S&boxsisters...
>>737818851Imagine paying 20 dollars for this, LOL
>>737818869Oh, so it's literally just roblox, huh?
If s&box succeeds it will kill any hope of Valve ever releasing a functional Source 2 SDK. I really hope it dies as soon as possible.
I never really understood Gmod, as far as I can tell it was mostly used (by children) for shitty animations (replaced by SFM) and shitty social deduction games (replaced by amogus)I understand this even less than I did Gmod. Whos this for and what is it trying to be? Is it trying to steal the playerbase of Roblox (children) by appealing to nostalgia for something that they weren't even born for?
>>737819030>If s&box succeeds it will kill any hope of Valve ever releasing a functional Source 2 SDKWhy? Garrys vision for engine is not the same for Valve, they would absolutely do things differently if they got sufficient enough of a reason.
>>737819073Your mom
>>737819142Valve is lazy and they are already referring to this slop as the primary way of getting access to the SDK. If it becomes widely used we'll never see an official Source 2 SDK being released.
>>737819002More like fortnite
>>737819337that's a community driven wiki
>I could pay for 20$ for this to become a slave to a closed platform with their creator fund they can change on a whim so I can publish to a minuscule audience it has >Or I could download Unity/Unreal/Godot for free and publish my game on my own terms on any platform of my choosingWhat a difficult choice
>>737818851DOA boys
>>737818851>its not ready>It's not ready>It's not ready>It's not ready>OMG gmod2 epic bacon xisters!>It's not ready>its not readySo it wasn't ready....
>>737820359S&box only makes sense in a vacuum where basic gamedev hasn't been solved by YouTube tutorials.Its like making a device for getting the crumbs out of your carpet as a broom and vacuum sit 3 feet away from you
>>737818851Is there a single game on Dreams/Roblox/LBP/Whatever thats not a shitty ripoff of a better game/mobile slop?This idea will never work, why would someone competent make a game in another game instead of a dedicated game engine.
>almost all the positive reviews are from people who got the game for freegarry what's going on there big guy
>>737819073garrysmod was originally popular hl2 mod where you could build stuff. sandbox to mess around.then it became stand alone paid thing i don't remember maybe 2-3 years later. then it still took some years before it became more known for other game modes or videos than the original construct things.
https://youtu.be/SaGZZfDtAOg?si=t6xaQZVmS5kiRL7kJBmod chads, our time is now
>>737821771You ever heard of sourcemods? That's what you call something that started off as a source engine base game.
>>737818851all they needed to do was make gmod but with the source 2 engine slapped on. facepunch has from day 1 been full of fart huffers so this is no surprise
COME ON /V/ GIVE IN YOUR POWER
>>737821764well yeah, theyre the ones who made all the kid casino lootbox sims, if there's no players they dont get any more rubles
>>737818851Fuck yes, more bullet heaven survivor like autoshooter roguelike slop. I unironically love these and buy every single one that comes out. Pump this stupid shit out faster please and take my money
>>737819002$20 Roblox with a buy in to play and hundreds more in microtransactions day one, do you rike? >>737821764"Content creators" in the literal sense got to keep their access to the game moving on from the beta for churning out AIslop games, and everyone else had their access revoked at the last moment a week or so before release. I'm actually curious what the server list looks like since beta was a dead list with a single RP server with more than 20+ players
https://www.twitch.tv/forsen
>>737822459Oh kek thanks. There's like basically no content about this shit online at the moment for me to gauge what the hell's going on with it with.
>>737822459>game crashed his entire streamKek garry getting away with it again
roblox takes a 70% cut from 'developers' and you have to play ON roblox. s&box takes 0% and you can sell your game on steamanyone making a comparison and ignoring this is an actual dumbfuck nigger
>>737823739Game is being judged by all people from players perspective, not dev you massive Garry cocksucker
>>737823543can you post a webm of what happened
>>737818869
I'm not done talking to you chuds
source 2 as an engine with an excellent deal for devs will eat shit and die because goyrry is a monumental retard that: >wanted to force it to a shitty roblox clone platform >wants to fill it to the brim with mtx even though it's 20 bucks already>wanted the face of the game to be godawful fanboy and chum chum tier designs>is dogshit at actually designing an engine and just copies all the garbage from unity/unreal instead of doing it like valve does things>rushed the game out in a way that makes it look like it's just a shitty cashgrab (it probably is)kill this nigger
>>737823840Nah but basically he joined a random sandbox gamemode server and someone did the explosive barrel trick
>>737823739Ok, the "game" still sucks.
>>737823739It's silly how you think that this matters when the intended userbase for both is young children If anything, all Roblox games being inside the same client and account makes it better for discoverability
indie devs are NOT happy...
>>737823739Roblox has a trillion playersSandbox has a few thousandDo you want30% of 1 million dollars, or 100% of 5 dollars?
>>737823928Nice screenshot anon
>>737822459>people are spamming the in-game chat and lagging his gameholy kek
>>737823785>there were no gmod viruses>yes there were, here's proof>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE UNDERAGEB&Why do people have egos on an anonymous forum where you have nothing to lose from backing down and nothing to gain from doubling down
>>737823928Myopia bros....its not lookin good
sorry not buying it until someone makes THIS kino againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLgaKyehIAw
>>737823928antbros...
>>737823739hypothetically a sandbox game could get even slightly popular and some third worlder will copy it to roblox where trillions of kids will choose to play over the original because they don't have to ask their pissy mom for 20 dollars to play it
>>737823928Even ants hate the sausageslop
>>737823972>Do you want30% of 1 million dollars, or 100% of 5 dollars?The latter, I know what I'm worth.
>>737819002roblox but you pay for it and it's also worse by every possible metriche was working over a decade on this btw
>>737824010What the fuck were they doing for the whole beta period to not fix basic shit like this?
>90% of positive reviews point out the user got the game for freekekypow the absolute state
LOOK AT THESE UPCOMING KINO GAMES
>>737818851Lots of annoying people trying to be annoying over this point including even Garry himself but yes it is actually gmod 2. It's all there, you can load some half life models into it and strap rockets on to them and then go play dark rp or terrorist town. It is gmod 2.It's just not very good.
>>737824171This anon gets it. I'm not taking the 10 million dollars up front, I'm taking 1 dollar that doubles everyday for 5 days! #grind
>>737824192that's a game specific thing not sbox related
>>737824192desperately trying to convince people that the sausage men don't look like shit
>>737820359Garry is retarded, a well known fact
>>737823739>would you rather not drink liquid shit but only get 30% of millions of dollars, or drink liquid shit and get 100% of the profit of a game nobody is going to play?if it makes you feel any better, whatever you wasted years of trying to make in this broken piece of shit can be done in like an hour on roblox and you'll also still get paid more for it LOL
>>737824310I like the sausage men, but I also really liked fanboy and chumcum as well as Mr meaty, so I get why people hate them
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHACan't believe the discord was shilling this trash as DA NEXT BIG THING for a long ass time. It was supposed to be a le revolution in gaming, turned out to be shitty paid Roblox. What a fucking joke, hope Gmod will get a boost from this shit.>>737819073People liked Gmod because it was the ultimate playground. You could just mess around and laugh at wacky physics, you could actually make animations, create contraptions, do RP, shoot each other on various maps, create social hangouts, check out various gamemodes and almost make full games.Also shitty bait. Gmod kept going and even was prefered by some after SFM and TTT was just one gamemode.
>>737822459holy fuck this looks like SHIT
>>737824208>existing thing (but bad)>existing thing (but bad)>existing thing (but bad and only barely not infringing copyright)>existing thing (but bad)that'll be $20.
>>737821645There was a kid who was making a pretty cool Avatar (the cartoon) fangame in Dreams
>>737824057Are you also scared the serverblight is real and gonna get you?
>>737818851isnt this made by garry? the massive cuck who removed WW2 larping servers?
Post yfw you didn't get scammed by Garry
>>737824353even looking at boog his proportions are more cartoony, he doesn't have the weird contrast of real skin on a cartoon body, and from what i see everyone doesn't look like him, that's still much better imo
>muh shitty minigames>muh cash grab storeThe real issue is there's no soul
>>737824346>>737824169>>737823925>>737823920>durr uhh why do any games exist outside of roblox
>>737824472
>>737818869Welp, that's a pass.
>>737824109No buy until someone makes this, RP faggots ruined gmodhttps://youtu.be/8Ea9n-zQPE4?t=26m3s
Tears of the Kingdom bros.... we won...
>down to 51%GARRY ARE YOU OKAY ARE YOU OKAY GARRY?
>>737824536Your game is worse than Roblox, Garry.
>>737822459>modes literally copy pasted over from robloxshaitan game
>>737818869ipad baby core
>>737818851Reminder Garry is a commie faggot and deserved to fail.Nice roblox, faggot.
>>737824536your game is literally a worse version of roblox you need to get over this
>>737824520the shitty minigames and cashgrab shit are one of the main reasons why it looks so soulless
>>737822056IT'S NOW 51%
>>737824469>larping
>>737824536At least you don't have to pay $20 for Roblox, you know?
>>737822459This is disastrous PR for the game
>>737818851Why don't you guys create the games you want to see in S&box? Isn't that the whole point?
>>737823846garry fell the fuck off
>>737818851I had access to s&box since 2021and there is literally barely any FUCKING difference, still feels the samefeels like shitruns like shitlooks like shitit's just shit brolike 5 years for this shit?it literally looks not that much different than in 2021 i'm glad i never paid for this LMFAO
>>737824702>guys please pay 20 dollars for my shitty roblox cloneNo
>>737824536how are you actually able to post that with a straight face when this game is literally trying to be roblox 2
>>737824702Why use S&box when I can use an actual engine?
>>737824702Because those games already exist and are better.
>>737824702i did when i was like 15in robloxand it was free
Is this actually the only way Valve will give us access to Source 2 tools...?
>Don't use Unreal slop and it will be great
>>737823719>You're a jew for being creative instead of giving Gabekike moneyPcbros are not human
>>737818851Be honest with me /v/ros...Can it at least surpass its own player peak of 12-something thousand?>>737824469YupHaving hecking natsee larpers is bad, but infestation of self-admitted pedo erp servers is a-okay
>>737824648Yet another communist victory over nazis lmao
>>737818851Erm...
>>737822459am I having a stroke
>>737818851>full of ai slop assets already we just have to admit the era of gmod is dead and will never come back
>>737824790>victoryuhh... hes getting btfo'd...
>>737824794Are you canceling him for posts made 6 years ago
I thought the game just came out?
>>737824794isnt he british
>>737824790>victorydoes xhe know?
>>737824840>we just have to admit the era of gmod is dead and will never come backWith leadership of Garry over the game? Not a single doubts, he's a fucking retard.
>>737824879There was some form or early access or beta since like 2024
>>737824879They gave out select early access for 5 years or so
>>737824702the only games i dev are personal and resemble other games always 1:1 but with my own fetishes inserted everywhere, and they'll never be released for the public. Godot works well for that, i don't see a point in swapping from it to sampersandbox.
JBmod Source2 better
>>737824864Caring about American troglodyte politics is a sign of mental deficiency
>>737824778>Look at this creative wor-AAAAAAAAAACK!Not fooling anyone Garry Jewman.
>>737824778>my jew is better than your jew
went over to roblox to shitpost a bit and>tower defense on the front page>block tales is a multiplayer super mario RPG>two anime games that are probably better than actual anime gamesI can see why the children are getting obese, they're eating GOOD
>>737818851This game radiates vile midge energyIt is spiritually evil
>>737824590would be funny if it was 41%
>>737824996
>>737824472Feels great knowing I'm not brain damaged
>>737824702It's not the 00s/early 10s anymore. Game engines are free
Sweet Jesus this shit will never endTime and time again people have to learn that "from the people who put their name on a thing like 10 years ago" genuinely means nothing and you'll get nothing but disappointmentYet retards keep tripping over the same shit over and over and over againWHEN WILL YOU LEARN
>>737824660>>737824672>>737824747my game will be on steam, you will play it without knowing me and gary tag team raped you, in spirit. i will never unknowingly play a game on roblox. youwillbesRAPEboxed
>>737825039>oil empiregood to see the children still yearn for tycoons
>>737824208I will never get the appeal of opening cases in CS. It seemed to consume everyone when I used to play GO and apparently it still does.What's so compelling about a shitty slot machine for garish weapon cosmetics? It's TF2 hats but worse because it's in a semi realistic artstyle.
>>737819073Back in old days when we were kids we could fuck around hitting hl2 characters with toilets make them fly while spewing diarrhea out of their asses making them do stupid faces and laughing out ass off.People made custom maps so you can basically have gameplay maps using source game assets, like a single hl2 level or something. These days I think people play mostly RP servers which are like some economy thing work roleplay thing.Most exciting thing about this is that you get to access source engine, which basically means that those legendary source mods like Cry of Fear, Underhell, entropy zero could be released as standalone games for free giving wider access or even be paid allowing those modders to monetize their work if they want that. And you don't have to use unrealslop or unityjew. Previously it was hard to get source license now you can just fucking get it for $20. Don't judge it yet by those shitty Roblox games that are on platform now the best things will come out in few years and will be standalone.
>>737825062>*posts roblox knock-off games for literal toddlers*
>>737825102vvvvgh... sovl......
>>737825039I mean yeah, Roblox has a lot of shit but then there are some games that are genuinely fucking high quality AND you get to play them for free
>>737825126would be based if 99% of those games weren't just p2w idlers disguised as management games.
>>737825039half of those are idle games with real money lootboxes
>>737825094how many hours in darkrp?
>>737825105i just wanted garrys mod but with better physicssomehow i got the complete fucking oppositehow do you make a game with WORSE physics than a 20 year old game
>>737822459>devs earn irl money for the games they make oh good, how could this ever go wrong with people making slop for cash, it will be just like those "shark survival" levels on little big planet
>>737825102>the peak of s&box game design is an India simulatorGarry, what the FUCK is this?
>>737825194is there a win state now? when i was 12 you just build a factory and watch dollars go up
>>737825158compared to... triple a games with huge studios behind them that are usually released on steam with a 80 dollar price tag?
Why did they use the hot dog people? Fucking hilarious.
>>737825149issue is that you can't even do standalone releases rn
roblox is for children (full of joy and whimsy)s&box is for manchildren (dead inside)
>>737825207One, maybe two? Most of my GMod time was in TTT
>Probably peaked at 10k at bestYeah, this shit will be unironically dead in two weeks
>>737823928S&bros... I thought this was going to be Garrys Mod 2.
>>737818851I don't really know who the audience for this. A lot of the kids that played Gmod are grown up and moved on, and the third worlders still playing it aren't going to play anything else. Good luck trying to poach the Roblox/Fortnite audience, that certainly worked for every company that's tried it
>>737825172>woblox>fweezoomers deserve what scraps i left them
>>737825269What Garry has to offer in his "game" is more pathetic than the weakest indie title, it's sad that he thought Roblox was the right things to parrot.
>>737825102If that was an anime girl instead of a sausage man, /v/ would be playing this and shilling it as based
>>737825267not really, but highscores and ways to increase the rate yours climb with money. it's genuinely evil because kids are retarded; my friend's brother spent his $40 bday present buying a "speed up" in one of those, even a fortnite skin would've been less bad.
>>737825303yea, that's also not a game
>>737825039>multiple roblox games have average daily player counts that are orders of magnitude higher than s&box will ever haveL O LOL
>>737824794the usual tds
>>737824918how was he able to make gmod a success in the first place if he's so bad at managing?
>>737825389you're really just calling garry retarded again but in a more roundabout way
>>737825389Most brap posts are shitposts. Men who sniff braps irl come back shellshocked.
>>737825105this entire thread is mocking it, retard. there's like one or two indians who got kicked off of roblox trying to shill this here and that's it.
>>737824010LOL
It's weird seeing roblox get praise even in service of shitting on something else. Like it's a baby game for little kids, there shouldn't be any kids on here?
>>737824702If the idea is heavily reliant on another game, I'd rather mod that game (eg Boneworks). If the idea is largely original and wouldn't benefit from that, Unity and Unreal are quite mature with decently generous licenses.S&box doesn't offer an interesting enough framework to appeal to modders, as it successfully disconnected itself from the Source Engine modding community. So you get little out of it.
>>737825339It's amazing how much worse normal sandbox is. Worse spawnmenu, worse tools and less of everything. My gmod playtime is split between one multiplayer server and scene building in singleplayer and there's no reason to change that now.
>>737825549Eternal summer
>>737825281>Garry's humor
>>737825281Literally garry's ego issues. He thought the game needs something to stand out, which was a sensible idea. The problem is that when he showed sausagemen and EVERYONE hated them, instead of trying something different he got offended and doubled down, only giving alternative regular human characters but still pushes the stupid fucking dick people to the forefront.Dude is just huffing his own farts at this point.
>>737824794>>737824648>tds>AAAA IS THAT A WORLD WAR TWO ROLEPLAY SERVER? SAVE ME DADDY MARXYEEEEEEEEEEEEEP. This loss for Tr&sbox is a win for gaming.
>>737825452He got lucky that his mod was there when it was, that's all.It succeeded in spite of him.
Can't wait for the Garry seethe posts. Fortnite already did the "copy Roblox homework" thing so what the actual fuck did Garry thinking with this pathetic attempt?
>>737825516jej
>>737825452His beginnings were humble but money outed his inner jewish faggot over time.
>>737825549/v/ is the 2nd worst containment board after /pol/. one is for underage, one is for underwhite
>>737825549It came out in 2006 with soulful games, nothing has changed besides creators being big noses
>>737825613sounds alot like a notch situation
>>737825516i think that was actually because he was complaining that roblox was full of pedos and he couldn't find a disable chat option in the settings
>>737825602>tr&sboxkek
>>737825549Think about who else would be interested in a game only played by little kids.
>>737825549children born the year roblox released are now 20 years old anoni was 8 when it came out and i played it until i was like 16 and built a pc with an actual GPUi am now approaching 30 and remember it fondly
>>737825549/g/ had a 100+ post Scratch thread because some CEO guy accused the babies on the platform of using ad hominems against him
>>737824702>make my loli game in s&box
shitting on garry newman the cuck aside, did they remake Flood yet? can anyone that owns the game look this up?that was the shit
>>737822459this stream is costing garry at least 50 thousand dollars
>>737825549the kids who grew up playing roblox continue to play it in adulthood. their tastes just changed.you fell behind unc LOL old ass nigga
>>737822459It's so fucking over
>>737825764yes, it's ok.
>>737825414by what metric?
>>737825674Yeah true that but Notch just sold his game off to Micrococks instead of raping its dead corpse himself.
>>737825759Garry said no porn btw
>>737825549Old roblox was fun and had a lot of soulAnd to give it credit yes Roblox has problems and a bunch of brainrot shit but if you're determined you can make a pretty polished game on there and let kids play it for free
>>737825702This but unironically and I look like this instead and say this
>>737825414You're right, it was a game mode made for free in a sandbox game for enjoyment. Garry's Mod was about fun, S&Box clearly isn't. You're paying $20 thinking you're going to make the next big game with a tenth of the effort and then get pissy that people who actually enjoyed GMod don't want to get drowned by Roblox slop in something they paid $20 for. As a reminder, the hyperautists on Roblox make crazy shit in spite of Roblox not because of it. When I was a kid it was nothing but survival and obstacle course obbys.
>>737825389>if things were better /v/ would be more happyyesan anime girl does not make something good automatically but it sure as fuck is an improvement over the "shit you'd see on late night nickelodeon" sausagemen
>>737825389But it's not an anime girl so you just look like a brat.
>>737825516LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>737825789oh FUCK, are there actual players on flood? i will unironically get this
>>737824702Why would you make a game in s&box instead of just using an established engine?
>>737825491smellshocked
>>737825827all me
>>737825834I thought bob's burgers was on adult swim
>>737825549all games are for childrenone of the best sellers in the recent years was literally just a port of a roblox game to unity
Yeah, I don't know.I am holding back my skepticism, still.
>>737818869Hoverboard looks like a penis
>>737822459Im thinking soul
>>737825695>scratch mentionedHere's my shitty scratch game I did for the Harvard CS50 classhttps://scratch.mit.edu/projects/961165291
>soulful baby gamesOkay lol
i have never met a single person that has played roblox
>>737825820Pic fixed for (you)
>>737818851What was he thinking
>>737825974why would you be proud of it
>>737825974I did entire group but then i ended in jail for impersonating pre-school teacher
>>737825840>>737825516>>737824010>>737822459frosen.. please stop you're hurting our reputation :(
>>737825974that's a good thing since they're all brown kids
>>737825549why are you feigning surprise?i'm 24 now, but was on here since 2014.the amount of 4chan users that visit it for the first time already being an adult is probably <50%.
>>737826001imagine if his characters looked like those sexy female rabbids instead, i'd buy four copies
>>737825695>CEO guyHe's the director of technology, not ceo
Team Fortress Source 2 when?
>supposed to be the successor to Garry's Mod>the majority of the effort went into monetization schemes>the creator community only cares about making money>cheap ripoffs of Roblox or Fortnite content boosted by bots to maintain the appearance of an active playerbase>at each-other's throats, guarding knowledge about the engine like it's sacred to ensure they get the edge over their competitors>NFT tier cosmetics market speculating on pixels on a screen>it's basically an Indian shitting street full of desperate "hustler" browns killing each-other over access to the wallets of the few non-browns playing thisI'm sure both Garry and Gaben are salivating at the thought of all of this taking off and them skimming a bunch of money off of it without moving a finger, but as it stands now this shit is going to self-destruct (or maybe I should say self-flush) fast.Modding worked great for decades before the shekel-grubbers started trying to monetize it.
>>737826139it was taken down, not allowed since it's not a source mod
>>737822459this game looks like dogshit LMAO
>>737826162>>at each-other's throats, guarding knowledge about the engine like it's sacred to ensure they get the edge over their competitorsSo literally every game dev community
>>737826139Last project got DMCA'd, nobody can do it without an actual licensing from Valve.
>>737825820(You) look like this and saying that
>>737826091>>737826001garry's sosig men are significantly less appealing than rabbids and minions
>>737824648>literally left it up to a god honest vote.>nazis lose said vote.>follow what the voters wanted.you can critique gary for a lot, but polling the community and respecting the outcome of that vote isn't one of them. you should've voted for the outcome you wanted, but you didn't, did you?
>>737822459what the fuck is facepunch doing
>>737825974I met two of my best friends (who I'm in contact with to this day) on Roblox HQ>>737826073moot made 4chan when he was an underageb& and quit the site before he made it to 28 years old (ancient fossil)truly an eternal reminder that 4chan was for teenagers + young adults and that oldheads are out of touch
>>737826236No? If you actually learned game engines like Godot or Gamemaker you'd know there's plenty of learning material, guides and tips online as well as various templates you can examine to see how they work
>>737825878It's called flood survival, two lobbies with 7/8 players.
>>737826162I don't think gaben knows about or would endorse garry's concept of directly paying people to fill his nascent platform with AI slop
>>737826307sad, remember when valve used to hire people who made projects like that instead of DMCA'ing them
>>737825603this and probably the same with rust
>>737826308>"(copyright) TLC/BACKGRID">"TLC New Season">"My 600lb Life Next Wed"
>>737822459every game ive seen him open up so far has daily login bonuses lmao>WHY DIDNT YOU WANT ROBLOX 3 BROS
>>737825798>Garry said no porn btwreal? why would he exclude the genre of game that is consistently featured in steam's 'new and trending' every week (often several entries) in his literal "make a steam game"-game?>you're not allowed to make a popular game type with this engine because i say so
>>737826350I think we should put your execution up to vote.
>>737818851JBmod aryans wonS%box sissies lost
>>737826403thank you anon.
>>737826528>S%box
>$20 + real money cosmetics shop for your thumbhead model that'll just get replaced by a better one asapAm I reading this right?
Garry is the most arrogant motherfucker alive who just struck lightning in a bottle with making a Source engine overlay twenty years ago. Nobody asked for a dipshit-friendly game SDK trying to be Roblox except with ugly sausage people. Everyone just wants to play TTT on Source 2.
>>737826528tr&boxfags OBLITERATED
>>737826162It could work out fine if Garry just fucking moderates the thing. If he just dropped the ban hammer on all of the AI slop and obvious scams then that would scare the fuck out of the creators that are left and set a minimum standard that they need to reach in order to not get bent.I kept my access from the closed alpha and the amount of "test" games that are flooding in as we speak is fucking terrifying, so many games that literally doesn't even start is spreading like wildfire through the storefront at the moment and drowning out all of the amateurish but decent games.
>>737824648What a fag.>>737826350Putting it to a vote in the first place is why he's a faggot, I dont see the soviet server up for a vote.
>>737822459That retard from small fish is trying so hard to make this AI slop platform look good. He even donated money begging forsen to play his shitty My Summer Car clone. Devs will do anything for playfund money.
>>737826236>So literally every game dev communityoddly except roblox, I've seen a lot of game dev tips and tutorials for it. then again the player base for that is in the billions
>>737826438they lost their soul, their only successful games (besides hl) are literally mods. (tf2, dota2, cs)
>ugly sausage guy on the main menu>ugly sausage guy on the loading screensjesus he really thought he made something great with that model didn't he?
>>737826350this would've been an interesting thing to bring up if you didn't do this with the ugly default playermodels and then keep them anyway after everyone told you they were shittr&box lost. even with forsen shilling it, nobody gives a fuck.
>>737826528>S&box has no leaf blowerCheck and mate, weenies
>>737826756>just change the model brosKYS GARRY MOD
>charge money>almost no moderation of the games so its filled with sludge
>>737826478I feel bad that I was one of the people who grew up on those games and it was so normalized I nearly put them in my own games until I learned it's a predatory pressure/addiction thing. I had no idea, I thought it was just a standard game feature. I'm 25 years old for reference.
>>737826725and portal was based on a student project
>>737826579Correct, and no it doesn't make sense from a player perspective. You'll fail to find most popular GMod games even recreated at this point in lieu of dogshit clicker-tier "games"For a prospective dev perspective(target sucker demo), this is a potentialman game with easier publishing direct to Steam, the closest thing to a Source2 SDK Valve will ever put out, and dreams of their own low effort microtransactions on the Steam marketplace. Garry will take a cut of course as well as Valve
>>737826350>respecting the outcome of that voteHey, wasn't there another poll where everyone voted against the sausage people? Funny, that.
there's a high chance that when you play games on s&box, it's vibe coded slop kek!
>>737822459>>737826478>it's true
>>737826725left 4 dead? deadlock?
>>737826756garry modelled it himself so it must be good
>>737818851garry lost me a decade ago with the forced character race/gender based on steam id in rust, i'm not playing his slop ever again
>>737826871That explains all the crashing.
>>737826438>Literally take assets straight out of TF2>Even take code from the leaked source>Slap it into a completely different game that Valve (at the time) earned 0 money fromCome the fuck on anon, I don't like that its gone either but they themselves admitted that Valve warned them twice before throwing the book at them since they knew that all of the assets were ripped straight out of TF2
>>737826725>not mentioning L4DSomeone's missing out on all of the kino L4D2 campaigns (except for those Silent Hill custom campaigns which are for some fucking reason 2+ hours long with annoying key item searching)
>>737826889>Left 4 Dead was originally based on a modification (mod) created by Turtle Rock Studios. Here are the key details regarding its origins:The Original Mod: The concept began as a modification for Counter-Strike: Condition Zero (and later Source) called "Terror Strike".>deadlock is icefrogs dota 3
>>737826807>>737826901>a bunch of the games choose not to use it at allkek, not to mention he really loses out on the whole appeal of buying cosmetics for your character if your character is always going to be butt ugly, he never seen all the dumb girls clothes that flood the roblox store from all the girls who will probably go on to play sims?
It's funny, I've seen pictures of games people have put actual effort in, on their Discord, and they look alright, but half the games Forsen is playing haven't even bothered changing the default lighting.
>>737827038ye i forgot about l4d, its also based on a mod.
>>737827074@grok please hallucinate a way for me to be correct
>gmod: freely download any player model from the workshop you want free of charge, thousands of trademarked characters to choose from>s&box: pay 20 real ass dollars for a single accessory to put on your ugly sausage man avatargosh i just cant pick which one sounds better
>>737826478even worse is the maps the spam you with a donation screen when you load them
>>737827105If most games on the front page look like that it's quite telling.
>>737826602Well you can
ban uploads from india
>>737825108i don't just throw money around for indieslop, i always torrent before i ever consider buying. you might make 10 sales off of literal children for your junk. enjoy having most of those "profits" taxed by steam, fag
>>737827171of course except turtle rock themselves literally stated it started as a mod you faggot and if you are talking about deadlock its legitimately shit.
>>737827192gmod: cooms&box: coom banned
All I ever wanted was a god that let you spawn the zombies from L4D in it rather than the HL2 zombies
>these are the type of people defending s&box
>>737827192i just don't understand how shills can even attempt to defend it, it's simply not possible that they even know what gmod is
Garry's gonna have to rush Rust 2 now that his scam flopped.
>>737826871>SAARpersandbox
>>737827240unfortunately you are a mouthbreathing retard who needs AI to think for you so I have discarded your opinion
>>737827105Too bad that it's just going to get worse, Garry really needs to give up on making the game (or at least access to the library) free. It's nice that him and Valve released the source code on Git but allowing bad actors to completely flood the library can only end in disaster for everyone involved, including the scammers. This might be the one time in his career where not going hands off might benefit his game.
>>737819002bitch you WISH this was as open to creativity as roblox. People sleep on that shit but arsenal, the old left 4 dead lobbies, and the sonic R port on there are genuinly better than some things people charge 20$ for on steam, case in point. You gotta sift through the dogshit though, theyve really tried removing the fun stuff and push mobile transaction slop down your throat.>>737824648honestly the nazi rp's werent even the worst casualty of this. dark rp adjacent servers blew donkey dick, those were just kinda funny since it contextualized the power hungry jannys. the true peak was the columbine deathmatch maps that he silently took down. Those were absolute chaos fighting players who randomly turned into gorillas or whatnot as the dastardly duo or trying to survive as a random student.Shit like that is what sandbox will ALWAYS lack. That freeing feeling that embodies the interent. Copyright infringement and poor taste humor with a bunch of retards having a good time.
>roblox without the sex appeal
>>737827296that already exists and has for years
>>737827342lmfao, you cant even use google you stupid faggot
>>7378246481942RP is generally trash though
>>737827441@gemini please explain the difference between a mod and a prototype in terms that even an extremely retarded 4chan poster can understand
>>737827394I think the problem is that Roblox appeals to lots of autistic kids while this seems to be made for grifters and "genius game devs" without actual heart or creativity
>>737827328zestyZoomerBros our response???
>>737825549>This liquid diarrhea is worse than this semi solid diarrhea its directly competing against>WHOA WHY ARE YOU PRAISING THE SEMI SOLID?
>>737827192the obsession modern UGC games have with respecting IP law is heartbreaking
>>737827398>sex appealnigga that is an extremely poorly modeled, textured, and lit, extra-wide psuedo-lego character model.
Just played TTT on it, there's a lot of work to go. I'm super surprised the facepunch team didn't hyper polish some of their best sellers of all time like TTT, DarkRP, etc. before putting this out. This game has been in an on-going alpha since 2021, and the fact that these games are horribly unpolished at release is a bad sign, I'm not sure what they spent 5 years hiding this for.Also the characters are so fucking ugly, it's insane. I don't need to mod anime waifus in, but I can promise that the roblox crowd is not gonna come in with their current assortment and customization. I would say this game is pretty unplayable in it's current state.
>>737827192Didn't the player models only work if the server had it?
>>737827331>i just don't understand how shills can even attempt to defend itHope the internet being dead drowns out how terrible and obvious the astroturf is. (It both doesn't and can't)
why would i use this over Godot?
>>737827534Garry is specifically selecting for that kind of person with the play fund system, it monetarily incentivizes third-worlders to shit out as engagement optimized clickbait games
>>737827590look at those blocky legs..
>>737824702>pay to make a game for others to play so they'll pay to repeat your mistakeJust pick up a beginner's guide on how to code instead, those are free
>>737827614this has been said time and time before but Garry went absolutely over his head with this and adopted the thinking that if Roblox community created everything themselves then his own community will do the same, now you can see why he is absolutely delusional with this.
>>737825549being compared to roblox is an insult by itselfbeing compared to roblox AND called WORSE than it, is doubly so
Man, this really fucking sucks. I actually just wanted a game engine that I could fuck around with (that isn't roblox) and do gamejams with where I could iterate quickly without trying to convince randoms to download my exes.Now that I've seen the absolute diarrhea that has flooded the website I don't want to pay or even try this shit out for free anymore
>>737827787Isn't he really pissy and bratty in general too? I can only imagine the blogposts he's going to make about the reception.
I wish Facepunch a swift and successful bankruptcy.
>>737827787Garry might have been onto something a decade ago. It's way too late now.People who want a game platform have fortnite and Roblox People who don't want to be screwed learned actual gamedevItch.io helped deliver cheap/free online gamesThere are too many avenues for the average user to say "I don't need sandbox, I got all this other shit"
>>737827490damn i guess every source online is wrong when it said it started as a css mod called terror strike because this one retard on /v/ thinks differently.
>>737827846yeah lol, would also explain all his past retarded choices related to Garry's mod
>>737827787at least roblox hosts the servers for you.seems in this s&box you need to host yourself yet still abide by his sjw thoughtcrime doctrine.
>>737827815you could unironically try fortnite UEFN
>>737827482all RP servers are trash at this point because the playerbase is too underage and third world. serious RP servers used to be generally a higher caliber of players because you had to actually be able to form coherent thought and translate that into real game actions, it played more like DnD. "roleplay" servers now are just 12 year olds with 200 addons using the game as a chatroom
>50% nowgarrybros... can anyone save us?
>>737827846Bratty Garry... needs correction...
>>737827949Wait so this shit isn't even using P2P or steam SDR? lmao what the fuck is that retard doing
oh wow, who could see that coming?Garry is laughing all the way to the bank btw
>>737827907condition zero isnt css my retarded friend
>>737827192>Play Gmod99% roleplay fags>Play S&BoxPaid roblox
garry was already rich, he has no loss condition. only we can lose.
>>737827331>i just don't understand how shills can even attempt to defend it,Because they can make money from selling skins on the market
>>737827583>food analogyfuck off, jeet
>see a bunch of jewtubers promoting this as game changing, the best way to use source 2>its a complete shitshowlmao
>>737822459BO DO TANGA TRZEBA DWOJGA
Imagine Valve backtracks their support for this turd.
>>737828064his loss condition is him getting a massive ego check
>>737828125pretty impressive he is so limber
>>737827590>extremely poorly modeled, textured, and lit, extra-wide psuedo-lego character model.SOUL
>>737828025>nobody is buying the game>already has mixed reviews>sunk hundreds of thousands into his dev payout programyou're retarded. not only are you a tranny AND a pedophile, you don't even know what the image you posted is from. kill yourself. ideally before garry does, you don't deserve to see him at his most entertaining.
>>737828142they should
>>737827961lmao gmod rp players really think this
>>737828142I'm surprised they've held out this long.
>>737828130>the best way to use source 2it's extremely grim but it might genuinely be, considering valve let him release this instead of working on a proper sdk release + enviroment themselves, this is basically the substitute.
>>737828142I wonder if valve is pissed that they'll actually have to release their own SDK if they want people to use source 2 now
>>737828142That is probably a real possibility if Garry doesn't get his act together, otherwise he is single singlehandedly going to tarnish Source 2s reputation before it even gets it's first flagship title release
Does this have LUA support? A huge part of the appeal of Gmod was that even kids could use it, I don't think anyone is chomping at the bit for C#
>>737828227this was between 2009-2011 and you were probably in diapers at that time so it's not like you would have any idea what i'm talking about, it was a completely different playerbase than what it is now
>>737828187god this is so much better than the hideous sausage man..
>>737826565>aspercentboxhuh?
>>737828287Is there a Source 2 splash screen? Otherwise it doesn't matter.
>>737827961I remember those HL2RP servers where you would get banned for bunnyhopping
>>737827964I'm sure he can afford some part of New Delhi to bump it back up
>>737818851So from I'm reading in the reviews, the game is a mess. It's a platform, a marketplace, a sandbox and an engine all at once without doing any of those things very well while running like dogshit. Trying to make games in it is like using Source 2 and Unity at the same time but without the performance of Source 2 or the fully fledged features of Unity.I really don't know what Garry was thinking, but knowing him he probably wasn't thinking beyond "roblox make money, me make roblox".
>>737828359Yeah playing that serious real roleplaying like uhhh sitting on a bench waiting for the combine to tell you to move along.
>>737827398its pretty easy to make a sex avatar and goon for days
>>737828064His studio is hemorrhaging money.
>>737828508Guh...
why havent RPers just made a game that is just for RP that is extremely moddable?
>>737828142They honestly SHOULD cut their losses and polish up Steam Home for a flatscreen release.
kek
>>737827394>Copyright infringement and poor taste humor with a bunch of retards having a good timeThis is unironically why slopbox immediately disappointed me.
>>737828491it's not really a sandbox, you can't just hop into a map with your addons and fuck around like in gmod
>>737827614huh? facepunch is not the creator of ttt/darkrp
>>737828494>he never got to play any factionsBanned for 999999 hoursReason: minge
>>737828615>valve's new robloxwho is the fat ugly retarded *nd*an (redundant) who thought this was a valve game
>>737828491>while running like dogshitThe minimum and recommended specs for s&box were crazy last time I checked, especially when the direct competition is pretty well known to run well on cheap hardware. Unless the requirements were for the s&box devs rather than the players.
>>737828508Gold>>737828615Mold
>>737828674He's a paid shill so, he was probably paid to say as such
>>737828491>using Source 2 and Unity at the same time but without the performance of Source 2 or the fully fledged features of Unity.the worst part is that it wasn't. it was pretty fast and performant UNTIL facepunch decided they just needed the scene system and now it's bogged unity with source 2 guts.
>>737828205He already made bank from the market
>>737828125my god he do be hittin it
>>737828698Recommended specs are a Core i7-10700F, 2060 and 32GB RAM. That's not super crazy, but I still see complaints from people who have better specs.>>737828745Interesting. I have seen complaints about how shitty the scene system is in the reviews. I wonder who fucked that one up.
>>737828632No way that's real, that was the whole point of gmod, what's there to even do then besides the roblox copycats on the front page? Are there even dedicated servers or is it all centralized like roblox?
>>737828698>>73782881332 GB RAM + $20 compared to 8 GB RAM + $0
>>737828828>what's there to even do then besides the roblox copycats on the front pagewell you can search for "sandbox" and then choose from thousands of halfassed vanilla gmod clones
>confirmed they're making it F2P in two yearsso why would I even buy itif I wait for two years I get it for free and there's an actual selection of shit to play instead of day 1 AI slopchurn and darkRP clones
>>737824738this
>>737828865i feel bad for those of you who did not buy ram before the ai datacenters were built
>>737828125og tiktok material right here
>>737828698I've got 32gigs of ram and have crashed 6 times the last 3 days from running out of memory but at the same time the survivor clone uses about 5-6 gigs of memory, the game itself isn't really poorly optimized, it's all of the AI coded slop that barely fucking runs in the first place that is causing all of the troubles and I have no clue why Garry didn't put a stop to this shit before release since I and plenty of others warned him about how this was gonna fall flat on its face if he doesn't punish players for releasing unfinished and barely working shit
>>737828927>there's an actual selection of shit to playChat, does he know?
https://sbox.game/metrics/finance
>>737824996is that a fucking coin pusher game? the same thing online casinos have had for like 15 years at this point? is this the best there is?
>>737828813>32GB RAMFuckkkk im stuck with 8GB because of the AI bubble making prices too expensive
>>737829042jesus
>>737828494You need to be a certain kind of autist and embrace the narrative side where 95% of the appeal happens in the text box.>t. hl2rp autist
>>737829042grim
>>737828615Those retards are actually pushing this as a Valve product.
>>737825974Congrats, you're not a pedophile!
>>737829075im glad i bought up 64gb when i bought my pc a few years ago, figured i might as well cause it was cheap
>>737828865Why does every game made after 2010 look like shit but the spec requirements keep going up?
>>737829042>all in the red until (presumably) garry dumps a ton of money into it to look betterOH NONONONONONO
>>737824446Not that anon, but I do remember times where you could get a virus that'd straight up nuke your OS on Gmod 9. I think I even have some samples of viruses from that era, but not that one specifically.>>737825890Kek, underrated post.>>737828270Having Source 2 SDK without garry's "improvements" would be a dream come true.
>>737829093unironically requires an above average IQ which I now realize most people don't have
>>737829161jewvidea has to sell new cards
>>737829020This might be total telephone hearsay but I saw a youtube comment about how Garry said the AI problem is self-solving because players will ignore those games and better games will naturally overtake them
>>737824738I don't think people realize how a large part of what made gmod great, was because it was source and used source assets. Facepunch hasn't made anything fun or original, and no, rust is not fun or original
>>737829126Paid, to push it as a Valve product.Fucking nobody's heard of this shit and has a positive opinion of it.
>>737828654Yes, but surely they would note their success and make sure they are well polished installments either through the creators that originally made them, or curate it themselves. The facepunch team can't be that oblivious to their success to not come in with high quality curation like that
>>737829093Yeah you're supposed to grow out of it and lose that last 5% in a real roleplaying game
>>737829191that's their stance, yes.i'm not so sure. people listen to ai music on streaming
>>737829191yeah, just like how you can vote with your wallet to make a change
Why would i choose Source 2 over Unity or UE5?
Where can I find servers that cheap for a large amount of players? also valve costing 35k lul
>>737829191Can't tell if Garry is naive or malicious
>>737829327it's just for their backend and data, not player game server hosting
>>737829250how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
>>737829327>Where can I find servers that cheap for a large amount of players?it's cheap because gary doesn't host your shit for you like roblox, you're supposed to self host lmao.
>>737829191poor guy doesn't know about indians
>>737828674I see people every time Gmod is brought up that think it's a valve game, that's a huge contributing factor to sandbox not getting the license
>>737829191>the AI problem is self-solving because players will ignore those games and better games will naturally overtake themWhen has that EVER been the case? Is there a single precedent for this? Why would anyone think this on the modern internet?
>>737829195Yeah, it was fun, you had all these assetsyou could have had Alyx's assets as well but he didn't go that path.Gmod was fun because it also allowed you to use almost all source game's assets
>>737829328Malicious. This game is just cash grab
>>737829250>in a real roleplaying gameGo on
>>737829307Technically you aren't really even choosing Source 2 if you're developing for S&box.
>>737829191Yes, that is exactly what he has expressed in private as far as I know.I don't understand how anyone could think like that when anyone could just ask themselves "would I rather waste time sifting through shit, piss and puke in order to find one new gold coin or go somewhere else that has gold coins just laying in a box?"You could literally just look at what Valve has done in order to quell the shit tide of porn games and scam games while straight up saying that you need to disclose AI use in your game AND that if it's mostly made by AI then you can fuck right off with it. They've designed entire algorithms just to barely keep all the shit in the sewer where it belongs and even they straight up refuse to take AI "vibe coded" slop, full stop.
>>737827038Filtered. It's a great campaign. And it's 4+ hours long.
>>737829020>>737829191Jesus Christ. I swear Garry has a mental problem or something, dude stuck with his awful sausage people all these years despite nobody liking them. If he really wants the weinier models to be associated with vibe coded slop and FOMO-focused skin markets because it's easy money then that's his right, but s&box is not gonna take off as a platform or an engine if people only think of slop when they see it.
>>737825452Right place at the right time for Source 1.
>If 100 users play your game for 6 hours each you earn 1-5 dollarsThis platform will fund all of India
>>737829546True, Garry replaced everything.
>>737829635will be interesting to see how they balance this. i used to earn 500 bucks each month with just a few players each day
s&box being full of vibe coded AIslop yet being hailed as an indie darling AAA-destroyer is interesting, I thought indie devs hate AI
>>737829369>>737829381>not player game server hostingHoly shit that's grim.
>>737829635Do they take money out of their pocket to fund these?
>>737829191>and better gamesAnd what makes him think there will be better games?
>>737829689maybe this will clean up the steam store
>>737829706that would be insanely expensive for them, giving out high powered dedicated servers for each game
Garry is totally enamored with Timmy Tencent's attitude towards everything, orienting everything solely towards developers, "if we build it they will come" and all that. Guess he isn't up to date on the state of EGS right now. Goddamn moron.
>>737829191actually hilarious if true, players will ignore his game and happily play some ai big booba sloppa instead
>>737829789>ai big booba sloppa insteadthey won't because gary already banned porn and porn adjacent stuff from the platform.
>>737829582I mean I don't disagree with how good the silent hill campaigns are IF you know where the key items are otherwise you are just literally looping around a giant foggy map looking for a key to then backtrack again. Especially in Silent Hill: Otherside of Life. Genuine borefest when you have to look for keys and not progressing in that long campaign
>>737829752That'd be the only plus of this turd existing since it makes money passively.
>>737829832But gamblings fine, thats why we have at least 5 exact copies of fucking blackjack up on the site right now!
>>737829832>no nsfw contentIs Garry allergic to money or something?
>>737829789>players will ignore his game and happily play some ai big booba sloppa insteadYou mean jeets will bot ai slop which is what actually happens.
>>737829689I think the jewtube shills believe this is just teething troubles that will work itself out soon
>>737829762>Garry, in cahoots with Gaben, tries to make a shitty get rich quick scheme to rent-seek other people's work (just like Dota and CS hat trading)>seethes at Sweeney somehowWhat level of derangement is this?
>>737829954to be fair he's british so he would probably get arrested if his game had attractive women in it
>>737829832i mean they'll ignore the entire platform and go play some other ai slop vn on steam
>>737828615lol
>>737829954he wants it to be a roblox alternative so it has to be sanitized
>>737830014That explains it
>>737829914I believe it expects you to be at least somewhat familiar with the original game, otherwise yeah, it's a complete trainwreck. I played SH multiple times as a kid and we still spent like 7 hours beating this campaign. Still a great time, L4D gameplay is THAT good.
>>737829191Haven't people been using this shit for like 2 yearsWhere are the better games
Call me when Sampersandbox gives us CS: Danger Zone
>>7378301345 years, actually. gary-approved indie devs have had early access since 2021.the front page of games is what 5 years of s&box being an ecosystem gets you.
>>737822459forsen
>>737825549Anon... most of the kids that grew up on Roblox are nearly 15-20 years old now.WE'RE OLD, my man.
>>737830005You stopped reading the post at "Timmy" didn't you
>>737830341yeah lolfuck timmy gon do?
>>737830134>>737830198The real reason why there are so few good games is because of pic related and AI slop completely filling the library in the last 3ish months
>>737830134Its a matryoshka doll of fucked>have to effectively petition for access>Garry gives only as he sees fit>the engine/platform is nowhere near done(basic shit like splashing around in water would slow a game to a crawl)>sweeping changes being made every week or month that can and will break your project>Garry showing obvious favoritism to donothings who suck his cock and produce nothing>devs who would have made games decide "fuck this, I'll make my game in a real engine/Roblox/fortnites new creator engine">games can be exported, therefore anything of remarkable quality is no longer on the actual s&box platformWhat incentive exists to put your games on S&box
>>737830306>15-20i distinctly remember playing roblox as a kid and i remember one map that was supposed to be horror themed with some haunted house on a hill in a small square canyon type area with a hidden path underneath or something and another car building game where people would use the wheels as joints to make mechsi'm almost 30
>>737830376>The pic related
>>737830376>last few monthsit's been like this each time i logged onto the game multiple times in 2025,2024,2023,2022
But I don't want to do C# I want to do Lua
>>737830480When I got access to it months ago it was The shitty Minecraft clickerPizzaclicker"REALISTIC" racecars(see: not at all realistic)And a bunch of dead shootermodes
>>737830491What's the point of lua?
>>737830491Those Unity scandals happened and Garry got it in his head that S&box should be THE UNITY KILLER, but Godot and Unreal proved that Unitykids don't actually want a new better Unity, they want to bitch about Unity, pretend they're adults who can move away from being butt fucked, and then crawl back to unity.
>>737830379How did such a brazen lolcow make something as influential and amazing as gmod?
>>737830609it's braindead and disabled people can "code" in it.
>>737830609Its very easy to use, its why Pico8 and tic-80 despite being a niche community has HEAPS of games
>>737830609I haven't done any sort of coding shit in a while, but lua was basically java tier easy to fuck around with last time I fucked with it.Made some mods for that Pang Adventures game that came out a while ago since it's literally just all fucking lua code and it was simple as fuck to make some custom guns and stuff.
>>737830491What's Source 2 written in anyway? C++ I Imagine?
>>737830763Yeah, C++ (or C#, but that's unlikely).
>the sasauge models are fine because when they game releases everyone will just run around in other models anyway>every single lobby forsen boots into, no matter the game, is 100% sasuage models.G R I M
>>737830609It's based
>>737830763Core engine is C++ but the primary scripting language in Valve games is LUA
>>737830827there was a few that looked like they were using different ones, or maybe they just shrunk it down and recolored it and i couldn't tell
ok enough about the roblox mode, how is the engine for actual serious game development for making something completely original with distinct custom assets
>>737830864It's actually a unique coding language and statemachine that's similar to Lua, but isn't, because the LUA foundations are sort of buttholes about licensing and shit.
>>737818851why the fuck did valve even do this? why not just release the SDK instead of forcing us to go through this absolute chode of a person?
>>737830658can someone -please clarify- what parts of gmod garry actually made? considering all the models and sounds that everyone used were from the source games what did HE actually make?
>>737831020>How is this engine that pushing a paid shop for cosmetics about using entirely custom assets
>>737831090I'm not smart enough to speak on that but Alyx and Dota 2 both use what appears to LUA or at least close enough to LUA that you can call it LUA provided no lawyers are in the room with you
>>737818851Oh wait I thought it was a meme indie sandbox game, it's from the creator of Gmod? Lmao.
>>737831125The (old versions of) maps like Flatgrass and Construct, some of the original UI and maybe how the LUA game engine hooks into the Source engine (but that's not exactly clear it was 2005? and other people were working on actual development at that point)
>>737831103A. Garry oversold his technical prowessB. Noone at Valve wanted to do itB2: Everyone at Valve was busy working on Linux, VR, Hardware, CS gun stickersC. Everyone in house seems to be using Source2 just fine so a proper SDK doesn't really matter to them
*dabs on garry's retarded, soon to be homeless ass*
>>737830827they're honestly disgusting, like the close-ups of spongebob episodes where they get grossly detailed
>>737831253>B. Noone at Valve wanted to do it>B2: Everyone at Valve was busy working on Linux, VR, Hardware, CS gun stickersValve was presented an opportunity to be provided with another ecosystem where they make money off of other people's work like Dota and CS. Of fucking course they wanted it, stop sucking off Valve, this shit is all they do.
>>737819073people argue over if it's roblox or gmodit's none of them, just its own thingsource 2 with a unity wrapper because nobody in their right mind wants to do gameplay programming in C++ and ECS is a pain in the ass to work with.games suck right now because the engine was in constant dev with breaking changes every five seconds, hard to sit down and make actual architecture for quality shit when the API you're using can just randomly change every weekmain reason to use the engine is it makes networking a complete fucking joke to implement with native steamworks supportit's normally such a gigantic cunt to setup that valve had to make an entire game (spacewar) with source code + API examples to show people how to do it and people still fuck it up because it's so finicky.i think the engine will eventually gain traction based on this alone. networking is usually a massive time sink in game dev, and having something that handles it natively with grace and extreme ease of use is nice if you're into that kind of thing. i like making singleplayer games so it does nothing for me.me i'm just going to publish past the platform because i don't really care about it. might slap demos onto it instead of steam so i can earn money for less work>>737829689only retarded virtue signaling indie devs hate AIlazy ones use it for everything and insta take themselves out of the running for ever selling their games, reduces competitionsmart ones use it to make all of their programming faster and write editor tools>>737829020>>737829191that was possibly me. i was asking garry, but matt (lead developer) responded.basically their official stance is that they don't want people to not be able to use it at all, so where do they draw the line? any content? code? icons? sound? logos?AI is a part of game dev/software dev/tech overall for anyone who is taking it seriously. go to any game dev discord, they're all using it. ran out of characters but that's the state of it.
>>737818851This is kind of like roblox if it was for autistic manchildren
>>737831374yes but the point is that valve was no interested on doing it themselves so they thought this sucker would be good enough (WRONG)
>>737831447so just like roblox?
>>737831374>Valve wanted to do itAnd yet Steam Home which could easily be worked into such still sits abandoned and VR only with there only being the broken dreams of a Valve developer who didn't realize that only giving development tools to windows users would mean nobody would make jack shit for it.
>>737831374>stop sucking off ValveI didn't say any of that was necessarily good, Timmy...
>>737831103Valve is lazy
>>737831125physics gun (no it's not the same as the hl2 beta one), toolgun, original maps, lua interpreter for addons
>>737831408garry is actively trying to make source2 like unity, with 0 documentation for it, and forcing people to use itthe game is so dogshit right now and everyone is using the default sausages which are ugly as fuck to look at
>>737831243so he really just got lucky and was in the right place to offer a bunch of nerds a set of tools to make cool things using other people's stuff
>>737831583some of that stuff he stole from j-mod
>>737819030>Valve ever releasing a functional Source 2 SDKLet it go dude. They will never do that.
>>737831651Effectively. You have to remember back then there was very little in the Indie space. If you made a game on your own, you were practically a rockstar in gamedev, now any idiot can pump out a game, it's not special anymore, and therefore having these EZmode tools(funny enough s&box is not easy to work with) isn't as spectacular as it was back in the Gmod days
>DUDE IT'S GARRY'S MOD BUT IN SOURCE 2>in reality it just feels like playing a random unity game
>>737818851can you make porn game and release it on steam with it?
>>737831725yeah what people don't realize is that there's no source 2 sdk. they don't do that anymore like source 1 where you had a base engine, now they're just giant forks.
Thanks to that one anon that gave me a s&box code so I could check out the game and find out it was dogshit months before it released.At least I got to look at source 2 TF2 before it was taken down.
>>737831856>all the bloviating and bragging from facepunch about MUH HOTLOADING>game still hiccups and stutters whenever you load anything in
>>737831859Porn isn't allowed on s&box (there will be porn games anyway)
what compelled him to completely abandon the aesthetic of his previous beloved game? like why didn't he just make slightly more cartoony ripoffs of the citizens, does it have a physgun?
>>737831859only if it caters specifically to what garry likes, he frequently breaks his own rules and also censors things he doesn't like
>>737831891>>737831953I thought facepunch said you can release your game completely separated from s&box?
forsen
>>737818851>our spiritual successor to Garry's ModI thought he said this wasn't suppose to be like gmod? Like, many times over and in different ways?
>>737831621it was because of licensing fees apparentlyhe was bleeding money out the ass licensing source 2, they didn't just give him an SDK and say 'here you go buddy, now package and distribute it'it seems like they're trying to get away from having any source 2 code at all eventually so they stop getting raped by valve. if you look at their financial breakdowns, it's like 75k a month just to use the fractions of code they still have which is practically just the renderer. apparently it used to be even worseif you're mad about no source 2 sdk, blame fucking valve
>>737831940because he's british and every single british bloke i've seen online has serious authority issues and autistic hangups. a nation state of nannies who don't like it when they aren't in control
>>737822459Garry is a fucking hack
>>737831887>try to spawn in a model from the ugc workshop>game feels like it's trying to corrupt my OS
>>737831408AI is fine to help you build a framework, quickly iterate on test assets/code or learn how to code but if you rely on it like these "vibe coding" retards does then shit will start to break hard and often which is why so many of these obviously fully AI made games all run like complete ass, play like complete ass and look like complete ass. Garry should have put his foot down and at least said "No AI art, if you have to use it then at least make it look like it was made by a human and not a fucking robot"That and the library needs SOME standards, like the game being auto deleted within 24 hours of upload if it doesn't start, crashes constantly or runs like ass since that will reflect negatively on S&box as a whole from a consumers perspective.The library shouldn't be a half-assed public testbed, it should be a showroom of creativity first and foremost, which is the second reason why the devs should start banning AI slop since 90% of it are literally just clones of each other
>>737832017most of the positive reviews is people who spend thousands of hours making some slop and dont like that they arent going to get paid for it
>>737832114I'm not anti AI coding but I swear AI has actually gotten worse in coding in the last 6 months. Idk what the fuck they've done to the backend, but it's fucking awful now, it will spit out a 2+2=29
>>737832114there's 0 moderation being done, much like when the steam workshop introduced transactionsthere's going to be dozens of bootleg versions that are the same gamemode or whatever wrapped up in a different name or even the same fucking name but with electric boogaloo attatched
>>737832017>5000 hours>product received for freeGee, I wonder why his review is positive compared to everyone else's
>>737832214you can't just say that and leave out which model you're usingusage limits have however gone to shit in most providers
>>737832214microsoft recently switched github's free copilot to a smaller model to save money
>>737832114>from a consumers perspective.He doesn't care about that. Nothing in this "game" has been made with any end user in mind.
>>737831583The toolgun was modeled by a different guy, actually, not sure who did the code for it, maybe it was garry.
This entire game is just Garry's attempt at turning GMod into a pyramid scheme after failing to monetize GMod's massive success the first time aroundUnfortunately for Garry GMod was just a fluke
>>737832114i agree with you, it's just their stance on itthere's some stuff for standards on their website but it seriously needs to be in-engine and i have no idea why it isn'tyou can look at individual games in the library and see like a 'health' pie chart of the last time they were updated compared to api changes. testing each game every update manually to see if they start would be a massive amount of workthere's a github issue for running some local model for automatic filtration with user input parameters but it's old as fuck and i think they've got bigger issues atmwhy the fuck is there still no occlusion culling
>>737828287why did they give him full reign over source in the first place
>>737832389the code yes, garry didn't model the stuff. it was the pistol at first
>>737832168>>737832225Ubre is one of the biggest shillers for this shit. He's got a ton of money from facepunch in the past and is now working closely with them to get the export funcionality implemented or smth, even got an exclusive tour at facepunch HQ. They get pissy if you start asking questions about this tho, it's important that you continue to see him as an independent developer, not a paid shill.
>>737831985I want you to do some basic thinking about how you could have at all thought that would work.
>>737829126technically it is, the only way it could have ever been made is due to valve handing them source 2's SDK when no one else has it yet
Why are we mad? QRD?
>>737832461Gmod was a straight up phenomenon.Valve wanted Gmod2 without all the source1 jank, Garry turned it into a vanity project/MLM scheme
>>737832527you can, though? you can export an exe
>>737832562>Valve wanted Gmod2 without all the source1 jankActually, Garry's initial stint with this was porting gmod to unreal engine and trying to sell it (with half life 2 assets) as an Epic Game Store Exclusive
If you want to make games, Godot is still and will always be free
>>737832640free but shit from a developer's perspective
>>737832632garry is such a scumbag.
>>737830491then just use roblox. nobody is going to seriously be developing games for tr&box except for the people actively subsidized by garry to try and make the games page not look barren.
>>737829178it's in the green because they just released the game you retard
>>737832461>no occlusion cullingYou've got to be fucking kidding me, that is supposedly already IN Source 2 by default, did they just rip it out and forget to replace it with something?
What exactly does this do that garry's mod doesn't?
>>737832640>unity, godot and unreal all have thousands of free tutorials for retards to learn from as well as full documentation
>>737832527Literally from the website https://sbox.game/>Publishing>Coming soon: export and release your s&box games as standalone titles on Steam .>Completely free, no royalties, no strings. Your game, your name, your revenue .
>>737832770microtransactions
>>737832679no it's not
>>737829042>completely in the red until launch>will probably get assraped back into the red with refunds
>>737831940Because he's a talentless hack. Gmod was lightning in a bottle carried by the work valve had already done, he didn't even come up with the idea himself
>>737832770make garry moneybut the entire game is a scam, you know all those terrible steam communities that blacklist small time modders for no other reason than they weren't allowed to steal their work?yeah, that's the driving force behind this game and 90% of the positive reviews are from "developers" who sell FOMO skins that they artificially raise the price ofthere's also 0 moderation done on the platform so it's rife with AI, stolen assets, etc
>>737832831i tried out godot but couldn't stomach the node system, the absolute shitfest that is raycasting, and c# support is shit too
>>737832770this game doesn't have community servers and isn't fun.that'll be $20.
>>737832830But gmod servers were already trying to scam peopleoh wait it's so Garry can get his cut
>>737832887still better than the frankenstein corpse of source2 and it's unity parts
>>737832970absolutely not. hotloading alone and the large amount of debugging/inspector/editor customizability makes it much nicer to use
>"Yo dawg, heard you liked AI slop"
>5 second delay that precedes every prop spawning in>no clear way to make wheels spin or thrusters blow>dogshit camera sway in noclip>ragdolls have wonky awkward physics>physics in general seemingly worse than gmod, shit attached by rope just spins endlessly >seemingly random smattering of workshop models mixed in with base game stuff in spawn menu>no clear cut way to spawn weapons and you start out with fucking nothing but the physgun and toolgun>absolutely full of jank, got sent out of bounds after making a platform lifted by balloonsi could care less about the roblox lite bullshit, the fucking NAMESAKE gamemode of this shit does NOT work
>>737832740they ripped hammer out and made it a part of their editor which is actually a kino ideathe problem is it's still WIP and is missing a lot of features. lightmapping is also not supported, baked lighting barely works atm, it's why everything runs terribly because it's all fucking dynamic lights.i'm not sure source 2 natively supports it, maybe in the CS2 version, but HLA has vis which is basically manually set occlusion planes that also block lightingthese also haven't been ported over yetthe mapper is in the awkward middle child stage of being acceptable enough to function while not good enough to replace the tools its replacing. people have been railing on about this in their issues section for a while, and a couple devs have been allocated, but it's not enough, it should be every single dev they havescene mapper reaching feature parity with hammer and optimization should be #1 all hands on deck priority imo
>>737833051they thought they were going to make thousands LMAO
>>737833032>hotloadingoh shit guys, garry's here, lmao>stutters for a solid 4 seconds after an NPC spawns>crashes after failing to play a sound>relaunch to see frontpage full of AI-slop that won't be moderated>go play garry's mod>remember garry silently blacklisted a ton of gamemodes, maps, and mods
>>737833108use C menu on wheels/thrustersphysics are much better, doesn't shit the bed if you make a pile of barrelsweapons are under entities
>>737833131>they ripped hammer out and made it a part of their editor which is actually a kino ideaHaving an in game map editor like portal 2 is a good idea.Completely destroying the tool and making the in game map editor the ONLY option is a fucking terrible idea.
>>737828205>>737828025Maitetsu is based don't shittalk train lolis
Kojima in fucking SHAMBLES about to KILL HIMSELF as S&box outsells his shitty pedo game.
>>737833175if you've never used hotloading while developing something i'm sorry for you
>>737833175You forgot>Open up server browser>90 different renames of Dark RP with botted players and spoofed servers>Any actual game modes are dead or bring your own niggas
>>737833213>use C menu on wheels/thrustersi eventually did, i love that not only can you not just bind any key to activate the thrusters (it has to be a pre-mapped key already being used because ?????) but it also just flat out didn't work
>>737833131>No hammer editor 2>Instead we have a shitty and half finished clone of it to play withWelp, guess I'm going back to making maps for CS2 then
>>737833323i have barely played sandbox so i can't really comment on it, but yeah that menu sucks, can't even press a key to set it>>737833343hammer 2 is still shipped with sbox
>>737833343yeah cs2 editor is going to be leagues better for a while, if it ever reaches feature parity at allpeople seem to think that all source 2 hammer is the same, it's nothammer tool quality varies game by game, s&box only had access to HLA hammer which has a completely different feature-set to CS2 hammerHLA hammer -> s&box was also only one version of HLA hammer, any updates it received were not given to them by valve so they had outdated code to work with, it's why they're deprecating itthey're having to maintain valve's own buggy degrading tools and try and build an engine at the same time, for all the faults of s&box and garry this is the one thing i don't blame them for
>>737833405i just dont fucking understand why they didnt just copy paste the ui from gmod. its already insanely derivative but they felt the need to move/change so much random qol shit it makes no FUCKING SENSE
>>737833496this, hammer is a buggy piece of shit that crashes all the time. they're making good progress with scene mapping, it just needs optimisation and culling
>the engoodening of s&box
>>737833786Garry can't even do the engoodening angle since the base game lacks any sort of substance for people to ignore the low quality of with the game being made functional 5 years later
>>737833786>the enshittening of everything garry newman touches
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