>https://x.com/Wario64/status/2049604903023100365>Tales of Eternia Remastered is PEGI rated for Nintendo Switch
cool
Finally, a remaster for a game that didn't come out in the last decade
>>737910119>it's realWe're finally getting the 2D PS2 games + Destiny Remake soon, right?
>>737910119TALES OF HEBEPHILLIA ?
>inb4 it's without skits again
>>737911267Was Destiny DC's fan translation ever completed?
They are doing everything in their power to not remaster/rerelease Abyss, but at least this one is a good game. That Berseria remaster was the most retarded thing ever
IKERU IKERU / NO PROBLEM
>>737910119Doomer prediction that's highly likely: it'll have an AI upscale shitfilter and be based on the PSP version with the cropped backgrounds.
>>737911471Yes. It was done with machine translation I think, but it wasn't bad.
>>737910119Eternia was why my first Tales game and will always be my favourite so this is kino. I also like how it's the only game where the main protagonist isn't actually the viewpoint character, but is the supporting lead (Farah).
>>737910119You mean Tales of Destiny 2 ;)
>>737911647Eternia is easily the strongest entry in the entire series overall. Huge, beautiful and fun world with two overworlds and an underwater map, surprisingly decent combat that still holds up to this day and very fun leads. But it desperately needs skits.
>>737910119It'd gonna be HD2D slop.
>>737911821Maybe it was because I was a kid, but the game felt like it was endless with neverending shit to discover like valkyrie tower and catz village. Imagine my disappointment when I played Tales of Symphonia and the only optional dungeon was Nifhleim and you couldn't even go in it proper.
hory shit a remaster of a 2d game for once???
>>737912054Didn't the 1st game get three remakes?
>>737912040No, it's genuinely one of the biggest and most impressive Tales worlds.
Ayo He-Man rpg remake incoming?
>>737913130One remake and two ports based on that remake.
>>737911946>Zoomer that doesn't know the difference between Remaster and RemakeGenuinely why is this so common?
>>737910119Finally some good fucking food
>>737910119Abyssbros... Our status...?
>>737910119fantastic news
>>737913363>Publishers and Developers constantly use the terms interchangeably Retard
Always sad to see a game get the remastered treatment.
>>737913157>Most tales games these days are just linear corridors with no overworldThey don't make them like they used to.
>>737913676>literally a story about a brown pussy mindbreaking a stuck up chud
>>737910119>For SwitchPC when
>>737911408Could you fucking imagine them pulling that shit again even after Symphonia's remaster added in the JP-only skits?
>>737910119Is this because of Star Ocean 2 remakes success? I'm playing it right now and its "Ok" I don't see why its praised to the level it was. v
>>737913294And a PSP remake and another version of the remake with an extra platyable character.
>>737914502Almost certainly unrelated.Bamco started this "Tales Remaster" project where they shit out a new remaster every couple months, and I guess it was Eternia's turn now.
>>737910119fuck this is best tales game ever. we played it with friends on ps1, and then i played it alone on psp. best tales game, though graces f is good too.
I will buy this, assuming it's coming to PC. My timeline went symphonia > vesperia > eternia because I didn't have a PS3, and eternia was easily my favorite
>>737914257Stronger men have folded under less pressure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDI9WK7-sAEHow auistic someone needs to be to discover maxwell extensions?
Nice, hopefully this means it'll be on PS5 too, I like collecting trophies.
>>737915310>Maxwell hi-ougi is literally 3/4 of the video
>>737915372Scamco has been doing multiplat releases for every game since like Zesteria so its probably coming to everything. Someone at Pegi screwed up and pushed this rating out publicly early
>>737910119ABOUT FUCKING TIMEI guess there's still hope for Destiny Director's Cut.
>>737915310I fucking love this game
>>737915138>>737914257>Literal incel locked up in his tower researching mysteries of the world>Exotic genki brown girl from an entirely different world shows up out of nowhere and literally throws herself at himBro never stood a chance.
>>737910119PUT THE SKITS IN BAMCO YOU FUCK
>>737914502Damn imagine if it was given the SO2 treatmentIs it possible though? Considering how fucking lazy Bamco is
>>737916170>imagine if it was given the half-assed HD2D treatmentHow about no
>>737916170It's a remaster so most likely no. SO2 was a remake.
Eternia is basically the true second Tales game as far as actual gameplay mechanics go. Original Tales of Destiny was literally just a reskin of Phantasia but Eternia is where the combat really came into its own. Much faster paced, real time spell casting, most of the stuff you expect from Tales combat started here so I’m very excited for it Its also got my second favorite green girl in the series
>>737910119Life Bottle translator/programmer confirmed as leaked?The virgin Lumina Destiny can't compete
leaker*
>>737914113True. Honestly, they couldn't even repeat what Eternia achieved. Symphonia is the closest and the world is still very watered down.
has this ever been localized
>>737913742The Cameo Fight in Abyss was much, much better because I played Eternia before.
>>737917249yes but it got a terrible english dub that puts megaman x4 to shame
MY BODY IS READY.I own the PS1 version and I'll gladly buy this one. Maybe I could get a bro or two together and play co-op.
>>737910119oh good, never finished itdropped it at the start of disc 2but what are they doing remastering a nearly 30 year old game? don't they need to do xillia 2 and zestiria first
>>737917249PS1.It was called Tales of Destiny II because of He-man copyright with the word Eternia.Still different from the still-JP-only Destiny 2 which is the direct sequel to Destiny.
would they really try to sell this on its own
>>737917374This is a beloved game in the franchise (that already had an official translation).
Eternia is the 5th anniversary game, makes sense.
>>737910119Abyssfags and Phantasiafags BTFO
>>737917442they already did for psp many years ago.
>>737913157It's also packed full of secrets, too. Not just things and places you can find in the worlds, the battle system itself has a ton of hidden features like Farah's Rising Phoenix, the Maxwell extensions, and the metric fuckton of Altered/Extended Artes Reid has access to.
>>737910119>2D Taleschads finally eating good againBased
They could easily do a "enhanced version" like Vesperia and add the anime exclusive characters but this is Namco in 2026 and we will just get a lazy port with censorship.
>>737913742Hopefully that's the next one on the docket.
>>737917661>anime exclusive charactersNo.And Vespy's anime (movie) exclusive cameos were nothingburgers.
>>737917661Please no. Patty was such a terrible shoehorn and she was actually in the game. I can't imagine how annoying non-game characters getting forced in would be.
>>737917716We still never got the Phantasia remaster Japan got that also added the new stuff.
>>737917781Pattys hat was in the 360 original and the efried pirate thing is a Tales staple.
Beloved kino.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV2LtbRgJ64>>737917806Rondoline retconned chunks of Dhaos's backstory and her implementation was ass in Phantasia X. She was only good in Narikiri X.
Eternia but this time with good english dub
>>737917806That was translated a few months ago and her implementation is pretty bad too
>>737917909shitty dubs have sovl
>>737913676Reminder that shes not a loli
>>737917909I actually really liked the Eternia dub
I hope they keep the part where the innkeeper milf wants to fuck Keele
>>737913772This doesn't happen zoomer. At the absolute most you might see something like Xenoblade 1 and X DE where they're just ports with upgraded graphics.
>>737910119Tales of destiny DC and Actual Tales of destiny 2 remastered and with official translation for the west never ever
What's getting change because of modern sensibilities?
PS1 or PSP version
So there's hope for destiny 2 (real) to come here after all?
>>737918351Won't they just based it on psp version
Wow, a game that actually kinda warrants a remaster. Bamco waking up perhaps?
>>737910119>rated for Nintendo SwitchSurely that doesn't mean it's not coming to PC, right?
After front mission 3 got AI raped beyond recognition, I'm not getting my hopes up for this one.This game's prerendered background and sprites aged like wine and does not need any poison added to it.
>>737917781People theorized that we were short of 2 slots in the 360 version over a decade ago lol.
>>737917374>don't they need to doAfter they """remastered""" Berseria Bamco clearly doesn't give a fuck and just do whatever they want
>>737917373Do it, anon. I always play the console Tales titles with my bro and it's fun as fuck,
>>737917909>played the undub >mfw realized JP Reid and Keele is Athrun and Kira
>>737917374Nigga even they know releasing Zesty is a waste of everyones time.
>>737917909Nah.
maybe it's one of those console archives ports like cool boarders
>>737919349They rereleased Berseria.
Cool. Now they need to do the same for Destiny, Abyss and Phantasia. It would also be nice to see Crestoria as a proper Tales of entry too.
>>737910119Anything but porting Tales of the Abyss
>>737910119sweet
>>737917909You now remember Reid's death scream.
We're really never getting Abyss remastered are we
>>737910119insider here, legendia is next
>>737910119oh fuck off! i am currently playing Eternia (am at the part when i finally traveled back to Infernia) i didn't think they will remaster it nowoh well since am too deep i'll just continue playing, if only the news about the remaster leaked earlier.....
Phantasiabros....
>>737922083Legarbagia (and Tempest) is the only Tales that didn't get any re-release
>Mfw someone bought my copy of Destiny 2 on ebay for $300
>>737918892Every tales remasters are on xbox ps sw and pc.
>>737921487For Europe, Eternia was released after Symphonia.
>>737922330Yeah keep playing. The game won't release before september/october.
>>737922083it's coming after the next symphonia remaster
>>737918892scamco are retards but not that retarded bro
>>737910119I was replaying the game on psp and the eggbear scene was kinda on the nose huh>bloody background>that one NPC that says she left her partner behind to distract the beast
why do i have this sense of foreboding that they're releasing every Tales game to date before they release the next one that may or may not be their last ?also will this be digital or physical?>>737918040i always knew there was something hot about her.
>>737910119Oh great, i loved this one! Farah was my TifaIs there some nintendo direct coming?
>release date april 16,2026it's already the 30th around the world.
>>737910119Odds they'll fuck it up with shitty AI upscaling and LOOKING GOODs? I've never played Eternia but it's got one of my favorite JRPG OPs.Has there been any recognition of Destiny by Bamco global at all? Maybe there's hope afterall for Destiny 2...
>>737910119Wow an old game cool
>>737917643I can't believe they turned Stahn into Leon's Swordian and left him like that forever after Crestoria died. One of the cooler ideas that deserved a proper game for desu.
>>737918040Illustrated by WHO?
>>737910119Good, now do Abyss with updated FMVs
>>737922457If they just wanted to play it they could've emulated it for free.
>>737926150the manga was open ended and vicious apparently merged with the MC or he unlocked his own edgelord persona.
>>737910119I don't expect them not to rape it with AI filters and shit.
What happened to making new games?
>>737914391Yes, I can easily imagine Bamco pulling that shit.
>>737926448Do you want another Arise?
>>737926356was it true that the guest Tales characters got completely removed from the manga/continuity? is it worthwhile picking up the manga as a standalone as well? I think this is the last game Mutsumi designed for which is a bit of a shame it had to be a phone gacha...
>>737926448They are, they just take five years now. Or more.
>>737910119What a weird ass pick for an old game remaster. Why not play the safe route?
>>737926448didn't they fucking lose most their dev team after the team Destiny/Symphonia merger and it kept getting worse through the years with Bamco incompetency
Why is Rokurou's 3rd break soul and mystic so damn hard to pull off compared to everyone else?
Hopefully either Destiny + Destiny 2 is next and or Phantasia next year
Still waiting for Abyss/Xillia 2/Destiny
>>737926547Phantasia has a million ports and remasters.
>>737926514yes completely. as for the manga. it ended several years ago with no sign of sequel.
>>737926547Phantasia deserves a full remake.
>>737926816Sorry, best we can afford is a Destiny reskin.
>>737926754I see thanks. A bit sad seeing they had some interesting takes on the Tales characters we'll never get an ending to.
>>737926649>Destiny + Destiny 2Did you learn absolutely nothing from Xillia? They're not shipping the two together.
what if Phantasia ends with a 3D remake
FEEBUREEL
>luminariaRelease: November 4, 2021End of Service: July 19, 2022
any day now
>>737926991Xillia 2 sucks and anyone who likes it is a contrarian.
How the fuck is Capcom doing at least decently while Bamco is fumbling so bad? Like imagine a Tales that looks like MHS3.
>>737927029wrong
>>737926547Because they contracted the tales remasters to multiple studios and whatever comes out fastest is the one that gets completed earliest. That's why berseria remaster came out recently because it was the fasted of the batch that came out. Now it's eternia since the other remasters need more and more work.
>>737917908>She was only good in Narikiri X.She sucked there too Narikiri X's story is so much worse than the original
>the game that got falsely localized as Destiny II with all the skits cut out because they just didn't feel like trying to write all that shit in english or redub it since probably strict JP timings>then got re-released on PSP with the proper name.. in EU, not the US, and with a crippling bug depending on your copy that crashes after the Volt fight without failThis game is cursed. No way a third release won't have some horribad shit like LOOKIN GOOD sprite filters or awful changes. Or yet again lacking skits.
haha what if abyss remaster got announced next and they got all the original voice actors back to voice the skits in english?
>Doomposters already trying to stir up narratives and shit on the remaster before its even released >Abyssfags angry that their game isn't getting remasteredzoomer tales fans have to be the biggest fags on the planet. either shut up and buy the game or don't>I'll pirate itwe know, muhammad
>>737927390>dubfag
>>737927674*pees in your mouth*
>>737927029Literally the best combat system in the franchise.
>>737927785>give all the mandatory tools to Ludger so nobody else is worth usingNot even better than Xillia 1 never mind all the other infinitely better combat systems like Graces or Vesperia.
>>737926991Xillia2gods will be eating good soon.
>>737927741>more doompostingwe dont even have screenshots yet. shut up and dont buy it if you have namco so much
>>737928064hate*
>>737928093better than seething about shit online for no reason. consumers are happy, ragebaiting schizophrenics like you arent
>>737926448The Bandai Namco games division (devs and management) sucks major balls when it comes to their own IPs. All the gachas aside, the Arise DLC flopped despite the base game selling pretty well. This means that the covid boost that caused Arise's good sales was just a fluke. It also didn't help that the DLC came out 2 years later as well. So in order to reinvigorate interest in the series before releasing a brand new entry, they decided to kickstart low effort remasters to the lowest bidders. That's why there's three different shitty studios all remastering different games, to get them out faster.Problem is that there's no marketing and the ports are shit and for some reason they are still shafting the Switch 1 and 2 ports when they should be the most important ones because nobody in Japan has a fucking PS5 and PS4 ports don't sell anymore. Now they're spending time shitting out a low-effort Arise port for the Switch 2 and when that flops they'll pull out their trump card (Abyss remake).
>>737928153Tales of Arise was pretty mediocre, so selling a DLC that's just an unnecessary story extension and literally zero gameplay reason to ever touch it was pathetic.
>>737928194You are now
Aw fuck the Arise schizo is back replying to himself again
>>737928285I like the Berseria guy. He took a shit game like Zestiria and made a fun thing out of it somehow. That's skill.
>>737928332That is not how you spell Arise schizo
>>737928285I literally never see anyone see anything good about Arise that wasn't coming from a tourist that has played any other games. I'd say like 80% of the game's sales are people who aren't Tales fans.
>>737928409I'm a Tales fan and I bought it because I can't see the future so I thought it would be good.
>>737910119How come PEGI age rating is less retarded than ESRB?
i always wanted to play berseria but never bought it because of denuvo. now that i dont care about denuvo that much they released the demaster and used it as an excuse to stop doing sales for berseria. every key site i try has this retarded nigger dynamic pricing that cancels my fucking order every time i try to buy a decently priced key. i am fucked
>>737928658that's why I console game. I don't trust anything but physical media.
The original is a beautiful game, they'll probably make it look like shit.
>>737928409Funny enough that's exactly what Bamco wanted. They just expected older Tales fans to just deal with it and keep consuming + the Arise newfags to stick around, and neither really happened. I don't even know what Bamco's plan is besides coast on Elden Ring/Fromsoft forever. Code Vein 2 was a welcome surprise I guess but it came out too late to make a splash so it flopped. Time Stranger did pretty well for a Digimon game but even then it's still probably not as big as they'd hoped, considering the marketing and the budget being higher than any previous Digimon game effort beforehand. The anime arena games sucked and flopped. SAO games are low-effort but pays for itself I guess. The Sony Japan Studio games remasters flopped. Their gachas flop. If it wasn't for Dragonball spics and Fromsoft, Bamco would be sweating bullets by now.
>>737927390Well they got everyone back to voice the unvoiced skits for the Graces f remaster (besides Miss "I'm too good for anime games now" Bailey of course), so it's not completely out of the question
>>737917909Reid not being voiced by Sly Cooper is not my Reid.
>>737927752
>>737927835>>give all the mandatory tools to Ludger so nobody else is worth usingThat's general the issue with most Tales games - the protagonist is simply better than all the other characters. Especially the older ones like Symphonia where there's no reason to play anyone other than Lloyd and Kratos.
>>737910119Tales of REMASTERSTales of dead IP
>>737929412I played the original code vein and it was a really REALLY shitty souls clone with quite possible some of the most atrocious level design in a soulslike I have ever played. I imagine all of their other anime games are the same, but also that they are incredibly low budget so they always make money by baiting in weebs. Like you had this board shilling pretty hard for CV2, but I guarantee you it was shit.
Abyss never ever cuz that game is dogshit
>>737930286>Like you had this board shilling pretty hard for CV2It's genuinely impressive the sheer amount of fanfiction retards here will make up and then treat like objective reality. I've never seen a game more unfairly shat on by fucking everyone than CV2. Nobody was fucking shilling it you lying kike.
>>737918040I will now buy your Eternia remaster
>>737927741Fuck off already, atlustrash
>>737910119>not just emulatingUnreal.
>>737910119With this many 3rd party games being rated for Switch/2 you’d think Nintendo would have a Partner Showcase at least
>>737932242This is the one time it's justified because we still don't have a definitive version of Eternia. I'm sure they'll fuck it up somehow, but this would give us an English version with the skits and multiplayer.
>>737932242They have a PSP port that was already widescreen natively, they just have to tweak that and bam. It's virtually identical to PS1 otherwise as far as I know, besides certain bugs, and the localization reused in the European version, lack of skits included.
>>737910119>the best 3D Tales game is getting a remaster hopefully with restored SkitsTales bros we're going home.https://youtu.be/50gvxwni918
>>737932261Direct is no longer a thing, tthey already shifted their marketing to Nintendo Today app.
>>737933041I wish the full version of this song had the same guitar sound as the opening version.
>>737933041Eternia is 2D you colossal retard and you are funny if you think scamco will put effort on those skits for you westoids.
>>737933135They did Tales of Vesperia's entire PS3-exclusive content suite plus more even if the dubbing was pretty shonky business involved. They'd get crucified by the fans if Eternia got left as is, but at that point you're practically getting a redub or new voices that would be even more jarring.
>>737917263>he keeps the wrongly localized Arte names from his game, so while Guy correctly uses Sword Rain: Alpha, Reid uses Neo SwarmSOVL
>>737926816Another one, you mean?
Phantasia demake but with Tales of Arse gameplay you rike?
>>737933449I mean that far back in the series, unless you're playing Phantasia X or know about the Manual Ring in the middle ports between, Arise is an earnest improvement. And I hate saying that. It really did take until Eternia to seriously make the 2D games good for combat, and everything's built from that since.
>>737933224The is nothing correctly localized about "Sword Rain: Alpha". That name also is fucking ridiculus when fantranslators insert it into games where there aren't multiple kinds of sword rains.
>>737927029You're wrong and gay and anyone that dislikes it even though it's a lofty improvement is the true contrarian.
>>737927662>Abyss>zoomerThe fuck.
>>737933135I mistyped you colossal fucking nigg- sorry friend, the 3's right next to the 2.https://youtu.be/T-_6NeHmeM0
>>737933574Correctly localized as in Sword Rain: Alpha has been the correctly localized name for 秋沙雨 for 23 years, yes.>muh Autumn SandstormIt is what it is.
>>737933078They won’t announce Tales of Eternia remaster in the Nintendo Today app
All this and yet they won't remaster and localize Tales of the World trilogy in full
>>737910119>inb4 it's just the PSP version with no improvements whatsoever
>>737934205beyond what was missing and the volt crash, does it even need improvements
>>737934205Don't worry they will add some lookin good filter
>>737934227Didn't the game run at 30 FPS even on the PSP?Also yeah, the missing skits.
>>737933041You must've forgotten that Phantasia and Destiny are 2D too.
Sweet another game no one bought or played and no one will buy or play again gta6 when??
>>737934290Eternia's better than either thoughever.
>>737922083I'd think it'd be a remake at this point, but if Eternia is possible then that Remaster is definitely on its way.
Bamco is too lazy nowadays to make separate japan/global versions and japan would riot if they removed skits from their version.
>>737926816It has 3 at least
>>737927029Xillia*Xillia 2 saved the unsalvageable
>>737934575I genuinely don't think they have the budget to spare for full Tales remakes at all anymore anyway. Bamco is such an absolute fucking tightass on budgeting that it's a shock they're even allowing another Ace Combat.
>>737928409It is. It's pretty clear most Arise fans never played or cared about Tales before.
>>737917806I love brown anime women so much it's unreal
Cool but I dont trust bamco, the port will either be shit or worse than the OG or 60 bucks or all of that at the same time
>>737934284No, the PSP version ran at 60fps, unlike the PS1 version. The originak really ran at 30fps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNxkPr-b9X4
These remaster usually use same build in all region and release simultaneously worldwide, so we're guaranteed to get skits back right?
>>737935026It's literally an easy selling point to long-time fans to tout the complete package. If that's not there, something is horribly fucked.
Wasn't Abyss one of the bigger games back in the day?
>>737935149Abyss came out much later than Eternia, but yeah, I do think it was when the series came together in a technical point and it became the blueprint for pretty much every other 3D game in the series after.
>>737910119I got a few hours into this game but it just kind of felt like symphonia 0.5 gameplay wise
>>737935149In terms of game size I wouldn't be able to tell you second hand, but if we're talking popularity where Symphonia turned heads in the west albeit as a Gamecube exclusive over here versus Japan at least getting a (shit) PS2 port, Abyss was the game that put the franchise on the map overseas. It's STILL remembered as the most popular game in many circles, contending with Symphonia, Vesperia, and the occasional Xillia outliers. I'm sure it's a lot more complicated and nuanced for favorites in Japan, though.
>>737934824
>>737935363>Abyss was the game that put the franchise on the map overseas.symphonia outsold it by a lot in the west despite being on a console with way less sales and way less jrpgs
>>737935486To be fair it's also been released twice over now versus a game that had a 3DS port at best and not many people cared to get it there.
>>737935560I was talking strictly gamecube vs ps2
Tales of Microbikinis
>>737935149It tested the PS2 disc limits in terms of varied content, yeah. You now remember the Keterburg casino or the entirety of Nam Cobanda Isle being extras.
>>737928318>I like the Berseria guy. He took a shit game like Zestiria and made a fun thing out of it somehow. That's skilllollmao even
>graces F>xillia 1>Berseria >now EterniaThis makes no sense, it's like they are picking which ones get remastered via lottery.
But no really, where is the NEW game?
>>737935765Berseria is the only one random af, the others were>Wii jail>PS3 jail>Old
>>737935765All remasters are outsourced to different companies and supposedly commissioned around the same time, so the idea is they're being announced/released as they're finished That's why a glorified port like Berseria comes out sooner than a game that'd need more work like Eternia or Abyss.
>>737935765Most people who played Eternia rated it as the best Tales of game so it makes sense to remaster it.
>>737934472Eternia is only better than Legendia, Destiny 2, Tempest, Xillia 2 and Zestiria. Eternia is the Symphonia of 2D Tales games ("it's THE BEST Tales game, I swear, no I didn't play the others, why do you ask?").
>>737936085You can't seriously believe that Eternia was not a massive improvement than Destiny. The combat in Eternia is much more fun since it moves at a faster speed and you can now chain several basic attacks together before using a skill. Also bosses don't all die in 10 seconds thanks to the added higher difficulty settings which is something Destiny would have desperately needed.
>overworld map>great soundtrack>great party members>great bosses>tons of secret location>has VA when FF doesn't>you can customize your own ship!Shame it's really underrated compared to FF series. Honestly I think Eternia is the best jrpg on PS1.And the music man it's bring back memorieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wK2IrvEXok&list=RD9wK2IrvEXok&start_radio=1
>>737936085>Eternia is the Symphonia of 2D Tales games ("it's THE BEST Tales game, I swear, no I didn't play the others, why do you ask?")That's either Phantasia or Destiny DC.
>>737926605Correct.There's a reason why people call Xillia (or if you want, when they chose Ufotable as main animation studio) the beginning of nu-Tales. Graces was the last game when the studios were still separate.
>>737911539Hey, just because everyone deluded themselves into thinking the next remaster is gonna be Abyss doesn't mean that's what's gonna happen. I wouldn't be against it, but an Eternia remaster is just as welcome. Practically anything that hasn't been released on an HD console is.
>>737928281>play this game back in the day when PSP piracy was based>gameplay is fucking dogshit and the devs run out of ideas halfway through the game, opting to just make bosses invincible when they feel like it instead of making them legitimately challenging>story is "racism bad mmkay lmao" + "you know that bitch you've been obsessed with forever? you can't even tell when she gets mind swapped with someone else, faggot">like skits? this game front loads them every single time a story flag trips, wasting 5-10 minutes of your life on repetitive, inane drivel>English translation comes out recently>no one fucking plays it>the few people who did realized the game fucking sucks, actuallyFuck Tales of Rebirth.
I do wish they would remaster Breaker, Commons and Wahrheit instead.
>Eternia is one of my fav psx jrpgs>decided to play the other ones in the series>start with Vesperia because people were raving about it>drop the game after 50h then played abother 50h a year after>moved onto other games instead and dropped the series for good fuck everyone who thinks this bloated mess of a game is good
>>737936574This is just a case of>you only like it because you played it when you were youngTales of sludge is exactly this kind of series where the first one you play, particularly during your youth, sets the tone in your mind for what the series is "about".This is why Tales of Symphonia ruined the series for most people.
It feels surreal seeing people saying Eternia is one of the best Tales game when it's very rarely mentioned when people discussing the series.
>>737936694It's old and set up the groundwork for realtime battles without the spell lock which later entries used later. Also, it's in PS1 hell for non-Japanese and the PSP version generally requires comprehension of moonrunes.
>>737936676I replayed Eternia multiple times since I bought it over 20 years ago and still think it's a good jrpg, just like Legend Of Legaia, another game I like to replay once in a while.
>>737936694Because people most often discuss the 3D titles like Symphonia, Abyss, Vesperia, Graces, Xillia, Berseria etc. and the 2D ones tend to be talked about only when discussing combat which is when Destiny DC is discussed. Until recently, Rebirth wasn't available in English and the same is true still of Destiny 2 or Hearts DS. All of that makes Eternia be in a bit of a weird spot where it deserves more discussion than it tends to get.
>>737936957>it's in a a weird spot where it deserves more discussion than it tends to get because, well, like... b-because I PERSONALLY like it, OK!? GOD!!!
>>737936303>no, youBut the fact is, it's always Eternia, Symphonia and Vesperia fans who act like that, not fans of the other Tales games.
>>737935765They literally said they have to dig up old source code and rework it for the remaster projects. This selection isn't random at all if you consider the fact that the first three are so recent, they had a release on the PS3/PS4 already. They're what you get when you scratch the surface. The further we go back in time, the harder it'll be for Bamco to make a working game out of whatever they dig up.
>>737937025Symphonia rehashes a lot of story queues from Eternia, anon.
>>737936694It has a few fans who sometimes bring it up as one of their favourites. You just have to listen to people other than loud shitposters.
>>737937025I'm sorry you're malding, anone.
>>737928409Arise is good.
>>737937270Yeah, that's about all people say about why it's good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grAV6i_T0yUTALES OF COLETTE 4K CEL SHADING REMAKE WHEN?
>>737936957Is Hearts DS translation still in limbo? I remember playing it until Kunzite joins and it was way better than the Vita version, but stopped because I can't read shit.
>>737937687Unfortunately yes, who knows when Lifebottle will come around to it.
>play Destiny 1 (japanese)>halfway through the game>where are the skits? i thought this game added them>leave game idle on overworld to get food>party starts talkingare you fucking kidding me? i fucking missed all the skits for like half the game. do they only introduce the button prompts in the ps2 games or does eternia prompt you for skits?
>>737938049Phantasia PS1 added the regular select button skits. Eternia uses select for navigation skits and a camp option to see the regular kind where they swap ghost stories.
Why is there a whole bunch of Eternia porn where one very specific artist keeps feminizing Reid?
>>737939846Himbofication is a very real thing anon
>>737934684Feel like it'd make them money if they did, but yeah... they kneecap a lot of things for no reason when it could actually make some easy money. Abyss doesn't need a remake, but I feel like it shouldn't have taken them so long for a remaster when the 3DS was still kiiiinda recent.
>>737910119WE WON!
Is Tales of Rebirth any good, anons?
>>737911397loli*
>>737940097No, the combat is a weird clusterfuck with no dedicated healing spells but somehow every attack heals you?
Tales faggots.
>>737911207SpbpThe PS1 era is the console generation is the one in most need of remakes / remasters. How we have not received a MegaMan Legends collection is sickening.
>>737940097It's decent but the combat is really weird and definitely would take time to get used toThe story is every racism plot in every other Tales of game cranked to elevenI'd say give it a go especially if you're familiar already with the franchise.
I always thought it was interesting how Eternia does the usual Japanese genius vs hard worker trope. Farah ends up having a melty because she's a girl and even at the physical peak she gets mogged by Rid sitting around all day picking his nose just because he's a guy. It's not something that's usually addressed. >>737940097It's like if Team Symphonia made a Destiny game. The first arc is really good but the game turns into an Abyss thing where you just go back and forth between towns watching heavy-handed cutscenes about the same thing for 30 hours. The foundation of the combat is strong, despite what the other anon said having a fully self sufficient party is interesting, but it never evolves and you're doing the same thing every battle from the start til the end.
>>737911821it has skits, they were just cut in the english release
>>737940097First Arc's good and keeps you moving forward. Second Arc is utter dogshit until its last 5%. Third Arc is good again. Hilda is my wife.
>>737935149Still is, along Symphonia, Vesperia and Graces F. There are a lot of things to unlock.
>>737937052Not really, it's Symphonia, Abyss and Vesperia. Eternia is hardly popular to be defended like that.
>>737936085Eternia mogs all the other 2D Tales games combined
>>737940221>>737940478Was the weird battle the reason why it's not translated back then?
>>737941220Far as I know it's because they thought coming from Symphonia there wouldn't be enough western interest in a 2D game for the PS2 compared with Legendia or Abyss which were 3D.
>>737941220I think Rebirth and Destiny 2 are the only untranslated Tales titles left...
>>737941220Nah, I would assume it's the usual "3D new and good 2D old and bad" mentality
>>737936694Well, some people have played Destiny R, Rebirth or Phantasia X by now and realized how underwhelming the japanese exclusive titles were, so it's easy to say that Eternia IS the best 2-D Tales.
>>737941220Some unlockable chests in the game required understanding japanese idioms.
>>737912054>hory shit a remaster of a 2d game for once???Secret of mana says "Hi".
>>737941525That was a remake. And we're talking about Bamco and its treatment of Tales.
>>737941451Rebirth was okay, haven't played Phantasia X, but I legit loved Destiny DCSad that so many people get filtered by the last dungeons marathon
>>737941628>MiktranI always thought it was supposed to be Kronos...
oh boyi can't wait to see how shit it is
>>737941378There are 4 mainline titles left untranslated>Destiny 2>Breaker>Commons>Wahrheitand all spinoffs except for Radiant Mythology 1 which somehow did get a translation.
>>737941679Kronos is MiktranGarr is WoodrowKaryl is JohnnyBruiser Khang is Mighty KongmanMax is FogKor is Shing
>>737941628Thank you anon I feel like I'm taking crazy pills sometimes. Dycroft is my favorite final dungeon in anything, it's the perfect final test of everything the game does well.
>>737941761>Breaker>Commons>Wahrheitno one cares about these mobile slopDestiny 2, Hearts (DS), Radiant Mythology 3 are the only remaining untranslated Tales games worth playing
>>737941761The original and remake versions of Innocence and Hearts are different enough to count as different games so some could count>Hearts (DS)>Innosence Rtoo.
>>737941378Mainline-wise, we're missing Hearts as well. We have fan translated Tempest, we have fan translated Innocence and fan translated Innocence R, and we have officially translated Hearts R.
>>737941863If RM3 is worth playing, RM2 is worth playing. RM2 even has a better story.
>>737910119Fucking ETERNIA of all things? WHY?
>>737941895is Innocence R really that different?i skipped the DS version because am waiting to get a better laptop to emulare the Vita remake
Tales of Destiny 2 NEVER EVER
>>737941923Only for the playable roster, especially fans of Van.
>>737941923do people really care about Tales spinoffs?like i have never seen anyone here talking about that SRPG spinoff on the 3DS (and it had a fan translation)
>>737928153What’s wrong with the switch ports? I was just about to buy them.
>>737941895Innocence R is translated.>>737942024Yes. The original Innocence is built off of Radiant Mythology 1 (which itself is built off of Abyss), and shares a lot of its systems down to each character being somewhat of a copy of RM1 classes. Innocence R has a completely new system built from the ground up.
>>737918040Damn shame
So why did they translate Eternia as Destiny 2?
>>737942154Nobody cared for Reve Unitia because it was turn-based. And the assets were PSP-tier dogshit. The only good things about it were the OP animation and the OST being by Go Shiina, including the OP and ED.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thai85GoNSIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VVAhzxUzg4
>>737942341>Destiny 2They didn't. It was Destiny II.And blame He-man owners for copyright over the word Eternia.
>>737942341To get fans of Tales of Destiny to buy it.
>>737942154Reve Unitia is a boring game and that translation is pure slop on top of being incomplete.
>>737942341because the localizers believed the gaijin scum were too stupid to know ''Tales of'' was a franchise not just a random generic name in the title
>>737942154Creating your own custom party out of every Tales game's hero cast is pretty neat.
>>737942154>do people really care about Tales spinoffs?>SRPG spinoff on the 3DSyou realize you just answered your own question
>>737941628>Phantasia XIs it different from other Phantasia? I actually finished Phantasia once but I don't even remember which version I played. There are so many...
>>737942605It's the Abyss's melon, Legendia MC, Phantasia's archer? and ...who is the last one?
>>737942636Remake of Phantasia.Came with Narikiri Dungeon X.Shoehorns Rondoline (playable) into various parts of the story.New sprites for the playable characters.No spell freeze. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>>737942705Your customizable player character
>>737941761The mobile games never were mainline games, cope.
>>737942705The Descender which is (You)r player unit.
>>737942729>Narikiri Dungeon X.daily remainder this is the best 2D Tales game but you faggots are not ready for this conversation yetonce the fan translation is complete you will realize this by yourselves
>>737942636It's Phantasia PS1 but with the GBA sidequests and a new party member that doesn't fit at all and makes the plot worse in the form of >>737917806
>>737942232Graces is goodSymphonia is bad (but that remaster was fucked in general)Vesperia is passableXillia had issues across the board, i dont know if they fixed that oneNo one said anything about Berseria
>>737941761>Breaker>Commons>Wahrheit>mainline titles
>>737942838>Symphonia is badno it's not, the released a couple of patches fixing the port issues
>>737942943He's talking about the Switch version.And Cyclone still uses the Healing Wind animation and crams all 12 hits within one second.
Tales ost are so bad. What the fuck is wrong with the composer? I knew it's the same composer without looking by how bland and samey it was.
>>737943115If you think the older games have bad osts then you need your ears checked. Its not until around the PS360Wii era that they dropped the ball.
>>737943115Anon. Sakuraba went downhill after Abyss (maybe even earlier for some people).Go Shiina composes some other tracks and lots of Tales players like his music.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i61klPfKeNw&list=PL6812E46CC30B40BF&index=13
Who is the hardest of hardest Tales's superbosses? For me, it's the dog/wolf in Vesperia.
are the Tles of the World games good?2 and 3 are fully translated on GBA and from what i saw the gameplay is similar to Eternia
>>737943259>superboss>that
>>737943241I actually like Legendia a lot especially the character's side story arc but found out later a lot of people HATED it. Why?
>>737943259>dog/wolfWhich one again? I don't remember
>>737943293If you want engaging combat, no. NariDun 2 and 3 are watered down versions of Eternia. They're slower and there's no comboing. Basically only play them if you want series fanservice (not the lewd kind), and even then only do that after going through the Radiant Mythologies since they do that way better.
>>737943430He's talking about Gattuso from the demo.>>737943378It's the gameplay that's the problem and probably the fact that the localized version didn't voice the second half of the game.
>>737943241The first game with a pretty weak track overall is Xillia. Graces/Vesperia still had a decent soundtrack, especially on the combat end.https://youtu.be/Mse2wY4EMSAhttps://youtu.be/fqxxOojTfkEhttps://youtu.be/WCcZGrzKaLQ
>>737943430I don't remember..is it supposed to be dragon? it's the king of something in the game
>>737943463You can still do the 3x > base > arcane thing in Naridun2/3. 3 in particular is unique since its a strategy game.
I want to replay Eternia on PSP. Anyone has a cheat code to enable Maniac difficulty without having to beat the game first? I don't have any old savegame and Hard is too easy.
>>737943345I don't know. It was very hard for me. The nine tail/heads? are so troublesome.
>>737943378Gameplay is awful.
>>737943545I'm way too lazy to go check myself but I'm like 95% certain you can't chain regular attacks into artes nor any artes into any other artes in both games.
>>737937094Phantasia had a iOS port in 2014 and multiple versions. It was more likely to have the source code than Eternia.
>>737943528Dragon? still no idea. I thought the hardest boss in Vesperia was Duke unlimited mode or something. Don't remember any dragon.
>>737943550gamefaqs save files, download and put it in your psp https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/psp/920817-tales-of-eternia/saves
>>737943528>>737944021PS3 version and on had the Entelexia king or something in the new dungeon.
>>737943115Zestiria had an amazing soundtrackhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvjcQMxwZLg
>>737943378Because the combat is worse than Eternia level, there's 10 enemy types and 2/3 of the game is going in and out dungeons you've already beaten before.
>>737944178The only good songs in that game are from Go Shiina. Not Sakuraba.
>>737941451Yeah I remember everyone helping up Destiny 2 and Rebirth, but they are just okay. Eternia is definitely the best of the classic tales and arguably the biggest Tales game in terms of sheer content. I really hate how starting with Symphonia/Rebirth Bamco stopped focusing on having a huge open world with tons of secret quests/locations.
>>737944121I look it up with your Entelixia king key word and yeah it's called Spiral Draco. I remember it took me a lot of time to beat it back then so it was the hardest superboss for me.
>>737928409I like the watercolour aesthetic
>>737944395If that's what you were talking about as the "dog/wolf" thing, then I apologize because secondaries constantly meme Gattuso's difficulty as too hard.
The best Tales game is always the one you didn't play so in this case...it's Destiny 2 It's actually pretty bad game kek
>>737944635>spoilerNot if you're a magic supremacist.
>>737944545Yeah it's has been so long and I remember it as dog/wolf because it doesn't look like a dragon for me.
>>737911946Bro have you seen the state of Tales "remasters", you think they're gonna have the budget to do HD2D, we'll be lucky if there's no framerate problems lmao
>>737944814Literally only Graces was the good remaster and t was the first one of the 3 (4 with the upcoming Eternia).
>>737926738>Phantasia has a million ports and remasters.And the only ones released in english are...the GBA version, which is absolutely dreadful and even worse than the SNES original, and the iOS version, which was a free-to-play microtransaction hell and is no longer playable anyway.For being the humble beginnings of the series and getting the love of remastering it multiple times, they ever gave the west the worst possible versions.
>>737910119It was Abyss’s turn
>>737943378>I actually like Legendia a lotIs that you Legendianon?Have you finally returned?
>>737944920>Cress
>>737944920Bamco has historically always favoured their domestic market so I don't think they care, especially since ToP wasn't even that popular in the West.
>>737944920Probably why the remaster project had a lot of hype when it was first announced. People were expecting bamco to at least bring some of the JP exclusives to the west. Yeah it was pure copium.
>>737945372Why is Bamco like this?
>>737945505Baba
>>737944635>>737944693>They didnt raise accuracy on the meleesSmh anons
>>737940348Megaman had no gaems last decade, it's different from Tales that had regular releases during the first half of 10's at the very least. The 3rd-latest Megaman game is from 2008 and the 3rd-latest Tales game is Zestiria (and they remastered Berseria somehow).
>>737945505My schizo theory is that they don't want people realizing how shitty most of the franchise is. Like people were holding up Rebirth and Destiny 2 as the peak of 2D tales for decades and now that they're both playable we realized they're just shit.
>>737910119Bandainiggas will remaster everything besides Abyss
>>737945678Destiny 2 wasn't playable before this? Did Bamco finally patched the game on the PS2 20 years later?
>>737945728
>>737944635The literal only bad part about Destiny 2 is how Destiny characters are treated.
>>737945757I think they meant translation patches
>>737945678Stupid team symphonia baby
>>737945870Destiny 2 STILL doesnt have a translation patch. Destiny DC was only ever praised the combat and barely anyone talked about Rebirth beyond memeing Veigue, so that guy is full of shit.
>>737945728>>737945810Symphonia is way more in need of a remaster so get in line cucks.>b-b-but muh PS3 which literally changed nothing but slightly upscaled the graphicsno
>>737945870I thought Destiny 2 didn't have ENG patch yet?
>>737945870Yeah and Destiny 2 doesn't have one.I mean at least that anon admits he's a schizo retard, so he probably just forgot his meds and having an episode.
>>737945945>Symphonia is way more in need of a rema-Anon for your own good I'm not even gonna finish reading that sentence.
>>737945930>barely anyone talked about Rebirth beyond memeing Veigue,Nah I remember everyone praising its combat. I actually remember watching a ton of combo showcases in obscure online Tales forums back in highschool.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6qhYYnwbSA
>>737945930What is so memeable about Veigue?
>>737946043Its combat is worth praising.>>737946048KUREA
>>737945873Hating popular things doesn't make you cool.
>>737943378>>737944947HOPE SPRINGS ETERNALbut yeah, I can with certainty say legendia ain't getting remastered or remade
>>737946048If you look at the script literally half his dialogue is some variation of, "CLAIRE".
>>737946048>he doesn't knowhttps://youtu.be/73WNUgRBHcI?t=411https://youtu.be/69SmvbpaYUU?t=46
>>737946043>>737946048Rebirth's combat is unique but all of that got overshadowed by Veigue saying Claire's name over 200 times in one playthrough.https://youtu.be/69SmvbpaYUU
>>737945873Symphonia is great
>>737946216Did Bamco really get all the old Tales VAs in a room to record goofy shit like this?
Are they going to retranslate it, record a new dub, and restore the skits or will it just be the PSP version with the addition of pic-related? Eternia is legitimately my favorite Tales game so it would be nice to actually get a new definitive edition.
>>737946413They still do every year. It's just not in video games anymore.
>>737946449>the PSP version with the addition of pic-related?holy macaroni, they gonna add donkey kong in the game?
>>737946224I like the concept behind Rebirth, in that you don't just spam your strongest artes and orange gels every fight and can't just spam attacks or else your FG gets too high and you get assraped encouraging a nice balance of aggression and defense, but in practice it was really clunky and to this day I still don't understand what the fuck they were thinking making Annie a healer who can't heal on demand in a game where everyone is a self-healer.
>>737946216i mean this is not really memeful, this game was never released beyond japan, no one played it
>>737946672So what's the point of Annie in combat?
>>737945971>>737945950oh I just assumed the TD2 fan translation was finally done>we're in the editting phase>last post 2 years agoeverytime
>>737946767Think of her as a cleanser/buffer/debuffer. Unfortunately the AI can't use her properly.
>>737910119>Demon Fang>Demon Fang>Double Demon FangThe kid me back then loved that shit. Can't wait to demon fang some egg bears.
>>737946672Annie has to be one of the weirdest character in the seriesWhen you want her to be useful she just keeps dyingWhen you expect nothing from her she somehow puts the right circles in the right places at the right moments and it throws you off your rhythm.
>>737910119damn I was unironically about to start a new playthrough of Eternia after being disappointed with Vesperia and Graces. Guess I gotta wait for at least the announcement to see if I should bother
>>737946965Erm, ackshually, it was called Sonic Blade in Eternia.
>>737946672>>737946767>>737946867Annie's circles apply buffs/debuffs, removes the corresponding ailment and most importantly passively heals while you're in them.However, her AI will wait for the circle to wear off before using the next one, so paradoxically, the increased circle time cube is bad for her. Use WIDE + chase enemy/follow annie on Life/Charge and the put Drag Leben/Rise Elixir in the other two slots. She has the easiest time getting ougi points too.I forgot which accessories are the best for her.Still generally easier to just form a diamond formation and run Melee + Mao/Hilda + Filler in most fights because Mao can effectively heal by spamming Gusty Nail + Misty + Mist Accessory.
>>737910119>there are people ITT who played Eternia in PS1go back to bed, unc
Not all characters are good in EterniaReid is simple and boring. though, you would need to play as him at some battlesFarah is top combo character., very interesting to playthen you have 2 casters - Keele is awesome, because you can speed up his casts pressing buttons, and literally spam firebolts. While Meredy is bad, she cannot speed up cast.then you have lots of downtime between new characters. then you have Pirate girl, she is shit, you cannot get skills for her, her spells are shit and her combo is shit.ANd you have Fog, who is Max, he is good to play, when you getting Aqua Spiral.So literally, Max, Farah, Keele are okay to play. And Reid if you are faggot. There are only farah solo combo video on youtube, but keele and max solo playys very good too.
>>737947215OMEGA DEMON CHAOS
>>737942154The Narikiri Dungeon games are pretty good spinoffs and the best ones by far.
>>737947235I never even knew she can put down more than one circle at a time before benching her. Her AI is fucking stupid.
>>737947739What was wrong with Reid? He was just your bog standard tales protag swordsman. Good skills for every situation, decent conbo ability, and nice stats for a frontliner.
>>737947739If I remember correctly there was some endgame dungeon where every character has to solo a floor. Doing this with the spellcasters was a pain so I just run from every random encounter.
>>737947739Most Tales MC are the simple white bread of the team for a reason, so players can just use him if the other characters are too weird/complicated
>>737947970That's the postgame dungeon
>>737947739Everyone in Eternia is fine except for Chat's gimmicky ass who just spams pow hammers and the funny eternal bag thing.Shitting on Reid and Meredy is laughable.
>>737947819NariDun over RM is a wild opinion.
>>737947870The AI is bad for a lot of characters in general. You have to tweak it along with cubes for them to not feel gimped.>>737947954Reid is great and his combos are easy to pick up and play. Farah is proto Regal. Keele has speed cast but Meredy has some funny tech where IIRC you can control Quickie while casting for funny combo jank.https://youtube.com/watch?v=Gzx1vpHatBI
>>737947739I am pretty sure Meredy can fast cast as well.
>>737910119eternia!? wait I thought they were doing abysswell whatever eternia is a good pick
>>737914391they better fucking not. the least they could fucking do is not remove half the content, jesus
>>737948335She trades it for being a puppet character. See the combo video in >>737948282
>>737943829>iOS port>Of the PS1 version>When X existsYeah, no
>>737910389kys.
>>737944489Just about the only thing I could praise about it.
>>737949964Doesn't have to be X, either way.
Reid sexo
>>737933697>completely butchers the story and characters of the first game>completely ruins the balance so there's zero reason to use anyone but Ludger>the single worst example of asset reusing in the entire series so Xillia 2 is incredibly boring to play through if you've recently played 1 cause it's literally all the same shitRetard
>>737926497I hate that this is a legitimate counterpoint >>737940348no capcom shill can fool me, fool me, fool me, there's a Mega on the moon
I miss her so much bros...
>>737951923>completely ruins the balanceYou're going to need to expand on this. If you choose not to engage with power hits it's the same as Xillia's combat without the ability to swap party members in combat, but most characters got extra elements specifically for the power hit system. Everyone can build their own combos even on enemies that have no weaknesses because of power charge. If the complaint is that Ludger is too good compared to everyone else, that's par for the course with the Tales games. Even in Xillia Jude and Milla were leagues above the rest of the party with snap pivot being insane for Jude and Millia being able to get insane air time.
Ludge- I mean Leia's game will SAVE tales https://youtu.be/MsgLQcito_I
Xillia 2 is the only good, non-portable, modern game after Vesperia/Graces.
they should rename the franchise into >tales of remasteredbecause thats all they ever do now
>>737953075It's her male designs that do it for me. Outside the pretty bishounen it's clear she had a lot of range in design and facial variety. The tomboy leads like Rutee were a pretty big staple as well. I miss her like you won't believe...
>>737910119I just finished this game literally 20 days ago. Celestia was the best place in this gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-_6NeHmeM0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z09bwMjF7l4I love these two songs
>>737954000I don't want another Arise, so it's fine.
>>737910119Is this the game where the MC deflect some kind of spirit bomb in the end? I'm not sure if I confusing this game for another one.
>>737954921Against the last boss, yeah
>>737910119Love me some Eternia but I'm not gonna play this lol
>>737936869Legaia is really fun. I regularly play through Legend and Duel Saga. >>737936676Destiny was my first when it released, followed by the DeJap translation of Phantasia. I've played all of the others as they released in the States, with the sole exception being Zestiria. Eternia is my favorite amongst the 2D games, while my favorite 3D game is a tie between Abyss/Vesperia/Graces. It's really hard for me to narrow it down further because each game has a different feel to it despite the basic skeleton being the same.
>>737910119Tales of Eternia has my favorite version of the summons (craymels). Getting a new one felt great because it unlocked new spells but you also got combination spells depending on who was equipped with which Craymels.
>>737954921it's called Genkidama, amerifat
>>737956045Quick, go through the thread and autistically "correct" anyone using the English names of artes too. Sorry, I mean jutsuwaza.
why wont Bamco remaster Abyss bros?
>>737956452>jutsuwazaPretty sure they are called Tokugi and Ougi.
>>737947739Reid is literally one of the coolest swordsmen in the entire series. Especially once you learn arte extensions. Literally a whirlwind of rape.
>>737956906Tokugi, Higi, Ougi and Hi Ougi depending on type but jutsuwaza is the overall group.
>>737955994It has one of my favourite casting systems in general and i also like both casters and their cute "never ask a chud about his gf's skin color" romance
Only good announcement since Graces Remastered in 2024.
>>737954921He has two abilities directly hard countering final boss yeah. I love the one where he dissipates a gigantic fuckoff sword into healing.
>>737941451I finished Destiny DC, Rebirth and Phantasia X, all of them are better than Eternia. Although I still prefer the PSX version of ToP.Over 100 hours, because I leave games running in background a lot.
>>737957275Why was the Graces rerelease so much more effort than any of the rest?
>>737957874TOSE is pretty good. The one that developed Xillia Remastered is a completely random one and the game has glitched Skits.Didn't read anything about Berseria's, but considering it's the second newest game, I doubt they had too much work.
>>737957874Does Chronicles count? Like Vesperia PS3, devs had to do quite a bit of work to also get the additional content translated. And for better or worse, it came packaged with a DotNW with slightly improved visuals as well as every addition the PAL version had.
>>737957857Only thing Destiny R has over Eternia is combat. And Rebirth doesn't even has that.The villains, dungeons and minigames are completely dogshit.
>>737957874I wish I wasnt so surprised that Tales of Graces had actual ultrawide support.
They never nailed overworlds again after Eternia and Symphonia.
>>737958334I don't agree, but two things I need to add:1. I finished Eternia because I liked it. It's not like I think it was shit or anything, I just prefer the other 2d Tales.2. My current opinion is based on whatever memories I still have from playing and finishing it for the first and last time, 15-20 years ago. I am absolutely willing to replay it and change my mind when the remaster is out. If the price is right. I wouldn't pay more than 25 bucks for a cheap remaster of any 2d Tales, even my favourite one.
>>737910119WITH the skits intact I hope. I was shocked to find out all the campfire dialogue was ripped out of the English PSP release because fuck paying VAs lmao (I just watched all scenes in JP on YT afterwards).Not that I'm gonna buy it though, Eternia was fun but not replay again fun.
>>737910119Zestiria Remake soon
>>737951923Sounds like a (You) issue to me.
>>737961491Sounds like you're a brainless fucking retard to me.
>>737961386Isn't her bikini a bit high?
>>737961548Sounds like you're malding now.
>>737961874>be retard>get called retard>YOU'RE SO FUCKING MAD HOLY SHITEvery time. Next you'll say you were merely pretending.
>>737948432>>737948282There's just something so cool about the summons in Eternia. Other games never quite get on this level again somehow.
>>737954000They have already outright said that they're working on a new game, we just won't see it for a bit.
>>737961927Sounds like projection to me tbqhwyf
>>737962227You're right it does sound like you're projecting. Maybe you should work on that.
played it on the psp but must been over 10 years ago.
>>737962028For me, it's Efreet trying and utterly failing to flirt with Celsius.
>>737962284>You're rightI knew that already but it's nice of you to give up. Concession accepted.
after I finish innocence rodds eterniaevens symphonia
>>737913130There's the SNES original(which had a Game Boy "spinoff" that's trash to play, called "Narikiri Dungeon", that's nowhere near as good as Star Ocean Blue Sphere. It had two more sequels and was "Tales Portable" but the first was presented as a "sequel" to ToP, much like Symphonia was a "prequel", and how Eternia was "Destiny 2" in the west)Then a PS1 "remake" that doesn't play like it and doesn't include any of the cut massive gameplay/story content, but adds a different character and skitsWhich had 3 versions based on it that each built on the previous oneGBA: New events, some inspired by skits, plus (average) English localizationPSP Full Voice: GBA content + redone battle sprites + grade systemiPhone: PSP Full Voice minus skits plus easy mode features presented as a pay2win plus (much better) English localizationThen a PSP "remake" that's a very different game gameplay wise, that reprises the same basic storyline but comes bundled with a remake for Narikiri that's basically its own thing. This remake has smudged graphics, very different battle sprites, and YET ANOTHER party member that's shoehorned (besides the ninja girl from PS1 Phantasia) that's a walking plot hole who gets spirited away just before the final boss.
>>737961598Maybe
>>737962438I don't remember Celsius being a loli...
>>737910119Cool. Eternia is the only good Tales game. I'm not a fan of doing remasters instead of doing something new in general, but the odds that the Tales studio can create a new game worth playing in the current age are 0, so I'll take the Eternia remaster.
>>737911408looks like a severe case of skullatosis
>>737941525>Secret of ManaI wish the Brownie Brown remake wasn't cancelled.
>>737963954NariDun is hardly trash. The only objective fault against it is that you're literally forced to grind at a certain point or you won't have enough HP to survive against Dhaos, but it's still fun despite that.
Arise was my first Tales game and I enjoyed it immensely ^_^
>>737926448It has been almost 20 years since the last good tales game, and I think even they understand that at this point.
>>737965668Arise was my 27th Tales game and I enjoyed it slightly.
>>737964703>Those filters
I don't usually get excited for remasters, but this is one of my favorite games of all time despite playing the PSP version that lacked skits. I just hope they don't fuck this up, though as far as I know, they've done an OK job with all the remasters thus far.
>>737965729>Vesperia was 18 years agoI think of a 20yo game, I still think of SNES/PS1.
>>737965824The remasters are all handled by different studios so you can't really use them to predict how the next one will be. The Xillia one was really bad, somehow they bugged out skit triggering and you had to sit and wait for skits to appear for minutes at a time, plus they made directional inputs way too sensitive which would regularly fuck up your combos. Not sure if either of those have been fixed.
>>737910119>you know what Switch needs?>more fucking portswhy are tendies like this
>>737917781Shoehorned new party members in Tales remakes is nothing new>Suzu (ToP, first remake)Robbed Rhea and Rambard, who were planned to be playable.At least she is an NPC even in the original version.>Rondoline (ToP, second remake)Shoehorned fanservice tie-in walking plot hole trash>Lilith Aileron (ToD, remake)Restored planned playable character + fanserviceToD:R and ToD2 added lots of content to "save" Leon> QQ Selezneva + Kongwai Tao (Tales of Innocence R)Two fucking shoehorned characters. Tie into the "Triverse Gate" and meant to tease more remakes.> Gall Gruner + Chalcedony Akerman (Tales of Hearts R)Shoehorned character + NPC upgraded to playable who somehow damages the plot the most> Richard (Tales of Graces R)NPC upgraded to playable, with some weird postgame meant to redeem or make use of him> Flynn + Patty Fleur (Tales of Vesperia PS3/DE)Unfinished game got finished.> Gaius / Muzet (Tales of Xillia)Scrapped from the unfinished original. Were promoted to playable characters in the sequel.> Alishia (Tales of Zestiria)Planned to be a permanent playable character, changed to temporary + DLC character, with remnants of content meant for her taunting the player. Played a part in Hideo Baba's fall.It's actually quite refreshing when rereleases don't do that (like Tales of Symphonia PS2, if only that could get a decent remake/port for once, or Rebirth)
The longer it takes for Abyss to be remastered, t-the more they can learn from past projects and the better the remaster can be, r-right.
>>737936445>just because everyone deluded themselves into thinking the next remaster is gonna be Abyss doesn't mean that's what's gonna happenwho thought it was gonna be next? I'm fully convinced that they'll never remaster it purely out of spite for their fans because bamco seems to hate money
is Abyss better than Vesperia? Cause I got Vesperia on sale and its not that great
>>737967023I'd say so yeah.
>>737922083The Western PS2 version of Abyss, which was ported to the 3DS in Japan, already ticks the boxes of what Bamco considers a "definitive edition" of Abyss, since the original JP PS2 version was so horribly unfinished.Symphonia is in the same boat somewhat. PS2 restored the unfinished battle system content and story events to what was a fully realized game, so they don't really care whether all versions from the PS3 versions onwards are 30 fps with missing graphical effects, or whether the Steam version is a buggy mess. So they won't care about doing either of them right. A fan decompilation is more likely to do them justice.>>737922428>Tempest RAlmost certainly was in the plans, and they confirmed the Triverse Gate was meant for that and Innocence/Hearts, and on paper it would be the most deserving of a remake, but there's so many things playing against it. It would be an entirely new game with just some storylines reprised, and a prime victim of company politics. They have barely enough creative bandwidth for actual decent fully-featured console Tales games, even the mobile ones are more and more disappointing.
>>737966557>Triverse Gateany day nowi'm sure
>>737967817Can't wait for more QQ
>>737966557I still don't see how Alisha was supposedly meant to be permanent from the get go. She was designed by the same person who did Dezel, another temporary party member. She also has less equipment compared to everyone else with a lot of her weapons in the base game being recolors, along with less artes than Sorey and Rose.
>>737945480It's not as if that was unrealistic to hope for, when Namco was pumping out anime games (SRW, Gintama, Saint Seiya) with full English localizations made for cheap by their south east asian subsidaries, and translating/dubbing the new lines in the Vesperia remake, and most of their new releases adding Chinese (so they rework the text engine either way) but for whatever reason even that slowed down with american translators flocking there, without that translating to better localizations (just look at ANY cameo of a legacy Tales character in newer games or even crossovers and you'll realize they don't care)>>737926816It will never get a satisfying remake that includes all of the planned storyline (from the official novelization or original plans before the fallout with the original publisher or the Tri-Ace team) like Dhaos' PoV, Rhea's life, side events... or at least the subtlety to keep Rondoline optional like Suzu, maybe a New Game Plus bonus
>>737967023Abyss is among the best Tales. It's usually hated by people who only played Symphonia as kids though, because it was the first Tales on a Nintendo console since ToP for the SNES, which they couldn't play anyway, because it wasn't released in the west.
>>737968087>It will never get a satisfying remake that includes all of the planned storyline (from the official novelization or original plans before the fallout with the original publisher or the Tri-Ace team) like Dhaos' PoV, Rhea's life, side events... or at least the subtlety to keep Rondoline optional like Suzu, maybe a New Game Plus bonusfor the love of god please Namdai give Phantasia the treatment it deserves!
>that one meredy doujin where she has sex with that boy.
>>737968862It's been 31 years, they're not gonna give it the Tale Phantasia treatment.
>>737941220Sony SCEA was probably to blame for PS2/PSP, and there were rumors that Namco (and possibly other publishers) were interested at some point.The Nintendo DS games were probably passed over because of piracy concerns but they did trademark them. For other (much safer) projects they initially considered not localizing over sales target concern (Blue Dragon Awakened Shadow) or had another publisher handle it like Nintendo of Europe (Solatorobo, One Piece Gigant Battle) or Ubisoft (Tales of Eternia PSP).There were some rumors about Graces Wii getting an European release in 2010 but the publishing deal fell through OR Sony bankrolled exclusivity.For Sony they constantly rejected budget games (Arc the Lad's entire trilogy was bundled as one release at a loss), games with Japanese text or dubs and no English dubs (the infamous Chaos Wars PS2 OPTIONAL English dub was winged so that SCEA doesn't reject it), games with "poor graphics" (like Mystical Ninja Goemon which was delayed and constantly rejected until cancellation for FOUR years, and they did the same for Chulip which only released in 2007 after the PS3), rerelease/remake games that add "less than 30% content" (leading to no Final Mix versions of Final Fantasy/Kingdom Hearts, but also rejections of all new localizations of Japan-only games originally on Saturn/PS1 and ported to PSP including at least confirmed cases with Devil Summoner/SMT spinoffs) and what they deemed "not real games" (like an Agtec localization of Kamaitachi no Yoru around that time) and on PS3 they started rejecting games that didn't make use of widescreen (anything 4:3 even with bars, mostly affected vertical shooters)Tales of Destiny 1R/2/Rebirth were a prime target probably, same as Seven PS2 by Namco's Tales team
>>737969124what if they end the whole remaster with a Phantasia remake in 3D before they pull the plug on the series.
We never got the actual Tales of Destiny II nor Tales of Rebirth did we?
I thought Arise do so well? So why we keep getting remasters instead of new game? And why we only got illustrations for latest Tales anniversary? What the fuck bamco.
Acemen keep getting wiped
>>737969574Rebirth at least has a translation now. What the fuck have the ToDII translators been doing all these years?
>>737929569there were unvoiced skits in graces?
>>737967023Abyss has a better story and I like FoF fields better than Fata Strikes (Vesperia). Yuri feels better to control than Luke though, and the environment and world design are better in Vesperia.They're almost equal, I like Abyss a smidge more.
>>737967875She was never meant to be permanent, Zestiria's fiasco spawned a special grade of schizo
