>There's almost more people playing Borderlands 2 than there are playing 4When went wrong with BL4? I'm not >steamcharts thread'ing this but they're both at around 3k players and 4 only has 200 more players than 2.
borderlands is midit only get midder as the sequels increase
>>7378567961 and 2 were good though, and strictly ignoring any story 3 and 4 have alright gameplay. There's no decent alternatives in it's genre still.
>>737856382Unreal Engine 5+leaving all the engine-level eye candy shit on their defaults without bothering to optimize it, causing the game to run like shit on all platforms while taxing the CPU/GPU.
what's the logic behind making a game with cel shading run like ass?
They should add in new content to 2
>>737857270That's just Duval Magic™That and it's the open world that makes it run like shit, any time you're in an instanced area the game immediately goes back to BL1/2 levels of stability
>>737857332I kinda wanna play 2 again but >no sliding>guns feel like shit even compared to just 3>slagIf there was a mod that made 2 play like 3/4 I'd play it.
BL3 hurt so bad to play I wrote the series off forever, keep in mind I was able to play tons of 2 and even the meme-sequel so that tells you how bad BL3 was
>steamie threadIts all so tiresome, most steamies are POOR, they can't afford new games. Most top steam games are free or $20 or less
>>737856382They insulted people for not owning top tier hardware. If you bought it despite that, you are a fucking cuck.
>>737856382Im just going to assume there's still no content
I found the game too easy like borderlands 3. I don’t know what they are smoking but I won’t be getting another borderlands game and it feels like their last . You can’t make a fucking SHOOTING game easy. Then it just feels like grinding.
>>737857751You run around in the open world so much by the time you reach max level everything is boring. If they just copied borderlands 2 or added like a challenge rift hardcore mode like Diablo 3 it would add longevity to the game but it’s just Ubisoft towers with fucking destiny mounts.
>>737857463>>737857332If they just remastered BL1 and BL2 to Unreal 4 (BL3's engine) with the BL3 weapon mechanics and movement, it would be an automatic win.
>>737856382runs like shit, legendaries are shit, bosses are shit, open world is shit, dialogue and story are still shit, pearls are shit, abilities and skills are uninteresting and gimicky that get boring after a whilethere is no reason to play the game, you don't miss anything if you don't play it, you are better off waiting until they release more content but also the DLCs so far have been shit too
>>737857640You're not a premium gamer?
>>737858257>You don't give all your money to the joo? what are you, a faggot?
>>737858382real fans will find a way
I still can't tell if borderlands ever had good gunplay but i liked 1 and 2. didn't finish all the dlcs for 1 because they were kinda padded out
l got bordelands 2 for free on steam, but man just like the >>737856796 said, the game is mid, it might be fun to play with a friend, and trust me l tried to get invested in the story, but the font size is smaller than my dick(which is impressive).the game progression is so slow, that bores the shit out of me, l might try it again later with a friend, because playing single player is unbearable.l assume forth game must be the same case with shitnuvo and with a price of 80 bucks(lmao)
Randy flew the coop on this one and he’s to afraid of adding PvP which would actually save this game and turn it into an MMO-liteGearbox is so dumb it’s unreal I can only imagine a bunch of nigger women working there since it’s from Texas
>>737858452>PvP in a game where people cheat very easily
>game runs like shit for no real reason>call people to upgrade their hardware when much better looking games are both cheaper and run better>ask retarded price for a game with meh amount of content>no demo, denuvo from get go, so no chance for checking if the game is good>bloat the first 2hr with everything to make you pass the refund limit when you realize you have been tricked>usual shill marketing on /v/ that dies 5 minutes after game launchthat will sum it up
It’s boring.
>>737858516What do you mean the builds are the only interesting thing about the game, it could be a wacky and nonsensical cash grab
Beyond the optimization, there's nothing to do in it after you clear a run. They finally added a raid boss but he sucks because he's invulnerable for a minute and a half while you're running around trying to not get thrown off the map and killed instantly. The open world hurts replayability a lot and it feels like you're actually discouraged from picking up a new character because you have to re-discover the entire map.Everything feels samey, you kill the same mobs and it gets very boring. Timegating events like an MMO sucks ass, I don't want to have to meander for 2 hours in real time in one area before I can retry the lunar assault to get more eridium. Legendaries went back to being too much of a pain to find. Before I dropped the game I grinded a boss for 4 hours to get a specific shield with a specific part. Not only did I not get the specific part but I only saw that shield about 3 times. A lot of incredibly bizarre design choices like the big gliding ubisoft tower launchers only launch you in one direction, so you burn half of your momentum turning around if you want to go the other way. Traited enemies can be extremely bullshit at higher levels which requires the previously mentioned grinding. I might come back to it after all the dlc and new characters are in but I'm staying away from it until then.
>>737856382>cringe dialogue>shitty gameplay>>99% of loot is uselessSoul
>>737858805I’m waiting for all the DLC bullshit to drop then will probably level my other character to max. I have the Beaner at max level and he absolutely dog walks all the content, It’s so fucking boring lol
>>737856382I’m sure there will eventually be a gun even close to as good as The Bod, but until then it’s hard to think of stuff worth grinding for.
>>737857332>They should add in new content to 2they did that some years ago, it was the scrapes of a cancelled pre-sequel dlc. it was initially free as well.
>>737858805Did they ever fix the "you keep nothing and are basically starting all the way over if you make a new character" shit?I played Vex first and wanted to try another character but when I saw that you didn't keep anything I just didn't bother.
>>737856382Because they made the game literally unplayable, and also 2 is a better game.
>>737856382>When went wrong with BL4?UE5raytracingopen world
>>737859164Since 2 they added a bank in the hub stations where you can store and move gear between save files but other than that it's starting over completely. It's less painful in 2 because it's designed around clearing it in repetition anyways through normal, then TVHM then UVHM. You can breeze through the main story in 10-15ish hours if you know what you're doing. But in 3 and 4 that philosophy has changed and it's way worse on a new character because the main story is like 40 fucking hours.
>>737859164Apparently a some stuff is carried over to the other characters now, haven't looked deeply but it was in a recent update.
>>737859296>ray tracing on a cel shaded gamewhat does that even accomplish
>>737859586the shades look MORE shaded!
>>737856382Is the presequel counted as a numbered release or something?
>>737859887isn't it basically 2.5
A ton of the fluid gamefeel from 3 like swapping modes, weapon effects (look up maliwan projectile comparisons from 3 to 4) and movement feel like a downgrade. It was all probably sacrificed to make the game function at all as an open world. On top of all that you have to rediscover the whole map on new characters, endure the mandatory stop/listen sequences that last 10 minutes for a story that isn't even worth it, then hear the ECHO com dialog that still isn't funny because the writers refuse to let go of replicating BL2 without being entertaining (which is a low bar since BL2 isn't even funny 85% of the time).
>>737857625Yeah, I only buy Borderlandses when they hit that -90% sale for $4.99 plus tip or whateverThe dialogue is too cringeworthy to pay anywhere near full price, but I do appreciate the big sales once a new iteration of cringe gets releasedI picked up BL3 during just such a sale and still have not completed it, as I can only get so far before I'm so annoyed with the story that I turn the game off
>>737859586130GB install size instead of 140GB because no lightmaps :)
>>737859164Yeah they reset your sdus but once you reapply them they apply to all your characters.
>>737860073Think it's 1.5
there's no music in 4. how do you go from having fucking jesper kyd composing your soundtracks for however many games and then not bring him back for 4. music makes a hell of an atmospheric difference, which is completely absent from 4.
im playing 3 right now. the base game was pretty meh but the dlc so far has been quite good. i'm playing as moze.i'll pick up 4 a few years from now when it's on sale with all the dlc for 20 bucks
>>737857913with how popular remakes are these days im surprised they haventit would actually be free money for them
>>737858439They had to lower 4's price to $70USD.I'm not sure anyone actually pays that though. It goes on sale literally all the fucking time. They know it crashed and burned.
>>737857332dont say that man you just know he's thinking about making a borderlands 2 remaster that will somehow look worse and add lame dialogue
