For the sake of the adventure franchise, Sega should NOT make Adventure 3 because they will use the Lost World engine like they've been doing with the past mainline games since 2013. Unless they get some common sense and create an Adventure engine from the ground up.
i've played my share of sonic fangame tech demos across all sorts of engines, and I don't think it's the engine holding sega back
>>737861732Sonic is probably the mascot with most fan games ever made.Even some fucking sega saturn titles, because sonic people are crazy enough to program for that thing.
I have no clue why people keep asking for Adventure 3. They act as if the title will automatically guarantee quality or some sort of standard the team MUST follow. They didn't do it for Sonic 4. Sonic Team is the problem, not the the subtitle.
>>737861951I really hope Frontiers 2 proves all the Sonic Team haters wrong
>>737861732I don't care which engine they're using. Shadow Generations was fun. That, but longer, should be a good game.
>>737861774Everything beyond Lost World is literally Lost World but with boost etc. Forces, Frontiers, Shadow Gens, all built on that one, with the cartoony jump ball and sticky physics with fake momentum, this is absolutely not the same as Gens and Unleashed. This is Lost World masquerading as one.
>>737861732>spend like half a decade trying to course-correct from the shit heap that was '06>throw away all of that progress to make a badly-controlling atrociously-written Mario Galaxy knockoff that sent the series into a decade-long slump that it arguably still hasn't completely recovered from>still trying to throw the Deadly Shits into everythingLost World doesn't get enough hate.
>>737862612Shadow Generations was made by amoat entirely new staff with most of the project leads being new comers that started in Frontiers. The game turned out to be excellent because they got rid of all the Sonic Team dead weight and finally brought fresh blood on board.>>737862468Why would you think that would be some sort of own? I WANT them to be good, but they simply have not delivered in years. I hate these new era Sonic fans that have to defend Sonic Team and give them excuses for everything. We use to demand their head on a pike, now it's juat "small dev team, please understand".
>>737862880The thing is, it would have been fine it was just Lost World, but after that they literally used this engine and added a "boost" etc etc. Lost World actually did more damage to Sonic than 06 now.
>>737861732They dont use the Lost World framework anymore Also Adventure 3 sounds too unrealistic atp, i rather them just improve on the Frontiers framework
>>737861732They’re never going to make it so let’s all stop worrying about it. Modern day Shitga would never be able to deliver a good SA3.
>>737862880People act like Lost World is some unplayable abomination, like you desperately want '06 to be dethroned as the king of shit. If Lost World was a random 3D platformer withouth Sonic in the name then it'd probably have lukewarm reception. I honestly thought it was kind of a nice change of pace from boostshit.Forces is just forgettable. Frontiers is okay as a concept. Shadow Generations was actually good.
>>737862893It helps to know why it was good, in this case that they got people who made Lost World to fuck off. Still, the point is fun levels and well-designed player options are the important part. That can come into whatever engine and work fine.
>>737862981Frontiers is literally modified Lost World.https://youtu.be/EGCmvJY4zj8?si=OpQruoIoSEyPuHH1
>>737861732Sonic Team already made an Adventure 3, but nobody liked it.
>>737862880>trying to course-correct from the shit heap that was '06this is the root problem, sonic 06 was a good course all along it just needed another year of testing and polish
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>>737863152You're hilariously wrong. They didn't tell the Lost World people to split. They kicked the new blood on Frontiers to the curve to work on a throwaway title. They ended up delivering the best Sonic game in years. The Lost World crew has been hard at work making sure the Frontiers follow up sucks ass.
>>737864096They obviously literally didn't tell every person who worked on Sonic Lost World to fuck off. What did happen is close enough to that.
>>737862468Making Frontiers 2 at all would already prove me right
>>737864294That's not what I said or implied. What happened isn't anywhere close to what happened. The rookies who were brought on to Frontiers were sent off on a low budget throwaway project while the rest of the veteran devs, including the Loat World holdovers, are focused on the new mainline title. That's a massive difference.
>>737862468They were decent enough with the feedback to Frontiers. There's a relatively high chance they make something that's like Frontiers in terms of explorable map that feels like an actual area in the Sonic world and not whatever the fuck the islands were with the bite-sized proper action stages again and it'd actually more than likely do well. Just give me Sonic Overdrive from the fucking shitty Dreams game for the PS4 but official with that level of exploration and movement and I'd be happyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wuwon_tqwPI
>>737863165It does suck that they're weird about not tweaking some of the quirks from past iterations of the framework but i think they can get rid of those problems if it becomes a priority>>737862893Wasn't it made by the og gens and olympics team, new hires means they're probably gonna help make whatever the next game is gonna be
>>737864437They are rookie devs at Sonic Team, but rookies that made Shadow Generations are way better than senior staff who worked on Lost World. This was likely chosen as a lower stakes project that people could learn the ropes on. They didn't just learn the ropes, they made a game way better than the Sonic series usually gets.
>>737861732The current stuff can do physics and momentum just fine, Sonic Team just keep trying to avoid designing with that in mind.
>>737864685That's what I'm saying. I am in no way talking down on the Shadow team. I'm talking down to the veteran Sonic Team. The new blood has delivered the best game in years and proves that the old guard at Sonic Team are the issue. It's not just "The Lost World Team". It's everyone still holding on to their position.>>737864665If you compare the credits of Shadow and Frontiers, you'll see that a majority of the staff is new with key lead positions being tasked to new people that came on board for Frontiers.
If I was in charge of sega I could easily piss out the greatest sonic game EVER made.
>>737861732funny how sonic fags' "holy grail" is a sequel to an already heavily flawed seriesignoring the bugs, hit boxes ect is one thing, but sonic fans also ignore like 60% of their playtime and only gush over the speed stagesshadow, the fan favorite and face of SA2, only has 4 (four) stages with sky rail being really short, most of the dark side is just mech and treasure stages back to back which nobody even pretends to like
>>737866662I like all of sa2 and I replay the game all the time. Hell I'm replaying it now
