>this little guy broke /v/Why did he do it?
>>737805294I hate that they told us when it's out, now it'll sell out in 2 minutes instead of 5.
>>737805294>Why did he do it?good morning saar
>>737805294Yeah I am so pissed about how uncomfortable it looks, retard. Totally.
>>737805487he mad
>>737805771>he bait
because real PC games died 2 decades ago and all that's left is playing console port #1173. Now with a slightly better controller.
>>737805428They shouldn't have told everyone the exact time, the day is ok. People will just bot farm the preorder window now.
>no xinput
>>737806257>windowsthat's your problemworks fine on linux
>>737806313>linuxthat's your problem
>>737806231The time is the time they always update the store, anything else would've been a surprise.
>>737806313>loonix troon coming out of his shithole again
>>737806313>linuxCool, nobody cares.
Reminder that third worlders actually cannot purchase steam hardware from steam. Only way for them to get it is through a 3rd party seller. This is why these thurdworlders are assmad. Anyone mad at this release is a literal jeet
>>737806390>2025Lmao, at least post the current numbers and realize you're losing faggot
>>737805294I just don't like symmetrical sticks layouts anymore despite using them on ps1 and then ps2 at which point I built my first pc and never went back to consoles. Shame they don't sell it in 2 variants, or with a way to switch the dpad and left stick like on some premium controllers.
>>737807249Oh yeah forgot india loves linux, that's the based kind of "person" which is inflating the numbers.
>>737807359>Shame they don't sell it in 2 variants100%
umm.........
I'm so fucking hyped for this thing /v/rosI hope someone comes out with a bracket attachment so I can use this with my android.Touchpads will be a game changer for crpgs but we all know /v/ doesn't play REAL rpgs only bethesdaslop
>>737811684>Windows>being "rebuilt"This will never happen. There's an unmaintainable amount of technical debt in Windows.
>>737805294Steam Deck's little brother
has none turned it into a cute dog yet?
>>737811684>Microsoft finally feeling the pressure and hiring competent devs to refactor Windows a'la LonghornGenuinely good news actually, they've already shown signs of improvement by delegating a white guy that's been in the company since Ballmer to work on those native rewrites for Windows 11 so I have high hopes and I'm all for it. Competition is good, and unlike the rest of the web, I'm not that jaded to scoff at the idea of Microsoft doing something good for once.
>>737812797>hiring competent devsThey'll just throw more jeets at it.
>>737812325yeah we need a full replacement not a remaster
>>737812212why are you using a controller for crpgs instead of kb/m? pcfags pretending that controller is better than kb/m because valve is releasing a new controller is so weird.
Waiting on new object porn of Steam merchandise.
>>737805428was this the case for the steam deck? they could be taking preorders and deliver the controller when ready
>>737814712>why are you using a controller for crpgs instead of kb/m?For basically every game kbm is superior but obviously much more bulky. I enjoy sitting on the couch playing games or playing on my phone and in neither case using kbm is very practical.I play crpgs on Android using winlator and atm touch controls are in ironically better than gamepad and I am optimistic that this could be a better solution.
>>737814876I didn't pay attention to the steam deck.The steam controller is unironically a much bigger ticket item, and there's no way they have anywhere close to enough stock to satisfy demand, they don't know how eager people are for a new controller with more buttons and a sensible layout. I've been waiting for one for 20 years. If they were smart they would've done pre-orders, instead the store is going to crash 5 minutes before like it always fucking does and bots will buy 99% of the stock.
>>737815172fair enough, i think the controller is a better solution for phone gaming.
>>737805428>>737806231just add it to the cart now and be there when it launchesif it's not released you can't pay and it boots you back to cart, so near the time you can just spam until it goes through
>>737815238For most games yes but any crpg without good native controller support (underrail I'm playing rn) you basically have to bind your mouse move to the analog stick and it's super aids that touch is somehow 10x better.Additionally I remember playing morrowind with controller and navigating menus with controller was annoying as fuck that touch controls again were just way more intuitive
>>737815214I hope Valve doesn't let new accounts buy their controller. Also the accounts that have no playtime. All of this will be a shitshow otherwise.
>>737805294Keep it up guys!The more pointless, ragebait, fake reviews post you make the less I'll have to wait for mine to arrive in two months or so when it finally arrives...
>>737806390saarpeople are redeeming linux... this is bad...
>>737815809>in two months or so
>>737807468i'm going to preemptively debunk your mental illness, if you don't mind
>>737805294>Why did he do it?ret/tv/ddit is that way
>>737805428They have had PLENTY of time to amass inventory.
>>737807359This is stupid unless you only play shooters.
>>737815214you can use steam db to get it into your cart if you really want it for some reason. note that you can't buy it yet though.
>>737805487Every review without exception says it feels great.
>>737807359It is asymmetrical. You move with the left joystick and aim with the right trackpad.
>>737815172Steam Controller 2015 is better than kbm, so this should way, way better.
>>737815937Don't get my hopes up. You know Valve is a mess with logistics.
>>737816198I never used the og. Is it worth a buy? They're pretty cheap right?
>>737805294release this shit already. i want one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVRfie61QyElol at the guy yesterday complaining that the rechargeable battery wouldn't be replaceable
>>737805294yep, it's gaming time
>>737816025Valve are retarded and make the minimum stock they think they'll need because they don't have warehouse space.
>>737816804>sony-pride-parade.jpg>nintendo-pride-parade.jpg
>>737815957>SAAR we're not into LOOnix we're Aryan Windows brethren like yours!!!
>>737816930they're not, read the imagethere is no source that claims jeets use linux that isn't scatcounter with its garbage sources
>>737817008>Jeets use LinuxWhere did this meme come from? Windows has been free for anyone with a couple working brain cells since 10
>>737817193statcounter
>>737817250So statcounter said poos were using Linux and this is a w for wintards? I use windows but not cause it's better but cause I'm too much of a retard to into whatever the fuck sudo means
>>737817729yes, every single post about jeets on linux always uses statcounter data from 2 years agothey never show current data or how about the data is erratic as shit and most of it is completely unknownjust read >>737815957, tells you all you need to know
>>737818123>windows only proprietary extremely limited 2005 spec
>>737806257xinput is shit and the reason why back buttons suck so much.
>>737818445>back buttonsYou mean "any input that isn't on a controller bundled with an xbox"
>dude I can spend $100 on a controller to play shooter games at a high level on my PC in which the default is keyboard and mouseLike the steam machine, I genuinely don’t know who the market is for this. If a game needs a controller 99% of PC players have a $50 basic Xbox-like controller laying around
>>737818189exactly
>>737818645Actually Steam stats show that only about half of controller players use ones that report as Xbox pads.
>>737818748That seems absurdly high considering the multitude of cheap 3rd party controllers. So I'd say the other anon is justified by your stat.
>>737818987A fuckton of third party controllers are included in that as they simply replicate the Xbox 360 controller's protocol and thus show up as one.
>>737818189>controller can only support one
>>737818748>>737818987>>737819179that's literally what xinput is, it replicates a xbox gamepad
>>737819204No anon, the HID protocol and the xinput API are not the same. We've been over this. You can have a gamepad throw out whatever data you want and still expose it as an xinput gamepad by writing an appropriate driver. Simply replicating the 360s HID protocol and using its driver is a lower hanging fruit though so a lot of third party controllers opt for that. That's why they commonly show up as literal Xbox 360 pads instead of Gamesaar whatever. They pretend to be one.
>>737818645>market is for thisPC gamers like options and $100 isn't a big deal for a new controller. Like I barely use controllers but I'll still pick one up being it's unique and might really click with certain games.I already have a budget 8bitdo controller and their fight stick but let's try something else. It just sucks it will sell out pretty fast and most will not get one until mid-summer
>>737805294I never understood why people love Valve and their shitty overpriced hardware. This, the upcoming weak sauce Machine and the Steam Frame with no color passthroughs and 2K Lcd display in motherfucking 2026 while Pico, Beyond, Pimax, Samsung etc have high res OLEDs and ultralightweight headsets
>>737818693(You) forgot to mention you use Arch and are trans btw
/v/ is mindbroken because a $100 controller is totally outrageous and unprecedented.
>>737805294Too expensive.
>>737822594(You) forgot to cry some more about lack of support for a 20 year old legacy API.
>>737822648just get an 8bitdo Ultimate 2, half the price from Uncle Xi.stop being Goy cattle
>>737822648god imagine paying $200 for a cucked xinput gamepad lmao
>>737822756You're the one here rambling about Linux and API's unprompted, take your meds.
>>737816882>doesn't post the images on the image boardcurious
>>737822648Have fun paying for your steam controller sweetie! Make sure to buy the overpriced steam machine and steam frame too, Valve really needs your support as a small indie company!
>>737805294It's crazy how hard steamies have been trying to push that fake ps5 drm story to distract from this blunderThey've been trained to defend billionaire Gabe very well
>>737822648If the steam controller had a resident evil print I'd understand
>>737822927have fun paying for online and validating your games every 30 days or buying key cards, faggot
>>737822954>pro controller sells for a fair markup compared to dog shit first party controllers>blunder
>>737822954>DS5 Edge>$200>potentiometer sticks so you get the privilege of buying replacements for $20 a popcan't make this shit up
>>737822925they've been posted dozens of times, just search up sony or nintendo pride paradei'm not wasting bandwidth on your mental illness
did Valve invent TMR sticks?
>>737807401But the government is spying on civilians. That's not even skitzo, that's just admitted by the government themselves.
>>737823552you'd think so considering no console made in this millennium had them
Remember when valve cultists hyped this up?Yeah they literally never learn
>>737805294i wouldn't get one because i already have my trusty ds4 and mostly stick to kb/m anywaybut it's fun watching people seethe
>>737823759valve did in fact learn from itit's why proton exists, it's why they're codeveloping drivers with amd, it's why games run better on linux now than they do on windows
I bought a Vader 5 Pro recently from a /v/ recommendation. I really like all the extra buttons it has and I Dont really use trackpads so I'll probably just fomo buy a steam controller before it gets old out
>>737822816>xinputdepreciated
>>737805294I can't imagine a better value controller on the market right now>not made with cheap ass components like chinese controllers>TMR sticks not prone to drift>100$ for a controller that will last you for decades on end>much better value than Dualsense/Xbox/Nintendo Pro controllers that you have to replace every three months or so due to issues and end up making you spend north of 1000$ on a collection of failing controllersI'm glad to pay premium if it means assured quality like the Steam Controller
This is trying to fix the problem of controllers being terrible for directing a cursor. That had nothing to do with the input method but the range of motion of a thumb compared to an arm.This is retarded conceptually and does not address the problem at all. You can also buy multiple mice, keyboards and controllers for the same price.
>>737824594>That had nothing to do with the input method but the range of motion of a thumb compared to an armGyro allows you to use your arm instead of your thumb.
>>737824274>i haven't used one yet but its the best thing EVER!!!!!!ok cultist
>>737824740>recognizing a quality product and looking forwards to it is a "cultist" thing nowYour IQ is extremely low and you should be entirely ashamed of yourself, consider removing yourself from this place
>>737814759maybe they'll draw them pregnant this time
Driftingsisters chinkshitbros we lost
>>737825093Funny, it seems like it's been ages since I've seen this guy being positive about something, that means that whatever the steam controller did, it did right
I know it's bait and shilling but the way they post really sets me off>Omg, this [steam controller] is going to change my life!nigga it's a controller>I LITERALLY can't wait for this thing. Ugh. The next few months are gonna be BRUTAL.nigga it's a controller>$100? What are you poor?nigga it's a controller>You just know this is gonna be premium! Valve never fails! Please disregard [old steam controller that flopped]nigga it's a controller>Actually they are releasing this at the perfect time because my current controller is 15 years old and I'm in need of an upgrade. This is a totally real common scenario and I definitely don't have a closet full of controllers I forgot about because I'm addicted to spending money.nigga it's a controller
>>737824943>i recognize its a quality product despite never using it since its not out!!!cultist
>>737825374Nigga you are a nigga(yes i'm white)
>>737825440It's 95% a Steam Deck without a screen. That thing's been out for almost 4 years.
>>737825440Ahhh I see you've been living under a rock, see >>737825093, tech Jesus already reviewed it and was actually impressed by it
>>737825570>Steam Deck without a screenThat flopped hard
>>737825651>tech Jesus already reviewed it and was actually impressed by itYeah i remember when youtubers were impressed with original steam controller a decade ago too
>>737825920steam controller didn't fail organically, it was patent trolled by c*rsairwhat a fucking nigger company, never bought anything from them since
removable battery with nothing soldered on
>>737826691
>>737826801
>>737805294I don't even know what that is.
>>737827080He's just a little guy, look at 'em!
>>737816804>Ad shows typical Cuphead player baseAt least Valve was accurate.
What do you think fighting game inputs would be like on the track pad
>>737822648>first party
>>737826005>steam controller didn't fail organicallyit wasn't selling well before the lawsuit
>>737822648>comparing upmarked limited editions in shartmerica to justify lmao
>>737822987>key cards BAD!>uhm, because you can sell them second hand unlike my steam games
>>737829141>i can sell them!!then just pirate? there is literally no difference between second hand purchases and piracyexcept for the fact that you're playing a cucked and restricted console version of the game and you're not getting a full refundbtw key cards are literally just enshittifying physical so nintendo can kill it off, it has zero benefits
>>737828827>chinkshitLol
>>737805428As homosexual as Nintendo is, they did the right thing with the Switch 2.Early Steam Controller purchases should onely be possible for people that have paid more than $30 for games in the past year and played more than 100 hours, that's being extremely generous.
>screws are not hidden>the battery is slotted in>no glue>no flimsy cables>basically like an old Nokiachinkshit garbage shills in shamblesfirst party trash peddlers (minus Xboxchads (minus Elitecucks)) annihilated
>>737832253I dislike this style of battery if they're not going to give us a spare one in the box and a way to remove it without opening the controller. Sure, Chang will make a replacement, but it's not going to be a good replacement.
>>737832407bro it lasts 37 hours with rumble on constantly on one charge
>>737832407Seven screws to access a tray is still way better than something like the PS5 or the Switch Pro controller. Obv Microsoft had the right idea with AA and idk why every other manufacturer insists that it's a bad design.Though ideally such devices should be using BL-5C batteries. Basically standardized, used in a metric fuckton of devices even today, and plenty of modern manufacturing of these still exists.
>>737806390>I heckin love jeet bloatware that spies on you and doesn't work properly half the time
>>737832407>I dislike this style of batteryWhy? It's no different to betteries in any other system except with contact pads instead of being wired on.You... prefer wires? Why?
>>737832526These batteries still have the same issue. You can find them, but good luck getting one with a decent capacity.
>>737829090>t-t-that doesn't count!!!$10 extra from the regular Pro Controller 2 price on the Steam Controller 2 gets you TMR sticks, 2.4g connectivity, two more back buttons in comparison, trackpads, and grip sensing. $10 extra from the Pro Controller 2 price on the Resident Evil edition gets you some ugly print on the controller faceplate.
>>737832886>You... prefer wires? Why?Because I can buy a battery with the right header and swap the wires over. I'm not limited to one pouch size, I can use something a little smaller, let's say I don't mind dropping down to 15 hours of battery life to save 50 grams. The plastic shell for the battery is a couple of grams of extra weight, while I can jumper in something smaller it would be easier to just have a header.I've finally bothered watching the video, I'm seeing some other warning signs like the back buttons being melted in, replacing those will be a pain in the dick if they snap off.
>>737815214I hate the subhuman Xbox layout so much it's unreal
>>737832407Holy shit this goy
>>737823861and it's why i am on cachyos right now despite the fact vavle killed physical medium and they fixed their reputation with proton.
>>737833260But what kind of cope is this?
>>737834220How is "this is a bad design decision" cope? Have you ever taken anything apart before, fag?We're looking at a lot of failure points here. Crappy little plastic battery cage, the pogo pins that contact the board, the battery itself. All of these could've been resolved with a standard header and a piece of foam tape, with less to go wrong and a weight saving.I'm looking at the fucking circuit design now, it's low budget late Sony membrane slop with fucking semi-circle contacts for half the buttons. Those intermittent faults will be fun as hell to diagnose. I was looking forward to this controller, the further I look the worse things get.
If they didn't want xinput, they could've added dinput instead. I'm sure someone will come up with something like ds4windows for this controller.
>>737834686it was literally already made for the original back when that came out
>>737831112>/v/ niggers when they discover that everything is made in china
>>737834761Yeah and ds4windows has been dead for a year.
>>737816078Adding it to your cart before release saves time.
>>737834945what, windows can't launch it?
>>737834503You're jumping to conclusions and speculating about something you neither have in your hands nor are going to buy. You think it's bad to be able to change the batteries without having to solder anything; that seems like a joke to me. The rest of the baseless nonsense you're spouting...
>>737833260>Being autistic enough to do this but being too retarded to spend 5 minutes soldering
>>737835134Repository is marked read only. I just found a fork of it that was updated back in February though so nevermind.
>>737835317read-only doesnt mean deadit would still work fine, just doesn't need updates
>>737822807>just get an 8bitdo Ultimate 2, half the price from Uncle Xi.I already have to 8Bitdo Pro 3s and I will boughting the Steam Controller day one.
>>737835173>You think it's bad to be able to change the batteries without having to solder anything;Do you not know what a header is? Have you never changed the battery in half of all consumer devices out there in the past 20 years? I mean I don't blame you, you're a retarded child and you probably just throw shit in the garbage long before the batteries die, but man.>>737835294From the dogshit video I don't see any other good access points that don't result in me killing the ability to use the stock battery later, unless I clean the pads off. Also means I'll need to solder in every new battery, which again, would've been solved with just having a fucking header like most other devices on the market.The poor contact design extends to the buttons, which is a far larger problem.
>>737805487Comfort is subjective. You cannot design something like this that pleases everyone.
>>737835494>Also means I'll need to solder in every new batteryNot if you solder on a socket, you fucking retard.
>>737835419Yeah but it won't support the new controller unless it gets updated, which doesn't matter since there's a fork that replaced it. Assuming the new fork adds support for it.
>>737835494what the fuck are you talking about soldering in the battery for?they're going to sell replacements on ifixit just slot it in dude
>>737805294It could be good for fighting games though?
>>737835613oh did ds4windows eventually grow to encapsulate non-sony controllers?havent used windows in ages so missed out on seeing any of thatalso steam input kinda made it not so necessary but hey
>>737835494That's your projection, you faggot. I haven't had to throw anything away, and whenever I could, I've repaired my things. Thinking that's wrong seems like the most pathetic bullshit imaginable; you must not have lived through the era when you could easily replace the battery in your phone.KYS fucking nigger
>>737835663>just slot it in dudeHis whole argument is that the battery is too big and heavy.
>>737835602>Not if you solder on a socket,To the fucking 3 non standard spacing large exposed pads, you donkey fucking moron?>>737835663What if I don't want to spend 20 bucks on a battery? What if I want to save 30-50g by sticking a smaller battery in? Honestly, it's a moot point anyway, the subframe construction has me strongly reconsidering the purchase.
>>737835752nigga wat
>>737835816>the subframe construction has me strongly reconsidering the purchase.i think you're just splitting hairs and shouting off into the void because you're just really bored honestlythis shit is laughable at best as arguments to try and start so I'll leave it at that lol
>>737835816>To the fucking 3 non standard spacing large exposed padsYes, using wires, you metally challenged semen chugger.
>>737835752Heavy?What the hell are you talking about? The entire controller weighs 292 grams, the DS5 weighs 280 grams, and the Xbox controller weighs 250 grams (without batteries). The average weight of most decent controllers is between 200 and 300 grams.
>>737834945>ds4windows has been dead for a year.What happened? I know there was a fork from ryochan7, but it's now deleted.
>>737835976nothing happenedhttps://ds4-windows.com/
>>737835892>i think you're just splitting hairsCome on man, you're the expert in controller design, tell me why carbon pads with a plastic backing relying purely on pressure are a good replacement for a ribbon cable. Tell me why having only half the buttons be correctly designed with interlinking contacts, and the other half being designed with semi-circles is actually a good thing.>>737835920So now I have a flimsy connector I've got to hot glue into the case because they couldn't design the board right and use a standard battery? That's going to be proud of the board where the battery should ideally sit? Man, you're a real fucking genius.
>>737836073how about you tell me why its bad lollooks fine to me and the engineers at Valve think so tooall of the reviews and teardowns also seem to agree that they did a great jobthe greatest even
>>737836073Like you'd magically find a battery which wasn't made for the Steam controller, yet would fit perfectly anyway?
>>737822807I don’t have babby hands
>>737836184nah the retard wants to solder in a fucking wristwatch battery for REASONS
>>737836032There is an old version, 3.3.3, when ryochan7's github was still available there was version 3.9.9 which I downloaded a long time ago.
>>737823759Windows 1.0 was a pile of dog shit too
>>737836182>how about you tell me why its bad lolThe front buttons rely on the board being held to the front of the case with a couple of screws. Not a ZIF, not solder joints, board contacts being pressed against a membrane. This is the kind of dogshit design only a retard would come up with, and only to save costs. It's the modern Sony design, which is as bad as controller design gets.>all of the reviews and teardowns also seem to agree that they did a great jobOh, well the guys paid to say it was great said it was great, that's all I need!>>737836184Yes? Any battery smaller in dimensions than the stock one would fit fine, they're all the same voltage.
>>737836531>which is as bad as controller design gets.yet seems to do the job fine and has done for years if Sony does it?people love those controllers are were harping on this one for not having features it has oh nyooo!>the guys paid to say it was greatlolreally grasping for straws now
>>737836531>Any battery smaller in dimensions than the stock one would fit fineAnd you are you going to keep in in place?
>>737836625>yet seems to do the job fine and has done for years if Sony does it?Sony controllers have some of the highest failure rates around. Microsoft are a close second, but their buttons don't fail, it's mostly trigger and shell issues. Nintendo are the best, but they do some really fun anti-consumer stuff like making screws out of paper so they strip if you look at them funny.>>737836735The magic of foam tape, used in 90% of battery applications. It's not hard to keep a battery from moving around.
>>737805294>doesnt work on pirated gameim good, sticking with my ps4 controller
>>737836906>It's not hard to keep a battery from moving aroundBut it's hard to keep a PCB socket from moving around?
>>737837148>But it's hard to keep a PCB socket from moving around?Yeah, a small hard plastic thing is harder to lock in place in a way that is easily removable later than a large pouch with a lot of surface area to take advantage of. I would just solder a battery.
>>737805294>broke /v/you mean broke sonyfags
>>737837835Odd way to spell tendie.
>>737838379hello sonyfag
>>737838496Mushi mushi, tendie.
>>737836990add pirated game as non steam game or wait for a generic driver
>>737839828>or wait for a generic driverHas already existed for months on real operating systems.
>>737839876I use Linux, and not every game uses SDL.
>>737812742I could see the touchpads being cheeks and the middle button being a shy little blep nose/snout.
>>737806257>xinputthird worlder
>>737814876It literally was. Steam deck went on sale and was sold out in minutes, for years. I remember because I went to take a shit and they were sold out.
its going to take a modder 5 minutes to add xinput, why doesnt Valve just do it themselves?
>>737841943they have zero interest in encouraging windows use
>>>292 GRAMS!?! HOLY FUCK THAT'S 0.644 POUNDS!!! THAT'S LITERALLY TOO FUCKING HEAVY FOR MY BEANPOLE STRINGSTICK ARMS!!! REEEEEE!!!!
>>737842526So they ignore 99% of their audience.
>Still has yet to be dethroned as the king of PC controllers
>>73784274299% of their audience DOES NOT care that much about xinput, and isn't 15% of their users on steam deck anyway???
>>737841943Doing it themselves opens them up to complaints from people about why half of the controller's features don't work in that mode. Letting someone else do it means it's not their problem and people getting the unofficial drivers know what they are getting into.
>>737805294>$100 controllerValve can go fuck themselves
>>737844057prices vary based on what you get and here you get a lotyou should've figured out why everyone was praising this thing months ago, you shouldn't be surprised
>>737844057Why is everyone who uses this board poor?
>>737842897>pic unrelated