Not every story needs a moral. Do you depend on fictional media written by others to raise your grown self? Pathetic. You should be ashamed.Regards,Anonymous
>>737877441If it ain't broke, don't "fix" it
>>737877441Move on when your gf dies.
zack is pointless and people who like him past the original game can suck a dick
>>737877539>past the original gameHe's not even a character in the original game, with his grand total of... what, three speaking lines?
>>737877593good
>>737877539based
>>737877635Wait why do you hate Zack? He's like the one unhateable character in the whole Compendium of FF7. Well, him and Rude. Anybody who hates Rude should kts.
>>737877698because he's generic beyond belief and I couldn't stand them sticking him everywhere they possibly could
>>737877698probably he and his game suck
video games are disposable products
>Not every story needs a moral
>>737877441Save the world?
>>737877757>genericBig disagree. While his character is nothing new, him bring far more chill than the vast majority of the cast is pretty refreshing. He's not melodramatic or a loud-mouthed shonen hero. For that alone I like hin a lot. He (relatively) feels like a real person dropped in a crazy fantasy anime world.>>737877767Crisis Core is mid yeah. Zack for me though is the best thing to come out of the Compendium. They took a non-character from the OG and made him fantastic.
Stop buying this trash and let square die.
>>737877593He was hurriedly created after October1996, recycled from Cloud's early design.And all the sloppy whitewashing trying to make him look relevant make this kind of parasitic character even annoying.>Nojimbo's sloppy efforts trying (and failed) to make ZAX look less a hastily & abruptly inserted bland plotdevice merely for Cloud's backstory, by making some "connection" between him and the main heroine and that's all.>It's not anything else than the generic "Girl found her Prince Charming (Cloud) she believes she met once in her dream ("first crush" in the past)" trope.
>>737877918>Big disagreeshut the fuck up
>>737878142But he has his own game.
>>737877918>Compendiumit's Compilation you dumb zoomerI couldn't care less what you think
>>737877441The moral is that making sequels is wrong even if you call them remakes.
>>737878142OK bro please use real English, and I don't say this as a "gotcha", I'm genuinely interested in this and in your take. Nojima is infamously terribly at explaining himself, autismo that he is. From the top again, what exactly was Zack originally, and what about him bothers you?
>>737877539God I love using his moveset. At least in newgame+ let us have access to his moves or something.
>>737878161>big melty over a fictional characterJesus Christ>>737878197>I don't care!!>replied to me first unpromptedCool, thanks faggot.
>>737878378fuck off retard
>>737878142It's amazing how much FF7 fans hate FF7.
>>737877441frien
I'm so glad Zack got put in the cuck shed in Rebirth. Everything to do with the Compilation is such garbage.
>>737878460>It's amazing how much FF7 fans hate FF7 Compilation garbageFTFY
>>737878516Zack is in OG. You're complaining how Zack exists.
>>737878491If you think about it, aren't (You) in the cuck shed? Watching your favorite game get torn and ravished then enjoyed by other people while you seethe in your cage?
>Aerith cuckolds mad Zack existsYour waifu is dead and lost the MC bowl. You are the ninibros of /v/. Nino lost, and so did Aerith.
>>737878575No. I don't mind him in the original game. I enjoy laughing at people who like the generic cookie cutter character he is in CC and the Demake shit.>>737878608Nah, the original still exists. Only cucks are the ones paying for 3 shitty games.
>>737878761What is your opnion on Zack and Aerith?
>>737878841I don't have one.
>>737878761Zack in CC didn't overwrite any lore implications in OG. Not like you will care that Cloud's buster sword wasn't originally Zack's for example.
>>737878984He won't, Aerith cucks' hate for Zack is based on nothing but cuckoldry. Zack cucked them, then their waifu died lmao.
>bringing up Aerith out of nowhereholy fuck waifufags are insufferable
I hate CC and KH secondaries like you wouldn't believe.
>>737879215CC was closer to OG than Remake is to CC
>>737878575What would be a valid criticism of 7R?
>>737878310He's an "necessary cue" for the "mystery of Cloud's personality" subplot and not anything else.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkyPaoxz1mU&t=2980Post-disc1 OG is just a sloppy patchwork, even the so-called "Real Cloud" was hastily done. (the socially retarded Cloud in AC is the real Cloud Nojimbo wants.)
>>737879304Nice work
Zacks role in the remake is stupid and he's a better character when he's dead. I can forgive aeris for her spirit walking bullshit considering she's got ancient plot powers, but there's no reason for Zack to be pulling that shit.
>the socially retarded Cloud in AC is the real Cloud Nojimbo wants.>>737879412
>>737877441>>737877441>had i killed the Turks, sector 7 wouldnt have been destroyed>had i killed mad science guy on the beach, much suffering could have been prevented>had i killed fat rapist crime boss, we wouldnt have caused trouble at the gold saucerstop being a pussy and kill your enemies when you got the chance
>>737877441Femboy Cloud
>>737879560Sorry anon but these aren't characters in a story, they are mascots. They sell cans of soda and action figures and appear in mobile games. They aren't supposed to do anything bad. You just look at them and say "there's cloud from ff7" and hand over the cash.
>>737877441That everything after the og has been complete trash. Every character and interaction between them makes them is worse. Every faithful moment has worse direction and the new unfaithful shit is just insulting. Desperately continuing the meme of trying to make Zack anything beyond a decent plot device is just sad at this point. Its a game made for fags who want to like FF7, and maybe like the character designs and waifus. But don't actually like FF7.
>>737879381Too linear>>737879445Zack obtained the gift of the goddess in CC.
>>737877698Because he's a faggot?
>>737878575Zack's story was told in bits and pieces in the OG in a very mysterious way, even his death is an optional cutscene that you have to find.Crisis Core made Zack into a dork and retconned the Nibelheim incident and added unnecessary characters.Remake just fucking resurrected him from the dead for no reason other than fanservice
The plot of FF7 is inherently less interesting when Zack is alive
>>737879797Nibelheim still happened and Zack is still dead.
>end of Remake>"dude don't you understand, now that the whispers are out of the way things can be different now!">Rebirth>nothing is different, the same things are still happening except more cringe>oh and the whispers are back just pretend the end of Remake didn't happenRebirth is a cowardly game
>>737879763>Too linearHowso?
>ZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKZACKHoly fucking VIRGINS absolutely MIND-BROKEN by the one and only great ZACHAD CHADAIR. Even Cloud looks up to ZACHAD and WORSHIPS HIM.
>>737879992It's the fault of the OG really, but Part 1's episodic nature means you don't get to explore Midgar like you would expect a jrpg should allow you, especially before endgame. And also directly causing the endgame superboss only be a VR enemy.
>>737879797This. Zack was actually pretty good for what was needed for the plot. And having a few extra optional moments was a nice touch. But since the OG he's become indicative of how far Square has fallen. Just reeks of desperation to milk a decent one off side character that was only good in small doses. Kinda like what SW did with boba fett.
>>737878642>You are the ninibros of /v/Whoa that's going too far. Nino never had a shot. Aerith nearly won then she died. Aerith is the Rem of /v/Rem came back eventually but no one cares about Re:Zero anymore since the author completely shat the bed with her return/arc 7 in general. it's kinda like how 7R is ruining FF7's legacy lol
>>737879985Yes, the trilogy introduces ideas and counterideas, leading to a resolution, a synthesis in part 3
>>737877539I like him even more in Before Crisis. All other Zacks need to fuck right off though, definitely.
>>737880197>It's the fault of the OG reallyAlways the case, unfortunately.
>>737879985They needed a final boss for Remake
>>737880579Shut up SubTXT nobody cares. Lose weight.
>>737879985At first I was disappointed that rebirth did exactly what I was hoping it wouldn't do and told others wouldn't happen. But then I began to understand (and got some help from youtube videos) that rebirth was actually doing exactly what I'd hoped, I just didn't realise it yet.
>>737877513>>737878042>>737878261>>737879761Underrated posts
>>737880662His video was really good and really eye opening
>>737877482>t. Nabokov
>>737880873How about I rate this dick inside your ass? (This is an invitation to unconsensual gay sex that is made to humiliate you).
>>737880904it is but I enjoy watching people get unreasonably angry and confused
>>737880942What did he mean by this?
>>737880904It easily destroyed 99% of haters and doubters complaints. I don't think a single criticism of 7R's story was left intact after that video dropped. It also pre-emptively sets up that part 3 will be kino no matter what.
>>737879912But Genesis was there for no fucking reason
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>>737877441dont play any games with birth anywhere in the title, that's all
>>737881529
>Aerith cuck having an AI schizo episode