how can sonyfags unironically defend this?
>>737792353I dont pay attention because I pay my internet
>>737792353by blaming nintendo obviously
nintendo fucking won. holy shit.
>>737792353>oh no I have to connect my console that's always connected to the internet to the internet once a month
>>737792387>>737792353>>737792420>>737792417Nintendo puts pirates in jail
Niggers keep posting this faggot shit despite it being debunked days ago
>>737792387>>737792431why do i have to go online to play with games that i bought with my money????
>>737792353The only people complaining about this are thirdies who can only afford internet for one hour every two months
If you don't have internet in 2026 you have bigger things to worry about then video games. Or you're on vacation
>>737792513>>737792565i bought the game. why do i have to go online? it's my game.
>>737792469If that was true then all of the pirates in /v/ would be incarcerated right now! /v/ would be a ghost town.The more you know!
>>737792353I actually am always offline unless I need to update my games. Anyone who thinks that there aren't any people playing offline in 2026 are just dumb. There can be plenty of reasons to play your console offline. For me the internet is constantly in use from other family members. So I see no real reason to play online especially since I am not paying for any PSN accounts atm. I have no interest in these crappy shooters that gouge consumers of their money. There is very little worth for me in playing online. I play single player games.
Steam has identical anti-piracy mechanisms.
>>737792353By deflecting to steam and Nintendo while also downplaying the issue immenselySaw this reply chain while I was scrolling for gundam stuff.
>>737792624To download it retard you bought a digital copy
>>737792680i have it installed. i shouldn't have to go online anymore. it's mine.
>>737792353>Xbox tranny with xer FUD againBuy an ad
>>737792728It's an online game you knew what you paid for buy getting it
>>737792884no, i bought a single player game. i want to play offline. i shouldn't have to go online. are you implying the game isn't mine???
>>737792654Nobody reads the Steam TOS. If they did, they'd know that if something is removed from the Steam Store then it is removed from your library if your hardware changes.
>>737792941I upgraded to a new pc two months ago and still have all my shit. Lying is a sin anon.
>>737792993Why bootlick for a company that doesn't care about you?
>>737792654steam still lets me play my games offline even after 30 days. stop deflecting.
I dont really give a fuck as I never replay games. I just finish the story and move on and go weeks or months before playing the next big single player game.
>>737792919>are you implying the game isn't mine???It's not. It's Sony's.
>>737793040The licence says we own our instance of the game and Sony only owns the property. This is also in the EULA.
>>737793040>snoys dont even own the games they buyLMFAOOO
>>737793020>you're a lying faggot >U ARE BOOTLICKERSo that's how it's gonna be
you'll still buy it anywaythis is why competition is a good thing. MS got punished hard for their original X1 plans and they never recoveredhow would Sony be punished for this? are you gonna buy an Xbox now? lol
>>737792941No retard, if a game is delisted then everyone who bought it can still redownload itThe only time that happens is when someone affiliated with the game starts throwing lawsuits around Why do you snoys write those fanfics?
>>737792941Having to lie about something in a place where so many people can effortlessly prove you wrong is just embarrassing
snoys are actually cattle. lol.
>>737792680Why the fuck are you buying digital games? Physical copies are cheaper.
>>737793152If that were true, then Valve is participating in piracy. Once a license to publish has been revoked, a retailer must stop providing access to new downloads.
>>737793251Retard
>>737793265Explain. This 30 day thing does not apply to physical games.
>>737793258>get btfo>actually steam is now piracy Holy cope. Literally anything to defect from snoy taking away your games huh.
>>737793258It is true Stop trying to be an armchair lawyer Rocket league is delisted and yet 22k are playing it on steam right now
>>737792353Being unable to own and resell your own property is damaging to the human psyche. It’s just fundamental to human civilization
>>737793258That's new purchases retard. Owners of the license still have full rights to the last available version.Here's another delisted game because it was replaced by the directors cut.
>>737793470No one can resell digital games. Not on PSN, not on Steam, not on Nintendo.
>>737793040>your console>in your house>your copy of the game>whose data is on your hard drive>cannot access the 1s and 0s on the physical object that you own without Sony's permissionThere is no reasonable defense for this
>>737793028The fact you have to ask for permission, and the fact you do have to validate it eventually, is still an overreach.
>>737793258>to new downloads.Key words, redownloads aren't considered new.
>>737793408They're playing on Epic, retard.
>>737793642I'm not the defending the retardation, but I bet you don't keep your pc offline all the time.
>>737793574Well, game keys allow you to do it on switch 2
>>737793768That is completely irrelevant to the issue
>>737793787But the restrictions only applies to digital games and you need to be online to download a game in the first place.
>>737793889You need to go to a store to buy a physical game, but that doesn't mean you have to show back up with the receipt every 30 days to keep it.
>>737792431My system has never been online, but this doesn't concern me regardless since i only get physical copies and if i did want digital on a console, it would only be after jailbreaking it.
People are acting like it's 2012 still lol, was a problem 14 years ago, nobody cares now
>>737793932>You need to go to a store to buy a physical gameYou can get that shit off amazon. Or used off ebay. Physical PC games don't even exist anymore outside of walmart hidden object games.
>>737794051Explain why its ok that they do this?
>>737794071You don't have to mail your receipt back and forth to Amazon or your ebay seller every month to keep the copy you ordered. I don't think you understand the point.>>737794096That's a bot, don't bother.
>>737794051>i-it's actually not a big deal, guys.i want to own the games that i bought with my own money.
>>737794096It's not okay, but you act like there is any way to retaliate.
>>737794137>>737794096Because gaming isn’t mainstream anymore and people buy them to play them for barely any amount of time. It’s an old world hobby. Nobody gives a shit about this.
>>737794118You don't understand that physical copies are different from digital. I know its a shitty limitation, but there is no way to fight back other that not buying digital.
>>737794226When you buy physical you're not paying for the disc, you're paying for the data on that disc. Whether you buy a copy of that data burned onto a disc or buy that data over the internet to download directly to your hard drive makes no difference, especially now when every game is installed to the hard drive anyway. The data you bought all ends up on the hard drive that is physically sitting in the console that you physically own. The difference between physical and digital sales is just semantics.
>>737792353probably tangentially related to them being more generous with refunds>buy digital game>go offline>"it doesn't work lmao">money unstolen
>>737792919>no, i bought a single player gameWith the stipulation you must check in every 30 days to use it if purchased after March 2026.>i want to play offlineGood for you.I agree it's shit. The 5 gamers who vote with their wallet will surely change Sony's mind.
>>737792919You bought a game online, yet you refuse to go back online afterwards...
>>737793737They're playing through steam with the versions they got back when the game was on steam, you fucking idiotHow the fuck else would they have steam integration?
>>737794651and that's bad because...?
>>737794716I'm not saying it's bad, just counter-intuitive.
>>737794567>With the stipulation you must check in every 30 days to use it if purchased after March 2026.The fact that people will agree to stipulations like this when there is no alternative proves nothing. The stipulation wasn't there when they bought the device, and if they want to keep using the device they already own they have no choice. It isn't like PC where there's multiple storefronts, so if you don't like Valve's TOS you can buy from GOG or whatever. >>737794651You bought a game at GameStop, yet you refuse to go back to that GameStop on a monthly basis...
>>737793302But does it not affect physical games at all or is it only for physical games that did get inserted in the console?
>>737792353Digital game stores shouldn’t be allowed to call what they do “selling”. They should call it renting or licensing to more accurately describe their product. Thats where all the arguments stem from
>>737794937>As long as they use the right word when swindling you it's fineNo
I wonder how much longer gaming has at this pointI'm already not playing as much as I used to years ago
>>737794875You don't have to go back to game stop because physical games are not tracked.>>737794882It doesn't apply to physical games that you insert in the console i.e. the ones you own copies of or have access to.
>>737792353because they are cultist that will defend whatever sony says
>>737795084>It doesn't apply to physical gamesyet!
>>737795084To clarify, by tracked I mean tied to a specific account.
>>737792387you pay for it twice
>B-BUT NINTENDO!that's all you retards can do huh?
>>737795240it's just game key cards snoy edition
>>737795174I am not denying that future does not exist. Steam's future is not absolute either.
>>737795084What is different about the copy of the 1s and 0s contained on the disc you bought at GameStop versus the copy of the 1s and 0s you bought on PSN that would require it to be tracked? What is the difference between your paying at GameStop versus paying at PSN? Does paying at one store versus another change the nature of paying for an identical copy of identical data to store on the device you physically own?
>>737792661fuck sony cattle I swear
>>737794993Actually it would be fine.>"Do you accept getting swindled for $89.99?" Sounds perfectly accurate to me.
>>737795321Physical binaries can be copied without a network connection. It's a shitty practice and I am not defending it.
>>737792353This move killed Xbone 10 years ago, hope it works out just as well for Sony.
>>737795084But what about those who have not been inserted to the console?
>>737792431And what happens if the internet or power goes out because of maintenance, an outage (so you run on backup battery or generator power for example) or some issue happens during that time? You end up with this fucking paper weight sitting there unable to be used.
sonycultist and them defending this bullshit is going to make gaming even worse for everyone
>>737795449That's why they're doing it now instead of when a new generation is coming in.If they can normalise it on their current console then it's less of an issue when the new console does it because "it wasn't an issue before"
>>737795472They will install without issue. I don't understand what you are asking.
>>737792680>don’t sign in on your console for a few weeks>download stolen
>>737795527Apply that same logic to PC. How are you going to play if there is no power? Is that even your biggest concern at that point? You're grasping at straws.
>>737795582Yeah, I'm unsuprised by this development after the digital only ps5 came out. Remember bros, the slippery slope fallacy is always real unfortunately.
>>737792431>ps ends support for ps5 online services>service that validates license no longer exists >you now own a brick you’re the type of person that won’t know he’s a slave til he’s whipped the second time
>>737792353They don't have any games to play so it's a non issue to them
Because it doesn't matter.Very few people even still use their Playstation 3 in the proper way, that is, connecting to PSN. But you can still do it. I do it. I have all the games I want.In 20 years, very few people will be using their PS5 in the proper way, it will be hacked with people peekin their hens to get delided or whatever they do over there.
>>737795871In 20 years minimum, there is a possibility (slim), that the servers are discontinued.Live now. Stop larping as some cultural archivist.
Sony is giving Stop Killing Games more reasons to exist>nooo if you make me keep the servers up that's SLAVERY!That's right, get back to work sonybro
>>737792417This, this is entirely Nintendo's fault that Sony has to take away your games after 30 days without a proof-of-cumdumpster check
>>737795971This is exactly what Stop Killing Games SHOULD be focusing on instead of live service dumb shit.
Today I will remind themhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA
>>737796005Sony just made every game on their store a live service.
>>737792635this was me until i got a gaming PC i know the vibe comfy single player games with a fuck load of content are the target games
>>737792353What’s the purpose? What’s the business mindset behind this? How does this increase their profits? This seems like a move that purely creates bad will with their customers, I don’t understand why exactly they’d choose to do this. What do they gain?
>>737792353Erm, stop paying attention to what my friends are doing and look at Nintendo's line going down!!!
>>737795970PS2/GC/360 release 20y ago and guess what WE can play this game without problem, see you in 5 years.
>>737796406Indeed you can. The Xbox 360 servers are still up. I just recently bought another one (because you can never have too many 360s) and all my shit down to the worst indie games imagineable were all available for download. And so will the PS5 servers be decades from now.
>>737792353you just know that if nintendo did this, the internet would go nuclear and a million of gaming journo articles and youtube videos would pop up calling people to boycott the switch 2but it's literally ok when sony does it
>>737796005It's a good thing SKG was kept intentionally vague and broadly encompassing so that it applies to any games (or game purchases) that are tied to an online server, which is what the OP is about.
>>737795732No, you are grasping. Hence why I brought up backup power for people like you who still just ignored it anyway.
>>737795527>retarded imaginary scenario where not being able to playing vidya would be the least of your problems
>>737792469I am not in jail.Curious how a Sony thread quickly becomes a Nintendo thread.
>>737792493Sorry snoytranny, it's been rebonked yesterday
>>737792353I already thought this was a thing because it's a thing on xbox and steam. Won't affect me because I only buy physical games for PS5.
>>737797026Its gonna apply to dlc too.And considering games this gen are relasing their goty editions without the dlc on the disc then lots of stuff will be affected.Say you bought re8 gold edition, well its the base game on disc and the gold edition content is a one time use code.That dlc would be subject to the time limit
>>737792565I shouldnt need internet to play a singleplayer game.Clearly I have internet as im using it to tell you that you're retarded.Some people have principles, yes even for things like vidya gaems.
>>737797140Last game I got DLC for is FF15 and that was the pre-order bonus Masamune I never redeemed because the game sucked.It really does seem like I'm immune.
>>737793408You can also purchase delisted games on steam if you have an old code for the game.So if game a isnt on the store anymore but cdkeys has the game then the code still works, the delisted game is added to your account and you can play the game.
>>737793574Yet I can sell a digital knife for csgo?Why?Clearly the transfer of ownership of digital items between accounts is possible so why is it disabled for games?Right a choice.Theres nothing other than the game industry itself preventing the resale of digital games.
>>737792661>IT IS OK WHEN SONY DOES IT! lel I am ok with it cuz I have another ammo to destroy those snoyggers' hubris easily.
>>737793768Depends which pc you mean.I have 1 for internet1 for gaming and work (never connected to internet) files get transferred via usb
Lmao@playstationfags
>>737793889All dlc is "digital games"Lots of goty editions of games are putting the extra content on a code instead of on the disc.
>>737794137>any way to retaliatePIRATE ALL MEDIA YOU CONSUME.DO NOT PAY FOR ANYTHING.
Skin issue.
>all that coping that it's fake and anyone who believes it is a retard>confirmed real>immediately starts defending itThe universe laughs at snoys.
>>737792353Doesn't Steam do this where you only have 2 weeks to play a game offline?
>>737794567>sell device>device has tos>this isnt in the tos>they change the tos and it now includes it>agree or else you cant use the internet on your device anyway.This should be illegal
>>737795084>It doesn't apply to physical games that you insert in the consoleAny dlc you got with the game its applied to.
>>737792431Someone post the fucking pic of snoygroids before and after PS+ became mandatory for online multiplayer.
>>737794882>>737797026soon. :^)
>>737797702Isn't it? Making a deal and then modifying the deal after it is agreed upon is illegal in most countries.The reason they get to do this is because the initial TOS always says that they can update and change whatever they want at any time and that you agree to that.The second you accept that first text it's over.
>>737795826>the slippery slope fallacy is always real unfortunately.Stop calling it the slippery slope then.Its called incrementalism/gradualism and is a working tactic.Calling it le slippery slope fallacy lends legitimacy to the delusion that incrementalism doesnt ever happen
>>737797817>The reason they get to do this is because the initial TOS always says that they can update and change whatever they want at any time and that you agree to that.Yeah pretty much.But like I said that should be made illegal.
>>737797765Glad I got the PS5 with built-in drive so this is not an issue. The only reason I'm never buying a PS5 Pro is because you can't get one with built-in drive.
>>737797817Tos for consoles is even worse than digital games aswell since you dont even get the chance to see it before purchase.
why are snoys detending this instead of getting lividbuckbroken behavior
Have you ever stopped to consider that it’s ok when sony does it?
>>737797950Don’t be surprised if the PS6 doesn’t come with a built-in drive. You’ll need to buy a separate disc drive if you want physical media. :^) You will never own anything per Sony.
>>737798038I doubt any genuine sony user is happy about this.The internet has lots of paid corporate shills/bots that are activated to defend company decisions online. The defence of this is most likely coming from people getting paid to defend it.I have a ps5 and this makes me not want to buy anything else on psn ever again.
>>737795527Power being out for 30 days would be like national news retard
>>737797821It's really the boiling frog thing, true, but usually it's called the slippery slope here and elsewhere. As an aside I think literally every time I've heard something dismissed as a slippery slope fallacy it's ended up occuring, I really hate the gaming industry.
>>737798093Pretty sure they already said ps6's disc drive will be detatchableAka even if you buy the one with the disc drive it wont be preinstalled, you'll have to connect and then verify it.
I don’t understand how snoys continue to defend the company that blatantly hates them
>>737798093I'm already getting fucked by Steam so I'm not buying a playstation, if I can't own my games. One platform renting me licenses is quite enough for me.
You people are all debating the wrong thing.ToS is legal. As long as they say they can change whatever they want, and you agree as you do, they have all the power. The point worth debating is the one raised in >>737798013: are they allowed to force agreement upon a customer AFTER purchase has been made?>inb4 Europe doesn't care about ToSNo idea where this rumor came from but every European country, EU or not, enforces ToS, as long as it doesn't violate consumer rights (which cannot be waived in most European countries). If it does only those parts of the ToS are ignored, the rest still stands. No clue where you people are getting it from that ToS simply don't apply in some countries when "deals are made to be kept" is the cornerstone of any modern society.
>ITT
>>737792353Can we talk about updates? I feel like they don't get enough hate. Why do I need to have enough space to download the game twice just to apply a couple hundred mb update? You basically have to erase every other game if you want to update something like baldurs gay 3 or call of doody. And before you try to explain it's in case there's a problem with the update corrupting something, I don't care. It's still fucking stupid.
>>737798252>force agreement upon a customer AFTER purchase has been made?the change was for hardware, not software. they probably buried it in a tos update little timmy mashed through and now all March 2026 and later purchases are fucked
>>737798336>the change was for hardware, not software.I typed that backwards.
>>737798165Its called "the slippery slope" here and elsewhere because they named the fake fallacy that, so discussions of incrementalism get called the slippery slope to trick people into thinking it actually is a fallacy to notice this tactic being used.Yeah its the boiling the frog thing, incrementalism, gradualism, fabienism.These are actual names that can be used to describe this process as it actually happens, "slippery slope" is framing to get you to disbelive its happening.>As an aside I think literally every time I've heard something dismissed as a slippery slope fallacy it's ended up occuringYep calling it a slippery slope is infact part of the game to make anyone calling it out look like they're wrong. Same way the phrase "Conspiracy theory" works to deligitimise critisism
Steam does the same thing but I guess that's okay because reasons...lol...
>>737798178Seems like a trueism that people defend those that hate them.>Christians supporting jews>faggots supporting muslims>jews funding white nationalist content>jews funding hamas>Playstation users defending snoy>Xbox/windows users Mircosoft>Tendies defending nintenedo>Single mothers defending pitbulls.Its just true.People defend those who hate them all the fucking time.
>>737792353I remember when this was such a big fucking deal during the PS4 vs Xbox One days. Sony even made a big deal out of it during their E3 conference and it looks like now they are the ones doing it. The mere fact Snoy niggers are ok with this really speaks volumes on their lack of intelligence.
>>737792353Reminder that Nintendo has this same shit with Switch 2 only on physical games.The game wont start if you get them before launch date. Nintendo can at any moment just push a button where your physical games have to connect to their servers to start. Kek. Just move to PC already and stop being a console fag.
>BUT NINTENDO>BUT STEAM>BUT XBOX
>>737792353Do you not have the fucking internet? Presumably you used the internet to download the games in the first place, yes?
>>737798607>The game wont start if you get them before launch dateThis is not the same as sony requiring you to connect to the internet every month
>>737798607What if you change the date on your switch to after the game comes out?Or do you need an internet connection for most physical switch 2 games?I wouldnt know because I only have one switch 2 game (Mario Kart) and that didnt need an online connection.Ive never connected my switch 2 to the internet because im waiting to jailbreak it.
>>737792510You don’t, your console does it automatically after you register your wifi.
Sonyfags, your opinion in this fucking game >>>/vg/565032850?
>>737792353It's wild how not even steam does something like that, you can stay offline and the game will always launch u less of course it's spyware shit like denuvo... At that point why even buy a playstation?
I really don't get all the consolefag deflections that happen every single time something negative happens. Maybe without long memory it's easy to shid and pizz and point fingers at the other guy, as if there isn't enough blunders to go around. I guess that's why they are referred to as "consumers" rather than "customers".
>>737798670You could simply get locked out of your account for some reason.Now if you downloaded a bunch of ps3 games and then your email gets hacked or you forget your password or whatever, your offline profile has access to everything you downloaded. On ps4/5 you will get 30 days before being locked out of your games.Your games are tied to an email address.An email address can be lost.
>what about the people who don't have internet? What kind of broke ass cardboard box are you livin out of baby
>>737798769Why should a computer I own be doing stuff automatically without my consent?
>>737798656Steam at least does the same thing so it's a valid thing to point out. I actually thought playstation already did it before this buy I guess not.
>>737798824>I really don't get all the consolefag deflections that happen every single time something negative happensThis is why anon, you're calling it a "consolefag" thing when it's explicitly a Sony slut thing. They know that if they hold long enough people will associate it with everything and then they'll slip in that Sony isn't doing it when people point out other platforms aren't.
>>737798893It’s cool and convenient
>>737798712>>737798718They already have that with their virtual console app. Every week it needs internet checks to start.Switch 2 games that break street date wont start because they need to connect Nintendos servers to let you play them.So there will never be leaked early switch 2 games gameplay. And no, changing your time on the console does not work.Now when nintendo sees Snoy do this they will do the same with their Physical Switch 2 only games. They alread had that system day 1 on switch 2.. thanks to the people that hacked their switch 1 and pirated Zelda TOTK..
>>737792353>only affects games bought going forwardBut why? I don't want it at all and I think its blatantly anti-consumer. Yet I wonder why they are only enforcing it going forward? And why now?>>737792513Why shouldn't everyone complain? Why put unecessary restrictions on games you bought? Its like saying you have to connect your microwave to the internet every month or else it will stop working. Why? Why is that even a requirement?
>>737799037>Its like saying you have to connect your microwave to the internet every month or else it will stop working.You jest but this will be a real thing.You now remember the mandatory grill software update on thanksgiving from afew years back.
>>737796658>>737798607The funny thing is that even game key cards will never check the internet again after you download game. It's impressive how this is so much worse.
>itt snoy meltdown while spamming self humiliation about how snoys don't actually own any of their gamesLMAO
>>737792353don't wanna be that guy but how does this affect you?
>>737799130I don't own a goystation so not in any way lmao.
>>737792513>Does this benefit you>NoSo why are you defending it so hard? Even if it simply doesnt affect you, why actively defend it?You getting paid by snoy saar?
>People are okay with thisGood job, retard. You're letting Sony turn playstation consoles into live service boxes for digital games. I hope you're happy with the outcome because this is the future you chose.
>>737797401I can confirm this because I got the 2006 Prey game a good 6 or 7 years after Steam stopped selling it but I bought a key and it worked
Guess I'll buy physical only.
they don't want a jailbreak near GTA 6
>>737798997It's the opposite of convenient you retard. It's an extra step to check if you still have a right to play the games you paid for and don't own. How does it feel btw? Not owning anything? Are you happy? See, I'd like to know since I'm on PC and don't have this issue because I own my games.
>>737796340Many third worlders borrow or sell access to their accounts by setting the console as primary then download all the games they feel like from the library and just disconnect the console from the internet i guess they want to deter people from keep doing that and encourage them to buy their own games on the PSN store
>>737795871>whipped the second timecorpos have been whipping people non-stop and people keep making excuses for them, that's why they keep getting away with it to begin with.Fuck Sony. Not buying a ps6, gunna upgrade my PC.
>>737796954>Curious how a Sony thread quickly becomes a Nintendo threadThat's because a tendie replied acting like his locked down DRMtoy is superior to the snoy locked down DRMtoy when they're both the same exact shit.
>>737799181People were trained to be okay with it by other platforms like xbox and steam. Not sure what nintendo does but probably them too.
>>737792353>how
>>737792353>needs internet connection every 30 daysSteam already does this shit
>>737792353I'm not coping or anything, this is probably something Sony meant to do, but the jeets every game company use as tech support seem to have literally no idea when something is officially intended or a glitch. You can tell it's a jeet support monkey because of the>anything like that..at the end, it's an Indian who doesn't know how to communicate professionally in English.
>>737799291This shit right here. Just never buy a digital only console.
Steam does that.
>>737798386You cannot buy the software without purchasing the hardware.They are not seperable.You cannot have a ps5 without a ps5
>>737793986>i only get physical copiesIf they can run this check for digital copies, they can also run it for physical. That's coming soon too. Too profitable not to.You don't own shit except for cracked/pirated/DRM free games on PC.
>>737799335No. Steam is my friend.
>>737799276Explain how they are the same
>>737799209I wouldnt trust that either now Anon. Snoy and other game companies can easly push an update where you have to connect to the internet to verify your Bluray or cart is a legit copy to even start..
>>737799291Let's see what those discs will look like in the next 30 years.
>>737799335No, it doesn't.
>>737799291They'll probably roll out the same for physical games before long. They can't help themselves. Every year they need to make "adjustments" to make investors happy, which always means being anti-consumer.Why do you fags keep denying the slippery slope while sliding down it at mach 5?
Amazing how snoy has to defect from the fact that Sony owns the games you paid for
>>737798998>Switch 2 games that break street date wont start because they need to connect Nintendos servers to let you play them.Okay anon but they're not taking away your game like sony.>inb4 "b-but NSO!!"an online subscription app needing an online check-in to see if you're still subscribed is not the same
>>737799335False. Kys.
>>737799225Too late.Theres an unpatchable exploit in all currently manufactured ps5s
>>737799292I'm pretty sure you can stay offline on steam and play games indefinitely without a time limit. Unless it's denuvo shit.
>>737799393Go look for your dad's old music CDs.
>>737799335On stem you buy a game and you own it, unlike on gaystation and shitch
>>737799453cool they are just waiting for gta 6 to let it rip?
>>737799240Lots of first worlders do this too.Generally children with their school friends.Adults typically do it with netflix too.Expect age verification to morph into identity verfication to prevent account sharing via face scans in the near future
>>737799361Both are consoles with locked down OSes and bootloaders that you don't own.
>a games as a service console that has no games and some movie games
>>737799393anon you are forgetting that 4chan is full of old fags. i personally have discs from 1991
>>737792387Kike bot.
I don't feel like you guys are seeing the forest for the trees here.Sony essentially don't have to worry about a console being hacked/jailbroken anymore. Ever.Let's be real, the big threat of having a console hacked isn't a few nerds running some 'hello world' homebrew or a basic text editor or whatever, the threat is users running """backed up""" video games. Since said backups are always digital Sony's servers can just say nah if they don't find the digital receipt of said game on your account.That's what this is about. It is not an attack that focuses on taking away your ownership (which it does), but an attempt to make themselves piracy-proof.
>>737799404See>>737798403Calling it "the slippery slope" frames it in a way where you simply wont be believed.
>>737799556So like windows and mac?
>>737792654Retardate kike.
>>737798984I don't mind kicking fags while they are down, but let us not pretend that red company doesn't have the most fervent cultists. While on the "pointing out other platforms aren't doing it" front, it's all just a staring match between different manufacturers. Sure, they are rivals, but just like every big publisher prays that new GTA will cost 100 bucks at release to "set the new bar" I shan't mention how most games aren't GTA, every platform is happy to see shit like paid online and arbitrary DRM to adopt it later on.That's also why physical VS digital is a braindead D&C tactic, the only thing that really matters is whether YOU can easily copy files and then use that copied software. Everything else is cope from technically illiterate retards who are too young to know foibles of physical piracy and on-disc DRM.
>>737799659No? I can install TempleOS whenever I want.
>>737799715Changing the OS defeats the whole point. I wasn't talking about Linux for example.
I'm having a blast with my PS5!
>>737799765>Changing the OS defeats the whole pointBecause it makes you look retarded?It's not an option for consoles either
>>737799817Most PC users use windows a locked down OS.
>>737799837All PC users have the option to switch OS on a dime. No console user does.
>>737799495They have the bootrom decription keys.Probably waiting for cfw to be stable before publically launching
Uh oh caco meltie incoming.Shouldnt have shitposted so hard, deducting all that karma from ziony.
>>737799901Only recently proton evolved enough for people to leave windows. It's like saying nobody owned their games on PC until now. Anyway doesn't matter try explain that now.
>>737799393>Let's see what those discs will look like in the next 30 years.First print of Michael Jackson's Dangerous. est 1991.>Disc status: impeccable >Kid status: earnt
>>737792353Unironically not getting a ps6 now because of this. They can go fuck themselves.
>>737800034NOOOOOOOOOO MY NARRATIVE IS BEING SHITTER SHATTERED IN REAL TIMEmaybe don't store your stuff in a swamp,
>>737799659Even windows and mac, as shit as they are, are significantly more open than consoles. PC also doesn't have a locked down bootloader. Not sure about mac.
>>737800002>ESLbabble about proton>You dont own games!!Kek you browns dont have ANY arguments left in the script, huh?Can you change your console OS? Yes or no.
>>737800002You dont own any digital games unless you pirate them.Not on steamNot on nintendoNot on playstationNot on xboxNot on your phoneNot on OuyaAnywhere you purchase a digital game other than maybe Gog, you simply dont own it.Genuinely just pirate stuff.
>>737800109My ps3 has linux :)
>>737799901If most PC users choose to use locked down OSes like Windows or Mac, however, they're at best one step above the rung from consolefags. It's weird for you to take a stand against such an issue without acknowledging 99.99% of PC gaming remains on OSes you disapprove of. That is, of course, assuming you do care about this issue.
>>737800034ACK
>>737800109Why do you want to change the OS to just play a game? I don't want to install windows bloat on my GBA.
official thread songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_BeHElKX-o
>>737799837>>737800173>still hiding behind "most PC users"I love that appeal to majority. Especially when I can use it better than you.Not most, ALL PC users have the option to swich OSes. NO console user has that choice because their machines are shipped with locked down OSes and bootloaders. This is an irrefutable fact and we cant progress until you accept it.
>>737800225More like this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bEZQ00OOxY
>>7377924695 posts and you are already barking non sequitur with "nintendo" in the middle.
>>737792469im not in jail though
>>737800347You fucking dumb stupid retard there was no option. Proton is very recent. Your only choice was to be Microsoft's little cuck.
If you don't have internet in 20 fucking 26. You have biggest problems in your than vidya
Incel thread
>>737800570Holy retard
>>737792565If you don't see the issue you are retarded subhuman cattle unfit for anything but being brutally worked to death in the fieldsBarely an animal, really
>>737800573I have Internet. Why does Sony need it from me?
This is just a one step away from what Microsoft did as they also applied it to physical games.Back then it killed Xbox One.Now snoys just slurp it up and defend Sony.
>>737800705Shut up faggot. This is literally a nothingbuger
>>737795527You use a mobile hotspot
I'm confused, have we reverted back to the "this is a consumer problem" argument?
>>737800645Try to change your OS 10-15 years ago and play your games. Your only option was to stay on windows. You never actually had an option until now.
>>737800347>Hiding behindFucking bizarre choice of words. By the same moniker every consolefag has the choice to go out and buy a gaming PC and install Proton on it. I don't see a particularly meaningful distinction between people who choose to use Windows or Mac OSes instead of something like Proton and a consolefag. All three groups opt into using locked down OSes. You can praise the people who do choose to use Proton or other open OSes all you want, of course, but that's a different point entirely.
>>737800761You use a console online service you're already paying for Sony to host it.
>>737794137>you act like there is any way to retaliateWell yeah, I don't give them my money. In fact I haven't given snoy any money since 2012ish, it's pretty easy not to.
>>737800570>Nooo saar Proton is new saar YOU ARE MICROSOFT KEK SAAAR!!!!Hahaha
>>737800109my switch can run linux and android
>>737800809Wrong.
>>737800826Avatar fagging won't change reality. The truth is Linux didn't have game support. There was no reason to change your OS unless you liked open source or that was your work.
>>737792353Is this really a big deal deal? Even if you somehow don't have internet you can use your phone as a hotspot and connect your console to that.
>>737792469And this is a bad thing how?
>>737799702>but let us not pretend that red company doesn't have the most fervent cultists.Nigger this literally doesn't have anything to with Nintendo at all. The more you go>BUT LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE DOINGIs the more you're just enabling Sony and their bullshit.You call them out on an individual basis, that's the only way it works.
>>737800812>By the same moniker every consolefag has the choice to go out and buy a gaming PC and install Proton on itFirst, that's not how you use the word moniker. Go look up what it means.Second, "Consolecucks can always stop being consolecucks" is not a good argument in their favorthird, "All lok same to me!" isnt an argument either, it's your retarded opinion.
>Didn't buy a PS5>Haven't gotten a single "new" game for my PS4 in 4 years>Now I don't have a single reason toWhat a fucking joke
>snoys have rapidly shifted from "it's a bug" to "its not a problem"If it wasn't a problem you faggots wouldn't have tried to argue that it was a bug to begin with. Good god you faggots are so disengenious.
>>737792353don matrick is in charge of PlayStation now?
>>737792353I'm actually curious if there's a way to stop this since I assume there's an update you have to do. Is it just take your PS5 offline and never go online again?
>>737792431See you in twenty years when they shut off the serversif not earlier
>yeah bro yeah bro just gotta remove the cmos battery and turn on online sharing bro just buy an xbox broZzzzzzzz
>>737792353By blaming Nintendo and Valve while claiming the already retired Gabe will retire and then Valve will do this on Steam.
>>737801062If you havent already updated sure
>>737801040It was never a problem unless you're a broke bitch.
>>737801000You're right, I should've said "by the same token." As for the rest of you're post, you're seem mistaken as to the point I'm actually making because you assume I'm defending consolefags. Whatever the case, the lack of meaningful distinction between people who deliberately choose to use locked-down OSes regardless of whether that OS is on a PC or Console is an actual argument.
>>737801040Yiu missed the part where they unironically tried arguing it wasnt real.
>>737801062I guess the only option is to buy physical games if you are a snoy.
>>737799230Then why are you arguing about something that doesn't affect you
MJ was right
>>737801173This, kek>ignore all those screenshots! They were fake! Photoshopped!This is what it means to be the raped
My ps5 is perma connected to the Internet
>>737801251I'm simply laughing at you consolecattle.
>>737800923It's just people acting retarded as an "own"
>>737792353Because Steam has been doing this more or less for 20 years already
>>737800347>ALL PC users have the optionAnd they chose locked down by a vast fucking majority.
>>737801405Explain in detail how it's okay Sony to take away a product i paid for.No deflection. Explain HOW THIS IS OK
>>737792353I just want to know why? What does this policy actually achieve for them? Is there some expectation that in 30 days of being offline the game you bought is for some reason in actual need of verification again? Why?Seriously what is the fucking point other than making your customers out to be hilariously retarded for putting up with this kind of asinine nonsense?
>>737801173>>737801267>their only "proof" was Tripster and Does It Play? saying that it was a bug according to some 'anonymous insider'>denied all of the anons that confirmed it's true while posting proof, claiming the pictures were all photoshopped>even denied sony support also confirming it's realSnoys deserved to get laughed at
>>737797950>Glad I got the PS5 with built-in drive so this is not an issue.They can disable the built in drive just as well by updating its drivers. Well, it's not like you owned physical games in the first place since they can add the same DRM check without even touching your disc drive, but you know, just reminding you that you don't own your hardware either.
>>737801509They're not taking it away, its still installed on your system
>>737801152>proving my pointI didn't say it was a problem. I merely pointed out that the fact that you faggots aren't arguing in good faith
>>737801640Unless I don't use the internet then I don't own it. That's literally the entire point retard
>>737801515It kinda made sense with PSN because you never actually owned these games and they were free but they are only doing this now because people won't fight back and are used to accepting every bad decision. There isn't even denuvo on consoles so an online check makes no sense. It's the ultimate humiliation ritual to show you don't own anything.
>>737801259Jew me sue meKick me kike meAll I wanna say is they dont really care about us
>>737801509Sure thing: it's normal. Valve has been doing this with Steam for 20 years.
>>737801640>its still installed on your systemYou can't boot up the game without the license, nigger
>>737801734Funnily enough I got afew of those ps+ games actually for free (No expiary on some of them even tho im not subscribed)Happened for quite afew ps3 games.
>>737801829You can stay offline on steam and your games will still work if you are not dumb enough to buy a game with DRM.
>>737797026>Won't affect me because I only buy physical games for PS5.>xhe thinks xhe's safeHow cute
>>737801829the things snoys will say to cope, lmao
>>737801829Incorrect. I can play offline with steam.
>>737792353Funny how 13 years ago not having that was a feature for PS4, in comparison to Xbone. But then it was also the time when Sony decided to copy Microsoft's playbook and made multiplayer require a paid subscription.
>>737792353friendly reminder that this has basically been the case since the PS3it needs to be updated every few months or so or it literally cannot play your games
>>737798302>acting like physical is somehow immune to this
>>737792431On a semi unrelated note, I wish there was a version of this webm, but with Max Payne instead.
>>737798712No, but it shows that nintendo has the last say in you getting to play your games, and thus you don't own them. On PC, the only person who decides what you can play is you yourself, meaning you own your games.
>>737802062They have to. They know physical ownership is going to die too and there's nothing they can do about it
>>737795527If you live somewhere that has 30-day power outages then you should not be spending your money on video games
>>737802140Only the NSO app has it and it's because it's part of the subscription. They don't do this with the games you bought>inb4 "b-but they can still-"Cope
>>737802149>They know physical ownership is going to dieNo. You don't get it. Physical ownership has been dead and rotting as long as consoles have existed. Even the fucking NES had DRM (or copy protection back then). You simply don't own something if it's not 100% under your own control, which it isn't on console.
So all PS5s will inevitably become bricks once whatever they use to make this check is shut down? This feels like a major class action lawsuit waiting to happen
>>737792353It's actually amazing how these big companies manage to make worse decisions than their previous ones. And then scratch their empty heads wondering why their numbers go down...
>>737792353Wait a second why do they need this when a snoystation is already a locked down system you can't remove the games from? Snoys?
>>737802283>Only the NSO app has itNo. The entire OS is DRM. It's trivial to apply this to every game.>They don't do this with the games you boughtYet.>>inb4 "b-but they can still-" >CopeDo you need your master to whip you before you realize you're a slave or can you see what will happen in advance when he's walking in your direction whip in hand?
>>737802062Playstation already has game keycards btw.Fnaf collection on ps4 (physical disc) requires internet to download the games as its not actually on the disc.Xbox also doesnt let you install 360 discs to the series X/s unless you're online.And ps5 depairs your disc drive if you format it, meaning to use your discs again after formatting you would need to connect to the internet.
>>737802292>You simply don't own something if it's not 100% under your own control, which it isn't on console.Yep. Trying to explain this to consolebrowns is a wasted effort.
>>737802306We will have to wait but I don't see them patching this after the generation is over. All those ps5s will turn Into paper weight.
>>737792941>still have og metro 2033 even after redux and changing my ram and cpul m a oif you have legitimate issues with steam, that is fineyou dont have to make up bullshit
>>737792469Sounds based.
>>737802406To add on to that:The PS6 is not releasing with a disc drive. You have to buy it separately and link it to your console via sony-approved methods. And would you look at that, the disc reader and the sony-approved methods need mandatory online checks and firmware updates.
>>737792353im not seeing this on /r/games and /r/playstation[FAKE NEWS]
Why do some people defend changes that only benefit the company, and not the customer?
>>737802805This benefits me as a customer because it'll remind me to play my PS5 at least once a month
>>737802662Everything just keeps getting worse in every way.
>>737802875Do you forget about the PS5 otherwise?
>>737792353I've been here telling people to buy a PC and to shop on GOG for years. Everyone getting fucked in the ass right now have only themselves to blame. I warned people. The SONYfags only hope is that this gets reversed by SKG.
>>737801902>>737801942Same with PS5, just don't buy the game digitally
>>737802062Physical media is immune to this issue on PS5, yes.
>>737802969It wont. SKG is why the big three are rolling out the same fucking updates and policies right now. They want to make damn sure nobody dares bring up SKG in a walled garden
>>737802875>This benefits me as a customer to remember my PS5 is sitting unused and gathering dustYes, some snoyjeet on a payroll actually thought this was a good argument
>>737803038>>737802976See >>737797765
>>737799291>>737799328Physical is not in any way immune to this. If they can stop your console from running the 1s and 0s on your SSD, they can stop your console from running the 1s and 0s on your disc.
>>737803048LOL, SONY better get ready to be fucked in the ass. If APPLE and GOOGLE had to bend the knee to the EU what will a piss baby little corporation like SONY gonna do?
>>737792353>buddy has playstation premium>log into his account find a game I want to play platinum it 100% move on to the next free one if I wantI will own nothing and be happy. I'm here to enjoy the Vidya pirate bros keep winning.
>people actually coped that it wasn't real after seeing multiple pictures and videos and being able to see it themselvesI can't understand it.Also it's not just new games my FF8 copy from TWO THOUSAND AND NINE wouldn't open until I updated and signed new TOS.
>>737803157Can you download it from a different account if your friends account is the primary account with the ps+ sharing thing.Or do you have to sign into his account every time?
>>737803108>what will a piss baby little corporation like SONY gonna do?Force settlements through dragged out litigation. As they have always done. With the argument that console games arent purchasable products, they're temporary subscriptions with mandatory online checks.Enjoy.
>>737803204Game update or console update?
>>737803038How exactly? You seem to know a lot about how the license verification software works. Please explain in great detail what unfixable flaw it has that prevents them doing the same thing to discs.
>>737803210The EU had SKG do a presentation.Sony are going to lose
>>737802315If not for this News I would have bought a PS5 on the cheap later and and for sure won‘t buy a PS6.Thats like a 1000 bucks at least that Sony lost and thats just me one single customer.>anons ITT are defending thisYou truly will own nothing and be happy
>>737803083Works on my machine
>>737803209has to be his main account every time gotta be careful with the ps+ games because they are on a rotation to be unlisted
>>737803294I already have a ps5 pro (with disc drive) and this thread really pissed me off learning that my disc drive can be deactivated. Im not buying a ps6.
>>737803285>Sony are going to loseFor your sake, you better hope so.
>>737803251No thanks. Feel free to research this on your own time if you don't believe me.
>>737803404It's good that you understand arguing against that image posted itt is futile.
>>737803456Yup, one day everything will be as shittty for the consumer as PC always has been.
>>737803210Dude, EU fines on the %tile. SONY is going to crumble. Their only hope is that gamers in the EU keep quiet. Which is not going to happen since SKG is already organizing a lot of gamers together. APES TOGETHER STRONG!
>>737803379For all of our sakes.If Sony wins expect the same type of mandatory online check ins from every smart device. Didnt watch an ad on your fridge? Doors locked.But that hypothetical is a hypothetical because sony arent going to beat the eu.
>>737803541>SONY is going to crumbleWHEN STILL WAITING FIX THIS FUCK DOOR!
>>737803537>as PC always has been.Kek classic consoletard copeEnjoy never owning anything
>>737803541SKG is about PC games. You consolecattle have to rally on your own. Good fucking luck
>>737803591It is really scary that the EU is the only governing body in the world that is fighting for its consumers.
>>737803659Like PC gamers? Yeah I know, it's the sad fate of the industry. Thanks Gabe!
>>737803735>SKG is about PC games.It said nowhere on the site of the petition that it is only for PC games. It should protect all European gamers. Not just the ones on PC.
Nintendo will do the same in a year. Gaben will be forced to do the same by 2030.Verification time will be lowered by week and if you don't verify you will be temp banned for a month.Then they will move on to verify only people who spent something that week/month.
>>737803249console update, and it added the fields for license start and license expiration. That's how I know the exact date I bought the digital copy.It took me AN HOUR to start playing. I could have pirated the entire fucking game, installed it, and beaten Ifrit in that time. Fuck Sony, I'm pirating everything from now on and NEVER giving them another dime ever again. I won't even watch their movies in theaters if even a cent of my money would go into their bank accounts.
>>737803759Buy your games on GOG, retard. They come with DRM free installers you can store till the heat death of the universe.
>>737803735>SKG is about PC gamesYeah that's the funny part. Has the PC gamer cult flipped on Gabe yet or do they see no hypocricy in worshipping the king of service games?
>>737803759Steam has never stopped me from transferring and playing my games offline. You're such a sad little consolecuck lmao
>>737803863No thanks. If I can't own what I'm purchasing I'm pirating.
>>737803869Boi, some of us have been hating Gay Ben since the moment he created Steam. You zoomers weren't alive back then so you don't know.
>>737792431consolecucks are really something else
>>737803908>If I can't own what I'm purchasing>GoGIt's always hilarious when consolecucks get so assblasted they start badly larping as based pirates.
>>737803863>buyHow about fucking no? Pirate everything and death to sony the company as in I hope they go bankrupt immediately and everyone involved gets blacklisted from working ever again in anything.
>>737792431>people have already forgotten this alone was one of the key factors that killed the XBox One chances of success
>>737803908You do own what you've purchased on GOG, retard. At least if you live in the EU. You can even legally transfer your GOG account to your children. You Americans live is a corporate dystopia.
>>737803912>age flexingLol. Also no, you're in love with that fatfuck.
>Physicalgames argument gets btfo again>BU-BUT MUH STEAM!!!You can set a clock to it at this point It's almost like its an AI subroutine
>>737803969This is such a cope. Jumping through hoops, bringing laws into things, trying to act like your JURISDICTION makes any of this okay.Just pirate. Fuck them. Just pirate.
>>737803941Retard. GOG is on PC. It has nothing to do with SONY. Instead of bothering with SONY garbage go buy a PC you slobbering retard.
>>737803938>>If I can't own what I'm purchasing>>GoGCorrect. >>737803969>You do own what you've purchased on GOG, retard.Hmmmm no. Otherwise I could buy it from you. But you can't sell it to me because you don't own anything. Did you not know you couldn't own PC games?
>>737803404Meaning you know they can and are just coping. Got it. Thanks.
>>737803969>purchased on GOGNta but NO.Im just going to pirate stuff.TKD
>>737804037>resellingOh right, I forgot. Consoletards are so poor they sell their shit to pay rent. Carey on, then.
>>737804037>you not know you couldn't own PC games?You absolutely can. You just have to pirate them to own them lol
>>737804037>Otherwise I could buy it from you.You can buy your own copy from me for $0 but that's inconvenient to your cope. Sad.
>>737799635>Since said backups are always digital Sony's servers can just say nah if they don't find the digital receipt of said game on your account.That's not how it works though. A hacked console wouldn't need to connect to Sonys servers for license verification since it could just skip that step. I don't see why one would go through all this effort when a PC is open out of the box.
>>737804089I don't sell my games, thanks for the recommendation tho, poorfag.
>>737804143I can't transact anything from you legally because you don't own anything. It's quite simple.
>terminally online faggots freaking out about not being on the internet for a full fucking month
>>737803970>you're in love with that fatfuckWhat are you talking about you underage retard? >i don't use steam>i actively tell people not to use Steam>i actively push Steam's competitors that are fully DRM freeHow do i love Gay Ben? Explain it to me?>>737804000Buy on GOG and make your own physical media. You zoomers need to learn what some of us learned 10 years ago. >go on GOG and buy a game in order to support the release of newer games on GOG>buy an external drive to store your DRM free offline installers>download all your games there>also make copies on DVDs/flash drives>profitThe only way i am not being able to play my games is if my PC breaks. >got solar panels>got all my GOG games stored on external drivesWe used to have Insomnia GOG threads on /v/ for a reason but only old farts like me remember old /v/.
>>737804156Depends how the jailbreak does it.3ds for example has the Hshop which lets you download directly from console and gives you a spoofed licence (called tickets on 3ds)If they had a hshop on jailbroken ps5 that relied on the psn store it would need to spoof that step.
>>737804204>legallyYep, just another reminder that consolecucks are so buckbroken they cant take games from their own friends because corpos told them it's "illegal"
>>737804247>>i don't use steamI don't use that anticonsumer dogshit either>>i actively tell people not to use SteamSame>>i actively push Steam's competitors that are fully DRM freeYup same>I use GOGHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHSame shit, different brand.
>>737792353I don’t really understand why they’d apply this to the PS4, since it’s heading toward the same situation the PS3 faced when PSN support started winding down, soon. As for the PS5, I’m a bit mixed on it being included. It doesn’t really need the 30-day check, but at the same time, if you’re buying a PS5 digital edition that relies on an internet connection, you’re probably going to be online most of the time anyway, to even download and buy games
>>737804037>Otherwise I could buy it from you.You can. In the EU. But you have to do it with the whole GOG account. Also since there are GOG sales all the time most people would rather buy directly from GOG instead of buying an account. That's why you can also put your GOG account as a part of your inheritance in the EU. This literally made the news, don't you people lurk?
>>737804204>We're going back to "You have to purchase it legally and get a recipt to own things"Thats not what ownership is, ownership is having something that cannot be taken away from you.Property rights are derived from this by the state saying "we will defend it for you under the condition that you let us have a monopoly on violence"Ownership is a pre civilisational concept
>>737803959Don Mattrick boiled the frog a bit too hard and too fast
i bought a switch 1 and i haven't bought anything else since then.>plenty of games>still getting games>can emulate all retro consoles>WII>GameCube>3Ds>PSPim feeling pretty satisfied. i dont know what i'd be doing with a PS5 tbqh. feels like a waste of money.
>>737804291>Same shit, different brand.Are you retarded? You've never used GOG.
>>737804204>consolecuck thinks the sole mark of ownership is being able to resell it >according to corporate lobby-approved lawsyou are so pathetic holy shit
>>737803959Snoy gamers are cattle, they won't even raise their voices, they'll just accept anything. Then 6 years from now when they shut down the servers they won't even be able to play their games anymore.
>>737804320What country do you live in?
>>737804276Yep, they such well behaved goys that you can wave a usb stick with every game in existence in front of them and they still wont take it because their beloved megacorp religion told them it's illegal, immoral and will hurt their bottom line.
>>737804328You're wrong, sorry.
>>737804565France.
>>737804482>>consolecuck thinks the sole mark of ownership is being able to resell itCorrect. I think that because it's a fact.
>>737804624I don't believe you.
>>737804643>I think that because it's a fact.You think that because it's the only thing you can do. Not modding, not transferring, not making backups, not sharing, not playing offline, not playing on any machine of your choice. All you can do to prove your corporate-approved "ownership" is to legally (again, by corporate lobby-approved laws) relinquish it to someone else. Truly pathetic.
>>737804686I couldn't care less if you did. If you weren't a faggot you would've already done your research and you'd know that i am speaking the truth.
>>737804521>Then 6 years from now when they shut down the servers they won't even be able to play their games anymore.they gotta keep milking fifa cod and the free to play games onigiri is still playable what the fuck
>>737804267The CFW could replace the function that gets called whenever you launch a game with an otherwise identical function that has the license verification code removed or made to always return true.
for what purpose?
>>737804604Nope.Im correct as evidenced by the fact that I provided an arguement and you provided "nuh uh"You own games if you pirate them.Seethe about it for yet another day if you want tho
>>737804787All true but ownership is federally backed, not corporate. Corporations are what took ownership away.
>>737792353They'll backpedal after enough snoys bitch about it, and then there will be 10+ threads a day how Snoy listened to their fans
>>737804793Well done France, Belgium, Denmark, and a bunch of shitholes. PC gaming has a glimmer of hope in GoG. Sadly not for me.
>>737805003Which is why I put ownership in quotes.If your purchased and owned item has an enforceable corporate leash on it, you dont own it. Period.
>>737805096Maybe but in the meantime Sony's not getting my money.
>>737792353>>737792431How does this benefit me as a customer?
>>737805136Well it doesn't because it's federally backed leash and not corporate. Corporations are removing that right.
>>737804787Dont forget they also need corporate permission to resell it or give it away anyway.Permission of Sony and anyone else involved in the making of the game. In writing.
>>737805124>Well done France, Belgium, Denmark, and a bunch of shitholes>That seething envy Lmao. You will die a corporate slave, and it's your own fault.
>>737805181Piracy will go down which means shareholder profits go up.
>>737805191The leash is the drm.The leash is the bad thing.Stop being retarded nta btw.
>>737792353They are so buck broken that Sony can do whatever they want and they will say it is okay when sony does it.This is mainly because there aren't any games to play to begin with
>>737805254>PS5 piracy
>>737792353So.The solutions are either>Force government to do something about it(aka government meddling)>Trust the free market and competition and let the companies do as they want(which drives costs down)Even if its annoying, its better than nannystate
>>737792353>they shut down online services>money stolen
>>737802315It's really just Sony raping people's rights currentlyThey also deleted movies and series that people paid for from their accounts because they said they wont pay to license them again
>>737805264You can just pirate games if that's an issue for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR_MPkTlrN8PHYSICAL GAMES CHADS WONNINTENDO WONDIGITAL ONLY CUC_KS LOST
>>737805254>Pirates just sidestep it>Paying customers stop buying Sony products
>>737805338The free market has been raped by the stock exchange and venture capitalYou can not compete in the market unless you are backed by investments that allow you to operate at -100M a month losses for 5 years, allowing you to give away things for free to lure in customers/usersAny business that doesn't have this and needs to operate on a positive profit margin can not compete.The market has never been less free than now
>>737792353I like to take my PS5 with me when I go on a business trip. It looks like im fucked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaASNOYFAGS BTFOEVERYONE IS SHITTING ON THEM IN THE COMMENTS, SORT BY NEWEST
>>737800109ps4 has a dedicated Linux distro
Digital trannies on suicide watch hahahaSteam trannies seething
>>737805325Do you live under a rock?https://rutracker.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=546
>somehow Sony decides to revive the blockbuster in digital formatholy fuck my fuck sides
Sony's been hacked before (PLAIN TEXT PASSWORD STORAGE), and they took PSN offline for maintenance for the duration. Can you say for certain that they won't be hacked again? That they won't take the network offline for a month whilst they shore up the security with a few more lollipop sticks?
>>737792634When you put it like that, it makes me wish they did put piratejeets in jail
>>737792884Your esl leaked out a little there
>>737805410I do.Because I like owning stuff.I dont pay for malware.
>>737795527are you talking about the apocalypse? the only scenario where this would be a problem
>>737805805There will be another hack sometime after the age verification becomes mandatory to keep your chat features (June I think)All that facescan data.
>>737793768Only absolutely necessary programs bypass the firewall. An offline game is not necessary
>>737805432>PHYSICAL GAMES CHADS WONThis will apply to digital too soon enough.>NINTENDO WONLmao.>DIGITAL ONLY CUC_KS LOSTWrong. Consolecucks lost. PCGODS won.
>>737806050Theyre literally building a baalroom in the usa to be used as the jewish third temple, and summon the antichrist.Yes anon the apocalypse seems to be on its way.
I'm not in support of this or anything, this is definitely another step towards owning nothing, but at the same time I don't see the problem. It's 2026, you have internet, your console is always connected to the internet, everything you use is. Especially if you're buying digital games in the first place obviously you have internet access. Like others have posted, if you're in a scenario where you don't have internet access for over a month you probably have bigger problems that should take priority in your life over playing games.
>>737792353I simply let go
>>737805470This sounds bit communist to my ear. Like I understand the current system isn't the best but if you give leftists anything they will rape and kill you instantly.I rather work few hours more and have to connect to internet once a month than have communist dystopia where I have no money, house, or food while a dictator takes everything to himself and his rich elite friends.
>>737798998>Switch 2 games that break street date wont start because they need to connect Nintendos servers to let you play themThats actually not true, I got Metroid Prime 4 Switch 2 edition and Pokemon ZA Switch 2 edition (yes I know) a day early in the mail and both booted up without any online checks.
>>737806293NtaCommunism and capitalism however are the same.Its a dialectic, these ideologies share the exact same goal. The centralisation of all property into the hands of a few. Be that the government, corporations or even both.The goal of both is YOU OWN NOTHING.Communism and Capitalism are not adversarial ideologies they are cooperative ones, they exist to play off each other to accomplish their shared goal.To sides of the same shekel.
>>737806524>Communism and Capitalism are not adversarial ideologies they are cooperative onesholy shit sometimes i forget that some people on this site are truly brain dead, thanks for reminding me that people like (you) exist
Ello Gov'na, you have a license to own those games?
>>737806786>No arguementI accept your concession jew.
>>737798998Nigger, we had entire threads with an anon playing through Bananza before it even released. Shut the fuck up.
>>737803836>sony raises prices(at least 4 different times)>just wait until nintendo does it>sony closes gaming studio(s)>just wait until nintendo does it>sony (and microsoft) lay off employees>just wait until nintendo does it>sony adds online drm>just wait until nintendo does it
>>737806524>The goal of both is YOU OWN NOTHING.Wrong.Captialists own capital.Communists own literally nothing.
>>737807113keep fighting imaginary jews retard and don't forget your meds
>>737792353its over for console tards. you officially own nothing now and are a laughing stock
>>737807235>*Gasp* I've been found out!>Take your meds! Become dull and complacent like the rest of the goys!>Shut up and buy the new product that you cant own!
>>737807223>Capitalists own capital>Communists own nothingUnder both systems (You) own nothing, a small group of "elites" do.>>737807235>Still no arguement.
>>737807368Incorrect.Capitalism has elevated more people out of poverty than communism ever has.
>>737792353This is your reward for winning a stupid console war against the Xbox, Sonykeks. Enjoy your monopoly>t. PC GOGchad
>>737807583>t. PC GOGchadBased
>>737807550Do you feel lifted out of poverty?Do you own your own house?Do you have swarms of new arrivals displacing you from your homeland?You dont even own a damn video game.Communism being shit isnt a reason that capitalism is good either.
>>737792353Its a bug you chudcels
>>737808396>bug cope>his source is a 2 day old reddit commentbro...
>>737808534Already deboonked, try again Chuddie.
why is it always a phone fag
>>737808396Weird how it's taking them so long to 'fix' compared to the ads replacing backgrounds 'technical error' in 2024 that took a day to 'fix' Chudette
>>737792353Can Jamal trade me he always online digital games?
>>737808580>>737808396>Already deboonkedsure lolhttps://x.com/manfightdragon/status/2048538082857861486?s=20
Once you accept this they'll attempt always online verification next.
>>737792353THE ABSOLUTE STATE
>>737795871>you’re the type of person that won’t know he’s a slave til he’s whipped the second time>til he’s whipped the second timeI even doubt that. Most of these speciemen love being a slave and will defend it with their life but never aknowledge it being a slave.
>>737792353Funny thing.You know how in Russia 80% of internet and western CDN is blocked? Clip Studio Paint site is blocked. When you buy official CSP license for offline usage you need to connect it to internet every 2 weeks. But because CDN is blocked you can't verify license and use program you bought legally at all under normal circumstances. You will own nothing.
>>737807550that propaganda is out of date.
Physical Chad's continue to be vindicated
>>737809218>he doesn't knowoh no no no
Sheesh they weren't buffling about that 2030 thing.This will blow over in a week. Hell they didn't get any backlash outside of some tweets. If this happened in like mid 2010s majority of leddit would shut down their subreddits and youtubers would stop uploading in protest.
>>737809218>physical media rots>money stolenIn the end... It's all... Stolen.
>>737809280HD2 got successful backlash over Sony trying to force PSN accounts to the point they dropped it, so I wouldn't count it out of the picture.
>>737792353Based. "Your" games are not yours, deal with it retards
>>737795871Didn't this already happen with psp, psvita, ps3 online stores and digital games?
>>737807368This. Going towards any socialist or left-wing ideologies don't help. We should just make Capitalism bit more fair. Because in the end Capitalism has helped more people as >>737807550 anon said. Everything else is propaganda to try and push towards communism.
>>737809763The only disc rot study to have ever been conducted was a fabrication intentionally meant to discredit physical media. I have CD's that have been lying around for 20 years, no special storage applied, that run perfectly.
>>737807368This. Going towards any socialist or left-wing ideologies don't help. We should just make Capitalism bit more fair. Because in the end Capitalism has helped more people as >>737807550 anon said. Everything else is propaganda to try and push you towards communism.
>>737797229no you don't understand, you need to go online to play offline singleplayer game in case it needs patch/update or to be removed from your library so you'll be forced to buy remake/remastered/director's cut/HD edition...
>>737792353I was interviewing with playstation Japan about a year or so ago and got through 4 interviews and the final HR salary discussion for them to tell me>oh whoops sorry that position actually was closed fuck offI probably would've been working on this feature, based on the discussions I had, but whatever fuck them
Im amazed how many kids take internet for granted. My internet went down recently but I was ready for that. Many arnt. Anything can happen. Its just another potential way for the game to break with no benefit.
>>737792353not about to defend this for a sec but look at the PS3. by the time this becomes a problem this will be retro hardware, cracked wide open with the entire PSN library + disc images accessible to pick and choose from.
>>737810785No. PS4 was gigahard to crack. PS5 is even harder. You can't use hacked PS4/PS5 online. The times of fully hacked PS3 with online access and PC tier cheats are gone.
>>737810785Not all of us want to have to resort to legally dubious means of maintaining our gaming libraries
>>737792469Oh no?
>>737810876i'm actually a buyfag with 1000+ physical disc from PSX to PS5. it's a shame but with how the PS5 Pro disc drive works i don't actually have a say in the matter anymore.
>>737805096>after enough snoys bitch about itHaha that's the funny part.They aren't, they're quite literally defending Sony.
>>737810643I love how it just takes 20 minutes of internet being down for me to start playing videogames and being productive.
>>737793574You can resell game key cards.
>>737809085>Resorting to russiaAnon we dont even have imgur in the uk anymore because of internet censorship. You dont need to bring up places like russia or china that everyone knows is an authoritarian shithole.This stuff is coming to all of europe.
>>737792353Imagine if Nintendo did this.Urinalists and jewtubers are a bunch of hypocrites.I'm glad Nintendo is killing the directs so these motherfuckers cannot use them for their profit.
>>737793205They always were.
>>737810643Reminds me of thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4On_88rCspc>I'll just google how to fix the internet
>>737795284Your can resell gck. It's completely different. Also gck doesn't check your console every 30 days.
Honestly amazing how retards on this board spread misinformation so eagerly. It's a bug, there's already reports that the timer just resets and doesn't affect any games. The ONE NIGGER SLOPTUBER people keep posting reset his cmos, which invalidates all digital licenses and the game that did work WAS A DISC COPY
>>737811117Those don't function like digital games at allThey require a physical object in the slot and take up your anemic storage
>>737811494Yeah this is worse than gkc.Gkc still sucks and will get worse as time goes on.This will also get worse as time goes on.Expect to see this 30 days shortened to 14 days eventually and then inevitably daily.
>>737811516Now they are not digital games. But you fucks said a completely different thing this last year. How curious.
>>737811550What benefits of digital games do they have then? Literally nothing, it's just a cost cutting version of physical and you're left holding the bag
>>737811507Shut up with the it's a bug lie
>>737811705That's not the point. The point is all antinintendo schizos shat on gkc for months and they aren't saying nothing about this sony shit that is 100000 times worse. Snoys are cattle.
>>737811507and yet the 'bug' it hasn't been fixed since it was implemented from the March 26th Update. It's been 1 month, stop bootlicking
>>737811778Prove it isn't a bug then faggot. No one has posted any hard evidence that it's DRM, only their personal delusion
>>737811834Game key cards require constant, physical validation for files you have downloaded to your storage It's just as bad
>>737811868Nigger faggot no one has proven its DRM, the one retard people keep reposting reset his cmos along with a fucking AI chatbot. There's already reports saying the timer merely resets but you faggots keep ignoring that.
>>737811507The bug is fact that it revealed that there was a hidden timer we didn't know about, shut up, Snoy.
>>737811924Proof?
>>737812017https://www.nintendo.com/en-gb/Hardware/Nintendo-Switch-2/Nintendo-Switch-2-Frequently-Asked-Questions-2839212.html#gamekeycards>Is it possible to play without the game-key card once the data for the game itself has been downloaded? No. Like with regular game cards, you will need to insert the game-key card into the console when you want to play.
>>737812082Ah you mean that. I didn't even consider this retarded shit as a counterargument. It's a cartridge. You are supposed to insert it in our console and then play your game and then you can resell it when you are bored of it.I suppose you think the same shit about your discs. You cannot play your game without it.
>>737811971Faggot it effects new digital purchases from the March update. Fact that your defending this timer when people should be able to play and own single player games offline shows you are brownnoser bitch you are
>>737798038They are cattle. The best goylems.
>>737812265Discs install the game off the disc and consoles come with way more and cheaper storage There is literally zero benefit to key cards, the whole point of even using cartridges is that they're fast enough to play off and this does nothing well
>>737798518It's not okay, but it is when sony does it.
>>737812419You have to install every single ps5 game, you faggot. They are the same at this point.
kill all snoygroes subhumans
>>737812468Install it off what?
Snoys are lucky Nintendo fans are not as mentally ill as them.Imagine the catalog if Nintendo did this.
>>737811980Nigger, the timer was always there if you had a game via shareplay. You've never owned a playstation and it shows
>>737798518Wait are you serious? And these PC faggots seriously have defended it for all these years?
>>737812580No, he's guessing You can go search it up and people have gone offline for months and that was before the deck released
>>737792654No it doesn't.>>737793730No you don't.>>737792941You desperate retards lying just to try and deflect is sad, pitiful, pathetic even and it won't make sony unrape you.
>>737812523Nigger. Gck are the same as a fucking ps5 disc. Both are worthless if you don't install the game.
>>737811834>The point is all antinintendo schizos shat on gkc for months and they aren't saying nothing about this sony shitWe are literally in a thread about the sony shit rn. People do care about both.
>>737799413BIT NINTENDO!
>>737811971>the timer merely resetsYeah if you're ONLINE
>>737812771Keycards need internet access and Nintendo consoles have anemic amounts of storage
>>737801040You don't understand. Snoys have to defend sony. No matter what.
>>737812272It also includes any dlc you download.So if you bought re4 gold edition physically, since the gold edition content is a dlc code its subject to this timer.
>>737812823show me the urinalists articles and the 999+ jewtube videos.
>>737799413To be fair that's true of all consoles and the only way to get away from that is DRM free on PC.
>>737812771Gkc cannot be installed without internet.A ps5 game that you insert and install isnt exactly the same because you can do so offline, the content is actually on the disc.
>>737812995>I expect corporate shills to disagree with their paymasters.Lol as if anon. Actual video game players are pissed at both, shills are gonna be shills. It is as it is.
>>737812853No it was offline yoy scum sucking faggot, it was already tested
>>737813089Proof?
>>737813025You are forgetting the 100gb day one patches, goy.A ton of game are unplayable without it.
What's the point?Is it a humiliation ritual?
>>737792353It's ok.Snoys don't have any games to begin with.You cannot check the games every 30 days if you don't have any in the first place.
>>737813209By unplayable do you mean.>1) It wont run>2) its buggierBecause personally ive never purchased a game where I couldnt install it offline.Not saying those games dont exist, but clearly most games arent "unplayable" without day 1 patches.
>>737812953You Will Own Nothing And Be Happy...
>>737812272I bought a digital game post-update and I still have no timer. I put it offline too in case that triggers it and nothing.
>>737811035Yeah, Sonyfags are going full on damage control saying it was a lie
>>737805647Nobody questioned its existenceIt's just that out of the entire Sony userbase, 0,001% partake in pirating CONSOLE games
>>737805805>Can you say for certain that they won't be hacked again? That they won't take the network offline for a month whilst they shore up the security with a few more lollipop sticks?i hope they'll do it not because they'll get hacked but intentionally to fuck up with their customers and force them to repurchase their copies of The Last of Us 1 & 2 or some shit
Another third world Xbox nigger cope thread
