>mfw thought it was just going to be the castle maybe some small areas around outside >mfw the sheer size of this mapAbsolutely incredible & they cut huge swaths of content dealing with companions apparently,I really wonder why they didn't add in quidditch later on as DLC?
Quidditch is like the Batmobile. People think they want it. They beg for it. But for the amount of work to put it in, the devs would need to have you do it more times than anyone actually wants. They want to play quidditch once or twice and then not touch it.Plus quidditch is a terribly designed sport and Rowling is a hack who cannot into game design.
>>737860446Don't forget the world building makes no sense, your telling me all sorts of magical creatures exist & is in "our" world but hidden behind magic pfft please......
The map is big but it's pretty fucking boring with not much to do. There are some areas that look nice (specifically that area to the very south with the beach, etc.) but it all feels lifeless. Small 'towns' are copy-pasted, Hogsmeade is cool though, forest is big but same shit over and over, etc.School itself was really well-done though, obviously best part about the game by a country mile. Anyways, devs said very early on that there wouldn't be DLC since that time would best be spent on a sequel or something else. DLC additions would be pretty miniscule anyways (quidditch way too large in scope, no one wants to do more dungeon shit, etc.)
>>737860253they should have made the open world half the size and fit more secrets and things to do in the castle. Fuck it just make impossible spaces in the castle. It's magic, after all
>>737860253The world is very impressive if you're a fan of Harry Potter. As an actual game space they are mostly empty and filled with the same few repetitive tasks and enemies just scattered around. I dislike the Wizard Challenges as you can find ones you literally cannot complete (you do not have the required spell or upgrade yet) but you can still fuck with the puzzles. But that is a small complaint.As someone who used to really love Harry Potter (but kinda grew out of it), I did have fun walking around the castle.
>>737860446>quidditch>poorly designed>meanwhile football>throw a pigskin oval and hulksmash other burly dudes and try to carry it over an arbitrary line>oh and you cant go too far to the sides>baseball>hit the ball oh wait no you cant hit it there thats a 'foul' - utterly derangedall sports are poorly designed
>>737861926if you think football and baseball are bad, now imagine if they had the snitch as a part of the game
>>737861926surely you're not trying to argue that baseball makes less sense than fucking quidditchchrist
>>737862016People overestimate the importance of the snitch, isn't it only a plot armor thing for harry and the game is rarely decided by it? Anyway, The devs can really just take some liberty to change some things a little bit if it's unbalanced, some autists will seethe but who cares?
>>737862059it absolutely makes less sense that quidditch and i say that as a fan of baseballthink about it>quidditch>7 per team>one goalie, two bruiser dickheads with bats, three ball-chasers, one gold seeker guy>three possible goals>chase the ball, throw it in the opponent's goals, get the snitch for +150 points and end the game>baseball>hit a ball with a stick then run in a diamond pattern????>oh you touched the white base so you're 'safe'>and when your teammate hits it you move forward but wait you can also 'steal'. or bunt. nonsense>scoring system dreamt up by absolute fools, 'innings' are stupid as fuck>oh you hit the ball but it went to the side a little? must be a foul. pffft. what a load of shit>you cant even nail the batter with the ball if youre pitching, god forbid. meanwhile in quidditch half the game is slamming iron balls right into the heads of your opponents as a beater
>>737862204You could abstract the snitch to be just a cutscene that happens when one team reaches a certain amount of points, but I imagine fans would not like that since the snitch is given such a focus in the movies.
>>737861775I never read the books but saw the 1st movie was surprised to not see Harry or the other kids around?
>>737860446With or without quidditch, the flying in this game is unforgivably boring.
>>737862204>the game is rarely decided by it?a regular score is something like ten or twenty points, grabbing the snitch is 150 points and ends the game
>>737862316It doesn't make sense because there are basically two separate games going on at the same time in a quidditch match.It doesnt help that one of them completely overrides the results of the other, like in the normal game you can completely shit on a team but then harry falls on his broomstick and accidentally swallow the golden snitch and wins the game. I can understand why slytherins turned to Nazis, total gryffindor death hail you know who
>>737862472Not sure if this is a troll or not but the game takes place in the 1800s bro, how could you not tell it was at least older?
>>737860253everything outside of the castle, hogsmeade and the forest suck ass sadly, the entire southern portion of the map is TRASH
>>737862538I know but I meant that winning by catching it is supposed to be rare. Just because the main character is doing it doesn't mean its normal
>>737862617150 is a fuck tons of points, your team has to be getting absolutely owned if getting the snitch doesnt win you the game. the game only ends when the snitch is caught. iirc in lore there was a game that went on for like three weeks straight
>>737860253>I really wonder why they didn't add in quidditch later on as DLChp: quidditch champions was already in the pipeline (it sucked)
>>737862550hey maybe you should get a real seeker then instead of letting malfoy buy his way in you retarded slythernigger
>>737862667>the game only ends when the snitch is caught.Where did you get this from? I don't think that's the case.And more importantly if the golden snitch is what determines the winner then what's the point of the rest of the game?
>>737860253>The game makes a huge point about enemies reacting to certain spells>Final boss drops all of this and you just mash the basic attackPretty boring fight and ranrok was a meh villain, the dark magic quests were way better
>>737862434Sure, anyway I don't see it looking as fun as you think it would. If the game forces you to be a seeker, sure maybe but the rest of the game is absolutely boring and will suck ass and no one will want to play it.
>>737862760i read the books as a kid. >what's the point of the rest of the game?beaters fuck everyone up so that the other team cant do their job of getting the snitch or letting the chasers get their wincon
>>737862316The problem with quidditch is the golden snitch and how many points it awards. If getting it didn't basically guarantee your team won the game, it would be a lot more strategic. If it only gave the equivalent of 2-3 goals and your team was far behind you might be focusing on preventing your opposing seeker from picking it up for a portion of the game instead of both of you just going for it to win the game.
>>737862204The snitch would be fine if it was 25 points but 150 is ludicrous.>>737862760How do you not know this?
>>737860253They compensated with the map being huge because the castle itself is lackluster.
the northern half of the map is nice for sure90% of what's south of the tunnel is completely forgettable filler. even the main story only pushes you into a tiny portion of itcompanions are very uneven and yes it's painfully clear they cut lots of content. natsai onai's questline feels like it's missing half the quests and requires you to assume the local auror is corrupt to make any sense at all. poppy's quests are fine and sebastians are good but you can tell they cut quite a few corners (the abrupt raising of you potentially using your powers on his sister that never comes up again for instance). it's a game where I really wish they had the time to do what they wanted to do
>>737863104>The castle itself is lacklusterHoly garbage opinion. You'd be in the minority as the majority considered Hogwarts to be the highlight of the game and very well made. I personally thought the detail of Hogwarts was insane. If you weren't impressed by it then you must be incredibly difficult to please in life.
>>737862909>>737863075I always thought the game just had a set time and whoever has the most points wins with the golden snatch serving as an instant win button but its hard to get, not that the other 6 guys useless unless they keep a 150 points difference with the other team kek.Well this game is absolutely retarded then, why didn't rowling just make football but with broomstick? Did she really have to make this stupid game?
>>737862760>what's the point of the rest of the game?didn't viktor krum's team lose the championship despite him catching the snitch
>>737863178She did it as a fuck you to sports in general.
Quidditch is fine in concept and lore, but like most things within the Wizarding World, it's portraryed poorly to make 'arry Pottah look like Wizard Jesus.The reality is that 90% of the time Seekers are just looking for the snitch from the bench. It takes for fucking ever to spot it, let alone catch it, and even if you spot it both (You) and the opposition's Seeker can easily lose it and just go back to the bench because if you're in the air you better believe other players are going to try and literally murder you. The books talk about this in some detail, with a notable mention of the longest match lasting something like 27 days.Again, this is all undermined for Harry being a stupid faggot who is the worst part of his universe. Fuck Harry Potter.
>>737860253Once you get out of the castles it’s not that exciting. There’s a few larger set pieces but most of it just turns into collectible, do the same thing over and over again slop and it’s a lot less interesting.
>>737860446YepHell they just made a quidditch game I believe and nobody is talking about it so must have flopped
Do professional Quiddich teams test for luck enhancing drugs?
>>737863241Yeah, I remember it being a noteworthy event in the books that some team lost despite catching the snitch. Which begs the question though, what kind of dumbass chooses to catch it if his team is down by 160+
>>737863732miscommunication
>>737863710if you believe this game nothe quidditch teacher didn't go professional because her friend doped both of them with the luck drug at tryouts. friend got in but she refused because muh honor
>>737863710They're wizards they encourage all the doping you can
>>737860253>1200x675is this for ants?? why the fuck
>>737862316Ah yes baseball. Where if someone hits a home run they get 10 runs and the game instantly ends.
>>737862760Rowling did not much if any thought into the logic and internal worldbuilding of her series. On some levels this works as it leaves more to the imagination of the reader and the perspective of the protagonist and setting as novels for children, from a childs perspective. But since HP was now an overarching narrative with multiple settings and arcs, different plots going on you now have to find some rationale for why everything works the way it does.
hogwarts game had no soulboring visuals and charactersfirst student you meet in 1800s scotland is a black girl from africaif there ever is a sequel they better make the visuals more simple and vibrantbetter and more fun movement, i say
>>737863872You'd really think there would be some fucky things in a game with wizards. Like someone grafting tentacles on their back or turning their body to stone to avoid injury.
>>737864157Why is he dressed like JC Denton
>>737864157The dark wizard
>>737864575Wizards for all their powers are very boring.
Quidditch is fucking stupid. Every time some retard brings that shit up I want to hit them. The game needed better NPC interaction/RPG mechanics, not a shitty retarded minigame.
>>737863732a mercy kill. you aint clawing back from 15 goals down
Midnight bump
>>737863161Your standards are very low, my man.
>>737865071You don't have to claw your way back from 15 goals down, you just have to claw your way back to a 14 goal deficit.
>>737865279Or yours are too high and unrealistic. The castle looked great. I fail to see how it was "lackluster" it was the best design of the game. I don't think anyone else could have made a better Hogwarts to explore.
>>737865502it looked alright but there was absolutely fuckall to do
>>737865537Okay. So, it looked good. The argument wasn't about "things to do at Hogwarts" I was saying the design and visuals themselves were great. It sounded like you had a problem with the way it looked, not that there was "fuck all to do"
>>737865581>the castle itselfthis includes everything about it, activities included
>>737865537It's a school, what the fuck else do you want from it at the end of the day? You can explore every nook and cranny and watch each section beam with life (whether it's magical things going on, students doing things, etc.) Every part of it is explorable with the unlock spells, I genuinely cannot think of something else that could be added to it without the game turning into the previous HP games which focused solely on Hogwarts so it included things like potions classes, etc.Very fitting you haven't named a single fucking thing about what you would do differently because you just want to be a contrarian. Don't bother replying, I've already closed the thread and used /spellreflect on any incoming replies.
>>737860253the very first HP game was "the castle and some small areas around outside", and it had quidditch, too
>>737865721>It's a school, what the fuck else do you want from it at the end of the day?yknow, attending classes? in a game where you attend the school for the first time as a fifth year? maybe something like being able to buy some gags and prank students would be nice>beam with life all of it completely uninteractable, by the way. except for the cat for some reason. you can shoot the cat with a spell and it ragdolls. nothing else acts like that or responds in any way outside of a rare "watch it!" as the student otherwise completely ignores you
>>737865742The PC version or PS1 version?I vaguely remember seeing an actual gameboy color port too but it's been ages
>>737865854>you can shoot the cat with a spell and it ragdolls. nothing else acts like that or responds in any wayThis pissed me off
I wish they would focus more on the rpg and less on the dogshit open world. I have no hope for the next game though especially with the new dogshit hbo show.
>>737860253>they cut huge swaths of content dealing with companionsPoppy was the only decent one anyways
They were working on a director's cut version of HL that got canned.
>>737865721The fact that Bully, a game centered in a school in a mundane Earth is more interesting than a game with a 500 million dollar budget in a magical world of monsters and spells should tell you something.
>>737860253>mfw the sheer size of this mapAnd absolutely nothing in it besides the same 4 ubisoft tier puzzles copy pasted a hundred times each.
Didn't they actually release mod tools? Did anything good come of that?
>>737860253After playing and finishing the game, I can tell you the map outside Hogwarts is too big and Hogwarts itself too small.Basically this >>737861651
>>737865994i played the pc version
>>737860253>mfw the sheer size of this map>mfw it's ubisoft-style "content" like Merlin trials where the reward is an unstoppable cutscene which looks exactly the same as the previous oneThey should've kept to the castle and focus on student's life, the plot and its conclusion were dogwater anyway
>>737863505People says that but Potter did lost most of his quidditch match in the books. Yeah because of unfortunate parallel events but still.
>>737860446They could expand it so there's like sidequests and things that incorporate quiddich moves. Like dodging, hitting people on your broom, and throwing and catching stuff. Activitires like chasing down students on brooms who stole your books, tossing stuff at things stuck in high places you can only get to on your broom, catching bewitched items flying around the sky. Then quiddich would be a way to use it all at once. Damn this actually sounds great.
>>737865319the other team isn't going to be waiting around for your team to fix up, at least he grabbed it he made the score 160-150 and not let it go 310-0.
>>737860446Bro there was a whole quidditch only game and I still have the CD for it
>>737861926> want to complain about weird rules in baseball, a game filled with weird rules> complain that you have to hit the ball forward toward the field
>>737867060Just sounds like the Batmobile again
>>737862204A major side plot in the 4th book is that a character makes a bet that the team that gets the snitch will lose and it's considered such a ludicrous situation they win a small fortune when it happens and the booky refuses to pay out
>>737865721M8 all you could do in hogwarts was collect lore pages and little trinkets and unlock doors so you could look around more. I love the castle but it really wasn't that intractable. Heres some ideas>add lore books in the library, some books give you permanent stat boosts or perks. >classes that give you abilities and if you re do them you can unlock perks (new potions in potions class new plants and ingredients in botany, new spells in spell class, unlock new library books in history class, ext)>hall monitors that actually do shit if you're blasting spells off >house specific challenges that unlock things for your home room and bedroom Come ON.
>>737860253>hugeass map>no reason to ever see 60% of it>the main game is unfinishedThis is how easy it's to impress the kids
>>737867352Brooms are more fun than batmobile.And I don't think running around on foot is more authentic of an experience than flying around on a broom or anything
>>737860253It should have been either Bully: Hogwarts Edition or Auror vs. Goblins: Total Genocide. But it's a middle ground that's just there, middling
>>737867376You were looking for Hogwarts themed Bully? Not a bad idea, but would never happen in current year.
>>737865721>It's a school, what the fuck else do you want from it at the end of the day?You know, the school.>Congratulations, newbie! You just learned a basic gameplay mechanic! Now fuck off to kill goblins and never come back to my classroom again!
>>737862550>>737863060at the beinning of one of the books, a team was losing so bad that even their snitcher grabbing the thing didn't win them the match.i think he did so anyway just to avoid the humiliation of losing 350-10 or something, can't remember
>>737862204They had a game that went on for months because nobody caught the snitch.
>>737861926>>meanwhile football>>737861926>>throw a pigskin oval and hulksmash other burly dudes and try to carry it over an arbitrary linethat's handegg, not football
>>737861458Just seems like a cashgrab to me, that might work in the context of fans wanting to walk around the world. But if you want anything other/more than that it's a waste of money doggo shitto game.I'm feeling the same way about Osiris Reborn after the demo came out. Looks like all it might have had going for it was "being in the world" and IMO it even missed that mark.
>>737862204>and the game is rarely decided by it?It is effectively ALWAYS decided by it and the setup was so derped they changed the rules laid down kn the books for some quidditch game.
>>737862687Malfoy is canonically a good flyer tho, but ya know the power of protagonism
>>737864157getting high on gilliweed
