>>737863324BothCore Sega (Japan) didn't gave a shit for Sonic so the quality control was a messand Capcom mass cancelled his games for no reason and leave it as a zombie franchise for a while
It has to be Megaman by default cause at least Sonic still has exposure thanks to the movies
Megaman fans like Megaman games more than Sonic fans like Sonic games so Megaman
>>737864263Megaman brings in LEAGUES more pedophiles.
>>737863324Depends whether you consider trying with mixed results worse over not trying at all.
>>737863324flopnic the hedgeflop was never good, so megaman
Sonic's had it far rougher over the years but has also peaked harder. Megaman was a pretty stable deal until Conman went off the deep end. Naka was also a nutjob but at least Sonic didn't get caught in his implosion.
>>737863324a mediocre father is better than an absent one.
>>737864307Honestly I'm not so sure
>>737864307Sonic has wayyyy more porn than Megaman
>>737864334>>737864374Which is which in both instances?
>Sonic>Basically one major stand out bad mainline game people can point to to whine about>Maybe you could talk about the obnoxious writing in current titles or the wasted potential with the create a characters in forces because corporate was scared they'd be "cooler than sonic">Mega Man>An entire franchise of fairly decent games, maybe the worst you could say is the compilations are kind of shit why the fuck did Megaman Legacy collection have denuvo and some random no name russian middleware shit they are fucking Nes and Snes gaemsWhat even is the point of this thread?
>>737863324As terribly quarter-assed SEGA has almost always been towards Sonic games/media post-console producer, I'm still gonna say MegaMan purely because Capcom stopped giving a fuck altogether and left it for dead. Sonic at least became a merchandise giant despite everything, it's the singular aspect SEGA can get right about the series.
>>737863324Sega. Mega Man has the Battle Network and Star Force games.
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>>737864461Brand wars between tangentially related autist fandoms for no reason
>>737863324Megaman without question. At it's worst Capcom kept shoveling out sequels like street fighter, but it never got anyone saying "Megaman was never good"
>>737864548I mean I have an intimation of what sort of brand war it is, and it's not between megaman and sonic fans.
>>7378*64608meant sonic
>>737863324Sonic doesn't have any good games so that
>>737863324Easily Megaman
>>737864671Games are a very small part of Sonic
>>737864618Sonic just has easier gameplay to get into and level design that lends itself to more hype moments than Mega Man, that's the real reason it's more successful.
>>737864619>autist proxy warOf course /v/ has to make it political
The Mega Man formula was shamelessly milked dry and the one time they innovated (X), they proceeded to milk it to death instead of letting the series slowly evolve.Sonic is still relevant to this day.
>>737864745>Sonic became successful because each character is unique enough to carry themselves.How can you say that when they did jackshit with Tails for 15 years after 06 until Frontiers updates came in? Sonic carries Sonic with a firm grip, even the weird games where Sonic isn't relevant like Tails Adventure and Knuckles Chaotix died early in Sonic's lifetime.t. guy that prefers playing Sonic 3 with Tails
>>737863324Damn that version of Sonic was sick, looks like he has a super spinning kick ability, fucked it by not giving it to him so he could send his enemies flying way off into the distance
>>737865360>>>/dbs/
>>737863324Mega Man hasn't been as managed period. Sonic gets that since he has more shit in general.
>>737865418Dragon Ball Sonic? I prefer SMBZ
>>737863324NeitherThey both did fine and are still iconic and relevant to this day
>>737865304People probably use Shadow as a basis when he plays 1:1 like Sonic except he skates. If Amy or Rouge got actual, realized games they would bomb.
>>737863324Well, Megaman hasn't been getting ANYTHING for awhile. He's finally(?) getting some compilations and new games lately.... It's just original megaman though. Not legends or anything REALLY exciting.Sonic has some weird writing issues from Ian Flynn... Like he's literally rewriting Sonic's personality and this is a very common talking point among fans, 'cuz he's not *really* acting like sonic in the comics, and that writing has bled over to the games, and blah blah blah... Compare this to mostly NOTHING on the megaman side...
>>737866095>some compilations One compilation. >and new gamesOne new game.
>>737866368Not buying Sonic stuff is not gonna make a dent, 'cuz Sonic has always sold, even at his lowest. It would also just kill sonic, which isn't what anyone REALLY wants.Being vocal about what you want is good though.>>737866479Oh. Oh, megaman 11 was 2018. Wow. It has been awhile...
>>737866368> horrible theatrical movies don' helpA very rare and dangerous opinion to have on such an underage and fanatically Sonic obsessed board.
>>737866520He's talking about DO coming out next year (I guess..)
>Sega sees people like a game or character>oh I guess fans want more of that game or character *makes more of that*>Capcom sees fans like a game or character>here is another hour-long classic game ten years later, you're welcome
>>737863324guess
>>737865910Honestly megaman characters kind of suck
>>737864461>Basically one major stand out bad mainline game people can point to to whine aboutLmao this is your brain on sonic. Genuinely delusional if you thing mainline sonic only has 1 stinker
>>737863324At least megaman is just megaman and they don't cross over at all from what I knowThem bringing back "classic sonic" multiple times was weird as fuck
Mega Man has had one game in the last 15 years. How is this a debate?
>>737866883When Mega Man crosses over it's usually an out of the way side thing or explained reasonably well in universe, when classic Santiago walks into modern's world you can immediately tell the writers gave up on making a good reason beyond just mascot popularity.
>>737866883Xover and X Dive
>>737864263Most Sonic games are garbage so I can't blame them
>>737866592Can't wait for peak
>>737866917Mega Man 11 is better than all Sonic games from the last 15 years
>>737866647nah sega is pretty much the netflix of gaming. especially when it comes to the extremely short lived service run of global pso2 of 2 years, scrapping all that goodness for complete garbage. even paramount knows what sega fans want more than sega.
>>737867081freedom planet is better than all megaman and sonic games in the last 15 years
>>737867081Lol
>Cream the RabbitWhat the hell were they thinking
>>737867131Fuck off furfag
>>737867131*FP2
>>737867087I don't give a fuck what cunts in online games are doingHowever I do really like the music in PSO games
>>737867131Lol>>737867136How am I wrong?
>>737867168Pic related
>>737865420both went to shit around the same time and were probably some of the first instances of nostalgia pandering entering the mainstream in the last decade.
>>737863324Picsreel by a mile.
>>737865663Based.
>>737867804Mega Man 9 and 10 are good games unlike Sonic
>>737863324Mega Man has a better record. Sonic is now know for having several shovelwares. But Sonic has a pretty good movie trilogy.For gaming exclusively, Capcom could still release new 2D and especially a 3D Mega Man and it would be hyped.
Guide to bad Sonic games:Sonic lost world? Bad gameSonic Forces? Bad game.Sonic unleashed? Situationally bad. Can be good if you know how to play the werehog stages properly (block) and invest in learning new moves instead of saving your points up for more health or some bullshit.
>>737867536You aren'tCurrently Sonic fans are mindbroken after movieslop and shit releases (massively high hopes for frontiers only for to be a mediocre jank entry)
>>737867886I would rather play Ninja Gaiden
>>737867990ouch
>>737867986Frontiers was better than all 10's titles (including Colors, fuck Wisp level design)
>>737864307how do you know
>>737863324Both died as soon as the 2010s hit. The big difference is megaman went out in a whimper full of many canceled sub-series. While Sonic had back-to-back turds 06-onwards and never recovered from the quality drought during the boost era.
>>737867081No. I like both of these, but Mania is just better than MM11.
>>737868071>raped specimen shows up on cueKek
Megaman is just underused and never made the leap to the next generation of videogames, at least in a grand scale. you have MML which serves as a good foundation, but we all know they didnt bother to go further. now it'll only be 2D games. you can say about Sonic whatever you want, and most of his games are bad to mediocre, but he is still around in the current Zeitgeist, more than Megaman is. Therefore Megaman. It's also werid because Crapcom has enough success to justify trying something every once and a while.
>>737863324Sonic, despite being a synonym for cringe and autism and a lot of bad games, is STILL a fucking huge icon and popular the world over by all ages.I don't play megaman games, but his games are still considered to be pretty good by fans of the genre.I think when judging wich mascot was managed on the merits of being an effective mascot despite your game series quality Sonic might just be the end all be all among Super Mario despite not having any good games.
>>737864307Roll is an object so it’s not pedophilia.
>>737863324Oh Sonic, it's no contest. Megaman just didn't have much support from Capcom in the time when 2D gaming was considered "dead". Sonic meanwhile was being actively pulled in multiple directions because no one had a consistent idea of what Sonic was meant to be. The Japanese wanted one thing and the Americans wanted something else. Nevermind the clusterfuck that was complimentary material for Sonic.
>>737868284You are an object
>>7378682043D Classic Mega Man sounds like hell to me. You can't have precision platforming in 3D no matter how hard you try.
>>737866859Out of the mainline it's Sonic '06 which mentally ill people desperately want people to believe is the standard for the franchise.
>>737867830classic megaman gameplay is inherently aids
>>7378678309 and 10 were inaccessible to many newcomers, especially young kids compared to Mega Man’s contemporaries seen in the image in question. When fuckin’ PAC-MAN is beating your ass in relevancy with children, I think you might be in trouble.
>>737868529Crash 4 had really precise platforming in 3D though it relied a lot in double jumps to work
>>737868734Hell yeah! Leg's go, Lan!
>>737868529seems like 3D classic Mega Man would be fairly easy to make and could be done in many different fun ways. Why hasn't anyone done it?
>>737868762Its controls were ass because they were tied to the camera
>>737868842You make it if it's so easy.
>>737868854The controls were really fucking good and it's surprising that they managed to pull it off in 2020 and still have level design based on skill and knowledge instead the usual babified platformer design we get today.
>>737863324as a zoomer, megaman but his fans wont let his legacy die 100%sonic's still super relevant and got some pretty good fan games and a strong autist community dare i say more popular than mario, i keep seeing kids with sonic shirts in my country daily
>>737867652imagine lying to people direct to face when the real reason the chao is named cheese is because it cheeses all the fights
>>737868948I mean it would be easy for a small team or larger. Definitely easy for fucking capcom.You know what, fuck it, I'll try solo deving a 3D Mega Man clone in my spare time cause no one else wants to. Wish me luck.
>>737863324Megaman spends years dead before Capcom resuscitates and then lets him die again for kicks.Sonic never dies, he's a living ship of Theseus, but his parts are replaced at random with diminishing returns 9 times out of 10.Therefore, I'd say Megaman. Sega might seldom succeed, but they try. The only thing Capcom tries to do is fuck all.
>>737864307>suddenly
>>7378687409 and 10 were on all modern platforms at the time
>>737869030Mario as a series is obviously more popular, but Mario the man is pretty lame. Just a fat italian manlet. Not shirt materialSonic is rad as a design and (formerly) as a character to the point that it's probably doing a lot of heavy lifting in keeping people interested in the franchise
>>737869398Sonic is the looksmaxed alpha of video game mascots. Doesn't even matter that devs are clueless, he just instantly gets the girl.
Sonic has the better porn though
>>737868529Castlevania 64 got around it by making the ledge grab very generous. I'm sure Megaman could figure something out on modern hardware
>>737867219You’re posting in a sonic thread lmao
>>737864307>He doesn't know...
>>737869043Remember: Megaman X7. Never forget Mega Man X 7.
>>737869627Mega Man is all about horizontal and vertical movement. This type of movement sucks in 3D because cameras can't properly show this in a 3D space
>>737863324There's more you can do with Mega Man but they kind of just let the franchise die. With Sonic they tried everything and failed because the concept kind of sucks.
>>737869806Capcom is trying to revive Mega Man now. We got the Star Force collection and now we are getting Dual Override!
>>737869398>but Mario the man is pretty lame.The only thing lame about Mario is if he will continue defending a bitch who rejected him and that he's short. But that aside Mario is cooler than Sonic.Sonic sold himself on being cool but Sonic is a fake kind of cool. Sonic has attitude and edge but he's unwilling to kill Eggman who more than once endangers the Earth with his schemes. Mario on the other hand will outright kill you if you endanger the world and he's done it more than once across different incarnations of himself. Mario does not mess around his latest kill is Reclusa the demon baddie from Mario & Luigi: Brothership. Mario is simply more badass because he takes real action to end villains who deserve it. Eggman would be dead if he was Mario's villain.
>>737869868Have they tried metroidvania Mega Man? That's like the most logical thing you can do with the concept. And the genre is also pretty popular these days.
>>737869956They did that with Mega Man ZX and ZX Advent on the DS
>>737869956>Have they tried metroidvania Mega ManDefine try. Because I would hesitate to say so, with that fucking travesty of a map.
>>737870046Would a Silksong-like map work in ZX?
>>737868529We have 3d Megaman XIts not very good but it exists.
>>737869063>Do a april fools and put a megaman skin in pragmata.>it was just an april fools its not actually in the game.WHY CAPCOM?
>>737869956ZX tried but it still followed the "pick one out 4 stage" design with the mission system and even if you could access an area without accepting a mission, there wouldn't be anything other than maybe optional items to pick up there. Having to walk your way to the stages is also a massive weak point specially the confusing map of that game. ZXA got rid of the mission system but the game became much more linear, there are moments where you are allowed to choose which stage are you going to do like every platformer Megaman game. It's hard to break linearity in Megaman, you would require a lot of side objectives instead real progression to make it work. Megaman X5 and X6 allowed you to skip most of the game and go directly to the final stages, with powerups being all optional and can be obtained in different orders using tricks so where you go from that?
>>737869523Why doesnt sonic want amy tho?Have you seen her?
>>737869897>selectively picking cuck Sonic portrails against selectively picked schizo psycho Mario scenarios.Sonic has left Eggman to die multiple times. Plus Eggman actually has a purpose of warning the audience about technocratic jews, Bowser is just a generic lizard.
>>737869897Mario has no style. He has no character. Some earlier iterations are better, but he's been Perfect Mario™ for so long. Just a bland corporate icon. Not unappealing, but not individually appealing either. Luigi has it much better since he's allowed to be weird.
>>737870238Sonic only likes human women
Megaman has like 150 fucking games and his fans still act like he was neglected
>>737869714>>737870117huge wasted potential. Most of X7 is 2D and the few 3D levels are super unpolished in the controls and level design. Should have went all in and made the 3D good instead of a weird half assing.
>>737864457sonic was absent for the late 90s mega was absent for the late 2000s
>>737868710Even mentally iller people defend 06 and shit on Mania
>>737870880You have to understand sonic 06 was 20 years ago.There are people who played it as their first ever game. You're gonna have some people be nostalgic for it, despite the lack of quality.
>>737869868>collection of the least popular series>sequel to a ten year old game with graphics that look no different even when 11 didn't look impressive back thenThey're not trying very hard. "Flagship franchise" my ass.
>>737870238Have you seen Sonic? You want Amy so you think Sonic should want her but Sonic is a 10 while for a Sonic's worldian, Amy is an 06/10 and not nearly as epic.
>>737870398I don't get it either.
>>737866859Mainline sonic gamesSonicSonic 2Sonic 3Sonic 3 and knucklesSonic 4 part 1Sonic 4 part 2He was close mainline sonic has 2 bad games.Now if you wanna talk the adventure eraWe have Sonic adventure 1Sonic adventure 2Shadow the hedgehogSonic herosSonic 06One bad game, maybe 2 if you arent biased towards enjoying shadow like me.Now for the rest theres alot of not very good games but id say the lowest quality in this modern era is Sonic boom.Everything else is just kinda mid other than Generations which is good.
>>737871135>Have you seen Sonic?Yeah he's like 2ft 5.I mog Sonic.
>>737871007segas games don't even need quality. they're like an music video for a discography. the gaming is like the whipped cream and the music is like the sponge cake. the game has to be exceptionally irrevocably the foulest shit on the planet to actually offend fans. which is pretty much pso2ngs.
sonic is easily more mismanaged (especially in the mid 00s the franchise was in a disastrous death spiral for a while there) but megaman is moreso abandoned than anything else>but dual overdrive!yeah that took what, 10 years? after the game before that also took 10 years?
>>737871219Sonic is larger than life.
>>737871258>pso2ngIs it bad if I miss PSU?
>>737871282>but dual overdrive!Quite literally no one says this, Mega Man fans are united in doomposting about how DO is all we're getting after a decade of basically nothing.
>>737863324fuck go back
Secret Rings is one of the worst games I've ever played.
>>737864307 >>737870238Too young for him
>>737864307Tails
>>737868740Mega Man is inaccessible as a pre-requisite. Four year-olds can't play any of them, even with rewind and savestates.
>>737872019>>737872221Sonic characters don't have ages.
I don’t understand the hate for SonicAlmost all of his games are goodSame for megaman, even the weird fighter spinoffs are pretty fun
>>737863324Megaman
>>737872707The forced hate for Sonic is leftover from classic's ads shitting on Mario and the Sonic fandom legitimately being the most toxic group on the internet for years as well as Sonicfags being furfags
Nobody can agree on or properly articulate why they hate Ian's writing besides "references bad."
>>737864461>Basically one major stand out bad mainline game people can point to to whine aboutLiterally every mainline sonic game after 3 ranges from either mediocre to bad.
>>737863324Rockman has good games and spinoffsMeanwhile sonic panders to faggots trannies, is voiced by a Jew and had a movie featuring black racemixing propaganda
>>737873616Obsessed.
>>737864307Most Sonic characters are under 18
>>737863324Sonic.Being shelved isn't really being mismanaged, they're just not using it. With Sonic however Sega literally just doesn't know what to do with him
>>737872707>>737872785Hating Sonic was late 2000's best internet ragebait. That's all there is to it.
>>737873616>panders to faggots trannies, is voiced by a Jew and had a movie featuring black racemixing propagandaSo will megaman, or anything for that matter, the second jews get their hands on it.At least original Sonic actually warned you about the jews and the black creatures.
>>737863324Megaman. The series pretty much died because Capcom kept making too many fucking Megaman games (which were still at least decent), and then they just pretty much killed it off without trying to properly rehabilitate it, seemingly out of spite towards Inafune.Sonic had some fucking atrocious games, but at least Sega tried to correct course. And these days people do actually know Sonic, while Megaman is fading into obscurity.
>>737863324Megaman has a lot more good games than Sonic.
>>737874641It's sad looking back on it and realizing Capcom mostly didn't give a shit about Megaman, it was a fluke that the people working on the games cared as much as they did while Capcom was just like "here's five bucks, make endless sequels every year until this stops being profitable" which burnt out the devs and the fans.
>>737864307Instead, Sonic brings in a fuckload of furries who also happen to be pedophiles. Don't think I don't see you and your Tails and Cream porn. I'm going to assume that the rest are probably teenagers at oldest too.
>>737874641It became a running joke for a while how many fucking Megaman games that there are, and how many different configurations that you can repackage and resell them. That said, Capcom has ignored it for so long that it has essentially skipped a generation, and most people who still give a shit are in their 30s-50s at this point.
>>737875445The fact that they didn't want to make Megaman 2, and it only happened because of the team's passion, is saddening. From the get-go, Capcom never cared just because it wasn't doing killer numbers, even though it always did consistent numbers for a very reasonable amount of investment that they could keep going in perpetuity.
>>737863324Easily Megaman when Capcom pulled the plug on Legends 3 which was the most hyped up game at the time.It was so bad the Inafume went off and tried to make his own Megaman only to somehow shit out Mighty No 9 a game so bad Capcom took the clue and said Megaman is dead we're not bring it back. That until they realized they can shit out cheap NES style sequels that Legends or X fans do not want.Sonic's been shit for decades but a couple of decent movies is keeping him alive.
