>EVO Japan soon (with announcements for games like Tokon)>MenaRD vs. Daigo soon>Invincible VS soonDiscuss fighting games.
>>737867356>tagslopBoth games are going to flop.SF6 will continue to dominate the genre.
>>737867356avatar fighting game looks like it might do well
>>737867436lol
>>737867436Might is a stretch
>>737867436That game is gonna be super niche anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WETonJkNkSEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-B20vllFlQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMBfWh7nBcEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgssH6aiwfghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr-182Rg9r8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNClEt2VI5ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m8tx_mK6y8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-sEcZ43aL8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3enowuqmKLYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr9KSxaxMQQ
>>737867356daiGOD will lose and it will mark a permanent end of an erayou know it's coming, deep in your soul you know a miracle isn't going to happen
>>737867356>MenaRD vs. Daigowhy do people care about this so much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0otYsvm0Yqw
>>737867856Most see it if Daigo lost means Fighting games now belongs to the newbies and zoom zooms.
>>737867423Capcom will release the most tagslop game ever, and everyone will play it.
>>737867356>come across rooflemonger (content creator of the year btw)>talks about "core values" at Evo Japan>died of cringe immediately If fighting games depend on this kind of people for marketing, they deserve to fail.
>>737867356This stupid fucking wobble meme keeps making me laugh fuck you
>>737868213Haha tell me about it.
>>737868280>blast haver tweetFighting games are doomed
>>737867793I think it could hit 100k sales
>>737868452NASB1 made $10M and it launched at $50. It could sell over 100K.
>>737867436>not a tag gamelmao
>>737867793I understand that they were trying to make it look like the show, but it just looks like a Flash game, in a bad way. But then again kids don't know what a Flash is anymore so whatever.
>>737867356i already pre-ordered Invincible but i really need ArcSys to show me Captain Marvel or She-Hulk to see me Tōkon.
>>737868591Not having a budget doesn't help either.
>>737868610*sell me Tōkon.
>>737867356I haven't felt the desire to play any of the current gen ones
is there a real bout 2 competitive scene? or do fatal fury players just stick to cotw and garou
>>737867860This is the daigo vs mena match.Here's the promo trailer:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol6zwwq7QrU Of course, everything said in that video has a Japanese fgc bias, there was no getting around that with this production. Also, they missed an opportunity to call it "The Beast vs The Savage" I don't know where Mena's "The Bull" moniker comes from. Is calling someone a monster/savage still a compliment?
>>737867436>>737868452>>737868543>2D>not a platform fighter>not a tag fighter>based on a property that appeals to people who don't play fighting gamesIts not looking good. Though for better or worse the developers realize this from the get go hence the price tag.
>>737867893>nowI don't follow comp shit that closely, but hasn't it been years since Daigo has won anything of significance?Like you've got kids winning SF6 tournaments.
>>737868887>lists positivesThe biggest downside to normies is the game being a fighting game, that's where the hesitance is coming from.
https://youtu.be/9DUlhjBkALc>Singleplayer roguelike fighting gameYour thoughts FG/V/??
how long the match will last?
>>737869068NASB2 was a rouge-like and nobody bought it.
>>737869036And that's why people say its going to be a discord fight because forget normies it doesn't even appeal to the current FGC
>>737869068The rougelike bit is already off-putting for me but>Singleplayeris especially baffling. Like why would you not even include the option to play it multiplayer? And fighting game AI has never been fun to play against for long stretches of time, you either find out how to exploit them after a few matches or it's the cheapest input reading bullshit.
>>737869125You're right, good gameplay is just not enough.
>>737869068if you're making a roguelike fighter then you may as well make a platformer instead
>>737869194But $30 dollars with rollback is a steal so I support the devs, Also the movie made me interested in the franchise again.
>>737869237least obvious shill
wolfgang krauser seems broken as shit
>>737869302yes anon people should only only play big popular fighting games because nothing matters more than wanting to fit in with people who don't know you exist
>>737869302>Supporting devs who make pro consumer practices is shill
>>737869302Same shilling was happening when NASB2 was about to come out, so I think Nickelodeon just sends marketers here.
Kuni ii got too much aura.
>>737867827RIP being FPBP :(
>>737869485Saori Hayami my beloved.
>>737869485DLC again?are you guys actually still playing tekken?
>>737867793Why does it look so... cheap? Like it's clearly well animated but at the same time it's not?
>>737869540lack of animation frames
>Sokka has Girlfriend Install!!Damm when is Ryu or Frederick getting one?!?!?
>>737869537What fighting games nowadays that don't do DLCs?
>>737869068this looks sick! i wish more fighting games had a mode like this. wishlisted – thanks, anon.
>>737867436>>737869594shill thread
>>737869657Hey anon would you like to play the game crimson desert, its based - and redpilled!
>>737869578Nolan should have this in the Invincible game with Debbie.
>>737869590indie games that dont make money because nobody actually cares about fighters unless it costs over $60 for some reason
>>737867436I was on the fence until I watched some Tosh beta footage. It's crazy that a game with new character ideas and HAND DRAWN ANIMATION is only $30. Yeah I think it's going to do well.>>737867793>>737868887Yeah it's going to be niche but it will have staying power. There's pretty much nothing that feels good to play right now.
why didn't tech jacket just fuck her mouth?
>>737869431I'm only buying it to support Mike Z and make Toby Fox look retarded.
>>737869578BASED CHADKKA.
>>737868704define "competetive scene". On fightcade, RBFF2 is the top result when I type in "Fatal Fury" in the search box. I've seen in-person american and japanese tournaments for Garou, but never one for RBFF2. People did play when they came out the rollback+steam version, but that was some years ago.
>>737869740he kisses it, duhdo you slurp up your own cum bro
>>737867827Platinum sexo.
>>737868739>Is calling someone a monster/savage still a compliment?I can see it being hard to translate internationally without some people getting offended cause Mena's black
>>737869068Great idea, looks like shit
>>737869793tech jacket must slup up a lot of alien cummies then
>>737867793not if they put in the adult cast from the new movie as the ex pass. toph MUST be in tho
>>737869845> cause mena's black It all makes sense now.
>>737869895Do you think they are going to make Zoe a lesbo in the show? Would be kinda hot
>>737869578I don't know what Sokka thinks he's doing on this roster. He belongs on the support cast with the old men and the pets. Just think of all the benders we could have gotten instead. combustion man when
stream is late
>>737867356>Tokon recoups their dev and marketing costs>Disney demands to end development because it didn't make Fortnite Disney extraction shooter money>Extraction shooter dies 6 months after this decisionDisney is stupid enough to do this.
>>737868229https://gachi.gay/o2ID2U
It's gonna be sad wathcing Diego get raped
What is it about Tokon that looks so sad and soulless? Why can't they just give us a rerun of UMVC3?
>>737870042I honestly don't know what cuckman has plannedseeing how fast he's streamlining the show compared to the comics made me think they'd introduce Terra already but the abortion must have been too big of a plotpoint...I thought they might make her Oliver's future wife but I think it's pretty obvious he's going to shrimptownwhich is sad because it also means his retarded character arc stays the same and he'll just be unceremoniously killed by Thragg
>>737867893Dix is just 50/50 sloprolling until they remove throw loops, no one gives a shit
>>737870148also Eve is going to cuck mark in the (((reboot))) season so the future Viltrumite empress will still be>a fat roastie who aborts her babies and fucks other mengood job Mark, really nailed a keeper
>>737870147That is not at all what I get when I look at it so you tell me.
>>737870147Disney's Marvel bankrolled by live service Playstation, and developed by post-Strive ArcSys.
It's up
>>737870147You want me to say arcsys or capeshit?
>>737870192It is insane how much better Anissa is
>>737870219lets go justin
>>737867356Trying to get into COTW, but running into the most fucked problem I've ever had in a fighting game. Nobody is clicking with me. Fucking nobody.No other fighting game I've played has had exactly zero characters that I didn't start trying out and go "damn, I really like this." I feel like it's a wash and I'm disappointed. Who are the two characters left for the second season that aren't in yet, do we know?
>>737870147>What is it about Tokon that looks so sad and soulless?modern marvel is sad and soulless so any time there's a new marvel thing and it doesn't line up perfectly with classic stuff (when it was good) it just feels like a reminder that marvel (and especially disney) only sees their IPs as methods of making money and rarely feels like a proper creative endeavorpeople will say the weird characters like Danger are risky to put in because nobody knows them but they already know it's going to make money as long as it looks flashy and has enough of the mainstays like Spiderman to stick the landing
>>737870303Mr "Robert Garcia" Karate and Kenshiro.
>>737870321>Who are the two characters left for the second season that aren't in yet, do we know?Kenshiro and Mr.Karate (forma de Robert)
IT'S LIVE>Coming up Laggia vs GO1FUCK
>>737870147>>737870229let's go with ArcSyssy
>let nature take its course and have the fat zoomie take the FT10, further cementing the knowledge that Dix was literally built from the ground up for zoomies>rig the whole thing so that Daigo wins, giving some people the illusion that Dix is actually a genuine, legit Street Fighter game in which old players can still competeWhich one will happen, I wonder.
>>737870321Marvel is becoming Star Wars, irrelevant and everyone remembers it with indifference.
>>737870386Good idea. Fuck Strive, fuck Granblue, fuck Tokon.>Three arcsissy fighters in this gen>Other fg devs only have one fighter.Huh?
>>737870386ArcSissies won't recover from this
>>737870325>>737870367Oh yeah, I remember Kenshiro now. Thanks.I'll have to give Robert a shot. Probably my last chance, since I doubt I'll like Kenshiro.. With the kind of character that is, no way is his flow going to appeal to me.
>>737870454Imagine half of EVO 2027 mainline are arcsys games...
>>737870530Yes, when the Saudis buy ArcSys and merge them with SNK.
>>737870524What kind of characters do you usually like?
You guys should have supported Under Night.
>>737870721didnt it get dixed
>>737870454>Capcom wants to focus more on Street Fighter>Bamco refuses to revive SoulCalibur>SNK has been quiet for sometime about the samsho RPG and AOF4 and idk what happened to KOF>Where tf is the new melty blood or MBTL 2.0 french breadWhat do you expect when arcsys is currently the only one who made more than one fighters.
>>737870582I usually gravitate towards the faster/lightweight ones, since that's been my thing ever since Nakoruru in OG Samsho. I can do shotos though like everybody else and that does OK too. Otherwise it just kinda depends and I have to try people out, since sometimes the core game systems change what feels good.Last game that did almost this poorly for me was AH3. I think I only liked a couple people in that whole goddamn roster.
>>737870721Needs to have an equivalent of a Strive 2.0 update that actually nerfs everyone and lower the rosters power level. Kamone did promised after all.
>>737870765KOF Studio is only working on the samsho RPG, iirc
>>737870321>people will say the weird characters like Danger are risky to put inI hate that character. Not Danger specifically but her archetype that's in every ArcSys game>glowing homogram/fairy/robot girl>lightsabers floating around>places little laser relays and exploding orbs on screen so the whole game is okizeme>plus some bullshit zoning gimmick so the bullshit can begin as soon as you get tired of blocking fullscreen THIS SHIT ISNT FUN OR COOL LOOKING ARCSYSAlso guilty: Hilda from UNI, just delete her fuck
>>737869657can you even buy avatar yet? why would they pay for shills this early
>>737870906Pew pew
>>737870194I think what turns me off is having four characters per team and only using one of them. The whole point of tag games is that you have to manage your health bars and stuff but they took that away and kept the screenvomit projectile spam
>>737870964Pre-orders are live
>>737869740I don't get it, is she a futa or something?
>>737870974His "Nu-13" tech is an oversight. It'll be patched.
>>737870721I play ranked online every day, only good game right now and it's kinda still alive here in Asia
>Laggia VS GO1>Arslan Ash VS Chikurin>MenaRD VS DaigoWho's who /v/?
fuck this im going to sleep so results will be spoiled when i wake up
>>737870147i don't know, i think it looks great, so you'll have to walk me through what you're describing.
>>737871141>Laggia VS GO1GO1>Arslan Ash VS ChikurinArslan Ash>MenaRD VS DaigoDaigo
>>737870809Qrd
>>737871141Laggia is that one pokemon that was SUPPOSE to be exclusive to the movie, but noooo.Go1 is Go-IchiiArson Ash is that one muslims who always prayers to Mecca.Chikurin is the one good jp tekken player.Mena is FAT!Daigo is Daigo.
>>737871141>Laggia VS GO1Don't care>Arslan Ash VS ChikurinDon't care>MenaRD VS DaigoDaigo
>>737871227MvC is overrated
/fgg/ fuck OFF. It's bad enough you keep raiding our melty and undernight threads but now you're putting generals now, blatantly. Fuck off.
>>737870772you didn't like hokutomaru then?
>>737871374Shut up faggot
>>737871374No, buy product and get excited for the new one.
>>737870854iirc KOF studio is a separate division that just works on the fighting games. Stuff like the Samsho RPG is being made by other SNK devs.
>>737871256You know Tekken 8's "back to basic" which Bamco lied? Well Arcsys took the "back to basic" line by heart and aside from ACTUALLY REMOVING A MECHANIC it also nerfs the whole roster which almost look like a whole rework and broke the "buff everyone" philosophy curse hence "2.0". Bamco take notes of it, SNK take notes of it, so why not French Bread and Capcom too?
>>737871374What fucking thread?
they massacred my boy
>>737871423You too faggot.
>Daigo vs mena is at 4>jk random other matches are at 4 first >jk 45 minutes of nothing firstesports were a mistake
>>737871443>AoF4 is going to be full of mocap animations fuggg I hate mocap in fighting games.
>>737871227Everything about the game is just a convoluted means of differentiating it from the game people actually want. It's such low hanging fruit. Just make a three-char tag fighter with x factor and an anime button layout. Make sure the roster is zany and diverse with lots of crazy gimmicks to build into your team and different movement styles like tridash and plinking. You don't even need the Marvel IP for this. UMvC3 is WAY more relevant fifteen years after release than 3S was or any of the classics for that matter. The only reason Capcom didn't make more was licensing and budget issues. Just pick up where they left off.
>>737871141>Laggia VS GO1Only one worth watching
why are all fighting games players millenial basedboy pot smokers or transgenders? I shart be playing these games you are all freaks and geeks
Dumb frogposter
>>737871696Casuals don't like fighting game animations unless it's heavily stylized like Arcsys games, so tough shit anon.
>>737871813Most FG players are just asians desu
This is the e-sports version of elevator music. Just put on some SF or TK tunes. They could of ax harada for a new mix.
>>737871414Not really. He's small and fast, but his toolkit doesn't do it for me. If he was a rekka character or something, maybe.It doesn't help that I have never liked Andy, so having any of his shit at all kinda irritates me.
>4 AMFuck off
>>737872115at this rate itll be like 10 amits been one whole hour and the first match still hasnt started
it would be funny if SF6 adds a custom mode of the game without any driveslop and it dies anyway because nobody wants to queue on that shit kek
the FUCK is happeningthey should say something at least
What if it's taking so long because one of the competitors chickened out?
>>737871227This doesn't make sense because Sony went to ASW to make it. Why would Capcom want to make another MvC when the last one flopped?
are all the matches to 10 or how does the b-list work
>>737872147There's literally zero reason for Capcom to ever change how SF6 plays given that most people are enjoying how it is right now.The only people who care are some pro players and retards that play fighting games seriously.
>>737871457I meant with UNI2's state in regards to people asking for a similar patch, sorry.
>>737872147SF players complain but always play the how Capcom intended to be.
>>737872257>this is the target audience for DixGrim
>>737871714Tokon might cruise the wave of Endgame because Endgame is getting fuck you money.
>>737872213>the last one floppedThe last one never got finished. We all know Infinite was half of an MvC game and so does Capcom.
>>737872264What, /fgg/fags shitting on it for having some semblance of skill expression? It's a discord fighter because you fags would rather complain about skill issue instead of getting better.
>>737872351>EndgameThe movie? Didn't that come out like a decade ago?
>>737872257>and retards that play fighting games seriouslyFighting games are really weird. I can't think of another genre where the key to success is making sure it plays nothing like how people who enjoy the genre want. You purposely have to tell them to go fuck themselves so that Little Jimmy who has never given a single fuck about fighting games before can play too.
>>737872407Endgame is getting a re-release to start the hype cycle for Doomsday and Secret Wars.
FINALLY IT'S STARTED.
>>737872408The problem is there's no money in pro-play, therefore developers don't take pros seriously.
>>737872440>rebooting a franchise>let's start by rereleasing the movie that killed itI think Endgame is where even normoids realized they were watching bottom of the barrel trash.
Daigo is going to die of old age before this starts
>>737872542That movie was dogshit but Disney is dangling 'member berries with extra scenes to get normies watching. Doomsday had a ridiculous budget, can't blame Sony nor ArcSys taking the money.
>>737872408I think it's hilarious>Horror game is described as old schoolGreat public response, people love jerking off old survivor horror mechanics.>Platformer game is described as old schoolGreat public response, sounds like a game that has some actual teeth to it and simple looking levels that actually have some depth.>Fighting game gets described as old schoolThis is a death sentence. People take this as a fighting game that's stuck in the past, refusing to adopt new features that make the genre much more accessible nowadays. Nobody wants to play some overly complex unc shit fr fr.
>I'm not even at half my....What did he say, I missed it.Either way, this kid just can't stop trash talking.
>>737872379No, like the big nerfs, does it have something similar to what T8 or S4 strive had that makes people want a similar rebalance
>>737872723Blockstrings are too long in UNI2 but otherwise I love it
>>737872684If a horror game that announced itself as old school actually PLAYED like old school it would be a death sentence too.This has never actually happened so far.
>>737872257SF6 is a legit case of it being the worst option, except for every other option.
>>737872684Same story with multiplayer shooters.
>>737872723Not really. The balance is pretty good right now.
>almost a jump scareThis production is funny.
>>737872832Don't they just call those boomer shooters now?
>>737870721I bought it on launch and I think it's a good game but if I'm going to put up with a low player count I'd rather just play +R.
>>737872924Boomer shooters usually refer to single player FPS
>>737868213Rooflemonger is a coomer, I'm pretty sure he only brings up core values as a joke.
>>737872684That's what happens when you have a genre that's always had players that always tout how how hard and skill based the old stuff is. It just makes it sound impenetrable and nobody wants to deal with that when you could just get into something like Overwatch instead to scratch that comp itch.
>>737871696Me too but bad animation is even worse and nu snk games are full of awful animation
>>737873024I genuinely thought he was gay for bara shit.
>>737873024Rooflemonger is the most blatant shill ever and you just feel the dishonesty from him. He's the shill to defend banning people for wanting sexy women from fighting games.
>>737872924Nah, it's arena shooters specifically for the quake 3/unreal sort of design that dies.Singleplayer boomer shooters don't get scrutiny
Marco vs Gato
How are you still interested in fighting games? In 2026?
>>737873413v sav never gets old
Was COTW always this fast? I feel like everything they're doing is insanely quick.
>>737869125One day the FGC will realize that they are the actual problem instead of whatever narrative they have prepared for that month (it's because there's no rollback, it's because it's not free, it's because it has no mainstream characters).
>>737873565MotW was even faster. you had 2 touch characters in that game
>>737873413
>>737873413>Strive 2.0Can't wait for the last two character reveal in season 5 and more seasons which is already confirmed also hoping legacy costumes would be included considering they finally have costume selects.>UNI2Can't wait for the new character reveal. Maybe they also bringing back Chronicle mode too.>Tekken 8Can't wait for the final character reveal in season 3 couldn't care less if it's another legacy character.>DOA6LR and DOA7Can't wait. Having fun with 5LR and 6 hoping they still doing core fighter f2p version so it can be easily cracked :)>VF6Can't wait. Having fun with VF5REVO but man they fucked up last patch but recently the devs doubled down the reason.>COTWCan't wait for Kenshiro. Having fun with Wolves Destiny. Hoping that the datamine leak is real because 5 seasons is crazy for a game like COTW (Saudi money of course).>GBVSRNo season 3 reveal so far and the upcoming new mechanic make me skeptical but looking forward for Id.>Avatar The LegendCurious and since it's cheap I might buy it but not right now.>Invincible VSTagslop yes but I'm curious on how the story mode and other singleplayer modes would be like.>TokonDon't know how much content it's gonna have so I'm skeptical.>2XKODon't care.>Other fightersStill playing old fighters occasionally.
>>737873691Jesus Christ.Hard to believe the APM for these games is that high and yet I'm witnessing it. Maybe I'm just too old and everything looks lightning fast for me now...
>>737873413>>737873772This makes me realize I only care to see how DOA7 and VF6 turn out, and I'm not even a 3Dfag.
>>737873841It's not age. The two guys playing right now are probably older than you.
It's actually a relief that the main event is happening much later than I expected. Gn niggers.
>>737869068>was first a disk volley game>then a 2p fighter>now single player fighter rougelitei have never felt so deflated.
>6-6Alright this is getting interesting.
>>737867356>>MenaRD vs. Daigo soonis this the most soulless fighting games have ever been?wtf is this WWE ass forced shit?
W GO1
>set goes to the very last roundOn one hand this was pretty hype.On the other, I'm gonna stay all night up for the main event now.
Wtf I'm supposed to do here?
>>737874547If the game's input is generous just do the simple qcf,qcb.
If Daigo wins I'm going to buy him a few escorts
>Tekken 8 is next
Do fightfags now have to rely on capeschlop? How sad. How desperate.
>67...
>>737874730Tekken 8 is a fast game. it'll be quick
holy shit has Arslan really won 7 Tekken evo majors?!?
>>737875149Pakis are tier whores and abusers.
>Tasty Steve babbleSon...
ok can we watch the fights now please
>>737875636Why don't you guys just play fighting games instead?
>>737875636The sacred rules says you must hear steve's yapping in every Tekken matches.
they really just decided they didn't give a single shit about the history or future of fighting games and how it would be ruined forever when they made soive huh
>Zafina VS CliveEXCESSIVE PARTICLES BABY
>Changed to NinaHere it is the good ol Paki strat.
>>737867423>CapKEK getting upittyGODvel Tokon will BTFO SF like FighterZ did.
how is arslan not raping chikurin? is he taking it easy?
>>737876163Chikurin labbing hard on Arslan's many techs.
Arslan fell off. Nice script.
>5-0 after multiple character changesHow is Clive not banned yet?
>>737873884Same, if vf is shit I think I'm done with the genre and I grew up hating 3d fighters. sega is the only dev who seems to have some ambition.
Holy fuck this set is so fucking embarrassing.Arslan doing everything in his power to catch Chikurin out somehow for five games straight only to lose to Chikurin holding back until he can find some basic RPS to engage in. Arslan switches to fucking Alisa and THEN he can take a game because his own basic RPS is strong enough to force Chikurin to actually take a risk at some point.
>>737876834Chikurin able to counter arslan's gameplay across two characters is almost like character expression knowledge shit.
>>737873413Used to be my favorite genre, I almost completely ignore it now. I have some amount of interest in VF and a possible cvs 3 but I dont have high hopes for either.I wonder if most people are in the same position where the games have been so middling for so long it's hard to even remember why you liked them.
>>737876961Countering a top player's gameplay should involve actively doing things at some point in five straight games. The difference between how passive he was playing before to what he's been forced to do now is absurdly stark.
>Arslan wins again
>>737876961>>737877109And to clarify I'm calling T8 shit for that being the correct way for him to play, not calling Chikurin a fraud.
>>737873413At the moment, the interest is because I like CotW and GG Strive.That being said, I am looking forward to Invincible VS and the Avatar fighting game.
>>737873413their fun :)
>LeoThis is desperation.
>>737877250Who are you maining in Avatar? Zuko and Katara look like my style
W Chikurin
>>737873413Strive 2.0 is genuinely good
>>737867793The animations are stiff. Kinda reminds me of Arcana Heart.
>>737877415I'm going into it just trying to main Toph because she's my favorite character from the show.No clue who I'll actually end up maining, but that'll come with time in-game.
>>737876105TRVKE
>>737877095I've never forgotten why I like them. But it's getting hard to find any that make you feel that, yeah. Last one for me was really DBFighterz. I've never really been a fan of tagslop, but it felt good to play at least.There's a lot of side-action on the indie/almost-AA front, but not like the earlier doujinsoft days, so that's not much good either. Miss the days when every other jap dev was randomly shitting out jank like Hinokakera or Million Knights Vermillion.
when are they going to make another 2D jump VS fighting game.there's no way they're going to repeat the mistake of making another 3d one right?
>>737877764If shonen jump still fucking with bamco it's basically screwed.
>>737870765>Where tf is the new melty blood or MBTL 2.0 french breadBlame Nasu for that one. No work on Melty until he finishes the rest of the Tsukihime remake.
>>737877764i'm happy Marvel cut the check because somebody relevant needed to, but sometimes i really wish Bamco had sacked up and done it instead, so we could be just months away from Jump FighterZ instead of Marvel FighterZ.
IT'S FINALLY HEREZOOMERS VS UNC
I think it's very telling about the state of fighting games that a thread about 2 people playing SF6 is far more active than a thread meant to talk about the genre as a whole.
>>737878127I don't find the Daigo vs. MenaRD thing very interesting, but it is a specific even happening right now, of course it has more attention than the broader subject of the genre as a whole. If there was a big boxing match currently going you'd probably get more discussion about it than if you just said 'Let's talk about sports' with no specific direction.
>>737877761I see zoomers having fun with new games I think are shit and I wonder if I'm the problem and I just aged out of it. I played VF for the first time recently which made me realise I still like that era of games
>>737877764>when are they going to make another 2D jump VS fighting game.Never! Especially after DBFZ. Your best chance is a Toei Vs. fighting game at this point or if they start using guest characters for Xenoverse 3.
>>737878545oof, please no. They would shoehorn Toriko in it.Just Wan Piss, please.
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>Juan PissDiscarded.
>>737878479>I wonder if I'm the problem and I just aged out of ittbf the last couple of fighting games (T8, SF6 and especially Strive) have specifically been going out of their way to do massive overhauls in how their gameplay operates to bring in people that don't play fighting games to varying degrees of success. I do still think that there's enough fighting games out there that you should be able to find a modern one that clicks with you, but I'm also not shocked if you're a confused oldfag wondering why you suddenly don't like as many fighting games as you used to.
>>737878479It's just natural to enjoy "your" generation of product, yeah. Because it's what's current for you and it's what you know best.Earliest days of fighting games were so primitive, I think it's an unreasonable ask to enjoy them now with what's come after. Even the shit fighters these days still play better than TMNT tournament fighters, martial champions, golden axe the duel, etc. They mostly just lack the creative soul that was going into the older games. I was shocked when Capcom did that SF5 promo for G with the absurdly silly rap. Felt like they were channelling the guy who did G.Done's rap for galaxy fight. You just don't get that shit anymore.
>>737878116Tokon has both the Marvel and Sony money behind it. The devs have already said that they want to support it for 10 years. Just give me cool characters.
is mena even the best sf6 player
>>737878705Better than Who Gives a Shit past the Namek Saga Ball.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DAIGO man his eyes.
>>737878969Probably is for ft10s. The truth is that he barely plays the actual game and entirely plays his opponent, and SF6 is so simple mechanically / strategically that a man who's good at reading people will naturally be the best.
>>737867356So I bought this game. How is Z Broly in it? Good, hard? Who else is good to use with him? Mostly played blazblue and plus r so im a bit new to tag fighters.
>>737878969Hard to know who's the absolute best but he's certainly top 10 to top 5
>>737879009>Wan piss babbleHuh?
>>737870085Water just came out of my nose, anon. Why would you do this to me?
Menabros...
DAIGOAT
>>737867793Will this game be moddable? Can we expect sexy Avatar Girl mods in the future?
>>737879991bro... those arent 3d models... but yes if they can go through that effort of drawing shit
Wtf was that chip damage from Blanka pressure
>>737877574She looks hard>grappler>signature move is flying away from the opponent on a huge pillar of rock What's the game plan lol
>>737880772flying toward the opponent on a huge pillar of rock
>>737880830But the rock goes up. She's going to be up there doing TAC resets with Morrigan instead of throwing the opponent
>5-5Oh shit
>>737880772>what's the game planBring the opponent towards you.>but they'll back upNo.
>>737881534Ah I get it. Didn't know she could do that. Easily the coolest FG character in a decade. Might even play her myself but Aang looks strongest imo
Owari da...
W MenaRD
>>737881534If you won't get into the corner, the corner will be brought to you.
Congrats to GO1, Chikurin and MenaRD!
>>737881534
daigo vs mena was hype as hell and daigo overperformed like crazy, sf6 rocks bros. someone is gonna reply to me seething, but its true
>>737883634I've just accepted that the new generation of fighting game players is here, and that I'm not welcome there anymore because I can't get myself to like anything about SF6.
>>737883634I fucking hate Blanka but yeah, it was good, I hope this was a good enough showing to get people to stop saying how "current Daigo is washed" when the man is still easily on the Top 10 best players.That Blanka lvl2 is retarded tho, nerf that shit.
>>737867793It looks like any other 2D anime game to me. I don't see why anyone would play this instead of UNI2 for example, other than the license. But I don't even think Avatar is that big, maybe it's different in America though.>>737869540No smear frames, compare with animation from an old Guilty Gear for example, characters don't deform at all in this Avatar game.
Admit defeat.Admit Japan's era is over. We took the only competitive genre Japan was good at, we took it from them years ago.It's time to get that Japanese cock out of your throats.Daigo played his heart out. But Japan as a whole can't keep up with the West. They never had the drive or passion even back then. They only had access to the games before everyone did, that's why they were ahead of everyone from 90s - 10s. As soon as the modern era hit they got humbled real quickly. What we all witnessed was not the fall of Japan, but the end of Japan. The West is King. King of kings.
i think if daigo dedicated himself to ryu rather than akuma he would have won honestly
>Arcsys games get laughed at for two, almost three generations >nobody took them seriously >all of a sudden they're hugely popular >still shit and haven't changed one bit>but popular now What happened?
>>737884481>Japan can't keep upRetarded af to say right after we had an alcoholic veteran keeping up with the current best in the world.
>>737884593You can thank that with Strive and Granblue.
>>737884593They make pretty games with lots of spectical. That is all that matters to normies in fighting games. And I don't mean that is MOSTLY what matters, or 90% of what matters. That is the ONLY thing that normies care about in fighting games, and they do it really well.Also, mechanically their games are alright, but that is secondary at best.
>>737884593They made strive worse and marketed it off accessibility and representation. Plus R is still the best in the genre though.
>>737867356>Imbecible
>>737884580I don't think Ryu has a strong enough fireball game like he wants. Watch the match and you can see he was controlling area really well
>>737884641He lost nigga. Losing is not an accomplishment. Fuck outta here.
>>737884580In general he’s just playing one of the worst characters against one of the most random and snowbally characters.
>>737884593DBFZ was a shitty baby game with delay based online way past it being acceptable, but it looked like it had a budget compared to MvCI which made the FGC start hyping it up to spite Capcom since both were announced around the same time. Meanwhile the casuals were already hyping it up due to the license and graphics. Then covid hit and Strive was the only recent game that looked like it had a budget while also having good rollback, and at this point ArcSys had made a name for themselves with DBFZ. No matter that it was a horrible product with no real ranked mode or a good single player, or that you needed totsugeki.exe to even boot the game outside Japan or anything else, it had rollback and looked pretty.
>>737867793They need to hard focus on making this look better than a flash game
>>737884873Of course it isn't, but you're retadded if you think that "the west just destroyed Japan".
>>737884593Dbfz and strive happening and becoming arcsys' two best selling and most well known games in the short amount of time they were out. Dunno what that other guy was talking about with granblue since 95% of people forget it even exists.
>>737884238this is my take too, blanka is fucking degenerate and i hope he eats some more nerfs
What I hate the most about these major showcases is how everyone will take Mena's Blanka skills and throw it onto all Blankas in the game as if even 1% of the Blanka community can output with the character like MenaRD. I hate that shit so much. Everyone is NOT MENA you retards
>>737871026yes
>>737885050Yeah. Blanka players suck. Its the same category as those who pick Gief hoping to outgimick
>>737884701I still don't exactly get what fightanfags want from the presentation side of things>Invincible VS is apparently ugly as shit to them>CotW is apparently ugly as shit to them>Virtua Fighter is apparently ugly as shit to them>Mortal Kombat 1 is ugly as shit>Avatar is apparently ugly as shit to themLike if you aren't an Arcsys game, Tekken 8 or SF6 your game is ugly and will never make it with the mainstream. But when I ask what specifically should get improved, I usually just get back something to the effect of>"Just make it look like an Arcsys game."And while those games do look nice, I don't want to see art style identities go out the window for completely homogenization just like gameplay has done in recent years.
>>737885050Meh it's gonna be a free win against Blanka players trying to do Mena strats so haha.
>>737884996Japan was "destroyed " along time ago. The was their last stand and they lost. This was the "End of Japan" as stated. Japan is over. We are already starting the colonization of Japan with the immigration changes lmao. Japan is no more bruh.
>>737885178i think cotw looks good. i'm not a graphicsfag and i like the stylization. mk1 looks better than mkx and mkxl by a lot. sf6 looks amazing and i don't get why people think its ugly.however i think the invincible game and avatar game look cheap as shit. theres something about the lack of animation frames that make them feel like a flash game (avatar) or a mobile game (invincible). i still think they will be fun though
>>737885020I think what he means with Granblue is that it released before Strive. DBFZ was extremely popular, Granblue was ArcSys showing to casuals that they could do something like that more than once instead of being a one hit wonder. It was gaining some momentum in the FGC and didn't get popular mostly because of covid, because influencers would gaslight people without locals into buying delay netcode slop since it never affected them, but suddenly started telling everyone to never again buy a game without rollback when the death of locals started affecting them. Without covid they would be shilling Granblue way harder, but with covid everyone bullied ArcSys into putting rollback in Strive (which they initially weren't going to)
Why was the stream chat shitting so hard on Fatal Fury?I thought the reputation of that game was improving and the set was fun to watch.
>>737879991it's not at all easy to mod because it's 2d handdrawn
>>737884481if a 45 year old is still competitive with the young champions that's a pretty good sign for japan. If you knew how bad reaction times decline with age you'd be pretty impressed I think
>>737885178CotW to me looks good in screen shots, if low budget. But animations are amateurish, not all of them, Terry looks fine for example, but Andy looks stiff. MK1 is the prettiest fighting game ever in screen shots (not talking about female character designs before anyone mentions it), but look at a video and you'll see the horrible animations drag everything down. Avatar and Invincible are again an animation problem. VF5 though is just an old game. People forget that it came out a few years before SF4 and the recent release is just improving it a little. Animations look amazing and the graphics still hold up better than anything from that era. VF6 I'm legit scared it's gonna lose players from people not being able to run it on their machines.
the test if a fighting game looks great is if you can watch gameplay at 50% of speed and the animations don't look like shit
I'll give Avatar a couple of months. Will live or die depending on if Avatar fans will keep this alive. American fans will do all the heavy-lifting as Avatar isn't popular in Asia, so expect little to no Asian playerbase.Invincible VS will die a month after it launches. It will temporarily fill out Mortal Kombat's slot being the gorey fighting game slop but the game itself so far looks shitty. This game will be predominantly played by Invincible fans and some MK fans. Same with Avatar, this game will mostly be played by Americans and less so with Asians or Europeans.Marvel Tokon is the only fighting game from a Western IP that has chances for longevity simply out of goodwill from ArcSys.
>>737885727What about silly smear frames?
>>737885784>I'll give Avatar a couple of months.>Invincible VS will die a month after it launches.I'm pretty sure these games have a 1 week lifespan in the best case scenario
>>737885976>>737885784Didn't Invicible VS get mass ragequits during the Beta?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKKcUAP7ohUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_AiV9sYViwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc7QEz-Dv2A
>>737886009Yeshttps://youtu.be/ELqQIXP1Eec?si=HqxfdpX4_ssjusHy
>>737885784>It will temporarily fill out Mortal Kombat's slot being the gorey fighting game slop but the game itself so far looks shitty. This game will be predominantly played by Invincible fans and some MK fans.Why do people keep comparing the game to MK when it's literally just tag Killer Instinct to the point that they even brought the same announcer back?https://youtu.be/6yEsQV7-VgQ?si=_7UwagNj9dy0bkt1&t=59https://youtu.be/LvGi8vePqd8?si=tVrmVq15hsZaAHDL&t=252
post carry characters
>>737886715I dont think you can beat that one
>>737886679>those KI animationsNo wonder the Invincible game looks so cheap. That looks like shit too.
I feel fighting games are not a hardcore genre any more. All that's left is anime maggots feasting on its corpse. I wouldn't be surprised if sf7 has universal burst and air dashing.
>>737886715
>>737886916>sf7 has universal burst and air dashing.That would be sick tho
>>737885178It's not that complicated, a lot of those games just are ugly. I don't think every game needs to look like an ArcSys game, but just because a game doesn't look like an ArcSys game doesn't mean it actually looks good, just in its own way. A game can have its own look and have that look not be that well-done.
>>737886951Well enjoy whatever you've turned this genre into, I don't really see the difference between fighting games and competitive fifa now. This just all seems so casual and boring to me.
>>737868887>not a tag fighterThis is good.
how many other people here are "maining" an old game? i didn't gel with any of the modern games so i started learning 3rd Strike in 2021 just for shits, and now i play a few sets on fightcade basically every day and am ok at the game. realistically i'm "bad" but people who are absolute dog shit call themselves "bad" so i say i'm "ok." despite whatever scrubby criticisms people hurl at this game it's just fun to play. the only other game i mess with nowadays is CotW, but i find myself playing more 3S in the last few months
>>737887037thats cool dude you can still play third strike, it has a pretty active scene still. there are people that agree with you :)
>>737868591It looks fine.
avatar reminds me of the teen titans fighting game from the cartoon network website
>>737887119people who netplay on fightcade but can't execute a single combo or flowchart are borderline offensive to me. can you try learning the bare minimum before wasting other peoples' time? then you look at their profile and its like "3000 hours on 3rd strike" like wtf
>>737887236you faggots will never be satisfied by anything, most miserable people on the planet
>>737887236that's basically where i'm at, i can do all my combos and setups consistently, i know my basic matchups, but i'm not a "real" 3S player at this point. anybody who knows what theyre doing or has actual experience pushes my shit in. i'm not learning it "seriously" though. it's just fun to learn the basics then hop online and mash
>Daigo the "OG" Shoto king is a hitbox using faggotAHAHAHAHA GET FUCKED
>>737872684Ultimately most people do not like fighters, and saying it's old style isn't a selling point
>>737867356Pedo games
the genuine way to appeal to casuals is just lower combo time, they don't care about difficult inputs. they just don't want to be trapped in a 10 second combo every match
>>737887119ANy other BFTG niggas here?
>>737887470Or you could add burst
>>737887119Not maining per se because I like and played both old and new fighters but I played more +R.
>>737886679>>737887470>Killer Instinct literally couldn't happen today because the modern fgc would piss their pants over getting ultra combo'd and either immediately pull the plug or report your for being toxicI hate this timeline.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn42EUePB64
>>737869537i am playing tekken 5
>>737887119I played ST for a while but I ended up going back to SF6 even though I hate it.The skill gap between C and A/B players was massive and the lower ranks were filled with smurfs so it just became impossible to learn or improve because it was either playing someone who didn't know how to play or getting 5-0'd. Also the lack of an automatch or any kind of quality of life features on Fightcade make it misery to play. I still enjoy these games far more than SF6 but in their current state it's misery.
>>737887119BBCF and +R
>>737887279not sure why my post triggered you so much, unless you're one of those 3000 hours shitters who can't even consistently do a basic combo and you took it personally. don't take it personally, i just gain nothing from running over an absolute shitter noob who clearly hasn't even spent 10 minutes in practice mode before challenging other people, which the actual offensive part. then these people throw pity parties for themselves in the fc chat lol
>>737886936That a man.
>>737887864>Also the lack of an automatch or any kind of quality of life features on Fightcade make it misery to play.I would kill for fightcade to add actual matchmaking queue. Soliciting for games in the chat and challenging randoms doesn't feel good
>>737887907i didn't mean to get so rude about it sorry kek, i'm just kind of tired of the constant negativity surrounding fighting games when its my favorite genre
>>737887470Nobody actually likes cutscene "gameplay" where you just wait until you can play again
>>737887864>impossible to learn or improve
>>737887964plenty of people talking about the games they enjoy playing. if you tune out the SF6/GGST/T8 fags then you can see fighting game players are generally reasonable cool people
>>737887119Not "maining", but I've been occasionally firing up GGXX and Bloody Roar Extreme for over 2 decades now at this point. Every couple of weeks I just get the urge to do a few matches of each.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNYPS8dN19U
have there been any omega sf4 tournaments?
>>737888195every sf4 tournament was omega
>>737887702KI is quite literally THE game I use to get non-fightan friends into fightanz because you can just button mash and do cool shit and also guess combo breakers if you want. It's incredibly noob friendly. Also everyone wants to play Arbiter.
>want to like COTW>bounce off of it no matter how many tries I give it>want to like Uni2>bounce off of it no matter how many tries I give itAm I just jaded? I like KOF and AACC but I'm just not finding SNK's or FB's current stuff appealing at all and I can't really put into words exactly why.
>>737887470Just steal directional influence from smash. Being able to do something while being hit instead of just watching is the main thing it does better than fighting games. Cooler for the one doing the combo too since it makes combos more free form.
>>737888064SF6 and GGST attract a lot of shitposters but they definitely don't play the gamesThe few times I've discussed gameplay about them here, people were chill
>>737888061The top ranks on Fightcade are dominated by players from dead regional scenes and people who came over from the GGPO/Fightcade 1 days (massive overlap with the first or the X360 or other consoles). There are almost no new players who have reached the top ranks in these games just using Fightcade.Fightcade is great if you already are a high level player who has been playing for 20 years but if you are someone who wants to get into retro fighters you are basically going to get destroyed until you quit which is why no one stays around too long.
>>737888064>if you tune out the SF6/GGST/T8 fagsThat's like 99% of the people that play fighting games.
>>737888489yeah. the "people" that "play" "fighting games." there is extremely small core community left of cool people. i didn't say it was a lot of people.
evo jap is going to be a wash
>>737888367COTW was SNK trying to appeal to SF6's audience. The Rev system essentially is the drive system from SF6 rather than what was used in KOFXV.If it doesn't feel like a SNK game then it's intentional. The original Garou was completely different to the mainline KOF games to appeal to 3S players more thank existing KOF players.
>current games i enjoy and playsf6, cotw>current games i like but haven't put much time into yetstrive>current games i disliket8, granblue>non current games i lovevampire savior, project justice, kof98, kof 2002, samurai shodown 5 special, USF4, SF A2 and A3, mbaacc, bbcf, cvs2>games i like playing casuallydbfz, jjasbr, p4au, mkx, sf5, mvc2 and 3, doa5
>>737888563>yeah. the "people" that "play" "fighting games."People actually do play SF6, GGST and T8. Don't know why you're putting them in sarcastic quotes.
>best player in the world is a fat latinx using a ps4 controllerlmao, shit like that would never happen on real competitive games like cs and dota
>>737888717he doesn't consider them fighting games for some arbitrary reason
>>737888632That's not happy chaos.
>>737888632crazy how slow modern fighting games are
>>737888741a lot of modern fgs are designed for pad first anon, they are console games now
>>737888632That's retarded for sure, but realistically, when the fuck are you going to DP Potemkin's 5H at this range?
>>737888687Based you do you type beat.
>>737888563People that pretend to play shit like Xrd and SNK games are loud retards that spend most of their time being mad at popular fighters.The people who play SF6 and Strive are chill, can't comment on T8.
>>737888367will Arcana Heart EVER get rollback? holy shitwe at least need a community edition or something fuck
>>737888896does examu even still exist
>>737888896Daemon Bride gets rollback so why not Arcana Heart?
>>737869540>>737884343>No smear frames, compare with animation from an old Guilty Gear for example, characters don't deform at all in this Avatar game.Clearly they do. It looks cheap because it's 60fps instead of the 24 that the show uses. It's too smooth and animations have too many frames.
if i play bison in sf6 who would i like in strive?
>>737888741Pros using "top gaming gear" isnt even that common in fps, i seriously seriously doubt top level competitors give a shit about using a hall effect keyboard or whatever outside of sponsorships
>>737888367>and I can't really put into words exactly why.What KoF and AACC have in common is fun movement. but CotW and Uni2 are better in this regard than something like SF6 but they don't compared to the old games. Fighting games with cool movement are a rarity nowadays. Play KoFXV and try more anime games I guess
>>737887119I've mostly been on +R for the past year. Tried 3rd strike some and it's fun. Playing with Centralfiction some too.
>>737887119I've tried them, but older fighters are just too clunky for me.
>>737873413dbfz
>>737889031>Clearly they do.I went frame by frame on youtube just now and you're right. They have smear frames but only on their hands and feet, and only barely. Toph has smear frames on her rocks too. I'm still not seeing characters deforming much, which contributes to them looking stiff
