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This is a perfect game.
The only thing i'd change is probably make the weapon upgrades a bit less grindy but it's not that big a deal.
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>>737860515
Would I like this if I liked the OG God of War?
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>bad camera
>half the bosses suck
>backtracking
>landing UT and flying swallow spam
other than that it's fun

>>737860591
sure
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>>737860591
No. You would hate it.
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>>737860647
>flying swallow spam
Not a thing in Black you Shrigma/2tranny
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>>737860515
some of the bosses suck
>>737860647
flying swallow spam only works on normal, but yeah UT is too op
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any action game with a microscopic enemy variety like this or dmc is not perfect. the whole appeal should be using your characters moveset against many different enemies, instead of fighting the same 10 dudes all game long.
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Which do you like more between Ninja Gaiden Black and 2? I keep changing my opinion everytime I replay either
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>>737860859
>our game has a million different enemies!!
>they all play the same, just with different animations and numbers
thanks, but i'll be sticking to my dozen different enemies that all feel different
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>Hold block
>roll + jump while holding guard
>on landing animation
>you can hold Y to cancel Ryu's on landing animation with a UT without letting go of guard
Oh... so that's how it works. That's how you move around withoht absorbing yellow essence and chain UTs easily.
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>>737860859
whats an action game with lots of enemy variety
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>>737860918
>arguing for the sake of arguing
i didn't say they should be all be the same. i said i want a lot more enemy variety.
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>>737861092
then whats an aciton game with a high enemy variety that doesn't sacrifice on the quality?
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>>737860859
>cannon fodder target dummy enemies
>fast as fuck boi enemies
>brutish heavy hitter enemies
>pesky flying enemies
>remix of the above with different movesets to throw you off
Literally all you need in a game.
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>>737860515
>make the weapon upgrades a bit less grindy but it's not that big a deal.
How are you struggling with weapon upgrades? By the time I got the great bow I had enough money to fully upgrade all my future weapons whenever I got them
>>737860836
It is actually. I played Black and never knew about Flying Swallow until my first fight with Alma. From there, spamming Flying Swallow made everything so much easier that there was no point in juggling and building combos
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>>737861042
GoW2 had a nice variety from what I recall. Medusa, banshee, flying bat, exploding enemies, cyclopes, centaurs, just a few
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>>737860515
You need high literacy to enjoy this game.
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>>737861193
i dont know. i still wish ninja gaiden had more. just because other things aren't doing enough doesn't mean i have to be satisfied with ninja gaiden also not doing enough.
>>737861195
all you need in an action game is 1 dude to beat up on. what makes things exceptional is going above and beyond just what you need.
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>>737860515
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>>737860895
2 has the better combat and weapons. I will never get over that. But I prefer 1's style of combat. It's an oxymoron, I know. But it's so hard to explain unless you played them back to back
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>>737860591
Yes, god of war ripped off most of its systems from ninja gaiden 2004 and rygar.
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It’s been about 20 years since I played the original, but NGB I would say is in my top 10 games for sure. they just don’t make them like that anymore. it’s not just the quality of the gameplay but the general tone and ambience that 99.9 percent of game the last decade just don’t have. companies complain about people not buying games and for me I can say that’s at least half of the reason. They jumped the shark with NG2, 3 was full retard, and 4 looked so bad I never tried it after watching some gameplay footage.
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>>737860859
Enemy variety is something that most of these types of games struggle with. Ninja Gaiden 1 has the most fun basic enemies to fight in the Spider-clan ninja. It's why the rest of the series HAD to bring them back because the standard enemies were never as fun as they were to fight.
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>>737860515
Sekiro made it obsolete
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>>737862564
/thread
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>>737860895
Neither. Ninja Gaiden 2004.
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>>737863014
Bitch what do you mean /thread? This is a thread about the only good game in the series. Fuck you bitch.
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>>737860895
2 is incredibly based, but NGB is overall a better game imo
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>>737860859
>microscopic enemy variety like this or dmc is not perfect
IMO Enemies' options are what's way more important. One versatile type of enemy is better than 3 different ones with only a single "function". And ninja gaiden does that pretty well when it comes to the fodder.
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>>737860515
You're pretty based for picking the OG version and not the extremely overrated Black version.
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>>737862147
No it didn't. In Ninja Gaiden, blocking and dodging is your most essential tool. In God of War, blocking is barely used until the second game introduced deflection. Also, NG has a rock paper scissor system, where there's always a weapon that counters certain enemies unless you abuse flying swallow
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>>737862564
Anon, please tell me about the amazing boss fights in ninja gaiden 1 like the worm, worm, but there's two of them, worm, but now it's on fire. Ninja gaiden 1 is a great game, but let's not forget it has so many bad flaws too. Do you know which game had the best boss roaster? 4. And even then, it had its own fair share of shitters
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>>737860895
2 is the best action game ever at its peaks but it quickly goes from high octane action to annoying bullshit. NGB's has more shitty sequences that are a slog but it's never as annoying as 2.
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>>737863412
If the OG was so great then why did he make Black?
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>>737865259
What's the matter anon? You don't like it when bosses spam ads at you constantly?
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>>737860515
It's a fun game but it can't be perfect when the visuals are so boring and the soundtrack is so forgettable.
Though I supposed having such a lackluster soundtrack has become one of the series main identifiers in a way.
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>>737860515
I don't really like the underwater stuff.
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>>737865239
Ninja gaiden isnt a boss game that’s like 5% of the game why the fuck would I care that you think the bosses are better when the main character is worse, weapons are worse, world is worse, ambience is worse, music is worse, fuck it I’m not going to list more shit. who cares? Ninja gaiden black also had doku and murai which are the most fun bosses I’ve ever fought. ( if you understand the mechanics and fight them head on) also I doubt any fight in ng4 is as fun as the clone ryu fights in NGB (if you aren’t using internet cheesing strats which I never would have guessed or figured out despite beating the game many times)
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>>737865270
Tecmo forced him to make a version for pussies like you lol
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>>737867216
Different anon here. It's funny because the best boss in NG4 is the Ryu fight. Even when you're not playing as him he's the coolest character. Anyways, yeah the bosses on NG aren't the selling point of the series.I think you're on the money there. These genre doesn't have a perfect track record on bosses anyway.
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>>737860647
Try spamming FS and UTs on Very Hard or Master Ninja and see how long you last, most enemies are immune to FS when not downed and they will grab you on the landing frames
>>737863412
>2004
So no Lunar, Mission mode, new enemies and actually good harder difficulties with different encounters?
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>>737868412
I shouldn't have to beat the game and replay it before the combat becomes fun and balanced. Sorry, but I was bored before the final boss so I had no interest in replaying.
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>>737865593
>the soundtrack is so forgettable
bait or complete lack of taste?
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>>737863476
I shat in your mouth and it made it cleaner
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I want to get into this series, is the master collection good?
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>>737860515
I've only played Sigma, but I found it pretty disappointing. Mowing down hordes of enemies that continually materialized out of thin air with a handful of attacks that they seemed to have no countermeasure against got old quick. I'm willing to believe the game has more depth than what I saw, but nothing about what I saw was compelling enough for me to want to put in the effort to explore its mechanics. It just didn't click with me at all for some reason.

>>737864910
I agree with that. Enemies that actually have some diversity to their movesets and don't revolve around a single gimmick are more interesting to fight against, so long as they still have some identity and aren't just "generic mook with a lot of attacks."
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>>737869472
>I've only played Sigma
Then you've never played Ninja Gaiden and don't belong in this thread
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>>737865165
Copy doesn't mean understand
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>>737870902
Sigma is 99% the same as NGB and most of the few changes are improvements, shut the fuck up poser faggot
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>>737873029
I just got back to this thread after being gone for like 2 hours and the first thing I see is this retarded post you made. (NTA btw) it’s a different engine. Everything feels different if you played the game. If you can’t feel the difference you probably hardly played it at all.
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>>737860515
Probably the best 3D action game ever made. It just feels good to learn to play it
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OG NG2 being ported to PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHKLl0kNRI8
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>>737860591
they arent almost anything alike, the only thing they have in common is that they dont focus on combos, but even on that front they arent similar with the extremes that NG goes into

Ninja Gaiden is so obviously a 3d action adventure game made by a 3d fighting game studio that its not even funny, it plays much more like some prototypal metroidvania "muh dark souls" style dark fantasy adventure game except with frame data and punishes and different movement states being key to which buttons come out from you, rather than some high octane hack and slash game. NG is more like a torturous survival gauntlet that tests your discipline and patience more so than a quick rush of execution and memorization
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I played all the games within the last year
4 >>>> 3 > 2 >>>>>>>>> 1
unironically
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invisible dinos was my breaking point

I dipped out after that
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>>737868412
>2004
>So no Lunar, Mission mode, new enemies and actually good harder difficulties with different encounters?
everyone has the hurricane paks now.
however its a new difficulty mode with lunar, the new enemies, camera control and motherfucking intercept.
funny how the update doesn't add camera control to the main game though.
oh and the final mission in black is the one mission 04+hurricane has.
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>>737869343
Yeah, only Sigma 2 is not great but it's still a decent game. If you want you can mod it to be more like the original. 2 Black is also a good improvement over sigma 2.
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>>737860647
you control the camera
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>>737874478
She's so messy! I hope what Ryu meant when he told Ayane to "take care of Rachel" was actually to give her a nice warm sponge bath.
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>>737875202
The whole dinosaur plot went nowhere. Just dropped and never brought up again.
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so many larpers
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>>737860515
Absolutely loved this game but never got around to playing the black version. Is it that much better? I might dig up my xbox one of these days but I also have a huge box of xbox games I never played.
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>>737867216
>I doubt any fight in ng4 is as fun as the clone ryu fights in NGB
Literally all the human boss fights of 4 are better than clone Ryu
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>>737860515
Yeah but you meant the Black version.
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>>737881892
Its hilarious but you can tell he actually does look at her tits here. He then proceeds to turn into a falcon and nopes the fuck out of there before his cock takes over his mind.
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>>737865165
>rock paper scissor
You didn't play the game and Mork is dumb as fuck larper.
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>>737860515
There really is no need to grind if you use UT effectively. Game is long enough that you can get everything in one run. Also the original version had some fun extras that make it worth playing.
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>>737884587
Who the fuck is mork? And I have played the game, all four of them
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>>737861253
If you never use UTs you don't get much yellow essence. UTs increase their yield by a lot.
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>>737885049
Even then, I didn't use UTs that much because Izuna Drop was so much more fun. And I'm telling you, by the time I reached the halfway point, the only thing I would purchase were revive talisman
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>>737860515
I need to get an OG Xbox to play this
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>>737884989
/v/ shills a god awful Z-list Youtube celebrity, and he comes up a lot talking about Ninja Gaiden. That's probably a reference to him badly trying to compare NG to fighting game attack < block < throw triangles.
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>>737885462
I've been saying it for almost a decade now. This site needs a fucking eceleb/internet drama board, so these faggots can fuck off there and never come back
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>>737885653
But then /v/ would have to play games instead of trying to counter youtube videos with their own youtube videos.
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>>737860591
Yes. Despite the Ninja Gays' elitism their favorite game bears more resemblance to classic God of War than DMC does.
DMC combat is lock on+short directional inputs while NG/GOW combat is dial-a-combo (XXXYXXYY shit) with focus on crowd control without lock on.

Also GOW has more action adventury level design with platforming and puzzles which is an aspect NG1/B fags love to cocksuck over DMC's (and especially Platinum's) simpler stages.

Don't listen to these apes >>737865165 >>737875154 they never played GOW on God and they're obviously nigger animals since they type shit like "muh dark souls" for a game that predates that lingo and "rock paper scissor" which is something nobody used before a jewtuber contrarian ascribed it as "le core" of DOA and therefore NG too.
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>>737885992
>that reddit spacing
>can't refute a single fact
>muh jewtubers out of nowhere
Please make it less obvious next time
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>>737886215
>reddit spacing
Your father is a nigger.

>refute a single fact
Refute your AIDS ridden rectum.
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