There is literally no other game on earth like Dawn of War 2 and it pisses me off.It isn't an rts. You control multiple units in real time but they aren't expendable like an rts nor is it a crpg or a stealth game like other RTT games.
>>737822905I just want a Dawn of War that combines DoW1 basebuilding with the "feel" of DoW2.
>>737822905>no other game on earth like Dawn of War 2CoH of Heroes 1, 2 and 3.Dota>You control multiple units in real time but they aren't expendableBattle RealmsWarcraft 3
>>737822905DoW1 = CoH 1DoW2 = CoH 2DoW3. CoH3.DoW4 = ??????Profit
why does nobody make a standalone hero defense/last stand type game instead of moba, it wouldn’t even be much work
>>737823395>>737823721It has base building and units that die and get replaced
>>737822905>You control multiple units in real time but they aren't expendable like an rts nor is it a crpg or a stealth game like other RTT games.Aliens Dark Descent.Terminator Dark Fate Defiance. But it's more realistic rather than arcadey like DoW2 and on a much bigger scale.
>>737823023This is what everyone wanted for DoW3 and they fucked us in the ass.
>>737823023What do you mean by 'feel'?The campaign structure and presentation?Because I agree, that sounds dope as hell.
>>737822905It's literally a moba.
>>737822905There's plenty of other games JUST like that, and even one in the same universe. OP is retarded.
>>737828391Nuh uh
>>737822905Holy FUCK eat shit and DIE, paid shillI will NOT play Dawn Of War 4! I will NEVER pay for nu Warhammer full of retarded shit wrote by TRANNIES, no matter how many inorganic DoW threads you keep creating, nigger.
>>737828193> A moba where you don't have to deal with other playersThis is a golden idea.One of you better be writing this down.
>>737828193No it’s not retard, it’s only very loosely inspired by elements of DOTA that already were a thing in other games.
>>737828972Every moba has bot matches.
>>737822905It's basically the warhammer version of Commandos.
>>737822905Codename panzers phase 1 and 2You can lose a unit and replace it with a new one in between mission, but the fresh unit starts from 0 XP so you better keep those veteran units alive.
>>737828391Name 1
Try Aliens Dark Descent it's very similar it just trades RPG elements for some nu x-com like base building.
>>737829125Yes, it is, retard.Everything in DoW2 depends on your hero pick, and you can only make like 5 units before reaching the pop cap. Even DoW3 with is more of a traditional RTS than DoW2.
>>737828972>a mod of warcraft 3 that is modded to play like warcraft 3.
>>737829259Commandos is based on stealth so you don't have to quickly switch back and forth between characters
>>737829401Dota doesn't let me control 4 different units at once
>>737829518Yes, it does.
DoW1 had never made me fear SM Scouts but damn, DoW2 Scout squads were absolute MENACES.
>>737829259If I didn’t already own it I’d buy it after reading that.
>>737829779Who?
>>737829903Meepo (4-5)Visage (3-4)Brewmaster (3-4)Chen (A lot)A couple more with 2-3 units under their control
>>737829903Meepo, Enchantress, Chen, Warlock, Brewmaster, Nature's Prophet, Lycan, Visage.Also equip them with Helm of the Dominator and Necronomicon and you have more units than are allowed in DoW2.
>>7378294012 is an RTT, 3 is a half baked piece of shit
>>737830128Never fails to amaze how a half baked piece of shit is still more fun and strategical than a braindead watered down moba-lite. It even came with Last Stand if you feel like 2+ units are too hard to control.
>>737830126They removed Necronomicon btw
>>737829445The serpent consumes its own tail.
>>737822905Bro your Company of Heroes?!?
anyone got that ridiculous image of the ultramarine lifting the terrified CSM chosen over his head? been trying to find it
>>737822905dow2 player when they discover spell force
>>737823023I wish we had just gotten a Dawn of War 2: 2. I want something like Commandos but with more combat. Squad based tactics. Give it some actual level and scenario design instead of what vanilla DoW2 had. And Jesus Christ balance the weapons better rather than strict upgrades. I have no idea how it would work in lore, but I want to spec Avitus for melee combat!
>>737832204spell force is also kino
>>737829473What's funny is that DoW2 essentially becomes a stealth game in the hardest difficulty because Cyrus the designated stealth unit has to carry the entire campaign off his back with how fast enemies melt your units in direct combat.
>>737833587The HP and damage bloat on enemies is absurd. I don’t know how anyone is supposed to use Thaddeus when he just dies the moment he lands. You can taunt and tank with Tarkus, but you might as well run Cyrus at that point anyway so you can snipe the high priority targets like Warlocks or Synapse creatures.
>>737830053>MeepoNot different heroesAll the rest are temporarily controlledOnly Druid counts
>>737834369The only way you can use Thaddeus is by abusing his cooldown removal buff and stun on jump/teleport to stunlock enemies with chain teleports so your other units can mop them up, which also works on the final boss, but it's not even that good and it's super lategame with all the points he needs.
>>737822905>There is literally no other game on earth like Dawn of War 2Wrong.
>>737822905Does anyone remember Granado Espada?
>>737823023>DoW1 basebuildingIT IS TRASHwhy do people want one of the WORST parts of DoW 1 to be taken over???
>>737835041strong & powerful
>>737835135Because it's the best part and you're a retardI only say this because I love turtling for compstomps, fuck pvp
>>737835135improve it then don’t remove it, having a single HQ was a huge style downgrade and lelic eventually admitted they were wrong about buildings
>>737822905this game was kino even that co-op mode where you fight waves of enemies
>>737835335I almost started to seriously write down why you are a stupidfuck for thinking basebuilding is the best in DoW1, but you spared me the effort by admitting to be a simpleton fuckwit in the spoilerthere are also better games for turtling compstomp faggotry>>737835561that's fairbut I don't think base building would've fit the smaller scale battles the game presented
>>737822905Aren't there several rts games with missions where you control a few units and can't make more? Advanced wars had several levels like that. Typical 40kid nonsense.
>>737835773yea, loads have levels/missions like that. starcraft 1 & 2, warcraft 1, 2 and 3. Even age of empires and c&c has them from what I remember.
>>737834369I dropped primarch difficulty because I basically had to cheese almost my entire way through most missions from the point where Tyranids appeared and it was straight up not fun or satisfying at all
>>737834816Thaddeus is pretty good against Eldar and literally only them. But on highest difficulty he just dies too fast to use him at all
>>737836487primarch difficulty is funny because brightlances one shot everything and guardians run into melee to beat your tacs to death
>>737835773>>737836075The problem when classic RTS games do that is that you are just left with half of a game since they normally don't have very detailed combat mechanics so the player can divide his attention between tending to his base and combat, true tactical games have more in depth combat mechanics and interactions with the terrain
>>737835773Every RTS worth their salt has a couple missions like that RA1 and KKND Krossfire 1/2 are the hardest, with Starcraft and Warcraft there's always healing/repair involved with a bunch of units always waiting to get rescued somewhere
>>737828193DoW2 isn't a moba, but DoW3 is>>737822905campaign is diabloclone hack'n'slash, but you control 4 unitsmultiplayer is RTT
>>737838479An ASSFAGGOTS mode in DoW3 wouldn't have been a terrible idea, at most ignored and forgotten, if it were just one of many game modes and not the only one at launch, coupled with grindy elite unlocks and terrible balance.
I don't play PvP so I liked DoW2 a lot more. It really was one of a kind.
>>737837504still need to play myth.
>>737839697Just do it, there's a mod that ports myth 1 into myth 2, so you can just get myth 2 which has a better engine, it's surprisingly smooth on modern systems, no issues with resolution or nothing at all and the controls are great, it has WASD camera control by default for example and the gameplay is pretty intuitive, it's a very playable game that doesn't feel dated at all outside the unit sprites.
>>737822905It feels like Kill Team to first one's Tabletop
>>737840432what, it feels more like the Tabletop than the first one
>>737828193I would tell you "You are the dumbest gorilla nigger" but you get this pretty often already
>>737828193No that was DoW 3, DoW 2 was a squad based ARPG
>>737835041>Age of SmegmarWhen will GW kill this already
In a classic RTS the melee units are your generic meat shield that you send in front of the formation while the archers stay behind shooting, not in Myth.If you just attack move your units into the enemy you are dead, the archers will hit the melee unit in the back damaging them, the basic enemies will stun and kill your weakened units and the dwarfs will blow everyone up.Instead the melee units are a mobile tactical reserve, your archers weaken the enemies, the dwards thin their numbers by blowing some of them up, the melee units will finish off the straggles that get too close.
>>737842586>DoW 2 was a squad based ARPG>ARPGIn singleplayerPeople willingly ignorant of the rest of the game why RTS will never be good again
>>737822905Z?
>>737829401>like 5 units before reaching the pop cap.This is by design like in coh so that one player doesnt snowbal their way to victory early. The main issue with the game is how resources are gained in hwich theires only one so the game is designed for the player winning not to be able to take control of the entire map the moment they win an engagement. Also if i remember in dow 2 the bases have defencese to prevent rushes too
>>737822905DoW2 sucked ass It lacks content, runs like ass, plays like ass and crashes because of that audio bug, nobody liked playing it outside the campaign, and it is devoid of any challenge or tacticsGlad its gone never to return
>>737844812You have second hand opinions and disinformationsEmbarasing
>>737844812I still see it be played, albeit through Elite Mod.I loved playing Chaos in multiplayer. People underestimate the Bloodlust global on the Chaos Lord so much.
>>737844439>In singleplayerYes, the good part of the game
>>737822905If you liked DoW2, a primitive version of CoH, then you should really enjoy CoH1-3, or at least 1. Don't fall for Men of War or Iron Harvest, superficially similar at best.>>7378301932 was the half-baked watered down game (in MP), horrid launch and still bad by Ret, but Elite mod made it playable.3 is the braindead dogshit, as hideous to play as it is to look at and listen to.
>>737822905Based DoW 2 enjoyer. Its a really fun game.
I hear you OP. Where the fuck are our DoW2 style of games and BiA Hell's highway type of games.. wtf really..
>>737844954Your mom is second and third hand
>>737823023This is what most people want. But...Having gone back to DoW1 for the remaster, base building in that game fucking sucks. It's so bad. I don't understand how I enjoyed it as a kid. As for DoW2 i still play it sometimes. It has aged extremely well. Some of the VFX look better than modern stuff.
