>>737827791
Will it even be alive in 1 year from now?

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>>737827791
>Destiny is fantasishit pve with Marvel quipping characters and a huge IP
>Marathon is an hard sci-fi stoic design with existential themes and filters the normies

>>737828114
Destiny 2* FTFY

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>>737827861
>1 year from now
probably gonna die the next month

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>>737827861
Lol no

>>737827791
based, good taste

>>737827791
>cyberpunk is actually just purple + industrial
Wow

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Why did destiny 1 win and why did destiny 2 and marathon flop?
https://youtu.be/fNxYAoxu9Hc?si=dKiytgNrN1yar87_

>>737827791
Banger track

>>737827791
It's scifi but I wouldn't consider it cyberpunk, personally. Everything is too clean and organized. Cyberpunk is more chaotic and kitbashed and dystopia.

>>737827861
Depends on season 2's reception.

>>737828350
>>737828354
Irrelevant at this point.

>>737829005
>irrelevant
No, because there's definitely some threshold where matchmaking will take so long that normies won't tolerate it and will bail. That's the first death flag. The second death flag is the seasonal reset.

The only thing looming in the background is the x factor of how long Sony will tolerate supporting and funding this game that will never, ever make them a profit.

>>737828947
the fact people go this out of their way to mock the aesthetic and storytelling of marathon ironically proves proves how poignant it is.

>>737829605
>people make fun of it because it's good

>>737829005
>Depends on season 2's reception.
When ever "season 2" happens, why the fuck would anyone pick this up over the other new games dropping around it? This idea that they're is some kind of breakthrough content that's gonna make tens of thousands of people suddenly start playing it is cope. The ship has sailed.

>>737829697
>poignant means good
hello esl and/or melanin enriched anon. please disregard the previous post, it was intended for english speakers.

why do you shill this game

>>737830832
It's good

>>737831008
What's good about it

>>737828114
Marathon is some gay ass capitalism is heckin evil slop where you play as george droyd the tranny bot to be fodder for streamers to kill

>>737831161
NTA, but I just cleared Outpost with randoms. That felt really good. Marathon is a progression streamlining and a firing range away from being a great game.
>>>/vg/565100726

>>737831453
>make up scenario to be angry about

>>737828350
>>737828354
ban steam charts threads

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>>737829005
>>737829730
Season 2 only adds night raid to dire marsh and adds a new runner, maybe a gun, and a few minor things
compared to arc which has had monthly major content drops and just received a new map today along with even more, I don't know if season 2 will do jack shit.
Season 3 MIGHT have something substantial, but we don't know. 2 is nothing... + the reset... Idk if it'll do anything to help at all.

>>737832174
Behead those who insult Steam charts threads.

>>737832359
With how fast people are leaving, Season 2 is going to launch with CCU peaks of 10k at best.

>>737831161
It's a great game that merges the extraction shooter format into Deathmatch style map design and then condenses it into the perfect length for teams to meaningfully rotate and progress without stalling.
The gear and equipment and abilities also mean firefights are more interesting than just getting to actually see your enemy

>>737828964
>It's scifi but I wouldn't consider it cyberpunk
You don't understand cyberpunk
>Everything is too clean and organized.
Wrong

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>>737828964
>Everything is too clean and organized
didn't play the game award

>>737832359
The new Arc update looks ass desu

>>737834508
nice roblox gamemode lmao

>>737827791
ULTRAKILL NIGGAS

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>>737834060
>You don't understand cyberpunk
If you can't quote the opening line of Neuromancer from memory you don't get to talk about cyberpunk, faggot.

>>737834060
>you don't understand cyberpunk
No, you're the one that doesn't. Cyberpunk, even going back to its roots, is a mix of low life/trashy people/criminals intersecting with high tech and a stratified, dystopian society. Think drug culture and the sexual revolution with cyborg limbs and such.

Marathon has the 'big, omnipresent corporations' aspect, but the visual style is the neat/clean futurism of the Designer's Republic that formed the basis of its art style.

>>737834508
>here's one disorganized room
>that my perfectly manicured and proportioned fresh, clean silk robot body is navigating with my equally clean and well defined Roblox guns
1/10 for getting me to reply, faggot

>>737827791
why is every screenshot tranny colors?

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>>737835219
>>here's one disorganized room
That's just one room on one map. Different areas have different degrees of degradation. Buildings exposed to the elements are dirty, but closed rooms are generally clean.

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>>737835219
BLOODY BITCH BASTARD BUY THE MARATHONS SAAR

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>>737827791
I wouldn't call it Cyberpunk necessarily but the OST and cutscenes are bangers. I'm listening to the OST on the regular at work, and I'm particularly fond of the menu theme (tho it's technically a mashup of Escape Will Make Me God & Somewhere in the Heavens):
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taqqBVqZJi8
Too bad it's not single player, cause that killed my interest in playing it completely.

>>737835410
My point was, Marathon's levels are generally clean, organized, and purpose built because they're prefab colonist shit. It's not the 'layers upon layers' type mishmash build up you see in actual cyberpunk settings like GitS/Akira, CP2077, Dredd, and others.

>>737834508
>didn't play the game award
nobody is playing the game bro

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>>737835219
All of this perfectly fits Marathon like a fucking glove but you don't know shit about what you are talking.
Not only the protagonists are criminal hackers working gigs for any bidder for no true cause and turning onto each others, some for profits others for the actual thrill of it, transfering their consciousness into bodies to make themselves tools, but the omnipresent computer vision markers and hud elements and the way human colonial structures are deliberately styled to represent prefabs created and thrown from space highlights how humanity is alien to this hostile world that actively wants them dead.
The maps are full of details that add background worldbuilding around what kind of society Tau Ceti was and how the UESC and the various factions operate and how they came to be.
Marathon presnets a lot of similarities and affinities to Blade Runner and GITS thematically and stylistically

>>737836269
That's an entire paragraph of nonsense cope to try to shoehorn this plastic roblox game into a gritty cyberpunk setting.

>protags are criminal hackers
You're literal wagies for corporations. Maybe mercs at an absolute best.
>humanity is alien to this hostile world
No shit humanity is alien to the planet. Humanity is alien to ANY planet that isn't earth. This is just basic sci fi, not cyberpunk.
>the maps are full of worldbuilding
Again, scifi, not cyberpunk.
>Marathon presents a lot of similarities to Blade Runner and GitS thematically
Beyond the 'robot body with the ability to have different consciousnesses' thing (that only ties into GitS), it has virtually nothing in common with Blade Runner
>and stylistically
Now I know you're retarded. Blade Runner is rainy, gloomy, dark 'tech noir' with a ton of greeble on everything. GitS is Japanese super complex tech megastructure shit with incredibly detailed mechanicals and, at least in the first GitS movie, a grimy, 'this city is filthy' feel. Marathon is a complete departure from both with clean lines, colorful shapes, rounded edges, and a near total lack of hyper detail on its textures and models. The 90s Marathon had more in common with Blade Runner or GitS than nuMarathon does. Stop being a fucking retard.

>>737836269
>Blade Runner
I didn't like that movie. The VFX were nice, though.

>>737836765
>You're literal wagies for corporations. Maybe mercs at an absolute best.
More specifically, their minds are legally owned by CyberAcme. They can't really quit. But apparently, the agent of the Arachne faction, Charter, used to be a runner.
>The 90s Marathon had more in common with Blade Runner or GitS than nuMarathon does
In what way?

>>737836269
>ugly ass blue building with nice sky environment
Who thought that was a good idea? Its like the buildings didnt render properly

>>737836972
>90s marathon
Grittier, edgier, and it felt more 'you against the world' since you were there alone. And you were a literal security android or something.

It's still tenuous though, and I personally wouldn't consider either Marathon (OG or new) as cyberpunk. They're just scifi shooters.

>>737837019
the solid color textures are so incredibly lazy

>>737837019
>>737837245
I like it. Better than them being some metallic gray.

>>737837414
>it's either lazy solid colors with random text or metallic gray
cope

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>>737836765
>You're literal wagies for corporations. Maybe mercs at an absolute best.
yes, that's Cyberpunk
>No shit humanity is alien to the planet.
and yet no game understand and portays that narratively and stylistically like Marathon does
>Again, scifi, not cyberpunk.
wrong
>Beyond the 'robot body with the ability to have different consciousnesses' thing (that only ties into GitS), it has virtually nothing in common with Blade Runner
No, it has a lot of similarities, and part of that is the style and narrative you dismiss.
The fact that players are not some kind of hero rebels but cogs that live their life as tools, playing the cards they were given by ompossibly large entities manuvering them from across LIGHT YEARS is Cyberpunk.
The automated, robotic structures hanging like ghosts, the colonial buildings with omnipresent surveillance and automated turrets
You think Blade Runner has a fucking ziggurat because the author believed corporations would build a ziggurat in fucking Los Angeles in the future? No retard, It's symbolism, and Marathon uses it constantly.
>Blade Runner is rainy, gloomy, dark 'tech noir' with a ton of greeble on everything. GitS is Japanese super complex tech megastructure shit with incredibly detailed mechanicals and, at least in the first GitS movie, a grimy, 'this city is filthy' feel. Marathon is a complete departure from both with clean lines, colorful shapes, rounded edges, and a near total lack of hyper detail on its textures and models. The 90s Marathon had more in common with Blade Runner or GitS than nuMarathon does
If Alita Battle Angel wasn't pre-approved by the Internet culture you fucking retard passively assimilated like a drone you would call it not Cyberpunk because it's not rainy and gloomy and Zalem is a huge floating city. You never actually read Ghost in the Shell, and not even the movie is just rain and gloom. You are fucking retarded

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>>737837414
Games like synthetik do it better because the natural environment is majority of that same colour
With games like marathon its doing a bob Ross painting then taking a paint bucket and splashing it all over your creation
Its ugly

>>737837796
>Games like synthetik do it better
Based on that image, it's more or less the same.
>because the natural environment is majority of that same colour
But I like the contrast.

>>737837702
Maratroon isn’t cyberpunk. But DEFECT is and excels pvpve as well as providing pve and single player modes. Maratroon isn’t going to last until the end of the year

>>737837702
Honestly anon, I think you don't actually know what cyberpunk is. Working for a corporation isn't automatically cyberpunk. Having prefab colony stuff isn't cyberpunk and has been a trope in scifi for probably a half a century at least. Having empty, automated structures isn't cyberpunk.

Everything you're describing is just scifi you're desperately trying to push through a cyberpunk mold, but it simply isn't. There are thin threads of cyberpunk in Marathon, but even then you can argue it's just scifi.

Go compare screenshots of GitS (SAC), Blade Runner (OG and 2047), CP2077, RUINER, The Ascent, SYNTHETIK and other games to Marathon. It's a night and day difference where there's clearly one camp (cyberpunk) and the other (Marathon).

Saying Marathon is cyberpunk would be like calling LA Noire an action game. It isn't, and you'd get laughed at if you tried.

>>737837870
>I love goyslop and sending all my money to isreal
We know

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>>737836765
>IT'S NOT CYBERPUNK IF THERE'S NO RAIN
You are so fucking stupid it's unreal

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>>737837870
The contrast just doesnt look good bro I dont know what to tell you
It feels like a mess to me and therefore its shit
You can have a nice sky box sure but having untextured looking buildings doesnt set a tone to me. Instead it feels like a rushed product
The only game I can think of that has a better "contrast" with the environment is titanfall because the colour's look saturated enough to fit in with the doom and gloom feeling

>>737838094
He’s just a shill coping that this dogshit game flopped and bungie is going to get raped for their failures

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>>737838094
>You don't know what cyberpunk is
Said by the retard that doesn't know 80% of Cyberpunk media

>>737838230
just take the L and post about having a blast or something. you're out of your depth

>>737838174
Blade Runner was just listed as an example of how Marathon looks nothing like it. Not all cyberpunk is that tech noir rainy/night time look, you idiot.

>>737838220
It seems more like I triggered his autism than anything.

>>737838230
And if that's a screenshot you're using an example of cyberpunk, guess what, Marathon looks nothing fucking like it. Thanks for helping to prove my point.

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>>737838212
>The contrast just doesnt look good bro I dont know what to tell you
There is nothing you can tell me that will convince me that Marathon doesn't look good.

>a bunch of cyborg criminals fighting the govt on corporate behalf on an abandoned off world colony
I mean it sounds pretty cyberpunk desu

>>737838516
I dont doubt it. You are a professionally trained bungshill afterall

>>737838516
>t. I'm a shameless shill
aight

>>737838574
It sounds more like a Roger Korman movie, or maybe a SciFi Original movie more than anything.

>>737838516
>There is nothing you can tell me that will convince me that Marathon doesn't look good.
yes we know you're a retarded person with dogshit taste or an outright shill

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>>737838626
>>737838654
>Express positive sentiment towards a game
>SHILL SHILL SHILL
I love /v/.

>>737838516
You damn gamers are ruining reddit

>>737827791
It's a welcome break from noodles raincoat night drizzle Chinatown neon aesthetics

Marathon represents boy in the striped pajamas pretty well to me

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>>737838326
Read more books and watch more media, retardo

>>737838843
>+100 lux has been added to your account

>>737827791
These are the first good looking screenshots I've ever seen for this game. It always looked so ugly it's unreal.

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>>737838910
Whoa this marathon image looks goo-
>green lime building
AND JUST LIKE THAT STRAIGHT IN THE TRASH

>>737838910
That's a fine scifi screenshot. Marathon does scifi perfectly well.

But it's not cyberpunk, and your inability to understand what cyberpunk is (including an outright refusal to acknowledge the visuals in the original films/comics/books that defined the genre) won't ever change this.

>>737838741
I guess? I just feel stuff like Moon is a Harsh Mistress or Ubik exemplifies a lot of themes a lot of contemporary 'cyberpunk' fiction fails to capture like existentialism and lack of free will in a post singularity society

>>737839042
Is cyberpunk just neon trenchcoat while slurping synth noodles in Chinatown for you

>>737838843
>positive sentiment
>"There is nothing you can tell me that will convince me that Marathon doesn't look good."
that's not positive sentiment, that's some cult shit lmao. you should probably be playing right now before the imminent EOS/maintenance mode announcement

>>737834583
It's ludokino, rest assured

>>737839189
>No you can't enjoy videogames on /v/!!!!!1!
Lol
Lmao

>>737827791
I would call it neofuturist instead, cyberpunk should contrast the lowlife with the high tech, while Marathon does feature the runner/corporate merc side, the aesthetics are too clean. Which is a good choice actually because sci-fi of that type aren't very common.
It has the aesthetics of Synthetik with the themes of SOMA and I wouldn't call either of those cyberpunk.
Good game though. Great OST.

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>>737839189
I'm actually playing Minecraft right now, playing around with Create Aeronautics.

Marathon fan base is more of a hug box than arc raiders

>>737839273
>I will misquote the post I am replying to and reply to that instead
waow!!

>>737837181
Wdym, 90s marathon was just featureless and smooth metal corridors until you got to the Pfhor ships and Lhowan which was just rainbow textures or mud

>>737839104
Cyberpunk is a unique combination of varying aesthetics, themes, and sci-fi concepts. I haven't read Ubik, but MiaHM isn't cyberpunk any more than Starship Troopers would be, IMO. It's just good scifi.

>>737839186
No, but that's certainly one of the flavors that's mostly inspired by the original Blade Runner movie (absent the neon trenchcoat). What I see in my minds eye when thinking of 'cyberpunk' is mostly the Ghost in the Shell version, but now with a 50/50 mix of CP2077. Lots of mechanical detail and tech greeble, but grounded in reality. Large super structures/megatowers. AI as this looming/pseudo-supernatural threat. Corporations running the show. Street gangs with mishmashed cyborg limbs. That kind of thing. DE:HR is a good benchmark here, and you'll also note that Marathon looks nothing like that, either.

>>737839273
Enjoying vidya is fine, but taking a position of 'I will never, EVER change my opinion here, regardless of ANY information or reality that occurs' is religious fanatic level territory.

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>>737827791
I'm getting real tired of people confusing 'style over substance' for a meta tenant of the genre and not purely an in universe thing to illustrate societal decay and a critique of the anti-intellectualism that lead to it. I guess the sunset of humanity really is coming.

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>>737839678
>the sunset of humanity really is coming.
The folks down at bungie would jam to that

>>737839494
That's kinda where I disagree
Cyberpunk as a genre is going to be perpetually stuck in pre y2k in terms of flashy aesthetics since it never really expected smartphones and drone warfare to be such a big thing
Fucking Death Stranding does a better job of moving the genre forward than 2077 did

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>>737839042
>Marathon is not cyberpunk, cyberpunk is rainy and gloomy
>uhhh this cyberpunk media that is not rainy and gloomy and nothing like Blade Runner doesn't count because my criteria of what constitute a genre comes from the most basic bitch normalfaggot take
You should cyberkillyourself

These threads are a lot of fun because you can feel the Sony desperation in these increase after the DRM news.

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>>737839427
Does this classify as a hug?

>>737840004
Don't interrupt an interesting discussion with consoletard drama

>>737840038
Why is this game so ugly?

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>>737839494
Ghost in the Shell is actually nothing like you think it is
The manga does not have the same Matrix trenchcoat and noodle slurping Chinatown style of the theatrical animation movies

>>737839873
CP2077 was based on the TTRPG which was based on the pre-internet cyberpunk stuff, so expecting that game to really move the genre wasn't realistic. What CP2077 does is provide the best realization of that style of cyberpunk. As for the genre evolving, that might be a Ship of Theseus situation since the parts changing enough would mean what you end up with is so different as to be its own genre.

>>737839887
>cyberpunk is rainy and gloomy
I don't know why you're fixated on this. It was just one part of Blade Runner that was mentioned with a handful of other, non-rainy examples of cyberpunk.

Is this you having a meltdown and your defensive mechanism for losing this argument is to just do the 'I'll pretend I didn't understand, so I can still win' thing? I hope not.

>>737840173
The art style is the only interesting thing the game has going for it. I like it myself, but why Bungie would gamble their company on probably the most divisive art style you could put in a AAA game for the mass market is beyond me.

>>737840310
Ghost in the Shell is exactly what I think it is because I've been enjoying its media for almost three decades.
>noodle slurping Chinatown
Except that is basically what the first GitS movie was since it took place in SEA? And why are you so autistically fixated on this 'noodle slurping' phrase?

And that pic you used is of the new GitS series that's coming out soon, lil bro. It's not any of the older GitS content.

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post dads of marathon faces when all the loot they gathered after playing one hour a night after work is wiped

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>>737840602

To me cyberpunk is best when it's 99% like modernlife except the glowies and corporations have some super tech like in Cell or Severance

>>737840602
This game is so dad unfriendly I have no fucking clue who these dads of Marathon are
>t. single father with two boys

Is welcome to the nhk and a neptunia count as cyberpunk fiction

>>737827791
Thats not cyberpunk tranny

>>737840747
I assume it's the 'furkid' type of chungus dad that just has some cats or a small dog.

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>>737840796
What is cyberpunk to you then
Trash filled cities and mohawks with prosthetics?

i love this game bros
just wish there was more maps and players
troons on twitter obsessing over chart numbers really did a negative feedback loop number on this game. they havent even tried it they just play the chart.

>>737841254
Something something Bungie "do not overdeliver" muh train station philosophy
You'll get Night Marsh after two months and say thank you

>>737841376
>You'll get Night Marsh after two months and say thank you
I might if it's good. This is my first Bungie game, so have no grudge against them, but also no loyalty.

>>737841720
The Arc update is pure dogshit, terrible map and massive nerfs, and Helldivers is confirmed dead and never improving after that disastrous swigger reddit Q&A
Never played Hunt
Can't say anything about Marathon because there's NO FUCKING UPDATE WHAT ARE YOU DOING BUNGIE WHERE IS THE CONTENT

>>737841836
dr disrespect is doing an "arc stream new map lets go boys". i click on it and he is playing the finals. is it that bad?

>>737827791
it fundamentally misunderstands cyberpunk, actually. marathon is a product that fetishizes the tropes of cyberpunk aesthetics rather than the substance of cyberpunk. it is just yet another dime in the bag of do androids dream/neuromancer flanderizations. it is a complete inability and lack of wanting to move and push the genre forward in a literary sense. this game is just moving pinterest images.

>>737828841
You answered yourself by posting this image. Image you posted is somewhat appealing. Marathon is just disgusting.

>>737842140
I think it does it well since you fight on behalf of corporations instead of trying to subvert them like in most cyberpunk fiction

I don't think OP (or the corporate stooge who wrote his shill talking points) knows what cyberpunk is.

It's over

>>737832174
This isn't a steam chart thread, it's a bungie shill thread.

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This will save Marathon

>>737841836
>WHAT ARE YOU DOING BUNGIE WHERE IS THE CONTENT
In June.

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>>737842351
>since you fight on behalf of corporations instead of trying to subvert them

>>737842351
Mega corporations in the future =/= cyberpunk. The "punk" part is important, it is half of what defines the genre. There's plenty of "cyber" in Marathon, but no punk. Neon purple is not punk.

>>737842539
I think that's a memepost left over from launch, when even the Steam forums had tons of 'Giving away 20/30/50 Marathon keys (REAL)' type posts. Pretty funny, desu

>>737842351
thats not enough to make it novel. ancient cyberpunk literature already has protagonists that work for the megacorporations like Deckard does in DADOES. this is a basic trope of cyberpunk as well. also i fail to see the punk aspect of marathon.

>>737842608
MIDA are political terrorists with huge anonymous backers so eh
Orion basically calls them sore authoritarian losers

thats just a bunch of 90 degree angles with purple and blue lights

>>737842613
Syndicate and GitS isn't cyberpunk then?

>>737842762
I mean you are fighting against the government and other criminals

>>737842823
dont know what syndicate is but GitS is definitely cyberpunk as it very much leans into the high tech/low culture dynamic which is the heart of cyberpunk.

>>737842889
ok. and? all cyberpunk means is high tech/low culture and how that relates to whatever the piece of media is, is up to the author. philip k dick was interested in humanism/post-humanism and how to define what makes someone human AKA philosophical noir. gibson was interested in data as a means of matrix hallucination. in other words; Dick was all about the spirit while Gibson was all about the street.

>>737843005
I really recommend it and Syndicate Wars
The new shooter one was pretty eh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syndicate_(1993_video_game)

>>737843005
>>737843243
There was a modern spiritual successor called Satellite Reign that was apparently ok. I never played the original Syndicate back in the day, so idk if Satellite Reign is a faithful recreation of it.

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>>737827791
But why didn't it understand good game design?

IDK about culture and shit but extraction shooters are a very good genre in regards to educating you on class consciousness

>>737831453
jfc just stick to your destiny marvel quip slop you pleb

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>I'm full of fury
>She's got an army
>And you got magic green strings
>Let's crush this Calus guy!
3.6 Billion dollar acquisition

>>737842823
GitS is definitively cyberpunk. Any incarnation of it showcases the clash of high tech with low society. It's not just the fact that the criminals are cyborgs as well as the cops, it's the way high tech has changed criminal activity itself. Like, prostitutes in GitS often aren't even people, they're gynoids, and then you have the kind of shit hackers get up to some of which wouldn't even exist as a category of crime without the kind of tech they have. Like that guy who turned his own cyberbrain into a "ghost trap" for unwary net divers, but due to the way it worked, it wasn't technically malware or a virus, but a kind of positive feedback loop that kept people stuck there.

>>737831453
>huge cyberpunk fan discovers anticapitalism is a pillar of the genre

>>737843348
They did, but only the in-match gameplay. People bounced off of Marathon because the progression is really grindy. A casual player is unlikely to get VIP in any faction other than CyberAcme. At least half of the game's issues would go away if Bungie streamlined the progression and added a firing range.

>>737843537
I am convinced a lot of people who claim to like cyberpunk are either blind to or simply ignore the "punk" part, they never question what it means.

>>737843297
Og syndicate was much more mayhem focused and you could mind control huge crowds in comparison

Aren't all the runners basically slaves and the colonists just being written off as acceptable losses

>>737843461
I guess
Marathon feel more like System Shock or SOMA in that regard

Itt: no one knows that cyberpunk is

>>737843553
>streamlined progression
>firing range
Don't worry xister knowing good ol bungie you will get a reworked (not streamlined) progression system 1-2 years from now and a firing range 6 years from now

>>737827861
>>737828350
>>737828354
related: unironically will Destiny 2 even make it through the year?

>>737843348
It's good, it's just ridiculously grindy and the maps are too small/too many players per map

>its STILL dropping every week
what the hell

>>737843693
>Aren't all the runners basically slaves
Indentured servants to pay for immortality, yes
>and the colonists just being written off as acceptable losses
Yes, but it's not known for what reason, since the ending of the Tau Ceti colony that Tycho described was retconed or he just lied about it

>>737843789
Lots of posters have given cogent and commonly accepted definitions. At this point, I feel like its bad actors (like yourself) trying to muddy the waters so you can squeeze games like Marathon into the genre.

>>737843857
Destiny 1 servers are still up so who knows

>>737843857
Hopefully not
Bungie need not to ruin destiny anymore with crossover slop. They can just let it die

>>737843857
I feel like Marathon and Destiny 2's fates are tied together, since whatever Sony decides to do with Bungie will impact both.

>>737843942
It doesnt help D1, D2, and marathon all use the same servers

>>737843887
Marathon is cyberpunk though considering the BoBs and the AIs

>>737843887
Marathon sits on the threshold where it has the futurism and the megacorps and complete commercialisation of biomass and cyberspace and lowlife runners, but has a completely different design language. It has the ethos but a different type of futuristic aesthetics.

>>737831453
hmmm almost like that is one of the central pillars of what cyberpunk is all about.

>>737844042
It has no punk aspect, it's just a dystopian sci-fi.

>>737843857
D2 already made the money it needed and more, it can just coast off MTX money for year and years to come
Marathon just came out, isn't making any money off MTX, has no players, and only sold 1 million copies
apples and oranges

Every modern sci-fi has a cyberpunk elements.

>>737843584
they simply see the "punk" as fun jingling keys and flashing colors. they dont think about it deeper than that.

>>737843887
Are you gonna claim something ridiculous like the Time Machine or Zardoz or Kappa is cyberpunk now since it's about class contrast with technology

>>737844042
simply having fucking AI is not cyberpunk. is star trek cyberpunk because it has AI?

>>737844135
>D2 made the money it needed
No it didn't. Bungie was running in the red because of how much money they need to stay open and that's why they let themselves get bought by Sony. Even Microsoft looked at Bungie's books and said hell no when they were on their studio buying spree.

Destiny 2 probably only made a profit for half a year at best. Bungie's operating costs are insane, and remember they had over 1500 people at one point.

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>>737840437
>The art style is the only interesting thing the game has going for it
I also like the story bits you are rewarded with for extracting valuables. Especially the ones involving colony AIs.

>>737844162
depends what you mean by modern sci-fi. Dune is an example of a sci-fi story without any cyberpunk element. I have no mouth is also a short story with no cyberpunk elements.

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>>737827791
You don't hate Triple A game "studios" enough.
They are all soulless parasitic suites wearing the faces of dead game developers. Bungie is just board of spreadsheet ghouls sucking people into them like an ethical black-hole. The Bungie Corporation is designed to grind up people into human meat, and then sell that corporate slop to gamers.
The bottom line is money, Bungie doesn't give a fuck about you.

>>737827791
>cyberpunk is when... ummm.. pink and blue colors and robots
cool, man.

>>737844224
I'm not the one making ridiculous, over-inclusive claims about cyberpunk, my own definition that I offered was bog-standard and the same one any reasonably informed person would've given you over the last 30 years. Every single series I've talked about is not only widely and long accepted in the genre, they are formative to it, and are the origins of half the tropes and cliches that people think of when they hear "cyberpunk".

>>737844232
No but considering how everyone is an enslaved meat popsicle to an insane corporate AI by the time Durandal rolls around a la Troubleshooter, I'd say it's close

Just took my daily dose of HRT while playing vandal!

>>737844463
That's not cyberpunk either.

>>737844494
I meant Paranoia, I apologize

>>737844463
What is punk about that? You are still only looking at half the equation so it's no wonder you're confused about why people say your answer is wrong.

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Engaging these paid actors on the semantics of their "games". Only helps them shill their goy slop.
Anything being made by Bungie nowadays is festering pile of rotting meat. Dressed up to look just appetizing enough for them to hook you into a purchase.

>>737844578
Considering BoBs live absolutely miserable lives aboard Marathon despite it being the highest form of human tech in the setting, I'd say it's a good example

>>737844425
2000 AD predates Gibson's works and I'd say it's cyberpunk

>>737829005
Bro there’s no bump coming the game is a burnt offering to Snoy and nothing more. Bungie knowingly aren’t committing to Marathon they have no interest in an extraction game it was always a ploy to land the billion dollar buyout. Watch the quality disparity from their next product it’s going to burn your ass even harder than it already is. Bungie are scumbag pieces of shit.

>>737828809
kek

>>737844348
Pretentious image.
>making your own game engine coming into Windows from MS-DOS wasn't unheard of, Chris Sawyer knew sequels would need 3D graphics and be more complex than what he could do which is why he stepped away from development
>kkrieger is a demo, the demo scene is neat but it shouldn't be compared to real content rich games
>everyone was copying Apogee and Epic MegaGames with shareware back then, today you can publish demos online through digital distribution
>LMAO, in the 90s hardware advanced so quickly that your cutting edge CPU was completely obsolete in a year or two. And not just because of performance, often entire architectures changed and it straight up wouldn't run anymore.

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Anyone with a shred of honor would be going into the board meetings and punching in the face of every corporate parasite at Bungie.
Keyring the CEO's car, taking him out back and breaking his legs, and then hanging him up by his bootstraps so as to make an example of the God-Complex Grifter CEO posing as a person.

>>737845058
Post the webm of this schizo's thumbnails

>>737844920
Kill yourself, pajeet. Shill your shit inside Vishnu's asshole.

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>>737827791
Marawho?

>>737843874
i love the game but once you get a vault full of golds and shit there isnt much to work on this season. i pop in from time to time but im playing other shit right now waiting for wipe

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>>737844750
>Bro there’s no bump coming
Just like the game would go EoS in 1 month after release?
>Bungie knowingly aren’t committing to Marathon
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2026/04/22/more-bungie-devs-are-working-on-marathon-than-destiny-2-now/
With this said, if whatever Bungie has planned for season 2 doesn't both get people playing again and staunch the CCU bleeding, it might be over.

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>ITT:

>>737845124
How delightfully angry you are.

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I'll never understand why people defend these shit failed games so vehemently, even highguard.
I really hope you're all bots and overpaid shills tb h.

>>737845704
Bungie shills have a very bad case of stockholm syndrome

>>737845704
It's the only good multiplayer shooter on the market desu

>>737845704
>I'll never understand why people defend these shit failed games so vehemently, even highguard.

You think this is some sort of game?!

>its the only good turd in the toilet bowl right now

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we don't hate purple slop enough

>>737845090
>>737845425
>>737845542
Don't forget that Marathon development started in 2019 and wasted more than 400 millions to make 3 maps and almost no content on release, Sony paid 3.6 billions for Bungie, which included Marathon and Bungie's live service expertise, which effectively killed the entirety of ps5 library, D2 is dying so now the burden of 4 billions investment lies on Marathon, this will be remembered as the biggest flop of a generation, bigger than Concord even

>>737846070
Does that mean that Bungie still has 3.6 billion dollars

>>737845936
you can play counter strike or quake right now, retard. they are old as fuck and still mog this shite

>>737845936
>>737845986
If it's so good then why people are leaving already?
>but it's le hardcore and complex game
Not harder than Apex, not an argument

>>737846162
I don't like either of those tho and they're both overrun by thirdies

>>737846070
they spent all that money on employees going on tiktok and pinterest looking at "aesthetic-core" pages and copy-pasting it into their game.

>>737846186
Battle royales are gay

>>737846187
>he thinks marathon isn't
anon... i...

>>737846260
The price tag keeps them out desu

>>737846186
>>but it's le hardcore and complex game

if anything it's actually easier than something like Tarkov.
BUT, by making it easier and more accessible, it actually drives away more players and makes more people quit.

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>>737846125
>Bungie still has 3.6 billion dollars
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA

>>737846287
>The price tag keeps them out
Yet arc raiders has them too despite being the same price
Maybe Marathon has no thirdies because only americans play that game

>>737845704
A lot of it is ideological tribalism, anon. You see the same behavior with religious people, sports fans, and fanatics who really love a particular brand.

>>737827791
so? it's still a shit game that nobody wants to play

>>737845704
Idk, Snowbreak still has a general on /vg/

>>737846506
Lel
I wonder how the stalker dev did it

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>>737846228
If BRs are gay then why Marathon's game director himself wants to turn it into one?

>>737846829
Because that faggot is honestly the worst and thought that upping gun volume, nerfing bots, and putting more teams on maps was a good idea
Now the meta is still just grenade spam and he can't fucking figure that shit out

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>>737827791
>Marathon UNDERSTANDS Cyberpunk
>t.

The raping shall continue
The betrayals shall continue
And soon enough... bungie will be DEAD

>>737847016
That's actually a pretty nice selfie anon

>>737846829
Anon, Bungie would turn Marathon into a CTF game if they thought it would turn things around at this point.

>>737827791

This guy is having a BLAST on MARATHON, a REAL BLAST HAVER.

>>737847083
It's the same face as the shitty *nods respectfully toward you* basedjack guy.

>>737847016
That goes beyond a muscle shirt and just looks like a backless dress.

>>737847142
Okay? I guy who's well groomed, without glasses, with a natural hair color, and capable of running marathons isn't exactly a bad role model in this case

>>737847016
>pendejo söymutt zoomer
>earrings and tattoos
>loves marathon
what a combo

>>737847016
>Athlete with gamer shirt
Based

>>737847016
Hot

>>737845936
Arc is better tbqhwy

>>737847421
I don't care for pve

>>737847016
Qué asco

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>guys we're listening, 2 more weeks, trust the plan
Bungie is done for

>>737847210
Still looks like he's trying to hold in a fart, anon. And he's a manlet, too.

>>737847502
Cool, still looks better than 99% of /fit/ desu

>>737847483
This just makes it sound like they panic nerfed the WSTR without doing enough testing to know they went too far.

The whole thing makes them feel like they're flying by the seat of their pants, too

>>737847483

i genuinely hope they go away forever, jobs be damned, this company is ass.

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>>737847483
>We are the Fellowship of the RANGZ
Except Marathon is the Rings of Power equivalent

>>737847860
Please stop advertising to these click bait sites

>>737847860
>extraction shooters need PVP
>our extraction shooter that has PVP is getting its lunch eaten by the extraction shooter that focused on PVE

Ziegler really is going to die on this hardcore PVP 3v3 hill, isn't he?

>>737847892
He didn't post a xitter screencap though?

>even /v/ doesn't care about Marathon anymore
What went wrong?

>>737848125
/v/ shitposts about the game daily, but the jannies are real tight asses about only letting one thread up at a time, like they do with Undertale/Deltarune. The night time jannies are even bigger cunts about it.

>>737846829
Marathon would've done alot better as a BR than a fucking extraction shooter.
Hell it would've done better it if an extraction shooter-lite like Hunt or even something like Payday.
Certainly not this garbage watered down mmo-lite game we got.

Christ, even a hardcore mode or "survival" mode for Destiny would've been better or something similar like the "Dark Zone" in The Division.

>>737840038
diIate DVRtranny

>>737848262
Payday isn’t an extraction shooter

>>737848262
I agree. There are weird hints of stuff like the virus packs and the TADs still that showed it was originally gonna be more of a PvE focused game

>>737827791
If I see one more marathon shill thread, I swear I'm going to fuckin buy the game! Don't say I didn't warn ya!

The most lore clashing and immersion breaking thing is how the uesc is hyped up to be a threat when they're laughably easy to kill in game compared to runners
Even wardens go down like chumps to emp grenades

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>running trios with fill on dire marsh
>pretty sure the two guys on my team are in a party
>They're on the same quest and they don't respond to anything I say
>we win 2 fights, I didn't carry but I was probably like 60% since the 1 guy instantly went down both times.
>They're running over to the next part of their quest. I ping an enemy runner and tell them to be careful
>I play cautiously and stay back, take highground and provide suppressive fire
>It's actually 2 teams over there. I tell them this
>they just rush in headfirst anyways. They die. obviously.
>sit up on my roof and start pickpocketing loot from the two remaining teams with my drone and bringing it back to myself while they fight each other (btw I'm trans idk if that matters)
>hide for a long time. Try typing to teammates that I'll try reviving them. They still don't say anything back.
>drone over, 1 team with purple shields still hanging out near their bodies. They shoot my drone down
>exfil not too far away. Only like 7 mins left at this point
>decide fuck them. They acted like a duo this entire time, and I have a shit ton of loot including tarax seed which are so fuckin hard to find
>go over to the exfil, see a rook waddling away for dear life as I approach
>there's no cover and I have a direct shot on him as he flees behind a box to try hiding. I spare him.
>tell him I'm friendly and will not shoot at him if he doesn't shoot at me
>he agrees and tells me dire marsh is a bloodbath. Asks where my team is
>"dead"
>we exfil together peacefully
Not bad...

I try not to be a selfish dickhead who bails on people at first sign of trouble, but I've also been doing a lot better now being willing to walk away and exfil alone if my teammates are retards who take excessive risk. I died so much trying to fight doomed 1v3s or trying to revive teammates who put themselves in a bad situation in the first place. At the end of the day it's every runner for herself

>>737849342
So true xister blasts were had, forms were returned, the lightning was bottled, ICE was crushed, the vaxx was taken, the nazis were punched, and the comeback was studied.

>>737849079
it literally is

>>737850392
False

>>737827791
>Marathon understands cyberpunk
no it doesn't. The color palette looks like it was designed by an 8 year old with a highlighter

>>737850453
NTA, but I thought extraction shooters required PVP to qualify? Isn't Payday co-op against NPCs?

>>737827791
it's not cyberpunk, it's post-cyberpunk.

>>737827791
the art direction and design of Marathon is amazing. Its very unique and its so refreshing to see a video game really craft its own style other than "muh realism" or the typical tumblr/troon slop calarts style shit you see pollute sci-fi and fantasy across the board. I also dont give a shit about the plagerism charges since video games have always been shameless pop culture vultures

that said, the game itself is really just mediocre. Its a basic bitch extraction shooter, but with this convoluted upgrade system.

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>>737827791
>"YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, PLASTIC TOY GUNS ARE COOL!"

>>737851184
all guns are basically toys

>>737847968
>i hate pvp
>i know i will play a pvp game and whine until its something else
why do carebears do this?

>>737852164
PVE was a practical possibility in Arc before the devs moved the focus there. PVE has always been an afterthought in Marathon. That's the difference.

>>737852224
>i hate pvp
>i will play the game where pve is an afterthought

>>737852678
Anyone who hates PVP has no business playing Marathon, yeah.

But if you like PVE, it wasn't unreasonable to play Arc, even before the ABMM changes. It's just easier now, which is one of the many reasons why Arc is thriving and Marathon is in palliative care.

>>737838212
jfc this is the most generic thing I've ever seen
everything looks muddy and hard to tell apart, stale, and ding
it looks like literally every other video game from 2011
people like you are the literal problem

>>737850789
>the art direction and design of Marathon is amazing
why do redditors keep saying this? the art style is extremely bland and low-effort. the color palette is nauseating. The pixelated UI and typography is extremely low effort. There's nothing good about the art style

>>737827791
The eternal problem with Bungie that the level and set design is way better than the gameplay design, this could have been a pretty kino single player game.

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>>737838516
extremely ugly game

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>>737854312
It looks like irl factories and the antarctica bases which I find neat

>>737854408
>Wooded Perimeter
This looks pretty cool ngl

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>>737828350
So much for "stabilizing" at 20k, huh.

>>737854306
Sorry xister I didnt know we needed more games with ugly buildings and tranny characters
Ill consider that for next time I make a opinion

its a looter shooter.. or extraction shooter.. whatever the fuck it is i have never been interested in this game and will never buy or play it, but very interested in the music and will eventually download the full album one day

>>737850649
For the most part but there are some pve only ones. An extraction shooter generally means you are going around a map collecting loot while fighting other players and npcs. Payday is a coop game where you go into a map with a specific objective to complete

Id play more marathon but all my friends were taken by ICE...

>>737827791
>Marathon UNDERSTANDS Cyberpunk
unfortunately their maps don't look interesting
you need the urban sprawl to be truly cyberpunk

Marathon players will DROWN... in the RAPE

>>737849342
This sound "cool" until you realize this is all extraction shooters are. They're just extremely shallow "will he shoot me, or should I should them" sims. Seen it once, seen it all.

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>>737841036
Yes

Hype? Hope? Future? Content?

>>737843459
Xer exposed chest always bothered the fuck out of me.

>>737854513
As a novelty, yes, but current Perimeter is a lot better.

>>737834000
But I didn't want a live service always online fomo battle pass game though
I wanted a focused single player campaign with expanded lore on the Tau Ceti colony, you know, like Marathon is supposed to be

>>737863570
BLOODY BITCH BASTARD
SAAR REDEEM THE BATTLEPASS, LUX, AND MARATHONS