Imagine the first game of your brand new company makes, a new IP with zero recognizability, takes the world by storm and ends up outselling industry veterans on the genre.That must be a rad feeling.
>>737853447That's what happens when you're passionate about your craft and design a game you'd want to play.
>>737853447>>737853469I swear, you faggots make Death Stranding fans and Last of Us 2 fans seem like normal people.
>>737853514>Death StrandingWho?
Final Fantasy 7 Remake + Rebirth still outsell it easily.
>>737853597Kinda just proving his point, aren't you?
>>737853597>falseflaggingThis is the best your brown fandom can do huh
>>737853553Classless fanbase
when your company looks like this the W was secured
>>737853447>Flawless deep combat >Great characters >Great story >Great art direction >Great OST>Waifus >Good graphics >Lots of content >Memorable moments that stay with you long after the game ends FF7 Rebirth is a 10/10 game
>>737853740At least there is a fanbase
>>737853597>7M copies of Remake>2.5M of Rebirth>Only 500k more copies of differenceOoooof not looking good for FFVIIsissies
>>737853597>"If I just combine two games that cost infinitely more to make I can almost barely somewhat beat one game made by an indie studio if I squint at the number."
>>737853853>2.5 of RebirthOfficial source?
>>737853447But the "industry veterans" have been spending the last few decades actively pissing off their former fans by telling them that they're racist and that they don't want to make games for them anymore. Sandfall just swept up that crowd.
>>737853803>stillbirthThat just has pozz and censorship.
>>737853553kek based
That's called being disruptive and that's what indies are suppose to do.
>>737854463>indie>>737854210There's nothing censored about Rebirth. It's the peak of what Nomura wanted to make.
>>737853447no dei = good sales>>737853597sad
>>737853469fpbp
I'm fine with this. Its good to see new IP selling well.
>>737853740You expect to find class on this board?
>>737853803>lawless deep combat>FF7 RebirthAt least get to the last line before the biggest lie.
>>737853514Skin issue?
Saros board
>>737856345never heard of it
>>737856952It's a dead-on-arrival PS5 exclusive made by Indians for Indians that will be laughed at on /v/ for a week and then be completely forgotten.Think The Order 1886 but with worse graphics and more browns.
>>737853447>>737853469Reddit33 cultists are mentally ill
>>737853447They spent 6 years working on it and revising it, acquiring funding, graduating into AA status. I’ve never worked on anything for 6 years.
>>737853447>sold a bazillion gajillion copies >forgotten instantly >0 cultural relevance How did this happen
>>737853803
>>737857272Arguably the most impactful game made in a decade.
>>737853447it's one of the strongest arguments ever made for why games are art
games can never be artno (You) for you
>>737857651I've never understood this perspective. The only actual argument people use to try to salvage this view is that that some video games are sometimes made for children. As if that somehow invalidates the entire medium from ever having artistic merit. But movies? Oh that's high-art of the modern age. Nothing quite screams of human creativity like watching overpaid actors in the most recent capeshit propaganda piece for two hours.
>>737857363this was the year that convinced me that final faggotroons weren't sentient people
>>737857808The only reason the "video game's aren't art" meme exists was because the review and critique of video games was openly performed by laymen, people without a formal education to allow them the nuanced perspective the so-called experts had. When it turned out some dude on YouTube having an opinion about a video game became more profitable, more popular and more recognizable than classically trained movie critics the entire industry and it's guilds (plural) threw a bitch-fit and declared the medium as unartistic in a desperate move to undermine the dude on YouTube. This was of course, in hindsight, a retarded decision as Hollywood is now practically irrelevant and so are these critics.There doesn't really exist a central argument for why video games aren't art and it's pretty much the reason no one agrees with these people.
>>737853803I would buy remake part 3 before I would buy a sequel to e33
>>737853962My gaping wide asshole.
>>737858260You and the other 8 people who still care about this series are free to do so
>>737855737What happened to rendering? Are all modern engines just shite now? It weirds me out that not only are textures, animations and other assets worse than shit made in the 2010s, but the ability to present these assets seems to be a dead art too.
>>737858445The tech industry is going through a silent depression right now. Too much outsourcing to thirdies has left the gaming sphere without experience and understanding of how technology actually works anymore. This has resulted in a ton of "band aid workarounds" being applied, like questionable upscaling, fake frames, multi-frame AA and other questionable shortcuts that allow games to temporary look better in some situations instead of optimizing to look good in all situations. Combine this with a massive hardware loss thanks to memetech like AI, bitcoin and Web 3.0 and we're stuck with very mediocre devs leading a very mediocre pack of thirdies to build very mediocre games on very mediocre hardware.
It was white.
>>737853447Did anybody actually play this? It looked like standard UE5 dreck.
>>737853447The fact that E33 is used to push a narrative instead of just being a game people like is one of the biggest reasons it’s so unpleasant
>>737853447I like the feel good stories about the devs. Particularly the sound guy. Good for him, just a dude hoping things workout someday, doing it as a hobby, and making the best vidya soundtrack there ever was.
>>737858814Yeah a few people.
>>737858880>E33 is used to push a narrativePersonally I think the "make good video games" should be the narrative and I'm glad E33 is pushing it.
>>737854625Yes but Nomura has been a confirmed slopper for a while now.
>>737858987Its kind of funny. Its like he said "nothing should be too good because then my favorite thing looks like shit beside it"
>>737859138Yeah these people weird me out.
>737853803
>>737857808it's a take for retarded old boomers who think they can gatekeep the term "art" despite never being able to define it in a way that does not include video games without excluding half of what they consider art in the first place
>>737853447Must also be a near infinite amount of pressure for whatever you're doing next.
>>737858260
>>737853553kek
>>737861526there's no pressure if you just have to do what you already know how to do, it's not like troon devs somehow lucking out on making a decent game
>>737857651Novels are also low-brow shit that will never be considered art. Your point?
>>737853447Troon game
>>737858260Makes sense considering E33 a complete game not needing of a sequel, whereas the FF Remake is a scam they're selling you 3 times.
The truth is that the game is really good and deserves all the accolades it's receiving. The cope from madden/CoD/Gachaniggers is pathetic.
>>737861526They're 100% going to make a love letter to DMC as their next game. You'll see.
>>737853514People often root for things to fail due to a complex mix of psychology, insecurity, and social dynamics. While it may seem mean-spirited, this behavior, often referred to as schadenfreude (pleasure derived from another's misfortune), stems from a variety of deep-seated reasonsHere are the primary reasons why this occurs:1. Insecurity and Self-Esteem Boost Superiority Complex: Witnessing others fail can temporarily boost a person’s self-esteem and make them feel better about their own life circumstances.Comparison Trap: According to Social Comparison Theory, when people feel "behind" or unaccomplished, they may feel "less lonely" in their failures when they see others failing too.Insecurity: Deep-rooted envy can lead to a desire to see someone perceived as "more fortunate" fail, which provides a sense of justice or "karma" to those struggling. 2. Psychological Coping MechanismsReducing Cognitive Dissonance: People often believe (consciously or subconsciously) that things will go wrong, so they root for failure to stay on the side of "what is likely to happen". This prevents them from feeling disappointed when things do go wrong, allowing them to feel "right".Escapism: People often feel high pressure and stress from their own lives, and focusing on someone else’s downfall can act as a form of distraction from their own problems. 3. Biological and Social FactorsCompetition: Humans have an innate drive to compete for resources, social status, or attention. Seeing someone else succeed can induce discomfort or insecurity, leading to the desire for them to fail."Us vs. Them" Mentality: In certain environments, such as the workplace or in fandoms, people may adopt a team-based mindset where they feel they must "destroy" the other side to win. 4. Personal Grudges and RevengePast Experience: Someone may have been hurt by a person or a group and desires to see them experience a downfall as a form of retributiontl;dr you have depression
>>737854059This
>>737867049Yeah but this board is immune to truth.
>>737857651kys faglord
>>737853447The downside: the pressure is so high that whatever game you make next, will have impossibly large shoes to fill.
>>737853447Shill how much you want, still shan't be buying this turd.
>>737868192True. I'm more of a one-wonder kinda guy myself. If a company makes 8 bad games and 1 good one I'll buy the good one and not touch the bad ones. Ssme goes in reverse, a company can make 1 good game and 8 bad ones and I'll still just play the good one.I have no loyalty to companies.
>>737853447Kepler Interactive Limited is a video game publisher headquartered in London, with an additional office in Singapore.[2] It was formed in 2021 out of a partnership between seven indie game developers at the initiative of Alexis Garavayan, incumbent CEO of the company. These seven founding studios are New Zealand-based A44, Canada-based Alpha Channel, France-based Awaceb and Sloclap, Serbia-based Ebb Software, Japan-based Swedish developer Shapefarm and US-based Timberline Studio.Employing around 50 people, Kepler also publishes productions from studios outside the group.[3] Its most notable published games include Sifu (2022), Tchia (2023), Pacific Drive (2024) and Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 (2025).
>>737868293at 8m sales i don't think anyone really cares what (You) buy or don't buy>>737868561i think i understood your point but you seem to have messed up the actual post
>>737868627
>>737867183thanks chatgpt but ressentiment != depression
>>737857808Classification autism but applied to intangible human experience. Medium of vidyagaems displays the massive fundamental contrast between objective and subjective criteria of judgement. That dissonance sends midwits into an indescribable frenzy, which is why "games are (not) art" claims are merely stated but never backed up by anything.Can a piece of software be considered a piece of art? Can a set of abstract rules? Can an experience of physical interfacing? Can a holistic result of all of the above? What if we add illustration and music and all the other established media? That's the shit you can discuss and argue about, possibly disagree. But needless to say most people can't articulate their opinions on art or follow formal logic.
>>737853447Common turn based win like usual.
>>737853447A pity about the story and the characters
>>737853447based
I do find it funny that nobody in the entire history of 4chan has ever cared about or cried about "nepobabies" until E33. It just goes to show how desperate someone is to convince everyone here to hate it.You know what else I've noooooticed?? These threads used to be full of posts about how E33 was shit because of AI. Well this thread has been up for over 8 hours and still not a single mention of it.. Why? Well SE recently made several announcements regarding AI and how much they'll be using it and have already begun using it. So I think our strongest anti-E33 fighters here might be quietly retiring the AI is bad push.They also shit on E33 in every way they can ASIDE from complaining about jeet coders, because guess what? More than half the names in FFVII Rebirth's credits are indian.Once you nootice, you can't un-nootice.
>>737853752Lorien remains based.
>>737853447Still nothing but the most overrated game ever exists.
>>737858923Those ratings are such a joke.
>>737871006The implication is clear...
>>737853447is 8M a good number?every japslop and westslop like saarfield that's hated by gaymers sells 50M+ while costing double.
>>737853469fpbp>>737853514>>737857113trannies seethe
>>737853447I'm never going to play this game.
>>737871891Your brave act of defiance has been noted, final faggot.
>>737853447What are the odds their next game gets SBI'ed?
>>737872008this
>>737853469so passionate about it that they used an AI to shit out a plot kek
>>737872184>forget 3 placeholder assets in game>"THAT'S THE PLOT LMAAAAO!!!!"A 100% save file of E33 should be uploaded as captcha for this board. Image it, no browns!
>>737872292kek, the cope is hilarious
>>737853447Most astroturfed game of the decade.
I wasn't interested in this game until I saw the round the clock, day and night, neverending seethe and schizoposting. So I played it myself and I thought it was really good.The funniest thing about all this is /v/ has bitched for over a decade about how shit everything is, and then E33 comes along and there's really no good sane reason to hate it, and it doesn't do 99% of the shit we usually hate about modern games... and look at what happens. Utterly mindbroken. E33 is like a nuke going off right at the heart of /v/. All it took to destroy this place was one actually good videogame.8/10 would love to pound Maelle's perfect 16 year old ass.
>>737872452That's the effect it has on most people. When browns throw this much shit it's usually amazing.
>>737873032I can understand why they're upset. It proved you don't need to hire half a million jeets to do shitty "coding" in order to make a game good or successful. In fact it might even be better without hiring them. E33 presents a huge threat to their entire world.
>>737872452i don't think a game has ever hit /v/ as deep as e33 didi wouldn't really call it divisive as the people who don't like it don't like good games already and this didn't really widen the splitbut it did make the split clearer, there are some people on this board who straight up don't have good taste in, or even like, video gamese33 made me realize that
>>737873142Good point. If 30ish Frenchfags can do this much, what does one need thirdies for?
>>737873168It makes it clear that the shit /v/ argues about rarely, if ever, has anything to do with the games themselves. The vast majority of the seethe in these threads is from people who haven't played it. They don't even hide it.Most of /v/ is addicted to gachaslop now anyway. So think about it: brown chimps who tap their phones all day take a break from their, ahem, "games" to screech about this actual videogame for the crime of being popular.
>>737872452>E33 comes along and there's really no good sane reason to hate itPeople who don't like this game aren't mentally well. Sanity is a high ask at that point.
>>737873168Elden Ring. There's also anons on here who have dedicated the last decade of their lives posting the same threads seething over persona 5 everyday since it released
>>737853447Good for them. Fantastic game. Did every ending and enjoyed them all.
>>737873343There's plenty of bad stuff I could say about it, but the bitching about nepobabies and AI and astroturfing and blablabla? Miss me with that gay crybaby shit.
>>737872008You can't lose something that never was.
>>737853447Freemason game
3rd best JRPG of all time, after CT and FF7
>>737853447I was enjoying the past few months when I barely heard a peep about this overrated and astroturfed AI-generated trash.
>>737873696show us the people who gave that award before taking it away, anon. I think everyone would like to see your allies in the fight against e33.shall I post the picture, anon? :)
>>737873626I like the game, its well earned win for the little guy but it's not even in the top 50 jrpgs let alone top 10.
Sometimes I wish there was a board I could discuss good video games. Not just chant for flops forever.
>>737853447Imagine the first game of your brand new company has a movie deal before it even gets released. Your daddy's venture capitalist firm, the French government, and China all somehow knew before you had ever even produced anything that your new IP with zero recognizability and an Act III which commits the cardinal sin or writing would take the world by storm and end up outselling industry veterans in the genre. That must be a rad feeling.
>>737853740>Classless fanbaseTrue. It takes a special kind of retard to shit all over 35+ years of Final Fantasy, simply because it isn't Excrement 33.
>>737858880E33 is an industry plant, the most astroturfed and artificially shilled game of all time, and no one even talks about it, it's all just culture war shit. It's so tiresome.
>>737853514E33 actually usurped TLoU2 as the most shilled game of all time, somehow. It's the only game that has won more awards than TLoU2.
>>737853447>only 8m>for multi-decade dev timeflop
>>737873816Post it let's have a laugh together>>737874061Hey cuckman they won't give your game and it's remaster/remake whatever ANOTHER goty award,give it a rest
>>737874303they took the picture off their website lolthe entire panel was just the 6 ugliest trannies you've ever seen. that's your based award recinders
>>737873928Literally everyone who likes E33 liked old FF. It's modern FF that everyone hates.Also that image is completely correct.
>>737874303>Hey cuckman they won't give your game and it's remaster/remake whatever ANOTHER goty award,give it a restWhat did butthurt schizo anon mean by this?
>>737874397>It's modern FF that everyone hates.Keep on coping, turn-nigger.
>>737874537NTA and I think E33 is the most astroturfed game of all time but>Remake sold 8m in 6 years>E33 sold 8m in 1 year>Rebirth flopped so hard SE is still silent about it
That means we're gonna see a sequel to that shit game.
>>737874780>another game where no one talks about the game, they just scream "you're brown" at each other the entire thread>they'll still try to say it was made by 33 people with zero budget
>>737874537>"shipped">digitally sold>combining both editions>counting free PS+ downloads as salesLMAOOOOOO
>400 people on staff>indie gameThe well has been tainted. This is half of why E33 will never be acknowledged as great, because you know there's something fishy going on when definitions gets stretched like this.The other half is the big bucks from Netease to Kepler Interactive to fund this "indie game". Gigantic wads of cash bought mega-advertising and internet shilling for months. 400 staff? for an alleged $10 million game? You've got to be joking.
>>737875268Kinda fishy that you spend every waking minute of your life kvetching about every single videogame and company that isn't SE. Particularly SEGA. Care to explain?
>>737873824You must be joking. I've played a ton of JRPGs, and E33 is easily in the top 10 greatest JRPGs of all time
>>737875536Based
>>737868192I'm already worried that they felt forced to stay in the Clair Obscure universe for the next game, I would have preferred they did whatever they wanted next.
>>737853447>That must be a rad feeling.I'd orgasm too if my dad had billions and told me to spend them however I wanted.>>737853469lollmao even
>>737855737>complains about combat>shows pic of graphics insteadthese two things don't correlate.
>>737853553kojimadrones...
>>737853447yeah. Thanks China.
>>737871006This
>>737875169>counting free PS+ downloads as salesproof??
>>737853447All those fake awards for not even 10M copies a year later lmao. This garbage couldn't outsell Nier Automata, what a flop.
>>737876323>>737876323>This garbage couldn't outsell Nier AutomataNier has been out for almost a decade. After one year it had sold 3 million copies.
Wtf guys... i thought FFX was peak JRPG combat??What do you mean the genre has barely evolved since the 80s??? No!! FFX is peak! PEAK!!!
>>7378535973rd times the charm right? or is it 4th now?
>>737876158They always consider those sales. When you download them, Sony thanks you for your purchase. They have never not been called sales.
>>737877170Oh right I forgot that they consider just watching a stream of a game as a sale
>>737877170>They have never not been called sales.You're thinking of something like "10 million players".
>>737877253Yes but only SE are desperate enough for a win that they would announce these "digital downloads" as sales.
>>737876158He doesn't need to prove PS+ downloads count as "sold" because that isn't what the poster says. It says "shipped & sold". The only conceivable reason to include "shipped" along with "sold" is so that you can include games which were shipped but not sold, i.e. free downloads.
>>737877387>>737877463Sounds like headcanon if you both can't prove it.
>>737877493Now don't forget to interrogate all the people making baseless claims about E33 just as hard, kiddo
reddit loves this game like fucking LOVES it - just wondering how we feel about this
>>737877546I see just a little push-back has gotten under your skin.
>>737877463Ok, if there are 10million players... where are they? Thats the size of a small country, where are these people? We dont see them posting about the game anywhereThey dont show up on any metrics other than Sony's liesWho are these people? Can we meet them?
>>737877548we're on the side of the trannies who took away their GOTY award when it turned out there was ai generated assets that got ported out shortly after release.
>>737877548I like it, but its hype is absurd, while still being a good game silksong was a far better game, just less accessible to casual shitters
>>737877493Are you willing to say with any level of certainly that SE are NOT including the PS+ downloads as sales? How confident would you be about that? And try answering instead of repeating yourself.
>>737877641Absolute.Very.Have yet to get any proof stating otherwise.
>>737853752Who would you game with?
>>737877687Yes, sony count ps+ downloads as purchases. Where's your proof SE aren't doing the same?
>>737877803You made the claim, back it up bitchboy.Don't uno-reverse me fag lmao.
>>737853447Ring Fit sold more.
>>737877864I did. You seem to have absolutely nothing.Seems a little pushback has upset you. Do you... really have NOTHING to support your "absolutely certain" claim?
>>737877951>I didI don't see no link to your claim about SE inflating sales.>Seems a little pushback has upset you.lmao no you'd.You got nothing and it shows. c'mon bitchboy, lets see those links.
>>737877687You have the burden of proof backwards. You see, a game which was provided for free on PSN or Game Pass and downloaded has, by definition, been shipped. "Sold" is a different metric which suggests that somebody exchanged money specifically for this game. If you want to claim that "shipped" does not in fact include free downloads contrary to its definition, but is actually synonymous with "sold" in this case, and yet they used both of these allegedly synonymous terms in the poster just for the sake of it, it's on you to prove that.
>>737853447>industry veteransFunny you mention, since this game was made by a full team of industry veteran, plus additional contractors, with the backing of a massive publisher. I don't know why you're still trying to shill the narrative that this is a little indy game at least a year after anyone stopped caring.
>>737878084Have you ever downloaded anything on ps+? They thank you for your purchase. Why be obtuse? If you are absolutely certain SE did not include these downloads as sales when making their 7m announcement, we'd all love to see what drove you to this conclusion
>>737853447Personally i was in love with the game since they announced it precisely because it was something new and it was kind of like Shadow Hearts. If it had been just another Souls like game i´d have not given it the time of the day but they went with a system mostly abandoned by other devs and were making an original and interesting world and story. I got kind of disappointed by the use of AI and re-used market tier assets, not going to lie, but in the end seeing how it was a small team making their first game i decided to not get too upset about it. After all i did enjoy the game. I´m curious about if they´ll be able to pull it off a second time now. After all now that they are established there will be expectations and comparisons. Their next game is sure to be compared to E33 and they won´t get a second free pass over using AI. Furthermore there is now additional pressure. Will they stagnate and play it safe to try and replicate success or will they still be able to remain somewhat creative and make something different and fresh? They´ll have to grow fast.
>>737877587What 7R criticism wouldn't get under your skin?
>>737878110>You see, a game which was provided for free on PSN or Game Pass and downloaded has, by definition, been shipped.actual fucking retard here.shipped is physical copies. digitally sold is for online purchases.pic related is before it ever went up on PS+.>>737878191You both have nothing lmao. I bet it eats away at you both.
>>737853447The best thing is when you have 'tards>But X [very popular IP from very popular decades old studio] sold X millions too!Just like >>737877936
>>737878236Sorry, you haven't provided a link that shows SE saying they are not including ps+ downloads as sales. You have nothing.
>>7378782365m before they put it on PS+And you think it sold 2 million in the time it was available for free?That seems highly unlikely but you claim this is an unquestionable truth
>>737878347yeah that makes no sense
>>737878201What exactly do you think they did with AI?
>>737878347He's just a retarded little SE warrior debunking anything negative being said about 7R. It doesn't have to make sense. He sees a 7R post that isn't positive, and he replies to say "wrong"Simple as. He will do this for hours. It doesn't have to be true, he just needs anyone being mean to 7R know they're wrong.
>>737878359It doesn't
>>737853447Brands and IPs are overrated. We need to break with the sequel hell.
2 million people decided to buy Remake digitally at full price instead of downloading it for free while it was on PS+Yes, I'm serious. You can't prove me wrong!
>>737878536lmao
>>737878536I think its more likely that 2 million people downloaded it for free in that time period
>>737878637Absolutely impossible.
>>737874537The only good modern FF is Jack's game, nobody cares about Stllbirth.
>>737878795This. SOP was kino.Shitbirth legit needs not exist.
>>737878236>actual fucking retard here.>shipped is physical copies. digitally sold is for online purchases.That is not the case at all. When people talk about shipped software, they mean packaged builds distributed to end users. This is industry convention all over the internet. Shipped = distributed. It refers to digital only products as well such as updates. Not sure why you're so confidently wrong about this.
>>737878292>No you'd>>737878292>>737878359>>737878486>>737878426>2milion in 3 years? after it came to PC too?>Impossible, I will not allow it.damn you guys are boiling mad today.
C-Cameronsisters... Not like this...
>>737878987Wow it sold 2 million on PC? Looking forward to a source on that claim
>>737878987>u mad?Hard cope.
>>737878987Suddenly you seem to be ok with baseless claims that "just make sense"I don't imagine you'll take it well if we question any of these claims?
>>737879094>after it came to pc = it only sold 2m on pcreading is hard when you're mad it seems.
>>7378790947R sold 2 mil. Stillbirth sold 700khttps://gamalytic.com/game/1462040https://gamalytic.com/game/2909400
>>737879137You tell me. all it took was for me to post some facts and an image to get you riled up.You could at least post a link to back up your own claim lmao.
>>737879161What negative 7R post wouldn't make you mad?
>>737879236You spend 14 hours a day mad about 7R not being universally praised
Stillbirth troons once again having a melty in an E33 thread? Must be hard to know Final Fantasy hasn't been as popular as E33 in decades.
>>737879271It is funny how insecure the fans are despite all the, ahem, massive sales and endless winning.
>>737878359Exactly what I was thinking
>>737874061It won those awards because it's an earth-shatteringly great masterpiece and will stand the test of time. People 20 years from now will still have it as their top 5 games because that's how fantastic it is. Also, the fact that an underdog studio managed to sweep the awards like that is great for us gamers.
>>737879078>Xenotroon has a repugnant opinionMany such cases!
>>737853447Imagine being a jap jrpg dev and having an entire genre named after your goddamn country because you are so prolific in making those games. A game catalog that spans like 40 years with hundreds of titles.Then you get absolutely mogged into oblivion by literal who French cucks who surpass everything your country has ever done on their very first try. They humiliate Japan's entire JRPG library and not by a small margin either.Fucking embarrassing. The kind of shit samurai would've killed themselves over.
>>737853447Notice how it’s only fans and shells who claim this game is great. Never any objective reasons, just how much they love the game and the creators. it all smells
>>737879354>somehow make a game that appeals to journos, normalfags, old FF fans, autists and artists alike>gives FFX fags exactly what they have been clamouring for for 24 yearsIt's not leaving my top 5 anytime soon.
Seriously though, what will be the next game shilled on here?
>>737879708>Notice how only people who like the game, like the gameYeah, that's usually how it works.
The defense force for this game is really tranny-coded.
>>737853447I feel like with all the dick riding and reddit slopping, their next game is bound to be slop. Usually happens when these Nu devs that get dick ridden by redditors makes a follow up game.
>>737875268"400" is a tiny amount of people to make a game of E33's scale. Here is the amount of people needed to make a game that got downgraded twice in scope. And where the devs bragged about how little ambition they have with their game.
The final fantasy hate is so manufactured here. It’s crazy, but every mention of that series here comes from some butthurt guy comparing E33 to a 30 year old game as proof of why it’s the best game ever. This is like when crimson desert players were comparing their game to Skyrim. If a game that is older than you is still being used as a barometer than you trying to shit on it just backfires.
>>737879898Other way around, see >>737879078Troon through and through, and hating E33 because they have a victim complex over "L-le fans are mean about other JRPGs!!!"
>>737879964 >400 is tiny Hollow knight was made with 3 guys
>>737879927It'll be another UE asset flip game.
>>737879792Stop asking for mental processing from the gray NPCs.
>>737879983XIII, XIV, XV, VIIR and XVI all received a fair amount of hate on release. It's not connected to E33 at all.
What is with the seethe this game generates on /v/? I played it and it was fun and cool
>>737879983Are you joking? FF hate happens with or without E33 around.Plus you go into any FF threads and FF fans are tearing each other apart over which FF is best. And even when they all like the same FF they tear each other apart for liking or disliking the wrong thing or having different opinions on the story, or god forbid, the girls.99% of "manufactured" FF hate is schizos in the FF fanbase eating each other alive. Very few people outside the FF fanbase give a shit about FF at all.
>>737875873Both are bad.
>>737875873Ghosting artifects affect combat though. Unless it's fully turn based, which nuFF games are not.
>>737880324People really like it, and it's super praised.So contrarians go after it.
>>737880324It's a JRPG that's actually good, hence weebs get mad when it's even remotely mentioned. See also >>737879078
>>737880098And E33 was made by only 33 people if we go by that logic.
>>737853447terraria sold like 60m copies
>>737877003x-2 was peak you normfag
>>737877003Peak JRPG combat is Bravely Default/Second.E33 is actually pretty good, I certainly like it more than SMT VV.
>>737853447coolthey earned those sales
>>737853447Faggot Trantasy BFTO lmao
>>737874293>multi-decadeNot even close to true
>>737853447They could probably get another milly if they ported to Switch 2.
>>737877092AAAAAAAAH
>>737875903It's over...
>>737885674Can they even get it to run? Steam Deck is stronger than Switch 2 on average (you can see it slightly outperforming RE9 and Pragmata) and it has dips to 25 FPS.
>>737886298wasn't him, mr mouthbreather
>>737853447All industry veterans bankrolled by the lead dev‘s dad. It’s not that impressive.
>>737887039Most of the devs were juniors. Only a handful in leadership roles were veterans.
>>737887039>lead dev‘s dadThis has never been proven.
>>737853469FPBP
>>737886910This is just a straight up lie. The Switch 2 has been archived as being stronger than the Steam Deck for over a year now. Cope dude.
>>737887876Switch 2 runs RE9 at 360p, Deck runs it at 720p with roughly the same FPS.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahCBncXDYfU
It's the most astroturfed game ever. Thanks, NetEase.
>>737886910Look at FF7 Rebirth. The Switch 2 port does technically run, but it's been stripped down to something unrecognizable. Rebirth is also better optimized than E33, so the downgrades would be severe.
>>737888062What does NetEase have against it? I thought Ubisoft would be behind the astroturfing if anything. But yeah, the hate for it is so forced and artificial.
>>737888173Kepler Interactive is a NetEase-funded company, in which they have a majority stake.
>>737853447Uh, Personabros? How did it outsell the GOAT Persona 5?
>>737853447Based tbqh I hope Square Enix took notes
>>737888423>make FF XVII turn-based>give it to Yoko TaroThat's it, that's all SE needs to make a hit. I have no idea how they're so retarded.
>>737877003>>737882239FF5 was peak. Just remove the ATB make the customization and team building very important and done perfect JRPGmaybe an online mode to battle the teams of other players that could be very very fun. t. I have played all FFs
>>737879078I hate rap niggers and wiggers. Except when linkinpark does it.
>>737853447As Gaben said, just make a good game. That's it.
>>737887261Junior has lost all meaning since it’s just an excuse to pay people less.>>737887281They certainly didn’t pay those outsourcing bills with nothing.
>>737889000Junior here literally means "this is my first job". One dude has a background in theatre (props, painting walls, arrangement etc), not sure if he was classified as a junior or a regular employee.
>>737888743That shrimple.
>>737888552Platinum Games made Automata a hit. Nier is a failure. So is Drakengard.
>>737853447Bought it for the french hebe, the rest is fluff
>>737871006Noticing is really fun, but it's also like eldritch knowledge, once you recognize the patterns, you begin to see them everywhere.
>>737853514Post hand
>>737879725For me it was definitely the attention to detail that they've put into the game.>if you come back to Stone Wave Cliffs and enter it from the other side, you can find a set table with a chair, a kettle and two tea cups>Renoir likely sat there, waiting for the expedition and offered Verso a place, but received a refusal, but not before he had Gustave killed
>>737879078>"I wrote up a piece on Backloggd"Can we exterminate all pretentious weebs?
>>737853447indie game btw
>>737879078I know anime avatar autists were mentally ill but I had no idea they were so easily offended. How DARE anyone like a western game... MORE... than a japanese one!?Japan makes some great stuff but anyone who doesn't think they also produce 99% garbage is delusional.>i-it's racist against the japanese to like E33!lol
>>737853553based
>>737894863That tranny also went on the defensive afterwards and started saying he actually liked the game. I'm almost positive he never even played it, and the terrible 10x10 he posted to brag about his "taste" in the replies reeks of Reddit.
>>737894983>the cameron top 100who the fuck cares? every faggot with over 100 followers on social media thinks they're a celebrityalso probably the most "I'm online all day every day, check out my online approved list" list I've ever seen.
>>737895124>who the fuck cares?When a tranny gets validation (eg, more than 3 likes on their retarded take from their gaggle of mutilated followers), they seek more. Hence the other trannies praising him for having "SUCH GOOD TASTE" in the replies.>also probably the most "I'm online all day every day, check out my online approved list" list I've ever seen.It's SO bad he had to throw in some literal who indieshit to make it seem like he has any personality besides cutting his own dick off kek
>>737853447Imagine the pressure to make a good second game. You'd bring in all the best advisors to make sure you don't fuck it up. They'll tell you strong women characters and blacks and gays are popular, and who are you to say otherwise. After all, you just got lucky once.
>>737879078What's the link between hating E33 and wanting to cut your own dick off? It's such a strange phenomenon.
>>737895694I'm more so interested in the link of trannies and people with daddy issues hating Verso with a passion.
>>737895485Guillaume specifically wants to avoid expanding the team. Corporate oversight is one of the reasons he escaped from Ubishit.I also suspect he's one of us. Have you seen his vidya taste?
>>737894983Yikes. Do all E33 haters have taste this fucking terrible? This has to be the worst grid I've seen kek
>>737896047He spoke once about how he has no idea what CEOs and project leads at bigger companies even do. He said with 30 or so people it already felt like he was spreading himself thin to keep a hand on the pulse of each part of the project. Basically called out the heads of places like Ubisoft as useless, incompetent, retards just collecting a check.
>>737853469Thirdies seething at fippy bippy.
>>737896047He definitely is one of us, when it comes to how he had gone about doing things, it mirrors the productions of early 90's, things like Ultima and Doom came about because of similar reasons.>guy meets another guy>they have an idea>they go and pick up other people that mesh with their ideas and put their heads together>start making shit, secure funding>create something great because they don't have to answer to any middlemen and can just sit down and work in peace
>>737853469It's what happens when china decides to astroturf an absurdly expensive project with the french government by ripping off paper mario and bribing everyone to believe it's something new.~This post will get multiple replies from seething chinese bots.
>>737853447It's incredible how good games can be when you just let talented white people make them.
daddys money can buy a lot of good press
>>737853447Huh? I don't know this game. Is this the AI thing that dorito pope shilled for after Team Cherry humiliated him?
Guys is the texture streaming supposed to be wet ass? I took a break from the game for a while and I don't remember it being this bad (and I'd like to doubt somehow my hardware went to shit while I was away). Talking double digit seconds to fully load high definition textures when looking at characters.
