystick works too
>>737822224what the FUCK did he mean by this? How do you get it in your cart?
>>737836854the level of irony on this is incredible. >ugh annoying steamie>let me be cattle in peace!
>>737838110read the thread
>>737838110Don't read the thread.>>737838247Shh. The cart trick won't help if everyone knows about it. It's still almost a week and at this rate everyone will know.
>>737822110this is an issue due to most players using traditional controllers, game devs focus on those controllers. Many games dont allow mouse + gamepad input, only one or the other. In those cases you need to choose if you want gamepad (no mouse aiming) or m+kb on the controller (no joystick movement, no analog triggers). Some games allow both but have issues with the ui swapping between the input methods. days gone in particular has this issue, but allows you to set ui settings to stick to one. side note, days gone photo mode is the best photo mode out there. all photo modes should allow you to capture a shot at a higher resolution than the display allows
Who cares about some cart trick when it's going to be one per account?
I bought an Xbone controller for like $40 on sale many years ago and see literally no reason to upgrade
>>737796661Why the fuck are the buttons so small?
>>737835970Listen Bingbing Weihu, stop copying xbox shit and just make a complete copy of the Switch 1 pro controller's layout, form factor and feel, but with a good SNES-like dpad, TMR sticks and analog triggers. It should also be easy to open and I want to use my ENELOOP AA BATTERIES. To any chink company who is willing to make this 10/10 controller, I WILL it.
>>737838621it's 2 per orderthus probably 2/acc/week
>>737836279why not both?
>>737838621If the servers get seriously overloaded, it could take minutes to even add it to your cart. Having it already there will let you skip that and go straight to checkout.
>>737838950Will buy it that is, I would never pirate this controller.
>>737836408it's not about use. it's about who is doing the coding.
>>737791659>IGN paid reviewYou valve cocksuckers keep finding new lows
Controllers are for children. Get a mouse and keyboard and a sim racing rig for your racing needs.
>>737839740>check github>most submissions are from AI using pajeetsyeah true
>>737838193>cattle calling others cattleHeh
>>737840289cattle are sacred to the jeets
>Valve OWNS the patent for modular controller parts>Releases a second controller that doesn't let you swap the sticks with the d-pad/buttons
>>737842462well that's retarded. wonder how long they're going to sit on that
>>737808617Ayo that retro old-school classic hidden gem of yesteryear gaming has rizz frfr dpad should be the primary control no cap ong. I tuck my penis and cosplay as Toriel.
>>737791753Gamesir G7 Pro
>>737791753I legit love this controller. I use it on PC.
>>737842462
Tim was playing chess while Gabe was playing checkersGabe was playing Monopoly while Tim was playing Mouse TrapI fucking kneel, dude.
>>737843465Xbox controller is the GOAT of PC controllers>First steam controller had a weird flat dpad and one analog stick>second steam controller only works with steamValve should stay in their lane and stop making hardware
>The objectively best company wonGood.
>>737836548>If you need precision on controller that bad get one with gyroIt has gyro you contrarian retard
>>737808363This is a completely reasonable post, and my evidence is how only one person shit posted at it. Genuinely, you should consider sending your thoughts to valve so they can implement changes to fix your issues.
>>737847212it's a clueless post of someone that didn't even try, you can download proton off all the gamer software in your repoyou can completely bypass steam in one sudo
I play ffxiv with mods and the xiv launcher. Is that "through steam"? Will the controller work with it? It says im on the game when I play it
>>737816445>heavier>worse batterywhy?
>>737822294How'd you do that?
