>>737826619
the boss past the dragon guarding the bridge at the beginning filtered me HARD
i'm not finna run the gauntlet every time, fuck that

>>737826852
you can find an npc that helps you fight that boss

>>737826975
the problem is not the boss, the problem is the route to him

>>737826619
That's what happens when a game is confined to snoystation. Guarantee more people would care about it if it were more widely available

>>737827147
I thought it was supposed to get a PC port eventually anyway

>>737826619
>Inferior sequel
Probably in a different timeline anon, there's only two good levels in DeS

demons souls was the only game i played on my ps5 before i eventually sold it. It was fun.

>>737826619
the reason it's forgotten is because it's mediocre
dark souls did what demon's souls attempted but better in almost every regard

>>737828251
Yeah man, lost izalith is really good, blighttown totally not an inferior ripoff

>>737828307
>ripoff
both are made by the same company lmao

>>737826619
Demon's Souls is Dark Souls beta and after this From just decided to remake same game for 10 times.
It's okay game I suppose but at this point you don't really miss anything if you never played Demon's Souls.

>>737827046
The fact that the gate where you help Ostrava is not a shortcut you can unlock is criminal

>>737828694
>after this From just decided to remake same game for 10 times
they've been making the same game since kings field, they only changed the game from 1st perspective to 3rd

>>737826619
we need another one with world and character tendency mechanics

>>737828694
Trust me you miss out a lot, you wouldn't be spouting this diarrhea had you played it, so many things in Dark Souls remain at surface non-explored

>>737828815
but that shit was the worst part of the game

>>737826619
>inferior sequel
>chews on 100 grass
mmm so difficult so good
>sips 20 full heals
mmmmmm no other game challenges me like thiis

>>737826619
i dropped this game because the runback seems really obnoxious, even if i didn't die all that much

>>737828946
I'm replaying the original DeS on PC right now and it's literally just a linear DaS with worse combat and less variety

Actually the biggest reason DeS is onjectively mediocre is because of the world tendency/soul mechanic
And because you break out the usual "use the ring" or "git gud" bullshit let me tell you a reason why the soul mechanic is dogshit from a perspective that I don't think was ever talked about: your character makes no noise when in soul mode
The sound your character makes in DaS when simply walking, the clinking of plates, the rustling of chain or just even the different footsteps depending on the surface you're walking on when you're wearing leather/cloth is not something you'd notice but is a massive boost for immersion and it's absence is deafening
Meanwhile in DeS you just walk around completely silent like a fucking ghost, makes the game seem amateurish and lazy

>>737828807
they're not even remotely close to the same game. kings field is a fucking walking simulator with (extremely) light combat elements.

>>737826619
You remember the part in dark souls where you unlocked the first shortcut in undead burg where you kick the ladder down to the first bonfire?

That part alone is better than the entirety of demons' souls.

>>737829317
>walking simulator with (extremely) light combat elements
it's called a dungeon crawler you adhd-ridden zoomer pest

>>737829242
it literally has the same exact combat as dark souls, what the fuck are you smoking

>>737828946
I did play it in 2011 and it was novel. I wouldn't guzzle about it like people do it on 4chan. Actually every single From Software game is bit like that. They are quite nice in their own manner but would I post about them every day for years? No way.

>>737829380
I'll let you in on a secret, that part is a complete ripoff of the first level in boletaria with the same elevator even and the same mobs copy pasted

>>737829404
dungeon crawlers have way weaker puzzles, way weaker environments and much greater emphasis on the combat

>>737829317
Have you played Dark Souls 1?

>>737826619
I've never owned a Sony console, so this basically doesn't exist to me.

>>737829540
i've played every fromsoft game that has an english translation
you're out of your mind if you think kings field is even remotely close to a souls game

>>737829461
Nexus is shit, outdated game design. All the shortcuts in dark souls actually matter.

>>737829565
it's super easy to emulate it and if you like the series than it's worth playing it for the novelty of it but don't expect anything mindblowing

Any reason why they didn't port it to PC? sony ported each of their movie game turds, why didn't they port DeS post 2020?

>>737829621
>i LOVE open world slop

>>737826619
The remake isn’t in unreal engine

>it's bad because of le sound
Ds1 dicksuckers are so pathetic it's unreal

>>737829461
not a single part of boletaria 1-1 and undead burg is exactly the same you retarded shill

>>737829650
because they wanted to use the remake to drive console sales. same story with bloodborne. they're not retarded and know how popular fromsoft games are.
why do you think nintendo was clamoring to get their own fromsoft exclusive? even though duskbloods is a horrendous mismatch for the switch audience, it doesn't matter, they just want that shit because it will move a fuckton of units.

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Demon's souls was just a necessary stepping stone to ultimate greatness. A cute little proof of concept beta that almost plays like a tech demo by today's standards.

>>737829650
Because it’s an actual good game. Most of what they ported was for desperate money searching for those insanely high budgeted movie games that got bundled with consoles.

>>737826619
>three good levels
>almost every boss is a weird gimmick fight that isn't fun after the first playthrough if they were fun the first time
>drop rates
>world tendency
it was my first souls game, and it was very special to me, but it's clearly a prototype for what was supposed to be a better game, and that better game was Dark Souls. Everything since Demon's Souls has been an improvement.

>>737829741
TRVKE

>>737829723
lmao nobody i've talked to who doesn't already own a switch would buy one for duskbloods even if they would be otherwise interested in the game
that shit's going to be the biggest flop in fromsoft's history

>>737829661
If you consider ds1 to be open world you're brain damaged. Having all the dungeons on a small map be interconnected does a lot for immersion. Everyone remembers being blown away by the short cuts. DeS had no such wow moments.

>>737829707
You never played it, the gate opening ambush in Boletaria palace was moved to the lower undead burg, the identical enemies, the undead soldiers and warriors that have identical scripting to Dreglings and Boletarian soldiers with different paint

>>737829979
i'm playing it right now you fucking retard and yes, both are very similar in both look and enemies the claim of
>the same elevator even and the same mobs copy pasted
is simply not true
if it is, then post fucking pictures or you're talking out of your ass

>>737829831
Every ''gimmick'' boss in DeS was copypasted in ds1 you lying faggot, you never played the game, bed of chaos is copypasted from the dragon in the mine, the gargoyles? ripoffs of the maneater bosses, Iron golem? an inferior copy of the tower knight

>>737826619
>inferior sequel
Yeah, I remember when I was an underage contrarian too.

>>737829850
i'm fully aware and agree. by "units" i don't mean more people will by the switch 2, i mean duskbloods itself will sell a shitload, and it will also dominate the press cycle. this itself will translate to a marginal increase in switches being sold, and also serve as a siren song for devs to ship games on the switch "hey check out how much duskbloods sold!"
if that sounds retarded, it's because it is, but that's the world we live in today.

>>737826619
It really did have a hard life. Dark Souls 1 is utter garbage by comparison.

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I play it daily, shitcunt.

>>737830216
Except two of those three are actuall way better in DaS (and both Dragon God and Bed of Chaos is whatever)

>>737830216
so you're saying I have no reason at all to play DeS

>>737830286
and to be clear on this "shitloads" is relative. compared to armored core 6, it won't sell very much at all. but that won't stop it from making a big splash in the media, which is basically the whole point.

you should consider the fact that the game is focused on PvP a very intentional choice, even if it's a mismatch for the nintendo audience. that choice was made because it massively cuts down on the amount of time and effort they have to spend on the game, since they have way less PvE to carefully tune and build (which eats up the vast majority of dev time for them, next to asset creation)

>>737829242
>He doesn't know a dead/hollow character moves quietly

>>737830359
Tower knight is leagues superior to the iron golem and this goes for every other boss ds1 rips from

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>>737829175
>i dropped this game because the runback seems really obnoxious, even if i didn't die all that much
Based those DeS faggots are gonna convince how running back to Allant is a good thing but it's inherently worse compared to that dragon in crystal caves because Allant is harder

>>737826619
rpcs3 runs it like shit otherwise i'd be playing it right now

>>737830720
you are neither dead or hollow in DeS retard

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>here is that superior boss design i was telling you about

>>737826619
I'm a Black guy from boston and demons souls (og) is my favorite souls game

>>737830926
oooooooohooooooooooooaaooooooo

>>737828712
it's definitely not even among the worst run back in the series. You only gotta run on the bridge twice to avoid the dragon fire you can run the rest of the way under the bridge.

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>>737828251

>>737826619
>the father of all souls games
Why do you zoomers act like fromsoft didn't make 62 whole fucking games before this one

>>737830784
Specs? It runs even worse on the PS3 too, and that's what you get by default in RPCS3, so you should get the 60FPS patch. Steam Deck runs it fine.
If you have input lag, turn off the audio buffering in the config. That shit was obnoxious.

mf's like the op would argue that the old monk is unironically a good boss fight lmao

>>737830796
If you die you have a blue aura and make no noise

>>737831072
dark souls 1 is so fucking ugly
overrated pile of shit

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>oh yeah this is better than Demons Souls let me tell yeah...

>>737826619
I genuinely believe DaS 1 would get revaluated into a mediocre 7/10 game if DeS is released on PC, only issue is it's gatekept by the ps3

>>737831153
It's a silly and novel boss fight
And I for one enjoyed slamming my sword into a wall, barring people from entering the fog gate so yes you can unironically have a novel form of fun, as janky as it is

>>737831250
>only issue is it's gatekept by the ps3
It really isn't

>>737831225
that certainly looks better than what i saw in demon souls yeah
in demon souls enemies just use the same 1 or 2 attacks over and over again and never react to you

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What made Demons Souls so good is that you really had to think about the bosses. No press the roll button at the right time here. Your intelligence means more than your reflexes. If you're not smart, you're not beating this game. Sorry.

>>737831315
It is, only a strong tight niche emulates, the cattle doesn't

>>737831225
This looks worse than anything in demons souls

>>737831362
why is warding even in the game?

>>737831362
>Have to climb to reach adjudicator's weak spot
>Stormking's gimmick
>Fuckin with the blind ghost
You might be right, beats 200 hours of dodging an elden pattern

>>737831472
it gives you more defense against physical attacks, read the spell descriptions anon

>>737831362
have a (you) for shit bait

>>737831225
wow look at the enemy ai, so smart

>>737831424
>Cant decipher satire
>>737831472
Would you have unironically preferred 10 different flavors of damage spell that randomly suck against enemies

>>737831250
Then explain why this fanbase absolutely glazes bloodborne.

>>737831615
BB got emulated and everyone says it's shit

>>737831615
Because it earned it, Bloodborne doesn't ripoff DeS and does it's own thing

>>737831514
>>737831584
why is a 70% physical damage reduction spell in the game where most enemies use physical damage?

>>737831615
it's the perfect souls for posers + ps4 gatekeeping. It's has the easiest combat, lots of vials and can kill any boss why a few very easy to land parries and the map layout is braindead

>>737831823
>it's the perfect souls for posers
no that's Demon's Souls

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>>737831694
and yet DeS remains fucking mid until the test of time, this isn't slander like RE1 when that game had a VERY good game for the franchise, DeS isn't in that category, it's just ok

>>737831774
because the idea would be that mages do not wear armor and therefore have no passive physical defense, and would have to rely on spell upkeep for it
in reality myazaki is a hack who can't design a game with specific playstyles so everyone will just to the most optimal spellsword archetype who can do anything

>>737831615
because rollslop is fun
demon souls isn't rollslop
it was an unintended method of play in dark souls 1, fromsoft saw that and thought it was cool so the A-team incorporated it into bloodborne as a core part of the game's design

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I hope ds1 gets a remake by bluepoint just so they can feel DeS fans' pain

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>>737826619
>the father of all souls games
Excuse you

>>737831990
troonpoint got killed nigga

>>737831990
bad news for you anon

>>737831990
Some actual good news, sony shut down blue point earlier this year.

>>737831948
>gwynn
>S
Yeah man the final boss that can be parried and cheesed is an s-tier, i can't take you dishonest posers seriously

>>737831990
>bluepoint
Anon...

And anyway DaS1fags already pissed their pants over the remaster

>>737832013
>Kings Field US

>>737831990
>bluepoint gets shutdown before they could demake dark souls
Demon's souls fans can't stop losing. The game's name will forever be tainted by the bluepoint demake.

>>737832162
dark souls got the demaster though so it's not completely unscathed

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>>737832075
More for the journey than anything else and the music is pure kino. It's the feels when you visit his hollowed you soulless husk of a human being,

>>737826619
>inferior sequel
yeah whatever you say buddy

>>737832151
Begone autismo

>>737832197
The only thing I remember from the remaster controversy is that the bonfire flames look different.

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It was a good-ass game.

>>737831990
the only bad thing here is they seem to have given the fat guy shoulder pads for no reason

>>737832302
not just bonfires, pretty much every particle effect (fires/flames, smoke, fog gates, buff indicators etc) look worse

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>>737832362
>1
Kino
>4
It was wtf kinda moment but pure kino
>Everything else
dogshit the prison was bloated as hell, valley of defilement is just the "swamp" level of lost izalith, the mines were forgettable and kinda boring

>>737831990
>all the good guys skin tones are a shade darker
>all the bad guys are whiter
hmmm.. HMMM I say HMMMMMMMMM

>>737832362
did uncs really think semen souls was hard?

>>737828183
Bloodborne sucks

>>737832362
2-2 and 5-1 are the ones i struggled with A LOT

>>737832582
why?

>>737832362
i'm glad these rage face images died off

>>737832587
2-2 was p easy for me as i used the jump down shortcut and did the level backwards before realizing what was the way to the boss

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>>737832587
Because of Flamefucker?

>>737832682
mostly because of muh lovecraftian tentacle porn
mogged by horizon unironically

>>737832937
>tranime

>>737832937
I played without guides and didn't spot the shortcut

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>he thinks demons souls is about the bosses

>>737826619
>father
That would be King's Field, also from From Software

>>737832013
>>737833067
kings field plays nothing like a souls game, stop parroting eceleb opinions

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>>737833016
That's fair. The entire level is nice but easily becomes a drag after multiple times. The shortcut is cool and helps to show depth of the level as well.

>>737832682
no weapons. poor boss design. blood vials. stupid fedora aesthetic. Is it not obvious?

>>737832362
>DeS was contemporary with rageface
It's really that old, huh...

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>>737834148
came out in 2009

>>737833264
I rather have 26 well designed weapons than over a hundred copy pasted ones

>>737832506
this board genuinely thought DeS and DS1 were the hardest games ever made

>>737826619
I like Demon's Souls but Dark Souls is not inferior to it, shame we never got a full game the quality of dark souls first 2/3rds

>>737833218
Miyazaki is the one who told us that Demon's Souls was inspired by King's Field you fucking idiot
>"King's Field was the beginning of the Demon's Souls project; I wouldn't go as far as to say that we had King's Field in mind while we were making Demon's Souls, but of course I think its world probably formed one of the bases [for the newer game]. However, if you're asking if it's a 'successor', the answer is no. Of course there are parts of the game that are inspired by King's Field but we were very much aware that we wanted to make a new title with Demon's Souls."
https://www.eurogamer.net/souls-survivor?page=2

>>737829242
world tendency is a bit shit, and the soul form/body form stuff has a big part to play in world tendency being shit but I don't particularly mind the sound design around being in soul form. burning a bunch of human forms to get to black WT however is pretty dogshit, and potentially a waste of resources if you were connected to the online because server WT was almost always pure white

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>>737834312
I genuinely believe that it's impossible to say this unless you didn't play DeS or you say a gameplay video of it on youtube, Maiden astraea alone genuinely makes ds1 look like a piece of shit in comparison, just emulate the game, you don't have to be a poser

>>737833218
they are the exact same game but in third person

>>737832506
>semen souls
You're gay! :c

>>737834542
I played it on a real PS3 man, it's a fine game I just prefer the world design of dark souls more. That and I think WT sucks major ass, especially in the original with server WT

>>737834637
wrong, king's field does have not reactive defense mechanics like rolls and manual blocks. it is all positioning, all the time.

>>737834542
nta but both games are good. DeS and DaS do different things ie. full connected world and covenants vs contained areas and white/black tendenacy shenanigans. Estus and spell slots can be argued to be better game design than farming grass and spice. Citing one kino encounter isn't a strong argument.

>>737834363
nobody cares about what troonyazaki has to say

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>>737834964
The so called ''full connected world'' is window dressing to cover bad game design, you had vast and more intricate levels with great aura of scale that were replaced by half assed lame and small "interconnected" levels constantly using tubular design and danger from falling and punking player movement, the homeworld bone is a safenet to escape any form of survival situation and don't get me started on the bosses are complete inferior ripoffs man
>Pinwheel an inferior version of False Idol from DeS, soulless ripoff
>Towerknight shameless rippedoff and shoved into no risk fight were all you need is to bait him to kill himself
>Maiden astraea's area ripped off to serve as an asset flip for a spider that no one gives a shit about that has no lore or soul
>gwyn is an inferior ripoff of Allant except you grow to understand Allant at the end while the other is just mindless zombie dickhead
>Seath LMAO
>Bed of chaos part of the mediocre latter half of ds1
>Smough and the midget are the best thing in the game
>Gargoyles an inferior ripoff of the maneaters
Please explain to me why do all these points i mentioned get a pass and i am not even pointing all the ripoffs, i could write two more essays just on the NPC that are shamelessly stolen and made inferior like Sage Freke and Yurt

>>737834542
maiden zanzibartina is overrated as fuck

>>737828251

This. Preferring DeS is pure contrarianism frankly. Only advantages DeS have is that MiB is cute and it was the "original" (whatever that's worth). DaS is simply the better game and more fun to play.

You do not hate bluepoint enough

If you haven't played the KINOriginal Demon's Souls then you just don't understand the sheer soul levels and the wellspring and impetus of Fromsoftian kino

>>737835873
Ahh the red dragon in the bridge is also stolen from DeS, holy shit this soulless ripoff has genuinely nothing

>>737835873
>i-i-it's bad because it has things similar to DeS!

What a self-own. Holy shit.

>>737826619
DS2trannies are getting real annoying with their shitflinging towards better games.

Ds1 is well known to have a bad 2nd half, now to DeS fans who know the 1st half is just an asset flip makes the whole game just a turd

>>737826619
>>the father of all slop games

des-fags when they have to metagame the world tendency by repeatedly killing themselves and backtrack half the level because they reached their carrying capacity before farming more grass: yeah this is peak

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>>737832582
damn bloodborne lives rentfree in your pcfaggot head

>>737831362
>ds2nigger stealing the words of the man who anally raped his ass a decade ago again
You will be crying about Matt another ten years from now loser

>>737826619
if it's so good post webms of this "gameplay"

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Demon’s > DS1 > Bloodborne > ER > DS3 >>>>>>>>>>> DS2

Never played Sekiro

Demon's Souls has the best atmosphere in the entire series.

>>737829242
>Meanwhile in DeS you just walk around completely silent like a fucking ghost
Hmmm I wonder why that is.

>>737826619
This one man fatwa to shill Demon's Souls is admirable.

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There's never been a souls game that got everything right.

I see Demon's Souls as the game you play if you want more Dark Souls 1 as it's the closest experience.

>>737842417
Just because there's a reason for it doesn't make it good

>>737834542
is there anything as dark in the rest of the games as this? having to kill a black madonna figure who comes across as a dillusional saintly madonna figure, while she parasitically harvests souls around her was powerful.

>>737842669
>There's never been a souls game that got everything right.
really is a shame. a dark souls game with 1's world design that doesn't fall to shit and covenants that work and are interesting would be so nice.