Always remember: You've got to be tough.This world is so rough.You've got to be tough.Got, got, got to be tough.
kill
>>737801775day 500 of trying to find Repair
>>737802781I have it in the genepool but no jars. I take one repair cat with me to preserve the holy tinfoil hat that I only have 1 off and haven't seen another drop in about 100 hours.
Benis... Are you really sure you're doing it for her anymore?
>>737802914>hitler iii's credits dialogue implies that reincarnation exists in the edmundverseCould Stacy's soul not be found anywhere because it's reincarnated into someone else?
>>737803015It's 100% Maggie.
>>737801775post butthoel
>>737803198Have a Marshmallow struggling to sing karaoke instead.
>>737802914Maybe he never did love her...
>>737802781>>737802874I have 6 jars and over 10 cats with Repair, I have 590 hours in the game because I'm not a scrub
>>737803356I am enjoying my steak slowly. I was exaggerating about the 500 days bit. I don't think I've even progressed through two seasons yet and I only have 200 hours
>>737803243what a confusing piece of art
>>737801775It's such a shame a game like this just does not have the lasting appeal that a game like BoI has at its coreAt least I'll be listening to the soundtrack for years to come.
>>737803289More plot-relevant art like this?
>>737803356Oof
ROBOTS SEE YOU!ROBOTS SMELL YOU!ROBOTS HATE YOU!
>LET ER RIP>LET ER RIP>LET ER RIP>LET ER RIP
>>737804216I need "her" to let something "rip" if you know what I mean hehehe...
>>737804996how you look sayin this btw
>Break his chains (Caves)>Legend of the claw (Desert)>Scambled (Rift)>Get in the cage (The lab)I remember reading somewhere a lot of the area music was replaced later. I didnt get what that meant but looking through the soundtrack again, yeah I can see it.Also I think Calamine Smoothie may have been for the bunker since everyone there is diseased, dirty and constantly itching
>>737805701Don't forget Tuff itself, whose lyrics are excruciatingly caveman-themed.And then Mom I Really Hate You, which does have some cringingly-forced ice words shoved in it, but you never hear them in the actual zone.But I guess I agree with it because both of them sound great where they are.
>>737803857In what aspects?
>>737805864Mom I Really Hate You is the most depressing song I've ever heard in a glorified shitpost game
>>737805701>scrambledThe only song that in the ost that is actually dogshit. The dude singing sounds like the fruitiest, salad-tossing FAGGOT that I've ever had the misfortune of hearing
>>737805701>Calamine Smoothie may have been for the bunker>skin irritation>fever>weakness>nausea>vomiting >disorientation>insomnia>confusion>eye and teeth pain (loss)>internal pain and irritation>the doctor cant diagnose itI thought it was a song about some kind of infection but holy shit these could just as easily be symptoms of radiation poisoning in the bunker
Anon is dead!Jannies are dead!M00t is dead!All of 4chan is so verryyy deeaaddd!!!
Unironically why is the lab harder than all the other act 3 areas?
Haven't played in 2 months
>>737806384(So much better now)(So much better now)
>>737806417>megamutants that have an infinite range attack, can instakill your cats and reduce all damage to 1 after being atracked onceI>Infested that spawn gametes on death that can spawn every enemy type in the game every turnhave>Dr Dittos that launch aoe rockets, inflict fear on cats next to them and will auto revive if you dont destroy the corpseno>Half human deltas that can spawn more enemies, immobilize cats in range and have a melee throw attack that inflicts a guaranteed random injuryidea>half-rats that have a chain dash that can chain hits upto 5 times (!!!) with each hit rolling to inflict a random disease like FIVwhy>stacy clones that cna charm.your cats and more importantly give ALL STATS UP to the aforementioned enemiesyou>ALL of the aforementioned enemies can be generated as champions with extra turns and elite buffswould>Stacy boss that can become immune to your team attacks and fuck you over with bonus turns, counterattacks, reflect and sparkles if you pick the wrong mutationsthink>fucking SPEWERthat.
>>737806474fuckin basesd
>>737807019Only the Mega Mutants are really bullshit. The rest is a combination of a skill issue and a lack of meta progression. Bot spewer and Stacy are simple bosses, pro tip. Fire, health down are the best combos for her. I chose twins heads because and extra turn with fire isn't at all worrying.But Mega Mutants still suck, really in certain rooms you need a means of instantly killing at least one of them.
>>737802781>Finally found Repair>get fountain event>the Tinkerer gets Eternal YouthOk, this one is on me, but getting a critical failure when the simbol is light green is kinda bullshit
>>737807826Losing your repair sucks but eternal youth kittens are immortal god-tier furniture. Load another tinkerer up with dice and try for repair again
>>737807826>Eternal youth is the most desirable outcome of the fountain event>locked behind a con critical FAILIt is kinda bullshit but for different reasons
>>737807826i got eternal youth on a run where i merely intended to dupe ultra visions and repair hunt so i could then eternal youth my primordial dwarf for later, i ended up coming home with twin druid furniture.
>>737808043certain crit fail events are why broken mirror and trinket multipliers exist
>Finally completed the loner and bubble boy quests>put the the rewards in the trash immediatelyAll that work for a weapon that needs a an ally death to become usable at all, and a weapon that does 0 fucking damage and just inflicts confusion. It would've hurt less if he just gave the sidequest items back as they were or even nothing at all. Fuck this shit
>ON YOUR NUTS AND ON YOUR NIPPLES
>>737808136i just hope 0 health rooms neutralize disorders foreverit's probably my goal to have at least 1 of every class as furniture
Why is dwarfism and primordial dwarf so rare?
>>737807019
>>737808997Why did they attack Spewer
>>737809046The same reason they attack everything else, Maggie and her posse of cats are assholes
>>737809206hey, we're not SO bad. in ALL fairness, spewer was spewing all over the place
Have you created anything with the mewgenics cat maker?
>>737810019THE WHAT
I am now done with act 1,2, and ice age + jurassic, and i still don’t have a standardized way of getting all 7s cats or mutationshow the fuck do i figure out breeding
>>737810019it would be killer if someone would make a desktop buddy but pulled a cat from your savefile or even let you make your own cat
>>737809914>Attack a mother and her babies >Attack an innocent ice age family, 2 even >Provoke fights by invading the domain of the spiders, the Future ect.>Basically every event opinion aside from charisma is your cat being a dick for no reason >Kill cat God and trap everyone in a time loop I think we might be the baddies.
>sniper: crits do 100% more damage and have a 25% chance to stun>on a punch face fighter The hunter tail is supposed to be a birth DEFECT, by the way
>>737811207i wish the class birth defects extended to every class desu, i wonder why it's only the 3 starter classes and thief but not tank
>>737807728>The rest is a combination of a skill issue and a lack of meta progression.No othee enemy in Act 3 approaches the level of complexity and danger. Deltas, half dogs and half rats can shut you down as early as the first fight
>>737811207-2 luck though, I prefer breeding skills and passive into the cats rather than relying on RNG. Also I find that those brith defects seems to cause your your level ups to favor the class skills they grant heavily.
>>737806384>no mewgenics m00tcat
>>737806384so weird seeing classyfren's work out in the wild
>>737811328Champ half dogs and rats maybe. But it's simply a matter of having cats killy enough to kill the rats quickly and tanky enough to survive a round with the dogs. Also knowing to not get hit by anything that can give you a parasite, or at the very least minimizing getting hit as the chance isn't huge.But even then the rooms full of champ mutants still pose a massive risk even to base 7 cats with great mutations and items without a way to kill them instantly thanks to their brace, HP pool and fucking 3 turns pre round.
>>737811370-2 luck is a total nothingburger. Yeah you're less likely to roll crits....and stops being relevant when your class rolls a way to guarantee crits (which hunter skills can also help with). On thieves, druids and fighters, there is effectively no downside.>defects seems to cause your your level ups to favor the class skills they grant heavily.In my experience it's 50/50. Sometimes my cat rolls a full line up of hunter skills. Sometimes it doesnt roll any hunter skills. I find skillbag rng to be much easier to deal with than breeding rng but maybe it's because my cats have reroll eyebrows so I always have a choice.
>>737811391
>>737811686Nah luck and move is king in this game, instead of relying on rolling the passive that boosts crits you can just breed them into your cats.
>>737811706>Arrives as a stray>Is gay>Goes straight into fight club >Fucking dies on the first night and adds to the organ grinder grind.
>>737810019Nargacuga is not a bird
>>737811706just needs a pink shirt and a cute little bow tie to couple
>>737811870>Nah damage and move is king in this gameftfy. Luck and crits are piss easy to get, it's as simple as a stat up reward
on my third Jester with 11 rerolls. just sitting there on the passive level up screen slowly clicking through rerolls, looking for a jester passive. feeling empty,
>>737812590There is a big difference between often getting crits and always getting crits. But the point remains.Inherited passives > class defect
>>737812816>Get super luck and power up in the genepool >Have the human head mutationI am so glad I no longer have to go gambling.
>>737812816>get both superluck and goofball>neither of them gets passed down before my jesters diefigures
>>737811706flash your asshole asshole
>>737812952>There is a big difference between often getting crits and always getting critsExactly. Which is why luck is so irrelevant. Why roll for crits when you can guarantee them with things like marked, bullseye, hack, punch face, vengeful and backstabs, and items like horse blinders, radar dish, target, all stat up buffs, and even clovers? And those are just the first things that come to mind. It doesnt sound like you've played the game for very long.>Inherited passives > class defectIf you want to believe your druid is better off with super luck instead of brood mother, knock yourself out.
>>737813368Nigger you can just breed a cat with brood mother instead of hoping for it on RNG, with a needless -2 luck, I want BIG numbers.Also familiars are gay build generally, unless you have replace or thou shall not kill
I love this gameI just finished core, now I'll deal with Pyrophina and farm some more before attempting the moon
>>737803835retard
>>737813691Make sure you bring a way to deal with fire
>>737801775Gay sex with Magnus!
>>737803289source?
>>737813764I will, thank you
>if an event happens to a cat with negative intelligence, the event's text will be replaced by gibberishlmao, details like this are just precious
>>737814642Even funnier is that dyslexia applies to event text if the dyslexic cat is selected.
>>737801775>managed to finish the final quest after the game decided specifically at the final boss that NOW was the good time to pull some bullshit stunt that didn't make sense like the bare ass naked "Good" Hunter being the only cat chosen to go before my Hunter cat.>Won because Steven specifically gave my Hunter cat Deja VuI Do want to close my eyesI Do want to fall asleepBecause I don't miss this questAnd I don't wanna seethe again!
>>737810454I beat the story with 7-6-5 cats. Your melee doesnt need full ranged and your ranged dont need full strength
How would you rate each chapter by aesthetics?
>>737815621Impossible act 3 runs are solely about having a way to deal with phase 1 of the creator, it's why friendship bracelet is so good for it as you can throw back depressive in his dump face. Or a champ gatekeeper if you survive round 1.
>>737810454Just keep building confront and stim. Everything so often throwing a stray into the genepool.You don't need 7 bases to beat the story as items are way more of an impact that stats, just keep increasing numbers and breeding cats and they will eventually end up with perfect bases (sans any changes due to mutations)
>beat the game several days ago at 93% and 140 hours >Do a run every now and then just trying to finish up normal marks>Decide to do a "quick" run through act 3 future with cleric, tank, mage, and thief>Throw in some undesirable cats with mostly 7s in all the important stats>Throw on some decent item sets>A 2 hour slog through chapters 1 and 2 with some of the most bullshit maps I've ever seen, already had to use 2 resets>Have the fucking flu rotating around>Sitting at the TP after Hitler debating on whether to call itIf I go home, I get what, a few more middling items and 4 cats to flush? If I take a gamble and continue on, I could easily just wipe and get nothing and lose some of my decent items I sent.Either way the chances of actually making meta progression towards marks are slim to none.This game just isn't very fun to play anymore honestly, and I don't feel like investing up to 200 more hours to get to the "fun".I can't imagine the higher difficulties even being feasible without a house full of busted ass cats and legendary items on rotation
>>7378159511 at the top and the other two are depending on my mood. Can't make up my mind if I hate feline invader or we're dead more, all of Act 1 songs are great, with throbbing king being my least favorite.
>>737810454No one here actually figured out breedinf, they are just save editting and pretending they bred their prized cats through blood, sweat, and tears
>>737816545 Bitch just increase the con and stim and throw the shit cats away. Eventually you cats get better, sure you can never 100% get exactly what you want but who cares when you are passing down passive and skills that are just busted in themselves?
>>737816545I just threw the strays with good stats in the breeding room and threw any particularly low stat kittens into fightclub, I don't have all 7s but they're good enough for crazy and impossible
Am I illiterate or is the game inconsistent on whether "instakill" means instant down or instant gib? And yes it does matter.
>>737817690yes the descriptions are frequently terrible
>>737817690Daddy sharks, Lord Bunga, the big UFO and Hitler 3 all insta gib.None of have pissed me off more than Champ Mega mutants which do insta gib but are much more of a threat regardless.
>>737818020Oh and CM and Tormenter as well, it's just those two are non-issues
why does music quality plummet in act 3
>>737818178From the looks of it a lot of shit was shuffled and reworked when it came to act 3 so the music likely also sufferedI probably would've liked Humanicide more without the german lyrics shoved in
>>737813636>you can just breed a cat with brood mother instead of hoping for it on RNG, >implying breeding isnt RNGRetard>I want BIG numbers.Which luck doesnt affect. We'ev covered the crits part already>familiars are gay build generally>watching the boss get torn apart by pooters and squirrels is gayWow. I can only pity you, goddamn. You have no idea what fun even is
>>737818537Yeah but dig your own grave might be some of the best in game track so it picks up the slack.Also also really like the music in the past route, Mom, I really hate you and tuff are better that most of Act 2's music. Future trakes are much better before the lyrics kick in
>>737818858>Shilling familiar builds Come back when you finish normal mode.
>>737819048Familiar builds are overpowered in crazy+ where the elites with 3-4 turns each will focus on them instead of you, but that's a bit out of your scoope right now. Finish hard mode, you'll see eventually
>>737818964>Mom, I really hate you and tuff are better that most of Act 2's musicbro what?act 2's tracks are miles ahead of both of those.Humanicide is ok but still not on par with act 2 and we're dead is low effort shit
Squirrels are fun
>>737820036If you give squirrels +luck, they're more likely to multi-hit more, right?
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_KittyBeanis' experiments if they real
>>737821007Yea as it's based on their luck and not the luck of whoever summoned them
so madness is only really good on solo cat teams right
>>737821031>Brain is full of dust and gnats>It's no use like cat based espionage
>>737806384GIVING (YOU)s TO CHUDS AND FOIDS WASN'T SUCH A GOOD IDEA AFTER ALLWE'RE SO MUCH BETTER NOWWE'RE SO MUCH BETTER NOWWE'RE SO MUCH BETTER NOW THAT CHUDS CAN RUN THE WEB INSTEAD OF NERDS AND HOBBYIST CRINGE FOR NO REASON. CRINGY, ATHEIST, ENDLESS SHITPOSTINGSHIT POOOOOSTING
>>737822240It's bad there as well because you can't control your cat and the A.I wants you dead. Take a tinfoil hat.
>>737821031This is straight up sidequest material. It's interesting the Birds Aren't Real page is linked at the bottom. Unless I'm braindead and misread, Acoustic Kitty was a real thing. So making fun of the concept to mock conspiracy theorists kind of falls flat when that exact scenario happened, the government did put listening devices in live animals and let them loose outside. And one immediately got hit by a car and died seconds after being released from experimental torture, in true Boone County fashion.
>>737822419I think it might be mocking them less for the idea of using spying devices on animals and more for thinking they could train fucking cats to follow exact orders
>>737821031>"the equipment was taken out of the cat; the cat was re-sewn for a second time, and lived a long and happy life afterwards"Suuuure, the experiment fails and they are going to waste time and money on removing it from the cat without killing it
>>737818178Endless Misery may as well be the best song in the game
>>737823112You really think the CIA would do that, just tell lies to people?
>>737821031>outside the Soviet embassy in Washington, D.C. The cat was released nearby, but was hit and allegedly killed by a taxi almost immediately. However, this was disputed in 2013 by Robert Wallace, a former director of the Office of Technical Service, who said that the project was abandoned due to the difficulty of training the cat to behave as required>20 Million USD roadkill>or>20 Million USD wasted herding catsfucking lmao the CIA were on the really good shrooms back them
Hey there boys~My name is Dirty Mittens~:3~
>>737807019>>737808997How can you hate this cute little thing?
Well it took 150 hours but I finally got it. Unfortunately I had to sacrifice upgrading skillshare.
>>737825331yeah, do people just ignore the pills and let him eat it? no wonder they get bodied and hate this boss
>>737825331>put hunter/thief/summons on pill popping dutyThis is apparently a difficult strategy for some people to comprehend
Fuck this guyThis guy moves 3times per turn or something
>>737825843Wait until you find one of these fcukers with the Speedy elite buff
>RNGslop
>>737825843Edmund thought this was okay for a chapter 1 enemy.
>>737825726>>737825481You don't need to focus the pills at all if he dies round 2. Just avoid getting sucked up with ranged or damage him first with a spell in melee, he doesn't have that much health.
>>737826152Also true, just stack bruise and burst him down.
>got the mirror eyes mutation from an event when I first started the game>still keep it in my cat lines 300 hours later10% chance doesnt seem like much but damn it's fucking euphoric when it activates. Always a lifesaver
>>737823367Sure, if you forget eating rats, flush, crystaline dreams, chumbucket kitty, them kitty bones, throbbing king, lonesome road, alone in the dark, down with the devil, feline invader, so high, mom I really hate you, tough, humanicide, we're dead, guillotina, brush your teeth and taser paws
>>737826152Highest health among all chapter 1 bosses.
>>737801775i just cant handle mewgenics Tina 3 filters me and desert level ruisn my every run in act 2.
>Spewer is HARD
>>737826074got to try harder with the bait buddy
>just have this very specific build broevery time
>>737826887>specific buildIm sorry act 3 isnt kind to strays, dumbass lol
>>737826887Literally all you have to do is get running jab on something that isn't a monk and you can beat the entire game on normal easily
>>737826887just fucking punch him dude, what is your problem
>>737826513I've had the 10% crit eye mutation from the start of the game and thanks to it I've enjoyed and valued thief above all other classes
>>737825726>>737826152>waste your ranged cat's turns taking down pills>amazing, now you got nothing to attack Spewer without getting sucked in>it only takes a single pill for Spewer to snowball the fight, so you either don't ever see its gimmick or lose itThis boss is faulty by design if you have to rely on a single strategy to beat him, he needs to not be able to do an action the turn he spits your cat out
>>737827603it's the fucking third act man have you just not been interfacing with breeding at all?
>>737827603>>amazing, now you got nothing to attack Spewer without getting sucked inAnd this is a problem because? Get sucked in, attack, and he'll spit you out. Done.>Nooo the spit does too much damage stop running 3 con cats>but then they cant reach himstop running 3 spd cats
>>737827603By any chance, are you that "stat check" cuckold who's been in these threads?
Act 3 music so far ain't any better compared to what I've heard in the previous acts
>>737827603>you have to rely on a single strategy to beat himyou have to be joking you idiotevery time i've fought him i just attack him, yes he sucks that cat up but that barely matterskill the pills, walk up and punch/shoot/whatever him, it's not hard or a stat check
It is done! I have nuked majority of the steak.I have mixed feeling about ending.Holy fuck I want to nuke that retarded and that retarded box of his instead of Creator.
Spewer hater has been on his crusade for 2 months
>>737827685>>737827807>>737827880>>737828762>just walk to him and hit him with your high speedyou're forgetting the part where he gets goo spread in so many tiles and you cannot go around it, just admit this boss sucks, no other boss in this game has this problem of having to steamroll it or die
>>737826716And it's still not all that high. Keep playing and he becomes a non-issue.Seriously in all my impossible runs he never lives past round 2.
it's kinda crazy that the area making fun of team meat and calling them a bunch of thieving parasites has some of the best theming and music in the entire game, whereas the area that's a big love letter from Edmund to one of his more modern passion projects is one of the weakest and most forgettable
>>737829174The spewer slander must stop, my boy did nothing wrongHe was created to serve as a form of dispensing medicine, he doesn't deserve this hatred
>>737826716No shit, it's act 3. Bunga and Hitler both have higher health than the other chapter 2 bosses.
>>737829513The End is kino thougheverbeit. It only gets mogged by The Bunker and The Moon
i hate to say this, and I still remain a top Spewer hater, but I gotta admit that I haven't had nearly as much trouble with him once it clicked that I should just bring at least one speedy or long ranged cat every run and have him be a dedicated pill poppereven if he does still suck up your cats, he'll mostly suck up tankier frontliner cats while letting himself be afflicted with every "on contact" effect under the suni think this is just a skill issue at this point, and you underestimating the huge value of speed
>>737829513Like many people, Ed is fueled by spite
>>737829387>where he gets goo spread in so many tiles and you cannot go around it....in 2 turns? Bro just admitted to his massive skill issues, lmao
For me it's Zapphauser. I heard horror stories over and over about it, but only Dr. Mangler ever showed up my first handful of runs in Das Future. Since then I've seen him 3 times and he's never even posed a thread. What gives?
>>737829841>oh yeah just take 1 more turn>by then Spewer has spat out shit 3-4 times around the map at leastam aware I can just inflate my stats with breeding but then it's not a skill issue is just that I didn't gring the system enough, stop spewing around
>my first six 7s cat>he's a boy kissing homosexualgod damnit
>>737829978Zappy is infuriating because he runs offscreen every time he takes damage so you cant fuck him up Zappy with absorbent is an abhorrent crime against game design
>>737830156Can't this be salvaged with ? gender cat?
>>737830152>oh yeah just take 1 more turnbecause you're not killing him turn 1, not with your massive skill issues lmao
>>737830156Get the question marks lined up
>>737829387>with your high speedwho said that? i do it with 6 speed on average>goo spread in so many tiles and you cannot go around itHE MAKES 3-4 CREEP TILES IN A SPIT, HOW ARE YOU BEING SURROUNDED BY THEMfucking retard lmao, this is staggering skill issue
>>737830156To fight club with him, there will be more.
>>737829513i'm not making excuses but The End is a desolate wasteland with nothing in it by design, that was a big theming of The End is Nigh, not that makes The End good by default or anything, but it is on themei do personally think The Mother is a very kino fight and has one of my favorite songs
>>737829978zaphauser goes very bad very fast with certain interactions, auto-damage and familiars can make that fight agony
>>737829978Probably people with a bunch of kinetic spikes or the like. Certain interactions make specific bosses way harder.
>>737829978It's just a shit and annoying gimmick, that's it. It's not a hard fight, but it's also borderline nothing, for an unreasonable amount of time. The future is the worst zone in the fucking game IMO, it's entirely designed to just waste time.
>>737830675>People like We're dead I like it until you reach the boss, then I can't decide if I hate it or feline invader more.
>>737830914behold, it is i, and i have come to fucking waste 5 turns for fun
>>737830968i fucking love we're dead and feline invader so much, they're close to top-tier
>>737830968>hating feline invaderdogs out
>>737830994Remove these cunts from the game.I mega mutant might wipe you but at least they won't wait to round 5 to do it, these faggots are just piss boiling unless you can bypass armour and one shot them.
>>737830968>hates feline invaderWhat dogshit taste in music you have
>>737830968For me it's Humanicide. By no means is it a terrible song, I just don't vibe with it too good. Feline Invader is at least earwormy.
>>737830968i'm a sucker for classical music covers, and i like how We're Dead paints being dead as an ultimate relief, it's very optimisticWE'RE SO HAPPY BEING DEADNO MORE CRUSTY SCRATCHY HEADSDANCING 'ROUND ETERNAL FIRESSINGING WITH OUR GHOSTLY CHOIRS
>>737830791>Probably people with a bunch of kinetic spikes or the like.And RNG may always decide to go fuck>fuck you in particularBy giving a kinetic spikes mutation to the cat that mutates in the time machine
>>737825843>melee attacks adjacent units with Knockback 10 at the start of its turn>2 damageAre you supposed to treat them as an inverse Lord Bunga where you WANT to be right next to them when they start their turn so they knock your cats far enough away that they won't be able to close in and instakill immediately after? Then that means backstab with melee range cats are the way to go with dispatching them
>>737831576>i'm a sucker for classical music coversYou're gonna love The End is Nigh then. If you didn't play it already.
>>737829978Why do people claim Zapphauser goes away when you hit him? He only ever did that in one fight and I have no idea what triggers it. All he does is stand there and lighting all tiles of the same color he's on. I've never seen this Dr. Mangler yet
>>737831794>it's safer to be right next to them than to be 1 or 2 tiles away from them.nice enemy design steakmund.
Workshopping a Capitalist/Financier class, not sure what to call it, thoughts?:Base Attack: Invest - Spend 1 Coin to give +1 Temporary Damage to units in an area. Cost and Damage increase by 1 each time this is used.Active AbilitiesHostile Takeover: Spend 2 Coins to charm an adjacent unit for a turn.Charge Interest. Spend 5 coins on units in an area. At the end of the round, that unit takes 5 damage. Fat Stacks: Melee attack that gains +1 Damage for every 5 coins you haveDebt: Target an enemy unit. At the end of each round, that unit will generate you 5 coins. Passive AbilitiesBudgeter: All coin-related events and abilities are cheaper. Membership Card: All shop items are cheaper.Scrooge: Spawn a friendly Spookie at the start of a battle.Health Insurance: At the end of the battle, heal friendly units based on the amount of coins this unit has picked up. And yes he will do *that* motion with his hands
>>737831794Yup, people get filtered because you need to change your playstyle
>>737831849i did, it's one of the reasons i liked we're dead so much too
I beat chaos and I just have to say what the fuck was Edmund smoking while making that boss? It was fun however pretty annoying but at least I finally got the jester class.
>>737831914The real problem seems to be their insane brace, but if you just keep hitting them for 1 damage each time then maybe it's eventually doable? Or could you do something like use an Enema on them to cleanse the 99 brace off, or is it unusable on enemy units?>>737831914Certainly interesting but the 99 brace is the real problem then>>737831965Das Future is forcing me to git gud in that regard yes>>737832046>what the fuck was Edmund smoking while making that boss?"I can't fix Delirium in Isaac, so I need to do it right this time here"Fuck the Host and Flushmaster phases by the way
>>737831930Jew.If the South Park game can do it then so can Newgrounds-man.
>>737832145Merchant would probably work fine and be enough of a wink wink
>>737832123What really annoyed me was whenever chaos got that fucking skull that reflected projectiles.
>>737832046the only thing annoying about him is the enemy he mimmicks only flashes for a second, i haven't memorized what the colors on him mean and i've been caught by the cerberubs shot a few times because i missed the transition due to checking one thing or another
is this fuckass system specifically designed to give you the stat ups you're NOT desperately low on?
>>737833691aw you didn't need that speed anyway, 5 tiles is all a real MAN needs
>>737833691Classes have certain stats that they're more likely to get, yeah.
>>737801775How are you guys allowing those shitty lyrics to live in your mind? They must repeat and repeat and repeat 1,000 times per level.
Ideas for new classes?>King/Ruler/Primadonna class>Starts battles as the Alpha>single target attacks and teamwide commands (think stuff like crusade or war cry)>skills have stronger effects when the user is the alpha+cha, +spd, -int and lck
Buddy Up is such a fucking good ability.
>>737832145Israel made people hate jews so much now I think he could do that and not even get "cancelled"
>>737834449>Ninja>+dex, +spd, -str, -con>melee dex shield-pierce basic attack>substitution, shadow clones (with their own turn, not just copying basic attack), elemental ninjutsu>Pirate>+str, +dex, -cha, -int>ranged line-of-sight gun basic attack>spawn fixed cannons that adjacent cats can fire with a bonus spell>start battles with a little ship familiar, crewed by mice or fleas, on a water tile>ship can shoot and move fast through water, but can't move out of water >has spells to create water, and ship has a spell to create a water tile adjacent to itself
>>737834449>>737835775>Prince/ss>Ninja>piratewe really do be bringing all the EO3 classes to mewgenics, huh?
>>737834449Warlock? Give something / receive something? that would cover all dungeon&dragons classes? (more or less)Wanted to say Paladin too but cleric can be made into holy warrior.
>>737834449>Dog>Description: How you doing fellow dogs?>+2 cha, +1 str, +1 spd, -1 dex , -3 int>Basic attack depends on distance, bite when next to the enemy, bark when it's at a short range (afected by both "reach" and "range" increases)>Spells include: Growl, Sniff Butt, Mark Territory, Go for a Walk, Hump, Chub Spin, Nub Flub.Basically a cat larping as a dog.
>>737834449I'd like a bombercat class, no idea how the basic attack would go but>You start with a sack of bombs weapon with unlimited ammo and a basic lobbed attack that is weaker than a hunter's but can give burn 1, and it can detonate any bomb obviously >you can unequip the sack of bombs so other unit can do the planting for you if you want to give them to a cat with more mobility or weapon interaction >Your actives let you either throw special kinds of bombs (chemical for stacks of poison, big knockback/bounce ones, incendiary with extra burns, shrapnel with stacks of bleed, movement detection ones that stop enemy movement and damaged them, etc), give you extra movement while/or engaging with them (bomb jumps that activate bombs after your extra movement, moves that make you run with trample towards a bomb, throw a bomb for a heavy lobbed attack with rubber arrow property, kick a bomb that has trample and explodes upon hitting the target, upgrade a bomb so it does double damage or double debuffs stacks, etc)>Passives oriented towards upgrading your bomb sack (number of uses per turn, kinds of bombs you can spawn, extra properties like giving them armor so they can't be deactivated or moved by the enemy, etc), giving you extra basic attacks for activation (or letting you activate them from afar, giving them a trap property so they only explode on contact, friendly fire off) and bomb squad (immunity for allies, all allies get bonus active to activate bombs, if they break the bombs ala rad Rat they can get armor or buffs, etc)
>>737830968Dun dun, dun dun dun. DUN DUN, DUN DUN DUN. dun dun, dun dun dun. Dun!
>>737838305Also the big play is to breed them with something from tinkerer that gives them tech so all bombs come with all stats up
>>737834202The lyrics kick in only at the boss. You have played the game you posting about?
>manage to think up a very good tinkerer build with a rocket launcher>"fucking finally, a good thinkerer build! i can't wait to use i-">Elite Buff: Flamingthey really, REALLY need to get rid of these fucking immunities and replace them with resistances
>>737829387>you're forgetting the part where he gets goo spread in so many tilesanon, this only happens if you don't destroy the pills
>>737831794Just dont do this with T-Rex, you want to have a unit that can attack the T-Rex from far away to keep your other melee fighter already close from being eaten
>>737829978I got into a near endless chain reaction when I had a whole crew with kinetic spikesI was screaming the entire time
>>737801775What's the cutest kot you've managed to get?
>>737836886>would cover all dungeon&dragons classesYou mean Warrior, Rogue, Priest, Wizard?
Hey Guys! do I count as a Instant kill enemy yet???
>>737830279yes breedable femboy cats count
>>737841526Just don't be a rock
>>737841745The Cat or Him? LOL
>doing the first part of the nuke quest>fighter gets necrosis (minus 1 health and strength on every hit)>oh god oh fuck, the quest item keeps hitting him and debuffing him>wait a minute the thief has horse blinders on>put it on him>now it misses every time unless the thief is facing the unitCrisis averted through the power of reading descriptions
>>737841950>horse blinders prevent radiation damageYour game is shit, Steakmund.Nice recovery, Anon.
What is the most disappointed skill?And why is that mech suit?
>scout meEh, doesn't sound that interesting but everything else sucks so sure>scout me vs Man on the moon after it ate one of his hands because of charmI'm sorry I ever doubted you
>>737843312If you have two cats with scout me they'll also both shoot at the same time when shoot here! activates, even on the same turn they cast itMeaning that if>cat A activates scout me>cat B gets shoot here!>cat B activates scout me>once cat B uses shoot here! both A and B will shoot>meaning that B gets an extra attack at little cost
>>737843998Oh man I gotta try that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAUwnGQhEmgthis settles it. pyrophina CANONICALLY wins the matchup
>>737845140Of course she does, and she is cuter than rock one
>>737845140Of course she does, she's the evil bully that started the fight to begin with
>>737845140>That one spin on the corner with continuous hitsIf she kept doing that she might have won
>>737805864Tuff does sound more "dinosaur-y" than "caveman-y".
>Really aggressive when house fight>Really aggressive when Kaiju vs Kaiju>Completely useless when they are allyWhat's wrong with them
>>737845140what i don't get is why the fuck they're doing this in my yard
>>737845140You cant decide that based on one match.
How does the game decide which cat is chosen for an event? Is it random?I'm trying to cheese the lab boss with bullet proof vest.Unless I get spewer I guess
DLC when
>>737845951The stacy event goes through all of your cats.
I finally beat the game so I feel like I can browse and post here now. Anyone got any cool art of Magdalene Mewgenics
>>737845913i don't know how different repeated rounds would be, zaratana lacks in damage against pyrophina's constant fire buildup, the fight ended with pyrophina still having 200 hp, it wasn't by a small margin
>>737846032
>>737846032>2.5% have completed the gamewhat does this say about Mewgenics?
>>737846109I'm CHEWING my STEAK slowly.
So, mom was revivedDoes that mean Isaac actually killed mom, or did she kill herself because of Isaac's death?
>>737843280the real answer is every necro "when downed" skill/passivethat shit is so much work to get rolling and is actually mediocre as fuck
>>737846061Fuck that, Iam calling Steven
>>737846109that too many people watched a thief dart or hunter arrow bounce off an uberman and down their cat and said "nah, i kinda don't care what's at the end of this"?
>>737846198She died after Isaac.
>>737846198She's a devout christian, she wouldn't kill herself. By the religion rules, that's a one way ticket to hell
>>737834449i want an operative class. coded like sam fisher, solid snake etc.specializes in avoiding enemy aggro and crowd control, multi class synergy with thief/hunter/necrohas a fulton recovery ability that skips unit turns and instantly collects coins and items from destructible objects. upgrade deals damage to enemiesputs boxes on himself and teammates that apply stealthhas a camo passive that applies defensive buffs based on terrainhas abilities that get stronger vs fewer nearby enemiesdamage abilities that don't break stealth
>>737846201I like those when the cat has play dead or flatlineBut yeah, that's a rare situation
>>737846109That it gets boring before you finish the main quest.
>>737845876They finally found friends
>>737846551You just reminded me I got twin cats and both got that skill that kills you with no damage and spawns a shadow clone, and just got a death veil
>>737846715cute
>>737843280>>737846201now hold on, i raise you: any Forbidden spellit has no fucking counter at all! only a single niche usage! they're all fucking dogshit!
>>737847021this is how I KNOW you've been charmed. my REAL cat would cast a forbidden spell in a HEARTBEAT, without ANY concern for the consequences
>>737846551It's also ok during the loner quest since they'll be downed anyways. When I did mine I ran one fighter and three necros with downed skills.Though honestly even then the fighter skill Avenge was more useful with the synergy than the necros' downed skillsSadly Avenge+ doesn't work as you'd expect since the loner kills on "round 0" that gets skipped so the free turns are sent into the shadow realm
>>737847104casper you've been eating onion grass again haven't you! NO NO WAIT WAIT WAIT
>>737847021Every single Forbidden spells needs to be reworked into weaker versions that give you an all stat down instead. It's just dead skill selection slots because you're never going to pick them normally because they all have too high risk and very little reward.Except Forbidden Fart. It's funny.
>>737846109that the act III side quest aren't fun
>>737830968I'm not a fan of We're Dead because Ridiculon had hit after mother FUCKING hit and the use of an existing classical song just feels weak. They could have done better.
>>737846198According to the sad cat lady trailer she went missing some years after Isaac disappeared. So she probably went off and died somewhere searching for him or successfully disappeared to off herself.
>>737846109I'M TRYING OKAY, literally going to the infinite for the first time soon, and sadly I won't be able to finish the game before the patch so my 100hrs save file is ruined forever
>>737848414well, it being a The End is Nigh themed area makes the use of classical an absolute must, that is the entire OST to that game and ridiculon did great on that one too
jt would be so busted to have and item or ability that lets you forget an ability or passive
i have to admit, i'm struggling to relate to most people's qualms about various enemies and bosses because i've unironically bred a single passive throughout my house that seemingly makes everything easierthe fat fucks in the future genuinely are annoying but that's what druid's crow is for anyway>>737826716he's an act 3 boss though
Does a Souljarred cat spawn with all it's equipment?
>>737846109didn't finish it yet but it's goty for me. Just took a break to play something else and will return
>>737845140is no one gonna comment on that thumbnail?
>>737846109Casual normalfags saw the funny cat game and thought it'd be easy
>>737849256only if you can replace it with a placeholder one otherwise you'll gimp yourself because of how this game level up system works.
>>737849653What about it, anon?
>>737833691just pivot to a tank atp>>737834449>Lunatic>starts with fixed 5 spd that cannot be changed, starts with 1 all stats up per disorder you have (gets 2 all stats up instead per disorder you have that has Madness in its mechanics)>Madness cannot be cleansed or immuned>if you don't damage any enemies by the end of your turn, you immediately start an extra turn with Madness and your fixed speed is raised to 10 during every turn with Madness active>some abilities help you avoid damaging or debuffing your allies
>>737841950this is why i love this game so much
>>737849960
>>737846109mewgenics should already be top 10 in the /v/ equivalent of /mu/core
>>737849256It's not like you can actually replace it, but I would agree with a chance to skip a level or forget one if it let you upgrade a passive/active early, it sucks that you get upgrades at the last legs of a run when running 4 cats, by then you don't get to have fun with them
>>737843280mech suit was always overrated anyway, you can do more with a caveman's eyebrow>>737843312i used to love using scout me but fuck i hate using peace sign just so i don't damage my own units (all my hunters have love song)
>>737849653that kind of shit is already corny at this point.
>>737849550?
what the hell is up with this miniboss
>>737851037it seems that you are in the process of finding out what "is up with this miniboss". have fun
>>737851037>kinetic spikes on zappysorry bro, next time chew more carefully
>>737851037gravity counters this boss btw
>>737851037>ZAPPED YOUR ASS!
!!! BETA BALANCE PATCH !!!https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/686060/view/702141174212722875>scattershot nerfedRIP my goat.....
>>737801775Post yfw Maggy interrupts the Isaac fight sobbing and begging the cats to stop hurting him (and blocks damage like Maisie)
>>737853027I knew pretty much every change that was coming, however tinkerer throwing weapons free is a welcome surprise
>>737853027>soul jar + repair untouched>mage buffs>tinkerer buffs>creator cats can no longer roll depressingcolor me surprised, we're not getting fucked
>>737853027THERE WERE *BAD* OUTCOMES FOR SACRIFICING CATS?! WHAT THE FUCK GAME DESIGN IS THAT
>>737834449We just need a class that makes zenkai boost viable
>>737853027>upgraded scatter shot didn't hit alliesnever knew that
Literally every cat in my house is extremely inbred. Am I fucked?
>>737853335I rolled three before I got a good outcome. Satan managed to kill one of my runs
>>737853027>magejesus christ all this to make the class usable>forbidden spells still terrible no i don't care if they dealt 999 damage it's not fucking worth it to have disorders, this is still dogshit
>>737853027>Spewer: HP nerfed to 100>Stacy: base HP buffed to 125I told you he had too much health for a chapter 1 boss.
>>737853027FUCK I STILL GOTTA BEAT THE GAME
>>737853446having them breed with strays removes inbreeding
>>737853027>Throw Weapon: no longer costs an action to use.Honestly I think this alone already makes Tinkerer good.
>>737853027huh, I feel like there's not a single change I disagree with. Very surprised that repair soul jar isn't being touched since they're making cursed items get worn, a repair jar would still enable the super huge damage stone fist callus combo they clearly were addressing
>>737853598Doesn't it compound over time? Just adding a stray in after an extremely long line of inbreeding would only DECREASE the inbreeding coefficient, right? You would have to have an extensive effort to unfuck a completely inbred population
>>737853027>Cursed Items and Parasites are no longer excluded from item degradation.UH OH
>>737853663Just adding a stray every so often is good enough.Funnily enough this is basically how it works IRL too.
>>737853027>Hunter's Boon: Now only triggers once per turnOUCHThe rest of it is pretty cool though
>>737853027>breeding mechanics change mean I'll have to actually engage with the breeding shit to fix inbreeding instead of ignoring itNO, NO, NOOOOOOOOOOOOI'M FINE WITH THE OTHER SHIT BUT THE FUCKING HOUSE MECHANIC IS SO DOGSHIT PLEASE I JUST WANT TO FUCKING IGNORE IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WITHOUT VIOLENTLY GIMPING MY FUN ADVENTURESITS SO OVER
>Head mutation that gives you a bonus turn now has -2 speed.THOSE ARE ON LITERALLY ALL OF MY CATSEEEDMUUUUND
>>737853561Spewer hater won
>>737853027this is the most understandable balance patch i've ever seen a game haveeven funnier is it only affects noobs
>>737853763I mean you're still going to go for free before every enemy, it's just that you're probably not going to get to go twice before every enemy now
>>737853663not really, a super inbred cat being paired with a random cat will usually make healthy offspring since that's how essentially how natural breeding works, and like >>737853721 said that's how it works IRL too, defects don't really pass on with genetic diversity, that's the whole point
>>737853027>Cleanse: Is now single-target. Range increased to compensate. Upgrade changed to make it hit a large area.Fuck off
They're gonna keep the previous version under a beta branch for the Hunter fans.
>>737853995cleanse was insane, i can why they did thisthe fact it removes ALL DEBUFFS no matter how high the stack is was crazy, and you could cast it at the start of every battle to negate basically every problem your team had, you would have been fucking crazy not to take it on any cat it's offered to
>>737853739eh, stimulation barely did anything anyway, and as long as you were discarding the cats that got birth defects the chance of getting them from inbred cats is the same, you can still ignore it if you have enough cats
>>737854034considering that minecraft exists this shouldn't be anything new>>737853995i don't think a lot of people understand how OP cleanse is, you can always run solo it get the aoe earlier
i just wish hovering over the sorting options actually say what they are, also they should fix the glasses items coming before neck items in the sort oder
>>737853027>Loot cutscenes now all show a fallback cat for moral support if you loot with only one cat in the party.GUN GETS TO WATCH!
>>737853995Honestly fine, Cleanse was OP as hell.The only real issue is that it's a straight nerf to an overall mid class.
>>737853552The number spells still sound pretty garbage tooGetting the mana number was already annoying (unless you have waste time), getting the hp number to it sounds like something you'd only want to go if by accident it dropped that low
callus getting worn is so sad though, now i need to breed repair even harder
>>737853027>no changes to Butcher Confirmed most fair and balanced class in the game.
>>737854234that is a problem now that you mention it, i've run clerics before just to have cleanse on the team and no other reason
>>737853027>The effects of Stimulation are now reduced the more inbred a kitten is.>The chances of inheriting a parent's birth defect are significantly increased the more inbred the kitten is.By how much? If it's some meme number like 5% inbreeding can still safely be ignored>"Mutation" stat will no longer reroll any existing mutations or birth defects.Ok now this one is just fucking stupid, once your cat is mutationaxxed thisnsat does literally fucking nothing
>>737854304Game too hard? Your favorite class got nerfed? That's tough, buddy. But Butcher is always there to Lighten the Load. You need only ask.
>>737854161>and as long as you were discarding the cats that got birth defectsYeah, that's the thing, I wasn't. They went straight to the mutation pit to get the chance of a mutation removing the defectWhich will be no longer a thing, fuck
>>737853027>Chance of inheriting a voice from a parent is now 75% instead of 98%.Was this because of people complaining their entire house is full of generations of WRAPPED IT ALL UP
>>737853027>Become Entropy untouchedGlad to know I can continue to not learn how to actually play.
>no Goofball nerfYeah... it's Jestermaxxing time
>>737854496I assume also so that you get to actually hear more than a handful of voices, if you just have normal meows for 300 hours you're not experiencing a major part of the game.
I really don't know how I feel about the inbreeding change. It's way too fucking difficult to actually manage that shit.
>>737854572Tyler likes that one too much to nerf it.
>>737854580the fact there's no jester nerfs at all is crazyapparently super luck and goofball fucking trivializing the gameplay and all events is fine
CHEW SLOWER
>>737854631the average player won't even get to experience those abilities let alone unlock jester (90% of players are filtered by the desert)
>>737854631it's because you need super luck to get it, anon :)
Tyler fears the inept chinese gamers https://x.com/TylerGlaiel/status/2049287218192437514
>>737854601it's difficult to manage it while keeping great stats/mutation/abilities/etc is more what you meanif you were ok with having worse kittens and more randomness (assuredly what edmund would prefer, i am POSITIVE he thinks an all 7s kitten should be a holy grail) then it's very easy to throw strays in and be totally not inbred
>>737853027I like that Mage is an actual ranged class now. His basic barely outranging the stick felt bad.
>>737853995The crazy thing is that I think cleanse is still very strong. It just got nerfed from being the best defensive ability in the entire game to being a great skill that incentivizes you to run cleric with high mana.
>>737854889i don't know how base range mage even made it through testing, when i first started the game and used mage i remember spending multiple turns moving him closer and closer to an enemy to figure out his range and just hit his fucking basic attack, almost touching a lot of them
>>737854780>and more randomnessIf he gave me a button of "spend x food, start a run with random cats" I'd take it.The house management is just unfun imo. Feels like some annoying micromanagement that is just the thing between the meat of the game that are adventures.
>>737854601They really should be some basic QoL for sorting your cats. Especially now that genetics actually matter with the inbreeding changes, Let me write down short notes on a cat's profile or something.
The songs with the female singer are the weakest
>>737854780if you have a super inbred all seven and you pair them with a shitter stray, BUT you have insane stim... wouldn't the resultant kitten have a reasonably high chance to be all 7s while also not being inbred?
>>737853027>ctrl+f rubber>0 resultsAwesome. Hunter continues to be the best class in the game
>>737846109Its not all that easy desu
>>737855115it should be... not that it's guaranteed or anything, but yeah, that's how it works
>>737855095You just hate women.
>>737853027Not a fan of fucking with the spells that worked on Dex, nor the debuff for Hunters boon but I see where they're coming from, although making scatter shot a more expensive and riskier move is not what I was expecting >only buff for Thief is poison cloud Eeeeeeeh, still not worth using over anything else
>>737855095>singer (singular)there are at least 4 female vocalists
>>737854439Yeah, I had a radiation treatment room as well. All the little assholes with permanently slow or one round of immobility got sent in there if the stats/skills were right. Sad to hear that will no longer work but I guess it'll cut down on cat population growing out of control
>>737853027>Edmund says Mage S+ tier>Gets most buffsHmmm, I thunking
>>737853027NOOOOOOOOMY 300 SHIELD FAMILY HEIRLOOM CALLUS
>>737855115>wouldn't the resultant kitten have a reasonably high chance to be all 7s while also not being inbred?Depends on what you mean by "reasonably high". The more stats you have to inherit, the lower the chance becomes
>>737854034Now you have to (not) beat the game twice
>>737855395better train up some tinkerers, bub.
>>737853027>>737855395>callus, neglaria and me stone will now become worn and breakbullshit
>>737853995Cleanse is unironically the most broken spell in the game and this nerf barely does anything to it
>>737854229>Your cat is destroyed in the cutscene>Gun doesn't even flinch
>>737855395>my grandpappy's grandpappy had this callus and by cat god my kittens will too *points at steel-hard lump on his forehead*actually hilarious, an ancestral genetic callus is like something in a fantasy novel
>>737854234You have a point. I hope a cleric rework is somewhere in the future of this beta.
>>737855489>most other debuff spells: spend 8 mana to remove 1 stack of a random debuff from a random ally (usable once per battle)>cleanse: fix every problem everyone has no matter whatthere was a power gap, admittedly
>>737855395TINKERER STOCKS ARE FUCKING SOARING!! INVEST NOW
>>737853561>Spewer schizo wonI kneel
>>737853027Why the FUCK is Repair not getting nerfed? This skill breaks the entire goddamn game.
>>737853027>Added +50 HP to Dreadnoughtus’ head and +2 damage to its legs.Huh, was Dreadnoughtus considered easy enough for a buff? Seems a bit random.
>>737855745he is really easy, 50 hp on the head isn't much when he has 400 and does 100 damage to himself every drop
>>737855745Yeah, both him and Mother are pushovers.
>>737853820>>737855710And yet he'll still keep crying
>spewer nerfed>stacy mutant buffed>mage turbogigabuffed>tinkerer turbogigabuffed>hunter nerfed slightlyAAAIIEEEE I WASN'T READY FOR THISI STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN A REPAIR SOUL JAR TINKERER FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
>Huntershills crying over boon getting capped and Heavy Shot getting nerfed.Topkek. God forbid normiefags be forced to use better classes sooner
>>737855885i'm not going to say i struggle on mother because i don't, but she is pretty annoying with my melee guys and it's not always easy to not be next to her when i end their turns and have to spend attacks breaking them out of the grabs
>>737853027>no nerf to running jabwtf why did they gut every other infinite except this one?
>>737853027>all those mage changes>spewerFUCK, I NEED TO FINISH THIS NOW BEFORE THIS DROPS
>>737853027>Final Boss & his Cat Clones are banned from rolling Depressing elite buff.Thank God, but they should be banned from Speedy too.
>>737856021>better classesuhhhhhhh......like, druid, or...?are you about to deny hunter being one of the best if not the best class, or it some "well if you do a whole bunch of item bullshit and breeding and mutating then *this* class is better!!!" thing?
>>737855237They are all ass>>737855225One of my better traits
>>737856081They didn't nerf shit like rehook making most endgame weapons completely busted either, a cat with cleaver and rehook can shred bosses because it's all fractional damage
>>737856021>marked is untouched>sentry mode is untouched>bullseye is untouched>rubber arrows is untouched>hunter's boon+ is now a "kill maggot familiar to get full mana">Huntershills cryingkek
>>737855095YOU ARE SO WEAKYOU ARE SO WEAK
>>737856240>rubber arrows is untouchedthis one is crazy to me, i have yet to fight a boss into round 2 if my hunter has rubber arrows
>>737856223That at least requires you to have a strong weapon. Jab just needs you to pick Tank or have movement skills or refreshes.
>>737856196Time to play the higher difficulties scrub.
there's no way they just forgot to nerf all those other OP builds, right? are they gonna roll it out slowly? repair nerf in like 6 months then?
>>737856367huh? wuh?sorry dude, i luck max
So what's the best act 2 song?
>>737856175Speedy's okay, I feel, because it only benefits the one that rolled it. If any cat rolled Depressing (which was highly likely on higher difficulties), then all cats would move first.
>>737856441
>>737856367>doesnt block shots bounced off other targets lmao
>>737856441WORK IT WORK IT WORK IT WORK ITDOWN WITH THE DEVIL DOOOOWN WITH THE DEVIL
>>737854889>>737854980Seriously more range was really all he needed, he should have always been "hunter but magical utility" type of class.Do patch buffs take effect if you are mid-run?
>all the double digit IQ's troglodytes malding over the patch notes on the steam pagelol
>>737856441crazy daysit's just wild to hear that start when you get to chaos
>>737856516sorry anon, it's "working"...
>>737856441So High and it's not even close
>>737856550Agreed when I first got to chaos I was fucking shocked but pleasantly surprised by the song and boss phase.
>>737856432>>737856510>I can make Hunter OP in impossible by working around mirror with passives and depending on other cat classes.Meanwhile Fighter, Butcher, Monk & Tank can still hard carry an impossible run with little stress over who they fight.
>>737827236>on normalwho gives a fuck about normal modeyou literally aren't even playing the real game
>>737853027>Tinkerer Throw Weapon no longer costs an action
>>737853027>Mage buffed>Tinkerer buffed>They keep being useless if the boss is a robot and/or rolls Flaming as a Elite Buffkek
Invert with DNA Multiplier can really get fucked.
>>737856547there's some latvian on Twitter who's been having a meltdown over it https://x.com/PASTAMANCERKOL2/with_replies
>>737856793This isn't Isaac, retardNormal IS the real game this time, and everything else is just timesink autist wankery
>>737856773>Fighter, Butcher, Monk >get bent over by anyone with counter attacks, thorns, depressive, speedy, brace, holy shield and bouncy Cope all you want, buddy. >Tanklmao
>>737855395uh oh you have to actually use tinkerers now>>737855395>>737855534now every family tree has to be a line of engineers just to repair the family heirloom parasite>>737856021the only people that hate the hunter nerfs also hate engaging with the breeding mechanicall of my hunters are even more op when they multiclass
>>737856547It's mostly just the tryhard retards who could only play the game by breaking it completely before even tryingI can't wait till they add a randomized daily run mode where you have zero control over the cats or items you prep, will really start separating the wheat from the chaff
Why the fuck did the coven get more hp in the patch notes?
>>737856883i disagree, not for any difficutly reason but because unlocking shit is locked behind the higher difficulties, you're clearly intended to play themi was PISSED to learn impossible actually has items behind it, i don't want to do that shit
>>737856920>>get bent over by anyone with counter attacks, thorns, depressive, speedy, brace, holy shield and bouncyHoly grasping at straws! None of those are ever as debilitating to melee classes than mirror is to Hunter.Cope & seethe
>NO RUNNING JAB NERFmy reign of terror continues, please keep distracting edmund from the fact that running jab is the most powerful thing in the game by continuing to complain about hunter. thanks guys!
>>737856876>charmed pussy with needle shot>"nothin personnel kid"
>>737856223if you noticed that patch notes, none of the OP strats that require you to eventually engage with breeding and subsequently multiclassing aren't affected, which most of the playerbase somehow doesn't do in the first placethey're only balancing classes within each of their own vacuums
>>737857046Mirror is debilitating to most ranged classes thoughbeit not just hunter. It does fuck over a lot of mage spells.
>>737856920>he thinks any of those matter late gamelmaoonly depressing and speedy are relevant and only at creator and those affect hunters too
>>737856883>you're not intended to unlock a significant portion of the game's content! you're supposed to ignore it!you didn't beat the game.
>>737857018I surmise it's to disincentive killing Coven and making Tormentor less of a cakewalk. Without the health buff, he's like 125 hp I recall.
>>737857046>None of those are ever as debilitating to melee classesyet melee classes have no workarounds and have to suffer. Lol lmao.
>>737857018to stop people just fucking killing him round 1 and making the fight a total jokethe whole point of the fight is to see the tormentor, and killing coven is now a more special thing probably not honestly, if you could wipe out coven round 1 then i doubt another 50 hp would even matter
>>737857089Yeah, no shit
>>737857123I enjoy trying to kill coven before they can summon the tormentor since it's a really good way to check if your cats are actually good at DPS.
>>737830968Let me guess, your favorite songs are Reddit Dreams and Guillotina.
guess which kaiju was my favorite
>>737857049hes not touching anything that involves multiclassingthats like half the fun
>>737857229FUCK YOU
>>737857107>only depressing and speedy are relevant and only at creator and those affect hunters tooAgreed. Which is why I have no idea why the HUNTER BAD! retards cling to the mirror buff like their lives depend on it. Even if it is a solo run, just use a fucking stick
>>737857229I also added Marshmallow because I thought her charm ability would translate dramatically in tomodachi
>>737857229You're based! Fuck Pyrophina! Stupid retarded lizard cat.
Gun...
>necro barely touchedWelp
>>737857316>interactive buddybased
>>737857343https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZSRH-uYTRo
>>737856883what are all of those items behind higher difficulty unlocks doing then
>>737857080I was running a bunch of experimental items too, which made this run less fun.
>>737857298I once had a hunter run where my hunter's luck and chance to reflect were so high that I was killing mirror enemies by ping ponging the reflected shot back at them repeatedly. The mirror elite buff is worthless lmao
>>737857343it's almost more unsettling that he actually talks and is a real living thing and not some strange ephemeral cat-like chaos entity
>>737857351I'm glad that necromancer didn't get touched because if it did. That would mean reanimate could possibly get nerfed and I don't want that to happen.
>>737857351You should have complained on twitter like mage and tinkerer did if you wanted those buffs
>>737857467yeah but mage was DOGSHIT and NEEDED these buffs, seriously
>>737857109Is a "significant" portion of the game's content in the room with us right now?
>>737857343:)
Isn't this a beta? It's very likely that more things are going to be touched on the future as they gauge people's reactions to these.
>>737857528i think elite buffs are significant, they alter every single boss drastically
>>737857467Mage and Tinkerer's kit are still shit lmao. They'll always will be as long as their magic attacks have no damage scaling
>>737857395I'm not sure, since once you beat the highest difficulty and unlock the items, there isn't much motivation to just play the game for the sake of it anymore, unlike Isaac where playing the game itself is just fun no matter what.
i'm unironically gonna kill off my extra turn repair thief (i really should have brought soul jar for this, it took me this far to realize that's the purpose of that item) just to get more ultra vision midgets in my team
>>737857384Why does the second to last dragon start T-posing when he thanks you?
>>737853027>Cleric>Open Wounds: Now deals magic damage.uh, why? is this bad? is this good? is this weird? yes, i think
>>737857609you could say the same thing about death certificate in isaacmost video games give you the most powerful stuff in the game when it's finished anyway
>>737857528you know that boss mechanics are altered and there are items locked behind beating higher difficulties rightoh my god do you think the sidequests aren't real content because you don't have to give beanies cats to progress the gamedo you even own the game
If I play with beta on does it carry my progress over? I’m new to this game after discovering it on TikTok :3
>>737857298unironically there's the butcher skills that have lifesteal are really handy to breed down
>>737857563Elite buffs are just glorified "number go up" or "typical strategy is hard countered"I know everyone hates to hear this, but turn based rpg's are not skill based games. Once you "master" the skill of reading comprehension and memory retention, all that's left is the patience to grind up your numbers to outmatch whatever your current "challenge" is.
>>737857643it's incredibly OP right now as a physical spell because it can crit and benefits from bruise
>>737857795shouldn't the ability read and comprehend be a skill in of itself anyway
>>737857669I still put hours into my dead God save file in Isaac because it's simply the type of game where the actual gameplay will always be enjoyable and you can always be improving your player skill.
>>737853027>Ball Of Spiders: No longer scales damage with DEX.>Flea Shot: No longer scales damage with DEX.???Am I missing something, why are these two abilities being nerfed?
>>737857804i didn't know it could crit, i actually never had that happen for memagic weakness can still make that happen, right? i know it's SIGNIFICANTLY more uncommon but still
>>737857795Nah, there can still be challenges even after you grind up stuff. Most obvious one being the creator clones.
>>737857673You are getting awfully defensive about this
>>737857673>you know that boss mechanics are alteredthat's not technically true, elite buffs aren't "boss mechanics", nothing the bosses actually do changes per difficulty
>>737857909And what "skills" are required to overcome said "challenge" in a turn based "strategy" game, anon?
>>737857885the type conversion really is a nerf since you cant just whittle down a boss quickly anymore unless you have the thief passive that guarantees crits from behind and at that point you'd just use a better spell
>>737857976Figuring out how to make builds where you can beat your own clones, and the decisions to figure out what moves to make to actually pull it off. Have you played the game?
>>737857037So, don't? Everything I hear about hard and other difficulties sounds uninteresting and annoying so I'm not doing themJust don't do impossible if you don't want to
Why wasnt repair changed and soul jar? I’ll get on twitter and let Edmund know.
the people that can't beat desert are telling everyone else that the remaining 3/4 of the game doesn't matter. lolmao
>>737858079yeah but there's unlocks...and some of them look good, i didn't WANT to do dead god in isaac but i was compelled by the allure of new items and synergies
Thoughts on giving a souljar tinker Immortal?
>>737858113Yet the credits roll after you beat act 2? Almost as if that’s the end of the game. The rest is hardcore mode.
>>737857865Probably because both the spiders and fleas are already extra damage that also serves as cushion but we're alre already good as an extra shoot, now you'd have to think twice about if it's worth it over other moved that get less use
>>737858069That sounds more like trial and error to me.What "skill" is required to master trial and error gameplay?
>>737857954The spider specifically shits out buffer versions of the spiderlings in hard mode and so on so you're just blatantly wrong on that part
>>737857556Tyler FEARS the mighty chinese review bombing tantrum over nerfs
>>737858213no, i'm notthat's just "more health", not a mechanicdo the spiders do anything different? does spinnerette? no? then there's no new mechanics
>>737858113Nah I beat the game and I don't really have much motivation to keep unlocking shit honestlyEverything in the game feels really antagonizing towards the player's time.
>>737858280bosses don't all have gigantic pattern shifts but entire mechanics do change like the creator's cats actually being proper copies rather than watered down versions of your catsyou wouldn't know this because you didn't play the game thoughbeit
This game has a hazbin hotel amazing digital circus ahhh fanbase what happened
>all the brainlet room temperature IQ people bitching over nerfsDoes Mewgenics really have that many minors in its playerbase? I thought most of the Edmund games had more mature players.or at least eldery, some of you all are clearly not mature
>>737858113I've beaten the Creator but the hard+ modes still sound uninteresting>regular game but random buffsAlmost "just double enemy health/damage" tier stuff
>>737858163give him a flesh kid or something at least
>>737858105Yes but That In Itself is Part of the Fun . I got The Brain Eating Virus on my Carry , and the run Did Turn into a new game of Keep His Brain Online , and , somehow , I Managed to get a Revive Skill on my Jester , so my Butcher could come home . I put his Soul Into a Jar after though Perhaps , there Should be Some Consideration of those Kind of "Lose" abilities when You Have 2 or Less cats ? Hard to say .Also . @edmund . Kitty Vacuum . Please . You're turning me into the Protagonist IRL picking up These Kitties between runs .
>>737858049So what was even the logic of this change? They changed the best defensive and offensive moves of a class most players change for druid and that is not recommended against the last leg of the game
>>737858357so that's one then, neatoand the 99.99% "more health" in every other part of the game doesn't matter anymore
>>737858195bitch, all skill is learning through trial and error
>>737858380They don't want a fairly balanced game, they want to be able to autistically grind up specific game breaking things for hours on end then gloat that they are somehow superior to everyone else who play the game organically
>>737858368>recent game has zoomer fanbaseYou don't sayAnything new is going to have those people. Fanbases are generally shit and better avoided anyway
>>737858380>bitching over nerfs>look at the comment>"I dont even care about the spell nerfs"I have no idea why illiteracy is such a big problem with the mewgenics fanbase, jesus
Is this game actually good? Been playing a lot of slay the spire and the like recently but want something new
>>737858387What in the actual FUCK is this post
>>737858432>he unironically didn't know because he never engaged with the game in a meaningful way>immediately moved the goalpostsyou are a parody person. god made you specifically to embarrass yourself in this moment and to teach everyone else to not talk about shit they know nothing about.if you want more changes, go play the game, nigger. or better yet, just look at the wiki, because we both know you aren't gonna play it and you're just here to shitpost.
>>737858487the retards also hate the breeding part of the game so it still applies
>>737858450I'm asking what "skills" specifically are you learning through trial and error in a turn-based RPG?
>>737858387think the bot broke on this oneprobably steven controlled, by the look of it
>>737858501It's breddy fun
>>737858568you dont know everything when youre born, right?
>>737858501I would say it's at least enjoyable up until you finish the main game's story, but there are a lot of anti-fun mechanics shoved in for the lulz
>>737858357The Creator's good cats should've been proper copies by default tbqh and I was surprised they don't have your equipment
>>737858487>I have no idea why illiteracy is such a big problem with the mewgenics fanbase, jesusCAN'T THINK TOO GOOD, DON'T KNOW TOO MUCHNO READING, NO WRITING, NO SILLY STUFF!
>>737858568I already answered that and you ignored it. If you're going to be obtuse, nobody's going to treat you like an adult.
>>737858535Man this guy is ultra butthurt from having his glorified spreadsheet simulator called out
>>737858564The breeding part is annoying by design and has dogshit UI so the retards are right on that one
>>737858673I GOT TO BE TOUGHTHIS WORLD IS SO ROUGH
>>737858501you have to have a stomach for random "you have had too much fun, your cats are now crippled" but other than that yeah it's great
>>737858685What was your answer? Try to respond in a non autistic way please
>>737858487Because it attracts the "me do big combo!" people that also enjoy games for illiterates such as Yu-Gi-Oh t. one of said illiterates who really enjoys both
>>737858673WALKIN AROUND, IN THE BUFFGOT A SABRETOOTH KITTY NAMED LITTLE FLUFF
>>737858736That's standard Edmund game stuff, no one should be surprised or that annoyed.What curses in Isaac were fine and didn't bother people but minor small events here do? So odd
>>737858768See >>737858069
Kannibal Kitty is definitely about Gein right?
>>737858821You don't get it anon, someone shoved Want Woman down the stairs in an event, that's going too far
>>737858845It was most definitely the original song for guillotina
>>737858845Unless the mask is just for show and he's actually a smooth motherfucker I don't think so
>>737858821well because every run of isaac was completely self-contained and to be honest there wasn't a single item that was that bad for any given run (except anti-matter)in mewgenics a lot of disorders are CRIPPLING and have lasting effects for the rest of your (not short) run, losing that run annihilates a huge amount of items and time, and cuts out valuable cat abilites/mutations to pass down, bad events have ramifications for multiple runs after they occur
>>737858368Zoomers really think "lore" is a good substitute for writing a plot. See Fnaf2 movie to see these developers fail to write a proper story. Or better yet, don't.
>>737858821The problem is a turn-based roguelike genre doesn't really mesh well with the "lolrandumb fuckovers" the same way a skill based action game does.You can't outskill math suddenly not adding up enough in your spreadsheet battle.
>>737853027I don't like the hunter boon nerf the +version was broke as hell but 5 mana in the regular version was fine. Maybe they should had just made the + version give 8-10 mana on killAlso god fucking damn it on the fists of fate nerf what's the next best god cat combo I can make since I have like 1 or 2 extra soul jars
>>737858840But that just circles back around to my original question.That's clearly trial and error based gameplay in which the only skills you need to master in a turn based game like this are basic reading comprehension and memory tension and a hell of a lot of patience
>>737858736I thoroughly enjoy Darkest Dungeon 1 and 2, so this looks right up my alley. Thanks Gs
>>737846032she's had a hard life
>>737859085I think you're the autistic one here anon.
>>737859103DD ain't got nothing on the blatant disrespect of player time Mewgenics presents
>>737859137
>>737859050A cat with fixed party detonator + rehook completely eliminates most non-boss fights, a fighter with 0 int + think too hard + any strong damage ability can also shit out damage
>>737859179That's fineIf autism is real I probably have it
>>737859205ehhh, i don't know about that, there is some absolute horseshit in DD
>>737859229How long does it take to get game breaking combos like this? Is it completely dependent on how lucky you get with what the game gives you?
>>737859229My soul jar cat has super luck + and think too hard with mental retardation and double cast so I guess I could spam the shit out of fist of fate+ with it
>>737859334It takes as long as you need to breed down rehook or stoopzerk
>>737859334It's all RNG dependant outside the items you get from sidequestsYou can roll it almost instantly or basically never
>>737859334>Is it completely dependent on how lucky you get with what the game gives you?yesit is, don't believe the lies they'll feed you, you'll get "breed it into kittens" but that's luck too, pure chance all the way down
So, do I update or do I stay in the base game? The update is "optional", right?
>>737859334The fighter one is pure luck, rehook just requires you to have a butcher with rehook+ and good stim in a room (i have 50 stim in my main room)
>>737859460What kind of question is this evenAre you seeking some kind of validation from fucking 4chan?
>>737859205That fucking vampire alligator sure did disrespect me with its fucking bullshit
>>737859541idk man, i just got done from a lord bunga run and I think all the concussions I got started hitting me IRL
>>737859460It's in beta, so you can swap if you want. I ain't your dad.
>>737859460you have to update or else stacy dies
>>737860187what, again?
How important is breeding? I don't want to spend literal hours between runs herding cats into different rooms and trying to make them fuck. I like to send out a party as soon as I have 4 cats ready
>>737860429It's about to become a lot more important.
>>737860429dependsit's utterly necessary for anything harder than normal mode and makes a big difference even on normalit's worth doing regardless because it's just fun as hell to have other classes abilities on random cats, it opens up the whole game for synergies and combos, and having strong cats just makes everything so much smoother, you might not think a 7 stat is much different than 6 but that's huge in how the game plays
Motherfuckin needles for arms. do you think they are for protection nah its fucking meth and morphine. You can hit me all you want. Oh my spine is broken nahhh im made out of tumors and im healing faster a die. Sure im litterately 200 the fuck im a dying here well anyways im bleeding from my lungs and I need to kill god before the bomb in my brain goes off
>>737860429Just max stimulation in a room and toss veterans in there. Donate them only after they get old. Eventually, the average stat total will rise and cats will start with skills that you can plan a party around to reduce reliance on RNG.
>>737860426The flow on those speech bubbles at the top right is dogshit. Reading it Left to Right has Maggie give an answer before Beanies even asks the question and reading it Right to Left like a filthy weeb has him give the affirmation to her response before he asks the initial question instead.
>>737860664this is probably the beta lyrics to crazy days
>>737860429>How important is breeding?When you have 100+ appeal, breeding isn't too important since you'll get decent stat cats for normal. But if you want to minmax, it's definitely necessary
