Games with a similar feel or themes that ARE NOT myhouse.wad??
@grok what themes
>>737835503blue princeMAZE
the only part that could be gamefied is the surviving the changing layout of the house, and i can't think of any games that do that.the narrative structure is also 3 simultaneous layers, and i've never seen that done in vidya either
>>737835503i always thought a survival game about the research/exploration team that goes in to map the house would be a decent idea for a game.
>>737835503This is the one that tries messing with page layouts, right?In that case I'd recommend Antichamber, and Jazzpunk. Some of the more bullshit-oriented text adventures might also match like Bureaucracy.There's also a decent amount of visual novels that go really hard into the whole medium meta thing, though of the top of my head I can't think of any good ones
>>737835503Control
>>737835503As somebody said Control, but Alan Wake 2, especially the Lake House DLC dips absurdly hard into it. To the point they get Danielewski's sister, Poe, to compose a track for it.
>>737835503Antichamber
Meet 'N' Fuck franchise, for the Truant sections
>thread about the 1 book I'm reading in forever because a friend recommended it to me and let me borrow hisWhat the fuck. Get out of my head
I'm only like, a quarter in, but I like the Truant sections more than the Navidson sections at the moment. That guy's a mess and reading it is so fun.
el just in case?
This book feels like the most schizophrenic thing ever written. Like, what the fuck can anyone even understand, let alone comprehend what is going on?
the fuck i just got this book
>>737835503>it's a zampano level
>>737839176>Zampano ults>"How about you take a page out of MY book"
>>737835503pretentious games? I guess /v/ knows about many of them.
>>737839176Why did you post a screenshot of Doom 3
>>737835563I'm sorry, pls gibe monie poor shit
>Mission Objective: Don't spill spaghetti in front of Thumper
>>737840207Johnny would definitely have a fingerless gloves and semen meter on his HUD
>>737835503House of Leaves fags and Lolita tards could literally just meet in the middle at Pale Fire and avoid all the larper accusations, but the never fucking will because the accusations are true.
I think a Johnny life-sim would be very entertaining without even getting into the mindfuckery of the Navidson record
i hate how every little thing i find and love 10 years before anyone else has heard of it eventually becomes super popular and people shit all over it
>>737841616>russian tv>that whole comic[llama sounds]>your post[llama sounds intensify]Tempora mutantum.
>>737835701>Narrative LayersThe only one I can think of is Returnal. >Power Fantasy (Act 1)>Nightmare (Act 2)>Reality (Act 3)
So was any of it real? Wasn't it all just the delusions of his mother or something?
>>737835563mommy issues
>>737838502for most people it is the opposite
>>737843281Either Zampano, Johnny, or the mother wrote everything
>>737835503Void Stranger.
>>737843281I used to think this until realizingthe book and the house are mechanisms that fictionalize what is real, and realizes what is fictional. for example, this is why Johnny can never physically locate the house. He never existed, until the book made him real, which was reverted when he burnt the book. Whereas Navidson was real, until moving into the house where he became fictionalized, which was again reverted when he also burnt the book.
>>737835503myhouse.pk3
>>737835503This book is so shit. The house story was ok, but everything about Jonny is pure trash
meta themes are always, always catastrophically garbage by the end
>>737843281Johnny was real. Zampano was real. All the movie critic shit is a story and the house was a fake movie the fake critics were analyzing
>>737838437It's a really popular book, anon. Anyway, enjoy.
>>737844294Only if they go for the low blow of trying to "go after" the consumer. There's a lot of ways to do meta other than that.
>>737844324I found it hard to believe Zampano was real. Also I didn't really believe Johnny was as functional as he claimed to be (e.g. going to work / fucking women) at the height of his psychosis.
>>737844424That's what the people inside my walls want me to think. Thanks tho
>>737843831That is a pretty good interpretation anon
>>737844471>Also I didn't really believe Johnny was as functional as he claimed to be (e.g. going to work / fucking women) at the height of his psychosis.Welcome to early 2000s """antihero""" archetypes. Who would totally struggling alcoholic burnouts, but never seemed to have to worry about how they paid for their apartments or failed to fuck hot women.It's not deep, it's just shit writing.
>>737844821Projecting, this is 100% a (You) skill issue
>>737843831lol
>>737844993>It's a (You) problem for having discerning taste Sorry Anon, I read good books
Real fiction coming through
>>737841616This book has never not been popular. HoL was made out to be the next best thing since Infinite Jest, until people rightfully realised it was just gimmicky and poorly written. As is evident by the fact there is zero critical discussion of this book in literary circles. It got a second wind years ago when sloptuber essayist somehow got their grubby mits on it. Personally think it's a rare case of the games inspired by it mogging the source material.
>>737845513ive had this on my radar for a few months now but i kinda completely forgot why i even wanted to read it. qrd?
>>737845204>>Chud reads book that is almost entirely about things that should not be real, appearing to be real.>>Somehow hungup on the most mundane of details, a guy with a drinking problem having multiple sex partners.Embarrassing.
>>737839000it helps to speak English as a primary language
>>737835503Clean your nasty thumbnail
>>737835503Slay the Princess>inb4 not a game faggot
>>737836967>spoilerWhat the fuck, that's neat. I never got around to playing 2 but I guess I have to soon.
>>737845513Read this a few months before House of Leaves and it does the encyclopedic novel thing leaps better. I kept thinking about how I would probably have been less harsh had I read it in opposite order. HoL is still incredibly whatever feeling though.
>>737845742Post your last 5 and I guarantee Gatsby and Catcher in the Rye are on it. Your 8th grade literacy is not my problem
>>737845716A novel about tennis, addiction, hypothetical geopolitics, film, naivety, a cult of handicapped québécois assassins, and the pursuit of happiness in America. It is 1100 pages long and very funny
B3313
>>737835701>changing layout of the houseDishonored 2 has a level that does that but it's not about survival
>>737841616We're not in 2016.
>>737835876Antichamber is the GOAT, came here to say this but you beat me to it. The atmosphere in this game is god like and if you play patiently and get immersed it's transcendental
>>737845513REAL fiction coming through
>>737839000>the most schizophrenic thing ever writtenyou are like a little baby
i started this book but got bored when it decided to stop being a novel and be an academic paper instead
>>737846172>south american """""literature"""""
>>737846149it was published in 2000i read it probably around 2010and it has became increasingly popular the last 6 years or so
>>737846172I saw there's a "new" film adaptation on Netflix. Is it worth watching or do you really need to read it?
>>737846304wait shit he was mexican. let me amend that to>latin american """"literature""""
>>737835503I have such a strong HoL fatique by now. Don't zoomers read(watch video essays about) anything else?
>>737835503A house of many doors
>>737846206Hello, fellow /lit/ god. Bottom's Dream notice'd.
People complain about the sloptube books pipeline but I don't really mind it since it got me back into the habit of reading (with Blood Meridian).Is House of Leaves only able to be fully appreciated with a physical copy or is a digital copy functionally the same?
>CTRL-F "Abiotic Factor">0 resultsreally?
>>737846564Get a physical copy if you can, the book's format works best as something tangible.
>>737846564Need physical, yeah. The formatting is a huge part of it and cannot be rendered in an e-book. It's ok. Not amazing, but fun enough; don't expect to have your life changed.
>>737845513>>737846172The true and honest real fiction hath entered
>>737841616I read House of Leaves over 15 years ago because my friend who went to prison said it was really popular with the inmates there, and he described it to me and I thought it sounded awesome so I bought it and read it. House of Leaves has always been popular. It's just that books outside of whatever YA and smut that women are reading aren't really "popular" compared to something like video games.
>>737845513I'm avoidant of this just because David Foster Wallace is like, THE stereotypical pseud douchebag.
>>737846304Once you hit Uni, they'll teach you how to actually read
>>737846886The type of "lit bro" that might've existed in the '90s and early '00s is long extinct, but people keep seething about this imaginary issue. People who'll never read the book; it is really good. Its views on addiction and the ways we hide from sincere connection through irony and dependency are wonderful. Please give it a go.
>>737846341That's crazy, but I have no idea. I'd read it. It's short. It's about hopelessness and attachment to "home"
>>737845513reddit book
>>737847025Okay, but just because they went extinct doesn't mean they weren't annoying jackasses. Just because I can dig up dinosaur bones today doesn't mean they weren't reptiles.I accept that the book is probably great. I've just also seen a lot of interviews with David Foster Wallace, and he's a fucking faggot. I don't want to participate in the propagation of his celebrity status because he's a prick, and I don't want him to be a role model.
Wild people on here are way more snobbish than on /lit/. Guess if you've only finished 3 books since high school, you gotta make it count.
>>737847135It's a book. It is not DWF. This is the biggest issue separating the currently feuding generations: the ability to accept ideas before passing moral judgement.
>>737846780I actually haven't read this one, but it sounds..... Mildly intriguing? Sell me on it? I'm exchange, I'll recommend pic related:>A book about human philosophies of death and how our relationship with it has changed throughout history. How our understanding of death shapes our understanding of life, etc etc, told through the lives of an ensemble cast where everyone is miserable despite their not recognizing their unhappiness. How death touches all of their lives in different ways and how those touches change their outlook on the lives they have left.
>>737847207/lit/'s reputation led to its downfall. It's been unusable for years. I loved it, but it's not worth it, anymore.
>>737847207>way more snobbish than on /lit/.Now you're just making shit up
Roguelikes
>>737847246the recognitions is first and foremost a novel about authenticity - both in the literal sense (a lot of art forgery goes on) and the metaphorical sense (i.e. not being a sellout). gaddis asks if any piece of art can be considered a true original product, direct from the soul - and if not, does it matter? he has a brilliant sense of conversation, the dialogue is undoubtedly the best in american fiction.i'll keep an eye out for the knausgaard - i've always been vaguely intrigued by his work but generally clueless
>>737847297Never seen a /lit/izen whip out Arno Schmidt in an escalating series of try-hard one-upmanships to prove they’re above reading HoL
>>737843281Johnny is real. His mother is real. Everything else is written by Johnny as a cope. The House is the "physical" manifestation of his drifting relationships told via the Navidson family.
>>737847297/lit/ in current year is very dilettantish. the only things on that board that generate traffic are /sffg/ (and derivatives) and dogshit /his/ threads. everything else gets roundly ignored (except that one gaddis thread that was up for like 2 months but it sucked ass anyhow)
>>737846057i appreciate the qrd even if its a little reddit
I've tried reading fancy smart high level literature enough to finally accept I'd rather just be entertained by tales about spaceships, dragons or cops and criminals and if that makes me a dumb pleb then I'm ok with that
>>737847587for one, it was not a series. the guy said "house of leaves is the craziest novel" and i said "yeah but this one is crazier"for two, it was not intended as a putdown. i was just showing him what's out there. not everything is that serious
>>737847626It's 95% threads seething about women and asian diaspora lit. /v/ is unironically more discerning now.
>>737847459>gaddis asks if any piece of art can be considered a true original product, direct from the soul - and if not, does it matter?This is the bit that seemed like it could be where the most merit is. I'll toss it on the list, thanks anon.>he has a brilliant sense of conversation, the dialogue is undoubtedly the best in american fiction.This is where I start getting worried about books, because there are so many (Edith Wharton, E.M. Forster, etc) who have absolutely wonderful word choice and beyond dogshit narrative structure. Beautiful, beautiful, scenery descriptions and conversations floundering in a puddle of Fucking Nothing Happening.Do you enjoy more modern books, or older ones? Ruth Ozeki has some good work (Book of Form and Emptiness was an emotionally visceral read), but if you prefer older work, As I Lay Dying (Faulkner) is pretty GOATed
>>737847587>to prove they’re above reading HoLWhy? Anyone who reads beyond middle school is already past HoL. That's like people trying to convince each other than have the ability to detect nuance in film media beyond Daniel Tiger. Like no shit, I hope so
>>737847227Counterpoint; when people say they're IN traffic, they ARE traffic.You telling me to read this guys shit means you ARE marketing, and this guy's book & ideas are the product.It doesn't matter why I don't like him. I just don't, and I'm under no obligation to give him a chance when he's a douche, because my participation in his "fandom" signal boosts a man I dislike. I'm not doing that. David Foster Wallace is a dickhead faggot, and I'm not participating in propagating his celebrity.No. Not reading it. Sorry. I'm not going to become a marketing vector for someone I dislike.
>want to play myhouse.wad>all youtube videos are furfags talking about the game...oh
>>737839000>This book feels like the most schizophrenic thing ever writtenThat would be Finnegans Wake.Written by a literal schizophrenic, who was first an extremely accomplished, genius author who knew multiple languages, and who loved women's farts.
>>737847987But you dislike him for his reputation among others who only dislike him for similarly recursive reasons.
>>737847626/lit/ seems like a more hopeless board compared to /v/.Video games have only been around for 50 years and there is an overwhelming focus on recent releases.By which I mean: we can all talk about games because we've all played them (or are at least aware of them). I can bring up God of War, Ikaruga, or Star Craft and you're all gonna at least know what I'm talking about.With literature, you're talking about a hundred thousand releases every year for 600 fucking years (or whenever language drift makes the world inaccessible).I could go on /lit/ right now and make a thread about Hands of Time, The Forgotten Trade, The Serviceberry and I don't have confidence I'll get responsea from anyone whose read them.Hell, I would expect more traction here for things like Sacred and Terrible Air than I would /lit/. At some level I just think it's a volume problem
>>737848107I maintain Finnegans Wake was a joke that people now pretend to take seriously.
>>737848334I don't think it's a joke. I don't pretend to be able to understand it, but there are definitely glimmers of something in there even for retards like me. And I can't help but shake the feel of constant sexual innuendos and allusions even though I can't even pinpoint why I think that. It seems like there is pretty much always the undertone of sex beneath whatever is happening (though I usually can't tell what is happening), but maybe I'm just projecting.
>>737848157Don't tell me what a think, faggot, especially when I already told you I've watched interviews with him. That was literally the fourth sentence I said to you. That's why I said I dislike him; not based on his fucking reputation, but because he has a lot of interview content and media based around his celebrity where, guess what, he's a fucking asshole.It doesn't get any less based on "reputation" than that. I think he's an uppity prick, based on his OWN words and behavior. Sorry he's a hero to you or whatever.
>>737846304So this is the power of the American education system.
>>737847714Try His Majesty's Dragon.It's Master & Commander but Jack Aubrey finds a dragon egg aboard a Spanish vessel and then the Napoleonic Wars happen... But with Dragons.
Did you guys read between two fires? They told me it was the dark souls of books
>>737847831Just found it bemusing. Glad we're setting the record straight on not so serious things.
>>737848610It's Berserk.Red Rabbit was the same book but better (and a western)
>>737841616m8 it's a fucking bestseller
what's some good sci fi that's like a good balance between>basically fantasy but in spaceand>expects you to be a physics or philosohpy phd
I enjoyed the stormlight archives but found wind and truth to be mid.
>>737848865i gave up after owthbringer
>>737846886DFW comes off like that because that's the exact kind of person he was throughout most of is his life. He described himself in university as a "hyper-educated amateur avant-garde writer" or something like that, but most of his work criticizes and makes fun of that exact kind of person.
>>737846057>Handicapped québécois assassinsI'm sold.
>>737848865Stormlight would be good if every book was at least 300 pages shorter because that's how much pointless bloat there is in each of themI suppose he wanted to do something more serious than Mistborn and that's ok but that doesn't mean every book now needs to be 1200 pages of nothing happening until the very end
>>737847898i tend to trend towards the older? i haven't read very much work in the 21st century, but i am partial to the (post)modernists. you mentioned faulkner, whom i adore (absalom, absalom is fucking genius) - but on my view, i wouldn't consider the modernists as being old.i'll keep an eye out for ozeki - she seems neat
>>737848843Stanislaw Lem or Philip K. Dick. I liked The Futurological Congress. I also highly recommend The Book of the New Sun. It's very well written and is /lit/ approved, or at least it was when I used to go to /lit/. It's a "dying earth" series, where it's so far into the future that civilizations have come and gone and left technology behind and things like that. It's basically traditional fantasy for the most part (for a while), but it takes place in a scifi capable world and is a nice blending of the two. It doesn't expect you to have a PhD, but there are tons of things that you can easily miss if you are not paying attention, and the series has such a large scope that reading it a second time completely recontextualizes a lot of things.
>>737835503Rayuela
>>737835503i tried to make something that followed it a little bit but it was for a gamejam and my lead programmer was gone for 3/4 of it so it ended up being super crusty, made me sad
>>737849304>Stanislaw Lemname is familiar, wasn't there a videogame based on one of his books recently?
It's amazing how /v/ is consistently much better at discussing anything other than videogames than discussing videogames
>>737838437Its not a good book. When I was buying it the cashier told me it was his favourite. I dont get the fanfare at all. It was a decade ago and I never read another book again... because kindle is superior.
>>737849581Videogame sectarians and schizos don't engage with other media so they don't know how to engage in these threads, it happens on all boards with their respective themes.
>>737849529I don't know. I think a lot of scifi media has Lem or Dick DNA in it.
>>737848843Not Isaac Asimov. The Foundation Series was the biggest letdown of a book series in my life. I deluded myself into thinking all these concepts and plot points and technologies were building up to a big reveal, and when the big reveal comes out it's actually some completely fucktarded random off-the-wall magic alien planet that brainwashes people. Oh, the autistic mind-controlling dictator that got outplayed? He was actually just part of the magic alien planet. The Foundation? It was the magic alien planet behind it. The Foundation Foundation? Yep, magic aliens were controlling them the whole time. Absolute bastard writer, builds up this cool long-term, multi-generational concept and then blows it all on the dumbest fucking twist ever.
>>737848610Yes, and it was the Dark Souls of books. Its just was not as good as Dark Souls but still a B+.The Book of the New Sun scratched that itch better for me, but its a much much more difficult read.
>>737848843Exhale is the third best book I ever read behind Brothers Karamazov and the hobit. It hits your mark.Alastair Reynolds and Greg Eagan just for the latter. All short stories.Plus Blindsight for smartest book of all time.
>>737850229>Exhaleby troon joel abernathy or you mean another novel called exhale?am I being baited?
>>737849304Second this, thats the answer.Except Philip K dick. DADoES is an absolute goat but the other 4 books I read of him are so painfully mid. How he is the biggest writer in Hollywood off production costs is insane to me. That said hes my hero for that, and the fact he left his family at age 36 to live with street kids, do drugs, and fuck 16yrolds.
>>737850021Gene Wulfe is like playing a hard game with cheats on. It seems like it should be difficult, but then you breeze through it anyways because of his sexy prose, his obscure word love doesn't matter as he will generally explain everything around said word so well that you understand it better than if you looked it up, and his deeply nettled secret overarching plots aren't a problem since there are so many of them you'll pick up on a few, and those that you miss will probably end up explained later anyways, and you won't forget his characters even if they're brought up again 1000 pages, two books later since they're all hilarious retards that burn well into memory.
>>737850364https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41160292-exhalationGlad you corrected me.
I feel like a pleb, since high school I've hardly ever been able to finish a book. The only one I actually liked enough to get through was The Stranger a couple years back. It's hard to justify reading when I have such a busy life, does anyone have any shorter recommendations that are worth it? I want something that'll stick with me.
>>737850473>Gene Wulfe is like playing a hard game with cheats onkek that is actually a pretty good analogy
Remember last time tranny janny deleted this thread.
>>737839000>the most schizophrenic thing ever writtenLet me introduce you to Hybrid.https://web.archive.org/web/20071014102242/http://philippe.tromeur.free.fr/hybrid.htm
>>737850506>does anyone have any shorter recommendations that are worth it? I want something that'll stick with me.The Old Man and the Sea is a classic and it's short. The Prophet is a collection of short stories that I read while at an Ayahuasca retreat, and I felt like it was pretty good. I think there are a lot of good nuggets in there, but I was not at baseline so my perception of it might have been skewed.
>>737838437You are the main character and we live in your head
>>737836029>>737836967These two are your best bet OP
>>737850506Slaughterhouse Five
>book threadI'm reading the Silmarilion atm. It feels like I'm reading the New Testament with how anal they are about genealogy. Also there was a lot of yapping about Findolfin, but man, my man Faenor Gothmog was kino
>>737850506Enders Game. Its my book for everyone. Easy read, entertaining, and very smart. Just make sure if you like it not to read the second one.https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/375802.Ender_s_Game
>>737850506spend less time on the internet, nigga> good short bookwell, the stranger certainly sticks with you, camus writes some sad shithow about something lighter that you can't put down until you're done?
>>737850908Such a great book. All his shit is top tier.
>>737850908I hate Kurt Vonnegut so much, especially Slaughterhouse Five. Have this old meme I made for /lit/ like a decade ago.
>>737850908i was about to post thisvonnegut books are short, can carry some emotional weight, imaginative, and funnycat's cradle is another great one.>>737851024read galapagos recently, and it's pretty mediocre.
>>737839176Eventually I stopped reading the footnotes and just read the Navidson Report as it this were the book.
>>737851035Why?
>>737843771Come to think of it, yeah.
>>737850506The shortest I can recommend are Of Mice and Men, and Roadside Picnic, both comfy misery in their own ways. Strangely, everything else I've read and enjoyed was like 900 pages minimum, a few well into the thousands of pages, lol.
>>737851096I think the image explains it pretty well.
>>737851123You hate the book, because you saved an image someone else made on a different board, 10 years ago, collecting tattoos of people that were effected by a reoccurring line in the novel?
>>737848773Every book ever printed has "New York Times bestseller" stapled on it
>>737850506i should have read this back in high school
>>737851035Breakfast of Champions is great tho
>>737851196>you saved an image someone else made on a different boardI made that image.
>>737851238ah, I misread. you didn't really address the meat of my post though
>>737848843Blindsight is a nice mix of scientifically plausible things and nonsense.
>>737849808I just read the last book and enjoyed it.
>>737848843three body problem booksexcept that if you actually know physics, the premise of the entire series is fucking retardedbut that's ok because it's super entertaining (and depressing)
>>737851338https://youtu.be/VkR2hnXR0SM?si=3yZNgZF_40_wHHWN
>>737838502>>737843609Anyone who brushes off Johnny's segments is a fucking idiot, it's the through-line of the book and far and away the one thing that kept me coming back to the end. I like the Navidson Record, but it very much is taking the piss out of bloated documentary slop and there are moments when it leans very far into it; that's not to say it doesn't often work out in the book's favor (I got a good laugh out of guys like Jay Leno, Letterman and Stephen King giving the book props near the end; "le jeu est fini - nous somme fucked" is one of the best quotes ever put to paper) but you do get sick of hearing about fucking Karen and Will's bullshit or another footnote that's going down half the page. Johnny, conversely, has pretty much no filler - even the stuff that you think is bullshit comes back in satisfying manners, and his journey is very much what gives the NR any sort of meaning at all. I'd get into spoiler talk, but you're only a quarter of the way through, so I'm not gonna get into the heavy shit - all of this is to say I love the Truant segments, it's insane how overshadowed they are by the Navidson Records.Was on the toilet reading the end of the book and Johnny beating up Gdansk Man got me to jump a good four feet into the air off my seat desu
>>737851419I liked it till the end. That alien Dues Ex machina was gay as fuck.
>>737851419>if you actually know physicsi would say i know more physics than the average guy but not so much that I would spot clear nonsense if it was presented clevelry enough
>>737851343I only got a few paragraphs into the final book and had a kneejerk reaction, felt like it was going straight into the self-insert fetish zone with the unashamedly sexy brainwashing girl, really did not like that they carried over characters from book-to-book since a big part of the gimmick was a new set of characters in a new age dealing with yesterday's problems. Is it similar to how my tarded, intentionally ignorant rant would suggest, or is it actually about as good as the rest of the series? Maybe I'll pick it up again.
What's some cyberpunk lit I should check out once I finish neuromancer
>>737851292>you didn't really address the meat of my post thoughYou were doing that shitposter thing where you blatantly ignore what I say and construct your own head canon to argue against. I'm gonna be honest, I don't really quite remember. It was at least 10 years ago, maybe even closer to 15. I made that image in one of those "read, expect, got" threads because I had just read it and I fucking hated it. /lit/ really liked that book at the time, and the title sounded cool, so I read it. Those are a bunch of images pulled from Pinterest and probably Tumblr, and notice how they're like all girls. Not that there's anything wrong with a girl liking a book, but I just think that's who the book appeals to. Pinterest girlies. Kinda like the only people who are obsessed with the holocaust are also hipster girlies. There is no better encapsulation of my thoughts on Slaughterhouse Five than that image, since I made it right after I read the book. I really don't even remember much about it other than "So it goes" and an onomatopoeia of a bird chirping and then the made up aliens. I think the message was hallucinations due to war or something, I don't really remember, but I remember some place got bombed or burned down, and I just don't really care about a shitty book made as commentary on the effects of war.
>>737851593the big snag is that the three body problem has no general closed form solution, but that doesn't preclude one from accurately modeling the three body problem far into the future (with observations to correct modeling error)
>>737851693Snow Crash. After you've read it, you can proudly say you've gone through every worthwhile cyberpunk title.
>>737835503b3313
>>737851746This was a very gay reply and represented your image well
>slaughterhouse fiveI had to read that for a uni class, but instead of reading it I wrote my essay based on sparknotes and summarized versions and whatnotI got through uni not actually reading almost any of the required books and now I regret it
>>737851854i love snow crash.the first chapter or two really ought to be it's own short.
>>737851746Based and hatepilled
>>737851637It was one of my first science fictions. I have heard it was a let down from fans. Being a 15 yrold comming in late though, it was good. I dont remember it at all though except how issolated the advanced species was. That stuck with me for some reason.
>>737851892>no uSo it goes.
>>737851916mostly doing a disservice to yourself there, ladgo and read it now, nothing stopping you
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>>737851938kek
>>737851938Kek, I was going yo write the EXACT same thing.
>>737851916Same. I never read any assigned reading books except for the ones I actually wanted to read. Back in the day, sparknotes were only physical books that you had to purchase, so I didn't even do sparknotes, I just used my context clues and I was a decent writer, so I usually passed the pop quizzes and I always passed the essay portions because you can just nebulously talk about whatever the assigned prompt was, because it's obvious what they want to hear, and you can weasel your way into a "correct" essay by speaking to where the leading question is going.
>>737851918I'm ashamed to admit that it took me more than a few paragraphs to realize it was a complete shitpost of a book.
>>737851953I know, thats why I said I regret itI think maybe back then wasn't the right time for me to actually appreciate those novels, I wasn't quite there as far as mental maturity goes
>>737835503Have you tried that doom mod? Can't remember what it's called.
>>737852051my brother enjoyed it too, mainly because it is a shit post, but then towards the end he started fucking hating it because he happened to be studying ancient dead near east languages at the time and knew sumarian far better than the author. he's probably like the 0.000000001% of readers that felt that way.>>737852056part of maturing is being exposed to new ideas
>>737846156This picture is making me upset.
>>737848843Ian M Banks. Check out The Player of Games
>>737852040Yeah, I basically bullshitted my way through those classes just by being good at writing like I knew what I was talking aboutI was even tempted to write my thesis about how academic writing is a load of pretentious bullshit focused on using pointlessly big words and complex grammar while saying basically nothing just to seem very smart, but I thought that wouldn't really fly
>>737850908I liked Cat's Cradle immensely in HS, maybe I'll give it a shot>>737851218Oh shit I haven't read this but I really should
>>737852280both are terrific novels
>>737852051NTA, but as soon as I read "Hiro Protagonist" I already knew what was up.
>>737851854Unironically the most accurate depiction of America's future even though he was just taking the piss out of the whole retarded genre. Maybe a little too optimistic, with that quote about how we've outsourced everything away but are still the best at music, movies, computer programs, and pizza delivery. In reality, the entertainment industry is in the toilet, while jeets ruined the tech industry and food delivery biz. Funny enough though, the book is full of smelly brown foreigners everyone hates but they're Tajikistanis called 'jeeks.'
I want to rape a vampire girl
>>737844179Cheeky fucker
>>737852407>Franchise-Organized Quasi-National Entitiesi want to live in a mr lee's
>>737852456I want a vampire girl to rape me
>>737846886>>737845513I tried it. It reads like a not so subtle satire of authors and readers
>>737843609That's not surprising, most people suck.
>>737835503I liked this one.https://store.steampowered.com/app/265690/NaissanceE/
>>737835503Lost in Vivo. Not so much the impossible geometry, but it specifically fucks with you.
i only ever read two books in my whole 35 years of lifeharry potter and the philosopher stonethe stranger (by camus)
>>737852803How are you 35 and you only read the first Harry Potter? How did you not read all of them? How did you never read Redwall? I feel bad for zoomers. They don't have Harry Potter; they have the movies. Brian Jacques is dead. I have no idea how a zoomer is supposed to get into reading. Scrolling Twitter and Reddit and 4chan does not convert into opening a book (or Kindle) and reading.
>>737852803get off the fucking internet and go to the local public biblio
>>737835503I think the closest thing will be those 'liminal' games where you just wander around in nonsensical, endless environments.And man, this book sucks
>>737851746isn't the entire point of the book a refutation of the alien's passive observation of the timeline? your meme isn't a criticism of the book at all, just some chicks who heard the line out of context and liked it.
>>737835503Any pretentions indie "horror" game that's actually about depression or some shit.
>>737852858by the time hp came here they were already making movies, and i lost interest quickly. I've always been more into vidya and manganever heard of redwallalso i have partial aphantasia, i don't like overtly descriptive books (fucking hate tolkien and martin, i tried those too)
The only books I read were from school. The required ones, I mean. I don't mean the textbooks.
>>737852960>by the time hp came here they were already making moviesAhhh, okay. I'm basically the same age you are, and they came out pretty much as I was those ages, and the movies didn't exist yet.
>>737853046i'm not from the uk. Maybe they came a few years before but they were underground. They exploded with the movies. That's how i learned about them
>>737835503easy peas, you can play it right nowhttps://grantmoyer.github.io/mt-moon/
lolseeing all these retarded anons who've read maybe one or two books in their lives, I'm starting to understand better why voice acting is so highly valued in games, even though it’s such a stupid and immersion-breaking thing.
>>737848843Stanislaw Lem, Philip K. Dick, Greg Egan, Gene Wolfe, Ted Chiang, Stugratsky Brothers, Hannu Rajaniemmi, Peter Watts, and even if people here will disagree i don't give a fuck: China Mieville.
>>737853135Is it possible to get out of this?
>>737835503YIIK and anthology of the killer
>>737853287Anthology of the Killer is so fucking good. It has quickly become a favourite of mine.
>>737852280Another good one by Vonnegut is Player Piano.
>>737853135Based and blackout-pilled.
>>737849581This is an usual 4chan phenomenon. You can get decent discussion on virtually any topic at all EXCEPT if is on its own board. /sp/ is better /v/, /lit/ is better /x/, /tv/ is better /pol/ and /his/, /r9k/ is better /mu/, /mu/ is better /a/, and /v/ is the real /b/ where you can get absolutely any kind of meaningful discussion /v/ about whatever AS LONG as is not about videogames. Now...What the fuck causes this?
>>737850971I couldn't stomach reading all that shit with my eyeballs. I had to take the audiobook pill.I loved the the Turin sequence. Watching him constantly chimp out and ruin his own life time and time again while his dad watches on from the cosmic cuck chair in Angband was kino.
>>737849808>Imagination and magic is actually what's behind everything. Even science. Based author. He knew what's up.
Games for this feel?
What was the last book you read, anon? Be honest. i haven't read any 'real major literature' since i left highschool and been living off LNs and slop ever since
I refuse to read shit like House of Leaves and Infinite Jest purely because the people who are always glazing and recommending it are faggots and trannies.
>>737851693Read the rest from Gibson.
>>737853506War and Peace
>>737853430>Now...What the fuck causes this?awful board culture manipulating and poisoning minds for years. The spell wanes and people become sane again when they don't talk about its main topic
>>737853430I'm guessing people outside their "home boards" are less likely to resort to board-specific tropes so when they visit, they talk more like normal people and less like the board regulars. Or board regulars just /can't/ employ the usual shitposting patterns in offtopic threads.
>>737853496Spielberg really looked at this shit and said "Yes, I need to make this movie."
>>737853506Re-read A Far Rainbow by the Strugatskys. The ending doesn't feel as depressive now as it did when I first read it, but it's still not a very happy book.
>>737853696spielberg stopped making good movies well before you were born.
This was a good thread anons, I got a bunch of stuff to read from itThanks to jannies for not nuking it thus far, be it out of incompetence or because they too like to discuss literature
>>737853506I have ascended to reading short fiction published in decades-old pulp magazines. Lots of garbage to sift through but also a treasure trove of cool shit.
>>737853371I never could finish it.
>>737853492Yes
>>737853506Memoirs of Casanova. It's one-third learning interesting things about life in the 1700s, one-third people being insane retards and one-third Casanova fucking/raping/simping. Truly the original lolcow, almost entirely self-documented.
>>737853496What the fuck is this?Shitpost making fun of normalfags?
>>737853762Wrong!
>>737853506House of Leaves somehow, borrowed it from someone. Before that was The Sailor Who Fell From Grace With the Sea and I just started Spring Snow today.
>>737853506I recently finished the Idiot. It was good. It's comfy, feels like an anime. All those big old novels feel like they could be anime to me. Les Miserables did actually get a manga, and a damn good one at that. I don't know what I'll read next. Maybe I'll check out The Familiar because of this thread, and because i'm looking to get a dog.
>>737853893old nigger alert samebut yeah, I think AI was the moment he stopped making truly great movies. the conspiracy theorist in me buys into what's been said about Kubrick. Maybe eating his idol and not absorbing his soul like was promised by his jewish cabal's teachings made him lose his mojo. also his dick probably stopped working completely around that time, and the guy was a bigtime kid fucker.
>>737835503Backrooms?
>>737853496My friend gave me this book years ago. I'm worried it's some kind of memetic hazard, should I read it?
>>737853430Our opinions on video games are more rigid. If someone shits on a book I liked I'm not going to defend it. They may even persuade me. If someone shits on my favorite video game then I'm probably just going to call them an idiot.
>>737835503Lobotomy Corporation>deliberate obtuse on the surface, but easy to understand how to parse once you're used to it>unreliable narrators>use of a physical space as an allegory for the mind>story ultimately about trauma, grief, connections, and forgiveness
>>737853506Last book I finished was Pale Fire, last year. I've been reading through Crime and Punishment slowly over the past few months.
I know people meme about 'unnecessary sex scenes' a lot nowadays but I swear half of every Johnny chapter is just that
>>737835503saw a youtuber put this on his list of most depressing books.tried reading a few bits and i didn’t get that impression
>>737854073>the idiotI just pulled Crime and Punishment off my shelf to read like 5 minutes ago
>>737853506i read pandora's star like 11 years ago. i kind of forget most of it but i remember liking it enough to want to pick up the sequel, which my nearby bookstore didn't have.
>>737853506Just finished A Clockwork Orange. It's even filthier than the movie.
>>737850793Funny, he's also the main character of the book he's reading.
>>737853506The StrangerYes, it was in preparation for canto 10
>>737853506Ferdydurke.I read through all Agatha Christie stories before that, it was fun
>>737835503I have this on my inbound stack right fucking now but I started reading fucking gene wolfe. I recommend piranesi and palimpsest. I was in a labyrinth binge for a while. Someone needs to make a mystery dungeon game with an overarching like Mystery to be solved. Shit it seems like the easiest roguelike digital devolver pitch ever.
>>737835701>the narrative structure is also 3 simultaneous layersI like this idea. Layer 1 could be like a walking sim around a seemingly normal house. Layer 2 could be a Mystery Dungeon game set in the seemingly normal house. Layer 3 would be a VN found in magic scrolls in the mystery dungeon. Hints for all layers would be spread among the 3 different ones with cheeky working across all the layers. >>737843236>Power Fantasy (Act 1)>Nightmare (Act 2)>Reality (Act 3)Layer 2 should be the power fantasy as you find cool jenk shit seen in all mystery dungeon games. Layer 3 should be the feigned nightmare scenario where as a VN in magic scrolls you feel like you have limited control of what happens.Layer 1 should be "Reality" where it's the actual nightmare. nearly 90% of the layer 1 gameplay in the seemingly normal house should be based in reality with the twist being that the entity which is the house in all three layers are occuring so monsters of the mystery dungeon are chasing you in the house the scares of the VN happen too but all of that is saved for the end which unfortunately would be like a big setpiece and budget crunch.
>>737853506I'm Reading the Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath right now. It feels completely different tonally to the rest of Lovecraft's short stories because Carter just goes around making friends with a bunch of different races and exploring a world that I assume is filled out in his other writings. I did recognize stuff like the Cats from Ulthar (love them) and Pickman so I assume that the stuff that isn't expanded on is from something else. Definitely wasn't what I was expecting but it was a hell of a ride
>>737845513Fiction? I heard you like fiction, so I put fiction in your fiction so you can have parables in your parables.
>>737835679>>737835876antichamber and blue prince top of mind.witness. metal gear solid 2.
>>737835503Why did the homeowner's wife just start making out with that other dude in the kitchen randomly?
>>737855226I like how all the critics call her a whore
>>737841616You are like baby. All the obscure things I found from 20 years ago are all super giga popular and no one is willing to admit I put them on that shit. Now I have to see memes I propagated decades ago take huge waves and when I tell some zoomer "hey I made that!">ok unc!
>>737845513How accurate is this?
>>737844821You'd be surprised how functional people can be despite being an absolute mess internally.
>>737835503wtf i just bought this book two weeks ago get out of my head
>>737844179Genuinely looks like a comfy place to live
>>737855506It's already watching you
>>737846780thank god there was the gold to forge
I need to go back to reading as well as I did when I was a teenager. The last book I managed to readwell was No Longer Human last year and somehow I'm slogging through Meditations but when I was a teen my focus was so much better
>>737841616Or maybe you should stop trying to make the fact you were into something before others a big deal.
>>737855595I picked up No Longer Human cause I was browsing the Fiction section at B&N and saw a japanese author. I later found it it's super popular. I haven't read it yet.Anyway, what's so good about house of leaves? Is it just "it's good because it's experimental"?
>>737855648I kinda get it though. As an example, I liked Earthbound back when it came out, and it's annoying that Earthbound has now become synonymous with Undertale, which is basically synonymous with things like Homestuck. I don't mind when things I like become popular years after I liked them, but the new fandom is always worse than the old fandom, and the new fandom can turn into other things which can sort of retroactively sour the piece of media it all stems from.
>>737846304One Hundred Years of Solitude is objectively the best book ever written.
>>737855226>cuckshitGreat, I can gladly NOT read this book and call people faggots without subjecting myself to this cancer.
>>737846057This is the best description of this book I've ever heard. What hooked me was the SCP-tier piece of media.>>737845965I felt the same way. Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell also did notations similarly, but was far less egregious about it.
>>737846065entirely ignored post until now
>>737855856I can already tell you would have gotten super confused and put it down anyway.
>>737841616James Murphy's first song was about the indignation he felt as a DJ when he would pull some random old song and put in on a playlist, then notice other DJs would start using it and it'd suddenly get popular in his scene - and then sort of flipped it by examining how retarded it was to get so protective and egotistical over something as stupid as "liking it before it was cool".
>>737850506Start with the Greeks.
>>737856102>dude cucks lmaoYeah it's no wonder /lit/ is a bunch of faggots, they can't get enough of this shit.
>>737836967>spoilerThey got her song 'Haunted' as a track ending an episode in the first game. They love this shit.
>>737856289This isn't really about the book, is it.
>>737856369You're right, it's about you and your love for all things polyamorous.>haha i loved it so much when someone's wife cheated on him that i clapped
>>737853506read DeLillo's "The Names", which was neat and interesting when he went into digressions about language, but frankly wildly boring when any inter-personal drama is involved. Like most DeLillo, it suffers from the problem of getting compared at every moment to the completely stunning Libra.As of now, I have started a Mason & Dixon reread. Much funnier than I remember. Also reading through the Marquis De Sade's letters from the Vincennes and Bastille
>>737853506The Thousand Autumns of Jacob de Zoet.
>>737853496Reading this gave me testicular cancer.
>>737856413You're embarrassing yourself by throwing this tantrum
>>737853506The Unholy Consultshould've believed when I saw others calling Bakker a hack piece of shit
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>>737855226will navidson lied to her about exploring the house and his obsession with it was ruining their already strained marriage. the whole navidson story is basically about will and karen learning to understand each other and fixing their relationship.
>>737853286YesYou close the tab
>>737853261I thought The City and The City was interesting but Mieville's writing has a smug undertone that grates
>>737855747The Navidson section has a cool premise for a haunted house story and the when the book gets crazy with the formatting it is very effective. It is definitely way more style over substance though.
>>737853506>>737854073Currently reading Les Miserables. It's pretty good so far. Kinda funny how sometimes he'll spend entire chapters on tangents about French history. I kinda appreciate it, since I didn't know shit about Waterloo outside of knowing it involved Napoleon and playing the level in Psychonauts
Here's my theory on what the underlying narrative is for HOL, thanks in advance for reading my blogpostZampano is God, which felt like an obvious angle on the part of the author, but I digress - the story constantly refers to odd bits regarding his character, such as how he was "never good at the brother dynamic..." with Will and Tom and overtly comparing them to Cain + Abel, how the House was seemingly created at the beginning of time with the mineral study, how he was described as an "omniglot" that could speak almost any language, and so on.This ties into the Minotaur, who is heavily implied to have killed Zampano and haunts both the Navidson house and Truant. The Minotaur is notably referred to as an abandoned child, a black sheep, and if you want to tie back into the religious shit then he would be the Satan/Lucifer analogue - the book is Zampano's attempt to do justice to, salvage this thing that haunts him still, but to touch on it at all wills it back into reality - initially, the Minotaur references are scrubbed to try and curtail this, but then Zampano throws the book out altogether and only by happenstance does it resurface. Johnny ties this all together because he essentially IS the Minotaur - God's abandoned son, a miserable angry child that wants little more than to eat and fuck his days away. There is a notable bit near the end of the book in which he describes his body mutating into a dark, clawed form, and he is frequently plagued by divine visions he could not hope to comprehend, even besides the fact he turns into what he describes himself as to be "...a creature unstirred by history, no longer moved by the present, just hungry, blind and at long last full of mindless wrath" at the climax. The end of the book is him finding peace, which opens the possibility that Johnny's segments are also written by Zampano and HOL in its entirety is basically God saving his lost child, but I digress at risk of making another text-dump.
I appreciate myhouse.pk3 including the Labyrinth as an easter egg within the wad
>>737841616I mostly think this is retarded and don't care how many normalfag morons like things I like, but I have to say a song you enjoyed being used in a video game trailer and having the comments forever just be shitty reddit memes and quotes is a punishment dreamt up by Satan in the blackest pits of Hell.
Honestly I'd rather see this in a game format somehow.
>>737857081No, but Suda does seem to draw from the same well at times. The Silver Case is actually fairly similar. Tokio reminds me of Johnny.>>737855747>Is it just "it's good because it's experimental"?No, it has a real heart to it, but it is popular just because it's different. If you don't like the Johnny parts it isn't worth reading, and if you don't have experience with what the Navidson Record is riffing off of you won't love it like some people do.
>>737843771not bad, although all the change is affected by the player
>>737853506Flesh and steel, a warhammer 40k book
>>737835503The author was a one trick pony who relied on retarded typesetting gimmicks. His second novel leaned even heavier on that shit. It crashed and burned because everyone got their fill with House of Leaves and he vanished into obscurity.
I absolutely love the way the Navidson Record is always described through the found footage analog. Like we dont just describe the room but also what is in-frame, in-focus etc. Is there any other book that does something like that?
>>737852068I always assumed this was a real house but I find it interesting that the actual flower painting is on that same wall, was this shared by the creator of the WAD? It's a lot less creepy when it looks like this.
>>737858480>His second novel50 year sword? i enjoyed it.
bump
>>737852068The dog made me jump.
>>737857584I feel less schizophrenic when I read posts like this.
>>737858604It was his ex wife
>>737835503Is this the movie game of books? I only ever glanced at it but it seems more like a thing you read to experience rather than actually enjoy as a book.
started this. the horror parts were very intriguing. but i feel a bit like a brainlet when im flipping back and forth between pages to follow the annotations.
>>737853506To completion? House of Leaves. Presently working through the Bible, but I also have Blood Meridian and The Infinite & The Divine on standby.
>>737854958Really liked how it expands the universe and even show characters from other stories. But yeah it feels like a journey novel instead of the regular crazy shit from the short stories.
>>737853506Working my way through Never Deal with a Dragon. I'd like to read some novels based on video games such as Metro 2033, Gears of War, The Division, Mass Effect, Dead Space and Eve Online.
>>737835503Yume Nikki
>>737835503Paratopic, kinda
>>737863659Nah. .flow, though.
>>737853506The last book I actually finished was Gravity's Rainbow. I keep trying to read other books (the most recent is Anatomy of Melancholy), but I keep thinking about that one, thinking about a reread.
I loved the part where the King in Yellow ordered the Qu to turn Judge Holden into a mouthless blob
>>737838502How many multilingual 11/10 supermodels does he have to fuck? But really, I agree. His stuff all comes together nicely and was more satisfying than the Navidson Record segments.
This has some very cool scenery and ideas but I am not ashamed to admit the overall plot filtered me.
HOUSE
>>737864007I never finished this one. But really loved the entire style. Simple, yet lucidly psychedelic and metaphysical. May give it another go in the future.
>>737864020Either Scandinavian or Slav, something about those cold euro countries man, can't design a sane house to save their lives.
>>737853506The Weird of the White Wolf
>>737864187I liked the guy with a boat full of masculine stones that flew by repelling the feminine energy of the planet.
>>737853506The last thing I read was the dragon book because I've been writing a toy compiler for fun in my spare time.If you mean fiction then the last thing I actually read was Youjo Senki.I don't think I've read any actual proper literature in a decade, mostly because I don't think any actual literature has been made in more than a decade.
>>737864417based nerd
>>737863097anon, metro 2033 was a novel before a videogame
>>737864409The way they set up the space ship travel was oddly charming. Very fun writer overall, although apparently he couldn't handle all the mystics revelations at the time.
>the three books i own are all because of video games
I've been wanting to read this for a while as I havee a big erection arround metafiction. Should I try and get the print? Will I lose anything reading out of a pdf? Or is it like homestuck when literally any format change ruins it?
>>737865329>Will I lose anything reading out of a pdf?You will lose everything.
>>737865329>>737865417Or, well, okay, not everything, but enough that you should get a physical book.
>>737835503Alan Wake 2
>>737865329There are very few books where it actually matters to read on paper like physical book lovers will tell you constantly but this is one of the ones that you actually should read on paper.
>>737865329It's been a long time but I remember there being actual, physical holes in some pages you read passages from the page behind it through. I don't think you'd get the same experience from a pdf.
>>737850506I Am Legend
>>737838502I regret wasting time on the Zampano bullshit. Johnny's story and Navidsson exploring the house are the only good parts of the book.
>>737865173name em
>>737865891OP book, The King in Yellow, The Notebook(well technically it's 3 books)
Just read Alfred Kubin's "The Other Side"Planning to finish "Consider Phlebas" at some point, since I skipped that book in the Culture series.
>>737850506I have the same problem but decided to start reading this winter. I found helpful to start with short stories collections and reading stuff i actually liked
>>737835503Eternal Darkness
>>737846490Holy fuck. I didn't think anyone else knew about this game. It's been me little niche gem for a while
>>737835701>the narrative structure is also 3 simultaneous layers, and i've never seen that done in vidya eitherYou could Zack McKraken on the computer in Dr Ed's laboratory while playing Maniac Mansion on Ned Edison's computer in Day of the Tentacle, that surely counts?
>>737853506If you mean real books, I'm a couple deep into the Sun Eater series>been living off LNs and slop ever sinceIf you're counting those then I have no idea, I follow so many badly translated chinese slop stories and western web novels that I probably still read 300 pages on an off week between series.I don't even know why, I can be 1000 pages in before I realize I never enjoyed the series and drop it, or I pick up something to read based on length over quality and spend 4 months in the Wandering Inn mines.
>>737853506I tried reading At The Mountains of Madness but the first 30 pages is unbelievably boring.
>>737855329That's the problem with anonymity>hey, I made that meme 15 years>oh yeah? prove it>er, well, you see, I can't prove it because I posted it anonymously
>>737855436thank god the japanese also suck at translation and haven't managed to translate Infinite Jest (yet)
>>737853506Currently reading Gustav Meyrink anthology
>>737841616Being a oldfag /x/phile is weird.>Slenderman Hollywood movie right after an attempted murder inspired by him>people with goetic seals on their trendy clothes and accessories>upcoming Backrooms movie>local popup Halloween shop in south London selling Jeff the Killer and fucking ZALGO costumes>Order of the Nine Angles is having a "moment" via Discord thanks to a wave of Covid kids wanting to be edgelordsI swear to fuck if I see them bring back Candlejack next I'll lose my mind, but I'm not sure they even can beca
>>737851035this is not how you make a read/expected/got image by the way
>>737851218I read this on my own when I was 25 and I actually really liked. I probably would have hated it if I had to read it in school.
It's insane to me how influential Lovecraft's ideas are compared how fucking horrendous his actual prose is. He is the purest definition of an "ideas guy"
>>737870520What?
>>737846304>disrespecting south american literatureYou're troglodyte.
>>737870820nothing, nevermind
What would happen if you took a sledgehammer or something to the wall outside the impossible extra space
>>737852056most kids are not mature enough to understand and appreciate the required readings in high school.Bean Trees was fucking stupid though, no idea why we had to read that piece of shit
>>737853506Last and first idol
>>737853506I'm currently reading Moby Dick but I'm being filtered by his endless ramblings on the taxonomical differences between a sperm whale and a humpback whale
>>737835503>ctrl: f Signalis>0 resultsBlue Prince comes in a close second, I will admit. It's got the necessity of note-taking. The drive to obsess over things that might not matter. The meta-game of putting pieces together outside of the game. But House of Leaves is a complex story delivered, and hidden, throughout a simple one. And that's Signalis. You can play through the game and make it to the end thinking it's just a weird sci fi horror bit with some abstract, low tier art thrown in. You can beat the game with that understanding of it. But every single weird abstract thing that's flashed on your screen has meaning. And the more autistic you want to get and start taking notes on the weird flashes and subtle environmental cues, the more you'll appreciate the game. And there's an actual, confined resultion to be drawn from your findings. I've never experienced a piece of media like Signalis that was so effective at this. The devs mastered this experience. Every note you take is consistently paid back to you, as you come across the next clue you didn't pay attention to in you previous playthrough. Usually if I get the feeling to go schizo on a game, I'm just banging my head against a wall until I realize it's not built like that. Signalis is built like that. You'll have false leads, for sure. But they aren't a primary part of the experience like they are in Blue Prince.
>>737871137why the fuck are you talking about video games
>>737835503This entire thread is just full.of try hards who are reading books that are already mainstream and established and pretend that David Foster Wallace is good when he would be praising troons and cursing Drumpf if he was alive today yet because he is dead they can read his lazy postmodern satire and pretend they like it. Absolutely pathetic. Even in your book choices you are normies.
I'm really glad a lot of the best books are at least 50+ years old and are now in the public domain, and you can just download a PDF and start reading them freely.I can't wait until 150 years from now and all the games ever made until this point become public domain and you can just freely and legally access them all from Project Gutenberg or something of the sort.God I fucking hate copyright law so goddamn much bros
>>737871265I did my part!
>>737869386>and spend 4 months in the Wandering Inn minesBeen there; sorry to hear that bro.You should check out The Mech Touch, possibly the only other story in the history of man to rival TWI's wordcount. Very cool story chapters 200-800 are the ultimate filter because one (1) interesting thing happens in the whole period; it gets good after that I promise I PROMISE.
>>737848773Ever heard about "Cowboys & Aliens"? It was a bestseller once.
>>737853506The Martian. It was okay. I like sci fi stories the most, but the occasional horror and comedy are great too. The Garth Merenghi audiobooks are pretty fucking funny.
>>737871316If you want real fart-sniffing pretentious company go to /lit/. If it's not the most complicated, dry, unpleasant read possible they'll look down their noses at you.It's a 4chan thing in general, really. Every hobby board is as elitist as it comes and quickly devolves into a parody of elitism, where everyone must prove they're more elite than anyone else.
>>737835503>House of LeavesBoring ass book. I got like 4 chapters into it and can't bring myself to finish it. Anyway the game you're looking for is Superliminal.
>>737871316>t. extra farthuffer Gravity's Rainbow fag
>>737870474Being and oldfag /x/phile is fucking miserable because that board experienced the steepest drop off in quality of any board ever.Everyone loves to complain how shit modern /[board]/ is compared to back then but only a true /x/phile knows what suffering is.We went from literally culture defining creepy pastas, SCP, cool collections of weird wikipedia articles and some nice urban exploration with actual photosto trannoids larping as vampires, "witches", aliens, and time travelers. We now have Q-anon shizos trying to outdo flerfs in retardation while incels ask people for palm readings and tarot cards wether the fat cashier lady loves them.
>>737874071/x/ died when the sceptics left. Ironic but it's true.
>>737853506This is so pathetic you must have an NTR fetish
>>737853506I liked pic and Strange Case. very readable for 140 year old books
>>737841616so you're a hipster
>>737853506Grapes Of Wrath. I didn't expect the baby to die.
>>737847587>Never seen a /lit/izen whip out Arno SchmidtIt happened all the time before 2016 kek, but it was mostly ironic in a "you think that book is hard? check out this unreadable 2000 page doorstopper written in 5 different languages, 2 of which are dead" way
>>737851338Corporations resurrecting an ancient superintelligent predator of humanity just to use it to play the stock market is the most plausible thing I've ever read in a sci-fi novel
>>737853506I'm reading the thousand autumns of jacob de zoetLast one I finished was a short story colection by soseki natsume
