>>737828915
>using intended game mechanics is cheating
??

>>737828915
Wow you proved you are more of a virgin. congrats.

>>737828995
If you want to present yourself as a hardcore skillful gamer maybe don't use baby builds that make the game easier than journalist mode?

>>737828995
>comet azur and dual bleed katana
It's cheating

>>737828915
>friend uses trainer to beat the game
>once he is done uses SAM to unlock all achievements
>uninstalls the game

>>737829186
Have you tried exposing him?

>>737828915
Fatalis is easier with GS than DB, by a lot. The DPS check is also a part break check. You only need to land a few GS hits, doing it alone on DB is probably bottom 3 weapons to pick.

>>737828915
Bait used to be believable.

>>737829379
>Fatalis is easier with GS than DB, by a lot
GS only becomes broken in Fatalis after you actually get Fatalis set. I forgot to mention he also grinded Fatalis set to beat him and used the fuck out of smoke and poison bombs to glitch Fatalis in the corner.

>>737829458
Why do you think I'm baiting?

>>737829475
Ok well I did everything on your list naked. You're a fake gamer who cheats and uses non default weapons and actually wears armor.

Not OP, my friend used mimic but I didn't mind. We had fun talking about what summons are fun to build around. I never felt the need to say he didn't beat the game. He plays SnS and BTFOs me in MH any day.

>>737828915
dw anon, your friend is a fag and you're the real-er gamer. It's true.

>>737828915
You're a petty faggot

>>737829568
>We had fun talking about what summons are fun to build around
Gay

i've been doing a sorcerer playthrough, and yet the only time i managed to pull Comet Azur was with Mohg...

The point of an RPG is to find ways to effectively use the tools the game gives you.
If you struggle at building good characters or deducing which weapons are superior to what then that’s an IQ issue on your part.

>>737829475
Holy cope
My first clear was just drawswirding
You can zero skill fatty with just drawswirding and velkhana

>>737830380
You watched guides and you didn't beat him day 0

>>737830213
>>737830090
I don't like to criticize other people's playstyles, but how can you enjoy this? Pressing one button to kill a boss instead of learning its moveset and embracing the challenge. It doesn't look very fun.

>>737828915
>he thinks he's on my level
He isn't.
>I tell him he's cheesing the games and robbing himself of a great challenge
He isn't. If you like the extra challenge, great. But he isn't "robbing" himself unless he gives a shit about the extra challenge of using specific builds.
>How do I make him realize he's basically a cheater?
He isn't. You're being a dumbass. Just be glad your friend even plays the same game as you instead of trying to force him to acknowledge your superiority in this specific thing.

>he leveled up his character/weapons
You didn't beat the game

>>737830593
That’s a failure of the game, not the player.
Not his fault that the game is too easy.

>>737830704
I hate you. You started your post agreeing with me to think you're my friend but at the end you stabbed my back
Fuck you

>>737828915
>"More honest than me though?"

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There are a lot of things soulsfaggotry ruined, from gameplay, story telling, to video game discourse, but what actually caused this I don't know what to call it, maybe "status signaling" in fucking video games?
Especially in singleplayer experiences where nobody should give a shit? What caused this mental retardation?

>>737829230
yes, i called the police already but they refuse to do anything

People like different things, for instance I never upgrade health, most bosses can one shot me and enemies can overwhelm me easily, but for me that's fun, doing everything right, dodging and landing perfect attacks, doesn't matter if it takes me a 100 tries.

>>737829080
Playing elden slop at all is cheating because that game is retard easy. First tried every boss btw. You're not some special elite gaymer for beating babbies first rollslop.

>>737831439
Just FYI your post has been filtered because it contains a forbidden word

>>737828995
I would say it's cheating if he went online to look up some meta shit or where to find obscure items/weapons with the intent of using them to cheese.
But if he legitimately figured that shit out on his own, then he's not cheating.

>>737828915
When you realize you are a faggot that made your game harder just for "gamer cred".

>>737828915
Be glad you have friends who are just as good as you are anon, my friends quit before they finish the games.

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>quit ds1 after 2-3 hours
>beat ds2 and 3 a couple of time
>quit bloodborne after an hour
>gave up on sekiro after 10 hours and then used cheats to complete it
>have played elden ring for +100 hours but will never complete it
>quit lies of p in the robot museum
>quit nioh1 at giant skelly
>quit nioh 2 at the mountain snow prison
>quit rise of ronin after 5-10 hours
>quit wild hearts and wo long after half an hour
now i'm just waiting for nioh 3 and khazan to go on sale

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>>737830897
>That’s a failure of the game, not the player

The moment I realized that I could trivialize any boss battle I uninstalled Elden Ring.
It's either that or die 15 times trying to learn his attack.

>>737831528
>figuring out to use dual bleed katana and comet azur on his own
He definitely watched youtube shorts

I used frost stomp at release because I couldn't find anything that did more damage. Turns out it was bugged.

>>737831862
The great rollslop redpill is that all of the games are just simple knowledge checks at their core. The only reason anyone gets filtered by them is because the tutorials are deliberately vague to mislead the player, otherwise the veneer of being hardcore would instantly fall apart.
Deliberately handicapping yourself is the only way to extract any fun from them once you understand how they work.

>>737831969
Comet azure maybe.
Discovering how powerful bleed is organically is absolutely feasible though. There are bleed weapons all over the place and using one once will be enough to see how absolutely busted as shit they are. I did on my first playthrough when I found the flail and finished the game with the cross-naginata. Discovered frost stomp cheese on my own too.

>>737831969
It's hardly rocket science, anon.
>pick up katana
>realize bleed does mondo damage
>"What if... 2Kat?"
>play sorcerer
>pick up ultimate sorcery your teacher tells you to get
>use it
>it does mondo damage
On my first blind playthrough I went with a sorcery build, and the game basically pushes you onto katana's dicks, especially once you pick up either the meteor blade or moonveil. Elden Ring is not that complex or deep a game that you can't figure out what's good or not within minutes of using it.

>>737828915
Comet Azur is fucking garbage dude
Literally only against Mohg is it good

>>737832524
If you played on release, before both it and the infinite mana tear got nerfed, it was the fuck everything button. Same for stars of ruin, which got castrated hard in some later patch.

>I played a worse build so I played it better
Maybe you're just worse at builds?

>>737832524
You can vaporize Malenia with Comet Azur
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4sGg3Pxtbc

>>737832484
>fast dual weapons with status = ridiculously fast status buildup
Yeah that’s a pretty common rpg staple. Especially if he’s coming from Monhun and uses DB.

>>737828915
Dexterity challenges aren't the only kind of challenge possible in a videogame.
Skill isn't merely mechanical either.

>>737828915
>not using a shield
You completely ruined the best gaming experience anyone could have falling for the roll meme your streamers told you to use.

>>737832653
No because I'm much better than him in POE

>>737828915
You keep making this same thread, nobody cares

>>737830910
Nta but grow the fuck up.

>>737828915
seems like you cheated your build if you actually remember what your weapons are called.

>>737828995
It's not cheating but looking up and using the most OP shit in every game you play is coward behavior.

>>737828915
you are an incredible faggot

Actual cheating:
- going out of bounds
- skipping bosses
- manipulating RNG
- playing with another person

Not cheating:
- using the best equipment available
- using the environment
- manipulating patterns in the AI
- skipping sections without leaving the play area

>>737831847
You won't get past the tutorial, why bother? You obviously don't enjoy them.

>>737829049
>If you want to present yourself as a hardcore skillful gamer
???? Who said this?

>>737828915
idk sounds like you both beat the game in your own way, you sound kinda upset though.

>>737833796
OP, by implying that he's better than his friend and "not a cheater" unlike his friend
can you not read?

Some games have difficulty modes you select at the start of the game, some have difficulty modifiers integrated into the game itself, and some have both. The odd thing is that while everyone understands the decision they made when they picked from easy, normal or hard, some (perhaps even most) people go into denial about the decisons they make using difficulty modifiers in game. Yes, using items in a Platinum game is a fully intended mechanic, you're right, it's fully coded and intended it's not a fucking glitch. Same for flying directly over a level in an old Mario game or summoning help in a Souls game. They are fully intended mechanics - fully intended difficulty modifiers, decisions you make to circumvent or trivialize whatever part is giving you trouble. Nobody cares that you made your game easier, as long as you don't pretend you didn't.

>>737832454
I started out as a samurai playing the coop mod (with the version where everything had 3x the health even if there were only two players btw) and I quickly learned how useful bleed was just by playing the game because it was the only way my friend and I could even do actual damage to the beginning bosses

>>737828915
have you tried getting him to have sex with your wife? most cheaters hate real honest cheating and get so insecure they break out of their programming.

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Friend A:
>friend tries to cheese every game he plays
>tries to lead a boss to a place where he either gets stuck on terrain, or just barely out of aggro range
>throws arrows that deal less than 1% of the boss' HP bar
>will probably stay there for an hour, maybe more
>if he succeeds, he repeats the same tactic on the next boss
>if he fails, he calls the game trash and goes back to his 25th smurf in LoL to stomp silvers
>he does that in every game, Valheim, Dark Souls, Enshrouded, etc
>one time I was at his place, and we decided to play Bloodborne together
>every time one died, he had to pass the controller
>I assume because I stayed alive more than he did, he got semi-mad
>the next day I was at his place, he used a chalice dungeon code to push the character level to 150
>"now I can play the game properly"

Friend B:
>he legit uses cheat engine, console commands, trainers, or mods to make the games easier
>when I say easier, I mean to the point that a kid that can't even read English, would beat them
>he gets mad when he can't mod or exploit co-op games and always wants to be the one hosting to mod them till they are unrecognizable
>he then gets mad when people don't want to play anything with him

I don't know why the friend group and me included, tolerated these retards for so long.

>>737834394
…Uh, no. That’s called playing the game the way it’s intended.
They make the game “easier” in the same way using the jump button in Mario, learning combos in a fighting game, or not playing with your eyes closed is.
It sounds like you struggle to play games correctly and are trying to project that onto others for some reason.

>>737828915
>friend tells me he had an easy time in ER
>shows me his build
>Hoarfrost stomp
>Bloodhound's step
>bleed
>also over lvl 200 by the time he reached Godfrey because he literally explored and did EVERYTHING
He hasn't done the dlc yet but I really want to see him get humbled by it.

>>737835154
People telling you gamers nowadays can't live without guides or looking up shit on wikis aren't lying. Even the biggest normies do it, the number of casuals I've seen rocking moonveil, rivers of blood, or whatever was busted at that time is staggering. It's not believable so many of them stumbled upon these weapons by accident.

>>737835398
>pick up weapon/spell
>use it
>wow big damage
Is the notion of just trying out the shit you find really so unfathomable to you people? Gamers used to figure out broken builds, the most powerful skills/weapons, and all that shit out long before wikis were even a thing. It's really not that hard.

>>737835398
If your game can be completely demolished with a simple google search it’s easy babbyshit.
Simple as.

>>737832748
Nah

>>737832985
wat

Using a guide is microcheating.

>>737835398
In his case I genuinely believe he spammed Bloodhound because its just a cool ability.
the Frost and Bleed though I imagine he googled.

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From cultists are some of the saddest people on the internet, if it's in the game it isn't "cheating". The game would only have KNIGHT MAN and sword as an option if that was the intended way to play lmao

>>737835926
They will genuinely try to argue even using any magic at all is cheating and unintended game design, as if they put fifty shitzillion different spells into the game just for no reason I guess.

>>737836271
Most of time those people do use magic anyway, they just don't count it because "it's just a 20% dmg buff" or weapon enchant

>>737828915
kek, your friend has a more important skill than you: intelligence

you both played a game and he beat it just as you did, and now you're seething

>>737830080
Look, I can find it gay but I won't admonish him for it. It was more fun talking about which he used and why and how than jerking myself off about how I did it solo.

>>737835815
Using a guide is #1 way to sabotage your fun. Instead of, y'know, PLAYING the game, discovering how the mechanics work, playing with them to overcome the challenges and exploring new areas to see what you discover, you get none of that. "Guide says this is optimal build and these are optimal items, I'll use them. Guide says this area doesnt have meta items, I'll just run through it. This area has meta item in hidden corner X, I'll grab it knowing exactly what it is and where. This boss is can be defeated with strategy X, I'll use it". Using guide turns the game just into you being NPC following predetermined instructions.

Cheesing is valid if the trick doesn't involve cheats and is a game mechanic. I cheesed my first Hornet fight by getting the shield, no cheats, no out of bounds, just getting the item.

>>737828915
It doesn't sound like you had much fun if you're using the way you play as some form of personal validation of your sense of self as opposed to the avenue of gameplay that merits the greatest level of entertainment.

>>737832484
Sorcery is easy mode to begin with. I was dumping mondo damage with great glintstone shard and night comet.

>>737835154
>He hasn't done the dlc yet but I really want to see him get humbled by it.
He won't because the DLC got nerfed to shit.

>>737835398
>moonveil
Moonveil is mid and was mid during release.

>>737835595
>If your game can be completely demolished with a simple google search it’s easy babbyshit.
Baba is you is easy babyshit?
Meta and depths are easy babyshit?

>>737828915
Aegis shield was really busted in Lies of P, but I found the wrench head way too slow, so I stuck with greatsword --> not moonlight greatsword. Is wrench actually good?

>>737836429
I beat it faster and with less overall deaths than him even though he used guides and cheat builds tho?

>>737835154
Doing literally everything only takes you to 150ish in the base game at Malenia. Think I was 192 at end of DLC.
Ignoring side stuff hardly makes any level difference.

>>737837963
>It doesn't sound like you had much fun
I had a shitton of fun overcoming challenges like Mohg
My friend just azur comet him in 1 click
Who had more fun?

>>737839928
I think you are obsessed with your friend

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>>737838518
>Sorcery is easy mode to begin with

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>>737828915
You can play however you want but talking shit about the other people is crazy, I remember beating the Nameless King by myself in DaSIII back then and he kicked my ass because of my build, so I then told my friends "the secret boss will kick you ass if you're not prepared", then they just told me a few day later "He was easy as fuck, I just summoned two people who helped me, did it first try", and they just made fun of me because I found him challenging, I told them I did it by myself and they said "Well, multiplayer is part of the experience, so, yeah, he was easy".

Fuck that shit, ridiculing someone else by their playstyle goes both ways, let shitters be shitter but also shitters should shut the fuck up.

>>737840047
You're the one projecting and dicksucking my friend even though you don't know him and I explicitly told everyone ITT that he's terrible at games and looks up guides to ruin his fun.
But because you have some idiotic stupid contrarian sense of justice, you project my friend as an "oppressed" minority that you must dicksuck and defend his honor

>>737840220
No, I mean, you made a thread to talk about him, you sound like a heartbroken girl.

>>737831528
>Game is literally designed to heavily encourage you to look up information online because equipment can be hidden behind some random illusionary rock and unless you grind your ass off you only get enough materials to upgrade 3-4 weapons per playthrough
>"Dude researching stuff online is cheating. You're supposed to discover things naturally, then grind to buy a million smithing stones so you can upgrade each new weapon you find to the level of your current one so then you can accurately compare their damage"
Every single Souls thread gets these retarded "you're meant to figure out things on your own" comments in a game that's completely designed from the ground up so that it's almost impossible to do that. A big reason these games blew up in the first place is that everyone was looking up things online since the game doesn't explain shit besides the basic controls.

I beast Strangers of Paradise without using abilities because Lightbringer reduces maximum mp by 2 bars, and if you die to a boss that's all you have.
Whether it was fun is debatable but the game was a complete joke when I played it using abilities, most of the enjoyment was gone.

>>737840021
There is a flask mixture that negates his ability.

>>737828915
He used an honest build that the game trusted him to find and use. You're a faggot trapped in a closet of your own making.

>>737840674
Your first playthrough should always be without guides

>>737840905
You played on easy

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>>737840674
>>movie is literally designed to heavily encourage you to look up information online because you missed certain plot point relevancies or because a foreshadowed moment was hidden in the background when I was clearly looking in the foreground
have you considered that the game is meant to be played without a guide, and that working with what you have rather than what you want is part of the experience?

>soulsissies still crying about magic when it hasn't been good since DS1 (15 (fifteen) fucking years ago)
crazy

>>737828915
So you're basically saying that the game's gameplay design is garbage, yeah?

>>737842249
idiot

>>737842190
You can one shot most bosses with comet azur

>>737842270
So the devs are idiots for not making an airtight game and allowing shitty playstyles because they are too stupid to balance it?
It's you saying it, not me.
Sounds like a you and a dev problem.

>>737842378
idiot

>>737842410
Insult the messenger all you want, won't change the message much about a shit dev running a shit model.

>i deliberately went out of my way to make the game difficult for myself and my friend didn't therefore he's bad

>>737842314
bosses that can be azured are already trivial. Bleed or colossal weapons are the easy mode

>>737843329
>bosses that can be azured are already trivial
Shut up.
Mohg and Malenia are not trivial
Being a contrarian poser is not a personality

Should u do a dual lighting infusion spear build or a dual clayman spear build (int)

>>737843386
>mohg
OK 1 (one) (uno) boss has bad pathfinding you can exploit. Good luck with DLC bosses faggot
>Malenia
doesn't work on her. She sidesteps the beam

>>737841656
>have you considered that the game is meant to be played without a guide
No, because if it was then Sellen's questline wouldn't you require to find a cellar hidden by illusionary wall in some random ruin. Not getting your health bar nuked by Mohg's phase transition spell wouldn't require you to find a tear in some random church that's in a completely different area that has nothing to do with him. Unlocking Malenia's area wouldn't require you to find some random NPC disguised as a jar that's tucked away in a corner of some small optional area.

>>737828915
I'd ask why you keep making variations of this terrible thread but as I can see you are successfully granted attention for doing so. You should consider stopping anyway before I take additional action.

>>737843602
actually you know what fuck you nigger mohg is easy as fuck too. I killed him before he could even cast NIGIL with my dual omen cleavers (str+bleed). Hate soulstroons for gatekeeping magic from being fun in from games

>>737843602
>>Malenia
>doesn't work on her. She sidesteps the beam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4sGg3Pxtbc

>>737844085
YWNBAJ

>>737828915
wrench on baton handle isn't OP in lies of P unless they rebalanced the whole game when the dlc dropped.

Lies of P has 2 paths, str and dex. Dex is much easier than str, as str requires a big bonk that you can miss, while dex lets you stagger and spam dodges. On top of that wrench and baton are the best for str in the early game only, there are much better weapons later with far better reach, which is important in that game. If you keep it all the way to nameless puppet, while at least 3 other weapon combos outperform it badly, then he did do it the hard way.

Moreover, lies of P is one of those games that pads out content by having you beat it multiple times to up difficulty. Doing additional playthroughs with wrench and baton would be very autistic and hard mode.

>>737844605
It's top 10 broken combinations in P, nigga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q8MC4yUwS8

>>737844605
>as str requires a big bonk that you can miss
Wrench + baton's main skill has insane magnetism. Very hard to miss it

>>737828915
>My friend had fun and is happy
>How do I ruin this for him?
Classic

>>737844691
>top 10

bro there's like 10 str weapons in the whole game. OP's point is that the friend is constantly playing BiS shit, wrench+baton is only BiS in the early game. It does get outperformed by several combos in str alone, without even doing dps comparisons to dex, which at the time I finished the game, were overwhelming towards dex.

>>737844842
>had fun and is happy
How is blasting bosses with cheap combos fun?

>>737828915
A win is a win you try hard faggot. You both accomplished the same thing. If you're the kind of person who actually takes it this seriously, you need to take a moment of self reflection and realize that the people who bullied you in high school were right

>>737844874
It's insanely strong
This is max lvl difficult Arlekino and he gets destroyed by it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUmP4VUkJ6U

>>737844529
kys

>>737828915
>Sour grapes loser crying
Many such cases

>>737844498
>vanilla game
>godly boss rng
>summons
nice cope STRoon

>>737828915
>wrench head on a baton handle
That's not even the nuttiest one.
Dagger head (the normal-damage one) + signpost handle gives crit and damage buff abilities and you can just DPS down damn near everything.

As long as he figured out the method on his own and didn't just look up some OP bullshit combo, it's fine.

>>737828915
holy fucking retard
it's not cheating if it's in the fucking game
if anything you're the fucking dumb one for making the game unnecessarily difficult.
You're the equivalent of some sub 80 iq person unable to figure out basic mechanics.

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>>737828915
>mfw I have several characters in Elden Ring and have a variety of builds with the goal of having fun
I don't understand people that get married to one play style

>>737828915
at least he didn't summon a mimmic

>>737844897
>Anon can't enjoy Devil May Cry
Sad.

>>737840674
Playing through a Souls game blind is not difficult. I don't understand why some people seem so absolutely terrified of the idea that they might miss some content or do something in a sub-optimal way on their playthrough. Yes, you might miss some questlines and upgrade a weapon that isn't top-tier. Who cares? At least it will be your own playthrough, and not one you copied from someone else.

>>737847650
>having several characters instead of one maxed character with access to everything
Imagine needing to load a different save file every time you want to try a different playstyle.

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>>737850505
I've never been into the boring god character. Once you level too much you cease to have a build anymore. It makes the character less unique. I tend to stick with a character for an entire playthrough without deviating from my chosen playstyle.
>just respec
I'm anti respec. Back in DeS through BB there was no respec, so I became accustomed to creating new characters for new builds. I have fun creating them and their backstories. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to do that thoughever.

>>737850093
LoP was so relaxing after Elden Ring. It makes sure you never feel like you are missing stuff. Yet there is just a little bit of extra shit to make it at least feel like you have something to look for. The only thing it was missing were a few different items but the enemy variety was so good that it made up for it. Man what a good game. (and DLC). The quality of life improvements in the DLC really made it perfect (including easy mode)

>>737850093
I feel like elden ring is just so big and timewasting that a guide feels almost necessary. Like the rest of the souls series is relatively easy to navigate but Elden Ring has far, far too much empty space with nothing of value.

This need to beat games in the "correct" way for self-validation might be the saddest shit I see on /v/. Imagine having your confidence so tied up in the completion of entertainement in a spesific way that failing to do so actually shakes a core part value of you as a person. What a fragile existence that must be.

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>>737840061
When I'm dumping thousands of damage from a mile away, it's like shooting fish in a barrel

I used to think soulsissy are friendless losers. But now I know they're just losers.

>>737833031
This, you don't find all the meta stuff in every single game like that naturally.

>>737828915
>getting upset someone beat the game using its systems to the fullest

Maybe you shouldn’t be such a baby back bitch when your challenge run isn’t mandatory.

>>737828915
The only justified reason to be upset is if he were somehow not following previously agreed upon rules. Doesn't sound like he used exploits or glitches or wiggled a cartridge or fired a cosmic ray to hit an electron in the electronics off its intended course or any shit like that either.

>>737828915
Wow you sound like a huge faggot who should consider himself lucky for even having a friend.

Games are meant to be fun, retard. They're not a replacement for real life fucking achievements.

>>737831847
> lies of p
> robot museum
The what? Do you mean the exhibition? That's like 80% of the way through the game

>>737828915
Don't blame him for your inability to escape your self-imposed artificial difficulty.

>>737847650
I just get to an absurd SL so I can switch to a different style any time I feel like.

>>737829379
I did it with DB on my first clear and it was a lot easier than GS
You don't need to worry about timing or anything, that weapon is so braindead

>>737828915
I'd give your friend a pass if he found it organically.
Like an ER wizard will probably figure out Comet Azure/Int Katana if they find them, but your friend sounds like a huge fag that doesn't like figureing shit out on their own, which is half the fun of the games.

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>>737828915
>come on /v/ to whine and seek validation
Not your blog, fuck off. You're a bigger bitch than your friend

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>>737828915
Tell him that his efforts are not even his own. He's merely a vessel for wiki writers.