That's harsh
Old women deserve nothing.
Made her wet
Quistis was the only interesting character in the whole game.
>pursuade a clearly disinterested guy into going for a walk using your authority as his teacher to make it sound official just so you can whine about your problemsShe needed to be told Squall was 100% in the right here
>>737890876i had a similar interaction with a girl, she would just come to talk to me about anything but i was never interested. One time she asked me why i never started conversations with her and i said "i only talk when asked or have something to say", then she said with anger "that's not a conversation, it's an interview" and left. I still think about that sometimes
>>737890876ignoring all the signs of trauma and just yapping is worse than telling you to fuck off.
>>737890876What kinda teacher hits on her student
>>737892532she was horny
>>737892690All of them these days.
>>737892690>>737892720she's just a couple years older or something, basically a senpaiSquall is such a no way fag tho.Wish we had player created protag with romance options instead of that crap
>>7378930381 year only, which doesn't seem right. Much like Lulu, i thought she was mch older but nope
the english localization really is terrible, huh?
>>737894315No, its fine. Don't start that shit here, too - you have plenty of other threads to shit up.
>>737893038>>737893151>Squall was 17>Quistis was 18What the fuck, this is so gay. I thought there was a big age gap, but that's it?
>>737890876He's a total dick and yet ALL the girls are obsessed with him over genuine badass motherfucker Irvine or jock golden retriever Zell
>>737894432but it seems to be the case in general with FF.FF14 also has a terrible meme localization.thank god I dont have to suffer those.
>>737894438Quistis was one of those 'mature for her age' kids and the grown ups rewarded her matureness with being a teacher.
>>737894506Selphie was kinda whatever heh about him, no?
>>737890876Damn that model is so off model
>>737894438I assumed Quistis and Irvine were like 25 and the rest around 18 when I played the game.
>>737892690The good ones.
>>737890876Q = U
>>737890914She's 18When he's gonna be 42 he'll think back to this moment, cringe, down a whiskey and masturbate while Rinoa cooks dinner and complains in the kitchen
>>737894545FF8 was when they "got it right" with the translation, at least with the most common terms. FF1 to FF6 all got retranslated but FF7 always will have that weird classic translation with Bolt 2 instead of Thundara and all it's weird quirks.
>>737890876That bitch was abusing her authority by forcing Squall to spend time with her!
>>737894709Modern FFs really underestimate the impact reading the characters' thoughts had in ff8 and ff9Ff7 gets wild flashbacks, ffX gets Tidusc rambling to himself and narrating like a gigafaggot, but her Squall's "I was just trying to help" exposes that he is oversensitive to rejection. Suddenly you're actually role playing. You might not like him, it's hard to, but now he's more real. Ff9 already used it less introspectively so the effect is greater in this game. Legend of dragoon had also similar moments, but again not introspectively. One of the many reasons ff8 feels so real.
>>737892690>>737894438It's a military institution, Quistis wasn't a high school teacher, she was an instructor that was just one rank above. And she got fired in that exact scene OP posted.
>>737894709A sensitive young man in a world full of evil sorceresses.
>>737895743Too real for me.
>>737895743he's quite literally me
>>737895743>>737896596>>737897056I've always held fast the people complaining about Squall were simply too fucking stupid to understand what he was talking about, and I've never been proven wrong.
>>737890876Playing this game in Japanese was eye opening.
>>737897215
>Go to War Squall>Go support this grassroots faction Squall >Go murder the sorceress Squall >Go save your home from missiles Squall >Become our leader Squall >Go murder your mother figure Squall >Go to space Squall>Go to the future SquallNigga I'm 17
>>737895743>>737896596>>737894709>>737897056>>737897185>>737897446The Ryan Gosling of videogames
>>737897056I can't believe I missed that Squall used to be Charlie Brown with hair. I'll never lived down the shame of having such poor media literacy.
Is this game supposed to be a comedy?Seriously why do shitllenials love this cringe garbage.
>>737897584Literally me.
>>737894315there's some bad and a lot of midbetter than ff9 tho and most ps1 games honestly
>>737895103lol, yup
>>737894709post the amano art. fuck man I still ship Squall x Selphie. I don't like Rinoa as a character but I'll admit Squall x Rinoa is still cute but FUCK I wish Selphie was end game.
>>737898449this one?
>>737890876I wouldn't call this a great game but it has more great moments in it than a lot of great games
>>737898561Nah this one
>>737892720You must be American>>737894438Pretty sure she's 19. She graduated with 18 and was a teacher for a year.
>>737898561VIII has the comfiest party. No yucky adults or weird races.
>>737898449With how heavily the game features predestination as a theme it would probably weaken the narrative somewhat if they had to provide for multiple girls but even with preferring Rinoa I can't deny a fair man his preference. Imagine an FF7R level remake expanding and improving on everything but actually properly.
>>737895743Squall is a decent character, but the game around him does him no favors. Also, making him say "whatever" makes him come off as way more dimissive then a more suitable alternative would, like "what a drag"
>>737899360i actually like "whatever", it has that "it is what it is" relateable kinda feel
>>737895148They raped Ultimecia's lines, though.
>>737899470>they raped ultimeciacan't blame them
>>737897586>>737897056
>>737897640Because it is literally art.
>>737899165>or weird races.At least if you don't count Laguna's party.
>>737899680FFVIII is quite literally poetry in vidya form
>>737899730Kiros is literally Michael Jackson, and he's honorary white.
Beep. Boop.
>>737899348I don't mind Squall not getting Selphie in the game, because i like my man Irvine. He deserves the win.
>>737899894why does this nigga lives under the school?
>>737900009forgot pic
>>737892690You don't want to know.
Was it actually autism?
>>737900059he's a JEW
>>737900175>big chin rather than big noseinteresting
>>737900002Also valid. Wish that being able to run around FH alone with him wasn't so obtuse to stumble on.
if you play with these soulless abomination models you should be killed
>>737890876remake looks like fucking garbage
>>737900614damn, bro pierced his ears at 10
>>737892690Shes his foster sister too
>>737902218Guy went around piercing all sorts of things.
>>737897215>>737897423You will never be a slantoid
Why did squall pull so much ass in this game when he has the personality of a damp sponge
>>737900064Their? I thought sensei was canonically male?
>>737903414Because he is a man of action.
>>737903414He's sigma
>>737903414It is a mystery.
>>737903597he's literary me
>>737903414His competition is Nameless Mob A through Z and Zell, who has mental problems. And Cowboy Hat, but he's gay.
>>737903487YEAH I FUCKING LOVE SEED AND FUCK
>>737903597>Nightcall starts playing
>>737903929Reminder that originally the different Gardens would morph together and become a mecha. In fact, they were each design with that in miind. The devs weren't able to make it work in time for the game. So keep in mind that, yes, the Gardens are able to become a mecha.
>>737898680Amano's still is very oneiric
>>737892373You dumbass
>>737890876I can understand squall not wanting people to vent to him
I knew Squall was somewhat controversial of a character, so I was blown away when I played FF8 for the first time recently, and he was easily the best character in the game, by a lot. Now you could argue that his competition not being stiff isn't saying much, but still.
>>737900120Take your pic>GF brain damage (instant)>Trauma>Mindrape from being associated with too many real life wizards>GF brain damage (over time)>Autism>Lack of parental figures except Edea (who went fucking crazy)>Orphan>Lived in an actual bombed out wasteland before joining SEEDSquall has many reasons to be the mess that he is I think, compared to other protagonists. Except Cloud, Cloud has the best one (mindrape, induced schizophrenia, fugue amnesia, mako experiments).
>>737895743I fucking hate holden caufield in any form he takes
>>737899680KINO
>>737903789You forget>SeiferSomehow even more autistic than Squall
>>737906561He got out and got that witch puss.
>>737906683he based his entire life on a movie he watched. In a way, he is the guy wanting to be Ryan Gosling, and making his movie roles his personality. FFVIII is meta a fug
>>737900059>NORG & Cid's Seed and Feed
>>737906683>>737906768>Became a simp for the first highly specific female that gave him attentionHe was autistic, he learned from the best after all and by that I mean Squall's dad
>>737890876wish I could be this cool
>>737906678My man Nida.
>>737908264This is another place where the localizers fucked up, but in this case is understandable. In the first pic Nida uses a phrase that revolves around the verb "動かす" (ugokasu), which translates to "moving" something.In Japanese, ugokasu carries an inherent double meaning. Metaphorically, it means to manage, direct, or run an organization (acting as the driving force or the boss). Literally, it means to physically operate or pilot a machine. Nida is proudly stating that he will become the man who "moves" the Garden. In his mind, he is declaring his ambition to eventually replace Cid as Headmaster, but the script is winking at the player because he is destined to literally pilot the building once it is able to take flight in the second Disc 2.The official English localization instead went with:>"(I'll be the ruler of this Garden someday!)" It captures his administrative ambition but completely kills the mechanical pun. To localize this in a way that feels completely natural to an English speaker while perfectly preserving the writer's intent, i'd go with something like:>"(I'll be at the helm of this Garden someday!)">"(I'm going to be the one steering this Garden someday!)">"(I'll be the one running this Garden someday!)"I personally like the first one best, since "At the helm" is a widely used English idiom for being the leader or director of an institution. However, it is fundamentally a nautical term for standing at the steering wheel of a ship.
>>737892373Autism is like being hard coded to annoy women, is so frustrating.
>>737908264>>737909038Reminder that Nida got Xu, one of the cutest girl in the game.
>want to replay FF8>can't bother drawing for hours, I'm not a kid anymore with so much free time>if I cheat engine myself 9999 draws I just break the game with juntions>the only winning move is not to play>remember lunatic pandora>remember that unless you known beforehand whose juntion carries over, Laguna parts are <Attack> spam hellsI literally cannot replay FF8.
>>737909767You shouldn't have cut off the red dragon because that's also a case of pottery. Ragnarok sounds like Ragunarok (Laguna) in Japanese and it looks like a red dragon
>>737890876Based antisemite.
>>737909408In case you didn't know, the amount you draw is determined by the magic stat. If you manage you GFs with that in mind pulling out 9 with each draw with 3 characters and keeping it to the more unusual spells then it's no big deal at all. For stuff like the elemental spells just refine, don't go drawing 99 Fira for everyone.I don't know how many times you've replayed already but if you're missing out on all the other things the game has to offer just because you wouldn't want to break the gameplay I think that would be stupid.Ever saw the crashed space pod with the Queen of Cards?
>>737895397They should just make 2D Final Fantasies not Octopath Elliott hd2d shit. >>737910150>saw the crashed space pod with the Queen of Cards?NTA but I never played triple triad what the fuck did I miss?
>>737910254>he never played FF8shame on you
>>737910254The game is filled with obtuse and easily missable things.One of them is that near the end of the game there is an invisible location on the map where you can find the Queen of Cards where the she came down with the escape pod from Lunar Base.It's not that big of a deal on it's own, but if you love the game it really is worth playing to see all of that out of the way stuff you never saw in that one playthrough you did a hundred years ago.
>>737910609Time for a replay
>>737911657If you haven't before already maybe consider playing the original version with a CRT filter, it really does hit different.I don't like the TV frame and curvature used here but it still gives an idea.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4EPCgydqWA&list=PLD4mDiz4N7DBX5hra8xVNshVemxw_6rf7&index=1
I will always find it funny that Balamb is backwards shithole with frogpeople jews, Galbadia is some USSR wannabe with crude technology like spider robots that crash when beaten by literal highschoolers, and meanwhile Esthar is literally a space age utopy with moon bases and combat space ships. I mean, what the fuck? How is this all in the same universe?
>>737912360sakoku is beneficial
>>737899070>Pretty sure she's 19. She graduated with 18 and was a teacher for a year.Quistis: "They told me that I failed as an instructor. Basically, that I lacked leadership qualities. I was a SeeD by the age of 15, got my instructor license at 17...It's only been a year since I got it... I wonder where I went wrong... I did my best... Are you listening?"
>>737912360Esthar felt like it was tacked on from a different game that got shelved. Low point of FF8
>>737912360If 40% of the game wasn't cut just so they could ship a product it likely would have made more sense in the world. Even then it's not hard to accept that an advanced nation that cut itself off from the world continued to advance while others stagnated or degraded.
>>737912360I mean, in lore it makes sense.Thousands of years before the game, the Centra civilization ruled the world with highly advanced magic and technology before they were wiped out by a Lunar Cry. Balamb Garden and Galbadia Garden are actually built on top of ancient, mobile Centra fallout shelters. However, Cid and NORG basically just turned the lights on and used them as school foundations. Esthar, on the other hand, aggressively excavated Centra ruins, specifically the Lunatic Pandora (the Crystal Pillar). They actively reverse-engineered the ancients' deep-magic architecture and space-faring capabilities to build their own floating cities and the Ragnarok fleet.Then you've Dr. Odine. He is essentially the Einstein, Oppenheimer, and Steve Jobs of the FF8 universe rolled into one. He is the first and only scientist to figure out how to analyze, quantify, and artificially replicate a Sorceress's magic, creating "Para-Magic." Esthar gave Odine a blank check and unlimited resources. While Galbadia was building crude, mechanical spider-tanks (the X-ATM092), Odine was inventing the Junction System, artificial magic casting, gravity-defying architecture, and spacecraft. Because Esthar kept Odine strictly within their borders, the rest of the world never got access to his blueprints.And at the end of the Sorceress War, after Laguna launched Sorceress Adel into space, Esthar made a radical geopolitical decision: they completely sealed their borders. They built a massive optical camouflage shield over their entire continent and cut off all trade, travel, and communication with the outside world. While Galbadia, Balamb, and Trabia spent the next 17 years recovering from a devastating global conflict and rebuilding their basic infrastructures, Esthar experienced two decades of uninterrupted, highly funded, utopian scientific progress under President Laguna. Esthar didn't just advance their own technology, either; they actively suppressed everyone else's.
>>737913194That's the other thing. To cover up their activities (and keep Adel locked in space), Esthar began broadcasting a massive, planetary radio jamming signal. This global interference completely crippled the outside world's ability to communicate over long distances. TV, radio, and the internet were basically rendered useless outside of localized hard-wired cities. Without global communication, the other nations couldn't share scientific data or collaborate on technological advancements, leaving them stuck in a relative dark age.There's a reason Galbadia hated Esthar so much.
>>737913605You really need to stop making these broad confident claims and statements like this or fix however you're producing these blocks of text. The radio interference is generally understood to be Adel herself because of being locked up, or at least an unfortunate side effect of her prison installation, not a deliberate Esthar act. Even the wiki will tell you how after Adel's tomb get destroyed Esthar immediately starts using radio which is how they pick up on Squall and Rinoa in the Ragnarok.If this happens with more obscure stuff, then fine, but virtually everyone knows about the 'I AM ALIVE HERE BRING ME BACK THERE' in the radio signal, as seen through that one media screen.
>>737912360I thought Galbadia was Canada because it has a hockey team
>>737914323I still think it was Esthar's doing. They cut themselves from the world, it stands to reason they'd cut off any possible means of communication as well.
>>737909767Seifer emulating Laguna was a cool lore detail, but the way he's actually handled as a character was so shit. Making him a jobber didn't help either
>>737914513was he really a jobber i mean everyone loses to the main party, who did he job to
>>737914576More the fact that he's laughably easy to beat, even if you didn't break the game
>>737914446The anon is right. Adel's tomb had a high-tech device specifically used to confine Sorceress Adel and weaken her power. However, the technology required to keep a Sorceress of her magnitude in stasis had an overwhelming effect, becoming the main cause of radio interference on the planet. The tomb orbiting the planet directly interfered with radio waves and filled all frequencies with noise.
>>737914576Who did he beat outside Odin?
>>737914446And you're free to posit your theory, I'd even be glad to hear which things seen in game would contribute to that idea, but don't just go presenting walls of information under an apparent guise of accurate authority when you have basic things like that which can be reasonably considered completely unfounded by someone with even casual knowledge of the game.
>>737910609You can also find Piett there so the only Triple Triad card you have to win in space is Laguna's from Ellone. That's good because Lunar rules suck and while Piett also plays by Lunar rules, at least at the crash site you can manipulate the RNG to guarantee that you delete random
So, is Ultimecia not bad future Rinoa? Then what the fuck is Ultimecia and why does she want to compress time?
>>737914413USSR also had a hockey team and the team is called the Bears, a traditional Russian symbol
>>737915083no one who believes or likes the stupid rinoa theory has ever touched the game, i refuse to believe it
>>737909038why the fuck can't we get localizers like this anon?
>>737915083if rinoa lived thousands of years without her beloved squall she'll go crazy
>>737915357I touched the game several times, and i believe it. You can easily check Japanese websites and see that most FF fans that is into FF8 believe it. It is a super popular fan theory there.
>>737914513>>737914576>>737914873The game even acknowledges he's fighting your party 1v3 presumably with no GF
>>737890914Quistis is one of the youngest characters in FF8 she is known from being a young prodigy that got to become a teacher super early in her teens.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWiIpBCP7-E>>>/mu/130064740
>>737915357I like FFVIII but ultimecia is such an underdeveloped nothing antagonist that you can't blame people for grasping at straws for ANYTHING to make her interesting
>>737915083The explanation I heard was that her destruction was predestined, and she knew this. She attempted to compress time because she's the only one who can live in those conditions, but in doing so, set in motion her own defeat.
>>737915530Seifer seems to have never used a GF.Sometimes i wonder if the reason Seifer is so pissed at Squall is because he forgot their friendship. He also doesn't respect Cid, probably because Cid is pushing for GF usage.
>>737890876This LITERALLY smells like trannylation, what is the original script? At this point how many JRPG's need a retranslation?
>>737915580>but ultimecia is such an underdeveloped nothing antagonist that you can't blame people for grasping at straws for ANYTHING to make her interestingHer feet are interesting
>>737915580I like Ultimecia as a sort of tragic villain in the sense she never had a chance of winning because she'd already been defeated by Squall before she was even born and FF8 is world where you can't change the past with time travel.
wtf squall was based all along?
>>737915721All of them basically. Most fan translations even.
>>737915397he doesnt fill the tranny quota
>>737915164That makes more sense
>>737915083Imagine being the last white man on Earth and people are still blaming you for shit that happened 1000 years ago.
>>737915721Original Japanese:>スコール: 「だったら壁にでも話していろよ」The literal translation:Squall: "Dattara (If that's the case), kabe ni demo (to a wall, or something), hanashite iro yo (be talking / go talk)."The official English localization ("Then go talk to a wall") is honestly a perfect localization here. The Japanese phrase "壁にでも話していろ" relies on the exact same imagery we use in English. That is: treating someone like a literal, inanimate sounding board. Squall's use of "~ていろよ" (-te iro yo) is a blunt, dismissive command. He is entirely rejecting the emotional burden of being a listener.As an adendo, with the Rinoa part here >>737899680, i feel the translation requires a bit more finessing to capture the sheer heartbreak and irony of the moment. >スコール: (これじゃあ壁に話しているのと同じだ)The official English localization translates his inner thought as: "(This is like talking to a wall.)" While that is accurate, i think translating it as "(This is no different than talking to a wall)" or "(At this point, I might as well be talking to a wall)" drives the karmic irony home a bit harder.But either way those two scenes were handled well by the localizers.
>>737912360>>737913417As always anon, FACISM AND GERMAN ENGINEERING IS THE GREATEST
>>737915083So Final Fantasy 8 was based on the Wizard of Oz. Dorothy became Rinoa, and Ultimecia is the Wicked witch of the West and Esther was going to be emerald city but they changed it blue. Its weirdly subtle and I didnt notice it till it was pointed out so there's probably more weirder smaller shit. The wicked witch was defeated by water (Squall, Rain, Laguna) Maybe the lion shit is from the cowardly lion. Beta FF8 map concept art had the yellow brick road which I think was train tracks. Only the witches and esther and yellow brick road were confirmed officially. And the fact that it did inspire them.
Ultimecia is probabaly still underdeveloped but when you realize she is possessing edea most of the game at least she isnt as bad as Necron in 9 and didnt come out of nowhere.
>>737915618That's an interesting idea.But if we're looking at just their regular Garden life (not the 'I'm going to torture you for my mistress' phase), Seifer isn't really more of an asshole to Squall than he is to anyone else is he?Going so far with their gunblade battle as to nearly kill Squall would be a strong example, but him just traipsing through an active warzone suggests that he's not that interested in anyone's safety in any case.He maybe targets Squall more frequently, which would be attributed to their shared history, but he's generally equally assholish when dealing with anyone in my mind.To borrow the terms, I feel like he's the chaotic version of the same attitude that Squall does lawful. They want to just live life their own way and not be beholden to anyone, so for Seifer the rules and control exerted by Cid and Garden are the problem and not so much things like GF usage.
>>737916470Here's the map. Don't forget that Laguna functionally acts as the the titular Wizard of Oz in the game.
>>737892373bruh
>>737915725>turns into a lion man/woman because Squall is a fucking chuuni retard who wants to fuck LionsI know that a lot of the Ultimecia is actually Rinoa stuff comes from anons interpreting artistic choices as deliberate story telling bits rather than either re-used animation or whatever was going on in the director's heads, but it's funny to imagine that in some alternate world Rinoa had to listen to Squall rant about Lions for so long that she just sort of internalized it
>>737916534I might be stretching it but the map reminds me of Oz' map where it has places based on the 4cardinal ddirections with the most important place in the center. (But it got destroyed in FF8)
>>737916527I have to disagree, anon. Seifer actually cares a lot about others around him. For example, in the Ultimania texts by Nojima, there’s one dedicated to Seifer’s point of view that explains why he decided to give himself up. Just hang on a moment, I’ll grab the original Ultimania page from ExHentai (since it’s oddly not available anywhere else) and try to translate it for you.
>>737890971Quistis ≠ Selphie >>>>>>> Rinoa
>>737892373I feel so bad for you anon.
>>737916534Man, FF8 has so much fascinating shit in the setting that mostly was never used now that I think about it. I guess ultimately, it never mattered as at it's core FF8 was an exploration of attachments and human emotion rather than an autistic setting deepdive (like FF13)
>>737916767I want Nojima to just fucking tell us everything they didn't use. They're not going to make a fucking FFVIII-2
>>737916512>she isnt as bad as Necron in 9 and didnt come out of nowhereNecron is at least the physical incarnation of the themes the game deals with for its entire run time.Yeah, Death going "put up your dukes, you gay pussies" and challenging you to a fight for your right to exist sounds like a WTF, but I can buy it. The crystal that sustains life broke, some weird shit is bound to happen.Plus, literally defeating the end of existence, accepting that life is finite but still worth living, is kino.Ultimecia has none of that going for her. She's just some broad with cleavage.
>>737898449Rinoa could’ve been the stepping stone while Selphie is the End Goal.
>>737916659Well, I know one other example in the general idea that he ends up in Galbadia because he breaks out of confinement, where it is thought to be because he isn't happy with the suicidal mission the protagonists were ordered to do.It's not so much that he doesn't care at all, just that it's not of particular concern at any given point, which just makes it so the gunblade slice isn't an example of Seifer having it out for Squal in particular.I mean we're already contorting what it means to care if you're slicing someone's head open.
squall is fucking dead, or close to dying after what happens at the end of disc 1. the other 3 discs take place in his dreams and only get more deranged as time goes on. no one can convince me otherwise
>>737906529Unfortunately, people don't come pre-equipped with a fully developed frontal lobe. Hence the Holdens and Squalls of the world.
>>737890876this looks crisp and clear, which version of FFVIII is this?
>>737917036Also, Ash is in a coma and Ben drowned.
>>737916636there is 100% a relation between rinoa and ultimecia but idk if they are the same person, probably not but they should be. Ultimecia should be the Rinoa of the bad ending where Squall Liondong fails to grab her in space. FF8 is the game that needed the remake because the story is nonsensical slop.
>Gravity attacksHonestly the coolest shit ever.
>>737917284ultimecia should be rinoa bad ending for breaking up with seifer
>>737917387Sifer was a douchebag man
>>737917428rinoa and seifer deserve each other
>>737916881>I want Nojima to just fucking tell us everything they didn't use.Wait for the 8 remaster next millennia.>>737916889nta but>game tries to beat you over the head that sorceresses are a calamity waiting to happenI guess it's fitting, compared to fighting God randomly
>>737917527cück mentality
>>737916917I never really understood Selphie's Limit break. It usually just seemed to say I could cast random garbage spells like 3 times.
>>737917370so cool they're useless in any encounters where they'd actually matter
>>737917675quiet
>>737895103>down a whiskey and masturbate while Rinoa cooks dinner and complains in the kitchenStop projecting, its weird. Nobody drinks anymore unc. Drinking was never cool.
>>737899165I installed this mod. They look much better imo
>>737917635I think she's like the Cait from FF7
>>737917786forgot pic
>>737917635What's to understand, she's happy-go-lucky so you can play slots for all sorts of effects, going all the way up to giving the boss a game over screen.
>>737917831
>>737890876What an emo git
>>737916659>>737916527Here is a translation of Seifer's inner monologue from the Ultimania."The Day My Boyhood Ended">The Sorceress came for me.>That is why I have to bid farewell. To the days spent at Garden. To the days I was allowed to be a boy-->I always intended to do it, eventually. I just... wanted to stay like this a little longer--running wild, doing whatever I pleased. Pulling that reckless stunt during the SeeD exam... maybe I did it because I sensed that passing meant I’d have to change. I was putting this day off.>But I can't go back anymore.>It all started when Rinoa’s request went through. Hearing that Headmaster Cid--that sly old bastard--dispatched exactly three freshly minted rookie SeeDs of all people, I couldn’t just sit still. With only Squall, the chicken-wuss, and that messenger girl from the exam as backup, Rinoa's plan to kidnap the Galbadian President didn't stand a chance.>Rinoa had gone out of her way to rely on me... Thinking about that made my blood boil. By the time I came to my senses, I had broken out of the disciplinary room and was heading for Timber.>Storming the TV station and taking President Deling hostage--up to that point, I’d done a perfect job. But then Squall and his squad rushed in and screwed it up. Zell, that loudmouth chicken-wuss, just had to blab and expose who we were right in front of Deling.>If I laid a hand on Deling, Garden would be crushed by the Galbadian army. If I let him go, I’d be arrested on the spot and executed as a criminal who plotted the President's assassination. Being trapped with nowhere to turn... this is what it means. I had sprinted headfirst into a dead end with no way back.>Amidst the despair and confusion, only one hand reached out to me: the Sorceress's.>And so, I grabbed it.>Parting with my boyhood, as the price of our contract--
>>737900614Pedophilia, thats how they do it in Rural Alabamabased
>>737917605>he self-inserts and actually likes rinoalmao
>>737918273Squall is literally me. You won't understand me.Whatever.
>>737917635She had the best oneJust reset the box by backing out until you get raptureLiterally an angel <3
>>737903431No, Sensei is canonically dependent on your choice as a player.
I'd pay $200 for a FF8 Remake made by Sandfall Interactive
>>737915725You had several moments in the game where Rinoa use the lion-engraved ring as an emotional anchor, and up to something like three texts written by Nojima for the official Ultimania guide all showing just how goddamn much Rinoa wants to be more like a lion, maybe even moreso than Squall. Not to mention that the bosses themes are all titled after phrases that Rinoa used in-game or in the Ultimania pages to describe this ideal lion. I don't know, man. Feels like the game is trying to tell us something.
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>>737918235My favorite is the one about Irvine."What I Can Do">I always think to myself.>The idea that life holds infinite possibilities... is a lie. That the exact choices you want will neatly appear, and in the end, the very result you wished for is waiting->Things like that simply don't happen.>But still, there are countless times when we have to choose our path. Even if every road laid out before us is one we never wanted, the one who has to pick the best possible option among them is, in the end, ourselves.>It is exactly because I made those choices that I am here right now, with my friends. So, no matter what awaits at the end of the things I've decided, at the end of the path I've determined, I want to stand and face it. I want to cherish the life that my own choices have spun together. I want to hold my head high and say I wasn't just swept along by the current.>The enemy we must fight is Sorceress Edea. The one who buried President Deling and became the new dictator ruling Galbadia-but, I know the truth. I know that I... no, that we... once called her “Mother.”>She was so kind, and beautiful... our “Matron.” We all loved her so much. How that Matron became the Sorceress Edea, I have no idea. But, as long as she stands as our enemy, we have to fight.>Everyone had completely forgotten. About our childhood... about Matron, and the memories of the time we spent together. The side effect of junctioning G.F.s into our minds. The price of power. Maybe Headmaster Cid thought it was better that way-that it would make us happier-and that’s why he allowed us to use them.>...But still, I feel like everyone needs to know. That the enemy we are fighting is Matron. They might agonize over it, and the pain might make them want to turn away. But, thinking it through yourself, and making the choice to fight on your own... that is what will surely become your strength. I believe that.>That is why I will fight. To protect Selphie, Squall, and everyone else-
>>737918235>parting with my boyhoodWhat did this mean exactly? Like turning adult, being a jaded cunt instead of a more naive and innocent guy like Squall or Zell, or other implications?
>>737918569Shame there's no Griever GF (although I know Ultimecia basically made it herself). I like to imagine she's junctioning some version of Squall
>>737919257Should have been the reward for killing Omega
>mfw no GF
What is FF7R? A KH-like?
I wish they'd make a Moguri mod equivalent for FF8
>>737919449This nigga is gay, 100000%My instincts do not lie.
>>737919587Your mind is auto completing the rest of his body to be naked and only gays wear cowboy hats while naked. If he was clearly wearing clothes then he wouldn't look as gay
>>737919839It was his smile that was my tell along with the the hair, if he had wavy hair but a stright neutral face, then he would be taken seriously. But he gives off that faggy look that you can tell he might be bi type of fag. He probably hates women though, that kind of fag.
>>737912360>Esthar was originally going to be emerald colored as an homage to The Wizard of Oz but was changed because the art director really liked the iMac G3
>>737900059Moombas are so cool
>>737903597He looks so badass every second of this clip, the moments he leaps, slashes, and drives the car.
>>737900064He uses they/them pronouns because his personality changes depending on which school he is interacting with, giving him as many personalities as there are schools.
>>737890876Anybody else remember The GIA's first preview of this game back in the day? Based on the concept art of Squall and Laguna, they ran a story about how they were Square's first gay couple. This was in the early interw3bz in the 90s. Not even joking.
It's all fun and games until the Bitch of Cards brings the doom of RANDOM rule to town.
>tfw no GF
>>737890876The more you reject a woman, the more she wants you.
>>737919209The story is about the loss of childhood and innocence, or perhaps about sacrificing it.For example during the Laguna dream sequences, Laguna finds himself recovering in the quiet, rural village of Winhill after being severely injured in the Esthar conflict. He is taken in by Raine, who runs the local pub/eatery out of her home. If you pay attention to the environment in Winhill, and specifically talk to the NPCs and examine the pub, you learn the story behind the decor:Winhill is a town composed largely of people whose lives were shattered by the Sorceress War. It is full of grieving widows, orphans (like Ellone), and traumatized soldiers. Because the town was drowning in grief, the locals and veterans would come to Raine's pub to drink their sorrows away. This resulted in the pub constantly being cluttered with empty alcohol bottles, a depressing, visual reminder of the town's collective trauma and stagnation.Instead of letting her home become a gloomy den of despair, Raine took those empty liquor bottles, washed them out, and repurposed them as vases for the flowers she grew. I always loved this symbolism in the game, which is why i'll always feel bad about the development team not being able to fulfill their plans of expanding the game to add the Laguna's half.
>>737906678Suddenly I’m in the mood for Hotdogs
>>737916742You don't even know this girl and you feel bad for him stop being a desperate simp
>>737909408Play Cards and Card Mod anon
>>737919449>>737921479duality of man
>>737921751It's supposed to be bread.
>>737921414*looks at a pile of magazines repeatedly**warps space and time to suddenly appear in another place and another time**repeatedly challenges a person to cards before backing out*Your move o Queen of the Cards
>>737915397anon, the translators had to dump the game's text via motherfucking gameshark. that's how dire things were at the time. the translation was a rushjob too, so it's not like they were given ample time to polish it up
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>>737890876She complaining about her problems to Squall, her student, that's really rude.Squall's reaction of "rude" avoidance should not surprise you if you were just a little bit familiar with Japanese culture and social norms."Meiwaku" is what she is doing if you don't know about it, she's burdening him with her problems.
>>737912360>How is this all in the same universe?It’s a Final Fantasy you could say
>>737922059Whatever
>>737915397The best paying translation jobs are doing high level technical specifications and legal documents, where accuracy is extremely important. The best translators aren't working on media projects.
>>737895217She wasn't abusing his time, spending time with your senior after work hours is normal and expected of the junior.Complaining about her personal problems to him, however, is not normal.
>>737914413Always found this part cool
>>737915721The translation of FF7 is notoriously so bad that many dialogues are intelligible and full of typos.It get better going forward, but still, there is a loss of subtlety and reading between the lines, the translation come as dry and blunt most of the time.
>>737915725I’d let her scratch me with those Talon Nails
>>737922318>Go get changed and meet me in front of the [training center]. This will be my last order.
>>737916512Based, why does FF9 seem so underwhelming after FF8?
>>737920732The music in 8 is amongst the best of Final Fantasy
>>737922059What does this mean in Japanese? Is it all actually whatever?
>>737922790>going from three games of straight magitech and more modern/semi-modern fantasy than high fantasy>swap back to high fantasy (with aliens)I'd also say Zidane is a bit one-dimensional, barring Vivi all the cast of 9 comes across like they basically have one personality trait no surprise Vivi ended up one of the most popular characters
>>737922642It would certainly be perceived has abuse of power from a western perspective but it's not from a Japanese one.In this case, Squall refusing would be what would be considered rude.Despite being annoyed by it, he follow her because it's socially expected of him to do it.What break the camel's back is when she start venting to him about her feelings and problems, now she is the one being rude by breaking social norms, which give him the right to respond bluntly and bail out of the uncomfortable situation.You get it? That kind of subtext fly over the head of the western audience because they are not familiar with the Japanese social normal and the translation doesn't help them understand what is going on, it make Squall sounds like an asshole but in reality it's Quistis who is being inconsiderate.
>>737922873only the last one
>>737919587>>737919908Irvine was inspired by Brad Pitt, more specifically his role in Thelma & Louise (1991). Same with Squall and River Phoenix (specifically his look in the movie My Own Private Idaho).
>>737917831I need Remake Selphie in my life
>>737922873That's not the actual english translation, just so you know
>>737890876women love when guys do shit like this and I don't get it
>>737923216women love cats
>>737923009She issued an order. Squall was only capable of discerning that it was an illegal order once she started trauma dumping on him. The scene is the same in both cultures.
>>737922095Hot, soulful and nostalgic
>>737923216A girl's image of a man is formed by observing her dad (or lack thereof). A boy's image of a woman is formed by observing his mom. Both of these are responsible for the continued deterioration of America.
>>737923110Damn, it's almost an entirely different conversation. It's still a cute bit of flirting I guess, but it's not quite the same meaning.>>737923193Ah ok, thanks
>>737922976He really is the only the good thing about FF9 so much so that he got to be in Kingdom Hearts 2 along with Seifer, Fujin, Raijin and Setzer.
>>737923621fuujinchads they did us fucking DIRTY
>>737923315Look man, I'm not going to spend hours here to explain to you every single subtlety of Japanese social norms and hold your hand as you read my replies.A Japanese and a Westerner reading the same scene will understand it differently because of differences in social norms.A Western will most likely think that Squall is inconsiderate, cold, and an asshole while a Japanese will understand that Quistis is overstepping the line because of her venting to a random student, which make her rude and inconsiderate (by burdening Squall with her problems).Break of protocols are acceptable in certain conditions, evidenced by the fact that the faculty is aware of student sneaking in the training center after the celebration and let it slide.That translation >>737923110 started great, because it convey to the western reader what is being implied (Japs are very avoidant with feelings and declaration of love/attachment), but the translation went into the shitter real quick with the quirky teenager bullshit after the second message.
>>737923384Freud pls
>>737923998Why do you think so many guys want fat bitches now?
>>737924043Because they fell for the BBW psyop that's been happening since the 60s or so. That's only barely a joke btw.
>>73792404313%
>>737923621He's really got it all anon, I felt so sad for him at times.>>737923998NTA but he does speak some elements of the truth. Lazy parenting has really resulted in a lot of maladapted or kind of retarded Americans who either have no standards, no backbone, or insane standards. There's really no middle ground anymore, and a lot of younger adults aren't having sex or dating anyway since it's become a hassle to interact (no doubt due to retarded expectations)>Bitches see dads settling for objectively washed up women>Men see fat bitches getting attention they probably don't deserve or some rich chad getting all the womenAmerica needs a complete culling of influencers I think
>>737921978what the fuck do you think hotdogs are made of?
Gunblades ruined me
>>737890876My theory is that Squall immediately got turned off by Quistis when he saw her in the pants and boots combo
>>737912360The sorceress war was really fucking bad. It split the nations apart and killed most of an entire generation, which is why there are so many kids / orphans doing the work of adults and being in what are essentially private militaries.
>>737915721FFVIII has a good translation, retard-kun.
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>>737925624Eh, she gets a pass on the fashion faux-pas. I mean, her entire outfit is a bit of a disaster.
Yes she is young in the storyline but the glasses made her seem 40 in the video game back in the day
>>737925815No, it hasn't.FF8 is a game full of foreshadowing, double-meaning, parallelism, and so on. The localization missed those things completely.
I have to say, it was pretty baller how she came to Squall's rescue on a machine gun mounted turret if you couldn't defeat that bot in Dollet
>>737918569>Feels like the game is trying to tell us something.Maybe she's a lion
>>737921685I'm having a shitty day and this made me tear up for some reason. I had no idea about any of this except that everything was fucked from the war.
What's up with Nomura and the late actor River Phoenix? As was pointed out in the thread, Nomura explicitly modeled Squall's face and vibe on River Phoenix (apparently from My Own Private Idaho, the 1991 movie). But there is another Nomura's character based on the actor. The core theme of Final Fantasy XV is the brotherhood of four boys on a road trip, marking the final days of their youth before they are crushed by the responsibilities of adulthood and war. The game uses Florence + The Machine’s cover of "Stand By Me" as its main theme. Stand By Me is, of course, the iconic 1986 film starring a young River Phoenix about four boys going on a journey that ultimately ends their childhood innocence. The characters in both the game and the movie share visual similarities.Through Squall and Noctis, Nomura is constantly using River Phoenix as a muse, not only that but also exploring the melancholy of boys who are forced to grow up too fast, mourning a boyhood they are actively losing. Then you add Sora and Yozora, and it just feels weird.But why this actor? Was he big on Japan?
>>737927787he gay
>>737917718you are a massive fag.
>>737917718You are not a Christian.
>>737927816Well, i searched around and apparently Japan during the 90s were utterly in love with this dude and legit mourned his passing. I guess Nomura was deeply affected.
>>737927787The image you shared is one of the most famous examples of this muse effect in Japan.When Akimi Yoshida first started drawing Banana Fish in 1985, the protagonist, Ash Lynx, was visually modeled after Swedish tennis player Stefan Edberg. However, in 1986, Yoshida watched the movie The Mosquito Coast (and later Stand By Me) and became so captivated by River Phoenix that she literally changed the art style of her manga halfway through its publication. Ash Lynx’s face, hair, and physique gradually morphed until he was an exact 1-to-1 illustration of River Phoenix. Ash's personality, a terrifyingly lethal street gang leader who is secretly a deeply traumatized, highly intelligent boy just looking for a safe place to rest, is essentially River Phoenix's acting career distilled into a manga character. He only took on roles like that during his brief life.A director from one of the actor's movies even noted that when they visited Japan in 1992, teenagers were chasing River through the neon streets of Tokyo and OsakaWhen River died in 1993, Yoshida was reportedly so devastated that she briefly considered changing the planned ending of Banana Fish because she didn't want her fictional story to mirror the real-life tragedy of her muse.
>>737897423Why is he holding a Pikmin?
>>737913417>Because Esthar kept Odine strictly within their borders, the rest of the world never got access to his blueprints.what about balamb garden? they junction GF and use para magic
>>737930630The game and Ultimania tells us that Cid and Edea helped Odine develop all the GF related stuff.
>>737895103I'm 35 with 2 kids and that already happens to me now lmao
>>737922976Zidane is not a pervert. He is a gentleman thief and a pimp
>>737890876Why did he choose used goods Rinoa over pure virgin Quisitis?
>>737894709cute tsundere
>>737899894Gonna boss baby this shit and say this reminds me more of Toriyama compared to what we got which feels like it should sue early 2000s frutiger aero.
>>737922095I hate the train sequence because I was playing on the PC release and for whatever reason something going on in the train made it run at 1 fps a minute. So I have that shit etched into my brain.
I love FF8, the plot, the atmosphere, the art, the soundtrack, everything. In hindsight, it kinda distances itself from everything in the series in a way that I can't quite put into words, dunno why if it's why it looks and feels so interesting to me. It has less japanese fantasy weirdness perhaps? It's kinda westernized but not too much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=848qqMUCc1E
>>737923670I liked how squall's aerial circle thing actively cancelled magic attacks in dissidia. He was already pretty good but it's fun as fuck to just hard-counter a few of the more shooty magic characters.
>had that dream again where I was a billionaire and bought my way into remaking FF8 and fixed everything while adding all these beautiful autistically intricate flourishes to all the characters, deepening their stories, fleshing them out further, refining the weak spots, and fixing all the gameplay with all the wishing and speculation of a lifetime finally coming to fruition>wake up>realize this will never happen and there is no good creative outlet outside of the random chance of dreams I could write a whole gay fanfic about the things I wanted to add, lots of character development that fits perfectly...I even fixed the game systems like making Draw a once per battle per chara type thing that doesn't take up a junction slot to preempt morons screeching, added lots of sources of magic and vendor interactions and...and...well it doesn't matter.
>>737935139>School trip somewhere, I don't even fucking remember where.>Girl randomly asks me for a walk around outside.>We sit outside in a park on a warm summer night.>She starts talking about herself.>Somehow maneuver the conversation towards myself and my problems.>She's polite and supportive and we go back inside.aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>737917527>meanwhile in realityhysterical Seifer fags think he wasn't evil or that he gets away in the end totally free
>>737935213It was always too late
>>737890876>pick all the asshole responses>every character bends over backwards to pretend Squall isn't an unlikeable prick>Squall does a complete 180 in the latter half and goes Rinoa crazyI thought it sucked.
>>737909408>>remember that unless you known beforehand whose juntion carries over, Laguna parts are <Attack> spam hellsthe game copies the junctions of your party and anyway you can always just rejunction, it's very quick if you use the auto feature, you're bitching about nothingalso>drawing for hoursanon...I hate to tell you this but you're low IQ, no one actually did this who wasn't retarded because card mod refinement was so incredibly strong and superior not to mention the game is easy and the idea you need maxed junctions is comical
>>737917831I will rape you to death with a bowie knife.
>>737916419thank you for this post nonny
>>737935321He wasn't evil. He was severely deluded and decided to double down as he got in too deep. But being a foil to Squall, he was handled poorly, especially towards the end.
>>737935452I think they were going for a child soldier turned into a cold, ruthless killing machine type of character like solid snake, someone who is psychologically damaged and on the brink of turning into a bad guy, but squall ended up being received as some angry emo kid from chinese shonen cartoons. I think they needed a part of the story early on where they set him up correctly, part where they show him being forced to do something uncomfortable and cruel, as people usually do in wars, this whole tone and story about child soldiers ended up being goofy and should be changed if they decide to do a remake. another example of a similar character type is raiden from mgs2, I didn't buy into his backstory because he was portrayed as a total faggot. revengeance fixed that.
>>737916512Kuja is the big bad of 9, Necron's just a chaos monster Square threw in for old times sake.
>>737936185obligatory kill the god thrope. lolbut as a personification of nihilism, he does fit perfectly into the story themes of existentialism (will to live being stronger than the fear of death) and fighting fate in the world where everything is already determined and characters know that. kuja is just a part of the larger tapestry, like vivi, zidane and others. zidane staying behind to save kuja and vivi dying young after they "save the world" is them spelling it out for you if you didn't get it initially.
last summer i replayed this game after a long time, due to being bedridden after breaking my foot.I always rated it as one of the weaker FFs but I had a shitton of fun, it's actually one of the better ones, despite the convoluted bullshit junction system (which is easy af to break).
If they are going to give Rebirth treatment to a FF after VII to someone then it's gotta be this, right?
>>737935378>on dreamcast's release daywhat a dick move
>>737917718none of you do anything anymore, you don't even throw parties
>>737935321I don't care if it's nostalgia this bit is always still extremely gangster to me. Also sorry it's remastered shit. https://youtu.be/SofLe1hzFLE?si=_Y06VLNqnWJr7HAH&t=150
