>mfw no kingdom hearts thread
Kingdom farts
BOIL
>>737900342OP in shambles
too busy playing marathon desu
I finally bought the KH games on Steam a few months ago. I 100%ed KH1 and haven't touched it. In more recent years I've been skipping cutscenes, which feels kinda bad, but it felt weird to watch them during a level 1 run, as well as the 2nd playthrough speedrun.
>Do you know the rules?
KINGDOM HEARTSFILL ME WITH THE POWER OF DARKNESS
>>737900342Kingdom Farts... IS LIGHT!
>>737900313Objective KH2 Data Fights ranking>Vexen>Demyx>Lexaeus>Luxord>Larxene>Zexion>Xigbar>Xaldin>Saix>Marluxia>Xemnas>Axel>RoxasObjective KH3 Data Fights ranking>Marluxia>Young Xehanort>Larxene>Vanitas>Terranort>Ansem>Saix>Luxord>Xigbar>Dark Riku>Xehanort>Xemnas>Xion
>>737900313I just finished KH and then Re:Chain. Now I'm onto KH II and to be honest I kinda miss the close KH camera and L/R controls.
Playing BBS again and I just remembered how fucked the balancing is. When you start a character on critical, the first 2 worlds are hell because of your lack of commands and styles but as soon as you start melding the broken mid tier magic and get magnera, the difficulty falls off a cliff
>>737903127I had a lot of fun against Data Young Xehanort and didn't like Data Larxene. That fight wasn't bad, but it seemed like a copy of the KH2 battle without anything that made that interesting. Other KH2 Organization XIII members brought back like Marluxia and Xemnas were a lot more interesting in their changes.
>>737903127Where would LW and Yozora rank here?
>>737903953He's mostly that low cause he's pretty boring. I want to say I beat him on my first try when almost all the other bosses except Terranort hit double digits
>>737900627shit like this made me like the Organization bosses, KH is probably the best Bleach game we'll get
>>737904169Top of both lists. Also Yozora > LW and on the whole KHIII > KH II when it comes to super bosses. KHIII actually has incredibly good combat, they just forgot to design a good game around it
>>737900342fpbp
>>737904197He's one of the easier ones, but so is Larxene, and I spent the whole fight wishing I was just playing the KH2 Larxene battle. I wasn't wishing I was playing the DDD Young Xehanort battle against YH, though. Ultimately they're both around the same position so it's not like it needs to be changed, but I liked the YH battle a lot and didn't like the Larxene battle very much.
>>737903127I have a soft spot for Lexaeus precisely because he's the easiest data fight/absent silhouette, but it's fun to fight him regardless. I even beat him right away when I was doing level 1.
>>737905535People say that but her jukes kept fucking me up and I never learned. I feel like both her fights rewarded keeping calm and not getting tilted which I suck at>>737905995Same for me with KHIII Luxord and, to a lesser extent, Terranort
>>737900313Who's your favourite OG Organization XIII member?
>>737900313>one good game (1/1FM)>two ok games (CoM/2FM)>rest of the series is shithow does it still have fans? autism?
>>737907289Days is kino
>>737907289Only objective bad video game in the series was Coded when it was only for smart phones. Once it got remade for DS, it became good.
This franchise is dead.
One of the most underrated parts of these games is getting more lore/a longer ending sequence for completing everything, beating superbosses, etc. It was fun to speculate back in the day and you'd be waiting to get answers with the next game. If they did anything decently with all the original games before 3, it was that.
>>737907275imagine telling someone unaware of kh that these are technically disney characters
>>737907656>They just want to see how this train wreck will end.Didn't they already cap off the whole Xehanort saga with 3? It may not have been the most satisfying but at least it capped off most of the things that were introduced in KH2 and BBS.I'm not interested in 4 since it's going to completely new worlds and I didn't like the direction the story went from BBS to 3.
>>737907956 3's Yozora secret endings were kino too. Nothing will top deep dive though.
>>737903464The most jarring thing about the jump to Kh2 is how the worlds feel hollow and linear.
>>737908061With FFVII Rebirth landing on there, you can assume yeah, KHIV will target Switch 2 too
can i play dream drop distance if i only vaguely remember the story from the other games? or should i replay all the games up to that point first? it's one of the few kh games i never finished because i didn't enjoy it in the final mix collection, but i think i'd probably like it on the 3ds.
>>737908854its best to go into dream drop with as much context as possible. You're going to be scratching your head either way though.
>>737908854All you really need to know is after KHII Sora gets that message in a bottle telling him and Riku that KHIII is going to happen soon and to get their ass back to Yensid to become Keyblade Masters. Good luck figuring out what happens next
>>737908854DDD was the KH3 before KH3 actually came out since it relies a lot on you knowing things that happened in KH2 and BBS.
>>737908854DDD easily has the most convoluted story of the whole franchise. And this is a franchise known for being convoluted.
>>737908854KH gets memed on for being overly complex but it wasn't until DDD that it really shat the bed. Also, it retcons some things and introduces time travel to the equation. Good luck making sense of it.
>>737908961>>737909000>>737909039>>737909064>>737909180I guess I will replay them then. Lately I've only been interested in playing handheld games but I guess I can buy KH1.5+2.5 for the third time for my Steam Deck since I don't feel like pulling out my PS3 or PS4.
>>737909652You could just play BBS or CoM GBA if you want handheld KH, and the plots of those games are easier to swallow.If you're a buyfag then the KH collections are on sale right now, $20 for 1.5+2.5 or $40 for the whole saga with DDD and 3FM.
>>737909794I was just thinking about DDD because I've been spending a lot of time on my 3DS lately, and I never finished that entry. I think I looked up a plot summary before KH3 came out. But if I'm going to go through the whole series again then maybe this time I'll play the original releases of CoM, Re:Coded, 358/2 Days, and BBS. I can carry those consoles around in my pocket which will be nice. And I think there's a fan translation of the Japan-only BBSFM for PSP.
KH boys are SO cute
>>737910286we need to protect sora from shotacons
>>737910225CoM GBA and Re:Coded are worth it, I remember hating Re:CoM until I tried the GBA version and the card system is a lot easier to understand there.There's also a patch for BBSFM out there but like with 2FM it was remastered for 2.5 HD so people barely play it. I'd only bother if you really want the original hardware experience at 30FPS.https://www.romhacking.net/translations/2232/
We need a Boondocks level
>>737910417Thanks for the link. 30FPS doesn't really bother me in most games. Maybe I should buy a PSP. I have a Vita but the upscaling of PSP looks kinda bad.
>>737907275I meanBarring Axel (or Roxas or Xion)Demyx is cuteLarxene is funXigbar is coolIt'd be Axel though for me, if I had to pick
>>737910452I can already hear Huey's meta-commentary on model minority racial dynamics from being in a Japanese video game. Riley would become the next villain after calling Sora & co. faggots.
Woooooooooooooooow dude
>>737907994Kingdom Hearts has been around for decades and the fact that this joint project between SE and Disney even exists still seems like the most unlikely thing to ever happen in gaming.
>>737907275Roxas and the third guy from the right withe the emo hair
>>737910963Honestly it feels like everything after KH1 is an abberation. KH1 was mainly a Disney game with Square characters, with Sora Riku and Kairi being neutral OCs that could glue everything together. But then CoM introduced the Organization and from there KH was less interested in being a Disney game with less Square characters and went in its own direction. KH1 is the only one that feels like the whole "Disney-Square" elevator pitch it's described as.
>>737910951>escapes being frozen, then runs back inWhat did Ven mean by this
Missing-Link tomorrow?
>>737912374Missing Link was cancelled around a year ago, anon. It's time to move on.
>>737907275larxene is the most entertaining one
>>737913292That's what they want you to think
If you're going to bait, you've gotta make it at least be believable
always incredibly funny when someone says kingdom hearts needs less disneyit just needs to be integrated better, that's all. fairy godmother and hades being involved in the setup for KH4 is kino
>>737910951BBS was painful
>>737910363you're about 19 years too late, if i recall correctly
>>737915970Even in the mobile games we has cool shit like the Magic Mirror telling Xehanort where Ventus was or something. And Hades being able to bring back dead people temporarily in the underworld
>>737915482>just make that one game I liked multiple timesthis is how you end up with boring formulaic slop. it's how executives think. I might not like every KH game but I respect that they're always trying something different.
>>737915970KH suffers too much from Disney mandates for it to really use more so the best option would be to have less. Imagine if they really did let you bring any Disney party members into other worlds
I still haven't done the kh3 data fights
>>737917648they're better than kh2 data fights but kh3 does not do a good job at setting up the player to use the game's tools properly so be prepared to experiment sometimes
>>737900342fpbp, KH isn't worth playing
>lower leveled D-Link is actually stronger and better than the maxed D-LinkWhat did they mean by this?
Good job OP, well played
>>737917648I did them on my PS4 after abadoning the rest of the my life for about 1 week. I tried to do them again recently when I bought the KH series on Steam but I don't even know how I did them before. Shit is sweaty
>>737900313KH2 is the only main game I haven't played, and I recently found a use game guide super cheap that I bought. I'm kind of tempted to play it and use the guide, because that would be nostalgic. however, I recently replayed KH1 and played KH3 for the first time, and KH1 was a lot more shitty than I remember. Like, I specifically remembered the clock tower in neverland, I remember that feeling magical as a kid - then I get there, and it's basically nothing. You're there for like 20 seconds.Then I heard 2 is even MORE of a hallway running sim with almost no level design.
>>7379185672 completely forgoes level design in return for basically everything else being better
>>737918567How the fuck have you not played the best game in the series? Also you don't need a guide at all every zone is basically a hallway and the collectibles are obvious unlike say kh1
>>737919110That's pretty grim considering how poor 1 and 3 were when it came to level design.
>>737919281kh2 is all about the gameplay, play it on critical
>>737919276Because I only had 1 as a kid, 3 was a random purchase because I got a PS4 copy for like $1. The guide part isn't because I'd need the fucking thing, but because it'd be nostalgic flipping through a book and reading shit while I'm playing the damn game.
>>737919346Well do whatever you think will be fun anon.
What movies could the next one crossover with? Zootopia is for certain. Inside Out also has a good chance (with none of the VAs returning). Definitely not Inside Out because the memes are radio active.
>>737919525*Definitely not Turning Red
>>737915970KH needs less OC retardation, the organization and whatnot are the worst parts of the game. KH should have just been full on disney + FF (or square enix in general) with Ansem as a recurring mad scientist
>>737900313Would you buy actual spin offs for Kingdom Hearts like a racing game or a platformer?
I'm not sure Kingdom Hearts will last with FF7 chewing everything up. But it was beautiful.
Kingdom Hearts 4 is vaporware, get it through your freakin' skull?
>Buy the kh collection on pc>Only ever play kh2 every year
>>737919525>>737919576I could see Turning Red as a summon or something. Moana is a definite
>>737919593The original content of Kingdom Hearts isn't necessarily bad but rather Nomura executes it in the worst ways. The thing that really hurts the original content is that Nomura is addicted to making everything connected. Notice how in Final Fantasy each original story is stand alone? Hell even things like Sonic the Hedgehog have had continuity but not enough to suffocate the franchise. Kingdom Hearts does the reverse and its worse for it.
>>7379159702 had the perfect balance with returning to Hollow Bastion/Twilight Town to see OC's/FF characters on and off throughout the story between journey's out into the Disney worlds, and also mixing the OC's into the Disney worlds upon revisiting them. A big reason why the entire pacing of 3 sucked ass for me was because there was virtually no breaks from Disney world hopping at all until the last 10% of the game, and you only ever see most of them in cutscenes talking on your phone
>>737900627THE FIRST TO RUN OUT OF TIME IS THE LOSER
>>737919281I was disappointed too but as a recent KH2 first timer I felt like the rest of the experience was still on par with KH1 or better. The combat and QOL are amazing but the levels are corridors. It's up to you whether or not this tradeoff is good or bad.
>>737907275Larxene but I'm not sure why's she such a bitch?
>>737919593Pleb opinion desu
>>7379003137 years since it was relevant.
>>737921641>it'll be a fucking decade until the next game's releasedSE's such a shit company.
>>737910452Come on Disney, at least give us a Song of the South world.
>>737919838>Turning Red as a summonSORA THEY HIT THE PENTAGON! THEY HIT THE FUCKING PENTAGON SORA!
I can't think of a single Disney movie past whenever Big Hero 6 released I'd actually want to see in a Kingdom Hearts game. They're all lame as fuck.
>>737915970Not enough gets said about how well BbS did it.The stories and events of the Disney worlds were used to highlight their internal development and often held parallels with their faults and ultimate fate.Despite those worlds still being "just the movie," they're used in such a way that elevates the original characters.
>>737918567>KH2 is the only main game I haven't played... Why?
>>737903127Roxas's fight is probably the second most enjoyable in the game, I don't know how you can post this.>>737904365Yeah I get what you mean, it's appreciably rather anime and Nomura's aesthetics autism are a good complement to Kubo's aesthetics autism
>>737919773KH2 being basically an action game entirely helps with playing it, you can be as fast and cool as you want. Similar-ish case with 1, it's a very tight and grounded action rpg. 3 is too slow, mainly in the gameplay and focus on "cinematic elements" to really be a fun and frequent replay for me.
>>737923205Those are worst to best
>>737910951>has magnega>not casting it immediately when getting out of the first freeze
>>737923318I guess I can believe, even if I find demyx fun
>>737922230SOMEBODY COME QUICK
>>737919281KH2 levels are mostly flat arenas to host fights. You basically just run to the next fight, especially since they'll block off areas you don't need to go to. The game is basically a bunch of fights. Good thing those fights are mostly fun.
>>737924615I just hate the instant kill shit at the very end. Same reasoning for KHIII Marluxia
>>737903127Only fight I remember is Xion because of those slutty boots she's wearing
>>737924772>>737921242Yeah honestly, that's gonna be a no-go from me then. A big reason I hated DMC5 is because it was basically straight lines to arenas, whereas I loved the Resident Evil/3D metroidvania style exploration of the others.At least the guide I bought was in good condition and pretty though. I'll probably get around to playing it when I have absolutely nothing else to do. I'm sure it's a good game, but that's just not my thing.
>>737924794Yeah that's fair, it feels pretty unnecessary when the rest of the fight already had a bunch of mechanics that pushed the timer and your knowledge.>>737925038That's reasonable. I'd say that DMC3 is also fairly linear but it disguises the linearity of every chapter rather well with the consistent design of the tower.
>>737925038I didn't like a lot of DMC5 levels either. KH2 is more open than that, but it's similar to DMC5 where you're either fighting or running to the next fight most of the time.
>>737907275Larxene because I want to smell her feet.Marluxia because scythes are cool.
>>737925038Idk how other people feel about it, but I like Dream Drop Distance a lot for feeling like KH1 again with platforming and adventure game puzzles.
>>737919525My dream is who framed roger rabbit, atlantis, treasure planet and return to oz
>>737900313Will never understand how people say the command deck is the worst battle system in the series when the card deck exist.
>>737926923DDD would be a game with good exploration if flow motion didn't trivialize most sections. There's only a handful of sections it really doesn't mess up, like Pinocchio's prankster Paradise area or the mailroom.
>>737900627Believe in the Heart of the Cards!
>>737903127Worst to best from bottom to top?Best to worst from top to bottom?
>>737907275i'm still mad about xion's existance, kh days could have been absolute kino if it focused more on the other org members but nooo we gotta have some melodrama about kairi clone number 2
The doomers and whiners have ruined even Kingdom Hearts for me. I am now a kingdom hearts fan in isolation.
>>737900313>stats soft cap at 80 for most if not all bosses >includes data bosses So what's the point of being able to raise my stats to max if the only enemies that will ever be affected by it are mooks that you can kill in a few hits anyway?
>>737930276Gotta make Marluxia easier by giving yourself 99 hits. That's about it.
>>737930276What's the point of having a difficult boss if you can just boost stats to the point of invalidating them
>>737907275Why is Xion there? That would make it Organization XIV
>>737930420Who?
>>737930276Max level is usually still tied to achievements anyways. But afterwards on replays, you can just get to the level you want to be for data fights and superbosses and call it good.
>>737930142An extremely based take
Kairi or Naminè?
>>737931313Namine should be killed for ruining Sora's brain.And the correct answer is Sora with women who aren't from Kingdom Hearts because these bitches are shit. And Sora has a lot of art of he being with women from other media that isn't Disney or from Kingdom Hearts.
>>737907275>14 members>only 1 womanwhat did Nomura mean by this
>>737931518Marluxia was supposed to be female originally.
>>737930142My problem with Xion is it kinda feels like she over shadows Naminé, at least for me. In Kingdom Hearts 2 it feels as though Naminé and Roxas are supposed to have some history, but then you get to Days and they just don't
>>737900313Punchable face
>>737931313Naminé
>>737931657roxas x xion is fucking weird since they are both sora technically
really liked 1 and 2, didnt play/wont play spinoffs, 3 is the reason I wont buy 4theres just not much to say about kh that hasnt already been said before
>>737900313What is your type of Disney Princess/Heroine?Reminder Official Disney Princess Qualifications are as stated (Franchise Rules)>Protagonist: Must be the primary character in a Disney animated feature film.>Humanoid: Must be human or humanoid (e.g., Ariel), though exceptions exist.>Royalty or Heroism: Must be born royal, marry royal, or perform an act of immense heroism (e.g., Mulan).>No Sequels: The character must originate in a theatrical film, not a television series or direct-to-video sequel.>Success and Popularity: The movie must have been successful, but not so popular that it warrants its own separate franchise (hence, Frozen characters are often excluded from the official line-up).>Animated: They must come from an animated, not live-action, film.
>>737915970>always incredibly funny when someone says kingdom hearts needs less disneyI just want Incredibles in Kingdom Hearts and it being executed right. That too much to ask for?
>>737911262>KH1 is the only one that feels like the whole "Disney-Square" elevator pitch it's described as.First game did so much cool stuff that would never be done today.
>>737932281It's really disgusting how Disney turned into a feminism propaganda machine.
>>737918567Here’s how I’ll put for you anonThe beauty of Kingdom Hearts is that some can enjoy it at any stage in their life.>Kid enjoying a whimsical adventure through Disneyland>Teenager listening to the characters drone on about hearts and darkness>Adult who can swallow their pride and just get chuckles out of itWas anyone else lucky enough at the right age to experience all of this as the series carried on?
>>737919525I just want a Final Fantasy World for a nice change of pace, if it were up to me I’d choose FF1 for simplicity sake but knowing Square they’ll choose their darling FF7.
>>737919683
>>737932683They were always like that. Walt Disney himself said this:“Women are the best judges of anything we turn out. Their taste is very important. They are the theatergoers; they are the ones who drag the men in. If the women like it, to heck with the men.”And Disney's first creation as a studio was never Mickey Mouse but rather the Alice Comedies which stars a girl meaning Disney was always a female oriented company. And this is why it's disgusting to see Disney buy male franchises because they automatically ruin them. And if Kingdom Hearts is flawed now it would become even worse with Disney getting full control. If you are male then Disney has always hated you.
>>737919668I’d buy a Kingdom Hearts fighting game, oh wait!
>>737900484>I 100%ed KH1 and haven't touched itwhat does this even mean
>>737900313when will the NEW one come out so we can get some sfm's of this SEMEN DEMON
>>737926923Its ruined by flow motion allowing you to skip platforming. There's a reason it got nerfed to hell in KH3
>>737928865They say it's the command system because BBS has a lot of shitty fights meanwhile theoretically if you could remove RNG and just rebuild any deck then CoM works fine
Should I buy KH3
>>737921641Not counting Mobile Slop, Melody of Memory released in 2020.Here we are in 2026 with nothing. Just makes me miss the earlier days of gaming where games didn’t take as long to come out.>But FF7 RemakeSquare used to juggle so many games back in the 90s and 2000s while pumping out Final Fantasy games. Same with Capcom and Konami with their franchises. Now games take entire childhoods to come out, sadge…
>>737930276Even then it's not like you deal insignificant damage. Just take a look at the speed difference between level 99 crit data org vs level 1
>>737933004Late this year or early next for the 25th anniversary.They messed up with killing ML
>>737927351No way in Kingdom Hearts are they doing this
WHENalso yeah i know you said when im just still saying it
How do we feel about the 1000 heartless fight in KH3? I guess redoing KH2's thing wasn't nearly as cool.
>>737900627AND SO DO I
>>737900313>mwf I see a N*body thinking he's a person
>>737933937Never
>>737932718>picrelNever forget what they took from you
>>737909180>the distance in time for KH1 to DDD is only TEN YEARSOnly ONE decadeJust imagine
>>737922562People often overlook stuff like that.
Mansex
Is 3 worth playing now? Since 2 i dont give a shit about the story but the gameplay in 3 was so ass I just stopped. Did they fixed the combat?
>>737932718You know, I always thought that in KH3 they were kinda going back to FF summons with the way Simba/Ariel/Stitch were all elemental. Though I suppose the same restrictions that said "No, you can't actually use the characters" probably applied to "No, you can't modify the characters designs". A more Ifrit-like Simba or Shiva-like Ariel would've been the first instance of good crossover material since KH1.Outside of Fantasia in DDD, god what a great fucking world stuck in such a shitty game.
>>737939276>Is 3 worth playing now?No
>>737900313>mfw no KH4 news
>>737932437does sora need another mini-arc about becoming a real hero?
>>737939276Fix how? There was a patch while they were making the DLC that made the combat a bit snappier. It also has the best Critical difficulty since it has some significant changes and becomes more of an action game. It's not a totally different game after patches, though, so you shouldn't feel like you need to try the game right away to see if you like it now.
I like this series, but really just for Nomura's childhood fantasies. I think he has the ability to match Disney in comfiness and whimsy if he wants to (Twilight Town, Traverse Town, the other original areas are all on par with the best Disney worlds). Since I have no real nostalgia for Disney I have no attachment to their particular properties and see their strict rules as hindering the overall potential.
>>737941291Maybe he should have an arc teaching others how to be heroes like him
>>737903127>that KH2 listthis HAS to be from worst to best, right?
>>737932281It's insane how the most ungodly coal you've ever seen in your life gets to be the most common, yet the hottest girls disney has ever made are left to be forgotten
>>737900313So are the PC versions the best way to play the KH games now?
>>737943356God no, rife with issues, even if you can add QOL mods.
>>737932281Jane amd shanti really activated my neurons as a kid, especially shanti.I secretly rewindes the shanti scene a lot as a kid so the comment walt made about the scene really cracked me up.
>>737943356Original console Final Mixes are always the best ones. PC has a lot of bugs.I never played the PS2 Chain of Memories though so I'm not sure about that one.
>>737932513KH1 was Squaresoft’s last game before they became Square Enix and it really shows. The sheer level of creativity and soul in it is unlike any other game in the series. The only way it could have been better is if they let world exclusive party members go to other worlds (though I question how that would work for Ariel).
>>737943743You just don't allow her to leave but allow everyone else, simple. Being a mermaid I don't think anyone would complain
>>737915970I just replayed 2 and I think it did an okay enough jobOrg members go to the Disney worlds fairly often.
>>737943743This is going to sound really gay but kh1 is a magicial game full of life and creativity. I really really like it as a piece of art.Modern square now would never have phantom as a super boss. It's not flashy enough like a sword fight or le epic difficult enough
>>737915970>needs to be integrated betterBasically thisKH3 had a lot of Disney, but it all felt disjointed and completely nonsensical in terms of plot. Take the Tangled or Frozen worlds for example, they had to remind you every now and then WHY were they even messing around there to begin with. And at the end of all that, it basically didn't matter, you were just gaining strength until Xehanort decided to move the plot forward again.We could not only have a lot more of Disney, but the best choice would have been to mix it with the OC Nomura shit as well, like writing a Tails Got Trolled or Crash Bandicoot Retold chapter
they dont make em like they used to
>>737943947Ariel is the strongest party member in the entire game though (both as a white mage or physical damage dealer depending on how you build her), so that would feel like a waste.>>737944146KH1 was basically an experimental game that was lucky enough to have a massive budget behind it so it could fulfil its ambitions. There’s was some kind of soul that Square had then that was lost after the merger. Square Enix still made good games after the merger like KH2 and FFXII, but there was a certain something that their 1991-2002 run had that just got lost after the merger.
My favorite Disney movie is sleeping beauty I only.played kingdom hearts 1 and 2. Does it show up as a world later? It's strange the series use the godmothers and malacificent but my nigga prince Phillip is no where to be seen The dark forest and evil castle would make a good level
>>737944515its in Birth By Sleep heh
>>737915970>>737944287In Nomura's defense Disney has been a bitch and half with their mandates.
>>737944287KH was basically the proto-Tails Gets Trolled. It has the same idea of being a crossover fanfic that takes itself deathly seriously.
>>737944515It's also in 2.0 kind of
>>737944552>>737944649NeatShould I play birth by sleep. I really liked kh 1/2 but i lost my kh2 save several times to egs fucking up so I played them on my ps2Thought about replaying kh2 critical on fm via steam or emulation idk since it seems fm added like all of the content people actually liked.Or should I just go to bbs?
>>737944768birth by sleep has a different battle system from kh2 but its fun in its own waysjust don't think too hard about the story
>>737944287>>737944595This might be a hot take, but I think KH2 even worse for integration and might in fact be the worst game in the series in terms of integration. At least 60-70% of the game is pure filler and the only times the main plot pops up in the Disney worlds is when an Org member (or Riku in the case of The Land of Dragons) shows up, and the majority of Disney worlds don’t have an Org member tied to them. Of course, Space Paranoids has a major impact on the plot, but that’s the exception. The only thing it has over KH3 is that there’s more OC worlds, so the plot is slightly more spread out as opposed to how KH3 crammed most of its plot into the last 4 hours.
>>737944595There's no need to defend Nomura, we're looking at the end product and saying the disney implementation is shit. Saying "oh but there were mandates in place and that's why the disney worlds are completely isolated from the main story" doesn't change what we got. Even then, there are worlds where the story isn't a rehash of the movie like Big Hero 6 or Monsters Inc so it makes the worlds where the plot is a rehash stand out even more. Or Olympus where even though it's the closest they get in KH to using the movie's plot, there's been so much development of the world from prior games that it feels unique enough.
>>737944768BBS is a fun game. It's not KH2 and not really trying to be, but on its own, its enjoyable.
>>737944595On one hand we have Disney who only allowed titles that nad a new sequel movie or series in the works and didn't allow for anyone to interact with their cash cow Frozen, and on the other hand you had Nomura who can't let V13 go and tries to turn other games into it out of spite.It was pretty much doomed to be bad.
>>737945336I think people forget that BBS was a PSP game, and as such was extremely technically impressive for its time. It was mindblowing back in 2010-2011 to have a PS2-tier game on a handheld. Even back then, most people thought KH1 and 2 were better, but BBS is still arguably one of the best PSP games ever made. Its gameplay is a direct evolution of Crisis Core’s gameplay.
>>737945083>Even then, there are worlds where the story isn't a rehash of the movie like Big Hero 6 or Monsters Inc so it makes the worlds where the plot is a rehash stand out even moreThat is literally, because the big hero 6 guys and pixar guys were willing to grant more leeway and the frozen guy were actually notoriously a pain in the ass to deal with what was and wasn't allowed.
>>737933937Where Strelitzia here?
>>737900627>ALL SHALL BE LOST TO YOU
>>737933001I drop words sometimes, though I'd imagine most would intuitively understand what I meant.
Kh4 is fucked. I think the series was in a better place when it was clear Disney didn't really care that that much with it being a weird Japanese game.It's the reason the first game has a bunch of in retrospect odd ball picks like who gave a fuck about Alice in wonderland in 2002, Well it was probably because someone at square liked that film and it showed that sora is in a bizzare world now leaving his own or whatever as a parallel with Alice or whatever.But now that video games are huge and it's an opportunity for cross promotion we will get marvel world, Star wars world, every other movie will be the live action version because maybe the game will convince people to like them and too go buy the blue ray discs and watch the next live action.If Disney did this back when kh1 was new the first world would have been lilo and stich instead of Alice.
>>737945336I like BBS and how it makes autists seethe because of how ultra unfriendly it is to play in any form other than casually. No damage floors or animation canceling or revenge values here, sometimes you just gotta take a hit or go level up like in oldschool rpgs.
>>737946057>woah what do you mean nobodies felt something all along what a stupid twist
>>737946228Tbf, KH3 began with Olympus for thematic purposes. We didn’t hit shameless self-promotion material until about Tangled or Frozen. You also seem to be forgetting that KH1 had Tarzan quite early on in the game, and that was a fairly recent movie when KH1 came out. KH games almost always have at least one “modern” pick relative to when the game came out:>KH1: Tarzan>KH2: Pirates of the Caribbean + Chicken Little as a summon>DDD: Tron Legacy>KH3: Frozen (as Frozen 2 was about to come out), Big Hero 6, Wreck it Ralph as a summon.BBS is the only exception, and that was only because Disney didn’t have many movies outside of Princess and the Frog around about then.
>>737946228Japan fucking loves Alice in Wonderland, just look at how many version of it they have.
>>737946229I think a big part of why opinion on KH games is split is because some are more action heavy and others are more RPG heavy.the action heavy KH games are:>KH2>KH3The RPG heavy KH games are:>CoM>Days>BBS>DDD>the mobile gamesKH1 and Re:Coded are the only ones that are somewhere in the middle and strike a balance between action and RPG elements.
>>737946297>What, all those nobodies that are displaying emotions? Nah they're just pretending
>>737946692KH3 had:Toy Story (4 releasing soonMonsters inc (D+ series was announced)Tangled (running tv series)Caribean (Pirates was in the works before Depp fucked p)The only world that wasn't there as an ad for a movie or series they were pushing was 100 acre Woods, and it showed since that was just a bejeweled minigame.
>>737947285If we're including shit like tv series and potential projects barely in the planning phase, then basically every world across the entire series could be construed the same wayAlso they should've been marketing Pirates way earlier given how well the caribbean turned out, imagine if they finally replaced the fuck ass gummi ship segments with that ship gameplayWe could even have Treasure Island representation with barely any extra dev time
>>737947786>treasure island*treasure planet
Larxene is my wife
>Vanitas 2 at the end of Ventus' campaignWho's bright idea was it to make the win condition at the end clash only? In a phase of the fight where you lose access to healing magic?
>>737949515It would be fine if it wasn’t for the fact the finisher bar fills so slowly and that for some bizarre reason, the finisher can miss. The there’s nothing wrong with a flashy setpiece to cap off a final boss fight as long as the setpiece isn’t frustrating.
>>737949816I'm okay with the shotlock and dark splicers being clashes to fill up the bar, but the fact that the finisher also has to be a clash is what tilts me. Twice I managed to get to the finisher with 1 hp, tried to time it for the clash but Vanitas teleports behind me and kills me
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>>737949515I don't think I ever had an issue with the vanitas setpiece.
>>737946228Check out this video, Yoko Shimomura is a masterful composer that her music of each corresponding world feels and sounds like it could’ve been part of the original film that the world was based off of!https://youtu.be/uKjjJMiwj_E
Someone give me a TL;DR on Dream Drop Distance for KH3 cuz i don't wanna play that shit
>>737954169>Someone give me a TL;DR on Dream Drop Distancehttps://youtu.be/A4q_tjYRWTIG7eCWGfwt5AuXhno
>>737954169The plot? Getting ready for KH3 involves Sora and Riku basically going to another dimension to obtain the "power of waking." Shit falls apart quick while they're there and a lot of characters who basically died in previous games are back doing their thing. Riku does a lot better than Sora.
What are some Kingdom Hearts Opinions that could get you in this situation?
It's been a decade since I played the games, I should replay them but I've been so diligent clearing my backlog.
>>737955998I wouldn't mind a world based on a Marvel property
>>737955990Hot Chick Heaven
>>737955998kingdom hearts 2 has the best gameplay but its gameplay is also severely overrated and overanalyzed that people have lost the plot on what makes it fun in the first place
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