why is capcom so massively successful right now?
I can't name a single good Fighting game released in the last 10 years
getting this out of the way now>SLIME>DIX>ZOOMERS ARE AFRAID OF MOTION CONTROLS>CASINO GAME>GAMES AREN'T AS GOOD AS WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER AND I WASN'T JADEDok now thats out of the way lets have a good thread
>>737865367SF6 is a fun party smasher game
why are troons so attracted to fighting games
>>737865367Im more interested in why Japan is absolute bonkers for SF6? Meh, I wish I didn't fall in love with Third Strike and SF4. SFV and SF6 feel so streamlined and boring in comparison. Also its a shame these Japanese players don't set up like a fake arcade to simulate locals. This "FGC scene" feels totally fake and artificial if its only online.
Soul Calibur 7 would beat all of them
>>737865367>>737865423Why is every other fighting game other than SF6 so shit and irrelevant?
I wonder, people in EVO use the "easy mode"?
Capcom nailed the way to cater to casuals without completely ruining the game via modern inputs and slop tour mode. The other fightans incorporated the casual audience mechanics into the very core of their gameplay and shot themselves in the foot.
>>737865367Make good gamesGamers buy themIts pretty simple, actually.
>>737865546japan has a shitton of locals anon, there are even idols getting into it
>>737865367>/v/ will still try to convince you that this game is badlollmao even
>>737865724it's not "/v/" it's one obsessed tranny
>>737865367The success of Street Fighter VI is definitive proof of the mental retardation of gen z.
>>737865367>Kekken and Tranny Gear can't even get 1000 sign upsI don't know if this is more because other fighting games suck or because SF6 is the GOAT, but that's funny to read.
>>737865724im sorry i dont like green goo slide slop where meter mechanics take up 75% of the meta. Also zero footsies ass game with throw loops and the same frame-trap hitstun 50/50 shit that plagued SFV.
>>737865367Based absolutely based
>>737865613Yes but most don't reach top 48
>>737865367They embraced the streaming culture that has been growing very rapidly since Covid therePic related is an exhibition tourney featuring top streamers there + one pros in each team, held just after the game released, the popularity of the game in the country snowballed after this
>>737866048>meter mechanics take up 75% of the metabut enough about third strike yun and chun
Because they're releasing mediocre products into a market full of complete dogshit. Also retards think their last game was some kind of political statement.
>>737865367World tour RPG and Vtubers saved capcom's ass, without that. SF6 is a bloated mess of DEI slop
bros i love dei slop
>>737866079oof 3s babs in shambles
>>737866032Fighting games are at such an astounding low that SF6 being a mid game at best is like a gourmet meal for these shit eaters.>>737866079Nah, that's literally whiff punch meter go up now character is deadly. SF6 and all of its stupid moba-like meter management with fucking cooldowns and "burnout" its so fucking GAY. Also the stupid Freeze frame on EVERY. GAY. PERFECT PARRY. FUCK. Its a shame because there are aspects of SF6 that are great, but its just such a fucking wonky overly designed on-rails shitshow. SF used to have a soul but nows its just tailor made for esports garbage.
>>737865367Resident Evil goodPragmata goodMonster Hunter goodStreet Fighter 6 nothing special but somehow only successful fighting game
is someone gonna make a gamethread for daigo vs menard, its in 2h
>>737866237>monster hunter good /v/ has become such a place for all sorts of degenerate slop eaters. >pragmata goodEugh
So /v/, time for you to explain why you aren't playing the most popular and beloved fighting game of all time, Street Fighter 6.
>>737866237>All capcom releases to lose against gta viOh the irony..
sf6 ruined all fighting games for me, i stopped playing them entirely
capcom has been replacing nintendo in japan and worldwide as the most beloved vidya company and tendies can't handle it
>>737865367It's a meme phrase, but SF6 genuinely did save fighting games.Imagine how dire the scene would look right now without it.
Capcom aren't retards. They put their games everywhere. Capcom has free real estate on the Switch with no completion. Meanwhile Namco and SNK drop the ball.
>>737866424>saveFighting games are still great right now despite Kekken going full retard. PreSF4 was the true darkages wher the biggest Evo games would barely break 100
>>737866424it has to die to be reborn again. Fighting games need something super fresh but its hard when the genre has hardly changed in 30 years.
>>737865367The LukeGAWD effect is undeniable
>>737866424>imagine a scenario where those 7000+ players were actually distributed to other gamesYeah, that would be soooo bad, bro. Like, we couldn't make fun of dead games anymore!
I've been a failure, I've been a successI'm like a diamond, I shine under pressureBut life's been trying me, I learned all my lessonsI realized I gotta count all my blessingsI'm working hard every day to be a better meIf practice makes perfect then I'm already a veteranI suffer from defeat so success is my medicineDestined for greatness so you know that I'm back againBack on my feet after I fell downAlways ready for a fight, never back downAt this point I'm fighting for pride, I'm fighting for lifeReputation on the line, so I'm fighting for mine
>>737866424I don't know about saving fighting games as a whole.It certainly secured the future of the Street Fighter IP, but I wouldn't be shocked if in the future the fighting genre truly turns into a one man show.>MK is dead>GG has no future>SNK games lol>Tekken is beyond fucked>VF and DOA are guaranteed flops>2XKO bombed hard>Indie fighters couldn't be any more irrelevantIt looks bleak if you aren't SF.
>>737865367Now I don't want to rain on anyones parade since I'm just a simple, inbred, retard from the country but it seems to me like measuring success based on the number of participants, rather than viewers, is counting your chickens before they hatch. I could make buck breaking a summer Olympic sport and break the record for participants but that doesn't mean people will tune in.
>>737866617tokon will likely be successful at least
>>737865423What's wrong with Tekken 8 and CotW?
>>737865367Still can't beat Konami lmao
>>737866661It will probably have a good launch, but the game being a 4v4 tag fighter guarantees that it has zero long term success.
>>737866702They're shitty games.
>>737866702dead games
Tekken fumbled badly lol. It's sad.
I really wanna get back to fighting games, i used to play alot in SF4, used to train with Luffy. I had pretty nasty Sagat. SF5 felt like too explosive, kinda pointless to play anything else than close up mixups with big rewards.Now SF6 i liked also; but it begun to feel to me everyone played the same with the same tools, where the slime pretty much always opent the same big combo path. The game doesnt feel expressive.Is it really still that? I want to give SF6 another chance. Is it still just slime everywhere, close up mixups, fishing, no footsies, throw-loops?
>>737867013you can play sf6 however you want, its super flexible. tyler1 made master rank not even knowing how to use drive meter or what a sweep was just by out fundying his opponents with modern guile. slime is still incredibly common and its still the best way to play though, but the game is designed and balanced around it so what can ya do
>>737866617>It certainly secured the future of the Street Fighter IP, but I wouldn't be shocked if in the future the fighting genre truly turns into a one man show.it doesn't exist a SF scene on my town so lol.>Tekken is beyond fuckedif it's beyond fucked, then the competitive scene of FG is finished and probably the whole gerne, the only one with complete competitive scene across the world is tekken 8 right now with the middle east, latam and SEA, not SF6 or Soive can represent a lot of countries because they depend of ongoing communities and talent. better pray for the success, because the grave of the genre is looking too close, same with the other games, being the king on a dead genre is a death sentence.
>>737867115>it doesn't exist a SF scene on my townYou're brown, so your opinion doesn't matter.
>>737867113Yeah, but master doesnt mean shit in this game. I think it was the same rank as Super Gold in SF5.
>>737866579honestly it's a good song
>>737867115>Only Tekken 8 that's being played all over the worldWhat a tiny insights you have please widen it more.
>>737865367Figures when you dumb down the game so much.
This is what serious fighting game fans are playing
>>737865367>Make good games>Successful>Make bad games>Failure
>>737867013>SF5 felt like too explosive, kinda pointless to play anything else than close up mixups with big rewards.SF6 double downed on this.
>>737865536It allows them to sublimate their rapist and violent instincts.
>>737865367They were able to make a fighting game for people that don't like fighting games, and have the brand and legacy to still keep actual fighting game playersLike I honestly have no idea how the tekken community can throw a fit and admit heat is a shit mechanic and tekken 8 doesn't even play like tekken. But when it comes to SF6 with jump scare slime and parry absolutely dominating SF fans don't say shit. Just drive rush, CR.MK drive rush if you have it, mash parry, maybe a random DI every now and then. Lose the round? That's okay, your jump scare slime into 50/50 will probably work the next round Webm related, the amount of times in pro play you'll see the timer be at 99 seconds still, but the dude is already hitting his opponent because of round start slime is crazy. Fuck this dumb ass game
>>737865546Japan was huge into sf4. They even bought 360s because playstations were and still are always crap at with framedrops and not suited for tournaments.SF6 simply is sued as a e-dating tool by vtubers very similar to valorant.That's it. The game itself and its quality does not matter.
>>737867257>This is what Mexican uncs are playingftfy
>>737867013It's still the same, only difference is some characters have to spend a bar of drive rush to throw loop you
Can the success of SF6 be attributed to the introduction of Modern controls? Everytime I play online competitive, 90% of the players in the lower brackets use Modern and I start seeing it less and less as I climb ranks. It makes me think it really acts as a good springboard for new players.
>>737866345because i think it looks ugly and the only dlc character i would play at this point is terry which im not going to pay full price for
Who is gonna make a thread for mena vs daigo
>>737865367They're one of the few companies still putting a consistent output of different types of games.
>>737867113>you can play sf6 however you want, its super flexible
>>737867674Maybe after the current fighter thread died.
>>737867751>>737867674Oh wait nvm. It's up.
>>737865367vtubers
Hear me out, crackhead fix for SF6: Neutral Drive Rush burns away a bar of your drive gauge, it doesn't exist anymore. Every round each player restores a single burned away bar of drive gauge.Using more than a single neutral DR in a round is now putting you at deficit throughout the match.
>>737867705you genuinely can, the system mechanics are so powerful that they allow a bunch of different styles to work, they aren't all top tier amazing but you can use them and find success
>>737867113was that the guy that mashed boom and autocombo for 16 hours a day until he'd collected enough free points from the positive ladder bias to reach master?anyone that plays enough will hit master eventually as long as they aren't losing 80% of their games because you get more points from wins than you lose from losses. Simply reaching master rank means very little in SF6 beyond time invested.
>>737867876adding to this is their approach to SF6 being a game that everyone can play, bringing in non-fighting game streamers into exhibition tourneys like legendus. this is in contrast to the usual sweaty ass pro-way or no-way, hell even you can find several of these comments in this very thread.
>>737865367that's the power of Cammy's HUGE ass.
>>737865546They have all sorts of those arcades in Japan, both with local and net play
>>737865367Fightanfags say how fighting games are dying but refuse to play any good fighting gamesFuck FGC
>>737866345it's hard, i need to find easy beginner characters. and then i need to know if modern controls is worth investing into or classic.
>>737868202I still can't understand why they did this. probably only good for stroking some casuals ego, but in the grand scheme it's making everyone, including those casuals, play at the same scuffed tier instead of matching people with similar skills. especially since the game had healthy enough playerbase for it.
>>737868713To keep people playing by giving them the dopamine rush from ranks going up consistently. Then they get to master which uses a modified elo system, and unless they're actually good (unlike tyler1) they drop around 200-300 ELO and end up where they're supposed to actually be. Then Capcom basically hopes at this point you're addicted enough and/or enjoy the game enough to grind back up to 1500 and maybe beyond. I think it's a really smart system to keep people actually, and has actually worked. In fact I think all fighting games need to implement a similar ELO system at some point during the ranked process.
I like getting to make my own BBW fighters and put them in different outfits
>>737865367I fucking hate these japsThrow loops aren't going to get removed as long as they keep showering this game with publicity and money
>>737868713They did it so people who where silver or gold in sf6 can slime their way to master and think they're good
>>737865423Dementia sucks, anon.Forgetting fighting games is alright, hope you still remember your loved ones
>>737865546Its fun? Idk I like it
>make good games people actually want to play>people buy themCrazy concept.
>>737866285nta but it's a good game nigga, get your head out of your ass.
They're focusing on Japan and they actually buy things.
>>737866345The new generation thing is a farce
>>737865367Capcom understands what their audience wants or needs, and delivers. When it comes to street fighter, they figured out that modern normies+coomers>oldschool hardcore fighting players, so they decided to cater to them first. Lo and behold, people flocked to SF6 because they wanted actually to get into an SF game but couldnt because they couldnt do basic combos
>>737865367Most of their income comes from the gambling industry in Japan. Cuz they've always got that to fall back on, they're able to somehow still keep pumping out shit games after they all flop.
>>737865367its unclear if capcom is "genuinely successful", or if other companies just shot themselves in the foot (like, tekken is really bad right now).
>>737866617I’m not a fighting game guy neither, but I remember seeing Virtua Fighter 5 revo in game awards nominations, I don’t know much about it but I loved VF2 on the Saturn
>>737865423SFV
>>737865423i think the best might be SF6 in the past decade. but that's not a recommendation. it's more just boring than outright terrible.
>>737865367it's just following the pattern. The more sucessful something is the worse it gets. SF has only progressively gotten worse with each new game just like Yakuza did, yet both franchise are at their peak right now.
>>737865367I do not particularly like their IPs, but they're the only company actually producing games.
