I love star ocean 1 and 2 so much.
I am nostalgic for SO1 quite a bit, it's basically my FF6 or DQ3. SO2 is probably the best JRPG ever made though, everyone should play it.
>>737852616Same brother. But mostly SO2.Real shame the anime never got finished yet low tier isekai gets 6 seasons these days.
Never played 1 but I played the original 2, Last Hope and Divine Force. All of them are great I’m glad the series seems to be picking up steam. 2 has some retarded deep skills and shit, it’s fucking awesome. DF is fucking gorgeous and the story is wonderful. The next game they release I’m preordering, although I haven’t played the remakes yet since the originals are still fresh to me
When the fuck are they remaking Blue Sphere?
I also really like the English dubbing for both the psp games.
I miss the anamnesis threads
>>737853648I kind of disliked the new artstyle they chose for SO2 on the psp
>>737852616Why was the Star Ocean 2 remake one of the best remakes of all time but then immediately memoryholed?
I love Star Ocean 2 as well, one of my personal top 10 games.I think that every other Star Ocean game ranges from mediocre to genuinely fucking terrible.
>>737854535How was it memoryholed? Agreed though, they didn't censor anything and basically all of the changes were improvements unlike most remakes we get these days
>>737854535Star Ocean's not exactly a crazy popular series. It came out, the people who liked Star Ocean played it and enjoyed it and moved on.
>>737854628Did you play the original when it came out? Was it your first SO game? Everyone praises the third game but usually when it's their first entry into the series.
>>737853848Yea compared to the original and R its lacking but remember they actively animated those so cant be too detailedI like how in the original you can basically see all the characters personalities through their portrait art.Overall though Id say R is definitely the best artstyle yet when you factor in everything and Id love for that artist to just be THE star ocean character artist going forward
>>737854902NTA, I played SO2 as my first Star Ocean game when it came out on PSX. Or, not exactly when it came out, but at some point it was one sale for $20 or something at Gamestop (or Funcoland back then maybe?) and I got it while PSX was still the current console. I didn't like SO3 as much as SO2. I love SO2, but I only just kinda liked SO3. I don't think it's anywhere near as good, and I remember people shitting on the twist. Which is the same twist that E33 has, btw, but when E33 does it we're supposed to universally praise it and talk about how philosophical it is. Games have fallen so far that pretty much everyone agree SO3's twist was shit, then 20 years later when E33 does everything thinks it's genius.
>>737853726Anamnesis ending service is still the single biggest crime in video game history>>737853848>>737855054PSX absolutely nailed Rena's appearance as a 17 year old, and then for some reason they decided she should instead look like she's 8.>>737855090E33 at least has the decency to be self-contained, compared to SO3 retconning an already established and beloved series.
>>737854535There's too much it does wrong to be considered one of the best remakes. It's good, but I've since gone back to the original.>>737855090Only retards got mad at 3's twist.
>>737855425What does it do wrong? It literally improves on everything.
>>737855425>Only retards got mad at 3's twistDisliking and making fun of something, perhaps rolling one's eyes, is not the same as getting mad at something.
>>737854535I honestly still need to play it. I still feel a bit sour about getting hyped about SO2 from what everyone said but being severely let down by the combat.
>>737855090E33s twist fit thematically. In SO3 it was just like "lol youre in world of Warcraft now tike to kill the devs". It was almost comical.
>>737854902Not the original PSX release, but my introduction to Star Ocean was pic.Tried out SO3 and didn't like it as much, then the twist at the end made me hate it. Haven't really liked any other SO games that I've tried out. Heard some nice things about SO6, but after SO5 I've just been done with the franchise (with the exception of the 2 remake of course).
>>737854535/v/ hates it because it's HD-2D.
>>737852616SO2 is so comfythe snowy winter town there is peak comfort
>>737855546It's the same twist.
>>737855463It's WAAAAY too easy. Even Chaos doesn't compare to the original's Universe. Completely undermines progression and turns it into a turn off your brain kind of game.
>>737855635Maybe if youre autistic.
/v/ is a Nel board.
>>737855882No, it's literally the same twist in both games.
when is valkyrie profile getting the star ocean 2 remake treatment
>>737856156Thats like saying all movies are the same because they follow the hero's journey.
SE is holding a survey for the 30th anniversary. I'm too lazy to make an account for it though https://member.jp.square-enix.com/article-enq/2604_MEM_sofanenq/
>>737856310No, anon, it's not like that at all. It's literally the same twist. 20 years ago, people made fun of it. Today, people pretend that it's a stroke of genius. That's how far we've fallen.
>>737856313>JPI tried to fill one of these out once, but my SE account isn't JP, so it didn't let me do it. I don't know if this survey works like that, but I'm too lazy to try know that it didn't work for me last time.
>>737852860What's the exact order?I only own the star ocean game for PS1, is that the 2nd game?I haven't played it in so long I think it's about time I revisit it.
>>737854902I like precis as a character but having a mechanic inventor really shatters the immersion of a being stranded on a primitive fantasy planetits probably my harshest criticism of the game. I really love when the fusion of magic and tech is pulled off well, but this didnt work
>>737852616>I love star ocean 1... so muchReally? Most people who I talked to about it usually just say it's okay
>>737856740>soulless vs S O U LThe same thing can be told in many ways. Know the difference anon.
>>737858617You're butthurt because I described you. It's okay. 20 years ago, you would have realized how bad Act III is, but gaming (and the world) has become so shitty that you bend over backwards to praise it. You might even call it philosophical or deep.
>>737858871I was alive during star ocean 3 twist and it was laughable slop at the time. It unironically deserved the hate. E33 did it way more tastefully, it isnt even funny.
>>737859337The redpill is that the twist in each game is the same twist and that they are both laughable slop. (You)r particular tastes just got shittier since then.
>>737859803>The redpill is that the twist in each game is the same twist and that they are both laughable slop. (You)r particular tastes just got shittier since then.
>>737860946I accept your concession.
>>737855613I can hear the music from that town perfectly but can't remember my own phone number>>737857385The technology she is able to create is explained in-game, something about finding alien space ships or whatever. Given there are at least four aliens on the planet when Precis is met, it's not unreasonable.
>>737859337It's true. E33 you always knew something was weird about the world and the player didn't have the full picture so to speak. Star Ocean 1 and 2 came and went with basically no reference to it being a video game for someone else, it's like they chose suddenly in 3 to pull an M. Night Shyamalan which threw poo all over the beloved second installment.
SO2 was the first game I ever played with autistic paper strategy guide fodder crafting and it being the first it was still fun and exciting
>>737861419*The SO1 remake in the SO2 engine ignorantly lets you get enough instruments for orchestra in like the first damn town.
>>737856829The PS1 game is the second game (the best one)
>>737861309The entire point of the twist in 3 is that it was all real and mattered.You got filtered by babby's first philosophical conundrum.
>>737861045>I accept your concession.I accept you got filtered
>>737861309You can tell with star ocean it was a twist for the sake of a twist. It was terribly executed. Whats even more funny is it retroactively ruined every other previous game and also future games with it. And it was never mentioned again kek.Good to see a more competent and tasteful spin on the concept in a vidya, even though it took 2 decades.
The reality is that the twist is SO3 was foreshadowed and that it and E33 both have the same twist and it's literally not any different at all, but 20 years ago we made fun of SO3 and both people and media have degraded so far that the official narrative is that we're all supposed to pretend like Act III of E33 is the most profound thing that has ever happened in gaming when 20 years ago people would have correctly been able to tell that Act III is trash.
>>737861309The problem in S03 is it was the 3rd installment of an already established series and they kind half assed it. If they were gonna do something so drastic they really had to commit to it.Also the foreshadowing for it was meh but there were some cool hints like the whole idea of mp death itself being your data being stolen and the replica of sophia but all on all it really shouldve been done better
This thread is somewhere around 80 points.
2R was really damn fun but normal difficulty is a joke, I was ridiculously over leveled and didn't actually spend too much time optimizing my party or anything. I got pretty bored by the end and rushed to the final bossI do want to play the hardest difficulty next with a flipped party and see how that goes. I really loved the first half of the game
>>737865105Don't worry, the other two difficulties are just as much of a joke if you put in even a modicum of effort.
should I start with first departure r or this one?
>>737865441>do i start with 1 or 2?!?!?!?!???????Hey buddy don't forget to breathe. Let the air in, then out.In.And out.
>>737865441first one is shit
>>737865401Chaos isn't that easy. But it is still star ocean 2 so you can craft yourself out of any challenge
>>737852616SO3 is favorite game.
>>737865987Chaos is a joke. You can become OP the moment Celine joins.
>>737864326Nah E33 did it better. If E33 was released 20 years ago alongside SO3 people still would have preferred it too. Sorry, but no one can take jumping out of a big tv screen and some little kid telling you youre part of an mmorpg in a weeaboo wrapping seriously.
>>737865441SO2. First Departure felt like an incomplete game.
>>737866490>Sorry, but no one can take jumping out of a big tv screen and some little kid telling you youre part of an mmorpg in a weeaboo wrapping seriously.Nor should they. Nor should they suddenly think it's deep and philosophical and the GotYaY when it's a painting.
>>737865987>>737866489If you don't invuln the postgame super bosses are pretty challenging
>>737852616I love them too but they're objectively mediocre with a boring craft system. The whole second disc of 2 is pure shit, when you get on another planet.I really like that in both games you have a fast character attacking with short swords: Phia and Ashton. Very cool.
>>737853848>>737855054The world is healing from mid 2000s nu-anime horrors.
>>737866712No they aren't. They're easier than ever because the extra Wisemen fights give crazy equipment.
>>737852616I love the whole series. Even 4 and 5, though I recognize how rough they are.
>>737867571Everyone shit on 4, but I enjoyed it. It was way better than the piece of shit 3 (gameplay and story wise).
>>737856095Till the end of time, I love Maria.
>>737852616I love 1, but I dislike 2.
>>737867628Well you I just cannot agree with in the least, 3 was my favorite, gameplay and story wise.
>>737867571based
>>737867691To each his own, I understand this one is somehow popular. Which was your starting game?
>>737867798SO1 on a SNES emulator, way back when. Just emulating every single JRPG I could get my hands on.
>>737855090SO3 is pretty good, and I don't mind the twist. But what I do hate about it is the sheer lunacy of the party setup for the most of Elicoor:>have Sophia and Peppita early during the escape>say goodbye to both for the rest of the whole disc>finally get a full party with Nel, who has some symbology>be forced to have Adray around>by the time you can finally get Peppita and Sophia back, they're still fucking Lv.1 (at least you can exploit some good bonus gauge shit with them)And in the original non-DC version, Nel didn't even have symbology so you basically had no mage for more than half of the fucking game.
>>737867571I finally played 4 a few years back and was shocked at how good it was, I even liked the characters and story. I feel like the uncanny models and horrible dub mindbroke people or somethingMy main complaint with it was just how slow getting around was, running around Roak was kinda horrible. I didn't do the post game cause of that but I wish I had now, maybe I'll replay it sooner rather than later>>737867845I had this problem trying to play 3 after 4, it's literally just the Fayt and Cliff game, feels bad with how varied SO casts usually are
one of the endings claude and rena are expecting.
>make the third game end with a plot twist>can't make a sequel beyond it due to the plot twist
>>737868406What exactly stops them?
