Hahaha big boss your so funn-Erm guys why does he seem so serious
>>737817293But how does this honor The Boss's will?
>>737817293
>>737817942The Boss wanted a world without borders where soldiers had a home to come to. A world that is eternally at war, where borders are constantly erased and redrawn and soldiers are always at home (war), that was Big Boss's answer.
>>737817293What he did to venom made him no better than the government in the end
>>737817293The full speech is kino
>>737820079No wonder Solid was a broken man after this because deep down he knew big boss was right >YOU ENJOYED THE KILLING THATS WHY
>>737820474Growing up is accepting Snake was a good goy
I don’t understand why Kojimer immediately turns around and makes the moral of the series “War is actually great! PMCs are great!” Only a scrawny nerd from a completely milcucked nation would think this.
>>737820079So Kojima watched Rambo and went wild with it
>>737819830That's the point.
>>737817942Boss BB and Zero had no idea what the fuck The Boss wanted, only Ocelot understood
>>737821082I just don't get why they all cared so much. Imagine omegasimping for a dead broad.
>>737820856Name one game in the series that gave the impression “War is actually great! PMCs are great!”
>>737820079was big boss a jew
Remember how in MGS3, it was a surprise twist that it was actually Big Boss you were controlling?Most people at the time assumed it was VR like how, at the time, most of MGS2 was being explained as some sort of VR simulation.After the ending cutscene, the music turns ominous and evil when it gets to the 70s in the timeline and explains Big Boss founded Foxhound and then began the cloning project. It was supposed to be shocking that you played as the ultimate bad guy in the MGS series the whole time... and this facet is utterly lost on any modern player!
>>737820856I thought Kojima was conservative. Then I'm told he's left leaning and loves Che Guevarra. Is Metal Gear anti nuke? Anti social media? Anti history? Anti Mercenary? Anti War Economy?I still don't understand him, but I'm apprehensive about him being Marxist besides listening to a certain breadtuber prattle on about war and capitalism (Futurasound Productions). Like fuck I just want to enjoy my war games. Japs are such little faggots sometimes, like the French.I would simp for Eva or Quiet anytime, while putting a few hundred extra holes in the Soviets.
>>737821604Maybe
>>737822187don't worry anon, the way you speak and talk about fucking Youtubers lets us know you're the biggest faggot of all, and you're in no danger of losing the crown
>>737822792...what?
>>737822264Kojima is pro-movies, that's all.
>>737822264>>737821407Kojima is anti war but he’s not anti soldier he’s witnessed the previous generations shame and ignorance of their veterans in Japan. You just gotta realize he subscribes to a very Japanese world view he may sound like a Marxist but I bet you he only knows shit for white hippie pussy. At the same time he loves the military and the soldiers but will call out government abuse
>>737818083>be 5>play MGS>try to sneak by the first guy>interpret "I feel asleep!" as "I'm asleep now" rather than "I just woke up">get caught every time and can't understand why
>>737822920With age you realize that men are predisposed towards warfare and being a soldier, and it's not a bad thing except when there is no outlet for these violent thoughts and actions.
>>737822792>>737822836just a fine example of why /v/ is dying (mental illness)
>>737822982they meant "I fell asleep!" like the guard was yelling at himself for falling asleep just a moment ago, but they fucked up and both lines say that he is going to sleep.>I'm sleepy!>I feel asleep!
>>737822264I don't think he is a Marxist but he is a "lets all join hands and get along" type who think that the great nations of the world are preventing that and so roots for the little guy to overcome them.Really Kojima falls into a typical niche for Japanese men his age and older.They think macho action shit is cool as fuck (action films in Kojima's case) but also hate all that stuff and wish it stopped happening.So the solution to those two competing urges is making a story or series of stories about using the cool but bad shit to end the use of cool but bad shit while going on about how the cool but bad shit is bad.See also the creator of Gundam saying he failed in properly conveying the franchises anti-war message to younger genrations.
>>737823103Great localization work there
>>737822920Yeah I think people are just not understanding Japanese culture.There’s an infamous pro trans author in Japan who is xenophobic for instance
>>737820856I don't know how kojimbo can make big boss give a big villain speech about how they'll be terrorists if that's what they gotta do to pay the bills complete with the screen going red at the end of peacewalker and people can still miss the point that maybe being sympathetic and understandable doesn't mean he's a good guy
>>737820856If war's so great why aren't you engaged in one right now ? You can send a declaration of war to your local government, start living in the mountains and shooting down the officials telling you it's federal land or something.
>>737817942Boss's will?
>>737817942You see the boss's will is whatever I decide it to be.
>>737819830The fact that venom liked it and went along with it is different. Thats what venom niggers dont get
>>737825505Venom wasn’t told the truth till right before he met his end with Solid during Intrude N313 but Venom upheld the Bosses will more than BB ever did
>>737825505What choice did he have? He was already the most loyal in MSF, took a bomb for BB, and still accepted his end in MG1. Big boss took that loyalty and abused it. Just because venom is okay with it doesn’t mean it’s right
>>737821401It was goddamn weird how she gets treated as some sort of 10000 IQ warrior philosopher-queen.
>>737821082Ocelot didn't give a fuck about The Boss's will. He just wanted to please Big Boss.
>>737822187Stop larping. We knew we were Big Boss before MGS3 was even released. They did not make it a secret and the game doesn't treat it as a secret.
>>737825715>Just because venom is okay with it doesn’t mean it’s rightIt does actuallyHope this helps
>>737822187No offense but if it took you longer than an hour to figure out you were Big Boss while you're playing a Snake whose mentor is The Boss, you might just be very slow
>>737820856He literally never did this. His message on PMCs is crystal clear, just watch those dystopian PMC ads from MGS4 or play Peace Walker and then tell me again that the message is "private armies and war are great!"
>>737822187>a man in the 1960s who looks exactly like mgs2 snake... who could it be?
>>737822264>I thought Kojima was conservative. Then I'm told he's left leaning and loves Che Guevarra. Is Metal Gear anti nuke? Anti social media? Anti history? Anti Mercenary? Anti War Economy?Why wouldn't he write characters that believe the exact opposite of what he believes? You never heard of being a Devil's Advocate? This is how you make more compelling characters, not just making them evil but justified by their moral code. Understanding the points that people who disagree with you make even if you vehemently cannot fathom them yourself allows you to grow as a person and write better. Most of humanity fall into a middle ground between two extremes where sometimes capital punishment is too dangerous to hand to the government and sometimes it seems necessary to be equal to the crime committed. No one has ever been made of up of one truth alone.
>>737826137Wrong he wanted to please The Sorrow
>>737820079Why is it you guys hate localizers and yet praise this?
>>737822264The real answer is that kojima is the king of midwit takes and doesn't know shit about anything nor have a consistent personal ideology. I genuinely deeply regret wasting so much time on his nonsense as a teen.
>>737822187this is the kind of retard that thinks kojima is a genius and rides his dick over everything he posts on twitter
>>737817293Solid deserved more games. Realizing you are a killing machine at the core and deciding to use that to fight for peace on your own terms is kino.
>>737827306Raiden already did that and without being a stooge for the Patriots
>>737822920Thanks for the explanation. So he is a Japanese nationalist, but he's distrustful of governments and PMCs that are used and abused by their governments. And he hates nukes and would like the hands of the world to get along better. I'm not pro war or anti war, but I think the latter makes better war stories, more tense, more narrative driven. Like Cross of Iron (1973) which is about German soldiers during WW2 and the breakdown of Nazi ideals during austere conditions of the Eastern Front. Funny how the villain is a Prussian soldier from an Aristocratic lineage. The Nazis actually treated Prussians with suspicion, partly because they believed them to be responsible for Germany's defeat in WW1. I found his final line to be quite hilarious. "How do I reload this thing?!"
>>737822264Reading this shit is like reading Americans take on Tomino's political views in Gundam. Just admit that left/right politics has fried your brain and left you incapable of analyzing nuance.
>>737825625No, that was an artistic cutscene. He helped Big Boss all along.
>>737825715He smiled. He consented
>>737826297>>737826453>>737826630>>737827175You weren't there.MGS2 wasn't understood well at all and the vast majority of fans just wanted "Snake" back. Everyone assumed the sudden time jump backwards was a VR simulation thing since the only real explanation we had for MGS2 at the time was that it was partly a simulation.Everyone went into MGS3 wondering what the catch was, which is why that little scene of Snake wearing Raiden face as a mask and being called "Jack" happens at all... like the entire point was to hammer home that this is Snake, not an imposter.Congrats if you jumped ahead of the story and guessed correctly that this was actually a historical event, not VR simulation, and this Snake was Big Boss... you would've had to ignore the fact that Naked Snake is about 20 years younger than what Big Boss would've been at the time if you went by the MGS story up until 3... but I guess you lying faggots forgot that part!>"Big Boss was in his 50s when they made his copies." -Liquid in MGS2
>>737821082She was basically just a murder fetishist anyway
>>737822264Kpjimbo is pro-kino, simple as
>>737830201Hey check out this little article for me from July 2004 (if you "were there" as you like to put it, you should know this was before MGS3 released)http://ps2.gamespy.com/playstation-2/metal-gear-solid-3-snake-eater/532018p3.html>Yes, while Kojima has been coy about it, all signs scream that the operative called Solid Snake in MGS3 is none other than Big Boss, the legendary ultimate soldier who was the villain of the original Metal Gear, the founder of Special Forces Unit FOXHOUND and the genetic father of the soldier later known as Solid Snake. If there was any doubt, this was all but banished by the E3 2004 trailer, which showed the character wearing an eyepatch. A missing eye, of course, is the defining facial feature of Big Boss.UH OHLOOKS LIKE PEOPLE KNEW EVEN BEFORE RELEASEBUT LUCKILY YOU WERE THERE, RIGHT?
>>737820079Big boss converted to khorne worship
>>737828387Nuance is how Epstein exists. Only zealotry and fanaticism can be permitted
>>737830201Hey man here's another onehttps://www.ngemu.com/threads/e3-2004-snake-eater-mgs3.51389/>I saw the E3 trailer a few days ago, it is obvious that in this game the character is Big Boss>I don't see how anyone could not have made the big-boss connection in first week of its announcement. It was just so obvious!How come these guys "weren't there" even though they made these posts before the game ever came out?
>>737830201http://bbs.fireemblem.net/simple/index.php?t61148.htmlWoah hey another post guessing that Naked Snake might be Big Boss before the games release? Isn't he aware that he "wasn't there"?>The person who has played it reveals that the protagonist of this game is called "NAKED SNAKE".>So is he the previous name of BIG BOSS, or is it another BIG BOSS clone?
>>737820079The ending is also great. He just leaves without saying a word.
>>737830201>In the Trailer, the person proceeding with Mission Snake Eater is NOT Solid Snake, But BIG BOSS!>it is so blatant, because at the end of the 2004 E3 Trailer he is seen wearing a eyepatch and his actions in combat are diffrent to snake.https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/metal-gear-solid-3-blowout.40122/page-2I can do this all day by the wayYou fucked with the wrong shitposter
>>737820079Snake's a good man, these speeches are a cope from the loser after they got their death machine obliterated.
>>737820079>>737820938Yeah that and Apocalypse Now. You can see how that inspired the war themes in the MG2:SS, Kojima isn't very subtle about it. Strangely, vydia is actually one of the best medium to explore these themes (outside leaving within that reality which I think no one sensible would like to experience) since you get rewarded for getting better at (killing).
>>737831824
what did Kojima mean by thishttps://youtu.be/CFmfygHQ4r4?si=_OaYkOp648rwhvHI
>>737832252apocalypse now and the deer hunter are such good movies
>>737832326Nothing, because Kojima wasn't involved with ZoE. He just slapped his name on it and made you retards think otherwise
>>737832326Nothing, he didn't make that game
>>737832395>>737832412i should have known, ZOE2 is far too kino
>>737820079"On the battlefield, you and I are valuable commodities. But back "home" we're nothing but dead weight.
>>737830201Again this is bullshit.Everybody knew you were playing as Big Boss. Every game magazine mentioned it. Every interview mentioned it.Stop larping.
>>737830739>>737831074>>737831286>>737831645>Claims nobody knew you played as Big Boss before release>Posts a bunch of fans easily figuring out you're Big Boss before release>Posts a game article telling you it's Big BossIs this some elaborate new way of trolling or what? Why are you proving yourself wrong and acting like you won?
>>737830201lmao is this fucking Lionhart from GameFAGs still arguing 20 years later about the pre-release MGS3 bullshit that it was VR simulation because being a prequel was too on the nose for Kojima? Holy fucking shit, /v/ of all the places would be the last place I'd ever imagine I'd read another insufferable faggot indulge this retarded theory to death.
>>737832326Man I watched this over and over back in the day. I never skipped it either. This trailer sold me immediately, and then they kept it in the game
>>737833068>LionhartHoly shit. That's a throwback. It can't be him. No way he'd still be on this 2 decades later
>>737832326>Thaaaaat depends on the skill of the runnerKINO.
>>737820079>>737832771Back there I could fly a gunship, I could drive a tank, I was in charge of a million dollar equipment!Back here, I can't even hold a job parking cars!
>>737833142Never understimate mental illness.
>>737817293The japs lost a war and thus perpetuate the myth that all war is a result of MISUNDERSTANDING
>>737833271i wish more people had the mental illness of going to the gym and autistically counting calories rather than debating politics and this stuff
>>737832803He isn’t wrong though. At the time, people speculated that maybe MGS3 was a VR mission “playing” as Big Boss. It’s even referenced in the game - “Virtual mission?!”
>>737817293>Be capitalist government, have the "Feds" (private) print money and ask for 5% in interest (unpayable)>Has everybody strangled by banks and the financial sector taking more and more>To pay debt, either get a technological breakthrough that yields productivity gains or send men to die and pillage in foreign wars so that you can pillage the dead men to give to the financierHere Kojiimbo, that's a bit more realistic. Wait why are you afraid of using the word "capitalist"? I thought you were a leftist no? No just "leftist" as in trannydom and fags?
>>737830954Epstein exists because zealots 50 years ago had the retarded idea that Israel existing is a requirement for the end-times, so modern Israel must be permitted to do whatever they want and have its operatives blackmail anyone they please. Gundam even speaks of this: Zealots and zealotry only results in reasonable people living under the thumb of retards with retarded ideas.
>>737823434Big Sleep agenda
>>737830201Kek, dumbass.
>>737833861Big Sleep is the natural enemy of Woke
>>737832997>>Claims nobody knew you played as Big Boss before releaseAre you retarded? The game I'm replying to said that, I'm the one saying it was easy to guessReading comprehension: OFF
>>737834675The anon*
>>737819128I thought she wanted a world where soldiers no longer needed to exist. What big boss does is like the exact opposite of that.(Not that I agree with her btw, try to minimize violence sure, but you should try to strengthen yourself to survive combat rather than not have it at all. "Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one" and all that self betterment crap)
>>737822264Metal Gear is Pro Asthetics.
>>737822982>MGSbruh
>>737834434To combat wokeness you must become the nap. No you are greater than nap, from this moment forward you will be known as Big Nap.
>>737835127Whoops, should have left out that S>>737835143Big Sleep is the name of Big Nap's HQ
>>737817293I like the pure feels of mgs 3, but I think they could have done a better job of making the characters feel like they had actual ideologies before everyone admiting to bosses Le Big one World MEME past BRAPITALISM and GOMMUNISM. Like Granin was the only character who seemed to actually believe in something else in his pride as a hero of the USSR. Snake just has one line about how a soldier must follow the mission and thats it. He Never seemed particularly patriotic, or particularly of any bent or persuasion or even having a strong reason why he should follow orders. Same with Eva, Volgin, and basicly everyone else but Ocelot and his cowboy honor shtick. Every other way of veiwing things is completely glazed over to promote this one world vision. I think that being the ultimate motivation is fine, but they really should have made the "lesser concerns" feel more real for a better impact.
>>737822187People were rightfully confused, I read in multiple gaming magazines myself that the games was about Solid Snake's earlier parts career in the 60s. And considering the mask and the "Jack" healthbar joke he was hamming it up all on purpose.
>>737820617Did you forget that the plot of MGS4 was snake doing the bad guys' work, opposing liquid ocelot who was actually working against the bad guys the whole time?He literally stops all war worldwide before the 5th act with muh nanomachines
Why dont people just kill their own leaders instead? Seems like an easier and faster solution to wars with less bloodshed. If both sides just killed their own politicians.
>>737836809They've got bodyguards for that exact reason. Just do what they do in Fourecks: arrest politicians as soon as they're elected and save everyone some time.
>>737822187wat. I played the game the day it came out on PS2 and I knew it was Big Boss. They had said it in the promotional material for the game.
>>737833578He didn't need to spell out everything
>>737822187>People knew that Solid Snake's first real mission was Outer Heaven, which took place in the 80s>People knew that Solid Snake is a clone of Big Boss>People knew that Big Boss was known in the lore as the "ultimate soldier", meaning that at some point, Big Boss was a soldier and did soldier things>"HMM WHO COULD THIS PERSON THAT LOOKS LIKE SNAKE BE IN THIS GAME THAT TAKES PLACE IN THE 60s???"
>>737817942After Peace Walker, BB decided that The Boss betrayed him and her own ideals and doesn't care what she wanted anymore.
>>737836809Well assumedly you want your interest to out compete another's interests, and having a hierarchy tend to outcompete not having one. So it is often counterproductive unless you have another hierachy you are planning to put in place and at tht point you are just shuffling the deck and not making progress to whatever goal you have in mind.
But where did he get the noose
>>737834675No, you replied to this post>>737826297
>>737836809Anon if you seriously think removing a head honcho from power will upend a government you're sadly mistaken.A leader is either surrounded by loyal followers or controlled by unseen figures. Either way, if they're removed from power, another will take their place.If you want to cause an uproar, you need to remove the entire group. Not just the head.
Where can the series go after MGSV? Should the story move past MGS4 in the timeline or should there be a soft reboot with Snake and Big Boss again?
>>737837620Literally none of my 4 replies that you initially linked reply to that postAre you retarded or what
>>737837695>you need to remove the entire groupyes. all the politicians.
>>737837695And then you are not necessarily closer to whatever your actual goal is. You have to have a regime in place that has some likelyhood to fulfill those interests afterwards. Revolt only serves to overturn a unwanted system, it does not actually proactively address whatever concerns you wanted addressed in the first place.
>>737837795whoever makes the decisions after would then be the politicians.
>>737822264Kojima is far from the most nuanced writer around, but he's capable of handling subject matter without resorting to soapboxing his own views and can explore topics fairly from multiple sides. Chief example, in interviews he makes it clear he's fundamentally against all nuclear weapons and won't be satisfied with anything less than complete global nuclear disarmament, but he wrote Peace Walker. That game is all about deconstructing the pros and cons of nuclear deterrence and the two leads believe deterrence is the closest we'll ever get to world peace, and the villain is the one arguing it doesn't work and is proven wrong by the end.It's really sad how rare a quality basic objectivity is in writing these days. A guy like Kojima, whose scripts are basically just clips of old movies he likes strung together, is still one of the best we have in this industry.
>>737834823You might enjoy reading Ciconia When They Cry: Phase 1
>>737837741No more fucking Big Boss. His timeline has been explored so thoroughly that MGS5 accomplished nothing except filling in a minor plot hole that no one actually cared about. Not sure there's much you can do with Snake either, and going forward with Raiden means going further away from the tactical stealth elements of Metal Gear. Best option is probably to follow a new character in the global war economy of MGS4's time period. They'd even have the freedom to rehash the army-building mechanics of PW/MGS5 if they wanted.
>>737838002>can explore topics fairly from multiple sideslol no. You can almost never find two diametric poignant stances on whatever topic he is on about at the time. Its the mouthpiece for a concept and the token resistance. Maybe he will reinterprete it at the end through a more positive spin on the mouthpiece. Its not that kojima makes a good back and forth, he doesnt, he just chooses topics that are in themselves moderately interesting. His prime quality is in choosing interesting questions, not really in convincingly exploring two oppositional perspectives.
>>737838339>No more fucking Big Boss>Not sure there's much you can do with Snake eitherI think the obvious answer is to redo metal gear and metal gear 2. Explore peak psycho Big Boss and Upcoming Agent Solid Snake.ALso could maybe do the Boss during wwiiALso Also, could do side stories, The Patriots in Faulklands war or something stupid like that. What fucking para medic or Sigint was up to with the new Foxhound recruit Squirting Dingo.
>>737827063You are dumber now than you were as a teen. If you are growing up at all chances are your ideologies might shift ans evolve based on new experiences and viewpoints.
>>737820079Based. The ultimate practitioners, raised to practice the ultimate trade.
>>737837741>Where can the series go after MGSV?MGS6 Zanzibaryou play as grey fox fulton kidnapping soldiers and science staff around the world for zanzibar while big boss gives radio supportsmall open worlds like hitman world of assasination
>>737837980They could be monoticians
>>737839272true, but they would still be doing the same things.
>>737822264What you idiots fail to understand is that he's not trying to be obviously pro-X or con-Y. Not everybody has to take a stand. He's an artist, discussing different topics from different points of view, sometimes at the same time, sometimes with a decade in between sessions.You're all anti-woke and yet you're confused when somebody isn't inherently, obviously "LEFT OR RIGHT LOL".
>>737837741Hard reboot is the only way. Kojima's timeline is bloated already they should just abandon it, no reason to continue without him anyway. All you need is Snake, a mech and a sexy girl.
>>737838278how come? similar idea of balancing preparedness with willing to be peaceful?
>>737839804Couldnt you explore more side character or make new ones?
>>737837741Timeline reset either right before or after the MSX games. Whatever they do, Solid Snake needs to be the main character after almost 20 years without him.
>>737839870One of the main ideas explored by Ciconia Phase 1 is the idea of healthy military balance. Like if everyone flexes their arms with strong military tech and might, the act serves as a deterrent to avoid large scale conflicts. Arguments in favor and against are discussed through the story.
>>737839945Maybe
>>737835429Then who is Big Snooze?
>>737837879>whatever your actual goal isBasically, kill people until the world magically becomes perfect forever.
>>737841202>t.
>>737841202You should support a regime that does that more or less.
Killing Liquid in MGS1 was a mistake
>>737837767You are retarded.You can see your schizo posts linked to that post. Give up
>>737844485even Kojima realized that
>>737845546He could have easily came up with a bullshit explanation Liquid didn't really die at the end or was revived or something like that
>>737844485truth nuke no other bad guy mustered up since
>>737845643or used a set of clones. why make 1 set of snakes
We need MSX games remade at least imagine a gimmick of Venom is Kiefer but Big boss is hayter
>>737845867Yes>>737845856Facts
>>737817293The only time big boss was interesting.
>>737846839I wish V let you recruit venoms crew in MG1 like machine gun kid or danger duck
>>737827002Changes when I personally like them: :)Changes when I personally DON'T like them: >:(It's literally that simple. It's purely a roll of the dice on the localizer's part whether I personally approve of their work or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuyUShtcn94
>>737830794warhammer fans try not to make everything about warhammer challenge: impossible
>>737846839Hayter is shit. He was easily the weak link of the original MGS crew
>>737832252I think its an absolute bummer how almost all PS1 and PS2 classics are ripped off from movies or books. Its a shame.Silent Hill 2 is literally an amalgamtion of Lynchian works, Twin Peaks and Lost Highway with a little bit of Blue Velvet.Metal Gear is Apocalypse Now and Escape From New York and Full Metal Jacket and RamboXenogears being inspired by EvangelionHalf-Life 2 being inspired by The Godfather Like what are we doing here?
>All I want is a world that's united together and for soldiers to not be treated as soldiers>This somehow got completely misunderstood by multiple peopleHow did they fuck up this badly?
>>737847256>ching chong ping pong sayonara toshibaSEX sushi sashimi... WAR yamaha yakisoba
>>737845856Ocelot carries 4 hard
>>737844485True. I've been playing games since the NES and have played about 1000 games and to me Liquid Snake is still the best most memorable boss from any video game.
Thoughts on Kaz?
>>737848114He brought most of it upon himself for being a mole
>>737848169He wasnt really a mole. He was just focused on money and business. He only dealt with Zero for financial reasons to grow MSF. There would be no Outer Heaven without Kaz.
>>737830201I'm sorry anon, but you're wrong and stupid.
>>737848114He is a completely different character in V. I guess thats kind of the point but still, I liked chill slightly dorky Peace walker Kaz.
>>737827002Because this is real shit. Many people who enlist just to go to war doesn't do it for the patriotism, they do it because they want to have a legal excuse to kill. Some even go to war because they think they can get away with torture and rape.
>>737817293>Snake, back when your clone-father and I were bisexual business partners operating a rogue second-world aligned libertarian PMC in Columbia, we were approached by a KGB agent who promised both nearly infinite funding as well as an offshore Costa Rican blacksite from which to expand our company, but who we knew was a US deepstate and proto-PATRIOT spy sent by our former boss and ill-fated control machine designer Zero aka Cipher. However, the sweet young piece of pacifist ass he brought along, alongside spirit messages from boss' dead mother, had us going along anyways. Or maybe it was the heroin. Tightest vaginal grip I had ever seen. Anyways some years later we're pulling the raped slut out of some torture chamber in southern Cuba. She's kicking and screaming meanwhile a young prisoner, witness to her rape, is crying his ass of like 'Paz Paz no!' as we're tearing her guts out. By god the bomb came out like jelly, suddenly she spurts up all terrified like 'the bomb, the bomb!', Boss is trying to tell her 'we already got it out' when suddenly she opens the door to the fucking helicopter, everyone's fucking going apeshit trying to hold her in - bitch leans back, 'there's another' and she fucking jumps out a fucking flash of black helicopter man she fucking explodes man I'm talking shrapnel fucking blood and bones fucking total flight failure fucking mayday mayday talking where's my fucking leg man where's my fucking leg!?!?!
>>737847181Autists often dont get subtext or completely misinterpret plaintext instructions.>>737846964V isnt based enough for that.
>>737848321That's a mole. He's the cutout organization
>>737837185but wasn’t that a robot created by Strangelove
>>737847151>Half-Life 2 being inspired by The GodfatherAre you out of your mind
>>737819128>A world that is eternally at war, where borders are constantly erased and redrawnAccording to that chinaman in pic related, this is where our world is heading to. You'll hate to see this. Mgs once again was proven right
I need more MGS video essays to watch
>>737848838Unironically this is an average irl cold war story.
I just to say I liked Deltas new secrete theater with Granin saying "LEGS" and capping both of Sokalov's kneecaps. Though I dont think the second scene was necissary.
Were Kaz and Big Boss gay for each other?
>>737848114Kazuhira "Fulton a nigger, I pull the trigger" Miller is my hero.
>>737847151>I think its an absolute bummer how almost all PS1 and PS2 classics are ripped off from movies or booksHow is that a bummer? Its the reason why video games used to have better aesthetics and writing compared today
>>737820474It's also Cam Clarke's insane level of gravitas and delivery for anything.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFJqOlYaJbsThat righteous contempt just can't be matched
>>737849538Only for fujos
>>737847151imagine half life 2 on the ps2
I really do wanna see a fully realized mg1 where you start as solid training, meeting big boss getting trained, him and Holly, meeting grey fox etc
>>737847151You want to know something crazy? All those rip offs were rip offs of rip offs.
Reminder that Big Boss canonically got raped during the frigid winter of 1978 on a dirty beach in Costa Rica.
>>737849239True lol. The more I learn about what people were actually saying and doing during the Cold War, the more I realize Big Boss is a fucking hippie
>>737848838Snake, did i ever tell you about Paz Ortega Andrade? She was your father's exotic teenage latina protégée, a fine piece of jailbait from a more civilized age. She had the tigherst body and the perkiest little breasts in South America; barely legal in most countries. The Boss and I used to doubleteam her at the end of every successful mission during the Peace Walker incident and once in a while we'd have the whole combat unit division run a train over her, part of official MSF "training" of course. In time, she learned how to handle a meatshotgun better than anyone in the Mother Base. She wore a miniskirt every day so we told her there were no panties in the war, and since she was constantly doing acrobatics you'd get a glimpse of her pink pussy mid flights as she'd do a flip while practicing the choreography for the Peace Day. It was surreal We taught her to grip her microphone backwards like a dildo and she constantly got captured by the CIA and mercenaries almost every other day. It was ridiculous, like a constant porno Snake, you have no idea. And she was a good friend.
>>737820474Yeah, but MGS1 is about Snake ascending beyond just his "impulses". The player is that impulse. The end of the game, where Snake angrily yells at Vulcan Raven that "violence is not a sport", and when he refuses to shoot at Gray Fox in spite of the player's input, are all him ascending. Yes, he only feels alive when he's fighting, same as Big Boss, same as Liquid. But the difference between him and them is that Solid Snake isn't completely defined by those things. Even though he only has worth on the battlefield, he still chose to fight to oppose them.The irony is that even though Big Boss opposed the Patriots, it was his fault that MGS4 happened. In the world of Metal Gear, Big Boss created PMCs. He's the one who created "war as a business". The War Economy in MGS4 was the logical endpoint of what Big Boss was trying to achieve. He created a world in which soldiers would always be needed, where they didn't fight for anyone but themselves, but what exactly does it mean to be a mercenary who only fights for their own sake? In the end, it boils down to fighting for money. Fighting for the highest bidder. That's what PMCs are. That's what Big Boss wanted to create. Not fighting for an ideology, not fighting for a flag, not fighting for one's nation, but just fighting to put bread on your table, for a paycheck.Solid Snake fought to make sure more like him wouldn't be created. He wanted to give kids like Raiden and Sunny a future. Big Boss sold his soul, Solid Snake earned his.
I remember years ago someone said that armstrong came close to honoring the boss's will
>>737851428No. The last thing the Boss wanted was a global endless war where the line between soldier and civilian stops mattering. What Armstrong was trying to do was the exact same shit Liquid Ocelot was attempting, the very thing Sunny's anti-Patriot program was meant to prevent. For Armstrong to win would be to undo MGS4's conclusion.
>>737851663Good thing r9ising isn't cannon then.
>>737820079YOU'RE DEADWEIGHT, SNAKE!
>>737851428Not at all, Solid is the only one that got close to Boss's Will
>>737827002Post a literal translation of the original text.
>>737841202You'll either become insane or a self-loathing chuuni. Look at how it turned out for this guy.
that's basically peace walker and mgs5
>>737837741Bro the series ended. No Kojima = No Metal Gear Solid. This is why all you're getting are shitty demakes and demasters.
>>737846964Dirty duck
>>737850918Its fine, the perpatrator was paid back and then somehttps://youtu.be/yYrnW2xB5bA?si=Q7ayY1J-4_0yrTqM
>>737837741Reboot and retcon, Kojima made too much horseshit to go on from, and he really should have just stepped away and wash his hands. The very least, set it after 4/Rising and explain the rest as mercenary tall tales and VR sims.
>>737855254I am so lt justice was livered on to Big Boss's raper. Rest in power.
>>737837741Her me out: The Boss's mother during the Russian Civil War
>>737834823>>737819128The Boss really wanted the same thing that Snake and Otacon want. To let the world be.Her speech is part of the cover story she has to feed Big Boss as part of her mission to keep the US government's hand's clean. You have to listen to her speech in context of the fact that she is on a suicide mission to hide America's guilt. She is trying to tell him as much truth as she can, but she needs to appear to be an idealistic, stateless terrorist.She is literally dying to make sure America and everyone still keeps their borders.It is one of the reasons Big Boss is so furious when he is saluting her grave after he finds out the truth. He is not just pissed off at world for betraying her, he knows she betrayed him. The Boss tricked him into killing her to keep America safe.
>>737859753>It is one of the reasons Big Boss is so furious when he is saluting her graveuh, from what I remember he's trying to keep himself from sobbing. What are you talking about?
>>737854660Coward Duck
>>737837741The only parts left is Big Boss setting up Outer Heaven and Zanzibar land.
