Is Lorien among the GOAT video game composers?
I'd say so, yes. Top 3 with Nobuo Uematsu and Keiichi Okabe.
>>737899639Unbelievable strong debut from him. I'm eagerly waiting for the next game he makes music for.
Nah, he's just the greatest of all time bar none.
>>737899639he is, undoubtedly. your thread is going to imminently go to shit due to contrarians by the way
>>737899639>ai generated shit with random frech wordsfor those who cum after!!
>>737899639he made the same song 3 times lmao
>>737901312If it's a great song I dont mind lol
>>737901312Are you referring to the use of leitmotifs
>>737899639Exceptional first outing, genuinely. I'd probably want to hear a little more from him before I put him on the GOAT list, but he's absolutely well on his way.
>>737899639no
>>737902304He already made 4 hours of OST, it's more than other composers entire careers
Depends entirely on how well he can follow up his own act, that's the real question for Sandfall in general.
>>737902373Isn't it like 8 hours + DLC?
>>737899639I can't give someone a GOAT title after just one game, but if he makes another OST as good as E33's he's definitely in contention.
>>737902432Thats actually true, pretty crazy
>they're still glazing, shilling and overratinggrim
>>737899639Time will tell if he put everything in a single project or if he has more.
>>737902521I'll sometimes run into some great song of his and wonder how it's not more popular. And then I'll remember there are more than 150 songs in the OST. The fucking madman.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onye9eKR27M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ifda9gZuGg
>>737902756Great Witcher feel
>>737902741Oh yeah, on top of the 8 hour soundtrack and the DLC, there are also songs he just didn't put in the OST for whatever reason.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aMIr6KI0XcPlus apparently he has a whole folder full of unused songs, Guillaume had to force Lorien to include https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeFkb3LsmlQ because he didn't think it was good enough to put in the game.
>>737902756>>737902870Was just about to say. Witcher vibes, with a hint of samurai.
>>737902928Flying Waters - Goblu is like top 3 material, I can't believe it almost didn't make it into the game
>>737899639He's the Yasunori Mitsuda of France, and as such has already peaked.
>>737902928> Guillaume had to force Lorien to include [YouTube] Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 (Original Soundtrack) 29 - Flying Waters - Goblu (embed) because he didn't think it was good enough to put in the game.Are you sure he wasn't talking about Rain from the Ground? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wYHLgLYQlU
>>737901312Oh man wait until you learn how much Uematsu loved leitmotifs
>>737903129Shit, I think you're right. I remember it was some Flying Water song, I must've remembered which one.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lBJOSG8ltEY&list=RDlBJOSG8ltEY&start_radio=1The version of Renoir's theme with no vocals is literally top 3 vidya OST of all time
>>737899639>vocalsno
>>737903129>>737903293Wait no, it WAS Goblu after allhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oKM2TjBaqU
How 'Paintress' isn't rated as highly as 'Une vie à t'aimer' or even higher is beyond me. What a trackhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVIVOoeocMY
>>737899639I’m from Israel and he is my favorite composer
>>737899639The goat. Not one of.
>>737903467Read Doctor Faustus by Thomas Mann. I used to hate vocals too until I read that book.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyeOPfg_6FE
>>737899639lolno
>>737903562It's just not that unique, i prefer this one over paintresshttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p3WHa1gDNQM&pp=ygUbRXhwZWRpdGlvbiAzMyByZWFjaGVyIHRoZW1l0gcJCVACo7VqN5tD
>>737903492And the motherfucker almost discarded the Lampmaster, one of my favouriteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Mp-ahAudg
>>737899639i showed my friend who grew up playing games composed by nobuo uematsu and yasunori mitsuda this song saying i liked listening to it while flying around the maphttps://youtu.be/K8Tikj_0Cqwand he clowned on it saying it was bargain bin evanescence, and upon further inspection of the ost he remarked that proper video game music has been dead for a long time.
>>737903129Love this one.
>>737899639Chatgpt music for a chatgpt made game.
>>737903875Uematsu isnt really that amazing of a composer, retards just cant into any aspect of music other than the melody and you cant ignore the melodies in his songs
>>737904013>Uematsu isnt really that amazing of a composerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6UgxJtHIVY
>>737903875Low iq people love calling things dead because they have no taste for new talent or are too retarded to find it
>>737904013>Uematsu isnt really that amazing of a composerwtf? he remains undethroned to this day, not even his proteges can succeed his works.
>>737903023>>737902870it sounds like a mix between Blood on the Cobblestones and Silver for MonstersBlood on the Cobblestones and Fields of Ard Skellig are the best of W3 OST don't @ me
>>737904086Bowser castle sounding ahh tune
A lot of the songs blend together for me, but the few that stand out are great. And with such a long OST, that's still a good number. Having so many unique battle tracks alone also made encounters stay fresh. I dunno why it's thought that one single battle theme and a couple boss themes are enough. They get old even if they're good tracks.
>>737904086me at 1:23
>>737904226https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFavxCmZbjg>>737904330This. I love Bravely Default, both the main battle theme and boss battle theme are great, but it just gets tedious when the game is 50+ hours long.
i mean clair obscur had awesome soundtrack that consist of 180 or something track, like some AAA final fantasy game, or something another big. new theme for each area, new battle theme for each area, for each boss, and so onbut Lorien put everything he had this years, this is literally work of his life. Like Uematsu's ff8, or Soken's Stormblood-Shadowbringers. there won't be ex33-2 and there won't be another such good ost. you need to milk some another frenchman to do this.
>>737904086>compose the world's most okayish prog rock song>gamer retards praise it as the best thing ever
>>737904330>I dunno why it's thought that one single battle theme and a couple boss themes are enough.It's weird. Although old JRPGs are repetitive slop for the most part anyways.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxuatJLlq0I
>>737903434>with no vocals
Wheeee https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VSKWG0YCTzk
>>737899639Literally one decent tune in the game, the rest is homosexual french jazz bar blacked music
>>737904856>thread about music>anon has to mention homosexuals and blackedgays and black cocks on your mind I see
>>737904965>Lashing out at anon because you're a homosexual black cock lover who feels called outStick to talking about the game fag
>>737899639No. He's good but there are plenty better.>>737904013" and you cant ignore the melodies in his songs" Making memorable melodies is probably one of the hardest things as a composer. Uematsu at his best is probably one of the most skilled melodists of all time, especially in gaming. He may not have super flowery orchestration and arrangement but he doesn't really need it because his melodies are so strong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsHCYQzhf7shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veKm93LJ130https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGm6hpnkeUU
>>737904803kino of the highest order
>>737905216You can make do with a shitty melody, and even create a masterpiece out of it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJXwNRrDelY
>>737904192>Fields of Ard SkelligThat's my favorite too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zcu5B8iBclkThat whole Sirene experience from walking in to walking out was just exquisite.
>>737899639He's carried hard by the vocalist.
I've never seen a game more astroturfed than this shit.They had a fucking movie for the game in works BEFORE the game was released.
>>737905475She co-composed too. So yeah, E33 would be nowhere as good without her.That said, his instrumental tracks are pretty good too. I love the Lampmaster.
>>737899639Not even close to Hamauzu. This faggot Lorien cannot even play Chopin >>>/mu/130064740
>>737899639great music composer, absolutely trash video game composer, putting vocals in a worldmap theme is absolutely atrocious
>>737899639>mediocre neo-classical with french wailinglmao
>>737905475Not just a vocalist, she composed the vocal lines and did a pretty good job:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Nas0ft2ME
>>737904013Melody is the most important part of music tbqh anon go be a rhythm fag to reddit r/beats fucking tasteless dumb faggot
>>737899639Him and the rest of E33 are top notch solely on the fact that he makes virgins here seethe.
>>737904086https://youtu.be/JxBQPcfFJnM?si=WnBxzhqx8w0_mkaxBlack pill is realising Uematsu's best tracks are ripped off from 70s prog bands
>>737905649Nier>mediocre bug orchestra with chinese wailing
>>737905835because Prog Rock is amzing same for Jazz Fusion if you are learning from there it means you have good taste. Rock peaked musically in the 70s anyone smart knows this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEpVT-ZJmGw
>>737905630I'll see your Masashi Hamauzu and raise you Masako Otsukahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XeynYSKYm8
>>737905835brother this isn't Final Fantasy, it's Demon's Souls.
>>737905981the issue with most prog rock is that it gets too obsessed with being prog that it forgets to have an actual melody.
>>737906063holy shit, Demons souls is one of my fav games ever and I always thought that the intro cinematic music SUCKED ASSNow I know why, progressive music sometimes fucking sucks ass.And I'm a prog metal fan, I just never heard Triumvirat before.
>>737905994Aint got shit. Hamauzu is the best he got his own band and he is doing well in Japan, and his daughters compose too and they are good. That guy was born in a music conservatory in Germany nobody tops him. He is the king of OST, neo-classical, electronic music, jazz, bossa nova, etc, etc. He covers so many genres and it's lonely at the top. He is a God in human form.his range, he composed all of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqd6E-gX2J0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M9En5BJq_ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdpHKTFXxAEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfDoBy-Qj4Q&t=39shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX8L2m-xHr4his band:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edhpdsnFE64https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXtcJP_AFUY>>737906171ur wrong listen to good prog:https://youtu.be/Gx-0BmYg5Z8?si=9RKqdwuBCK0xNyQf&t=3015
>>737906472>listen to good progI dohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQJtbPgzr_Mdoesn't change the fact that too much prog just tends to sound like the musicians just noodling around.
>>737906689if the melody is following a direction into something then they are doing music, a musician must find and follow melody, its literally the most important aspect of music. Only low IQs cannot come up with melody and you know what i mean , you know what group of people im talking about.
>>737906472The LR Yusnaan battle theme is both Mizuta and Hamauzu and the Knock out theme is Mitsuto Suzuki, not Hamauzu.
>>737901312E33 has one of the most diverse OSTs of any game I've ever played you shitposting tranny subhuman.
>faggots creaming over ai slopAIbros we FEAST
>>737907135ur rite about the second one doesnt change the fact that Hamauzu knows how to make electronic music very well this is his band:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM2UAUX17o8 he can cover lot of genres. he is a god, end of discussion.
>>737906838>you know what group of people im talking about.Starts with n
The thing most people don't know outside of France, and especially outside of Europe, is that France has A LOT of extremely talented artists in every field.E33 caught people by surprise and shamed Japanese devs because they don't know this, same way Arcane was such a surprise hit because suddenly a French animation studio is shaming established anime studios without breaking a sweat. France also has a huge comic book scene that is both less juvenile and childish than manga, while also being actually good instead of the trash Americans put out. Italy also has similar potential.If these countries invested in these industries you'd see hits like E33 quite often, but instead they spend billions importing rapefugees.
>>737907178>he never played FFXIII-2pleb>>737906063the organ part is literally Lavos theme from Chrono Trigger retard. It's hyper similar so he is right. anywaythis is castlevania:https://youtu.be/Mylvwhy63bk?si=5BIvVbiFaJiP4ECO&t=769>>737908034france is a shithole falling to islam and they aint turning that shit around and if they stay nihilistic and with their arms crossed all their high art culture will soon die to a bunch of goatfucking retards from the shithole desert that rape, kill and rob people.
>>737899639So was he the one who put a baby in Alice?
>>737908034Soon France will have no masterpiece works of art ever again. WORRY.
>>737908034The jews hate our artistic talent, they want us to consume the slop they themselves make
>>737899639The songs are both overrated, and sound like garbage in French
>>737899639He’s up there with Soule and Uematsu as far as I’m concerned
>>737909049t.achmad pierre mohammed
>>737909019All desertics are a mistake they are jealous and want to rape all the high culture whiteness of sóyciety. Desertics must be destroyed before they destroy (You) thats all there is to it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fkowl0MGE0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONDk8hdkwZo(You) cannot enjoy things with those animals, they wont let (You).
>>737909184They belong in the desert where a BIG BLACK NUKE drops on their village of tents
>>737909050>AI generated music up there with grandmasterskys
NO FUN ALLOWEDwhy are they like this?
>>737899639>>737899802>>737900921>>737901010>>737901128retarded samefaggot cuck
>>737899639The only game music I truly liked was Crysis 2 main theme. I remember replaying it over, over and over. And after 15 years, I still listen to it from time to time. Kinda crazy.
>>737909791good to know you are retarded
>>737899802fpbp
>>737910051shill
Its very rare when a games ost is good enough for me to want to look up outside of the game. This is one of those times. He's very good
>>737908603I bet
>>737899639No. It got the job done but other than that the ost was painfully forgettable and overrated. I can't remember a single piece from it after playing the game for 60 hours. It's a genre melting pot with no identity
>>737910728This but Nier Automata and Bloodborne
>>737903562It's my favourite track in the game if not simply for that bit at 5:00 that ties into the phase transition.
I wouldnt call them goats or anything but I'm really fond of Simon Viklund's (Payday) and Chris Christodolou's (Risk of Rain) music
>>737912353another shit taste haver. jesus christ!
>a faggot french musicPost true white man's music.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC9Ri2hZsos
>>737906472>>737906689>>737905981>>737905793I like prog
>>737913515Is that the guy who rapes women?
>>737912353RoR1 right?RoR2 music is shit