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The saviours of gaming
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That'd be digital piracy
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>>737888126
Valve hasn't made a game worth playing in over 10 years. Steam is a godsend, but without it there would be plenty of other ways to get PC games.
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>>737888272
half life alyx is worth playing and that was in 2020
>but without it there would be plenty of other ways to get PC games.
like where lol valve is the one that cultivated the market
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Valve has done a shit ton of damage to the industry
>introduction of drm, loot boxes
>started the downfall of physical game ownership
>runs a gambling rink
>tried to monetize mods
Now they're trying to release overpriced hardware ($100 controller that won't work with anything but steam and a sub $1k console that goes toe to toe with a ps4 pro lmfao) but luckily that will flop considering the steam deck sold like dogshit
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>>737888126
...and nintendo
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steamies around here need to be humbled, they are far too proud to own nothing
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>>737888374
The controller works outside of steam but not with the full features.
Also everything else is a consequence of adding internet to video games.
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>Tendies trying to latch onto Valve
Stop. It's pathetic.
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>>737888126
There is no saving.
The game industry decided to make itself obsolete by only catering to old people "to be more like hollywood" when hollywood don't do this retarded shit.
The consequence is that the kids now only play on mobile, they literally don't know how to use any form of input other than a touchscreen.

In 20 years, AAA games will have no one to play em and will just fucking die, replaced by digital gambling with hot furry waifus.
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>>737888325
>like where
Going to a store and buying a disc? Amazon, directly from the publisher, store fronts like GOG or even CD key sites.
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>>737888783
You think that without Steam you could just walk in a store and buy PC discs? You also think other providers wouldnt do DRM like Starforce again? GOG only exists because of Steam's force in the market.
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>>737888126
lol tendie thinks he's on the winning team
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>>737888126
>heavily censors all ur games because anime
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>>737888471
This faggot doesn't even own a disc drive
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>>737890365
>You think that without Steam you could just walk in a store and buy PC discs?
Yes because you could walk into a store and buy PC discs before Steam existed.
We're talking about the claim that "without it there would be plenty of other ways to get PC games." There have been, are now and it's reasonable to assume a lot of those would exist without Steam. It's a completely separate conversation to argue that Steam DRM is not as bad as other forms of DRM, and I'm not interested in that conversation.
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thanking valve for saving video games is like thanking amazon saving for books
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>>737888126
>nintendo locked me out of my account cuz the feds stole my email
>sony locked me out for not accepting the terms of service
>valve trying to take away steam on windows 8 when its the only working pc i have
>microsoft is just complete and total shit and has shut down everything i do on my pc but osrs and other evil revenue streams

who the fuck would give any of these companies money desu
i would maybe buy a steam deck or machine from valve
but i wanna see if they lock me out of my games on win 8 first
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>>737888374
im not a fan of the damage they have done
they really did alot of damage to gaming desu
but its more so other people copying them
and steam greenlight
shit i dont like with valve is crap like dota 2
vr mtx etc
what i liked from valve is the steam store
left 4 dead 1 and 2
half life 1 2
tf2
etc
counter strike
they should go back to their roots and release source 2 for modding or at least commercial games
desu they should just make half life 3 on source 2 and sell it for like 40-60 dollars
and lock modding behind purchasing half life 2 or another source 2 game
cuz that is what they did 20 years ago and it was fucking great lol
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>>737891652
>Yes because you could walk into a store and buy PC discs before Steam existed.
Yeah with shit like starforce on it, it was completely worthless. Not to mention the low sales of those games were attributed to piracy and publishers pulled out of the market.
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>>737888212
what do you do when they shut off all your devices tho lol
i still got working hardware but they shadowbanned me from everything after like 2010 lol



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