One day I will play my last videogame and I will die. Lots of games will still be being released each year, but I wont be here to play it. And among this games, one will be an all time masterpiece. This makes me sooo sad
>>737890450My grandma just died :(
>>737890450You know it sucks that suicidal and self-destructive people are ultimately going to get what they want one day, while people who desperately want to live and cling on to living will have it ripped away from them some day
>>737890450>afraid of dyingweak fag, you should be afraid of what's after, everything else outside of The Void(endless sleep for eternity) sound like shit, until then play video games and stop asking stupid questions
>>737890450what's the current all time masterpiece?
>>737890450It's all relative. Because of the time you're alive in currently, you'll likely play some masterpiece games people in the future will have completely forgotten about. You likely missed some masterpiece games in the past too. You just gotta enjoy what you do play.
>>737891019-Elden Ring-BloodBorne-RE9-GTA6 (will literally be a masterpiece but wanna be contrarians and indie lovers will piss, cumb and shit their pants if say that for some reason-Bully
>>737890450Anon, every single day I wake up,I feel tightness in my chest. A single cup of coffee makes me feel like it'll kill me, but I still drink it cause I'm addicted. I know my time is limited. So FOMO is the first emotion I killed. Instead of worrying about the future games you won't be able to play, start working on your backlog instead. Tons of good games out there and you will never have enough time to play them all even with a healthy body.
>>737891019Sorry didnt see the term "current" Please ignore the last one
>>737890450when you're dead you won't even exist to remember worrying about this. so stop being a pussy and enjoy the few years you have on earth. after all it's all you have. what, you want to waste it? pussy, you would be literally spitting at the gift given to yourself. who cares about ideology and poison like that. the only true constant is life and death.
>>737890450Don't worry you'll reincarnate as the protagonist of the game you loved the most
>>737890987I hope religious fags get the void, and atheists and evil cunts see the afterlife. They get to live forever, and they will hate it.
>>737891783I'm fascinated by anti-natalist types who want oblivion, it flies in the face of terror management theory
>>737891230same, Every morning I tell myself I'll stop but then after work or on weekends I just don't give a fuck and I go all out with smoking coffee and alcohol while I play my vidya
>>737891596why is life so shit if it is a gift tho
>>737890450>iwishiconsoomedmoreinmydeathbed.jpg
>>737890450I'm not even afraid of the act of dying I think I'm more afraid of not existing anymore...all we've ever known is our existence. I remember turning everything off in the house and just laying down in silence as a little kid to see what being dead was like and honestly it just freaked me out. I guess knowing that it's inevitable kinda puts you at ease somewhat knowing that everything on this planet will eventually die and there is no way around it.
>>737892027People made it shit
>You get roughly 60-80 years of life>Will spend 1/3rd of that time sleepinguhmm, ok
>>737892150>first 16 years are shit>you then get 10 years that are actually somewhat enjoyable if you played your cards right>the next years are complete and utter dogshit and you will spend them coping in any way you cankek life's just a prank bro
>>737892150without any sleep at all you'd die in like a couple of weeks so I say it's a fair trade
I mean it will happen to all of us that enjoy life. Lets enjoy what we can and be happy, maybe there is an afterlife with vidya or maybe reincarnation happens and you get more time to enjoy new vidya. Dont make yourself miserable with things that cant be changed
>>737890450Get a son and suck his blood
My cope is that you don't know you're dead so why care
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>>737892120What else you are supposed to do desu
>>737892256>you then get 10 years that are actually somewhat enjoyable if you played your cards rightI have been a shut in neet since high school ended listening to my tinnitus and my parents screaming at each other and me every day I'm almost 30 years old
>>737892514create something yourself that you can leave behind for others you stupid cattle
>>737892617I feel you man
>>737892657Nah fuck the others, this world can go to hell
>>737892027It's a shit gift is what they won't tell you
>>737891219yep anyone could have died around like 2010 and not missed anything important
>>737890450Every pushup and every situation you do adds minutes to your life. Use your time between queues and games to get fit broskie.
>>737890450All the good games have already come out, don't worry about that.
>>737890450you are dead, it doesn't matter at that point. lol enjoy the games while you are alive and quit focusing on the future so much.
>>737892129It's crazy that we know for a fact that we're all gonna die and the sun is going to explode and engulf the earth, when in the past people lived their lives not knowing about that shit. We know too much
>>737890450so... realistically, what happens with our consciousness when we die?
>>737890987I am way more comfortable with the idea of reincarnation than my influence to the zeitgeist being my final tether to the world when my body dies, however in both situations I still need to release the identity I had to the world. My memories and consciousness will, at best, be transformed and taken from me, meaning the "me" will die. Even if I become another person, which protects my "soul", or my " life essence" scatters to other organisms as the nutrients of my decaying body would, the "me" would still be gone and replaced with new. This is the true meaning of "the circle of life" but I cannot fathom or cope with this, a world without me.
>>737892150Sleeping often feels great though. Buy a pleasurable mattress.
>>737891149Good point. Imagine what the average peasant Shakespeare fan of 1200 would say if they could see today's collection of movies and TV shows.
>>737893015I like to imagine consciousness as a reaction. Like a knot in between two ropes being pulled.Your consciousness isn't any of the ropes, but the specific tension formed at that knot while they are being pulled apart.Which means, be by the ropes being let go, or breaking, or the knot snapping, it will result on the tension releasing.This is to say, although the consciousness isn't something material, it is the result of material components acting on each other.So there's nothing to it. Once its gone, its gone. The ropes are still there, you may even tie them back in another knot, but the tension that there once was, wont come back.
I'm more afraid of living too long. i hope i have the balls to kill myself when I'm old before i become a shell and a burden
>>737893708Sometimes the value we bring transcends the physical. Elders are, after all, appreciated for their wisdom and experience.
>>737893015Panpsychism postulates that if consciousness is a property of matter, then consciousness should, like matter, be able to be broken down into smaller constituent parts.
>>737890450Just like how some game genres have died between the 80s to today, traditional gaming as we know it will die at some point in the not-so-distant future, replaced by some form of AI infused VR garbage. People growing up with it will want nothing else and using a "controller" will be considered boomer shit.Besides, with how dystopian every developed nation seems to be heading, living in an online AI empowered surveillance state surrounded by infinity brown people sounds like shit. I'd rather be dead than in some gulag for posting a meme. As for the afterlife, from my point of view, until we know how the universe began (not talking about the big bang, before), nothing is off the table.
>>737893015Look up The Monroe institute
>>737893840I'd agree if it wasn't for dementiaI don't want to end up like this or put this on anyone else
>>737894000I took a little psychic's quiz there once when I was a kid. Mom put legitimate stock into it, which makes me feel bad that she chooses to believe in the fantastic as hope for the future.
>>737893840Not today they ain't. Information isn't gatekept by braindead geriatrics anymore
>>737894059I understand what you mean. Mom raised me on a "if you treat your kids right they will treat you well when you grow old, its a relationship of taking turns" kind of vibe. After knowing my ex gf, I don't know how fair the world is enough to make that true though. Truthfully I think our ender population is getting to be WO big that a South Park Pandemic Special-esque mass senior care center is imminent, the nursing and at-home care industry is already massive where I live.
>>737894107Many many old people always wanted to share the info, its the youth that don't want to hear it (for whatever reasonable or less reasonable reasons)
>>737893015Not exactly answering your question but I fucking hate reductionism, the "love is just oxytocin" crowd, or people who think consciousness is just a glitch (Dennett). First of all, it's just not true, but mostly it strips human existence of any meaning. If everything is mechanical and hypothetically predictable (Laplace’s Demon), then human life loses all value. Murder would stop being an ontological crime and become mere bureaucracy, you didn't kill a life, you just broke a machine. So yeah, thankfully reductionists are wrong and life has value. Praise vidya I guess
I have a 60 year old guy at my job and he tells "Im not afraid to die" so often it becomes crystal clear that he is afraid to die
If you don't want to get older, then kill yourselfTo be alive is to grow older, every moment you are alive you are getting olderIf you don't want to get old, then die otherwise stop agonizing over the most fundamental concept of fucking reality and get a fucking grip, you stupid nigger frogposter
Isn't it strange how we're all ourselves? Like you could have been anyone, but you're you. You're not the guy at the shop, or the girl on TV. Everyone has their own consciousness that nobody else will ever have or experience. But how are you YOU? How was that decided? Was there a chance that you could have awakened as someone else instead?It sucks that I'm going to die someday and miss out on seeing the future. I want to know what happens, see how advanced we become, see how things change, how it ends. Do we make it off Earth before the Sun blows up? Do we become a spacefaring super civilization with time travel, dyson spheres, sci-fi tech etc.?
>>737894656My personal fear of death is like a horseshoe theory that I keep hopping around
>>737894656I'm not afraid that you're gay
>>737892415Why did they have to be half naked for this?
>>737894734Wouldn't it be nice if some heavenly collective or nirvana were the true end experience for the soul? Like our consciousness is a fragment of the whole, and the unity of returning to that collective is what the ultimate finale of the self is?
>you won't even be aware of thatis such a horrible cope, it just fills me with terror how is that supposed to make me feel better i like being aware of stuff i can't imagine anything else
>>737890450Best not to think about it, but I do sometimes wonder how I’d spend my last months/years if/when I receive a life-ending diagnosis.
>>737894816No, sounds awful. Wouldn't you lose your individuality? I'm not sure that I comprehend what a collective is, wdym anon?
>>737891019Ocarina of Time
>>737890450>I won't get to experience soulless remake #56345638 what ever wil I dooooo ;-;
>>737894824Without your brain how would you remember and compare? How would you even feel?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAVTmIyA2L4
>>737894734I'm not one of those "What's the point in the world existing if I can't be in it" types but a part of me kind of hopes that civilization collapses sometime this century. The idea that maybe 200-400 years from now, people will be able to extend their life and possibly even obtain biological immortality and look back at our time in the same way we view the bronze age upsets me on so many levels.
>>7378949904/10 at best
>>737890450I don't want to die either anon, but I sincerely doubt not playing enough games will be even close to my top 20 regrets when I finally croak itIf anything, the opposite.
>>737892861They would, but none of these mainstream games. Plenty of actual gems released during that time.
>>737894824>Go to an empty parking lot in the middle of night and winter>Lie down on the ground and just stay there, doing nothing>You're alive, so you get to get up and go on with your life>If you were dead, you'd have to stay there, in the silence and darkness, experiencing nothing>But you're not aware of it, so it's okayNah, I think just knowing that you're going to have to permanently go to the parking lot and never come back is disquieting enough itself.
>>737895003Knowing the terror will end one day does not make me feel better, i would rather feel this terror for all eternity.
if i died today i genuinely would not give a fuck
>>737890450I hope you die today, little bitch
>>737895158Close one of your eyes and try to look through it, that's what oblivion looks like
>>737894945>would you lose your individualalityYes, but you would still retain yourself. Let's say your name is Mike. When Mike returns to the collective, he is no longer Mike, he is the collective. Mike still exists within the collective, however. The collective doesn't view itself JUST as Mike though, the collective is many things, and Mike included. Mike has been perfectly interwoven into the collective, a single hard drive in the server rack that is heaven, enlightenment, God, nature, whatever you'd like to call it. Have you ever seen any anime or game with characters fusing? How they have all the skills, memories, and thoughts of the individuals but never see their current identity outside the fusion? It's like that but on a massive scale.
>>737895009It could be closer than you think, honestly. Have you heard about that unprofitable cancer cure that clones your DNA?
>>737890450Don't worry, when you die you just get stripped of all your memories and personality and then you're born again as an entirely different person!
>>737895009>he thinks he would even have access to itlmaoit'll be exclusively for jews on their Mars colony while Earth is treated like a hive planet from WH40k
>>737890450death is a myth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_suicide_and_immortalitycalm down little bro
/x/ thread on da Vidya board
>>737894774You are also not afraid of being ESL, apparently.
>>737890450how the fuck do you not thank God every day for death
living is a lot scarier than dying
>>737895516Because I ask and ask, and He refuses to listen. He does give everything else, but not sweet release. I am tired.
>>737890450Seek God. The reddit atheists on /v/ don’t want to hear it, but that is the only true way to find lasting peace and contentment. Wisdom is an illusion. Knowledge is a snare. But through seeking God, you will find both in the lack. It is silent, still, and empty. And it will fill you up.Good luck my friend
I don't have to worry about death because I'm the most important person in the universe, I'm going to live forever. If I die, the universe has no reason to keep on existing without me, so the universe will always keep me alive.
>>737890450I do not fear death.I will be with my anime harem in the afterlife.
God isn't real, just end yourself and that's it, it shouldn't be scary
>>737895718Fear can't kill you... but
>>737895640This but me instead
>>737895718Remember, this is what Jews want you to believe.
If death didn't exist, we wouldn't feel the urgency to fulfill ourselves. Imagine living forever, the human brain doesn't have enough storage capacity to hold it all. Imo, if we cure diseases like cancer and extend life expectancy to 10,000 years, that would be ideal, but I wouldn't completely eliminate death, in my humble opinion.
Real question do you guys actually belive reversing age is something real or is all bs?
>>737895718>God exists!>No! God doesn't exists!Who cares about God. I don't care if it exists or not. I only care about the life i can live.
>He doesn't wish he was dead most of the time What the fuck is this? Amateur hour? Live more years and suffer more.
>>737895718I had miracles happen to me, saw heaven and hell. You are small time buddy. Now scream "meds schizo".
>>737896007it should be possible. its just biology, not magic
>>737894665>t.tough love wanna be big shit faggot
>>737896007They already know how. They simply don't release the method because they want rich joos to be the only ones able to do it, and live forever while they enslave everybody else. It will be like the movie "In time".
>>737891019If you haven't play the Fumito Ueda trilogy you simply missed out on life.
>>737894559life has value because humans live in this ecosystem between death and life. all of our things we do in life only exist here. even knowledge only really matters for the living. if you kill a person you are killing a part of the human world. morality in my opinion only exists in the human world. take for example your life. expand it further and you have the place where you live. we humans just create a world of thinking (ideology morality virtue knowledge) to connect ourselves more deeply with the world. the world is extremely cold; it is nothing but forces like physics acting. but then morality is nothing but a human creation? it would be stupid to call human creations meaningless and the world meaningless, as you cannot not partake in it. then i feel morality's true purpose has the deeper meaning of upholding the human world in the logical sense (the mans world) and the physical sense(the mans connection with the world)>>737895158it's not like that, there wouldnt be a park at all. you wouldnt feel anything because there is no you. you would become just plain dead matter; like stone>>737895620god is a manifestation of mankind. there is no true god, fighting over the meaning of the true god is heresy itself. it is a creation of the human world that by extension, due to our inability to understand the true world fully, becomes a pancreator. either that is by design or just the pure chance>>737895718ending the gift of life because youre sad at your current condition is meaningless. suicidals are slaves to the world
>>737896080where is my miracle? when is it my turn jesus?
>>737896080Why is God always showing people hell? Seems pretty sadistic to me.
>>737896154jokes on them I get to die and escape
>>737890450>>737890856i'm making my life a hell on purpose just so i can avoid feeling anything glad about life. if i feel anything i think i would be so petrified of dying that i wouldn't be able to handle it.
whats happens if you upload your brain into a computer? would you wake in a computer? or the computer would make a copy of you and wake up in a normal bed?
Video games?
>>737894824How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
>>737896007Hard to say whether it will be possible at some point or not, but for sure not in our lifetimes. The average lifespan isn't even 100 right now and I doubt it'll even reach 120 before most of the posters in this thread have died.
>>737896275until they figure out how to work the brain and how consciousness works in relation to the brain,there is no point in discussing this.
>>737896275You can't upload your consciousness to a computer. Grow up.
VIDEO GAMES!?
we're all beating around the bush but let's be honest. we all wish hitler had won. honestly i'm not even antisemetic or racist myself, but it's just so obvious that the world would've been so amazing if he had won. what's the alternative? anything else would still lead to our current hellish reality. i'd like to at least give it a try.. oh well. time to replay wind waker.
Death doesn't scare me as much as the process of dying that will be probably really painfull.
>>737891859It's cope to reinforce their belief that "nothing matters bro", it's easier to reassure oneself that there is nothing but the void so you feel content about doing nothing in your life. I've yet to meet a normie/succesful person who believes such things.
>>737896427I think the world would still be shit, just in different ways. Would the world be as shit as it is currently? Maybe not.
>>737890856Ah... so my goal should be to become unhappy!
>>737896448Not if you're a big guy
>>737896502at the very least i think it would be a more dignified world even if was still shit.
>>737896427hitler was an idiot too, lets not kid ourselves.it would just be the same thing under a different brand of thing. like coke vs pepsi
>>737896464I have one question for nihilists: if nothing matters, why don't you just destroy everything? I bet they’re the first ones to start seething the moment they get a parking ticket
>>737896427How can you ever say this knowing full well that the nazi state would have had your mentally ill autistic ass culled?The tthird reich would not have tolerated autistics to exist aside from either slave labor or lab test cattle.You're fucking dumb.
>>737890450Don't worry. All the best games were released in 80's and 90's. In the trillions of years to come no one will make better games than that.
>>737890450I yearn for death daily. Life is so boring and achieving a new high just makes the mids all seem lower.
The universe just ends when (You) die anyways.
>>737896630/threadAi slop killed art forever so it's ok
who says there wont be vidya in heaven?
For such a trad larper right-wing website, there sure are a lot of GODLESS opinions ITT.
>>737893008Our sun won't explode, but it's going to grow big enough to engulf Earth. Of course, by the time that happens, the surface of the planet will have long since stopped being fit to sustain life as we know it.
>>737896624oh well. thats fine.
>>737896702Bold of (You) to assume you're going to heaven. All it takes is ONE unrepented sin to keep you out for eternity.
>>737896702Post 10 games other than religious games that doesn't have you committing one or multiple sins, buddy.
>>737890450
humanity will never achieve enlightenment and will continue to be slaves to condition and nature until the world explodes or god himself descends and whips our asses into shape. fucking nigger species that think it's superior to everything currently present while practicing the same wrongs like it's fucking genetic. just be glad youre alive and stop worrying about random bullshit built by people who hate the world
>>737895145I think he puts in that way so the thread wont be 404’d. I saw a thread with a similar topic being btfo not long ago
>>737895172Same. Even as a child I always thought the brimstone depiction of being tortured in hell forever sounded better than just not existing.
Everyone dies so it can't be that bad.
>>737891019Snatcher and it's not even close
>>737896613"Destroying everything" takes effort, effort is bad mmmkay. If I was a nihilist, I'd sell everything I have and travel the world but I wouldn't use it as an excuse to lay on a couch and overindulge on fastfood, porn and vidya. That's pure cattle behavior
>>737896613>if nothing matters, why don't you just destroy everything?Because it wouldn't matter.
Cant relate. Pretty much the only positive thought I have is that one day I will die and don't have to deal with shitty thoughts of regret anymore
>>737890450Perhaps we all live on in each other, and if so we don't truly disappear, we're part of a web of life.
>>737895009It's never happening, there's just not enough tangible science to understand the continuity of consciousness. The best they will get is the cope of creating copies of perfect artificial copies of their consciousness. But it wont actually be the continuation of their own.
>>737890450most artistic mediums peak early, if you lived through the 90's to the 00's you experienced the best the world had to offer and everything since then is the same or worse but with 4k textures.
>>737892415Ok there Dio
>>737896427>>737896502It would be even worse. When someone divides the human race into Us and Them, sets out to get rid of all of Them and actually succeeds, they don't just stop there. They draw a new like between Us and Them and go back to what they were doing before, because people like that need an enemy to hate to get out of bed in the morning. Eventually, Us vs. Them becomes Me vs. Them. In fascism, there is only one real fascist, because everyone else becomes their enemy sooner or later.
>>737896958This.
I feel like people who tend to say that "why bother, nothing matters, no one remembers us when we die" have a problem realizing and taking solace in knowing that even if something is forgotten in time, it still happened
>>737896845It’s heightened absurdity to claim you’re comforted. T the idea of nothingness, because no living thing can remotely conceptualize the idea of nothingness. Everything that is, was, and shall be, is dependent on somethingness. Even the idea of nothingness comes from a being surrounded by somethingness. The most ironic thing is that it is equally foolish to claim you know existence ceases into annihilation upon death, as it is to claim you know heaven and hell exist. It’s just a phrase reddit atheists use to absolve themselves of responsibility. Nothingness is dogma for atheists.
>>737897145*draw a new line
>>737896795Pretty much any game where you're the "lawful good" hero?
>>737892027Skill issue. I am being unironic here, even Columbian cartel members enjoy life somewhat, so you can too
>>737891719>tfw I love NTR games
>>737896275You immediately get enslaved by glowniggers and forced to generate fetish AI slop.
>>737896651>when (You) diehahahhahahahhahahaha
>>737896007Yes but I bet it's going to be inmoral like some extract from baby blood or organs or something.
My dad was buried with his copy of Star Fox 64He really liked Brutal Legend too
>>737892256kek
You're all going to fucking Hell when you die and you know it.
>>737897078Anon, people only say this because they are retro now (especially the 90s) there were tons of people back then saying hwo shit the world was and how they wished they lives in the 50s/60s. You might not belive, but even if this decade is full of disgrace, there will be tons of people nostalgic for it. Especially those who didnt experiences it
>>737896275Hypothetically if you could it would be like cloning yourself, but the clone has its own consciousness. It may think and behave just like you but you will not be in control of it, and it will begin to experience life the moment it is born, which is the beginning of the difference between you and its experience. In the grand scheme of the world, conceptually it is not very different than a child, however the difference corporeally is that the computer will never grow up to be a self sufficient human who can carry on the human legacy's torch.
>>737897173I think that's why what we do with our time matters, but we are inconsequential as individuals in the big picture so is good to not take ourselves so seriously.
>>737892256That's a very subjective take
>>737896275SOMA
>>737897364It's not a bad estimation for the average person in the western world. The third world is even worse
>>737897323they didnt have videogames or computers in the 50's and 60's, they had car culture and music.which would be apt because cars and music peaked in the 50's and 60's too.
>>737897320So will you lol. What makes you think you will esccape ?
>>737890987There is no void bro, its just nullIts like arya says in game of thrones, nothing isnt dark, its not a void, nothing is just nothingI dont remember shit from before i was born and so itll be when you die>>737890450Anyway OP just relax man, have some nice food, play vidya, stop caring about dumb politics, avoid anything that triggers your fear of morality and/or hypochondryism (is that how you spell it?) unsubscribe from all hateful rheotorics, maybe start a family if you think that itll bring you fulfillment in your older yearsIm just chillan on that neet life, learning japanese, helping people make their dream games, working on various n64 decompilations, trying to work out every dayLifes good when its simple
>>737897432Some have a better childhood than adulthood. Some had a horrible childhood and adulthood is their freedom into living how they wish.
>>737897206heros still kill thousands of minions to reach the bad guy. next.>THEY DON'T COUNT BECAUSE THEY ARE BAD!!! OK!!5th amendment buddy?
>>737897364Yeah, ten decent years is an overestimation for most people.
If you build a time machine and use it to suck your own dick. Doesn't matter the direction, you simultaneously suck and get sucked either way. Is that gay or just maturation? If you swallow, does that change your answer?
>>737893402>sleeping I haven't had any decent nights sleep in at least two decades m8,just recently started seeing weird shapes like tiny blue dark spheres if I close my eyes & small squiggly lines floating outside at first thought they were bugs on the windshield but then the things are just up in the air?
>>737896007Not in my lifetime, I'm not that lucky.
>>737897323>remember when we had computers and cars and running water and grocery stores?>omg shup up with your early 2000s nostalgia, you oldfag alphoomer
>>737897320Some of us pray and do good, and don't just sit in 4chan posting "kill yourself" or stealing stuff from other people like you, and being selfish. sorry for your loss, evil cunt.
>>737897459Didn't say I wouldn't, did I?
>>737897521Let me answer your question with a question, if you had the physical ability, would you suck your own penis right now and treat it as an advanced form of masturbation?
>>737897554lol america doesn't have running water? arent you niggas worth 20 trillion in gpt per capita or something?
>trannyfrog
>>737897568Won't save you. ONE SINGLE TINY UNREPENTED SIN is enough to see you damned for ALL ETERNITY.
Statistically you'll likely either die instantly through an accident or die a slow delirious death in a hospital where you won't even have he mental capacity to understand death anymore.
>>737897684apustula is 4chan pepe is reddit
>>737894824If it makes you feel better they are accounts of people being "summoned" back from the dead as spirits/wraiths in the Bible they weren't exactly happy about being brought back though
>>737897460>just relax manThis but unironically. Also death comes for everyone, it's the one unifying factor to our existence other than life itself. It happens to everyone so who cares? I find works of fiction that have themes of/around death super boring for that reason, it's like lmao ok man I'm sure (You)r experience will be the unique one in all of human history on this universal topic.
>>737893008And everyone back then had some believe in the afterlife to reassure them because there wasn't any strong evidence to suggest the afterlife or souls couldn't exist
>>737897320If you believe in god/heaven/hell then I'm sorry but you wasted your life. You aren't praying, you're just whispering to yourself alone in your room. How embarrassing for our entire species. The grandest of embarrassments if you will.
>>737897684Board culture. Leave.
>>737897487Killing enemy combatants in an armed conflict is not a sin. Especially if those enemies are objectively evil.
>>737897554>running waterGood morning!
>>737897779>He doesn't know GodYeah, you're wrong, lol.
>>737890450>frogposterDie as soon as you can.
>>737897532I have always had those since I was a child. They used to scare me, but they ate benign, I think it has to do with how my eyes strain because tightening my eyelid muscles will make them worse.I also became a fat fuck over the last decade and was diagnosed with sleep apnew from that and some nasal pollups that have matured. I hate hate gate wearing a cpap machine and have never felt closer to death, however sleeping with it on stops me from waking up every 20min-2hours and sleep actually feels good again. If any of this sounds relevant to you, maybe better quality sleep will help.
>>737897717I ask for forgiveness of all the tins, actually. IT is easy when you actually believe in it. Besides, He did say just believing was enough, check your Bible.
>>737897460You can’t claim to know what nothing is aim any capacity because everything that you are, every concept in your mind, every idea and dream, every approximation is from something. You only pretend to believe in nothingness after death (ironically, nothingness that is entirely dependent on an idea of somethingness) because you fear having to answer for yourself.
>>737897830They dont want you to know about sitting water dood
>>737897779If you believe yourself to a soulless biorobot, then you never had a life to waste because you are nothing.
>>737897868No forgiveness without repentance.
>>737890450Like a hundred billion people have already died and not a single one has changed their minds or given a bad review. Chill out fampai.
>>737897779/r/eddit
>>737897851>someone posts a picture about something>this flips a switch on someone else's head and makes him wish death to the poster and sorrow for the poster's family and friendsThat's some mkultra shit right there
>>737897796It says "you shall not kill" not "you shall not kill under these conditions".
WHAT A SHIT THREAD
>>737891019Rain World which is fitting for the topic.
>>737897921HE always said the door was so tiny nobody would get in unless He allowed you to. And I saw the door open. Nobody can close it, not even Satan himself.Stop making excuses and work on your sins, buddy. But you won't because you are evil, and evil you will die. have fun.
>Humanity spent 99% of it's existence in the stone agewild to think about
>>737898037Neat. No forgiveness without repentance tho.
>>737898050This perspective is inconclusive until we see humanity's timeline to completion. Granted, we have evidence of other societies that have collapsed and we built out world from the ashes.
>brown ppl commenting on NS statecraft lol, anyways I think good virtuous people will get a chance at reincarnation or new beginnings, jews and others like them will be damned to the void due to their emptiness. Keep your chin up, anon. I highly recommend spending time in nature if you can.
>>737896245Look into buddhism, my friend.
>I only trust the science!>Uhh n-no, not this one
>>737897779God it's embarrassing seeing aredditheists trying to shit on religion while not understanding it at all.
>>737898094>Uh you don't repent because i say soWork on your evil bait.
>>737897963It actually says you shall not murder
>>737897845No god. Know peace. As they say.Before you say it though make sure to check your gigantic rule book to see if it's allowed. LMAO
>>737890450>I dont wanna dieLucky for you, the possibility for you to die simply does not exist. If it did, neither you or anybody else could be here.
Reminder to take care of yourself a little bit some time and enjoy all the free time you have.
>>737898210Ok you got me, now my argument is invalid. You win. bye.
>>737898221>le heckin empty dust in the wind my fellow redditors!These limpdick clowns can’t help but be what they are, cringe virgins LMAO
>>737898126I just think it's funny because "caveman times" is always depicted as a joke in modern media, but that's what we were basically like for an absurdly long time of our history.
How ironic is it that atheists will be the loudest voices crying out for God when faced with the eternal finality of death at the moment of their final breath?
>>737897921>>737898037>>737898094You are talking past each other. We are sinners, being sinners is intrinsic to humanity. To achieve forgiveness, yes one needs to repent, though the specifics on that aren't defined, but God still accepts us and our faith as we are even if we have yet to repent or ask for forgiveness. Believing in the father and son is like the only requirement for everlasting peace (on paper, personally I think the father is accepted by other names in many other cultures or customs, and I strongly suspect the father has given those people a mythos of their own definition and they will also receive everlasting peace for their belief)
>>737890450Oh, you finally encountered fear of death?You will have to find your way through it yourself.-thrzk
>>737897917Life is about experiences. Your experience was waking up early on Sunday to listen to some pedo drone on about nothing. Your experience was fitting every single thought you had into the fixture of some made up fantasy narrative. Oh you got promoted? I'm sure that was just the spaghetti man cheering you on!
>>737898293Never fails, cringe lords are base creatures
>>737898208Anon, if you've ever jerked it to lolicon you're going STRAIGHT to hell.
>>737898225t. the inductive turkey
>>737890450if the universe and time are infinite there is a chance that after an unimaginable gorillion of aeons your atoms will rearrange themselves into the exact same order they are in right now and everything would be reconstructed exactly as it was and you will play vidya again
>>737898330Atheists in charge of not sounding unhinged.
>>737898206Tell me again how Harry defeated the evil lord Voldemort with love magic. Oh wait that was a different book? What fantasy character did you relate to again?
>>737898305That's what I don't get. If just believing saves you, why some parts of the bible claim that "they would have believed in vain". Isn't that a contradiction?
>>737898291What movie or game was It that described the stone age as "a while lot of nothing"? To be fair, inventing intended uses for fire and creating agriculture systems is far from nothing, but politically, recorded scholarly and historically it's void of those categories.So yes, I do agree with the humor in your observation
>>737897868>sola fideNice heresy there, protty.
>>737897235I guess their victims and families were enjoying life too?
>>737897890Heh, listen man you arent gonna win on matters of existence and theology with a CHILL CHAD such as myself so dont even bother with your played-out rhetoric.>You can’t claim to know what nothing is aim any capacityIf i were to spin the chessboard around i could say the same of you, you yourself know nothing, its a DEVILS PROOF, it cant be proven or disprovenTherefore both of us are CORRECT until proven otherwise! I refuse to elaborate>every concept in your mind, every idea and dream, every approximation is from somethingYes, the something in question is some genetic sperm pack from my dad which went into my moms egg to create the EPIC and CHILL man thats me, thanks dad and mom, you guys are the greatest>You only pretend to believe in nothingness after death [...] because you fear having to answer for yourselfThats a lot of projection! Im not afraid, nor am I pretending. Im just being LOGICAL. The moment you speak for another persons mind as if you know yourself, youve lost and implicitly admit you only have a basis in emotion>ironically, nothingness that is entirely dependent on an idea of somethingnessYou would have me believe that this conversation, yourself, me, this world, its NOT something?I believe everyone has the world to change the world and choose for themselves what they believe in!My truth is my truth and your truth is yoursBut dont you dare call this something that i know nothing, or claim that everything is null because you believe in a delusional and wrote binary!Lets face it - youre just a level 1 nervous cuck, and a level 999999 CHILL CHADMy levels of existential relaxation are SECOND TO NONEREFUTE THIS IF YOU CAN, AAAAANOOOOOONNNNNNNN!!!
>>737895867Jews want you alive to wagecuck faggot
>>737898273>>737898393Double kill. Both got BTFO. Cry more pussies. Or better yet pray for forgiveness or whatever the hell you get up to.
>>737897684>>737897851Why do you react like this to a cute drawing of a little frog?
>>737898463Then forgiveness is given by a priest, christian cuck? btw, I am no longer catholic, christian or protestant. Cope as you must.
Atheism is not a religion but I will act like the most zealous preacher about it.
>>737898291It’s also offensive, we’ve lost 295k years of human culture, myths, and legends because writing didn't exist, but the human brain has always remained the same. They were just as intelligent as we are, who knows how many "philosophers" or storytellers we have lost.
>>737898514Based stoner
>>737898432I genuinely think the Bible is written and translated by man, and not every single word of it that we have read is 100% accurate. It could also be that times have changed, Christians eat pork despite that being unallowed in the old testament. Keep in mind, we say there is a reason we could handle pork back then differently to now, and ij the written text God reacts and has different expectations for his people over the years, so perhaps we are living in biblically undocumented times and the Lord's just updated his rules? All of this argumentation is arbitrary and no more based on anything than anyone else's words, so I do not expect this to be an agreeable stance unless you specifically choose to believe in the convinience of my worldview.
>>737898293God can eat my dick. If he is real I would spit right in his face for being a little beta cuck bitch. Ohhh cheer for me and praise me or else I'll get sad. Fuck that shit. What an insecure pussy. If youre going to make up some goon to worship at least make him a Chad.
>>737898417
>>737898514T-this power...!It's too much...!The kino... it's overflowing!!
>>737896007Not for usI think there is something like it already, because Soros somehow keeps on living
>>737898695>Christians eat pork despite that being unallowed in the old testament.And just like that, you lost all credibility. Unashamed, clueless retard
>>737898731Believing in God is different than the tone you have. One could agnostically acknowledge >I don't see evidence of a God, but if one does exist I do not wish to challenge or offend them.You however have taken it a step further and preemptively chosen to be antagonistic. How come? I don't mean to type cast, but this kind of mindset I see often comes from those who have had issues with authority in the past, like me but a little more extreme. Do you think there's some merit to that? Granted, it doesn't invalidate your stance if it were true or not.
>>737892150>waste 20 years on random neuron babble instead of lucid dreamingpathetic
>>737898514(ur wrong) but funny post anyway
>>737898750Here are some of my favorite Bible verses!• "The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death." (Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, pg. 328)• "It is our choices, Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." (Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, Ch. 17, pg. 245)• "It’s the unknown we fear when we look upon death and darkness, nothing more." (Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, Ch. 18, pg. 398)• "You will also find that help will always be given at Hogwarts to those who ask for it." (Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, Ch. 12, pg. 234This is what you retards look like.
>>737898628They may even have had writing and stuff, but since they were one of many small segregated tribes, the relics would most likely have been destroyed over the 10s of thousands of years.
>>737898924The version of God you've created is a little bitch and I would respect him if he was real and as you describe. He's an insecure pussy that created a bunch of cheerleaders and punishes them if they're misinformed about his cryptic nonsense? I'm sorry anon but that's just a shitty story you made. I didn't like reading it and thought it was dumb. I could do better.
>>737898864Shit, how am I mistaken?
>>737898514t. wall of cope from an athiest
>>737898628anon, for most of human history demonic possession was a real medical diagnoses. dont compare me to those monkeys.
>>737898963>this postThis is what you retards look like
>>737899143Insecure because he wanted his creations to treat him as the Lord? Or what he asks of his flock?
And quickly the thread turns into bait. I am out of here.
>>737899143>I have created a version of God that I hate therefore everyone else is stupid!You have to be 18+ to post here
>>737898628At least Far Cry gave us a really good exception
>>737899245Damn you got fucking got dude. Time to close the tab.
>>737894559I've never heard a single reductionist argue that life doesn't have value, that argument nearly always comes from the opposing viewpoint. You can accept that we are ultimately collections of chemicals which are made up of atoms which appear to be just superpositional events on some sort of nth-dimensional quantum probability matrix and that is a separate question to whether or not the human experience is meaningful. It's meaningful because we experience meaning, that's it. The gravity of love, the appreciation of art, the beauty of nature, are all things which have intrinsic meaning to us from our human perspective whether science can explain this experience or not. And science doesn't yet have a thorough explanation of consciousness so it's more a question for philosophy at this point.
>>737898731That's pretty empowering from someone who propably stutters when a woman talks to them and feels uncomfortbale watching people in the eye
>>737899209>for most of human historyProof next thread?
>>737892256>>first 16 years are shitSorry anon, despite some minor traumas U had a lovely childhood and life felt so good the first 18 years. At 18 and till I was 24 or so, the blissfulness of the child mind fade away but it was still my peak cause I was fit, popular, inteligent, etc. Im 33 now and I have nothing, its all meaningless, I still try to be decent and be good to others, but theres nothing I look forward to, Im just alive cause I know I would break my mothers heart otherwise
Pascal's Wager was right in a way, he was too eager to make it pro-Christianity rather than the more logical anti-materialism.Thing is, it's possible that the most nihilistic atheist views are correct. But even if it happens to be right, there is absolutely no point believing in it.Because if you reduce humanity to a clump of cells, you fundamentally deny the importance of truth and beliefs to begin with.Believe anything else.
>>737899310Yeah exactly. Thats little bitch behavior right there. I see why you like him so much he sounds fucking autistic. Probably not a coincidence though, heh.
>frogfag posts the gayest thread i've seen all week
>>737899209culture=/=intelligence
>>737899403Your shitty ass mother is the one who cause all your sufferingGet over yourself, pathetic worm
>>737899369This is /v/ buddy not your notes app
>>737892897>adds timeLol, thats bushit. More like not doing that/having bad habits shortens your life, but you cant make it any longer
>>737890450I thank God every day for not making me some gay, weak, goon loving fagboy.
>>737899490I think the idea is that it will make time feel slower? The more you break up your repetitive routine and input new information, the slower everything feels
>>737899383Ignaz Semmelweis observed in 1847 that handwashing dramatically reduced childbed fever deaths, implying invisible agents caused diseaseModern Homo sapiens appeared roughly 300,000 years agohumans lived without any concept of germs for approximately 299,700–300,000 years attributing disease to demons or divine punishment.
>>737893015It fades away, at the last time you might realize you are just a bunch of things glued together by the miracle of biology qhich gives you a sense of unity and agency, but at the end it dissolves. Even the most midwit take like the abrahamic ones knows we are an aggregate (ex: body and soul), so even if theres life after death, its not "you" as you are now, but a part of you that, in that sense, its already something else
>>737890450>Lots of games will still be being released each year>, but I wont be here to play it. And among this games, one will be an all time masterpiece. Lol, no.
>>737893840It used to be back in the old days. Now the "elders" are shitheads like Biden or Trump
>>737895009Its no good either way. Assuming everyone on earth becomes immortal, even disregarding the fact that there wouldn't be resources for everyone, people would be killed/maimed way more casually, eventually becoming more desensitized to it. There's also the possibility we reach immortality but still feel pain and don't yet have whats necessary to numb it without making the whole body go limp. I really do think some poor fucker in 2544 is going to get the Unit 731 treatment over and over again just because a psycho got his hands on him. But that's just me coping.
>>737899618For all we know it could have been discovered dozens of times and lost to history.
>>737899414Pascal has nothing to do with nihilism and who “chooses” their beliefs? Could you choose to believe something you know is wrong?
>>737899627It's so fascinating to see so many people make up this fantasy. When you die you are dead. That's it. I know it's hard to grasp that something as complex as an entire person can just cease to exist, but that's the way it is. Thousands of years of coping and pretending does not change that. It's time for humanity to grow tf up.
>>737890450don't worry. the afterlife is like doom. except you don't have any weapons and equipments, kek
>>737890450>i wish i had more times to play videogames...>*beeeeeep*
>>737899761Not a single person alive knows anything about metaphysics for sure. Of course atheists will claim that they "know", but they're bullshitting.
>>737899850dumb evil frogposter!
>>737899830The things the did and experienced still happened, those things dont stop existing
>>737899941Here today. Gone tomorrow. Yep.
>>737899830>biology tells us we are millions of different cells glued together, as in the Ship of Theseus paradox>pretty much every religion points to a similar conclusion even on spiritual/metaphysical terms>AI-tier random on 4chan: lol its all fantasy broHope you get raped
>>737899830>"conciousness fades away when we die">THATS NOT TRU, ONCE YOU DIE ITS ALL OVERHoly retardation, jesus fuck
>>737899863>i wish i worked harder at the goy factory for mr. shekelstien... *beeeeeep*>i wish i spent more time lusting after holes and having sex... *beeeeeep*>i wish i spent more of my live raising ingrateful kids who hate me... *beeeeeep*
>>737900045Why do you think some books written by ancient people who didn't know the sun was a star are worth anything at all? Oh right you framed your entire ideology around blind faith, right. Good one.
>>737900105What do you think is hosting the consciousness anon? Some big brain in the "cloud"? Lmao Jesus fucking christ.
People that think they are above anyone else in regard of things we cant simply know anything about are almost as bad as fanatics
>>737896275There are some schools of thought which treat consciousness as serial rather than continuous, i.e. individual momentary instances imbued with the memories of previous instances. Some philosophers like Derek Parfit entertained such ideas, as do certain Buddhist traditions. Under such a system, the cloned "you" would be indistinguishable, and would have the exact same internal experience as you right now, and would have exactly the same claim to being you, since you don't really have the continuous conscious experience you feel like you have, you simply have the "me right now and memories of before" in any given moment.
>>737890450You should kill yourself and don't post off topic bullshit frognigger
>>737890450death is a meme your soul is eternal.
>>737900187You are not smarter than ancient people just because you were told more things. You just have a different frame of reference. You would not have discovered heliocentrism on your own without being schooled about it first.Copernicus was a faithful catholic by the way.
>>737900045And where in those cells are you, exactly? Biology can tell you you are composed of water and carbon but that doesn't explain why the lights are on. Retreating into theology doesn't explain consciousness you're just pushing the problem further down into the realm of religion which is entirely self serving.
>>737900257Exactly. We should abolish religion and make it illegal. Allowing the cults to harp on people's deepest desires and fantasies is and always will be problematic.
>>737900187>why you think orientation systems and frameworks have any value when we have science?Im sure you have a PhD in every area of knowledge and at the same time you are devoid of any type of ideology, you are sooooo smart and proving your point on 4chan makes you better than the other 8 billion Homo sapiens in the world
Just please, I don't want to reincarnate.If I can't handle getting the 12% chance to be born into a first world country, how the fuck would I manage being born into some shithole.I complain a lot about the state of the world, I know I could've had a better life had I been born a few decades ago, but it could be a whole hell of a lot worse
>>737900165demoralized cucki hope your are brown
>>737900351Right but its easy to make up shit like "we were made in gods image" when you dont realized theres more stars hosting dozens of planets than there are grains of sand. That's all. New information requires us to revisit old axioms. Its elementary science bud
>>737899830>I know it's hard to grasp that something as complex as an entire person can just cease to existDo you? I mean we recognise it's a large thing to swallow, but do either of us truly comprehend the severity of how divorced the concept of death and postmortem are for the experience of the individual going through it?
being dead is cool because you turn into a skeleton O_O and you can drop bones on death as loot for adventurers
>>737900462What of you don't have air conditioning or internet but the simpler life makes living it easier and happier?
>>737900462I hope you are born indian. stupid whiteoid.
>>737900458I'm sorry I shook up the lie you've been whispering to yourself for some 30 years. It's okay. No need to get angry.
>>737900409>emperor of mankind
>>737900241What cloud? Why are you so dense? Jesus fucking Christ. Let me explain it in trrms you can understand:>biological body hosts a conciousness as an emergent property of phisiology>when the organism dies, so does the conciousness
>>737900512Sure. And I do not believe death is a binary thing. I'm sure we've buried plenty of people "alive" in an effort to hastily send them up to God's big pasture.
>>737900553It WAS your skeleton, you left it. It's just a skeleton now.
>>737900374The point is no one has an objective answer cause objectivity goes beyond our possibilites. Beliefs are fantasy if you will, but thinking you are "right" because "everyone else is wrong" is one of the most retarded takes ever
>>737900045>>pretty much every religion points to a similar conclusion even on spiritual/metaphysical termsBecause the human mind likes those kinds of cope the best, and religions that pander to it are more likely to survive, rather than fissel out and become forgotten.
>>737900603We agree then. Whatever shit you're saying about life after death is just fantasy.
It's a sad state of affairs when even chatgpt has better takes on spirituality than 4chan.
>>737900586I take it you have an issue with anti-trust laws etc.? Or am I talking to a literal child right now?
>>737900603I would disagree with the first point, consciousness is not an emergent factor of physiology considering there are lots of biological creatures on earth from which consciousness does not emerge, you came to that conclusion backwards, that biology leads to consciousness which empirically isnt true or necessary.Your 2nd point is correct though.
>>737900845>he doesnt knowstop talking to yourself. i dont give a shit about your stupid argument
>>737900579Ah, so you are not a genius, you are omniscient, you can read my mind since never even said what you are claiming. What an interesting... er... "person"...
if you could force all of /v/ to play 1 game what would it be
>>737900841That's because every retard here is just shitposting to get replies. Chatgpt has no concept of what a "baiting" is.
>>737900774Life after death as a belief isnt "worse" or "better" than believing theres nothing after it, cause finite beings cant have any objective take beyond relative terms, thats the point. Any claim of "knowing the truth" eitherway its retarded
Religion is from a time before government. It was a way for cultures to share "rules" with one another. E.g. don't do incest or the babies come out deformed.It will always be that: a left over archetype from an ancient time. There is no future where we are flying between the stars and praying to god.This is the way trend is going. This is what's obvious to every single person who was not raised to be in a cult.Get over yourselves and accept it. The future is here. Stop trying to force your ancient fantasy novel into modern discussions.
>>737900882So every biological creature has the same properties just because they are "alive"? Cause thats why you are implying. Also, conciousness is present in other beings according to SCIENCE
>>737900948>>737900950BTFO
>>737901101maybe i dont want to fly maybe i want to tend to my garden and watch the newest episode of my favorite show while drinking a hot cup of chocolate milk
>>737901101>Religion is from a time before governmentTheres not even a single definition for government, please stop using words you dont know nothing about
>>737901059Exactly. Living your life with the belief that you can somehow carry on and talk to your dead grandma or your living children, is stupid. You lived a stupid life. That's all we can agree on I suppose
>>737900841The dumbest members of homo sapiens to ever walk this earth post here. Always remember that. I'm not entirely convinced a lot of these anonymous idiots don't just shit and piss their pants on a regular basis.
>>737901220Central organization crrating laws for the land is has jurisdiction over. Done. Why are you pretending to be stupid? Does that just come naturally?
>>737901254Yeah, but you are not above those retards by claiming thats stupid, you are as stupid as them for beliving you can actually know any sort of objective truth about reality. Congrats, retard
>>737901101here's the thing, nobody disagrees with the spirit of the bible, murder is evil, theft is bad, cheating on your spouse is not good. The law is very explicit in that it condemns all these things totally. You could say that religion functions in the same way but they didn't have the presumption of a government authority pretending to be god, the ultimate authority is god.
>>737901254Idk man. You go through life believing you're a biomachine. Hard to top this kind of stupidity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ybSxBPf6sYI DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT TRANNIESI DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT JEWSI DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT GODI DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT BROWN OR BLACK PEOPLEI DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT WOMENI ONLY CARE ABOUT LIVING: MY LIFE IS THE ONLY LIFE THAT MATTERSBECAUSE IT IS MINE!IF THERE IS GOOD IN THIS WORLD I WILL DO ITBUT I WILL DO IT FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRT
>>737890450It's weird to have a picture of Apu accompanying a sad revelation about mortality. The positive side of that is there's more great things to see and do than a human lifetime can fit in, so even trying to do well means you'll never run out of things to do.
>>737901005what a fucking dogshit tweet>40k likeswhat's wrong with normalfags
>>737890450Theres is nothing worse than aging and getting old, its literally the ultimate humiliation ritual and it happens to makes death seems less miserable>Looks like shit, if you were good looking you are now ugly, and if you are ugly youre now even uglier>cants eat half the shit you enjoyed when you were young because, muh slow metabolism, muh high blood pressure, muh diabetes, muh high cholesterol, muh risk of stroke. Pathetic>cant take part in any radical sport, only fag shit like pilattes, running around the street, swimming in pissed pools>hair is gone. Will have plenty of it inside your ears, nose and ass tho. These one are there for life>will have money saved up. But old, cant even have a proper adventure, only these guided, overcrownded, overpriced travels>nothing really is amde for you anymore. Youre now forgotten left to rot >skin is shit and all flacid>muscle mass is gone>can break your bones for a small fucking slipping>People say your wise but your memory is mostly shit and will only deteriorate >Your imune system is supposed to be stronger because its has been around for longer and it remember things right? Wrong lol, dies over a bee sting or a fluu>If you happen to be engage you and your wife are aware you both look ugly asf and the sexual atraction between you 2 is basically zero. Pathetic, simply pathetic. Humans are the only animals in the animal kingdom that get CONSIDERABLY more fucked up after reaching old age.
>>737901338Some retard made up a lie. You believed it. Now you live your life differently as a result. That's not ephemeral. That's a very real and persistent consequence that I don't have to reckon with. We are not the same.
>>737901132you're wrong on that last bit because science doesn't say anything about consciousness because it's not a biological phenomenon that can be studied. It can measure the atoms in your body but it cant say what the color red looks the way it does from your perspective, it just can't and it never will.
>>737894734I suppose one day some scientist will figure this one out, probably it's just something really simple and boring like that our brains are matter that has gained the ability to be aware of itself, and that all matters in reality is capable of this, but we are the lucky ones.
Nigger.
>>737901319>decentralized forms of government existA single sentence and your "definitive" take goes down the drain. Pathetic....
what can change the nature of a man?
>>737901459Y-YOU'RE DOGSHIT *sniffles*
>Before you were born, you did not exist>Then, you suddenly began to exist as a spermatozoa>When you die, you return to that state of non-existenceNow, ask yourself. Is there a mechanism that would stop this from happening again and again?
>>737890450try tripping balls
>>737896275The computer makes a shitty simulcrum of you that can kind of say things like you would and can draw on flawed, half remembered memories of memories of yourself, while you go on living your life until you die, just like everyone else who didn't upload themselves into a computer.That's not how active conscienceness works. There is no coin-flip. Play Soma.
>>737901538>The 2012 Cambridge Declaration on Consciousness is a prominent scientific document signed by an international group of scientists, which asserts that non-human animals—including all mammals, birds, and creatures like octopuses—possess the necessary neurological, neurochemical, and neurophysiological substrates for conscious states"B-but thats not science, thats just a bunch of specialists gathering and making a claim based on their findings!!"Thats literally science...
>>737898514Nice
>>737901357Religion predates God my friend. Read up.>>737901375I fail to see your point. Does god power your body with magic blessings or something? Sounds stupid
>>737899867I don’t like this kind of thinking because ultimately it just leads to this nonsensical position where you’re vocally claiming all knowledge is impossible while obviously not believing it.
>>737901603Castration at birth
>>737901552This is not my opinion. This is widly regarded as fact. Do 1 Google search for me bud
you will watch from heavens how your gf fucks others[/spoi;er]we're all afraid of this I'm afraid
>>737901767post 5 examples
>>737901767>Im right because I read the first page of google, facts mean nothing!!!Baby, please...
>>737901814Religion was an early form of government in many ancient civilizations, where rulers derived authority from divine sources and laws were seen as divinely ordained. In societies such as ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia, leaders like pharaohs and priest-kings were considered gods or divinely chosen, blending political and religious roles to legitimize their rule. Divine authority and religious law were central to governance. For example, the Code of Hammurabi (circa 1750 BCE) claimed divine sanction, and in ancient Israel, the Torah functioned as both religious and civil law. Temples often served as administrative centers, reinforcing the unity of spiritual and political power. In Egypt, pharaohs maintained ma’at (cosmic order) as divine rulers.In Mesopotamia, rulers acted as representatives of city-state patron gods.The term theocracy was coined by Josephus in the 1st century AD to describe the Jewish system where "God was sovereign and the god's word was law."This fusion of religion and governance was typical of early civilizations and persisted in various forms, such as in the Byzantine Empire and later Islamic caliphates.
>>737901771If afterlife exists, then no matter what form it takes, you're sure to realize that slapping genitals together wasn't that important after all.
>retards are actually debating the existence of sentient lifelol, lmao eveni bet you guys are the kind to tolerate animal abuse because theyre "lower" than humansthose kinds of hypocritical "christians" annoy me the most
>>737901867I hope so anon
>>737901850Oh no! Now we cant even trust wikipedia or Google!? Damn I knew we already couldn't trust basic science. I had no idea it had spread so far!
>>737901615Based. I've had a dozen psilocybin trips this year alone now that I've found a reliable supplier.
>>737901682They said the substrate had the components for consciousness but not that consciousness exists, which is a different claim entirely. It's like getting a box of all the chemical components for a cat and then the scientists calling it a cat with consciousness because it had all the components for consciousness to arise, which is true but it doesn't explain why anything is happening at all.
>>737901386(You) WA SHOCKSHITPOST DE SORA GA OCHITE KURU(You) WA SHOCKORE NO REPLY NI OCHITE KURU
>>737901865its not really decentralized if theres a giant nigger faggot owning everything like a pharaoh or mesopotamiam king.
>>737901931>SOURCE: WIKIPEDIASorry Timmy, I thought I was dealing with an adult, not a 5th grade school project
>>737890450The saddest part is that we have to wageslave in our meaningless life.But don't be sad for the games you will miss. Every form of art is getting worse, but also future generations will die, if not in a war, for lack of resources.We keep wasting every sort of resources, and things are finite.The garbage we can't recycle... The microplastics and forever chemicals infecting everything...
>God is not rea-ACK
>>737891230Maybe you have anxiety and not a medical condition, I take pills for anxiety and they eliminate the pain/tightness in my chest.
>>737898514>it cant be proven or disprovenmidwit redditoid momentthats the attitude of someone who goes nowhere in life because they are perpetually neutral
Also the Sun is 400 times farther away than the Moon, while also having almost exactly 400 times greater radius. This allows for a perfect eclipse, the likes of which we haven't observed anywhere outside of Earth. Coincidence tho
>>737902053In modern terms, this area corresponds to most of Iraq, as well as parts of eastern Syria, southeastern Turkey, and western Iran. >>737902062Earth is 6,000 years old right? Yeah we can't take this conversation further if you're going to cosplay as a retard.
>>737902146
>>737902146Retard
>>737902331>we haven't observed>observedI mean, the jokes just write themselvesWhere's the Australian banter when you need it
>>737902146Bees also constantly create perfect geometric shapes in crafting honeycombs
>>737890450I lost that fear as soon as I had kids.I can gracefully accept the end now.
>>737902353And the goalpost keeps moving further and further....
>tfw nobody will even remember you existedjust like you don't remember someone who lived 120 years ago. You don't care if he had sex or not, if he fucked up something
>>737902495*farther and farther [away]imo you should pay for a better english tutor
Damn who knew /v/ had so many delusional religious fags. I guess that's what happens when the average age of a space is like 10-12. No time to think for yourselves, huh.Imagine someone shitting on your favorite vidya and then turning around to whisper to a gay man tied to a stick. What an awful, stupid place.
>>737902584everyone remembers Isaac Newton
>>737900462It's the karmic way of punishing sloth.The worse you allow the world to become, and the more you tolerate shitty nations proliferating, the higher your chances to be one of them in your next life.
>>737902606And further and further and further....
What's even worse is dying without finishing your backlog, but I mean games that actually matter to you not just random shit you add because it's supposed to be good, all those games that you thought you would come back to when you had the time at some point, and never did, you just died they were just another unfulfilled thing.
>>737902495You're the one claiming religion wasn't a precursor to government? There's no goal posts. You're just wrong. In time you'll understand and I'm sure you'll think of me years down the road every time it comes up. Get fucked, champ.
>>737902663I mean you don't remember ordinary 99%ters
>>737902625Anon being an edgy atheist stopped being a thing in like 2012. Are you too young to remember fedoras? I'm not telling you to not being an atheist, just to not be the edgy type.
>>737902625>to a gay man tied to a stickAnon, I rather practice an animistic nigerian tradition than some gay abrahamic bullshit
>>737890450Just upload your brain before you die and you can play vidya until humanity fucks up
>>737896979Both things are the same. Just activities that fire up your dopamine receptors although laying in your couch is sustainable long term compared to traveling.
>>737902751>I'm sure you'll think of me years down the road every time it comes uplmao
>>737902584I remember a lot of people from 120 or even more years ago. This is a cope for being mediocre.
>>737902625I could tell you to repent but I understand that God has a plan for everyone and I trust that in time you'll come to see things differently. In my experience, telling someone to change their mind rarely does. I found God in an unexpected way after a horrible tragedy. In the meantime I pray for the happiness and wellbeing of everyone, especially athiests, for many of them embody the ideal of kindness even without a religious reason.
>>737902353Either insane or a genuine bot Nigger, ancient egypt is not a decentralized state, are you from pluto or something?
>>737902830you've got a wikipedia page?99% dont
>>737902843>God has a plan for everyone
>>737902772And why are you not capable of keeping it all to yourself? See thats the problem. Atheism and theism are not equal. One is the default pov barring any new evidence and the other is a bunch of contrived fantasy bullshit. We literally cannot weight them equally. You might as well be saying "2+2=5 but all forms of math are valid". It's stupid. You're stupid.
>christianity somehow only exists because of wikipedia (???)>but wikipedia doesnt count as a source for things i dont liketop kekall of you, christians and athests in this thread, are so embarassing
>>737892150god i wish i could sleep more, i love sleep, i love lying in bed not even tired and just daydreamingfucking bears i wish i could hibernate
>>737902896Maybe I should, I'll let you know I have 580 followers on xitter
>>737901005I could "Thesius' Ship" my way into dissecting me from them, and at a certain point without context it'll just feel like a different person. Or what I should say is the value of acknowledging me if another timeline could feel just as inspiring as someone else who is more successful, whatever criteria we are using to determine such a factor.
>>737902772I don't want to put a label on my beliefs but I'm finding it harder and harder to believe that a kind and loving god exists. If any gods exist, they don't deserve to be worshipped, because no god worth worshipping would allow the world to get as bad as it's getting. A god needs to provide something more than an absence of thunderbolts to justify worshipping them.
>>737902979I'm not saying that at all. I'm just calling you edgy.
Fuyutsuki:Humans create Evangelion to copy God... Is this our true goal?Yui:Yes. Humans can only live on this planet, but Evangelion can live forever... together with the human soul that dwellswithin it.Even after 5 billion years, when the Earth, the Moon, and even the Sun have disappeared, it will still exist as long aseven one person still lives.It will be very lonely, but as long as that one person still lives...Fuyutsuki:It will be the eternal proof that humankind has existed...
>>737901005The Guardian Legend
>>737902843>but I understand that God has a plan for everyoneWhat if that plan is just to laugh at our suffering?
>>737903071Pseud series desu
>>737902979How convenient that the belief which came to you in your 13yo rebel phase and never went away, happens to be the default.
>>737902829Oh I guess I forgot to consider the possibility that you stay ignorant until your death.
>>737902972I am perfectly fine with atheists and atheist perspectives, but if you are entertaining the existence of an all powerful being lording over the universe and are cheeky enough to say "heh, guess I am the one he forgot", I find that to be insultingly more arrogant than asserting your atheist beliefs.
>>737891783sounds exactly like what the spiteful cunt would do
>>737903115nta but i know literally nothing about any religionjust wasnt brought up that waysome people its not a phase
It's cool how we're all alive right now, we type these words on the digital screen, we breathe we just look around, we see the world, we are somewhat healthy and functional,Do you anon believe in fate? I mean is there even a free will? or we are just actors in a pre-set movie?
>>737901603yeah the fact that we're biologically separate and distinct genius, you'd have to somehow prove there's any sort of non-physical but real connection between humans for me to entertain the idea that your "soul" can just swap over into a new lifewhere i'm at right now i'm still pretty open about whether it's just nothing forever, a simulation, or a non-divine higher power like something that just came before us and made us but isn't omniscient
>>737902979Can you provide evidence that it is the default?
>>737903115Religion is like a penis: it's fine if you have one, but don't show it in public, don't cram it down children's throats, and don't try to use it for writing laws.
>>737896554Maybe for you. But the thought of ending this life, with no survivors is still really scary
>>737902843God isn't real. You found your own concious thoughts. I'm sorry your so insecure that you couldn't even attribute that to yourself. I hope you eventually learn to ditch these nonsense obsessions and live a life free of mental gymnastics.
>>737903229If you used more of your penis to write laws, we wouldn't be in this mess with women's rights.
>>737902848I agree Mesopotamia is not Egypt. I think you are struggling with some reading comprehension though.
>>737903220I believe we have free will. I also believe that the chemicals in our brains and the experiences we've had are the guiding hands that create the preferences in our mind, but the choice is still voluntary on most any direction, hence I do believe in free will.
>>737903257>God isn't real.And if he is real he's doing a crap job so he doesn't deserve your worship anyway.
>>737902843>God has a plan for everyoneIt's not worth the tears of that one tortured child who beat itself on the breast with its little fist and prayed in its stinking outhouse, with its unexpiated tears to 'dear, kind God'! It's not worth it, because those tears are imatoned for. They must be atoned for, or there can be no harmony. But how? How are you going to atone for them? Is it possible? By their being avenged? But what do I care for avenging them? What do I care for a hell for oppressors? What good can hell do, since those children have already been tortured? And what becomes of harmony, if there is hell? I want to forgive, I want to embrace. I don't want more suffering. And if the sufferings of children go toswell the sum of sufferings which was necessary to pay for truth, then I protest that the truth is not worth such a price.
>>737903318because i dont give a shit about you or your shitty inane ramblings you fucking half ape schizo. i hope you look at yourself in the mirror tommorrow and the mirror fucking shatters in your face youre so ugly. your seed must stink like sulphur you fucking demon
>>737891019Outer Wilds + dlcDisco ElysiumSignalisElden Ring
>>737903329Yeah it seems random, but at the end you can only choose one thing, and once you choose its done, so is this really random? or the chemicals are scripted to behave that way?
>>737903228Lol what the fuck?How about this: my belief is that there is a super duper god that created your bitch god. Actually i believe theres infinite gods. I believe we're all gods living in heaven right now! Can you prove your contrived bullshit is more valid than mine? Or maybe we should both stop making shit up
>>737903229I'm fine with this as long as we consider wokism a religion
>>737903220The universe is most likely deterministic, a millions of years old chain of events that was set into motion by the big bang, and every event that is added to that chain is entirely dependent on the event that preceded it. We are on rails, and you can either enjoy the ride or be miserable trying to exert control over the fundamentally uncontrollable.
>>737903342https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL7e05pClKM
>>737903342>If God exists, his only purpose is to make this meat puppet comfortable for me!
>>737903386Honestly, the whole "blah blah blah mysterious ways blah blah blah plan for everyone" thing reeks of battered wife syndrome. "He only hurts us because he loves us! It's our fault for not doing better!"
>>737903220Air goes in and out of my lungs, blood flows through my veins, subtle magical energy sparkles through my soul. Strong bones and muscle hold me upright as i sit in this chair, ready to do any number of things. I am alive, and it is beautiful.
>>737890450Just enjoy the time you have left anon. You can be happy.
>>737903415See I knew this would happen. This is the predictable response when a 15 yo has their worldview shattered. You're nothing but a sheep and a statistic. Go hug your mom.
>>737903342what makes you think being happy is the purpose?
>>737903482>>737903495Again: a god must provide more than an absence of thunderbolts to justify worshipping them. Otherwise it's not a religion, it's a protection racket.
>>737892027You never recievedca shitty gift for xmas or your bday before?
>>737903457We can make choices because our prefrontal cortex is more complex than other life forms, that's why we have free will
>>737892617fix your life
>>737899403>Tfw peaking in my early 30'sRight now I'm feeling euphoric.
>>737903480If everything is just preceding everything that came before it, then WHY does it feel like i have the agency to do anything presently? I could do anything or go anywhere.
>>737903573Because if it's not the purpose, then why exactly do you even worship a god who doesn't want you to be happy? Because you're scared of what'll happen if you don't worship him?
>>737903457The chemicals have a likely cause-effect but there are so many other factors in the world that it's very difficult to control what seems like obvious logic progressions unless you hyper micromanage. I could have a child and never abuse them so they never grow up with trauma. But then one day we get into a car accident, not at all my fault but the other driver's, and from that day on she experiences trauma and fear for being in cars. I couldn't protect her from it, and possibly after years of therapy she can voluntarily train herself out of that trauma (if not deal with it functionally), but the world touched them in a way I never intended nor was prepared for and it influenced her in a reasonably predictable way, but her own willpower may help her break out of it.
>>737903480>What is Quantum Mechanics
>>737890450Yes, and? You'll be dead anyway
>>737903459You're not speaking to just one person. Very well, believe away at any of those things, but we are no closer to determining or proving what the default human belief of the universe's construct is. An atheist believes not just that there is not enough evidence to prove a god existing, but also believes they have seen enough to make that inference.
>>737903679There's an eternal afterlife to be happy and this life could just be learning? I'm just guessing here I'm not religious.
>>737903663Nta. The mechanisms in which you exercise your agency are physical and exist in finite space. The inputs are themselves deterministic. It's just rly rly vast and complicated, and it feels like you are deciding things when really we're just along for the ride.
>>737903663evolutionary trait. it's not real
>>737903663the problem is you can't do everything at once, you are limited by 4D time and spaceyou can only go forward with time, picking thing after thing after thing
>>737890450i worried about this from 7-22 years oldnow i dont worry about it no moremy life is goodmaybe when im 80 ill feel scared again but i accept that
>>737903718The God of the Gaps equivalent for science.
>>737899490If not working out shortens your lifespan then working out would counteract the shortening and thus add time since by making not working out the default your life is by default shorter than it would be if you worked out.
>>737903558stop talking to me
>>737903584>a god must provide more than an absence of thunderbolts to justify worshipping themLike what? None of the Gods that have been worshipped in any civilization through all of human history have provided more than that (because we all live in the same world), why are you making this assumption of what deserves worship and what doesn't?
>>737890450>be being>this gamesESL's aren't even human; hell you don't even have souls.
>>737903857Describing the origins of life/the universe/etc. is objectively easier without trying to hamfist the existence of God into everything. Imo I see no reason to complicate and muddy the hypothesis with a bunch of shit we have no evidence for. You're working backwards when you should be working forwards. I personally dont find any of it compelling and atheism is obvious to me. For example where does God reside? You have to contrive different dimensions etc and do all these gymnastics just to meet me in the same spot. It's dumb
>>737903894I hate that kind of attitude because it obfuscates choice by painting it as deterministicYes, broadly speaking, everything we do is "preordained" in the sense that our unique experiences all lead us to be different and make different choicesBut that doesn't mean those choices are set, otherwise you could just justify everything horrible you do with "it was fated to happen because I chose to do it and that choice was determined"It's also a pointless topic because animals do have free choice too as anyone who has owned a pet or looked after animals would tell you, the difference is that animals mostly operate on instinct and only learn some things from their parents and communities while humans have evolved past their primal instincts and basically learn everything that isnt a very deeply ingrained biological response from their social environment
>>737892617>tinnitus Ffffuuuuck I hate when I forget about it and then someone reminds me again. Fuck youuuu
of course an offtopic esl frog thread is the fastest thread here on blue /b/
>>737904040Well if you read the Old Testament, then it appears that ancient Jews had a direct phone line to God at any time.
>>737904035Close the tab
>>737903887I don't think it's healthy to treat life as just an audition for the afterlife. Plus, if you're only doing good things because you expect to be rewarded for them later, then you're probably a selfish piece of shit. Besides, if God is all-knowing, then he knows when someone is trying to pull a fast one. There's no bullshitting your way through the Pearly Gates.
>>737890450Recently, I was pondering whether I’d be able to play new video games in Heaven, or even whether I would care about vidya.
>>737903986is it? it describes nature very well
>>737890987idk i just kind of assume it'll be the same as before i was born so it must be alrightalso i hope the janitor dies before anyone else on here because i love u guys
>>737904230We don't know what happens after death, so there is a big possibility you move on to another dimension, and guess what, games exists there
>>737904230When I was 8 I dreamed Jesus met me, walked me up a heavenly staircase into the clouds (~100m above the Earth) and took me to a Blockbuster in the sky.
>>737904040>Like what?Like actually answering prayers, for starters. I hate repeating myself, but if the only reason you're worshipping a god is because you're scared of being punished for not worshipping him, then it's a protection racket, not a religion. You don't have a God, you have a Godfather.
>>737904336god works in mysterious ways
My parents are their sixties and my mind is simply not ready for the realisation that one day they will be gone forever
>bastard and cynical atheist his whole life>as soon as he's about to die he calls a priest to be converted hoping to go to heavenkek
>>737904149Do you think computers are deterministic? To me the brain is constrained by the same rules. I just cant make the leap to "randomness exists" or whatever is required. Its unsettling, sure, but I find the argument for determinism quite strong
>>737904384They will die one day, you will die one day, It's just scary that the fairy tale ends
>>737904302Despite being a hilariously 8yo dream, that is really wonderful.
>>737904292Furthermore if something happens once, it is statistically guaranteed to happen againWhether or not this is a blessing or a curse, I will leave for you to decide
>>737904207>Plus, if you're only doing good things because you expect to be rewarded for them later, then you're probably a selfish piece of shitThis argument falls apart because it uses the assumption that that's the ONLY reason. Which is a huge assumption too.>you're le bad if you only do good things because of religion>bad according to what?>to the morals from that same religion
>>737903894I see, it's like the universe is deterministic, however i just happen to occupy the correct node in the structure to influence things, using my self-model.but the critic in me says>You've just redefined free will to mean something weaker than what we actually care about. We wanted the ability to have genuinely done otherwise. You're giving us 'acted without a gun to your head' and calling it freedom."
>>737904371Are you deliberately making me repeat myself? I already said that the whole mysterious ways thing makes you sound like a battered housewife. Stop trying to justify the abuse! Get out of there before he kills you!
just wait until your family starts going one by one. hope you neet's are ready.
>>737904336Tldr God has his fingers on EVERY variable in the universe, how do you know he hasn't started a natural domino chain that will answer your prayers in time? God's prayer answers in my experience are very often a "I will answer your need by showing you that you don't actually need after all" situation.
>>737892150Your brain purge some liquid shit while you're sleeping, without that you would die within days
>>737904386Meanwhile
>>737898330Waking up early on sunday and learning valuable moral lessons made me a better lifeform than you. :)
>>737904391Brain is much more complex than a computer, a computer is stupid, it only adds tons of 1s and 0s very quickly. Also there is emergence, real phenomena that occur only when a system is sufficiently complex. A single water molecule isn’t wet, but the ocean is.
>>737904292The Bible describes Heaven loosely as “a great feast,” and a feast ought to have a gaming setup somewhere.
>>737904469>how dare you use my own religion's rules against meHere's an idea: why not do good things just because you enjoy doing good? Oh, I know, because you don't enjoy doing good. When's the last time you helped someone without expecting anything in return?
>>737904245Because it is literally people looking at how physics have been empirically shown to work and noticing that there are things that do not fit into that framework. Do they do the logical thing and come to the conclusion that there are things about classical physics yet to be discovered? No, they come up with some crackpot hypothesis that allows them to hold onto their suppositions instead of having to admit that they really have no idea.And because this hypothesis has been made to literally brute force answers about the nature of reality, of course it "describes nature" well.
>>737904546I love the "Five People you Meet in Heaven" angle of everyone having their own personal realm of heaven that applies and relates specifically to them. My heaven absolutely would have some Valhalla-esque angle of living, or I suppose being, to the fullest.
>>737904510Better by what metric? By the amount of good boy points you've accrued? Anon I've lived a free and happy life. Can you say the same?
>>737904149You can hate it all you want but it's true. Humans have the same agency as any other chemical reaction. The universe just churns up conscious beings to experience whatever pain or pleasure is set in store for them and then disappear.
>>737890450For what it's worth, by the time you're old, you'll probably be okay with death. Once your body has broken down to the point you're in pain all the time, you'll welcome the final rest.
>>737904567It’s not that classical physics is incomplete, it’s that there is an as-yet undiscovered physical system which describes classical physics and quantum mechanics.
>>737904560>against meBut this hypothetical person is following those rules, what are you on?>you're not following them for the right reasonsokay?
It's just fucking scary bro's, Death,I don't know this thread gave me the spooks
>>737904636Yeah, I think that’s how I want Heaven to be. At the same time, I don’t want to hold the expectation that my preferences are God’s preferences.
>>737904489>God's prayer answers in my experience are very often a "I will answer your need by showing you that you don't actually need after all" situation.Oh, what a convenient excuse to avoid having to get off his ass and do something. Face it: if your god really exists, he's either terminally lazy or actively malicious. Either way, you can't count on gods for shit. The only reason to keep gods around is because it's awkward to say "Aaaargh, random quantum fluctuations on a pogo stick!" when you stub your toe.
>>737904560Believing you're a good person is one of the biggest indicators that you're a piece of shit actually, there's even studies about this, all pieces of shit believe themselves to be good while better people tend to look on the flaws in their morals.
>>737904518Buddy what do you think neurons are doing? Our entire brains are running off electric impulses. 1s and 0s.
>>737904685Yes, because I learned to be a kinder person than you thanks to church during my adolescence and continue to learn new valuable lessons about how to live a just and happy life.
>>737904703It's possible to be old and healthy enough to walk to the grocery store, the issue is that modern society is unhealthy as fuck and the body develops an unhealthy relationship to calories and fat as you get older. Both of which are in excess in a first world country.
>>737904703I suspect this is true, although some people die young, and some others stay healthy into their 80s and beyond.
>>737904756I know, anon. Me too.
>>737904687It's not. No it isn't, a lab rat can't stop to think "hey, they are using me as a guinea pig" because it only follows basic instincts. Man has the capacity to die for an abstract ideal, or to go against all biological "common sense" just because he feels like it. The brain still produces dopamine and the other transmitters, but the human being has the prefrontal cortex which allows him to say "no" to those impulses. Freedom is the possibility to choose
>>737904892You needed church for that? Weird. I figured out all that on my own.
>>737904996Doesn't seem like it considering you don't respect other people's beliefs.
All souls are transfigured pure essences of angels that sacrificed themselves to give law and reason to the plague of mindless flesh.God challenges all lifeforms with souls to evolve into higher tier species and civilizations, similar to angels, inorder to use them as more soldiers against the forces of entropy that wish to collapse reality.
>You needed church for that? Weird. I figured out all that on my own.
>>737904981I guess we do have some freedom thenFreedom to think we're free
>>737891149You can't miss masterpiece games from the past because you can literally play virtually all past games right now.
>>737904842So just admit that you don't want to be a good person at all. What you really want is a Get Out Of Hell Free Card.
>>737904996Thats like saying you learned to be a master cook with no actual training and just flailing around in a kitchen.
>>737904981What do you think is happening in the prefrontal cortex that defies causality?
>>737905027Why would I respect something stupid? See that's the issue. You feel you are owed something because you invested time into your cult. Nobody cares. Keep it to yourself.
>>737904851The brain is plastic, it evolves and "reprograms itself", a computer will always do the same thing if you don't tell it to do otherwise
>>737905114Bad analogy. Its very possible to teach yourself how to cook. You sound like you're 16.
>>737905082You do realize on this same thread I told you I wasn't religious right? If instead of focusing on attacking your adversary and do it with actual arguments maybe people would take you seriously. Look at my arguments then look at yours, you're just trying to tell me I'm a bad person lol.
>>737905046What need does an omnipotent entity have for soldiers?
>>737896624Big problem with your theory. The Nazis were German. Meaning that the majority of autists of today would have been considered Neurotypical in a hypothetical global 3rd Reich, because a certain level of autism is normal for Germans.
>>737904832Ah but that's the rub; many times the help God gives people is the motivation, courage, or emotional strength to get up and accomplish what they thought was hopeless before. The brain needs to be confident it can perform a task in order for that task to be much much more accomplishable, and being given the confidence sometimes is all the push a human needs. Simultaneously, gaining that confidence might take a very long time to happen, it appears to be such a pedantic roadblock but it, in a sense, is the greatest roadblock of them all. This is where that notion of "helping those who help themselves" comes from. Ever heard the story of God and the man in the flood? God brought him a helicopter and a boat, he didn't need to bring a giant hand down to Earth and scoop the man up just to save him. You have to keep an open mind, if God is in every living creature than actions of God can come from anywhere and anyone.
>>737905170This is not a place for good people.
>>737905114Anyone who thinks religion is a requirement to be morally just is in fact immoral themselves by definition.
>>737905124Because it's not stupid for them? It's actually super important, they might actually die for it if they have the chance.
>>737905294Would you respect a man who flung himself into a volcano because he thought it would make him a super hero? Respect is earned and I do not respect stupid people who cannot think for themselves.
>>737905163Yeah and you will be a peon compared to one professionally trained.
>>737905386I would respect his ambition and his ability to carry it out, but very little other than that.
>>737905258No one said that, but you will be like a lost child who thinks he is a master.
>>737905414If that's what you believe then go ahead and pay someone your hard earned money :)Spoiler alert: you are a fool.
>>737904510Yet every devout Christian country in the world is a crime ridden shithole.
>>737905121>What do you think is happening in the prefrontal cortex that defies causality?Science has intrinsic limits, just look at Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem. A system cannot fully explain or model itself from within. The brain is not capable of fully explaining its own complexity, not even with infinite computing power. There will always be an unresolvable gap where agency lives
>>737905238>many times the help God gives people is the motivation, courage, or emotional strength to get up and accomplish what they thought was hopeless before.So he doesn't provide anything that you couldn't get by hiring a life coach. I still don't understand why anyone should worship a god who tries so hard to get out of actually doing anything for his worshippers himself. If the entire system functions without him contributing anything meaningful, then why is he even part of the system in the first place?
>>737905472A master at being respectful? The fuck are you even saying? You wasted your life and youre desperately trying to justify it. Get fucked loser
>>737905551You cant teach the children unwilling to learn.
>>737905587>A system cannot fully explain or model itself from withinHow do you think reverse-engineering works, moron?
>>737905626Your post is perfect evidence of your lack of spiritual training.
>>737905386>people who cannot think for themselvesI know a lot of people way smarter than me that are religious, this is not a good assumption either. Didn't you say being atheist is the default state? How does that qualify as thinking for yourself?The truth is most people are not really atheists, they just have never thought about it, as soon as they get ill or their children are suffering they start praying.
>>737905723Go play with your tarot cards and crystal ball then buddy
>>737905665>moves the goalpostskek
>>737905183Forces of the other Supreme beings.
>>737905775>as soon as they get ill or their children are suffering they start prayinglmao. whatever helps you sleep I guess
>>737905775>they start prayingNah they take them to medical professionals not pray to a Jewish volcano deity.https://www.independent.co.uk/news/sick-seven-year-old-boy-dies-seth-johnson-plymouth-minnesota-parents-pray-instead-call-911-ambulance-doctor-pancreatitis-sepsis-a7512461.html
>>737890450Don't worry about it you'll respawn anyway
>>737905667But who's doing the reverse engineering? Another human brain? So, another system that can't explain itself? You'd need an alien
>>737905593Not everyone can hire a life coach. That's the point, he can provide when you cannot acquire it yourself. And even if you can afford such a life coach? Who made the coach? Who provided the world, the food for the coach to be raised and grow up in, to mature and learn how to be a coach? Who provided humans with the brain to create a society and create the art of life coaches? Who allowed humanity to thrive in desirable conditions that the coach grew up in? It all circles back to the creator, if they aren't the direct reason you have achieved your goals they are still the indirect cause, and that deserves appreciation.
>>737905862>>737905967>denying the truthThis is a literal concession.
>>737905809I don't think you understand the definition of omnipotent. The very nature of being omnipotent means that there is nothing you cannot do, which means nothing is a problem for an omnipotent being. If there are more than one omnipotent being, none of them could do anything to the others, so balance between them would be naturally preserved.
>>737905665You can, by negative reinforcement and disaster.
>>737905775Do you genuinely think its harder to accept some shit someone is trying to sell you rather than saying "no that's bullshit"Because imo it takes a not to stand on business and not fold like a bitch.
>>737904302Jesus is so cool
>>737906051You are delusional to think anyone gives a shit about your made up deity. If I get sick I'll sooner be praying to Harry Potter because at least that is tangible in some way.
imagine all those fucking losers dying on a battlefield for some jewsatleast your life has been in comfort and relatively easyyou gotta enjoy what you got while you got it, and if you die so be it, not like you got a choice or way to stop it.
>>737906016If we’re operating on this logic the creator also deserves scorn for everything bad
If i don't believe in death, i can't die.
>>737905775If god is real then I will deny him to his face. If the Bible is to be taken as truth then I want nothing to do with that greedy, jealous, insecure, shitty excuse for a god. You are worshipping the literal devil you absolute goon
>>737906252There are simply not enough juiceboxes to go around for us to have 2nds or 3rds, God has a universe (class) to run and a teacher cannot just entertain one student in the class. "Mysterious Ways" sometimes is code for keeping the natural order
>>737906291Ride that belief until the day you d- I mean, forever.
>>737906058Thats why their armies must do battle instead.
>>737905967>ONE caseIs this the power of logical thinking from atheists? They don't understand statistics? Is this why most of them are leftists who don't know what per capita means?
>>737905789>>737905794Lol, i don't actually give a shit. Im just tryin to fuck with you and make you mad. Hail Satan
>>737903645How? Get a job? Drivers license? A girlfriend? A degree? You really think thats gonna help ATP?
>>737906918Well you failed because I've been laughing at you. Hope you have a good rest of your day.
>>737905775look at all those seething replies
You guys are fucking weird. I cannot WAIT to be fucking dead.>Kill yourself thenIt's not that simple.
>>737905967>>737905862I think you guys misunderstood what he was saying. Going to the doctor doesn't mean they're not gonna pray or vice versa. He's also just saying that most people are not true atheists, not that they're wrong or anything like that, and he's right.
