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>>737858278
oh no...
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swedebros...
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>Balance patch for PVE games

I would tell the devs to play the game on the hardest difficulty and balance it around that but the crazy fanbase would doxx me and firebomb my house.
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again? what happened this time?
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Has a studio ever fucked up a successful game this hard before? It feels like Arrowhead is doing everything in their power to piss people off
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>make causal game easier
>casuals think it was made harder
The very definition of skill issue LAMO
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Helldiver fans are almost as insufferable as tendies.
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>>737858375
Nice
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>>737858278
How is it that I always hear about how antagonistic HD2 devs are toward their playerbase? Why would people keep playing this?
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>>737858375
>I'll donate a thousand dollars to a charity if the Helldivers devs play their own game on the highest difficulty and stream it
>Proceeds to get fired from his job because of how many death threats him and his employer got
Name a worse fanbase than HD2
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>>737858375
Literally just did 6 super hell dive bugslop missions
Its just as easy as ever, explosive primary kills everything in 1-2 shots, incendiary strike kills everything else, RR still 1 shots titans and chargers, new titan causes 0 (zero) [as in nothing] damage to you when it hits you.
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>>737858505
Thanks for reminding me of that. Fucking hell
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>>737858493
Devs seem intent to find out how much you can beat a golden goose before it dies
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>>737858278
Anyway..................
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>>737858389
The game made its budget back hands over fist I doubt they care much at this point, its just about milking the last idiots who find doing the exact same thing over and over fun.
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>>737858278
Helldiver niggas are the biggest bitches
If you want a power fantasy just drop to diff 7
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>>737858278
what did the patch do?
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>Armor on Hive guards got changed to heavy pen
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING
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>>737858278
Has this chart filtered out the Chinese reviews?
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>>737858505
Did this actually happen?
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=f8hJTs4P2oQ&pp=ygUSaGVsbGRpdmVycyAyIHBhdGNo0gcJCd8KAYcqIYzv
It's up
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Helldivers 1 is better than 2.
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>>737858784
Yup lmao
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>>737858389
Runescape was fucked up so badly in 1 update that they had to restart from a 2007 backup (in 2013) or go under. The version forked from that backup is now known as Oldschool Runescape and literally has 10x the playerbase as the original.
There's also the whole Star Wars Galaxies thing.
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>>737858379
New mechs put behind a goybond
Chaff bug getting heavy armor
Reddit ama drama
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>>737858413
What did they change?
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>>737858278
Is it a review bomb if they are just the disappointed players
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>>737858389
DICE dropped the ball hard with BF6 despite all the momentum they got from the open beta
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>>737858505
That was entirely his fault for being retarded.
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>>737858915
>New mechs put behind a goybond
yeah? what else is new
>Chaff bug getting heavy armor
which bug? hive guards?
>Reddit ama drama
this is not reviewbomb worthy
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>>737858278
I mean the devs are going out of their way to fuck the game why not join them?
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>>737858784
There was no evidence, we have to take the guy at his word
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This is all happening because this is Sony's only successful live service game
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>>737858675
>conveniently ignores the change to unarmored on flesh
just aim better, unironically
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>>737858972
>hive guards?
yeah, they made the rest of the body squishier to compensate
The shield bots shield is destroy able now and can be penned by heavy pen, and so can the war strider legs. Don't strictly need antitank for the striders anymore. Chem thrower got a little buff too (range and slow in gas, gas lasts longer)
The flame turret behaves more like a chremator so it's viable now.
It's actually an alright patch, just have to redo my hive guard strategy.
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>>737858675
Just walk around them
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>>737858389
They want to get rid of the casual fucks who forced sony to demote their studio lead. The launch version of the game was significantly better than whatever this garbage is now.
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>buy a book
>author comes to your house, goes into your shelf, changes the book and puts it back without your consent
>you complain about it
>you're the toxic fan
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>>737859396
I trans <3 frogposters
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>>737859396
dumbledore is gay btw
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>>737859396
dumbledore is trans btw
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>>737859396
dumbledore is btw
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>>737858389
the first thing arrowhead did when the game succeeded on launch was hire hundreds of female employees
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>>737858278
the starcraft team shooter coming out is going to be the last nail in the coffin
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>>737858278
I swear at this point it's like a tradition
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>>737858389
Halo, from reach to 4.
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>>737858278
Let me guess. China. Again.
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>>737859396
Snape is black btw
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>>737858980
The developers never taking him up on his offer actually does count as evidence. It's just not much.
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=37QmUEEio3E
It's up
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wheeze
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>>737861146
What the hell?
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>>737858389
It's their own incompetence plus Sony forcing their live service. They already admitted they don't ever want to work with Sony again which is based and considering how long the game came out (from when it was initially teased) Sony ballooned their budget and demanded they go live service. Something they have no experience with.

Helldivers 1 was fun and simple. You could make insane meme loadouts and the only real complaint was it had DLC bloat with like 20 small DLC packs. Now they're stuck between muh realism and fun. Not even allowing shit like doubling up on stratgems. Helldivers 1 full C-4 load-out was pure bliss. Then of course the game released missing a FUCK TON of content from the first game.

It sometimes feels like I'm one of the only people on the planet who played Helldivers 1 and hates how bad 2 is.
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>>737860479
>>737858798
Fuck you go shill somewhere else.
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They buffed the fuck out of the exosuits, what are fags crying about?
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>>737861198
>Hurting the feelings of the Chinese people
Same shit with Slay the Spire 2 review bombing.
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>>737859396
>>author comes to your house, goes into your shelf, changes the book and puts it back without your consent
Amazon is doing this on your kindle
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>use Eruptor because heavy pen primary
>bounces off a hulk repeatedly
>"haha oops sorry, only the SHRAPNEL is heavy pen (no you can't reliably abuse that)!"
>now hive guards get this bullshit too
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>>737858784
He was also banned from the horse sanctuary he volunteered at for 10 years because doxxers harassed them
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>>737861467
>Buff exosuits
>But buff enemy damage
>Also buff enemy armor so exosuits and other guns can't pen them anymore.
One step forward and two steps back.
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>>737858375
The Swedes have the money to just afford professional hitmen if they wanted to do that to you. Those fucks couldn't even handle Diff5 when they streamed themselves playing once. Cue a follow up patch hiding the difficulty you're playing on almost immediately after.
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>>737858278
This is like the third time already that Helldivers 2 was review bombed
At this point they're trying to be the Gaijin equivalent of co-op and live service shooters
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>>737858389
I don't even play the game but I have seen this EXACT thread millions of times
>devs update game
>everyone mad
>nobody stops playing
>devs change update to be more in line with what the majority wants
>repeat ad infinitum
Just stop playing the game if you hate it so much
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>>737859072
I can't make my sentries aim better, they will retardedly shoot at whatever is in front of them, regardless of if they can hurt it or not.
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>>737858278
What did the Swedes do this time?
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>>737858887
Qrd on the entire thing?
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>>737861832
That is straight up War Thunder player behavior holy shit
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>>737861712
>hiding difficulty after failing a mission you chose
I've never played this game, just a regular observer, and that shit tells me SO much about the developers and how they lack tact for themselves.
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>>737858278
Why do people STILL play Helldivers 2? Genuinely asking, what is the general reason as to keep playing a game that is constanly pissing you off.
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>>737858278
>best patch the game has had probably all year
>but now you can't cheat in super credits anymore
I'm going to assume it's the Chinese again. If it's not them, it's probably the doom farming jewtube kike's fanbases that get mad at everything.
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>>737858389
Warframe, but people with lack of reading comprehension will say that the game is still successful if you point it out.
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So what did they actually do to the game
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>>737858278
What happened this time?
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>>737858278
fucking cretins will keep shitting the bed nonstop
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Did they make mechs usable yet or are they still made of paper mache
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>>737858784
It did.

>>737858980
He worked with various "community managers" to prove his statements in privacy without releasing his details and they all kept coming back saying it was real.
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>>737861884
They replaced the combat system with action bar combat, except they had no idea what they were doing so the system was (and still is) a buggy piece of junk. But that wasn't enough. They also
>changed the calculation of players and NPCs' combat level to a much worse formula, hindering the ability to gauge how strong something was at a glance because it deliberately didn't take into account all their attributes for some reason, only their highest stat and their defence
>most armour and weapons were graphically modified. A lot of the most unpopular ones eventually got reverted
>all weapons of a specific tier had their stats homogenized. A level 60 dagger was exactly the same as a level 60 two-handed sword, no matter what the weapon actually is or how hard it is to get
>all special attacks were removed completely. Most of them were brought back later
>a lot of previously melee-using monsters in the game were changed to use different attack styles, which led to retardism like fire giants with huge swords doing ranged damage from across the room, with arrow projectiles appearing from their swords (it took 10 more years for this to get fixed)
>combat equipment stats (accuracy and damage) were changed from a linear scale to an exponential scale, with monsters scaled similarly. This made it that a lot of previously powerful players with slightly lower-levelled - but still very powerful - gear were completely destroyed by monsters they'd previously been able to slaughter by the hundreds.
>Hitpoints was changed so that the vast majority of your HP came from your armour instead of your attributes, which led to so many bandaids that eventually they reverted it
>Strength was massively nerfed, granting +1 damage per level in a combat system where characters were hitting for thousands. Previously it was the main source of your melee damage that weapons boosted multiplicatively.
I'm probably forgetting a few other things, but it was an utter clusterfuck and is still bad.
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>>737858920
"Review bombing" is just the term that the institutions use to try to delegitimize negative customer feedback.

People piling in to give positive reviews? Fine.
Botting? Fine.
Paid shill campaigns? Fine.
Game journos uniting to try to hurt a game's sales? Fine.
Angry industry customers forming a train to leave negative reviews on intuitionally-favored projects that they don't like? Oi vey, this is an attack on democracy, shut it down!
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>>737863712
They can take more damage, but in the same patch they made it so all factions do more damage to vehicles in general.
So they did nothing basically.
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>>737858278
fucking again??
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>>737858389
I want to say overwatch, but I think people just got tired of it
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>>737858278
Imagine playing this when edf exists
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>>737859689
Is this what that Korean studio got the IP licence for?
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>>737865352
>suggesting reddit basedjak millenial slop
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>>737865352
Edf is soulless dogshit only sucked off because it’s Japanese. $70 plus dlc for the same ps2 game again is completely jewish. Helldivers is only $40 and you can get all the premium stuff for free
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>>737865472
>Edf is soulless dogshit only sucked off because it’s Japanese.
t. Frog Alien
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>Goysloppers 2
Shouldn't have spent money on a Swede game.
The game has fallen off as much as their country has.
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Upscaled unreal insect asset >>>> Gay artstation Arachnid knockoff
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>>737865405
Not sure you fit enough buzzwords in there.
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>>737858278
>buy a game
>theres no progression
>its all locked behind micro translations
>all the "free" stuff you have is completely useless while you watch p2w players play the game
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>>737858278
>"disaster patch"
>check notes
>enemies pierce more damage res
>this is the only major change besides exosuit HP being doubled
are HD2 players just enormous pussies or something? this is the kind of review bomb normal fans post after like the lead dev gets taken out back and shot by the publisher or something
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>>737858278
You can tell who is a gamer and who is a filthy dogshit zoomerito tourist to literally everything by who thinks games being constantly "updated" as a standard is a good thing to actually celebrate, like the little faggots did with Crimson Desert
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>>737865472
helldivers are just discount air raiders who can't roll diagnally
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>>737865352
>>737865405
>>737865472
You're all retards and Starship Troopers: Extermination is superior
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>>737865919
I love Helldivers 1/2 but its online community has a terminal discord trannie problem.
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>>737865919
>HD2 players just enormous pussies or something
Reddit managed to break the devs one time and its been a disaster ever since. The fanbase is cancer.
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>>737858278
Has there been a single month thats gone by without this fanbase having a nuclear meltdown?
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>Buffed enemies
>Buffed Exosuits
Why are people complaining?
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>>737858278
>added heavy armor to hiveguard, a common mob enemy
Lmao fuck you too you fucking faggot pieces of shit
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>>737867740
>removed armor from their weakpoints
literally git gud
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>>737858278
Again?
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>>737865919
it's not the first time they "buffed" vehicle health only to also buff enemy damage to vehicles, thus making the health buff useless
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>>737866056
I always come back to EDF after a Helldivers patch and it makes me realize just how good EDF is compared to le grunt fantasy misery porn. It's also way more challenging despite handing the players actually broken op weapons. And you're allowed to simply have. fucking. fun.
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>>737858389
not sure if it's as much of a fumble but R6 Siege was genuinely one of the most fun shooters i've played this decade
after release ubi was sabotaging it pretty hard. When they finally realized it's actually a good and relatively popular, they started supporting it properly and somehow made it worse with each season
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>>737868558
I just wish they could finally remove all the shitty nigger trash espprt maps that everyone bans 24/7 anyway like lair, fortress, night haven and emerald plains.

Literally nobody enjoys these oversized trash maps that only exist for le ebic roamer highlights.
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>>737867740
Their armor is stronger than tanks isn't it?
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>>737868742
Sure is, the tank has Medium armor
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>nobody knows what was changed
>filter reviews by language
>chinese
Every
Time
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>>737858278
The only bad thing in this update is the bugged armor passive that buffs enemies, making bugs stupid fast.
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>>737868520
BWAHAHAHA
This game is so fucking shit
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>>737869112
>>737868520
>another player shot the arm with an anti-tank rifle
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>>737868852
Why is it always the Chinese?
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>>737861832
maybe that's how we keep the game to our liking, by screaming at the devs
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>>737869168
the most butthurt subhuman species on earth
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>There are 'people' that will actually defend a fucking tank and a mech having weaker armor than common bug mobs
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>>737865352
edf fucking sucks and looks like its 20 years old while being more expensive than HD2
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>>737869501
>$50 vs $260 and counting
>MUH GWAFFIX!!!!!
lol
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>>737869168
Because HD2 is a sizable cash cow for sony
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>>737869501
In exchange edf has actual massive hordes, complete city destruction, hundreds of insane weapons and airstrikes spanning hundreds of meters and did I mention actual fucking hordes? It's the better game without forced mtx, no shame in being more expensive initially.
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>>737869501
>weeeeh a game is not PHOTOREALISTIC with Unreal Engine 5 god rays and lighting that tanks the framerate down to 40 fps!!! I want to UPSCALE MY GAMES FROM 144P FOR THEM TO RUN

lol shut up faggot
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>>737869162
Is this some kind of retarded reddit nigger cope?
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>>737869112
I remember not long ago that stepping on those spike plants as a mech would blow off both your arms, doubt anything has changed.
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>>737869638
>260 and counting
Just use cheats to get currency.
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>>737858278
There is a difference between a Review bomb and receiving mass negative reviews for a bad update.
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>>737859396
I guess as long as the author going into my shelf doesn't smell my panties, I'm okay with it.
The total happiness in the world increases :3
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>>737858926
What is wrong with the Swedes?
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>>737861198
The Chinese are some of the most fragile, entitled fucks in the world. Any time you see a game with mixed or worse reviews but you aren't seeing very many of them it's almost always because the Chinese are upset about something stupid.
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>>737861832
The game is fun but it's filled with little annoyances that add up over time. Then the devs blunder in and fuck everything up every few patches.
My favorite was when they added new flamethrower weapons combined with a nerf that made them FAR weaker and not able to even pass through chain link fences anymore. Oh and they made it look like dogshit as an added bonus.
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>>737869638
>50 buck game
>over 60 bucks of DLC
ok fag
>>737869692
it still looks and plays like something that came out 2 decades ago. Its not a 60 dollar game by any metric
>>737869751
Visuals, animations and the feel of a game are a big part of the experience. Sorry but pic related isnt good enough. It might look good for an indie studios first game they release for free
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>>737870173
>Helldivers 2
>made by swedes
>lame and gay
>unfun
>fanbase of trannies and double niggers

>EDF
>fun
>good
lol, retard
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>dogshit patch full of non changes like "we buffed weapons but increased enemy health so nothing really changes tee hee" for the 15881th time
>make mechs even easier to destroy by every enemy, despite the fact they're already made out of wet paper, on the fucking mech update
>host a AMA that was primarily responded with "idunno"
Once again, devs prove they made the game good on accident and have no fucking clue what they're doing
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>>737870173
Did you play EDF 5/6?
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>>737870514
of course he didn't, he just likes brownoid goyslop
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>>737858962
I guess making a joke on reddit is a retarded mistake.
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>>737858278
>mechs die from a breeze or even from bare fists
>get disarmed by cacti
>BUFF MECHS RETARD SWEDES for a year
>OK we will buff the mechs because we want to sell the new warbond lol
>buff mechs HP
>double damage for enemies against constructs
>mechs are as bad as they were
>but sentries, turrets and everything else got worse
Devs should get mailbombed
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>EDF is good
>but only for the memes, and the multiplayer
>make sure to get it on a deep sale
>and get this CheatEngine table to avoid the stupid randomized grind system
>and make sure to get it on sale it's totally worth getting everything at $40
I fucking miss when /v/ could talk about Helldivers 1 without annoying faggots bringing up pointless comparisons with their hidden gem kuso slop.
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>>737858784
>>737858505
>dude proposes a charity challenge on leddit, challenging the devs to play on max difficulty
>puts $1000 on the line for the devs to donate to a charity of their choice if they finish the mission
>will donate the $1000 anyways even if they don't
>some second ledditor comes along and suggests additional stipulations to the challenge, such as exclusively using notoriously dogshit call-ins and weapons - clearly to further prove a point
>savage ledditors see this as a clear attack on the devs and a mean-spirited, cruel thing to do to them
>savage ledditors then attack the first guy, operating under the assumption that he's also the second guy, and proceed to doxx him
>dude's workplace and the horse sanctuary he volunteers at get harassed, resulting in him being let go from both
>devs make a public statement saying "w-we don't support doxxing, please be nice! also it's not our subreddit, it's community-run, so we had no part in it"
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>>737858278
helldiver 2 players really will do anything except find a game with devs that don't hate them
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>>737858389
The only things it has going for it are the not-nationalist aesthetic and the reddit chungus we did it "storytelling"
They should have just made attack and defense automated and have the campaign restart when players win, like in the first game
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>HD2 just drop the worst patch ever
But that's like... Every patches, according to what I saw on internet
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>>737861832
Why stop playing when you can pretend to be part of a mob trying to strong arm devs that clearly don't actually give a shit about you
All these people is lip service to be happy again

In the case of Helldivers, the players are even more retarded than usual, though, because the devs will say shit like "we don't want to give you bad FOMO, we want to give you good FOMO" and everyone will just clap
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>>737858278
Deserved, Fuck Sweeden, Fuck arrowhead, fuck Helldivers 2
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>>737862123
it's called shit taste
even if you point other, similar games, they will insist that they wont like it and why waste time playing that when you can't even grind currency to unlock cosmetics in their favorite game
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>>737868169
But the vehicles are tankier now. What are you complaining about?
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>>737872368
Make your own thread then.
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>>737868351
It's because the devs in that game set out to actually make a fun game instead of being antagonistic while milking you for money
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>>737869459
Go on anon.
Explain to us in full sentences what exactly the problem is.

Embarrass yourself.
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>>737870926
They are literal Retards that outsource everything. The only things they don't outsource are these shitty balance changes they do.
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>>737858346
Fuck dessa negrer
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>>737869501
shit taste confirmed
continue to suffer in your swedish cuck chair
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>>737858278
>spammable trash bug is now more armored than a fucking tank

Yeah, fuck this game.
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I'm surprised more people aren't complaining about the driver check. Yeah my GPU is old as shit but it still runs the game fine now problem but now I can't run it no more because it doesn't meet the driver requirement. Stupid.
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>>737870932
Maybe it was because Helldivers 1 was a better game, you retard
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>>737872518
You can just press "continue" and it'll launch as normal.
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>>737872420
Nah, I'd rather read this one and try to understand what is causing this stockholm syndrome
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>>737872563
It crashes straight to desktop for me, unfortunately I can't bypass it.
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>>737869168
The infinite money cheat doesn't work anymore, this is the real reason for the review bomb
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>>737872583
Maybe you should stick to reading instead of replying to yourself.
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>>737872631
>there can't be more than 1 person here disagreeing with me
Alright
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>>737858505
i was about to say fans of Sony, then i remembered Hell Divers 2 launched on playstation and it made more sense.

I got the game to play with a friend, i maxed everything out to be a good teammate. but something that became abundantly clear is that a portion of the player base incapable of understanding how to evaluate the quality of gameplay mechanics. Faceblind people are to faces, what HellDivers players are to gameplay, incapable of perceiving and judging their qualities. And they get upset and defensive if you criticize poor game design.
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>>737872591
That's due to something else then.
Remove your mods.
Stop using cheat-menu.
Verify files.
Try again.
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>>737864218
Holy shit, how is it possible to be that retarded? And why not just make a new game if you want to overhaul it that much?
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>>737859272
You are smoking crack. The game nearly died after launch because it was so bad. They had to release an emergency 60 day patch before their game lost all of its remaining players.
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>>737861305
If you bought 2 after the initial trailer and expected more of 1, you're the dumbest fuck itt righ now.
How did you not notice that it's a fundamentally different thing?
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>>737872829
They did. RS3 still exists.
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>>737858278
Not the first time this shit happens
>you will make a PSN account and you will be happy
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>>737870932
This is ironic considering how people here would tell you that you should just cheat yourself all the ingame currencies instead of grinding them out
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>>737858887
It was not single update. It was multiple horrible updates culminating into Evolution of Combat most of player drop happened before it because of trade restriction. This is revisionist history by osrs players to hate on rs3 for no reason
.
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>>737872869
They tried the "haha friendly fire" couch coop vibe except that the joke in the first game was that you were playing a twin stick shooter on a 2D plane and that it was ridiculously easy to friendly fire
It really didn't translate to 3D at all
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>>737870443
The AMA responded not primarily with "idunno", it responded with "we know what you guys want, but it is too much work" to every question.
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I feel like i see this exact thread every couple of months
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>>737872829
They didnt fuck the game with single update, jagex was forced by credit card companies to stop rmt and they made so extreme changes that the whole game basically got nuked in 1 day. Eoc happened like 1-2 years after the real death of runescape. This is just the public fake history spouted by retarded osrs streamers/braindead viewers.
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>>737870114
Genuinely, what the fuck is wrong with them?
They deserve every review bomb and then some.

When the game came out I was playing it every day with my IRL casual friends. We mostly played diff 7 and 8, rarely going to 9.
We had lots of fun.
Then I'd play with my other group of friends and always do Diff 9 and have lots of fun.
Around the time the first big nerfs came out, the casual players all just dropped out of the game, it wasn't fun anymore.
The hardcore ones kept trying to justify it with "l2p skill issue git gud" type comments.
But the truth is, that the most fun I had, was always with my casual friends whom would laugh whenever we would teamkill accidentally, or something silly happened. That was where the SOVL was.

As expected, all the buffs they did later on didn't get my casual friends back in the game either. Now I play every couple of months. Sad.
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>>737873108
Throwing a shitfit to force the devs to make the game easier worked once and it's been nonstop meltdowns since then
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>>737873108
anti-player devs never change
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>>737864218
Thanks for this
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>>737861832
>JUST ACCEPT WHAT YOU'RE GIVEN, GOY
>DON'T FIGHT AGAINST THINGS YOU PAID FOR GETTING WORSE

Cuck mentality. Go sit in the chair.
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>>737873084
>More people don't help.
If you've ever worked on balancing a large project you would know how true this is.
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>devs shit the bed
>people want them to fix it
>erm acktually you just want the game easier!
Whats with this retarded mentality and why is it that every time a dev turns the game for the worse these faggots come out of the woodwork guzzling their cum?
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>bought the game recently
>play a few map solos
>have fun methodically taking down objectives one by one
>play with randoms
>they refuse to stay together
>each veteran player is rushing around blowing everything up
>most of my deaths are to friendly fire

This might be the one coop game that is legit more fun to play solo
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>>737873371
What's wrong with the game?
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>>737858597
Yeah, people forget that the inital MAXIMUM server capacaity was like 40k players. Their cautious expectation was to sell maybe 20k copies. Not millions.

They could've supported the game for a year and then fucked off from working forever but I suppose micro optimising the fun out of their game is more fulfulling.
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These fucking devs, I can't.
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>>737873472
exhibit A of helldivers 2 players being absolute retards and spreading fake info to be mad about
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>>737858278
havent touched the game in a while but
>buff exo suit hp
>also buff durable damage inflicted by every enemy in the game
>also set armor level from 3 to 4 for the hive guards
>because ummm uhhh ummm uhhhh
>also here's a list of new bugs we introduced, btw we didnt fix any of the old ones lmao
wtf were they thinking?
i actually thought about playing a bit again but this patch shows that AH is being as dumb as ever. guess i should just accept that the game is dead and move on.
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>>737861832
>>devs change update to be more in line with what the majority wants
Being overly dramatic and doomposting on all platforms and reviewbombing is unfortunately the only way to achieve this.
I don't feel too strong about the most recent warbond and patch but when I post about it on steam and reddit I make sure to make it sound as if the devs insulted my entire bloodline and that real lives are on the line if they don't pander to me specifially.

I didn't choose this way of communicating, it's literally the only way these devs would listen so here we are.
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>>737873494
>>737873472
Seems pretty easy to test, I think I'll hop on to test it right now.
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>>737869501
I swear it's always the same 2 people on 4chan shilling for EDF
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>>737873712
Same autists have been shilling this game for 15 years bro.
I fell for the meme and bought the latest EDF in 2018.
It was janky as fuck.
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>>737873371
Harder isn't necessarily better.
Easier isn't necessarily better.

We've just had so much hyper-casualization since the 7th gen that handholding has become the norm, and in those cases, having some respect for the audience's intelligence.is definitely necessary to improve the game. That's what we're used to arguing. Now that they've realized that making the game for Darksyde Phil doesn't necessarily result in the widest possible audience, they're having to start from scratch on the discussion of videogame difficulty.
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Why are you freaks still playing it then?
Warthunder-tier stockholm
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>>737873472
This is not a thing.
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>new fast terminids are too hard for me
>make up lie that it's a bug
>get mad when the devs don't fix the "bug"
modus operandi of helldivers 2 shitters
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>>737873909
Yep.
The playerbase is just extremely brown.
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>>737873668
that would require playing the game and thats to much to ask.
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Honest opinion on this amalgamation of 10 different games?
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>>737873545
Hive guard armor change is the most nothingburger change I've ever seen.
They don't spawn in breaches. They don't spawn in patrols. They do not make your gun sentries worthless. There are maybe 1 HG at POI and they are so easy to kill you can shoot their limbs from the front. If you bounce on their armor they STOP.
Play the fucking game.
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>>737858389
Destiny 2.
It took years, but now the game is actually dead because of how hard people got fed up with it.
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>>737862556
warframe is still massively successful because the playerbase has battered wife syndrome
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>>737874043
>because the playerbase has battered wife syndrome

where are you seeing that? i dont get that feeling at all.
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>>737858278
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>>737873909
this would be a compelling argument if the devs themselves played on a difficulty past level 4
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>>737874043
It's getting more alive nowadays thanks to Destiny 2 refugees
t. I'm one of them
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>>737873084
>erm we never intended to balance it
fucking holy shit what fucking niggers
they started this by needlessly nerfing "meta" loadout items way back when the game first came out
this is the fucking hole they dug in themselves
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>>737858962
Correct. Why the fuck do you have your info available on the internet for people to dox you in the first place? Got what he fucking deserved.
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>>737874187
>devs are bad at the game so I get to make up lies
You're brown
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>>737864218
>The Helldivers fanbase is sctually full of trannies
Is there any fanbase those faggots haven't ruined yet?
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>>737874163
Wrong use of the meme.

This is just a bunch of jeets malding they're shit at the game.
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>>737858389
>>737861305
studio isn't really fucking anything up,
majority of you bitches are just whiny redditors complaining about everything without being any good at the game or knowledgable.
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>>737865352
edfedfedf
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>>737874116
every time there is any garbage added, any complaints are drowned out by a sea of:
>bro these devs have been working over 10 years to deliver AMAZING content for FREE quit complaining
>bro I don't see why people are complaining about the new mission type, I actually am having fun (played the mission once and bought the new frame and items you need to farm from it with plat)
Even jewtubers that used to be rather critical of DE (SabuuchI) are now whole-heartedly sucking their cock on everything and calling people who complain big retards
daily reminder:
>attenuation still in the game
>devs "addressed" it by removing it from common enemies and lessening its impact (there is no difference)
>DE removed invincibility from valkyr's rework, citing "we want more active forms of invincibility"
>proceeds to give braindead invincibility out to oberon rework
>releases the garbage that is Follie's hunt
>had to tweak it like three times and it's still an unfun slog to farm
>releases hard mode perita
>gives nothing for doing it
>refuses to address bandaid augments
>doesn't even tweak warframes anymore when their prime releases, voruna only got small borderline meaningless changes due to massive complaints
let's not forget the latest drama
>Pablo saying raids are bad and they suck and no one would play them
>everything he points out is bad about raids actually applies to the shitty endgame content he made (EDA/ETA, hard mode bosses)
The only thing I will say is Rebb is definitely a better director than Steve but the bar is incredibly fucking low
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>>737858278
As soon as they found out their player base were right-wing they decided to punish them.
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>>737874252
>devs are defending themselves in this thread
lol, lmao
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>using the review feature as a community forum

Gamers are so fucking pathetic
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>>737862389
>but now you can't cheat in super credits anymore
What changed?
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>Helldiver Poo normalniggerfaggots can't get into the first game
>Can't get into EDF
>Will forever jerk off about the "early days of Helldivers Poo" like they jerked off to Gaylo
Feels good to know I'll never be that retarded
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>>737871642
>"I will put money up for you to play the game you created."
>"HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!"
I don't give a fuck if the rules were to play blindfolded, they're bitch niggers for turning it down. Fuck them, they aren't proud of their work.
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>>737873941
>>737873668
>>737873472
So I tested it on some lvl 1 bugs, getting a basic Scavenger to chase me around in medium armor, with and without the passive. Was kinda annoying since they love to stop randomly, and getting a straight run on the terrain took a bit. But in the end without the passive sprinting, I noticed the scavenger was nearly keeping pace with the player, if just ever so slightly slower (Until they stopped moving for one reason or another.) I figure like that, it should be obvious that with the armor you should be outpacing them easily then, but on testing it seems like they were keeping up in pace just like before, at least when they were in the 'full chase' mode. But then again it with it making you only 10% faster from what I've gathered, it's hard to tell, but honestly I am start to get suspicious that it might be affecting the enemies too. Once my buddies are up I'll probably have them run side by side without the armor to test if it's 'global' or not, as that should be an extremely easy way to test it at least for being truly 'global', if not for the enemies.
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>>737874746
You will never be as happy as those 12 year olds were in that picture, man.
You'll be a loveless, kissless, virgin chud for the rest of your life.
But at least you can pretend to be superior in any way because you enjoy a "hardcore" game with a peak playercount of 200 daily.
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>>737874469
Gosh I hate this fat piece of shit so much.
He always has just one job to do with a frame, one tiny tweak: making Warcry recastable or Snowglobe shootthroughable or get rid of Hydroid's hold casts; but then he has to go fuck with the entire kit, like nerfing hysteria or overbuffing avalanche so Frost doesn't even use snow globe or killing cuddle puddle for a stupid egg timer buff.

Only thing I hate more is the fanbase sucking him off every time he nerfs something cool into being useless & every time he buffs something cool so hard it becomes lame.
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>>737858278
QRD?
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>>737873472
>>737873494
>>737873668
New Spore strain bugs release crack when not killed with DoTs or Beam (ie:Scythe/Dagger) which gives bugs in the area of effect a speed boost, the new Bile Titan also vomits that crack and it doesn't actually do damage itself just ragdolls you and buffs the bugs.
Now for a unsubstantiated claim these new bugs do feel more fragile as well so the beams feel very worthwhile against them but I literally never used the Scythe before this, just the Laser Dog ages ago.
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>>737875085
chinese cheaters mad that the anticheat is working again
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Did they really not fire the Hello Neighbor saboteur yet?

Because if not, this will be like the third or fourth time he's kicked the hornet nest of players.
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>>737874713
No, I just been around in the game since the first launch week.
Every fucking day there was always something whiny losers wanted to bitch about because they were retarded, and I would always be hearing some bullshit that was either wrong or outdated by multiple patches guys would say they pulled from reddit.
Helldivers 2 is plagued by a sea of retarded imbeciles that gas themselves up on their own incompetence and lies, then whine to the devs about it.
Bots on release and the entire THING that is Mavelon Creek proves this, and continues to prove this.
An entire "vietnam" born from retarded redditors and their followers trying to blindly use a reddit build (that made you highly visible but let you survive being a fucking retard who can't dodge a lil better) to plant their feet and die screaming to an enemy you were meant to break contact with and conduct asymmetric warfare against.
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>>737875084
This includes every review ever made, what does this have to do with now
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>>737874469
>>737875067
cope
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>>737858278
Why are people ok with new equipment and shit being locked behind a paywall? Not only that, but you have to grind to unlock the shit you paid for too
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>>737875667
The argument is that the devs would have little incentive to keep updating the game with stuff if they didn't. It's an AMAZING system if you cheat for super credits however.
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>>737875794
How does one cheat the system? Grind the maps where super credit shows up?
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>>737875061
>You will never be as happy as those 12 year olds were in that picture, man.
I was way happier having LAN parties with IRL friends with fully modded RTS and FPS games.
Those kids were buying Doritos for XP
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>>737875921
You can do that but it's tedious. Instead find a cheat engine table, there's been one floating around for a while, and use that. You should be able to get like roughly 10k SC in an hour by spawning them in (There's a time gate to how much SC's a player can get every half minute it seems, around 130 or so)
Did that for a bit with my buds till I got like 50k SC, so we should be set for however long this game is alive for.
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>>737875667
LIVE SERVICE
ENJOY YOUR CONSTANTLY UPDATED TO SHIT SLOP!!!
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>>737873545
Only bugs got durable increased. Retard.
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>>737858389
FFXIV they nuked their entire world and started over then were successful again until they added a tranny MC and then everyone stopped playing.
EoS soon probably.
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>>737876038
Wont you get banned for stuff like that?
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>>737876572
I'm not going to say there isn't a zero chance of it happening. But personally I've NEVER heard of such a thing happening, and as of 2 years of having used on and off cheats haven't been banned myself. It's hard to say if they even have the tools to detect it in the first place. My opinion that as long as you're not a dumbass posting info that can connect your account to cheating, you'll probably be fine.
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I've noticed Helldivers 2 dickriders have a very similar cult mentality to Bungie shills
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>>737876947
And I've noticed anyone complaining about the latest patch are all various shades of brown.
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>>737873084
they outsource most of the new shit anyway and they have more employees than ever so wtf are they doing if not balance and bug fixes??
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>>737873954
honestly its super fun because you can zoom around the map with all the movement tech and keep momentum, hope the devs never fix that
also the soundtrack is a banger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX5XZZvAyo4
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>>737858278
I hit the paywall just before Christmas 2024 and haven't played since.
I still feel scammed over paying full price for a game and then there's a progression paywall inside.
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>>737858597
>its just about milking the last idiots who find doing the exact same thing over and over fun.
The classic Fromsoft formula
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>>737880364
what does that have to do with the paywall?
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>>737858278
Why does Sony always make their games worse?
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>>737858278
isnt this game only played by toxic trannies (who will never be women) that sperg out about anything and everything?
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>>737858278
didn't even need to edit my review lol
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>>737872395
They literally aren't, they doubled mech HP and then doubled enemy damage to mechs and constructs, so your mech dies just as fast as before, but your tank, turrets, and defensive emplacements die twice as fast.

It's the same thing they tried with the Fleshmob "nerf", people complained about how tanky they were for how common they are, so the devs decreased their health from 6000 to 5000 and gave them a 20% damage resistance to compensate for the lost health. It made them squisher to the existing meta and made every other play style worse.
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PCkeks are so pathetic lol
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>>737872432
>make tank
>give it worse armor than several mob enemies
That’s about all you need. Dropping heavy armor for yourself and having the armor not actually be heavy just makes the whole thing pointless. Who wants a tank that every single enemy can pen the armor of?
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>>737882956
The day they make the tank heavy armour is the day every enemy in the game gets a pen 8 main attack.
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>>737880364
Traditional chinamen seem more tolerant than Simplified chinamen
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>>737883617
Which is retarded, because every single enemy front has units that are obviously armor penetrating. Bots have endless rocket launchers and shit. Bugs have everything bigger than a hunter. Basically everything but voteless on the illuminate front. But no, every tiny bug and bot smg need to do full damage, fuck you. Enemy weapons deflecting is just too powerful on difficulty fucking 3.
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>>737867587
Things were going great for a while, really. Then they nerfed exosuits for no reason, and it's snowballed from there.
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>>737858278
I quit when they rigged Cyberstan to lose by resetting the objective to zero. What's happened this time?
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>>737862389
>>but now you can't cheat in super credits anymore
Anyone who wanted to do that should've done that a long time ago and should be sitting on like a mountain of at least 100k sc
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>>737867587
There has barely been a month without the devs doing something catastrophically retarded or lying to their playerbase. This is just an especially bad one because one did an AMA where he basically said “Everything anybody wants is low prio” and then he pushed out a warbond that was nerfed on release. It’s a microcosm of the entire fucking game, clueless devs making pointless changes and telling everybody they’re really trying hard.
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>>737883923
Wow anon, it sounds like you want to allow the players to have F U N with an extremely limited 2person, 10 minute cooldown stratagem. This is extremely problematic.
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>>737884250
No, you’re right, every mech should be two middling support weapons that can walk that requires an entire team killing chaff to keep it alive. I should have never questioned the Grunt Fantasy. Thank you for showing me the way, I’m going to go by three warbonds and only use the weapons that can’t do anything to most enemies, like the devs intended.
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>>737858278
>another helldivers "disaster" patch
>look inside
>"WAAAAAH THE GAME'S TOO HAAAAAAWD"
kek every time
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>>737858493
They do hate their players, the playerbase is basically an abused wife at this point
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>>737884438
Nobody thinks the game is hard. At difficulty 10, the game is still incredibly easy. But the devs keep making every fun option worse, because apparently no real helldiver uses anything but the RR and explosive primaries. Who even wants to use fun options like a minigun or a mech? Those should just be worse than a guy with a rocket launcher and a plasma primary under all circumstances.
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>>737874287
>malding
Reddit word.
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>>737884438
No.
The game is a fucking unfun SLOG.
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>>737884919
If it's too difficult... have you tried lowering the difficulty?
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>>737884620
It's also non-stop, brain-dead "balance" choices that make absolutely no sense. It's like they get high as fuck, have a team meeting, and just make whatever retarded changes they came up with after hitting the bong one too many times.
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>>737884946
Low iq redit firebomber.
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>>737884947
>dude, you know what we need to do
>nerf fire again dude, they’ll never see it coming
>pff yeah, give mechs like 40% more health then make every enemy do double damage to them man!
All while they struggle to complete a difficulty 4 mission.
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>>737884438
The playerbase is incredibly whiny.

The game is in a state that most co-op games wish they were in. It's functional, has great content, bugs are mostly minor annoyances, and YET the playerbase is constantly crying because the devs don't do what THEY want.

Most of the bad reviews read like nonsense like "it's a good game, but it could be the best thing ever if the Devs weren't stupid"
And that perfectly sums it up.
It's classic gamer entitlement. Even when you have a good game, ppl will still kick and scream why it isn't even better.
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>>737858278
>'swiggers are people too'
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>>737885024
>All while they struggle to complete a difficulty 4 mission.
If they could do a D10, then I'd accept their balance choices more. Fuckers can't even do D4. I'm a shitter and I can solo D4-D5.
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>>737882956
>why come enemy can hurt me??
Yeah so you just want to be invincible like some fag.
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>>737885096
It’s a molten pile of months to years old bugs that mostly functions as a decent horde shooter when none of those bugs are currently making your game worse. Currently, mantling is so bugged that it is a struggle to finish the game’s tutorial.
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>>737884850
>t. jeet
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>>737858375
>>737858505
>>737861712
This is deep rock galactic all over again
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>>737885241
Cope, seethe, dilate.
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>>737885096
Games with tons of options appeal to players who like to optimize. They enjoy it because it makes them feel smart. This type of player spends so much time optimizing and minmaxing and metaing, that they end up feeling SO smart, they believe they're smarter than all the other players and even the developers. Yet they have no control over the game in the end, so they become frustrated. By enjoying a game too much, they actually become permanently butthurt. But also can't stop playing, because they're addicted to feeling smart. Many live service games have playerbases like that, always whining and complaining but always playing too. They also whine to feel smart, it's just another expression of their hobby.
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>>737885181
Yes, I want my heavy armor mechsuit or tank to not fear small arms fire or the three inch pocket knives of the smallest bugs. If I wanted them to be completely unable to hurt me I would just stay on foot and run away like usual.
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>>737885096
Fire, gas, and status affects don't function properly unless you're the host or close to the host. There's constant game-breaking bugs introduced with nearly every patch but the devs only prioritize fixing the ones that help players.
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>>737885360
I can assure you that most players of Helldivers are smarter than the devs. Even casual players are probably more in tune with the game.
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>>737875261
Yknow I feel the same way with the retarded arc raiders redditors who never ever stop complaining even for good things. My heart goes out to you.

The only issue I ever had with helldivers 2 is that farming for the real content (warbonds) involves you playing the most boring dogshit easy missions instead of being rewards for the hardest challenges. Very sad and ruined ny time with the game.
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>>737858278

"hell-diving" is a term used in the gay community. it describes a sexual action where two or more men are licking a farting asshole
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>>737885369
Yes. We should be able to just waddle right past everything and not have to engage with the enemy at all.
Why can't we just be invincible all the time???
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>>737884946
They made it easier you smug faggot. They gave hive guards heavy armor but less HP, which means the best weapons for killing them, explosives, are now even better at it. Light pen and fire weapons are better at killing them now too. This change only made it so med pen weapons can no longer shoot through the armor, which was already the least effective way of killing them, and obliterating the gatling/sentry turrets which will now waste all their ammo doing 0 damage to an enemy that the game spawns dozens of at the same time. No other medium enemy has heavy armor btw, except for the automaton heavy devastator (since this patch). Speaking of which, their infinite HP shield was nerfed and war striders were given a medium pen weak spot, which also made them easier to kill, so players aren't upset because the game is "too hard" now you stupid fucking nigger.
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>>737858278
what did they do to piss off the chinks this time?
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>>737885502
If your limited ammo calldown makes you invulnerable on difficulty 1, who cares? I literally already run past everything and do all the objectives, why can’t I waddle through tiny bugs without fear?
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>>737885579
updated the anti-cheat.
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>>737885584
You're too brown for this conversation.
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>>737885636
Riveting counterargument, Rajkesh. I’m sure your Brahmin “”light almond”” skin tone is a familial point of pride.
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>>737873084
mayhaps they should try using AI to balance the game then
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>>737875084
>>737880364
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurting_the_feelings_of_the_Chinese_people
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>>737858505
did the retard kill himself ?
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>>737885715
My dude maybe you should consider playing something more your speed. Like animal crossing or something. 4-across is also a strong contender.
You're simply too stupid if you can't understand why tanks and mechs can't be invincible.
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>Double magazine sizes
>Double ammo
>Double the enemies
There, the game is more fun now. This obsession with some weird balance is drawing in cancerous spergs who bounce between one extreme to the other
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>contratroons unironically more reddit than redditors themselves
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>>737885869
In what world does making something deflect small arms fire render it invulnerable to the rest of the enemy roster? Why is a robot with a pistol exactly as threatening as a robot with a rocket launcher?
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>>737885928
Would be a great change, but the game has to run on povertystations and those would blow up if they did that.
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>>737885970
>Why is a robot with a pistol exactly as threatening as a robot with a rocket launcher?
It isn't you stupid nigger.
They can both deal damage. Rocket launcher deals more damage.
Why is this a difficult concept for you to grasp? (you're brown)
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No one has mentioned a major source of frustration that has contributed a great deal to the pot boiling over, that being the absolute fucking state of the galactic war. Railroading, forced losses, and unimaginative orders are worse than ever, for bots especially since it was revealed they are the self-insert of the indian game master so any loss by them is a direct attack on his izzat. Even normalfags are noticing. You can visibly see when he's in charge and when he gets bitch-slapped back in line.
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>>737858278
>Click "play"
>Windows 95 pop-up tells me my drivers are outdated
>Have to click continue every time I want to play from now on
That's enough for a negative review
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>>737885168
they don't play their own game, they see some graph and decide to do nerfs based on it. Shout out to warframe devs they at least play their own game.
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>>737886132
The rocket launcher deals some damage every several seconds. The pistol troop deals a little damage constantly. They both end up with similar DPS. They should have taught you math like this in your english-modeled private school, saar. Very good education, very good for visa for workings saar.
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>>737886152
Who cares about the galactic war?
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>>737886152
>it was revealed they are the self-insert of the indian game master
I need proofs so I could laugh harder.
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>>737886231
>you're correct
>but not in the way I want
lol
seethe jeet.
You won't get to be invincible. So lower the difficulty or go play backgammon or yatzee.
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>>737886152
Nigga for me the great slap is paying for a full game and having a full p2w tree after level 100.
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>>737886252
Considering the galactic war is what decides what maps you have access to, everyone. Or do you like being stuck on the same nine or so identical maps for years at a time because the war HAS to be kept static?
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>>737886346
>Or do you like being stuck on the same nine or so identical maps for years at a time because the war HAS to be kept static?
Yes.
Luv' me swamps.
Luv' me bugs.
Simple as.
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>>737886328
No no no, mother chod, you are not understandings. The robots do the same damage in the same time period. If only the rocket launcher robot did damage, why would it be game breaking? Why do I need to move my tank into cover to avoid the terrifying assault rifle grunts? Why do our tanks not even serve the original purpose of tanks?
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>>737886152
As someone who enjoyed this game on release then came back around cyberstan, maybe you just play way too much
you're hyper fixated on details and invented headcanons about the game developers to justify your own imagined explanations behind the details
From the outside looking in this just reads like the classic live service playerbase member. Incredibly obsessed with his game, but always dissatisfied because it's not the game in his mind. You ever play Destiny?
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>>737886453
Anon you’d have a point if the devs weren’t about on the same level as the Dead By Daylight devs for “clearly doesn’t understand their own game”. I play the game as it is, and it’s easy. Everyone just wants better options to play the already easy game with more variety. They, after all, sell us variety.
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>>737886437
>saar why can I not of ignoring the enemy saar??
>why am I of having to shoot enemy saar??
The tank has what? Eight-fucking-THOUSAND (8000) hp and the general chaff deals less than 10 damage per shot. You're so brown.
Lower the difficulty.
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>>737858389
Risk of Rain 2. Holy shit I have never seen a game go from indie success story to AAA dog shit like that.
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>>737886453
its different than destiny.
this retard you are replying to is angry because the devs want a modicum of control over the outcomes of the events they put forth, meaning the players cannot win, and win the way they want, each and every time.

He is throwing a bitchfit because they didn't let us curbstomp cyberstan by throwing bodies of incompetent lemmings at it endlessly.
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>>737861832
truth nuke
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>>737885869
You're not on Reddit, "My Dude."
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>>737886582
Or, alternatively, I’ll just do what literally everyone else does and not bring our worthless “armor” options. Oh look at that, if I can just walk away, the enemies cannot kill me and I map clear difficulty 10 with no issues. All it took was using the same loadout everyone has been using since 2024.
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>still playing shit divers after the region lock fiasco.
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>Hive Guards have more armor than a literal fucking tank
Genuinely what the fuck is Arrowhead smoking
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>>737886701
>retard is seething because the default loadout new players can access is just as viable
dude... shut the fuck up.
I agree with the other guy
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>>737886664
Could've fooled me with all the browns ITT.
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>>737886609
Sounds like the devs are trying to run it like a ttrpg and some of the players are "that guy"
>hey I found this third party mech it's really cool... I know it looks too strong but cmoooon
>dude what the fuck this bug encounter is bullshit! why do they have armor that's not in the stat block!!!
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>>737886453
>>737886325
It's true
https://youtu.be/SbucfTBbU5s?si=iHBfkiT9BmMEbJeR
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>>737886701
>Oh look at that, if I can just walk away, the enemies cannot kill me and I map clear difficulty 10 with no issues.
Then why are you crying?
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>>737885928
Hello re**it
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>>737886749
>just as
More viable. In fact, most strategems are simply worthless. New players can’t get access to the plasma scorcher or the recoilless rifle, the undisputed kings of loadouts for two years now. They actually get fucking mechs sooner than they get those. But the mechs are worthless dogshit, so nobody takes them. I would like them to not be worthless dogshit, but this is apparently a controversial thing.
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>>737886751
if these retards had their way they would have gotten a minigun with infinite ammo that fires heavy armor penetrating rounds with the damage of a sniper rifle
>becuz its COOOL!!!
We get major orders, they have the enemy factions react and move around accordingly.
They gave us a global life limit to hit cyberstan and see how many of its major cities we could take out (via completed missions) in a reverse of our defense of super earth against the squids.
At the same time they had the automatons try to cut supply lines (with consequences for succeeding)
and these retards are bitching because they didn't get to win at everything.
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>>737886701
Maybe you should try playing the game before you post.
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>>737858278
>do bad work
>get bad reviews
>review"bombed"
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>>737886790
Because I would really like to use mechs? Because everybody is tired of a lot of presented options being utterly useless? Did you think I just really needed mechs to be good because the game is just too hard without being able to use the tank they gave us? No, I want to WANT to use my options, not just dive with my identical handful of options that were stale two years ago. I want a variety of equally powerful options.
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>>737886853
>New players can’t get access to the plasma scorcher or the recoilless rifle
>recoilless rifle
You're so god damn brown.
Why are you talking about a game you don't even play?
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>>737858278
That game still around?
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>>737886853
Mechs are perfectly viable.
You are almost certainly, like everyone else I ever hear bitching about anything in helldivers, just a worthless incompetent retard.
I run 10's as well, and I don't have to run PAST everything endlessly to get shit done like you keep trying to brag about.

My guess is that you have no idea how to engage things the way a mech is used for; slowly and mostly stationary.
So you bitch and complain about them because you tried to facetank in your mech instead of shooting everything.
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>>737886952
good catch I missed that.
dunno what that moron is trying to say at this point.
the recoiless is peak shit with a teammate to reload you.
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>>737886895
I’m level 150, playing almost exclusively on super helldive. I dive all fronts. Armor is is dogshit on all fronts, just thoroughly disappointing.
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>>737886950
>Because I would really like to use mechs?
Supreme self-report.
Absolute shitter confirmed. Both skill-wise and skin-wise.

I am no longer asking. I demand you kys.
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>>737886968
>"tanks are so fucking weak bro the bugs are stronger than tanks bro shit devs bro wtf"
>watch them try to use a tank
>they try and drive it like it's the killdozer
every time
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>>737886952
Did they make the RR a level 0 unlock?
>>737887020
Anon, I was listing the most often used things in the game, you retard.
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>>737858375
>>737861712
>>737885252
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>>737861305
>Helldivers 1 was fun and simple. You could make insane meme loadouts
I remember once joining a random open game and after few missions it was 4 Admirals left, I was running a random loadout and after few missions we were all rolling with 4 random loadouts against lvl15 missions trying to figure out how to manage with bikes and ammo backpacks etc. We still cleared every mission for hours. Amazing game and amazing players.
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>>737886819
You really conjured up a reddit screenshot of a specific reddit post you casually found while browsing reddit to own that redditfag huh. Bet he'll think twice about posting reddit shit now
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>>737886968
>don’t have to
Why would I stick around fighting a wave? Give me a single good reason I shouldn’t just leave and go complete the objectives. Fighting every ave is just a good way to make the mission take three times as long for no additional benefits.
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>>737887093
>now he's talking about levels
The RR is free and available at level fucking five (5).
What the fuck are you even trying to say here you massive fucking retard.
Kill yourself.
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>>737887093
The launcher is level 5, just a few thousand slips.
Why would it need to be unlocked at level zero you fucking retard?
A level 5 player is a new player.

>>737887168
those faggots have bitched about wanting shit like that dozens of times.

>>737887186
if you want to go fast.
don't.
take.
the.
slow.
mech.
meant.
for.
FIREPOWER.
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>>737887060
Why shouldn’t heavy armor be able to drive through several small bugs? Why is our tank more like a slightly mobile AT turret than a TANK? Why would I use the tank instead of the RR or the Quasar or similar man-portable options?
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>>737887246
if you want to drive through "several small bugs"
try playing on level 1 difficulty?
this isn't GTAV
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>>737887246
>Why would I use the tank
You wouldn't because you have no fucking friends ranjeesh.
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>>737887286
No I need to play the hardest difficulty because the game is too easy. It needs to be easier though so I can play bad and still have fun. It's called variety or something or other.
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>>737887243
If you want to win the mission, dont. take. the. worthless. mech. Also, what level do you get the scorcher at? That’s sure not level 5, that’s at the very end of the first warbond.
>>737887206
See above, Arrowhead shill.
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>>737887286
Why can’t our tank survive several small bugs, anon? I’m still looking for a good reason. Why do common enemies have more armor than our armor calldowns? Why is the tank a barely mobile AT turret with bad controls? Why can’t it be a tank?
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>>737887323
>dude I need the hardest difficulty because its too easy
>REEE WHY CANT I CRUSH THROUGH EVERYTHING EASILY

fucking retard doesn't even know what he wants lmao
>>737887329
mech works fine on any mission defending a stationary spot that isn't against bots where its too exposed.
you must not play the game often.
easiest way to get through the stationary waves is to use mechs.
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>>737887386
>dude its just a few chargers and the like
>what do you MEAN I can't have an easy OP cheat!?!?
have you tried firing the guns?
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>>737887323
>no you see it’s good that most things they try to sell us are worthless dogshit
>>737887412
Hah, easiest way to get through stationary objectives is the fucking turrets, manned or unmanned. There’s a reason every high value asset extraction plays the fucking same, and nobody brings mechs for those either.
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>>737887243
I didn't see "that faggot" posting a reddit screenshot
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>>737887456
a mech IS a turret though.
Its two turrets in one, dumbass.
let me guess, you never even tried using the mech, and never figured out there were TWO types of weapons on the default one huh?
just tried to retard stomp through bugs and threw a fit when it didn't make "running away to the objective" easier?
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>>737887329
I told you once and I'll tell you twice.
You are too brown for this conversation.

You have done exactly as I said you would. Embarrassed yourself to such an extreme degree.

Your low IQ prevents you from realizing this of course, but know that I'm laughing at your ineptitude.
>can't even string together a coherent position
lol
lmao even
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>>737887445
Anon I have an easy OP cheat, I own the plasma scorcher and a rocket launcher. The tank is, presumably, supposed to be more useful than a helldiver on foot. It isn’t. This is a problem. The tank is a giant, unarmored bullet magnet that dies to baby bugs.
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>>737887478
>too stupid to follow what is being talked about
you belong on reddit.
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>>737887574
You don't have any friends. We know.
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>>737887531
Two bad weapons or one good weapon, big thinker here. The mechs are a fragile gimmick weapon that excels in no scenarios. And they’re trying to sell us two more this week.
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>>737885928
They can't add more enemies, the ps5 cannot handle it
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>>737887590
Do I? You want me to keep you company?
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>>737887574
>The tank is, presumably, supposed to be more useful than a helldiver on foot
it is?
have you tried putting PEOPLE inside it who can work the guns?
once again.
this isn't gtav
this isn't halo or battlefield.
you need TEAMWORK to operate a vehicle effectively.

>>737887664
minigun (like the turret) and rocket launcher (LIKE THE TURRET) are "two bad weapons" huh?
nice try dumbfuck
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>>737887627
The tank is also less useful than two helldivers on foot with scorchers and RRs, I thought this would go unsaid.
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>>737858278
>Forgot about helldivers 2
>See thread on the catalog
>Check the steam page
>See pic related
Suck my ikea meatballz you swede retarded devs, never touching your shit as long as it has that rootkit.
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>>737887740
tanks are meant to be operated by 3 people minimum, dumbass :)
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>>737887740
I bet you don't even know how to drive it either.
So brown.
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>>737887719
>you need TEAMWORK
Or, get this, we use our teamwork outside of the shitty lumbering bullet magnet with no armor or barrel declination.
>to bad weapons huh
Well when your shit runs out of ammo three times as fast as the turret version, yeah.
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>>737887168
No, I saved it because it's a perfect encapsulation of what the reddit dumbfucks are like. That is every "hey guys I have an idea for a weapon/stratagem" I have seen posted.
Retard.
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>>737887779
gameguard doesn't do jack shit. You can disable it with cheat engine.
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>>737887740
Refer to this >>737887532
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>people itt don't realise that german stug crews feared the us army's M1 carbine and it's ability to pierce 200mm of RHA
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>>737869776
You can see the arm getting shot you blind mongoloid.
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>>737887782
Man it’s even worse than three people on foot with scorchers and RRs. I don’t know why you wantto die on this hill but it’s very funny watching you twitch I suppose. Or wait, should it be four, because you need the fourth person fantically defending the tank from small arms fire while it does nothing?
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>>737861403
Steam and bilibili are the only places where they are allowed to have an opinion without the government beating the shit out of them and sending them to some uyghur social credit acquisition camp, pwease undewtand
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>>737887882
>muh scorchers
>muh RRs
lol
Brown
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>>737887837
Legends say WW1 tanks weren't that effective since swords were still in use. A good cavalry charge usually put those expensive toys in shambles
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>>737887810
>no armor
you never even tried sitting in it to realize that if something hits it, it DOESNT hit you?
damn I never realized this nigga was too stupid to even SIT in the tank LMAO

Next time try getting INTO the tank, dumbass.

>>737887882
No, I just watch as your retard squad gets swarmed after expending all of your missiles and limited scorcher ammo.
no wonder you are obsessed with trying to speedrun everything.
you literally don't have anyone equipped to keep you FIGHTING for long LMAO
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>>737887924
>muh champion weapons untouched since 2024
Listen, it’s not my fault the scorcher only got dethroned by the purifier like a year later. I’m just giving you the free options that outperform every other warbond here, Jeetpest. I thought you’d appreciate that.
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>>737858505
>>737872705
Nothing to do with HD2 and everything to do with reddit, because it's not the first and not the last time something like this happened.
But you need to have at least 100IQ to understand this.
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>>737887994
Wow, my big mostly stationary ablative health pool to defend me while I do nothing of note! Thanks Arrowead!
>run out of ammo
Lol, lmao. The tank will run out before I will, much less the several people that could have wasted their time using and defending it.
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>>737888097
No, the tank carries MORE ammo than you do, stupid brown.
Try getting INSIDE of it next time and checking on those things :)
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>>737888130
The tank can’t resupply (which is free) and has less ammo than the people that could have to collectively use it. So instead, I’ll bring literally anything else other than the fragile hunk of pot metal.
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>>737871642
His workplace and the horse sanctuary should be given shit too for letting him go, this controversy is an old forgotten headline now but him losing his job had permanent lasting consequences.
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i have never seen anyone use the tank effectively outside of when i group up and play with friends on comms. and even then it's more of a novelty. it's only use is on squid bricks where it allows yout to shoot down the dropships (making the game more boring)
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>>737887996
Scorcher? Purifier? Kings of anything?
You don't even play the game retard.

You're getting your opinions from some sloptuber you watch while shitting diarrhea all over the street.

Literally too brown for this conversation.
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>>737888274
>no, these explosive weapons that dominate every warfront aren’t the best!
>NO
They just recently buffed explosive weapons on the bug front too. You have to be delusional to deny my supremacy over you.
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>>737858505
>going to reddit of all places possible
retard deserved it.
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Im still pissed they haven’t fixed that climbing bug yet because holy shit, how do you go an entire update cycle without fixing probably one of the most critical bugs in the game, one which affects a base mechanic, that being player movement
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>>737888346
You're embarrassing yourself again.
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>>737888201
>suddenly shifts goalposts to resupply
thats why you call in a new tank, turdoid :)
You are just too stupid to know how to use it.
Once again, you need to be INSIDE the tank to use it.

You could even have some people riding with support weapons, popping out of hatches to fire stuff :)

>>737888346
its a brown SO stupid and lazy he uses a mediocre kit for everything
LMFAO no wonder
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>>737888421
Did your english-style boarding school not even teach you debate? Trying to get one over the dalit by calling them brown only works in your shithole country, White men simply laugh at you.
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>>737888495
Anon I don’t have to slot in a resupply, I have to go out of my way to bring the worthless tank to take up a strategem slot and do nothing of note.
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>>737888526
>saaaar you need to debate me
nigger this isn't a debate and it never worse
did your shitty google translate teach you that debate was a synonym for any sort of disagreement?
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>>737888526
>english-style boarding school
self-report again jeet.
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>>737888570
>plays ONE way
>uses ONE set of weapons
>bitches endlessly that things don't conform to his ONE WAY
pfffft
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>>737888585
I was giving you credit, Jeetshit. Of course I recognize this has been an exchange of me humiliating you for daring to exist on my planet.
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>>737888656
nice jugaad jeet.
I'm sure your izzat is growing.

Now kill yourself so you can reincarnate as a cow or whatever.
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>>737888585
*never was
damn. brain went wacky there

>>737888656
saaar I was giving you credit now debate me properly saaar
its a fucking redditor jeet lmao
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>people complain about excessive ragdoll
>sell warbond with armor passive that reduces ragdoll
>months later
>release outta nowhere sonic bugs
>at the same time release warbond that increases player speed
2 times is a coincidence, 3 times is a pattern
let's see what the 3rd will be
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>>737888640
Things DO conform to my ONE WAY, that’s the whole problem. My ONE WAY is better than 90% of the options they add into the game. This is because they do not play their own game, and the vast majority of things they add are useless.
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>>737888723
>saaar my way is the best way because I never try anything different and its very easy
>saaar they need to make new things to make my way even easier even though I said it was too easy earlier
I can't with this pajeet bro he doesn't even keep track of his bullshit lmao
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>>737858278
I swear this game making headlines because the devs did some retarded thing has become a weekly occurrence. Same thing with Darktide now that I think about it.
Something about these Swede co-op games makes them all a never ending drama factory.
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>>737888714
The best part is that the player speed increasing armor is just worse than wearing a lower tier of armor with the extra padding passive, because it still penalizes stamina.
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>>737888830
>you should try something different, this worthless tank strategem they added makes the game harder
The tank is a gimmick you call down once that your friend group immediately recognizes as useless then never takes again. That’s kind of the entire problem, you illiterate cunt.
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>>737874252
>he never saw the devs shitting pissing and tripping over themselves as they were playing D7
lol, brownoid nigger monkey
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>>737888947
>SAAAAAR THE GAME IS SOOOO EASY ITS TOO EASY SAAAAR
>SAAAR STOP TELLING ME WAYS TO HAVE FUN ITS TOO HARD SAAAAR ARRGHHHHH ITS TOO HARD
pfffft
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>>737888723
>saar I am best at game saar
>also game needs to be easier saar
Typical jeet flip-flopping between increasing his izzat and getting his way.
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>>737889039
>using a bad weapon is FUN though
>i love watching my metal brick explode having accomplished nothing
What a grand time, I should also take AT mines, the maxigun, and the toxin thrower for maximum fun*. Imagine all of the nothing of note I can get accomplished!
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>>737888130
>tank can't handle small arms fire
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>>737889038
>can't read
Typical self-own jeet.
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>>737888947
I would express my dismay for the sorry state of the nudivers but it was the same shit in the first war as well. Trident+rumbler+jumpack only and anything going outside the SOP would drive them up the walls. So I guess nothing has changed.
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>>737889109
>making the tank have armor would also somehow make the game easier
As it is, nobody takes the tank. The game is not made harder by the presence of a strategem nobody likes.
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>>737889148
>SAARR STOP THIS I AM AN ALPHA GAMER MALE SAAAR
>SAAR MY IZZAT AHHHHH I MUST PLAY MY SHITTY META (that isn't meta)
>saaars, why is helldivers so shitty and lame and never gives me any fun?
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>>737858375
This is why EDF will always be the superior game, you get the joke weapon, the weapon that sounds like a joke but it's actually the most OP shit in the base game, the DLC weapons that outright deletes enemies, and the only balance required is your own battlefied awareness.
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>>737889214
then why is that jeet crying endlessly about how much harder it makes it for him?
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>>737889214
As was already established. The tank needs 2 players. Since you have no friends you never see anyone pick the tank.

Do try to keep up.
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>>737889178
brown
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>>737889238
Maybe they should make the fun options better? Just a thought. That was, in fact, the entire point of me proving my superiority to you before you had a stroke. Why should the tank have no armor? Why should fire seesaw between useful and worthless? Why should the majority of the game be near-identical downgrades of other options? What is fun, precisely, about using a bad option that has better sidegrades?
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>/v/ gets mad at the devs for balancing a PvE game
also /v/
>laughs at chinks for...getting mad at Slay The Spire 2 devs for balacing a PvE game
????????????
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>>737889149
Tank has 8000hp retard.
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>>737889347
>Saaar I need to have fun and be OP saaar
>SAAAAR IF I DONT HAVE IZZAT ITS NOT FUN SAAAAAR ARHHHHHHGHGHHGHGHHGH
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>>737889308
No, the tank needs four players. One to drive, one to shoot the main turret, and two to keep it alive. And after all that, it will accomplish less than the four divers would have by simply splitting up solo.
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>>737889340
>can't read
>b-b-brown
lol
This only works when the person you say it to is actually brown. Brownoid.
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>>737875256
At this point I'm convinced that Swedish labor laws make it impossible to fire him so long as he continues to abstain from litterally murdering or raping people.
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>>737889380
>gets destroyed by small arms fire
lol
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>>737889416
why does the tank need to be "kept alive" by two players?
are the tank driver and gunners retarded browns or something?
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>>737889415
>OP
You mean “not dogshit”, Jeethash. A weapon being able to perform its role is not “overpowered”.
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>>737889416
Perhaps you should try not being bad at game.

Try lowering the difficulty.
>>737889440
Same goes for you.

It has 8000hp. If that isn't enough for you then you have a severe skill-issue.
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>>737858278
Dad gamers are holding this game hostage, as soon as the devs try to make the game slightly harder they flood the sub and the steam reviews with whining
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>>737889472
Because when your tank dies to small arms fire and is incapable of rotating the turret, it dies. They built a tank destroyer that can’t take small arms fire and also doesn’t destroy enemy armor exceptionally well.
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>>737889529
Wow 8000 hp! That will surely
>a single small pack of bugs kills it in seconds
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>>737889584
>SAAAR I CANNOT ROTATE
>saar you must redeem the treads and rotate
>NOOOOO MY IZZAT I MUST CHARGE AT THE OBJECTIVE
>saaar do not do it! rotate and we can-
>NOOOO ARHHHHHH IM CHARGING BLINDLY ARRGHGHGHGH

its not hard to just turn the tank so your gunner can shoot things.
requires being white, I guess.
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>>737889643
Which sloptuber told you that?
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>>737889667
Or, get this, I can call down a stationary turret.
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>>737889696
to be fair, if you stand still dumbly wondering where the armor is because you cannot get into the tank, letting bugs swarm over it for 120 seconds or so... that IS them killing it in seconds
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>>737889584
I can just imagine the voice comms from you jeets lmao
>saar the enemy is of right!
>how do I turn saar??
>I can not of firing gun saar!
>bloody benchod
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>>737889696
The same one who told the devs to buff all enemies with superior destructive damage this last patch, actually.
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>>737889756
>400 seconds is still seconds
Oh nyo he's got us there.
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>>737858915
turrets now get 1 shot by every enemy in the game because they increased every enemy's durable damage by like 300%
so you drop a turret that has a 100 second cooldown, it kills maybe 1 enemy then gets dickslapped by an ant then the remaining 200 ants all turn towards you
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>>737889752
Why would you do that when your retarded jeet ass kept whining about how you needed to RUSH THE OBJECTIVE at all times???
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>>737889820
He sounds based. You should tell us who he is so we can upvote him for making jeets cry.
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>>737858926
well to be fair their lead did kill himself so that doesn't help matters..
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>>737889854
>What the FUCK do you MEAN I have to actually shoot the enemy and can't just drop a sentry to play the game for me????
Outrageous. How dare they.
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>>737889869
I think a tank shouldn’t die to small arms fire and should be able to run over small bugs, you’re right. I also think a mobile armor calldown should me mobile, you’re right there too. I still don’t know why you prefer the slow, shitty, unarmored tank. I guess being grateful for whatever the devs shit on your plate is a caste thing.
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>>737889584
>The tank that 1 shots everything in the game and can shoot down the overship in 3 shots is bad
Fucking brown tourists man. Go shit up r/helldivers with your skill issues.
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>>737858505
none, hell divers IS the epitome of redditslop, you got larping faggots who treat the game as real life, hate fun, lash out at anything good willed, cry loudly.
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>no more Sony meddlingto fall back on
Finally... justice... for the Railgun...
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>>737889971
>SAAAR DA TANK SHULD MAKE ME FEEL POWERFUL AND INVINCABLE AT ALL TIMES YES
yeah we know, dumbass
you are a lazy whiny bitch like most redditors bitching about the game
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>>737889989
If it wasn’t bad, it would be used. Nobody uses it, anon.
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I've read through this thread and I still have no idea what in particular people are complaining about.
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>>737890045
If your tank makes you sweat small arms fire, it is a shitty tank. Yes, the tank should make the player feel more powerful than being on foot. That’s the purpose of an armor calldown.
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>>737889950
>What the FUCK do you mean you expect your stratagems to be useful and kill some enemies in a game where 3000 enemies spawn per mission and you only have 30 bullets in your clip in your primary weapon
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>>737890047
Oh they don't?
Care to share the statistics you pulled this from?
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>>737858505
Dead by Daylight?
The horror-themed tag game.
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>>737858375
They don’t play the game at all. “Balancing” in 2026 is just watching what streamers are doing to win the game and then destroying whatever equipment they’re using.
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>>737890064
Fucking spergs man, I just want a game like starship troopers. Instead you get balance patches and retards ITT crying about how it's too hard/too easy.
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>>737874212
>Why the fuck do you have your info available on the internet for people to dox you in the first place?
If I remember correctly the mods of that sub forced him to publicly upload video proof of his intentions to donate to charity, and that video included himself and the horse sanctuary.
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A lot of the experienced and worthwhile devs left Arrowhead for Embark Studios. Helldivers 2 is managed by morons and outsourcing studios.
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>>737890104
>makes you sweat small arms fire
it doesn't.... so I guess it isn't a shitty tank huh?
glad you could agree with me, retard
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>>737890109
I mean people regularly post the BIG DATA usage statistics. Google it anon. See if you can ever find the armor calldowns in the top ten.
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>>737890064
outrage saturation to get the devs to kneel to their demands (making the game easier)
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>>737890196
frankly the game on release WAS that.
but people bitched about it being too hard.

>>737890047
>>737890109
>>737890320
those statistics literally don't matter.
90% of the playerbase is worthless retards anyways so any statistics are gonna be shit.
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>>737890320
So you pulled it from your ass.
No surprise there.
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>>737890287
When that
>8000
Health might last two objectives at max, assuming nothing that should actually kill a tank shows up, yes, it’s a bad tank. God forbid something actually more threatening than a robot with an assault rifle shows up.
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>>737890367
>frankly the game on release WAS that.
No it wasn't. The game WAS an unbalanced mess on launch.
It's in a pretty good state now.
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>>737890430
>pajeet was completely wrong
80% of high tier missions have someone calling in the tank
LMAO
get fucked you stupid pajeet lolololololololololol
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>>737871642
It was the devs that doxxed him, 100%
They are the ones that have information of his bank account if he had ever paid for the game in any way and they have his IP too. No way some random bozo on reddit can just figure it out willy nilly.
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>>737890367
>>737890369
>source?
>well that doesn’t matter anyway, it doesn’t matter that nobody likes the slow, fragile tank calldown
Arrowhead balance developers, in our very thread.
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>>737890320
>Muh Google docs
lol LAMO I only play d10 which is already a tiny % and I use the tank all the fucking time because it's funny and destroys everything in the game with ease.
You are just shit and part of the majority of shit eaters
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>>737890489
>>737890453
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>>737890453
oh no no no no jeetbros.. our response..
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>>737890453
>>737890506
>google AI result
You understand it’s pulling from the release week right? Go actually look at the current reported data.
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>saaaar the tank is shitty nobody uses it saaar I am elite izzat player saaaar
>meanwhile 80% of high level missions supposedly use the tank
>>737890563
we are redeemed saar.
he redeemed all of us.
>>737890586
saaar you told him to redeem it on da google and he did.
you bloodly benchod!
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>>737890625
>an actual jeetstroke
>AI god has lied to him once again
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>>737858278
GIVE A QRD OR FUCK OFF NIGGER
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>>737890672
>new content dropped
>also updated anti-cheat
>introduced new enemy that is fast and can threaten your life
>chinks mad
>shitters mad
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>>737890667
nah just fucking around pretending to be them.
the retard wants us to look at the pick rates for cyberstan specifically.
he is a retarded pajeet and cannot understand that cyberstan made vehicles useless because it was a dense urban map where sneaking around with heavy pen was necessary to survive, so nobody was gonna be picking the tank.
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>>737889942

He's the lucky one.
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>>737890739
The new content is bad (as usual), and the new spore strain is just Predator strain again. Yawn. They also wash buffed all mech hp but also wash buffed all enemy machine damage, so they effectively nerfed every machine calldown that wasn’t mechs.
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I really wish they could avoid fucking up this shit so frequently. Balance should be about making tools useful and at least situational viability, instead of having a handful of meta setups and being expected to buy certain warbonds to get them, while everything else gets fucked over more and more. This is supposed to be a fun sci-fi stereotypical game made for the players to feel overpowered at its best or overrun by enemies when they fuck up massively, so let 'fun' lead.

>Warbond issue
They STILL did not grant anymore "free/standard" warbonds since fucking launch. Everything is something you need to either A) pay for with real money or B) grind the fuck out of and hope it gets lucky to host supercredits. This is going to lead to people farming shit and taking advantage of every glitch possible. When you find SC, it should be 100+, not fucking 10, at the rate they are selling not just the warbonds but all of the item mall shit alone. They could easily unfuck this

>Difficulty issue
They need to figure out the differences between different levels and also make it easier for players to see what tactics are necessary against certain higher end enemies. Right now the amount of bullshit that happens on levels about 7 means many people won't bother unless they are knowledgeable about the enemies and are using the proper meta. That needs to change especially so that people can see what you're supposed to do against certain newer enemies, if its a matter of not hitting the right spot, if their armor is too thick and if so by how much, or more. However that's rarely the case. Hell, i've not played since the new patch but if the new one is supposed to be "use beam weapons or fire against the new bugs to avoid giving them all ADHD nearby" then have some callouts or some shit. I haven't even gotten into how a lot of armor, perks, gear etc.. are not worth it and we STLL don't have a DEDICATED MELEE SLOT which we should have. Fuck
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>>737890840
>wash buffed
What is this jeetery now?
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>>737890453
>Poojeet AI
2.8% usage rate on the bots as of Entrenched Division.
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>>737890862
>balance should be about making tools useful and at least situational viability
it already IS that, you shitters are just too bad to make use of them properly.
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>>737890672
>devs release retarded balance patch that breaks shit
>devs create a problem for players just to “solve” it with DLC
It’s the same shit with this garbage game every time.
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>>737890906
so its actually a 28% pick rate for the higher difficulties?
good to know
glad you could make it clear that it IS in fact a common pick
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>>737890895
How would you describe two changes that end up cancelling eachother out? Typically that is seen as “a wash”. To make it easier for ESL, I should have said “range” buffed, but that loses the point of it being “a wash”. Talk to your english tutor for idioms, they are very difficult.
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>>737890985
>mostly used by lower level players
Hah, no.
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>>737890985
>so its actually a 28% pick rate for the higher difficulties?
Poojeet, there's a decimal point between the 2 and 8. No it is not 28%, it is literally 2.8%. Here's the weapons being used the most, with the highest having a usage rate of 18.6%.
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>>737890985
three percent on d10 nigga lmao its trash
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>>737891082
if its a 2.8% pick rate then its gonna be used by higher tier players since 90% of the pop is worthless garbage.
bing bong ching chong,
multiply by 10.

>reee ur da pajeet
ooof jeet got so angry he started defaulting into projection of his shit skin
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>>737890906
>bots
lol
show us all factions dumbass.
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>>737890985
If you filter by D10 it puts it at 3%. Are you retarded or what?
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>>737858346
you just know those fucking swedes are about to go on ANOTHER vacation
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>thread about a video game on a so called video game board is full of abysmally retarded opinions
This thread is just another reason to rename this shithole from Video Games to Xitter Screencap
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>>737891147
so its not 28% but 30% pick rate among people that actually matter, got it.
thanks for making it clear that its even MORE popular than you retards pretended it was
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>>737891140
Wow, what a rigorous methodology, by pure cope magic you can turn any number into any other number.
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>>737891140
I know you're intentionally being retarded because you've been proven wrong and your ego relies on winning arguments on the internet, but you are actually the biggest retard I've ever seen.
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>>737891141
Nigger it is literally worse on the other faction. Bots are the most compatible and best use case for the tank.

1.6% on bugs D10.

>>737891212
That's not how stats work, retard. This is the percent of missions, not even players, missions that have these stratagems. Of every mission consisting of 4 people, the Bastion averages a 3% mission usage stat.
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>>737891293
>>737891295
>>737891303
How am I wrong?
You showed me the statistics for everyone and I adjusted them to filter out the dogshit retards.
You don't think retarded brown people MATTER or something do you?
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>>737891140
You're either too disingenuous or too stupid to argue with.
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>>737891371
You're right, browns don't matter, which is why I'm done with you.
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>>737891371
>I adjusted the stats to suit my argument based on nonsense I made up in my head
>How am I wrong?
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>>737891303
>Bots are the most compatible and best use case for the tank.
No it isn't.
Either way I'm surprised it's that high. Nice.
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>>737891371
Well I filtered for even more dogshit retards, which is 99%, and by my methodology the Bastion has a 300% pickrate, being taken three times per mission. The Ani-materiel rifle has a staggering 580% pickrate, being taken by every single player and then cheated in 1.8 times in every high level match.
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>>737891420
oh good you agree with me that the tank is popular because browns don't matter
good to know :)
>>737891412
>>737891456
why are you seething over browns not mattering?
90% of the playerbase has always been worthless retards regardless of what difficulty they play on.
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>>737891495
This is a level of jeetstroke I’ve not seen yet. He’s just punching numbers into a calculator and gloating. He doesn’t even know what the numbers mean.
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>>737890932
Oh go fuck yourself. This is always the excuse. Even if it was true (and its not at the moment) the content should more accurately signal what you're doing vs what you should be doing. Oh your bullets bounce off X? Does that mean that you're using light pen and it only needs medium to hit anywhere? That it needs heavy? That it needs heavy AND can only be hit in certain vulnerable areas? That it needs antitank etc? So everyone just maximizes for heavy/antitank because of course , you don't get a chance to change anything once you've dropped you already picked your loadout -you can't discover its not working. So you either overcompensate into the fucking 'meta' and/or you follow the guy who's basically level 120+ and do whatever he's doing (usually the meta, unless its a chinkoid credit farmer). If whatever you're doing REQUIRES a fully built out team all working exactly in concert like a finely oiled machine with specific kit to each used at specific times then you need to signal that ahead of time and make the rewards worth it, so people try when they have that kind of group and fuckoff when the 90% of the time they don't to do something else. Most missions are about increasing chaos the longer you stay no matter what you do!

You can't make a game where things are ultra situational yet you A) can't change in the middle of the match B) get overrun by a bunch of other enemies and claim that "Oh well you're just a shitter". Of course people are going to take the meta or the things that are safe generalist weapons instead of other things that are 99% of the time just "worse versions' of those things previously except when the stars align which may not even be that patch, that map or anything else. Hell, melee weapons taking up a slot for a 'normal' gun is never fucking acceptable because its not like you're going to ever be able to use it at a greater effectiveness over the map than having a gun or sidearm choice etc
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>>737891494
Sounds like you are just a seething brown and filtered wrong.
You cannot get better than 100%, dumbass.
Get a white person to do it next time.
Also the rifle is gonna have something more like a 15% pick rate. Its picked more for funnies.
Against bots it will be more like 21%
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uh oh melty
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>>737891550
This sounds like a LOT of words to just bitch and whine over being shit at the game.
>whining about melee weapons
oof yeah you are one of THOSE retarded shitters who wanted to be the Doomslayer, got it.
no wonder you are mad (and bad)
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>>737891589
You can literally get 400% if everyone picks the strategem. That’s how this dataset works. You need to go cool your head before this jeetstroke turns terminal.
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>>737891656
>>737891545
>salty brown is seething
poor thing.
Guess you aren't white enough to just mentally do the correct math.
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>>737891545
This is very reminiscent /vg/ schizobabble.
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>>737891701
>barely literate ape with dental disease and a calculator tries his hardest to do the White Man’s basic arithmetic
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hi gucci how ya doin :)
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to think.
first the shitskin was seething because the tank didn't let him run over everything to get to the objective
then he was seething because he didn't know how to shoot the guns (have multiple people in it)
THEN he was seething because letting it get swarmed kills it (duh!)
AND THEN he was seething because he couldnt figure out how to turn it
and now he and his fellow turds are seething because the tank that none of them can figure out how to use.... isn't being picked... by themselves.
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>>737891753
you sound REALLY angry and I think you need to just stop being a shitskin
>calculator
hold the fuck on.
you retards need a CALCULATOR to multiply by ten?
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>>737891810
I’ve never seen someone so thoroughly ruined and yet so confident. You truly are Brahmin, saar. The tanks is a good strategem saar, the google ais confirmed it! Just ignore that everybody hates it.
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>>737891653
You could have just given the normal
>gitgudhurrdurr
reply so I'd know to not give you even a second of time to consider you had a working brain.

>Melee
What the fuck is the point of the melee weapons in the game ? Most of them are included in item mall"special" credit purchases , and they take up a slot something else can use. I'm not even talking about the calldown melee weapons - which yes absolutely should make you feel like the doomslayer if you'r;e gooing to waste a calldown slot on them but with the exception of maybe the sledgehammer (if you equip it with the anti-tank shell) none of those are really worth it. The calldowns are a separate discussion but all the 'regular' melee weapons are basically entirely a joke because you never get the utility out of them that you would a standard/sidearm weapon that you give up. Give them a separate slot and let people have fun and RP with them or whatever the fuck, make them decent when up against melee but of course this is a game where enemies close surrounding you are likely to eat you alive so they're never "worth it" over another pick or the ability to keep enemies farther away from you
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>>737891870
You do, if you think statistical analysis is working up a cope percentage and then multiplying statistics you like by (1-cope)*10. Those are parenthesis by the way ranjesh, White people use them.
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Why is blud yapping?
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>>737891932
>What the fuck is the point of the melee weapons in the game
melee weapons were originally added as a silly near useless weapon because we were being pushed back to super earth and were being issued CEREMONIAL weapons, dumbass.

retards like you gassed yourselves up over it and demanded more
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Watching this schizo meltdown unfold is more fun than the actual game lul
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>>737892001
pajeets are STILL seething because they cannot figure out how to use a tank
makes sense.
you dumbasses couldnt even figure out how to CLOSE THE HATCH ON A SUBMARINE
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>saar subs are very stupid there is no point in using a boat that is already sunk
>yes saaar india pick rate of subs is very low, this means subs are very bad
I can already see the cope
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>>737892114
>grateful cowshit-eater once again stresses how smooth the consistency is, calls the refusal to eat cowshit a skill issue
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>>737892226
>saar my retarded scorcher plus RR and running away from everything is not cowshit YOU are the cowshit
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Can you still play helldivers 1?
It was on my backlog for several years and I didn't even notice until 2 came out.
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>>737892319
>one strategy wins the mission quickly
>the other does nothing but slow everything down
Sounds like cowshit to me.
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>>737892061
and that would have been fine, along with finding the "entrenching tool" on the ground somewhere, as a joke. But then, they started fagging around with adding them to not just warbonds but the fucking SC Item Mall for direct purchase (the baton, the hatchet etc) and so yeah, people are going to expect them to be useful. Nobody cared when they were one time things you found in the goddamn sand, but when they started charging for them then yeah they need to be at least somewhat useful.

Of course all of this is because the tards can't managed to just shunt them into a separate melee slot, even when they were just useless shovels. It would have cost them fucking nothing and people would have had fun with it. Its literally all they need to do to make them fun roleplaying ancillary equip, but they shit the bed and have a legion of shit defenders like yourself who think that everything is just fine that they can't either make something an fun extra nor effective (much less when they charge for it) without whining. I don't know how much lutefisk you're sucking directly from those assholes but just stop.
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>>737869913
okay I'll just use "cheats" to crack edf and play it free, now it's
>0$ vs 40$
well looks like EDF wins again
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>>737892414
how DARE you give me more silly gimmick weapons like we demanded
you sound like a retard that doesn't even understand what the game is designed to be.
This aint vermintide bro.
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This is like the 6th time it has been review bombed. Play a better game, let this one die for fuck's sake.
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>>737892510
lets all go play Darktide instead
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>>737892461
What was it designed to be? Bloated? Bad? Buggy? Because if so they nailed it so far.
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>>737892570
it was none of those things on launch, besides a few bugs.
you got what you asked for and like most retarded children that got indulged, are raging about it.
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The brown masses will really take any opportunity to tear down the great work of true aryan nordic devs
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>>737889529
>tank
>medium armor
>chaff destroys it in minutes
lol, lmao even, enjoy your 'grunt fantasy' you disposable brownoid
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>>737892749
>be retarded, sit with tank not engaging enemy for minutes
>rage that the tank protected you for minutes
why?
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>>737892749
>aiee why isn't it immune to damage???
Brown.
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>>737892461
>not vermintide
Then why have 'joke' weapons take up a separate fucking slot entirely? This is entirely a problem of their creation. You think the big mean userbase somehow "made" the devs both give more weapons, fucking CHARGE for them, and fuck up the implementation? I really hope you're getting paid for this drek.

All they had to do was put it into a separate melee slot for fun RP shit and people would enjoy it. Then they decided to charge for it and make them super speshul things to spend your super credits on; so now you spent extras in rotating stores instead of on warbonds which at least might come with useful stuff etc. So this was their greed and stupidity, yet they still refused to put them on a separate melee slot. This is all before even getting into the calldown melee weapons (chainsaw, flag, sledgehammer ) which now take up a calldown's slot too. All of this is basically a problem they made for themselves. They had (and still have) several outs, but they refuse to engage with any of them and would just let the problem rot, while they wonder why people are voting the game down or whatever the fuck else.
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>>737892921
>get a gimmick meant to show how desperate shit is for players to fuck around with
>players cry because fucking around with a desperate gimmick is a bad idea
???????????
how dare they cater to the subsection that likes to screw with melee weapons and ISNT a retard who thinks they should be powerful like you?
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>>737892921
>constantly demand devs add melee weapons even though they don’t fit mechanically
>they begrudgingly relent
>now demand they rebalance the entire game so you can live out your gay power fantasy
I’m glad Arrowhead is charging you tards for meme weapons because you deserve it for being so retarded.
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>>737893062
Its hilarious.
melee was originally a silly thing for gigachads to show off how badass they were by surviving with them... or for dumbasses to die with comically.

And now these massive babies want it to be viable and worth using lmao
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>>737893031
>gotta pay extra for the shitty gimmick that isn’t ever meant to be used
>repeatedly
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>>737893181
>how DARE I be FORCED to buy this thing
you aren't forced to pay for it?
You CHOSE to pay for the shitty gimmick weapon lmao
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>>737893158
>>737893062
Behold, the dev cocksucker brigade. The reason bad games stay bad until death.
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>>737893248
>REEE the devs need to suck MY cock.
>ANYTHING ELSE is sucking theirs!
>its my cock or their cock!
what a sad, gay world you live in, faggot.
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>>737892850
>>737892827
>Automaton tank
>immune to small arms fire
>helldiver tank
>vulnerable to all small arms fire
Silly smelly browns
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>>737893298
here you go
https://www.reddit.com/r/LowSodiumHellDivers/
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>>737893358
next you are gonna seethe over not having an automaton dropship, right?
or a bug burrowing ability?
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>>737893414
>faggot links me his reddit
no thanks, gay boy.
go over there and leave this place behind
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>>737893358
>dude I just compared enemy stats vs player stats
>bet you feel stupid now!!
Very brown.
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>>737858278
This game is mostly played by brown people who love to LARP as white
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>>737893436
actually, yeah I am
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>>737893553
but how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
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>>737893871
Exactly like I feel now since I don't eat breakfast.



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