>RE1 ends with the characters swearing to take down Umbrella>RE2 ends with the characters swearing to take down Umbrella>RE3 ends with the characters swearing to take down Umbrella>RECV ends with the characters swearing to take down Umbrella>RE4 starts with Leon briefly explaining that Umbrella went bankrupt or something offscreen lolI feel like people don't talk about this enough
>>737884939Who cares !!!! Leon is cool and quippy !!!!!! Mikami saved the franchise !!
>>737884939yea, the characters exposed them and made them go bankrupt
>>737884939Then you finally get to play through it....in Umbrella Chronicles
>>737884939Pity i never saved that pic of the tranny hunter guy doing the same pose
You can't do a RE game where the characters are on the offensive.
>>7378853394, 5, and Leon's parts of 9 were
>>737884939Umbrella was just a mask for the Shadow Government. Replace "Umbrella" with "Jews" and it becomes more relatable, mainly how you always talk about the Jews, but never actually do anything about it. Basically what I'm saying is Leon and Chris should have gone full punisher mode. Jill should have gone "Stay in the Kitchen" mode.
>>737885504my kitchen cause she's my wife
Did RE9 give any new content of Emily?
>>737884939>RE1 ends with the characters swearing to take down Umbrella>RE2 ends with the characters swearing to take down Umbrella>RE Gaiden ends with Leon dying and Barry bringing back a B.O.W weapon that is a parasite intended for the Europe Umbrella location.
>>737884939RE4 was the first game in the series where the timeline jumped forward a significant amount, what did you want them to do? go kill a bunch of scientists?
Why was RE3 Remake such dogshit? I'm guessing it's because the jews at Crapcom just wanted to get to 4 to sell a gorillion copies and shat it out as quickly as possible out of obligation.
>>737884939People don't talk about it enough because it's the only well written part of the entire Resident Evil mythos.
>>737885562Hound Wolf Squad shows up at the very very end to tell Leon Chris has a message for him. We don't know what the message is or where Chris is.
>>737885620Yeah they pawned it off onto a 3rd party while they worked on 4 remake and Village
>>737885620RE3 Remake isn't a completely terrible game, it just pales in comparison to RE2 remake because that game was in development for many years, stuck in limbo, which allowed the better parts of the game to marinate, then they rushed out 3 and shat out 4 in half the time, and it shows
>>7378857494's remake is great and has a ton of content wdym
>>737884939It's all okay now. Umbrella's CEO Oswell E. Spencer saw a sad baby and felt bad about everything. He made a MacGuffin and now Umbrella's slate is clean. Be sure to tune in to the RE9 DLCs, which will feature every character negatively impacted by Umbrella weeping and forgiving Spencer at his grave.
>>737885864I thought it was a weird twist too but it's not that big a deal lol. As if Resident Evil has never had any MacGuffins
>>737885646ACKSHUALLY they said captain redfield so MAYBE Claire is now a captain of the BSAA (since Leon is married to Jill and not Claire)
>>737885749RE3 is not terrible, but it's possibly the worst remake of all time. The original RE3 is probably the most replayable RE game of all time. Not only are a shitton of things randomized, like enemy placements, items and encounters, but from the very beginning you can explore a ton of Raccoon city and choose which areas to tackle first, which then changes the other areas accordingly. That on top of the "choice" mechanic made each playthrough of it feel really different. Everyone shits on Jill's and Nemesis's designs, how Nemesis is a joke never kills anyone and turns into a dog, how they cut out the clock tower, the park and the grave digger, which are all huge criticisms, but people never bring up how linear the remake is compared to the original.
>>737885956Bro think they would actually use Claire for anything other than a side game or a movie
>>737885941But this is the MacGuffin that changes literally everything! Spencer is like some sort of reverse Lucifer now!
RE9's entire plot revolves around the fact that Umbrella was just a proxy used by the antagonistic eliteIt was a decoy used to build influence, perhaps even some dependency by the public, as well as act as a corporeal body to take blame rather than direct focus to whom we are learning are ultimately members of The Connections
>>737886025Jake's blood kind of served the same purpose before they forgot about that plot point lol. I also assume Elpis will be in incredibly short supply. Spencer is probably the only one who knew how to make it, and he's been dead for like 20 years.
>>737886107Yeah, I actually really like the new connections lore. It makes what I'm talking about here actually make sense instead of being a "hey nevermind actually" asspull. It just took 21 years to resolve that. We also got a tiny little section in Umbrella Chronicles, but like... come on
>>737884939Yeah the early RE games felt like they built up toward something. As amusingly accurate as the way Umbrella was taken down in RE4, it's just too anticlimactic.
>>737885749There is the fact that like RE3, the Remake is also a rushed project out of the unused assets for RE2, and also hated a lot at release too and loved after a while.History always repeats itself.
You would honestly expect a company that makes a bunch of flesh and zombie monsters and makes a bunch of magic fucked up evil superhumans to fold.How much money is there in the 'making lots of monsters that kill everyone' business? Who's paying you for that? The military? Oops, they were all eaten by monsters. And wait, now your research facility was eaten by monsters and you have to nuke it. Well. Was a good run I guess.It would make sense to go after the *people* responsible for the evil Umbrella actions, but the ones that we know about are all dead anyway. Mostly because of the monsters.
>>737886107Notto disso shitto again
>Oh nose, it`s Umbrella!!!>Oh nose, it`s Tricell!!!!>Oh nose, somehow it`s still Umbrella!!!>Oh nose, it was The Connections all along!!Aren`t these clowns getting tired of this shit??
>>737886130I think Jake needs to stop retroactively stealing Saint Spencer's thunder.Shitposting aside, Elpis reminded me of the S.D. Perry novels' explanation that the T-Virus was originally some sort of accidental biological miracle that would've eliminated death by trauma. Then Umbrella pulled the whole "But how do we make this a substantial business model" argument and killed the creators in order change it into a marketable bio weapon. The son of the original T-Virus creators took on an alias and infiltrated Umbrella to almost the top and acted as a helper-in-shadows figure to the protagonists. It would be pretty funny to see this storyline continue with Spencer apologizing for killing the guy's (think his name was Trent or something) parents and giving him the original T-Virus/Elpis. All because a baby made him feel bad about everything.
I find it weird that she doesn't appear anywhere after 5.And she was a well received character.
Claire assaulted an Umbrella facility in RE:CV and all it got her was a bunch of dead security goons and getting thrown onto zombie-island-prison.As it turns out, shooting zombies and bioweapons doesn't make you perfectly suited to violently overthrowing a corporation.
>>7378855621. why are they sexy2. is that jill? I'd recognize that stance anywhere3. what do those 4 scope goggle things even do, why the four scopes, does it give you some kind of super vision or something
>>737887331>and loved after a whileNobody loves RE3make except for shit-eating subhumans
>>737887792There just hasn't really been a good point to bring her back up. I would make sense for her to be in 10 with all the BSAA stuff going on. 5 is probably getting a remake at some point. I would bet on her being in 10.Then again, they could just do what they always do and steer the story in a completely different direction and just not resolve the conflict within the BSAA at all until it's offhandedly mentioned in Resident Evil 15.
>so uh can we remain in operation?>you killed basically everyone in a major city and made us nuke it, your liability numbers in the trillion, no you can't continue to be a corporation.>y-yeah I guess that makes sense
>>737887834Bro didn't play Village. That's one of the members of Chris' new PMC after he went rogue and stopped taking orders from the BSAA.
>>737884939RE1 they only find out what Umbrella are doingRE 2 and 3 take place at the same time, and are when the world finds out about UmbrellaIn all the games that place after they are taking down Umbrella, Chris is taking down their European division during 3In 5 we see Spencer, the leader of Umbrella dieWhat did you think, we would get Ace Ventura: Raccoon City
>>737887831That prison island was the major transaction point between the Antarctic distribution facility and all the global lab facilities, additionally being the seat of power for the entire USS command and training. Wesker nuking the island and Antarctic base with zombie aids probably did as much in billions of dollars worth of damage as Umbrella's stock prices tanking, so really Wesker is the hero in all this.
>>737888073You're correct, I didn't play Village.also I googled it aside from making you look like a cool robot or spider-person the goggles give you like 120 degree vision instead of like 50 degree or whatever that you'd have from just two lenses. Neat.
>>737888242I would think the tease about taking the fight to Umbrella at the end of every single game would result in the taking the fight to Umbrella, seeing how they teased it at the end of every single game. 1,2,3,and CV all end with the characters saying they're going after Umbrella. You can't tell me having them go bankrupt offscreen is a satisfying conclusion to that. Also 5 came out after 4 if you're unaware.
>>737887953i heard the same back then at gamespot forums zoom zoom
>>737884939>Can't find Chris>Vows to find Chris>Biohazard 5: Lost in Nightmares has them both in BSAA and together with no explanation for this epilogue.Cacpcom forgot.
Leon is literally me
>>737888514...Okay? So? That doesn't change the fact that RE3make cut out 2/3 of the game and turned it into a movie. Oh wait, you must be one of those shit-eating subhumans I was talking about.
>>737885620They wanted GaaS *fart* sloppa, which is why the stupid Dead by Daylight bullshit is in it instead of the Clocktower and Water Treatment Plant.They wasted time on dead multiplayer game modes that fucking die stillborn instead of focusing on SINGLE PLAYER CONTENT SCENARIOS.
>>737888287>so really Wesker is the hero in all this.As he always has been.>Complete.>Global.>Series ending.>*sigh, then rushes Capcom with a QTE*
>>737888587They team up in a scenario in Umbrella Chronicles. Seems Capcom just likes setting up future games without actually planning on following up on them and then they need to scramble to figure out how to resolve it. Like Jake's blood in 6 or Natalia in Rev2. At least they actually wrap some things up instead of completely forgetting about them and pretending they didn't happen, even if it does take them a decade or two. 8 was a direct sequel to 7, and 9 continues with the stuff about the Connections and the BSAA to a small extent. Seems like they're trying to be better about keeping the story coherent
So...you are saying that we should bring Wesker as the main villain in RE10?
>>737888998Yes. Make me play as Chris and Jill, bring Sheva back since she was BSAA, and have Jill stop being a bratty cunt and go back to old sweetiepie Jill. Jake should probably show up too. And have a 45 minute unskippable sex scene between Chris and Jill and Rebecca.
>Dead Aim reveals that some fag was the reason the T-Virus broke out and he transitions into a troon Tyrant at the end>Bad guys for the last couple of games are called The Connections>IRL Louisville Kentucky used to have a gay bar called The Connection>Project Zomboid takes place in a part fictional, part real section of Kentucky, which includes LouisvilleFeels like I'm falling into some sort of gay hillbilly rabbit hole that gives RE and PZ a sort of gay, balls-touching canonical Connection
Pull a MGS3 and have the player play as Wesker in RE10. Or hell, play as whoever got turned into Nemesis.
if Umbrella succeeded in killing Jill via Nemesis, wouldn't have people gotten suspicious how she died before she got to testify?
>>737892381>WHAT'S THEIR TAX POLICY???
>>737884939Who cares. Classic RE is dead and Capcom doesn't give a shit. Go for indies.
>>737892892Yeah I get it, suspension of disbelief, but this is a far more grounded-in-reality IP than something like Lord of the Rings, not just in setting but character & organization motivations and methods. I don't think it's crazy to ask how so many scientific organizations can fund such elaborate morally-questionable projects, especially when the immediate goals are usually>what if we made a big zombie dude?
>>737893057Capcom cares, but they also know damn well that spending millions of dollars on a plodding survival-horror would make back a fraction of what they spent. No developer is dumb enough to run to the game awards with a trailer for their next game: Slow-ass Survival Shit featuring tank controls and fixed camera angles. Come be amazed at how we haven't changed anything from the 90s except the number of polygons. c'mon man
>>737887440did you rike it
>>737893267It was semi-grounded up until 4 which established that this is a universe where there are naturally occurring dog sized parasites that can mind control human beings, and then 7 and 8 doubled down on this with cave mold being able to morph a milf into a giant undead dragon. At least before that game you could handwave away all the sci-fi bullshit with the viruses being made with mad science in a laboratory.I do wish they stuck to Umbrella a bit longer instead of shelving them so early though.>>737886107RE9's plot is completely fucking retarded. There's apparently an infinite amount of ex-Umbrella researchers out there just as sociopathic as Spencer was trying to continue his legacy of fucking the world up, an infinite amount of Wesker clones out there that all die instantly and are nowhere near as cool as he was, everyone is secretly being manipulated by shadowy figures you've never heard of before who are in turn being manipulated by shadowy figures you've never heard of before who in turn are etc.Also Leon is literally just John Wick now, right down to stance and the way he dresses, and he's been flanderized as a stupid quip machine. Grace was endearing but her stutter felt really artificial with the way it only happened at the start of words.
>>737892381Their founders are multibillionaires from aristocrat families
>>737886241>I really liked an immense retcon asspull that attributes everything done in the past to a secret criminal organization that didn't even exist until 7 conjured it into existence
>>737892381The only unrealistic part is them doing inhumane experiments on first world soil. IRL they'd 100% be doing that shit in some third world hellhole nobody cares about.
>>737884939Yeah paying the gov for BoW cleanup is probably much more expensive than an oil spillWrongful deaths alone could bankrupt them
>Rookie cop can survive a zombie virus outbreak on his first day>Same guy can kill your ultimate bioweapons with a hatchet while dying of zombie AIDSWhy the fuck would anyone invest in bioweapons at this point? Just copy whatever training regime the US government gave Leon.
>>737889351No, that was James Marcus’ leech clone. Morpheus was blamed for it because he looks like a young Marcus.
>>737885276This being ignored is a sign of how many people do not play the games.
>>737885989To wit, anon, the linearity was something that was lamented when the game first dropped.It just faded as people who never enjoyed the og took over the conversation.
>and then there was an even bigger secret underground lab
I can't play RE3 original to this day because figuring out the dodge timing is very difficult, it takes forever to get back to the game after dying and I am too autistic to continue playing if I am unable to perfectly dodge the first zombie you encounter 14 times in a row.
>>737887834>what do those 4 scope goggle things even do, why the four scopes, does it give you some kind of super vision or somethingDifferent forms of vision that are all funneled to a central view.Night vision and thermal vision, with a better the 90 degree view.
>>737897025just play it like it doesn't exist
>company get outed as doing highly illegal shit>the people behind the scenes go into hiding, and throw the corporate suits under the busI mean, that's literally what would happen.Do you think if Coca Cola were caught doing human experimentation and making bioweapons, they would all hole up in the Coca Cola fortress, with like machine gun encampments and stuff? No one in like HR or the IT department, or none of the janitors would be like "fuck these people, I'm giving all of the evidence to the authorities"?The ultimate twist of RE4 is that Wesker is still developing bioweapons and doing nefarious shit, so basically "Umbrella" never went away. How do people not get this.
re is one of my fav series but i despise the fanbase so muchplotfags are subhumans
>>737889106I miss old Jill, back when Capcom could make intelligent, introspective women characters like old Jill and Aya Brea,
>>737897490>Capcom>Aya BreaI too dont play the games I talk about I just watch youtube videos and make shit up
>>737884939How does Umbrella even explain all this shit to their shareholders? "Um, yes, we promised you all returns on your investments but look at this cool virus that can wipe out all life on earth and just destroy all your wealth!"
RE5 is also a whole game about Chris, and to a lesser extend Jill, going out into the world and taking the fight to the people who were running Umbrella.They raided Spencer's home, and chased Wesker half way across the world. What do you want?
>>737884987this but unironically
>>737897530You didn't play PE2, then.
>>737897025I never used dodge, RE3 has you swimming with ammo anyway so just kill everything.
>>737897823Fighting Nemmie without cheese requires dodge.Also gets you easy time in Mercenaries.
>>737886241>instead of being a "hey nevermind actually" asspullAre you joking?
>>737897657I guess Spencer is like Baron Rothschild and has stupid levels of generational wealth, and the corporate side of umbrella is just a fake front. they probably do develop perfectly normal pharmaceuticals, and 90% of people working at the company thinks that's all they're doing, and then Spencer's inner circle of NWO weirdos are aware of the underground labs and super secret projects.
>>737897024kek
>>737896808Have you ever tried to play Umbrella Chronicles? It's fucking dogshit, you can't blame people for not playing it. I've been a supporter of this series for my entire life and even play fanmade RE games but the wii titles were too garbage even for me.
>>737898420You're exactly correct, I honestly think some of the writers were conspiracy knowers and based it on real life umbrella companies like how one mega-conglomerate owns every single food brand in walmart, and that mega-conglomerate is owned by a handful of sheisters.
>everyone is in their 50s>they never managed to put a stop to bioterrorism>for every secret lab they blow up another one shows up>there are like 5 different evil mega corporations with infinite money doing experiments nowThe Resident Evil universe unironically reminds me of Warhammer 40k, where humanity is on the brink of colapse and has no hope of actually winning any of the wars they're waging and the best they can do is delay the inevitable and maintain the galaxy in a perpetual stalemate
>>737898825it's a perfectly fun arcade style shooter.
>>737893860>was semi-groundednever played the games award, good job anon
>>737900179>I can't read
>>737900179If there was ever an argument to be made about RE being "grounded" (which there probably isn't), it was well and truly out the window after Code Veronica, where Wesker is just alive again and has super powers now. 9/10 people being mad about 4, don't know what they're mad about.>dude, they got rid of Umbrella as the villain!They pretty much didn't. The opening crawl is a bait and switch. Ada Wong is an agent working for Wesker.>dude, they made RE silly!By like a fraction of a degree more than what it was.>dude, it's more action than survival horror!3 already kind of did that. Plus, the entire direction of 4 is great, and people were bored of traditional survival horror by that point.
Some people really just want the game where the four main characters storm some kind of Umbrella Wily Fortress, and will never understand why that's a stupid idea, will they?>Watch out! The shareholders are coming at us with AKs!This is RE being "grounded" in their minds.
>>737893267>but this is a far more grounded-in-reality IP than something like Lord of the Ringsit absolutely is not lmao
I thought the implication was that Chris was active somewhere in Raccoon City ("I'm sure he'll show up sooner or later.") handling something related, but with some distance between Leon and Grace
>>737896808yeah, most people don't dogshit off-shoots instead of mainline games
>>737893860>It was semi-grounded
>>737901654I genuinely forgot CV existed. Fair enough, CV started it and RE4 reinforced it.>>737900529>They pretty much didn't. The opening crawl is a bait and switch. Ada Wong is an agent working for Wesker.What does that have to do with Umbrella being shelved?>By like a fraction of a degree more than what it was.Not really, the first few games took themselves seriously (no, the voice acting being unintentionally bad in 1 doesn't count), but then again I don't think 4 is terribly silly, just way more Michael Bay action movie with Leon basically being a ninja who isn't intimidated by anything.>3 already kind of did that. Plus, the entire direction of 4 is great, and people were bored of traditional survival horror by that point.I strongly disagree that 3 was more actiony in theme, in gameplay it was definitely more action packed than 2 and especially 3 but thematically it's still a creepy horror game in line with 2's atmosphere. RE4 is a phenomenal game, I just dislike some of the changes it made to the series, if it was a standalone title I'd have very little to complain about with it. The masses being bored of traditional survival horror means nothing to me, no genre gets stale ever, you can ALWAYS have more good games in any format.
>>737884939People used to talk about it over a decade ago. The Umbrella plotline is ancient, anon.
>>737884939>RE4 starts with Leon briefly explaining that Umbrella went bankrupt or something offscreen lolIt makes sense though, what the fuck was Chris and Claire bumming around Europe going to accomplish?>lmao I shot up a corporate office and got my ass sent to Umbrella's private prisonAt least Capcom had enough sense to acknowledge Alyssa's investigative journalism and government sanctions were more effective.And honestly with how middling RE5 and RE6 were with how hard they careened back into "lmao Umbrella" it's probably for the best they scuttled it. And then really put a hard stop to Umbrella with RE Requiem's ending.And for how much Leon looms over the franchise, at least they didn't do something like saying his spec ops work was the defining moment that took down Umbrella and contrive a reason for him to throw down with Wesker directly.
>>737899453Leon was specifically drinking away his sorrows in one of the movies in regards to this exact trend. The cast is well aware of their circumstances.
>>737884939Reasonably what is one person meant to do against a faceless corporate entity? Umbrella likely had some high-paid lawyers to help settle any cases filed against them, and I'm sure the government was letting them do whatever they wanted to do
>>737885116this
>>737905289None of them have any work-life balance, of course they are miserable after spending their entire lives chasing after biohazards. Ada needs to throw Leon some pussy before he croaks.
>>737902672Umbrella weren't shelved. You're not understanding what Umbrella actually are in the context of the story (they're a front for Spencer's bullshit, which then gets co-opted by Wesker).Umbrella changes names. it doesn't go away.
>>737906125Umbrella was a corporation. They were dissolved and probably a lot of the higher ups were arrested if they were exposed as having knowledge of the sketchier shit going on. Spencer went into hiding and Wesker went rogue.
>>737906226right so the Umbrella storyline progressed. it wasn't shelved
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>>737906554The Umbrella threat is whittled down to two core guys, Spencer and Wesker, and then Wesker kills Specer. This whole storyline continues playing out across RE4 and 5.
>>737884939It's almost as if RE4 was not an RE game. Like, if you named the main characters Lenny Keonard and Asia Wang, it would be entirely its own thing.
>>737906754>Umbrella wasn't shelved, it was just reduced to two relatively minor threats (really 1, Spencer didn't do shit but be old until he died) that were background characters for the most part
>>737899453A lot of the world seems actually pretty stable but the fact the US government needs a DEDICATED anti-bioterrorism agency speaks volumes to how the situation must be if Chris and Leon are busy all the time
>>737906858>Asia WangShe's Chinese, not Thai.
>>737906858It's a zombie themed horror game with biohazards, and spooky gothic buildings to explore. It's fully within the original vision of RE.
>>737906987That's an immensely reductive and retarded statement.
>>737906909the business part of Umbrella wasn't the problem. It was a front that the real villains threw under the bus, as they disappeared to progress their research and continue their plans.Like I said, they were never going to make a game where the board of shareholders, and Bob from the IT department are coming at you with an AK. That would have actually been sillier than what they did.
>>737907021Have you played Resident Evil?
>>737907180Grow up and act like an adult you obnoxious baiting faggot.
>>737896808>shitty wii bingus spinoff>the gamespick one
>>737907131>a corporation with an immense amount of money and power posing a threat to heroes who lack either of those is exactly the same thing as a my goofy retarded scenario of office interns opening fire on themYou are infantile and not worth talking to.
>>737907240It was an evolution of the original vision of the franchise. I didn't say anything outlandish at all.
>>737907412First it was fully within the original vision.Now it's an evolution.Nice goalpost moving, faggot.
>>737885116>final battle was some court battle off-screencool
>>737907412RE4 is pretty far from Resident Evil 1 aesthetic and gameplaywise, although the franchise was progressing towards more action with 2's increased enemy count and 3's faster gameplay.
>>737906937It makes sense though, Leon does participate in more conventional spec ops stuff but DSO is meant to be kind of a specialized rapid response vanguard when it comes to dealing with BOWs. Same as why you want SWAT and bomb squads and things instead of just expecting your regular patrol officer to be able to do all that shit. A lot of spinoff stuff he's just shown up to consult local forces and only ends up pulling triggers because shit got out of control.Even something like RE4 was just meant to be an investigation with a police escort before he ended up isolated and on his own and had to massacre the entire Spanish countryside.Look at Requiem's opening segment with Leon, look how fast that zombie outbreak kicked off with just a few infected.
>>737907353Spencer's creepy inner circle as we're shown in the games are mostly dead by the time 4 comes around. Marcus, Birkin, and Ashford are dead. That leaves Spencer and Wesker. What did we lose out on?>dude, we have to fight UmbrellaOkay, what is Umbrella? What are they fighting?
>>737907503those are the same statement.
>>737907634Zombie outbreak is a bit of a stretch. Gideon's zombies caused a good amount of mayhem but they dont spread the infection so it's not that big of a deal.
Should I play/finish Revelations and Revelations 2 (PC versions)? I've recently finished REMake2 and REMake3, so I'm trying to think to go onto REMake4, or play these that i think I missed in the interim. I did play original 4, 5, 6, 7 already, but I have REMake4 to play before Village and then 9
>>737907751No, anon, not at all.
>>737907804Should probably finish those but I'd expect them to get a remake. They're not super canon though>>737907634That's fair, elite agent and all that
>>737907870you're too low IQ
>>737907902Rev 1 and 2 are fully canon.
>>737884939If OG re4 was made this year, EVERYONE would shit on that. It was cheap and lame. It was a horrible way to "kill" umbrella off. The only reason people give it a pass is because they weren't as miserable back then
>>737907870Stop responding to baiting retards.
>>737907963We really didn't give it a pass. RE4 was very polarizing when it came out. The general consensus as I remember it was that it was a good game but a terrible RE game. 4chan and the internet in general used to be a lot more laid back and conversations were more nuanced and relaxed so we could talk about the pros and cons of a game without everything turning into a bloodbath.
The unintentionally funniest thing RE ever did was have Wesker acknowledge that Umbrella's legitimate pharmaceutical and healthcare business was actually profitable.I think Resident Evil would benefit from one character being an Umbrella executive-level employee that wasn't into the whole "dump viruses on the entire world and rule the ashes" shit and got pissed that their golden goose got killed because of some megalomaniacs that were around when the company was founded, trying to give everyone stage 9 zombie cancer with Giga Marburg Virus.
If you knew how corrupt and powerful corporations are then you would know why umbrella was able to do what it did without much pushback
>>737908052Thats what im saying. Theres no way in hell it would fly today. But at the same time, everyone acts like that isnt the case. If that shit happened now, the hate would be overwhelming
>>737907543Should've made it into an Ace Attorney spinoff
>>737908052>RE4 was very polarizing when it came out.What is this insane revisionism? It was literally one of the most acclaimed games ever made at its release, and the past few entries before it like CV were being raked over the coals for being tired mechanical rehashes.
>>737908173I'm talking about how 4chan and the internet discussed it, not whatever gay gaming journalists being paid to shill stuff were saying.
>>737908052You can tell this pic was made by some bitter contrarian because no fucking RE besides the first RE1 ever made you actually think that hard about ammo. The real challenge was just how much shit you wanted to carry or not carry between item boxes.
>RE9 is about the scars of the Raccoon City incident and somebody killing survivors from it>only Leon and Sherry are present>nothing about Claire or Jill or even Carlosokay
>>737884939Okay, that's nice and all but have you seen Jill's butt in this game?
>>737908324RE9 is a followup of RE2 remake for people who never played the main games.
>>737908454Then where is Claire?! She's just as important as Leon is to the Raccoon City story!
>>737907683john umbrella should've turned into a MEGA HYPER tyrant who gets blowed up by a rocket launcher with 17 different shots of the rocket being fired at him
>>737908093I mean, some guy kidnapped and whored out tons of children to tons of rich fuckers throughout the world and the most outrage we got was some fucking twitter posts. Not that hard to believe.
>>737908534Claire being here would force them to use Rev 2's lore, which cant be as easily swayed away like RE6, so Sherry is here instead.
>>737908534she's even more important to the city and Sherry, Leon's whole deal was Ada and Mr.X. really should've been her instead of Leon but Leon is the fujo fan favorite so he gets the spotlight much more than Claire
>>737884939>Outbreak ends with a teaser showing Umbrella has a research outpost in the ruins of Raccoon City, monitoring for and researching something mysterious>never followed up onThe frustrating thing about Resident Evil is the fact that it never really had someone directing the series as a whole which meant every title goes in a radically different direction from the previous one. It's a bit of an issue with Capcom franchises at large, especially since Itsuno was basically the last person at that company who was had that role for any franchise besides Takumi who doesn't even want to work on mainline Ace Attorney anymore.That's why every game feels so schizophrenic when compared to the rest of the series, because they've got different people directing and writing each one. The guy who directed 7 also directed 9 but not 8, and each of them had different writers.
>>7379082624chan loved RE4.There was always the occasional sperg complaining that it "made Resident Evil silly", but no one serious was listening to those people.
>>737908743Leon has ties to Sherry... just not in the remake. Claire's relevance to the plot continues in CODE Veronica. RE9 just resurfaced Raccon City for easy internet clout, and Leon just happens to be more popular.
>>737884939Outbreak is canon and they had the survivors testified against Umbella l, which lead to the bankruption
>>737907543What did you think was gonna happen, they shoot up a stock ticker?Corporations are ideas, legal fiction.
>>737908873naw even in RE2OG if we go by the canon routes (Claire A Leon B) all Leon does for Sherry is carry her from the security office to the train at the end.
>>737908913I'm counting Umbrella Chronicles(or was it Darkside Chronicles?) and a file from RE6. Leon would put a bullet through his own skull but making sure Sherry survived made him power through it. It is quite a thin connection but still.
>>737908913>>737908993Also, it should be noted that while Claire A Leon B is the canon route, events from Leon A and Claire B are sometimes brought up in lore.
>>737908993I mean he joins the gubberment agency to protect Sherry in 3's ending slide I believe, the connection has always been present but it's mostly a background element and not anything actually shown in the games until now, though I admit 6 is a blind spot for me because that game is stinky. But Claire is the one who does most the Sherry plotline, Leon's too busy with the yellow fever
>>737909112Leon becomes an agent to protect Sherry, yes. But it should be noted that we dont know if it thats the case in the remakes, and since RE9 uses the remakes as canon then that connection might not exist anymore.>it's mostly a background elementThe most important Resident Evil lorebits tend to be background elements. The amount of stuff never explicitly showed in the games is impressive.Also i like RE 6, but its story is mostly ignored so youre not missing much
>>737909389RE9 is really funny because it wants to be based on the remake continuity, but then the theme in the RPD lobby is the one from RE2OG. it wanted it's nostalgia grab but based the entire location on a game people played 7 years ago lmao. makes that whole section of the game feel hollow
>>737909587The theme is there to try to hide the fact the RPD is only a 5 minute walking section. It, alongside the rest of Raccoon City, is Capcom's cheap attempt at nostalgia bait, which only works if you never actually played the OG games set in Raccoon City. Although going by the old lore, all of Raccoon should be a crater so this game couldnt even happen
>>737909993supposedly the game was originally planned to be solely about Leon and RC, and thank god they pivoted because the RC parts were the weakest parts of the game honestly. always really nice to see Capcom being able to flex their spencer mansion muscles every now and then, but hearing about how it almost didn't happen kills me man. I was real sad to see the hospital go, give Grace a grenade launcher and some more enemies and her part of the game would've been up there with the classics in term of quality.
>>737910170I'd say the hospital already is at the level of the classics. Despite being quite brief, it's surprisingly well realised. Every single survival horror RE game loses itself a bit towards the end so i see Grace's section as 'Resident Evil but it ends before getting bad'.
>>737884939I have been bitching about it to deaf ears for 21 years now, because "MUH EPIC LEON".
>>737884939I got so hyped by the Leon B ending of RE2 as a kid, I used to dream about what a RE game fighting Umbrella would be like. The betrayal of Capcom with RE4 was very real. >mfw turning on RE4 for the first time, and watching the opening
>>737885339code veronica like intro ,ambush, got captured then scape with a biohazard break
>>737898825I did when it came out in 2008~ or so. It was alright. Also Darkside Chronicles, explaining Krauser's backstory.I can see why you hated Chronicles if you didn't have a real Wii and just emulated it. You really can't enjoy House of the Dead type of games without the authentic light gun controls.
>caring about the story in such a silly franchise
>>737911132>anon thinks that just because something is silly we shouldnt care about it
>>737911132Dude, people get hung up on continuity in stuff like The Simpsons.
>>737908882nothing is canon cause g virus doesnt exist in 9 only elpiss
>>737911358wot
>>737884939This and the fact when Leon and Ada meet neither are shocked to see eachother. Leon talks to her as if he met her the day before, I always hated that shit
>>737884939*Insert MGS2 ending of taking down patriotsFollowing sequels don't have anything to do with that and are just prequel made up stroy bullshitWhy are Japanese devs like this?
>>737911526Leon isn't shocked to see her alive because she's the one who threw the rocket launcher down to him at the end of RE2 man.
>>737884939No one wants to admit their favorite characters were ultimately just larping virtue signalers.
>>737911692And that was like 5 years before re4. They never talked or seen eacother since yet act like they talk everyday
>>737911729yeah man they're doing a dumb spy thriller romance fight, that's like the whole deal. no time for earnest discussion and sharing feelings when you're having knife sex
>>737885749This. The problem with RE3R was that it was just too short and it sucks because the gameplay was pretty tight.
When you put it that way, yeah the story is really kind of shit in this franchise isn't it
>>737911692He doesn't know that for sure tho? He thought she died
>>737911824Good. Knife sex is way cooler than emotional nonsense
>>737911729"Ada? So...it is true.""True? About what?""You...working with Wesker."He works in intelligence gathering, and clearly already had some idea that not only was she alive, but up to no good. I personally liked how the remake went even further, and Leon comes off more annoyed by her presence than anything. I never liked his lovestruck puppy act in OG4. I think maybe they were going for a Batman/Catwoman thing, but it just kind of got on my nerves.
>>737884939>>RE1 ends with the characters swearing to take down UmbrellaNo it doesn't. Umbrella isn't even mentioned in either character's endings. They were supposed to be done for at the end of the game, and Chris is watching a news report about the fallout of their investigation in his ending screen.
>>737911903he literally goes>Ada is that you?when it happens man, he clocked her voice instantly.
>>737912028>and Chris is watching a news report about the fallout of their investigation in his ending screen.could just be him watching a news report on Umbrella in general, trying to figure out how to nail them. as RE2 (Chris' Diary in the stars office)points out, basically all evidence of what happened was blown up with the manor and RC was basically a company town owned by umbrella. hard to get people to flip, and no evidence so Chris fucks off to Umbrella HQ in europe.
