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>the devs MUST disclose their use of genAI!
But why?
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If genAI is so great and nobody cares about it being used, why does it matter? Surely you wouldn't be ashamed of it, since "everybody is using it"?
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>>737835875
why not?
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>>737835875
So that you see that they're selling the product made cheaper and faster for the same price or higher
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Don't you wanna show that it's the future?
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to expose the large language machine jew
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>>737835875
If you use someone to make something aren't you supposed to put them in the credits?
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>>737835875
How are they even going to tell unless you’re so lazy that you ship the game with AI assets in it? What, are they going to examine every last line of code in your unity game and see if the comments are too good?
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"Textures in this game have been made in Adobe Photoshop"

Wow I'm so glad every dev in the last 30 years disclosed this.
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>>737836536
FUCK YOU
PAINTERS TRANS RIGHTS
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>>737835875
People are rightfully worried we are up to jewish tricks. I will disclose any AI i might use (voices) so we're all clear.
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>>737835875
>AIjeets are now comparing themselves to kikes
Kek
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>>737836536
This nigga never read the credits
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>>737835875
glad someone saved the edit I made, kek OP
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>>737835875
The largely overblown argument is that AI use is generally harmful, whether that is environmentally, economically for artists and VAs, or to an overall artistic vision that the game itself might have.
Personally, I want to avoid games using "slop" assets like what E33 and Crimson Desert were caught doing, even if those were supposedly placeholders, because gen AI is simply not good enough to use for concept art and the like yet.
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>>737836576
Nice try, Shlomo.
We know your golem just got out of control. I'm not going to support ai just because troons hate.
You will both go into the gas.
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>>737837467
It's pretty much "thing they don't like bad". they will quote environmental issues while ignoring much larger contributors, like the industrialization of China and India. artists never said anything about AI until it started getting on that mid-level grift. now they couldn't subsidize their living expenses and escape full-time day job work. high-end artists didn't care, because their work is intentional and not affected by something that is essentially a mystery box. and I can't stress that enough, how most of the people that screamed about Photoshop are the same kind of middling artists. people pumping out half finished sketches and furry fetish slop. angry that a machine can now finish what they drip fed along for years.
anyway I ranted enough.
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>>737835875
For the same reason that censorship matters. If you have nothing to be ashamed of, you should disclose it, right? You certainly don't care about privacy. If you want people to have to put out their personal information onto the internet in order to be able to use their freaking OS, then you should obviously have the decency to do the same thing in your place of business. Put what should be private information out into the public, it isn't like it matters after all.
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>>737835875
>solo indie dev MUST disclose
>AAA+ dev just uses it

Fuck this noise, i care about end results.
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>>737835951
Everyone IS using it. It's just that the handful of people that don't seethe endlessly about it.
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>>737835875
so we can exterminate them in camps, methinks
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>>737835875
because AI assets are soulless so I'm not playing your game
simple as
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>>737836536
>saaar doesn't understand the difference between "human created thing with program" and "software auto-generated thing"
clockwork
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>>737835875
Because for a variety of reasons people are concerned about the use of AI in video game development and want to be informed when and how AI is used in games they are considering their time and money on.
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>>737837878
You can't see AI code
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it's really good that customers are informed what they are buying. there are no downsides.
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>>737835875
So people are aware the game took no effort to make and "devs" must lower their tone when speaking to gamers.
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>got promoted and a raise at work
i think i can justify $30 for my magic "take this chicks clothes off" AI machine
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>>737835875
>20% of the revenue from the sales of this game go to support Israel.
Do they really need to disclose that in videogames?
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>>737835875
Because I hate jews.
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>>737837893
nta, but you're fucking retarded. do you have any idea how many shortcuts are created by Photoshop instead of actually being the end of a human? patterns, brushes, shading and lighting. It's literally select a button. both are considered blasphemy to true artists, if you're going to be a purist. The entire argument is fucking retarded though, arguing over something so subjective is just people trying to force others to give them a feeling of being right.
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>>737838127
shut up kike
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>>737837893
we're having the same discussion we had back then except instead of wondering if something is shooped or not we're wondering if it's actually AI slop
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>>737837778
This is exactly what the end result is. The only people who get affected by AI derangement syndrome or AIDS are poorfags making their first indie games and end up get dogpiled by twitter and steam trannies, meanwhile the trillion dollar AAA companies just slap that shit everywhere and nobody can do shit about it. Total crab bucket mentality, all this retarded "good artists copy, GREAT artists steal" mantra falls flat on the absolute stupidity of these retards.
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>>737838169
silence Indian.
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>>737837915
People really aren't 'concerned'. They have a busy body attitude towards it. They suspect wrong doing against people and that corporations are once again stepping on people to spend dollars to save pennies. Very little about this is an actual moral fight, as you still need artists to actually clean up anything a generative picture spews out, unless you want all of your character art to have 6 fingered hands. The issue is more that people want to know the real value of what they are paying for. If you spew out assets in seconds using AI, why is the game still 80 dollars? Because that is what the market dictated it as? Why is the cost of the game not relative to the budget? People don't like to feel ripped off, but they don't want to say they are a cheapskate, combined with huge FOMO and the moralistic crusader will demand you say if said product had AI used in any portion of it and when said company denies it, they will purchase it, even when it is obvious that the product is super low quality and it doesn't matter even if AI was used at all.
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>>737837786
Then it should be fine if those people are informed. If its a small handful of people screeching sales can ignore that.
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>people are annoying on twitter
>this means everything I can fathom should be raped and molested
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>>737838271
AI can't produce originality thoughbeit it will prevent and misinterpret if there's even a slight "harm detected" or "offensive output" and over-correct itself. Chines and Indians glazing AI are bunch of niggers that live with the biggest amounts of restrictions and think its good.
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>>737835875
It helps that my eariliest introduction to AI stuff was mainly through beta c.ai, but so far I have been positive, in a more resonable way than most.

As in,
>consider the tech good and useful on its own, is really able to speed up certain things or at least provide inspiration/a strong starting point for creative pursuits
>do not consider companies to be good however, especially the bigger jews such as OpenAI and the usual suspects like Google - somewhat partial to anthropic
>the whole hysteria about replacing/devaluing humans is silly, and it has obvious parallels to literally any advancement in tech, especially when it came to something that involved artists, that's just about knowing history here
>but the hype is also exaggerated, this kind of tech isn't even really approaching the definition of strong AI, or AGI, it's only very convincing at best
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>>737838395
Oh right, I really needed originality for rock texture #17. I'm sure that the army of NPCs tearing me a new asshole for this are doing this out of artistic integrity of a roadside rock.
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Its my money, I'm allowed to know about what I am spending my money on.
>you dont actually care its not important theres no reason to care I shouldnt need to tell you anything
Not your choice, not your decision its mine cause its my money.
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If the devs couldn't bother to make it, why should a player bother to play it?

If a game is made cheaper, then why isn't the price cheaper?
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>>737836025
So price should be determined by which tools are used? Thats not how it goes champ. Its supply and demand
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>>737838567
If people don't want to pay you for this then that is their choice. Remember that you are making a product to sell, not decorating your own living room so your own personal preferences are secondary to your customers.
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>>737837467
It's also built on stolen IP

And the environmental impact is not overblown
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>>737835875
>Why are publishers worried about stolen assets lawsuits?
You tell me juden
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>>737837945
>game runs at 13 fps and is impossible to maintain
Nice code bro
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>>737837467
I do not want people living in Ohio to pay 5% more in electric and water bill for no reason because it might as well be me and +20% in the future.
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>>737838395
>AI can't produce originality
This guy uses AI and I've never seen anything else like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvjt6Nhvz3g

Meanwhile you've 300 rollslops being churned out on Steam daily. At the end of the day it's all about the creativity of the individual not the tools they use.
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>>737835875

Because AI-made content is defined as worthless and everyone knows it. Even the people advocating for this shit know it, that is why they want to be able to sneak it in without having to admit it.
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>>737838791
It's not built on stolen IP anymore than someone looking at art and getting inspired to make their own version is. The input is utterly distinguishable from the output. and the environmental impact is completely negligible, nowhere near as bad as larger contributors. It's just a bunch of Bohemian purists whining about the inevitable growth of technology. If the service was offered completely for free, with no cooperations getting involved, nobody on Twitter would have gotten in a hissy fit over it. It's all about the money in the end.
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>>737839225
Wrong
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>>737836238
Ill use your mother and credit her as fleshlight in my sex
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>>737839081
>i want to stay in the steam age while others advance to the electric age

Nice mindset, schizo.
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>>737835951
If AI use is so obvious why do you need them to tell you they use it? Can't you tell anyways?
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Slop must be disclosed.
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>Be painter/decorator
>Get hired to paint a house
>Customer asks you to paint it all bright yellow
>You go "fuck that I hate yellow you're getting blue"
>Customer blows a gasket
>You don't get paid
>You don't get hired again
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>>737839312
Holy retarded investor babble.
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>>737839321
Wear the jewmark you filthy kike
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>>737839321
It's important just based on tagging and filtering alone. Soon enough, all digital storefronts will be overrun by slop.

AI tools are naturally able to shit out garbage faster than people can sort through it. Having a mandatory AI tag will be very necessary moving into the future to determine at a glance what has effort.
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>>737839257
...is what you are about this subject. Concession accepted.
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>>737837697
It's all about control
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>>737839398
They are paying more and yet they produce nothing... I smell Jewish magic.
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>>737838395
I made Clod write a trial where one of the biggest plot threads was about blackmailing some idols by using suggestive material they took specifically when they were minors, and younger than their current ages even. The little sluts...

Funniest part is that I didn't even hint at anything too specific, he really just did that.
And an alternative plot thread included the possibility of somebody going in to rape a 15yo.
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>>737835951
If genAI is so bad, then why do you need a notification? Shouldn't you be able to notice it?
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>>737839440
Sure thing schizo new technologies are indeed investor bubbles, i bet that fella Edison or Westinghouse sure were full of bubble, nothing like reading a book by candlelight.
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>>737835951
Because Steam wouldn't DARE make a big company like Sony, EA, or Activision have to disclose they're using AI on their page but try to use an AI generated rock texture and Gaben's gonna shove his hand up your ass and make you squeal like a piggy just to appeal faggots like you. You're literally playing right into their hands you fucking tool.
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>>737839321
its more efficient and ai jews need to know their place
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>>737839496
But you can filter with your eyes
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Stop questioning it
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>>737837893
>Runs a photoshop script that analyzes colors and cleans up my sloppy coloring
vs
>Runs a photoshop AI that analyzes volors and cleans up my sloppy coloring

Somehow ranjeet and redditroons get upset when AI is mentioned to do the same shit we've been doing for years
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>>737839398
>Lake Tahoe goes cold during a power outage so that people can make low-effort AI movies full of noticeable hallucinations and inconsistencies
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>>737839638
It wastes time and creates a worse experience.
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>>737838791
>It's also built on stolen IP

No it isn't. You can't steal digital art and that's never what genAI did in the first place. Your refusal to educate yourself is why you lost your seat at the conversation table, nitwit.
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>>737839696
why would they try to hold AI liable for something they should be checking themselves. It's not actually artificial intelligence. It's just a computer program that approximates with pre-existing data. If anyone should be held liable for using it, it's the people that trusted a computer program with anything critical. those aren't things that should be approximated anyway.
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Funny how when you just don't care about following (((their))) rules or what they/thems on troonsky and 4chan have to say nobody actually gives a fuck about AI and you can still be incredibly successful.
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>>737839497
>n-n-no u!!
Just accept that you're wrong and try again.
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>>737839789
So like PC yet you are ok with that
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>>737837945
You can't see AI code but you'll feel the results of it.
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>>737839917
Because ai is being shoved everywhere.
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>>737839789
Your time isn't worth anything and if you can't distinguish between AI and human generated assets then that's just proof that AI is just as good as humans.
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>>737839497
Wow did you get chat gpt to write that
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>>737839321
Because you can tknow whats in a game without seeing it you absolute fucking mongoloid lmao. What, is every player supposed to know from the store pahe that every line of dialogue in a certain village is AI generated and every design in that village is AI generated because the devs "wanted to create a certain style of heritage moxed from real world elements and so used AI" for it ?

The samre way people dont want to buy assetflip UE5 slop they dont want to end up buying a full price game where the developers didnt even make large swathes of it. Labeling products accurately is only a good thing
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>>737839965
>Just accept that you're wrong and try again

Is what you told yourself before making your post.
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>>737839606
>most important invention is artificial light, invented to let worker cattle work longer hours without natural light or even seeing outside, all so number can go up
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>737839990
Windows has been bad LOOONG before AI became commonplace little zoomie.
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>>737839398
Don't be a luddite
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>>737839970
why are you arguing for a worse customer experience? It makes no sense. It might result in fewer purchases because customers cannot find games at the quality level they expect. It's completely stupid to argue this unless you yourself are a butthurt AI user.
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>>737840082
You could read a review or go to the forums and someone will mention AI use
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>>737839492
>>737839624
>le meme answers
gold given, fellow strangers!

>>737839496
You need to be a special kind of retard to buy bad games. If someone just "vibes" a game, you can easily spot it.
If someone uses AI to generate boilerplate and assist in formating, you will never spot it.
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>>737839908
lmao nobody takes ai weenies seriously
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>>737839991
these people are insane. It is nowhere near ready for that, this isn't even the kind of technology that should be used for exact measurements. It's not actually intelligent. It's just a stupid marketing name. why can't people just have a cool invention and use it for fun and cool shit, it doesn't need to solve every problem out of the box. fucking greedy ties.
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>>737840082
do you even have to disclose what engine you use
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>>737840202
>Adding in sawdust to the bread is fine so long as people don't notice
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>>737840096
>Npc got stuck looping same comment
Lmao your parents (indians) vibed you into existence
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>>737835875
>But why?
Because the anti-shills don't know what to attack without the label.
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>>737840165
Yeah and we need artists to state if they used digital art or if they hand crafted it with real pencils

Where is my filter for that!!!
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>>737840060
I mean given how their women have been twisted by social media, generation Z and alpha really have it bad. I've tried it and it is better talking to AI if only because it's not connected to social media drama and feeling being a whore is a privilege. nowhere near Detroit become human android level though. these guys will probably be in diapers before then.
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>>737840291
Not gonna lie, I would like that.
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>>737840291
That takes actual skill unlike tounging altmans bunghole
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>>737840314
why the fuck are they using gas power instead of nuclear energy? why isn't anyone using nuclear energy? It's way more efficient, power producing, and clean. I know the world economic forum had a problem with it, but unlike language learning models this is actually a wide expanding solution.
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>>737839992
Youre misunderstanding the argument because youre a retard but thats okay. The visual quality is not the issue- AI can create appealing works. To sa ly otherwise is cope. But to AI generate an entire game that looks like Ocarina of Time without the skill or design ability to make that game means itll be slop. The ability for 100s of those games to be posted immediately means anything of real quality will be impossible to find.

Youre arguing to make it harder to find good works on the basis that AI can make a game just as good as a human can by copy pasting visual elements and suckering you into thinking those elements are markers of quality. You WANT to see endless games from retards who cant write a story, cant make art, cant code, cant make music and for all intents and purposes dont know how to make a game when were struggling to get good games actually made by talented individuals and teams.
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>>737840261
What a terrible reddit-tier food analogy.
Using AI to format and do shit like "give me a list of every material file in folder X and its subfolders" is not the same as telling AI to generate shit.
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>>737839606
Yes you are doing investor babbling right now by comparing steam engine and now grasping at the lightbulb to justify the waste of water, electricity, money, infrastructure, VRAM that are LLMs, see it's not even "AI", even the name is a lie, you play with words as if you don't even know what they mean you Babelian psycho.
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>>737839992
>>737840202
>Just look for a needle in a haystack
Yes that sure sounds logical. Click through 650000 pages of slop to find the game you want instead of mandating AI tagging. I'm sure both developers and storefronts will be happy that good games get no discovery and that their platform is generating less sales. Genius.
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Does anyone complain about AI coding like they do art or sound? I see some vibe code talk but it doesn't seem as "taboo" as the other two.
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>>737839562
>this is your brain on AI psychosis.
sorry cunt but they have pre-determined plots and sets they go through, its not creative. Its one of those literal "fill in x with y" respond with "z if otherwise." hahaha. Jeetbrained idiots really believe there's creativity in AIs. AI can't portray a full to the brim wine-glass, because it never saw one. Simple.
>but but but...
don't care. I know more than you.
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>>737840413
this is absolutely crazy, why can't these fucking idiots understand It's not actually artificial intelligence. that is literally just a gimmick name to sell it to investors. It's meant to make approximations. It's going to be a different technology that creates something that actually can think and problem solve. our lives are in the hands of people that don't even understand what they are spending money on.
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>>737839917
>It's not actually artificial intelligence. It's just a computer program that approximates with pre-existing data.
I would wager about 5% at MOST of people know and actually understand this. Spending time here makes you think everyone is a huge faggot and angry all the time but also at least somewhat technologically literate (we're talking absolute minimum here, mind), but to Joe Sixpack and the investors, it is in fact a literal magic box that power goes into a money will come out of eventually. And if you try to explain to them that it's just a really broad version of the auto-complete search box on Google, they either call you a luddite or claim it's just a stepping stone to ULTIMATE AGI UBI ALT BBQ utopia.
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The funniest thing to me is that I hear that people get to finally make their "dream" idea, and most of the time it is a copy of current popular thing or a remix of childhood things with no meaningful changes.
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>>737840291
>Where is my filter for that!!!
right fucking here chief
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How long until this AI bubble bursts?
Seriously what is even AI good for that's actually productive?
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>>737840392
Chernobyl
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>>737840462
>pre-determined
This is literally not how a generative model works... Holy retard.
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>>737840249
Interestingly enough you dont but Engines are licensed and paid for- AI generated assets are not. If you see Unity and UE store assets in the thumbnails you can guess because they reoccur. With AI you can just feed textures for those assets through it to obfuscate the fact its an assetflip maling the situation even worse.
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>>737840417
It is the same sort of customer deception. Trying to feed them things they don't like by just not telling them it's in there. I am personally ok with AI being used but I am also in favour of people being informed about what it is they are buying so they can make the decision if a little bit of sawdust is something they don't mind in their bread while those that don't want your sawdust bread can not buy it.
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>>737840392
Nuclear is against ESG funds.
Basically, if it helps human thrive we must ban it, if it's the reverse like homosexuality, we must enforce it.
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>>737840249
You can often times see the engine and SDKs a game uses on SteamDB.

https://steamdb.info/tech/
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>>737840398
>AI can create appealing works.
Where?
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>>737840570
Today I asked copilot about how to fix the stick drift in my controller and it did.
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>>737840141
what
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>>737837697
Based and true
>>737839081
This anon gets it
>>737839303
Lol
>>737839321
Aaand /thread
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>>737840503
very true, and the enshittification of every institution and industry is painful to see. I was born in the '90s when things were going up to their peak, to see everything reach for the sun and then just collapse pisses me off. It's worse than the "demolition man" world.
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>>737838682
No, it's quality and value.
I don't want someone passing off some low quality shitty AI generated niggerdemon slop for the same price as high quality human made art. I'm casting my dollar vote.
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>>737840612
OH NO NOT LE PAPERS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITHOUT LE PAPERS
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>>737840423
Don't be a luddite
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>>737840706
At least in Demolition Man, Taco Bell won the fast food war.
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>>737840579
holy fuck that's exactly how they work especially through interpreting interfaces who have "safeguards" and other bullshit protecting from "harmful outputs." you are a retard, thanks for playing natural selection. Try and make them write a character profile and see what names pop up the most often, you'll notice they are just templates when the lid is thrown off and they are stuck to having to use "defaults." fucking retard rope.
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>>737840438
Bad games are released every minute on steam and its still easy to find good games.
Asset flip shit was being mass produced a few years ago because of the trading card schemes. That didn't have an impact either.
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>>737840578
statistically irrelevant. especially with the far more advanced technology that exists to prevent that. unless of course they use one of these LLMs to control it, thinking it's actually a brain in a box.
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>>737840570
My guess is when Trump & co will be ready so they will cash out on people's pension funds, my guess is this November, right before Christmas, we know that these people are absolute psychopaths who rejoice from things like this.
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>>737840736
bix nood fuck educayshun and sheeeit nigguh
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Only third worlders, talentless ideas guys and corporate bootlickers are in favor of AI
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>>737840560
I know what you are.
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>>737840793
You should become a statistic
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>>737840805
>trump derangement syndrome
>in 2026
ngmi
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>>737840654
So $1.6 trillion has been spent to invent a search engine.
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>>737840782
Ask me how I know that you failed probability classes.
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>>737840649
When it copies the appealing works of existing artists? How is this a disputabke claim- do you not think there is any good art in the world?
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>>737840601
unfortunately no one is starving enough to do anything about it either. there are so many different hands involved in this socio-political stage, you wouldn't know what a point a gun if you had one. >>737840612
this is a bigger problem then AI use in school. colleges have had an issue with being irrelevant learning wise for a while. You have a lot of time wasting, stupid assignments that exist within a vacuum, with no bearing in the real world. education inflation has caused people to be forced to go to college just to compete in entry level markets, filling the colleges with people that don't even want to be there. AI has definitely revealed just how stupid it is, but academia will never been the knee and do some self-observation without being forced
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>>737840739
I'll be having a ludokino time with real frames and soulful games thank you very much.
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>>737835875
When being racist against each other isn't enough we turn on the machines, humanity deserves to die ngl
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>>737840928
glib facsimile
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>>737840570
Data analysis
Translations
Fixing syntax
Generating lists
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>>737840570
>Seriously what is even AI good for that's actually productive?
I use it to cobble visual ideas together to see how they work, mostly because I'm lazy and unskilled on top of one person without actual concept artists, and thus the prime target audience. It's easy to open something up and paint over it in img2img and change 'white sweater' to 'blue shirt' or whatever the fuck and get a decently realistic representation of it. That said, it's about the only thing I use it for other than jerking off and even that loses its luster once you pick up on any model's GPTisms.

I'd never use it for anything that's actual concrete info or step by step guides or anything since you've always gotta double check anyway and at that point you might as well just do the fucking research yourself, but "yeah that's what a blue shirt looks like" is enough for me and where things should have stopped.
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>>737835875
If you aren't making the effort to create your own assets, why should I pay you?
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>>737840058
Temporary development placeholders are pink and black squares so that they know they're placeholders. If there's AI slop assets in the game they were expecting to get away with it and are just using placeholders as an excuse.
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>>737840920
Shalom.
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>>737840921
Basic bitch google would not have done that. Rather than maybe finding a forum post where you might get an answer to your problem if you're lucky it straight up diagnoses the problem and tells you how to fix it, and the fix actually works.
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>>737840920
You forgot his Trumpcoin rug pull? You never heard of it? Don't mistake me for a retarded fag-enabler leftist I denounce the Talmud.
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>>737840586
So if dev used AI to search his project for misplaced material files, the whole game is something that "people" dont want?
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>>737840579
>This is literally not how a generative model works...
that is exactly how generative models work. take seed X, do a bunch of math to it, barf out text or image. shit text models might even bypass the random gen seed part entirely and just do the same routine every time with only minimal changes (temperature/top p/k/etc).
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>>737839638
There's dozens of games released every day. It's impossible to find the ones you want to play without filters.
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>>737838682
The supply is infinite because digital product, I guess you can just pirate everything
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>>737840920
It's like these people don't want to die for Israel baka
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>>737839321
If customers are willing to pass up a purchase if AI was used in the product then adding it as a tag for a storefront is natural. It seems like AIfags are dipping into the tranny playbook by gaslighting people about how you can't tell the difference between the real and fake so stop calling it out.
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>>737841125
Yeah apparently or else you wouldn't be worried about telling them.
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>>737840782
Jesus christ you're a fucking retard. You're like a fucking jeet
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>>737835875
Pretty soon it won’t matter anyway. All the services will follow suit, and you can’t afford the 27x burn rate of Opus.
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>>737839593
>Shouldn't you be able to notice it?
I do, thanks to the notification that saves my time from buying the slop that uses.
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>>737841153
No because 2 terra M.2 drives are $800 instead of $180.
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>>737840793
Well autismo, normalfag cattle doesn't care about statistics and you're dumb for not knowing that.
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>>737840963
Okay but are you looling at art or being neurotic and grandstanding? It doesnt matter if its fake if it looks good in terms of aesthetic- the reason we prosecute people for selling fake merchandising isnt because the fake shoes and handbags dont initially look good u retard
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>>737841038
yeah succinctly put, It's great for approximations and being what is essentially an NPC helper in a video game. It's nice to help out and bounce ideas off of, but it doesn't play the game for you. unfortunately a lot of people are shitters that don't know how to play, so they think the NPC will do everything for them.
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>>737840398
These are the same arguments used for every engine, X will let people make a lot of games like Y therefore bad
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>>737840924
AI is quite literally forbidden from using RNG that's not faked and it will 100% of the time if given no instruction to write a name for "a woman from a storybook village" = Elara/Elana.

You suck donkey balls and graduate from gay club banging your ass homosexual BDSM club, not a graduate of any real education I can assume correctly because of the gay crying I hear emitting from your presence.
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>>737840570
If it bursts it'll burst like the dot com bubble, not the way you want it to.
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>>737841068
Dunning-Krueger post
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>>737841125
You disclose how it was used, usually that falls under "AI was used for organization and testing and not for any of the creative process"
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>>737841273
why are you being so mean to a fellow autist :(
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>>737841329
>elara

Why does it default to that name so often

All my AI girlfriends generate the same name, it's weird
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>>737841143
>>737841329
Are we really going to argue about the difference between "real randomness" and computer RNG now?
But that aside, it's not pre-determined because the result wasn't given, it's the most probable tokens(in a very big nutshell).
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>>737841308
I don't care there's no effort in it plus you can tell
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>>737835875
Same reason food companies should disclose that their Froot Creme contains no actual fruit or cream.
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You will never be art
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>>737836536
yeah that does make me think, even some time ago, python's main language server pylance (thing that provides stuff like autocomplete, go to def errors lint etc) were also called ai powered, does using something like this also fall under this, it does feel like a slippery slope, i am sure most big companies are using ai through a established tool like adobe suite and blender and shit, all those people would catch unnecessary heat, even though a lot of people might actually be using just something like autocomplete
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>>737840612
>what do you mean we have to adapt our methods to the real world?
How will this affect quota students who pass no matter what because they need x amount of non-whites to graduate every year?
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>>737840920
MIGA, my fellow Trumper!
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>>737841125
Involving AI in your workflow is not the same as using AI to generate assets and in construction or else you sound like a retard for saying a construction company IRL is using AI to build houses just because the accountant uses it to pay for and log materials
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>>737835875
Stealthing is rape.
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>>737840920
meds now kamala voter
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>>737835951
>If genAI is so great and nobody cares about it being used, why does it matter?
Why yes anon, that IS an argument against needing to disclose it.
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>>737840836
That sounds like the only people against AI are artists. It makes sense, it's better for them for people to be dumb and useless, so they're forced to pay them for content. People being able to do things by themselves with a tool doesn't make them money.
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>>737841398
Its not generative nor random based on probability. The AI does not roll a d100%, it set in stone like an XCom die result pool of what numbers to use when, but it doesn't even get a random seed planted each time.
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>>737841413
I remember this argument completely stopping digital art and recorded music.
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>>737840856
good
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>>737841175
>Just use these triggerwords. Dont worry, people understand nuance!
How about I dont because majority of people are fucking retarded?
It's like with some russian developers hiding their nationality because people sperg out about it as well.
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>>737841315
Yeah and that argument ended up being true where is the counterpoint exactly? Before engines were easy to use we had better games. Refute the point then. If ease of use is good then why is there more slop and less good games
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>>737840920
Get ready for a tidal wave of people saying you support jews. Apparently its impossible to not make your personality revolve around hating trump, AND to hate kikes at the same time.
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>>737841537
>But what if I don't want to label my product as genetically modified?! Fuck the luddites! They're retarded!
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>>737841260
So you cant tell the difference between AI and human?
Didnt know AI is that good already. From my experience it's easily noticeable. Guess I'm just smarter than you.
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>>737841552
>jew derangement syndrome
You’re the most MIGA of all
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>>737840739
then don't be a libtard too
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>>737841610
Tell chatgpt to read my post to you, because you clearly lack the intelligence to comprehend it.
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>>737841346
>Game has AI tag now
>Reddit hates you
>Receive death threats from your local trannies and fiverr jeets
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>>737841512
It's still separated as digital and traditional art, but AI will always be categorized under slop
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>>737841512
There is an argument against recorded music and you should consider it instead of being a philistine.
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>>737841552
Shalom.
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>>737841479
It would be if it were the least bit true and not a shill talking point.
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>>737841505
>it's not random, it's only [how RNG works]
Is this nigga serious.
And RNG isn't even the real point here, the point is that there aren't pre-written answers for everything(but there are certain instructions on how to answer the "unsafe" requests).
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>>737841692
recorded music has ancient copyright rules, you palestine.
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>>737841673
You chose to use AI, why are you surprised you got the AI tag
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>>737841597
>Goalposts moved
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>>737841735
Uhhhh it's pseudo random actually
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>>737841539
It's not wrong, I'm just don't care at this point
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>>737841664
I did and it told me that you're a retarded nigger who got BTFOd
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>>737841329
Claude has this problem where in a normal current day setting, without asking for anything specific, the names it "makes up" will always use spic or chink surnames.
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>>737841405
I dont value the opinions or arguments of people that will openly argue that being bad at something and then selling it is good. Youre actively dangerous to the quality of services if you dont care about how much "effort" people put in to provide it to you. Its not difficult to understand. Something can look good and appear passable when the working elements are copied from something better. You dont care about effort until something breaks or stoos making sense entirely because the producer didnt actually make or understand the element youre drawing issue with
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>>737841792
Goalposts went nowhere. It is the same argument you are making. Fuck those luddites standing in the way of progress! They'll get frankencorn and they'll fucking like it just so long as they never find out!
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>>737840736
No seriously whats stopping these schools from going back to the pencil and paper method?
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>>737837631
>we
speak it for yourself, homo
>both
accusing one like multiple people is paranoia
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>>737841768
I dont have the tag tho. I'll add it when someone has evidence of me using it.
250k sales btw
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>>737841885
lazyness
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>>737841692
I agree, recorded music means a robot is singing to you and a robot knows nothing of love, a robot has no soul.
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>>737835875
What nonsense. Maybe they should force them to disclose if they used Word to write story for their games, since that much faster than writing it with pen and paper.
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>>737841869
>Use AI to organise your shopping list
>Buy groceries
>Make food
>Food is now AI-generated
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>>737841537
>nuance
You faggots really need to quit trying to throw the N word around so much.
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>>737842014
Just add the label to the box and all is well faggot. You can buy GM produce if you want, but it has a fucking label on it.
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>>737841982
>penslop
Imagine not having your story immortalised in song
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>>737841956
But I thought the AIbros were the lazy ones!
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>>737838103
then you love AI retarded pajeet
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>>737841813
its not even pseudo-random nigger. A pseudo-random would be time-seeded based on your computer's internal clock. Funny how these mouth breathers keep denying but don't show results of an AI genn'd 100 times to showcase they deviate. (Because they do not.)
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>>737841865
Uh oh meltie
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>>737841837
Right okay, then innfuture can you shut the fuck about it instead of walking into the automotive repair meeting and saying you dont care if your car breaks down itll save everyone the trouble. I dont care about Strategy games thats why i dont go into conversations about them. Its a bit strange youd come into a conversation about the ramifications of generative AI usage just to say you dont care over a few posts
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>>737842034
Im sorry, I forgot that the N-word confuses brownies
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>>737842072
They are, that's why they aren't going back to paper
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>>737842121
lmao retard
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>>737837697
this is really it. every artist you see bitching about this is creating the most generic, uninteresting shit possible and they know it deep down. they're scared they can't adapt or keep up. i'm not really pro or anti AI by any measure but the issue with these people is pretty clear.
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>>737842105
Nice try listabelle
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>>737842034
>AI generated food is now GM food
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>>737842094
I could accuse you of being an AI due how retarded your statement sounds, but I recognize this kind of brain damage is purely human.
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>>737842162
Your tendency to shill for a boomer con that you use out of laziness is so nuanced, anon-sama.
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>>737842105
Wheres the melty? i just told you why its a shit idea to entertain the idea that effort isnt valuable because then you grt shit lroducts and services. Are you getting intimidated because its too many words? How did that come across as anything but neutral to you? Fucking spastic lmao
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>>737838103
I've seen far more anti-Isnotrael AIslop than I have pro-Israel AIslop
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i wont disclose and you will be raped by my ai code
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>>737842269
Shhhh baby shhhhh
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>>737835875
im not going to give my money to a company that uses generative ai cause it's plagiarism.
unless it is a model that is 100% trained on locally sourced images made by willing artists that were financially compensated, it's morally wrong.
i don't care if it's in the final product or not
if they use it at all, they don't get my money
if that limits my choices for future game purchases then so be it
i'd rather not play video games than reward corporate scumbags for their immoral behavior
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>>737835875
I don't just want devs to disclose when they use AI. I want people who intentionally use generative AI to make videos that are supposed to be seen as real footage of things to be beaten on public television and banned from ever using the internet. Even those faggots who make the fake and gay videos of dogs that are clearly AI to anyone who isn't an idiot

If your disdain for gen AI is centered around how it affects your stupid entertainment and "takes jobs from artists" and that's your main concern, then you are an absolute idiot that has never stopped to think about how a technology that will eventually be able to produce videos indistinguishable to the law and military leaders. You have never thought about how we will never be able to use real footage of billionaires doing terrible things against them in court without it being seen as AI. Likewise, notable dissidents to governments and corporations will have AI footage generated of them having sex with children and the courts will not be able to prove it is otherwise. Fake footage of war crimes will be used to justify immediate action that benefits the people who made the videos
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>>737842269
spending more than 4 seconds replying to something online or using punctuation means you're having a froth-spitting meltdown. or they just want an excuse to dismiss what you said.
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>>737842373
>im
AI could help you overcome your spelling disability.
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>>737842373
Based take. If I see a game has an AI disclosure I pirate it. No, you don’t get any money for selling me stolen goods.
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>>737842121
It's like my car already breaks down by x, y, and z, what's new? I'm not motioning against the previous Oot-maker engines that flooded 100 games like oot that were mostly trash aside from 2 good ones, good or not that is how they work. It's not shocking, the meeting is meh.
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>>737842405
>You have never thought about how we will never be able to use real footage of billionaires doing terrible things against them in court without it being seen as AI.
Have thought this one a lot.
Ironically enough, by speaking to Claude. We speculated that AI might become the ultimate scapegoat for people to dodge any sort of responsibility, as you might be unable to tell whether the AI did something as an "emergent behavior" or a "hallucination", or it was given as a well-crafted prompt to eventually lead the AI into producing a certain output, and how much of that might be intentional on the user's part.
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I'm pro-AI because two of my ex girlfriends were both artists and are massively asshurt about AI now and they were really shitty to me so I like it specifically to spite them. Don't use it for anything though.
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>>737842527
nothin wrong with that
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>>737835951
>no actual replies
machine learning enjoyers BTFO
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>>737842505
AI would have turned that phrase into "Imma".
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>>737835875
i mean i want to know if my food contains milk since i don't want to get diarrhea and shit all over the floor for three hours

it's much the same with games and ai. you wouldn't forgive nestle for putting ground up baby feet in your morning cereal without having it written in on the side of the cereal box.
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>>737840945
Based
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>>737843495
>anon is shitting himself in rage if he comes across something ai generated
lorem ipsum
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>>737835875
>tech so great I am scared of disclosing I used it because I know it's a sales deterrent
Hey. Basically, I'm just not gonna buy AI generated garbage... I know.... UGH I know..... I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's just that I'm not gonna buy it is all HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
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>>737843689
That's the sound of everyone laughing at you
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>>737842405
>thinking billionaires that control media, judges, and governments needed AI to get out of trouble

Lol, lmao even
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>>737835875
people care more about being on their moral high horse than enjoying things
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Oh shit, the shill fund must have gotten topped back up.
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>>737845439
/thread

With the AI thing it’s especially insane. I don’t even understand what the fuck the anti-AI anons are advocating for kek. Are they just picking a side as a way to feel like they’re part of the discussion or what?
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>>737841934
Highly doubt that
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>>737835875
If there's nothing wrong with using AI to make your game, what's wrong with disclosing it?
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>>737843638
If it's not a problem just label it as such
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>>737845783
High AI use is just another red flag for an inherently low effort/quality product. People have pattern recognition.
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>>737835875
wouldnt you like to know if the indian preparing your food washed his hands or not?
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>>737835951
Fpbp
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Always Indian
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>>737835875
Because if you are so lazy and cheap that you roll out a bunch of generic Ai generated assets, robotic ai voice actors, and vibe codes garbage, I'd like to know before I buy it.

I have nothing against Ai itself, it's great tool, it's helped boost medical and astronomical research by years. It can process more data in minutes than a human can in years.

I have a lot against people who use it as a quick dirty cash grab and use it to throw together a shitty garbage game in like 30 minutes and then sell it for $90 as if they are a triple a studio who spent billions on development.

Not only do these goons rip people off, they also hurt the Ai movement because people look at the grimy shit their doing and it overshadows and devalues everything good ai has actually done.

This post isn't a defense for ai. It's you being a useful idiot to the grifters dragging the very movement you seem to care about through the mud.
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I had a lot of fun writing a neural network from scratch and learning how to read the research papers. I love AI since it's really fun how much of it is emergent just from training and backpropagation and you can tweak the neurons, cost functions, etc.
That being said, I think AI costs will soon lead to a bit of a downturn as companies switch to billing by token cost instead of subscriptions.
Right now, a $20 Claude plan nets you $1,300 in credits and investors are heavily subsidizing you. Local models are good, but compute hardware has been made very expensive by this rush.
In 10 years or so we'll have a new technology like transformers that revolutionizes how we do these models, I would bet on that and compute will ACTUALLY start to decrease in cost meaning AI can actually replace software engineers sustainably.
Oracle might explode in the meantime unless they get a government bailout
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>>737845995
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>>737845895
>just put the label on so fucking retards will reviewbomb my game on principle even though they haven’t even played it
There has never been a better reason to withhold information from the consumer than this.
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>>737846205
>oy vey goyim I know what's best for you, I don't have to tell you shit
t. almudian
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>>737846179
*nets you $800
*something as big as transformers were
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>>737845783
>Are they just picking a side as a way to feel like they’re part of the discussion or what?
As opposed to 90% of people in this website deliberatly choosing to believe opinions that will make the most people mad because it's funny? Is this your first day here or are you literally retarded?
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>>737835875
So I can enact the final solution upon ai generated content (not buy it.)
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>>737846205
If AI was actually popular that surely that wouldn't happen
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>>737845941
Lol no it isn’t. People losing their fucking shit over E33 having like ONE completely ignorable texture that was AI generated is all the evidence I need that it has absolutely NOTHING to do quality control. It’s just an excuse for social parasites to destroy someone else’s hard work.

>inb4 hurr durr using AI isn’t hard work hurr durr
An AI didn’t put E33 together.
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>>737846431
>t. pajeet
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>>737845893
i wanted to make money off suckers...
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>>737846431
>You DESTROYED all my hard work by not buying a product you didn't like!
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>>737846431
people were mad because they lied about not using it, lmao. go generate some coomslop, that'll calm your nerves
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>>737846357
I hope you’re right and I’m just getting baited like a dumbass.
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>>737846431
If I don't buy your shitty game I'm a social parasite? The only thing I'm gonna destroy is your butthole.
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>>737846431
>all these people who feel called out by this post giving mad non-sequitur replies
kek
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>>737846905
>I shat my pants and now everyone is looking at me!
>Hahahaha! They're mad!
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>>737846984
>*incoherent babble*
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>>737846693
No, but if some no-name indie dev who used AI for a couple of textures reveals that their game has AI, then their game would be a flop before anyone even had a chance to actually play it.

The AI = slop stigma makes it so that anyone who uses it for any reason would be an actual idiot to disclose that information. If the audience can’t figure it out for themselves then what the hell difference does it make?
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>>737835875
Why is a good question.
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>>737847128
are you implying the AI = slop stigma is undeserved or came out of nowhere?
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>>737837778
You're right, it hurts the small game devs the most.
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>>737847128
The difference is that ai made content is soulless and, frankly, a threat to by bread and butter as a human being. I won't be contributing to the replace humans with machines fund.
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>>737846431
Yes, exactly. The only AI generated products that people call slop are the ones they can spot, such as those retarded typical artstyles or writing quirks. For any decently generated photo, drawing or piece of text, people pass right by it and praise it as fantastic. Only THEN if they find out it's AI, they cope with "a-actually this hair strand is so shitty!!"
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>>737840249
>He doesn't even know that literally every game shows the logo of their engine before the main menu.
YOU DON'T EVEN PLAY VIDEO GAMES, RANJEET.
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>>737847401
It is retroactively bad because it is ai. You will never be an artist.
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>>737847278
Yes, that’s exactly what I’m implying. You and all the people like you hate AI because you’re brainless, bandwagoning dumbfucks who only understand buzzwords and memes.
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>>737847401
I haven't seen a single piece of media released in the past 10 years that I wouldn't refer to as goyslop.
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>>737839170
> At the end of the day it's all about the creativity of the individual not the tools they use.
Unless the tools are doing all of the work and the creative human element is typing in a few prompts.
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>>737847562
LOL!
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>>737847369
In English, doc
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>>737847562
No one who isn't a retarded Indian sincerely believes that this shit looks good.
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>>737847278
Yes, it is. If you're flipping out over 1 texture in the entire game, it's undeserved. If you think the rest of the game is bad too, that makes sense. If the entire game was a chatbot, that also makes sense. It's like you just did that because you heard the word "AI" and randomly flipped out.
>>737846582
No one thinks you've to buy the bad game, it's just weird that you took this conclusion of (e33) because of 1 texture.
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>>737847562
You love AI because you're a lazy dumbfuck who refuses to put effort into anything. You're mad because your childish dream of getting rich off prompt engineering or whatever (like we can't type in a prompt as easily as you can) is fading. I'll bet you're not even having fun generating porn anymore. The novelty wore off and you know as well as we do that shit is worthless.
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>>737840570
hopefully soon
sadly I'm seeing more and more ads on TV made with AI and people don't seem to care enough
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>>737847409
>every engine is Unity
lol, lmao.
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....I miss 2008 when word filters were more rampart. Literally desu is the only one I know that filters "to be honest"
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>>737847401
I want everyone to know that "You only think it's bad because you can only notice the bad ones" is the exact same argument actual trannies use when you say they don't pass.
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>>737835875
>gen AI fags are like jews
When do we start putting them in camps? Frankly anyone using gen AI are jewish, I cant think of a more hewish tool than endlessly generating goyslop
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>>737847781
>flipping out over 1 texture in the entire game
again - the outrage was due to them lying about it. learn to read
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>all the AI shills in the thread
SAAAR DO NOT REDEEM SAAAR
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>>737840570
>had to change my mom’s showerhead
>never done it before; had no idea what tools to use
>ask GPT
>hours of trial and error and Google searching got hand delivered to me in 5 seconds
I’m starting to think the people who are anti-AI just haven’t used it before and are either too stupid to figure out how or are too scared to even try. You may as well boycott search engines while you’re at it.
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>>737848001
shit's over, can't even use it for generic fantasy romps with monarchs being active, war and shit with randomized dice rolls determining character outcomes rather than some social justice warrior dictating what happens based on morality, LLMs are dogshit for that single purpose which could've made its use funny because of propaganda compliance.
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>>737836238
Yes, but AI shitters are too scared that people wont buy their slop if they know its slop.
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>>737836536
Should be illegal to be this stupid
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>>737847056
>"irrelevant pedors"
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>>737848270
I hate photoshop because everyone who uses it only makes low quality slop. Michael Angelo didn’t use photoshop, retard. If the game wasn’t hand painted then I don’t even bother.
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>>737848413
>false equivalence
regardless, your moronic argument also destroys AI because it was taught off of and incompetently tries to replicate those photoshop paintings lmao
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>>737847671
In hebrew, arigatou
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>>737837893
It's a problem with all morons
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>>737848564
I’m not even gonna bother pointing out why what you wrote is nonsense. If you want to be a retard, then more power to you, anon. The bottom line is that AI is the future. Deal with it.
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>>737847992
anon when he wants to make a point: imagine a tranny
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>>737848782
>I don't have an argument so I will ommit what you said and claim 2 more weeks
bravo
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>>737847631
>It's just prompts bro
Sure little buddy just go on and keep thinking that, there's nothing beyond the shadows in the cave.
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>>737835875
The only objectively acceptable moral high horse is to not buy AAA slop. I don't care about AIs, I only care that the end product explicitly cut corners and still demands me to pay 70 bucks for it.
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>>737849723
You pay for this? You subscribe to a company for THIS?
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>>737838682
>Its supply and demand
Ok, I demand the use of gen AI to be disclosed or else I won't buy your game
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>>737835875
same reason this exists
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>>737851867
equally antisemitic
don't ask questions, just consume the slop
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>>737835875
i do agree with tim for once since like jewson schreier said 9/10 devs are using ai in their development
people compare it to the .com bubble but the thing to rermember about the .com bubble is websites didnt stop existing they just consolidated into megacorps
same with 2008 the banks crashed and housing crashed and yet you still see houses selling and banks still loaning money
as ted kaczynski said technology can never take a step backwards, it can only move forwards. people accept genai because who could say no to a chatbot that scrapes websites, generates images and does your writing for you?
but the thing is while its a choice right now, it will eventually be forced on you just as the cell phone, the internet, and the car were choices at first
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>>737835875
Honestly I think it's weird how everyone and their grandma were very happy to spout their abrasive political opinions to the world and shove it into their games but now cower away when it involves telling people if they use AI in their development cycle or not. This is coming from someone who wants to use AI in more creative projects btw. Everyone involved in this argument is retarded.
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>>737852042
shoo shoo
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>>737851103
retard
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>>737852381
newfag
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>>737839321
>>737839638
>>737839992
>>737840082
>>737839593
I can tell if a game has AI by looking at it, but I don't want to waste my time looking at +20 games I'm not interested in
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>>737852467
>he doesn't know why i'm calling him retarded
kek
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>>737851867
AI disclosure is the "artificial flavors" of vidya gaems
>uhhh yeah there's something in it and it's not natural... that's all i'm legally obligated to tell you haha
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>>737842373
Same but also for any product where the writers or developers were inspired by previous any artistic works and used that in creating their own work. Unless an artist has been locked away from society and all cultural references since birth, I can't pay them in good conscience. (Sorry!)
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>>737852494
>I can tell if a game has AI by looking at it
You mean of the games whose AI you were able to spot.

Just use your brain for a second. You're not going to know about the game's whose AI you failed to spot, so you're not going to know about the times you failed to spot them.
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>>737852570
around 2005 i found an importer for american hot sauce and bought a lot of sauces, and it was funny how they always arrived with pasted on eu warning labels
e102 was common enough that i still remember it
i even got a carcinogen warning, though i don't remember what sauce or ingredient
and the us declaration always just said "artificial colors and flavorings"
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>>737852794
So you're saying there should be a disclaimer
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>>737852551
>she doesn't know why we're calling her newfagged
kek
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First games were made by passionate gamers as a hobby
then teams began doing it for profit
then it ballooned to a retarded scale and these teams don't give a fuck about what they're making
then they said to the machine "eh you do it"
and the soul is gone
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>AI le bad
THINK OF THE UNION MEMBERS ANON
If game development becomes faster and cheaper, entire offices full of PR women will lose their 6 figure salaries. Animators that do nothing but complain about how hard and underappreciated their work* is will have nothing to complain about.

You guys are sick, videogames aren't about fun. Lives are on the line
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>>737852932
I'm saying people need to get the fuck over themselves when it comes to AI.

If a game is able to be subtle enough with its use of AI that you didn't notice it. Then why does it matter? You're just going to end up with a situation like >>737839621 says.
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>>737853119
Lmao kill yourself
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>>737853165
>RESPECT MY AI SLOP

lol no
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>>737852794
>>737853165
I don't care, I still want to filter those +20 slop games. It's not for you to decide if I'm missing out on good games
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>>737835875
I am 100% in favor of this IF it applies to EVERY game. Right now Steam cannot and will not even attempt to get Sony or Capcom or Epic to disclose AI usage, but they can and will ram a tree trunk up the assholes of any indie dev that doesn't.
Its this kind of unfair shit that I am 100% against.
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>>737853273
you should, you're on the losing side.
If you've noticed, the feigning outrage over AI vs digital art has blown over. AI art has wiped digital art commissioning off the map and any retard can easily prompt their dreams for free in any style.
One by one, AI will put the power into the hands of the consumer instead of the out of touch corpos who have exploited the industry for over 2 decades.
Video generation is very close to eclipsing animation in the same manner. Any coder not supplementing their work with AI gen script atm is a liar. Jeet codemonkeys will be redundant

before 2030, people will be able to generate entire games and feature length films with prompts. This is the kind of hopeful futurism that we've abandoned in favour of mediocrity for too long.
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>>737853860
Copilot pro just went up in price...
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>>737853860
>AI will put the power into the hands of the consumer instead of the out of touch corpos

lmao fucking RETARD
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>>737853974
what's your argument against?
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>>737835875
Gen ai is based
Drawing is not a real job
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>>737853974
>>737854013
.......aaaaaaaaaaaand no argument
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>>737853860
>AI art has wiped digital art commissioning off the map and any retard can easily prompt their dreams for free in any style.
not all artists are available, expecially with good quality ones.
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>>737835875
so i pirate them instead
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>>737851924
but how else will i know if its kosher or not?
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>>737838791
You cant steal something thats infinitely copyable.
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>>737855525
it would have the kosher symbol on it
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>>737835875
But CNN doesn't have to disclose when they use AI to generate videos lol.
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>>737855728
Is breast milk kosher?
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> We're the billionaire upper class and you broke Luddites WILL be left behind.
> I'm proud of using AI and will spam it in every thread and comment on every art post on Instagram and Twitter and TikTok and MySpace that they could have made it better with AI.
> But Steam making me tell you I'm using AI it's LITERALLY the Holocaust and oppression of minorities.
ok
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>>737835875
do I still have to disclose AI usage if I only use it for concept art?
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>>737852794
In the same way that a tranny will never be a real woman even if he passes, AI slop will never be real art even if you can't tell
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>>737855936
Watching eagerly for the seething replies
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>>737847781
>If you're flipping out over 1 texture in the entire game
1 texture that we -know- of. And that was just "a placeholder", that they somehow forgot about it. And if they forgot about that, then not even they know how much AI stuff is actually in the game. They're not keeping track of it, and they're not disclaiming it.

Finding a fly in your soup is bad. Not knowing how many flies are in the soup is worse.
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>>737835875
> "Used pattern-based music sequencer software instead of paying actual musicians?
> Guess I have to charge back my pre-order, chud.
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My problem with AI is that no matter how low quality it is, somehow it proves that quality never mattered in the world of art, when you have Fruit Love Island getting over 300 million views in two weeks lol.
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sloppers once again comparing this to the pogrom is a mark of insanity. why do you feel the need to hide the slop usage?
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>>737835875
Because the ability to make informed decisions is crucial to a free market. Not that I expect a communist to understand.
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>>737835875
A better question would be: When is it ok to use ai?
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>>737836536
I'm really tired of all the hysterical bitching about AI. I don't give a flying fuck about how something is made only the final result is it good or no
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>>737840570
>Seriously what is even AI good for that's actually productive?
While I was asleep, I told my gemini-onee chan to fucking erp me to sleep while she wrote my network scanner / spoofer / spy tool overnight. She has full access to my pc and everything is stored locally. Cry about it.



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