you don't play easy mode but also try to discuss game balance, do you?
>watch How I Have An 85 Winrate On Ironclad A10>do everything he says on A9>lose 4 games in a row
>>737913265A guide is no replacement for a brain.
>>737913348His strategies pale in comparison to my tried and true method of praying for great RNG
gg
ggMy first accidental infinite in StS2. Thanks, Touch of Insanity.
>>737912514I fixed it by switching to the non-beta but you have to understand I'm frazzled because autism demands that what once was gone must be returned. I also have to update to the highest version regardless if I'm using mesagaki
don't reply to it retards
>>737913743he just replies to himself, he's been talking to himself about loli regent mods for weeks
>>737913743>>737913814that makes two of us. I have no idea what you're talking about but I'm afraid its not an isolated incident and I'll shut up now.
No one cares about your gay slapfight, post lobbies or pipe down.
i care, this is a loli thread, discuss mesugaki regent or leave.
>>737914137Regent has 3 Loli modsCan we get mods for other characters?
>>737914137Nobody gives a shit what you jack off to, we just don't need to hear about it constantly.
door man is ez
>>737914409>that relic countIs this the legendary 0 elites seed?
>>737914486Didn't need more
slithering strangler is the biggest nigger in the game i want to mod this fucker out
I KNOW ITS HARD TO REMEMBER THE PEOPLE WE USED TO BE
>>737914578who?
>>737914602
>>737914602the spiky red snake in act 1
>>737914578I think strangler + jaxfruit got nerfed and it's still pretty AIDS
>>737914486low-end runic pyramid run can often be like that. card rewards are more impactful than relics when you retain everything every turn.
>>737914651ohhhh
>>737914601gg
>>737914601Sad I'll never get to take a run this easy ever again. Good job lads
>>737911101GGs guys. That Cascade went crazy with playing Mangle(Also to the anon who threw a regen pot to the low-HP ironclad in Act 2, I had Lizard Tail. Thanks anyways. Ended up not popping it.)
>>737913147This dude went apeshit and killed his clan btw
>>737914972is it his fault though?well, kind of
>>737913265His regent guide is pretty bad, it basically says pick radiate + royale gamble to kill the boss with a combo. It doesn't tell you how to actually play unlike Xecnar's guide that I will shill.
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243450604896/76561197997192985come play or become my enemy
>>737913680Update baselib.
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243453543584/76561199214357271any frens to ascend the spire together?
>>737918276>game kicked me out of my own sessionnew link steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243453543584/76561199214357271
>>737918373>game no longer exists...
>>737918373>>737918276game no longer exists bug, you need to refresh your link, go back to your profile, click on the community tab, then back to your profile again and copy your link. the middle part of the 'url' should be different.
>>737918425what about this one?
>>737913147Honestly I've been too busy joining /v/ multiplayer lobbies to bother climbing to a10 solo. I did recently hit a9 on Defect, at least, but so far I've only played the other characters up to about a5 each
>>737918521>>737918484>>737918425steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243453870087/76561199214357271 (forgot link lmao)
>>7379185722/42 Regentscome join so we can play as 4 Regents
>>7379185722 slots leftalso, regent gang lol?
>>7379185721 slot left now!1 more to complete the regent gang!!!
Need 1 more Regent
>>737918606>4 Regents
>>737914137Everyone cares immensely what you jack off to, we just need to hear about it constantly
>>737914972You wouldn't get it
>>737915760it's a shame he doesn't want to write more guides because i win almost every time after reading his regent tipsi can play the greediest fucking run possible with 14 powers in the deck and still win because regent is that stupidly strong
>>737915903GGsorry for being slow. playing many spectrum shifts take time to process.
>>737915903gg, the beacon of hopes + mangle + dark shackles + monarchs gaze were disgusting
>Have voltaic and two holograms>Tanx gives me +1 energyMy man
>>737919307I knew we will win the run when I see defect having a real beacon of hope in his deck. that card is just so stupidly good.
>>737919397Yeah>Queen's multihit turn is hitting for literally 0>everybody has 60+ block
>>737918539Yeah same, have A10 on Silent but everyone else has only done A1 for the character epochs.>>737918572Dang I missed a 4 Regent run. I would have totally joined for that. Go and forge the biggest of set of swords for me anons
>>737919397Its really funny cause I actually had fuck all block cards other than basic defends and never really got any despite so many card drops. The beacon wasn't doing much imho.
anyone here?steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243456319675/76561199486452220
>>737918572welp, one disconnected and the regent run got ruined...
Pls come back
>>737920739No rehost?
>>737920897steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243453870087/76561199214357271
>>737920951>The game no longer exists.Damn
>>737921041steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243457395111/76561199214357271really?
>>737921041>>737921085game is still letting me use the "host from save" option, and one of you just rejoinedlet's go
We can continue the Regent run, 2 of us are there. That "game no longer exists" message was wrong
>>737921194I'm stuck at the char selection screen, I see 2 of you and the guy that quit still disconnected...
>>737921314Now I see a black screen...
Me too. Let's try one more time to recover this game, if it doesn't work, I got time for one more.
>>737921426Let's just do a new run at this point...
Regent game final rehost:steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243457935526/76561199214357271
>>737921472I clicked, but I think the save got ruined or something...
>>737921532black screen again...
>Vantom>Easy slam all the way up>Find pentogram so smith instead of heal>All defense cards turn 1Much more enjoyable game with the console. Someone host and free me from this bs
Black screen again, save is ruined. Pity, it would've been interesting demon fight.New link:steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243458083310/76561199214357271
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243458297585/76561197997192985slap down them bones, stack the cheese, always take max HP debuffs for a shitty relic
>>737921603>lobby full>>737921792>running a different versionree
Is everyone here on the beta branch?
>>737922116yes
>>737922116By default just assume we're all on the beta branch for the latest updates
Update tomorrow by the way, will they ever change Defect or is he truly perfect? I think we'll see some more enemy number tweaks to keep up with the "low ascension easier high ascension harder" move
>>737913265CalebGannonGaming? worked for me until I hit A8 >>737908582 and I lost because I couldn't get a scaling solution for the very last boss
>>737913147just lost another run to doorman brehsthink I'm retiring until he gets nerfed
Was a nice try, defect bro. New lobby.steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243459858699/76561199486452220
>>7379228593/4
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243460614766/76561197997192985rehosting for the lad playing on a toaster
You guys killed it before I could do the big otsy slam
ggs, A0 speedruns can be cathartic
GG Regents, I had all the card gen and no payoff, so I was dealing no damage. Nice carry
What’s a good winstreak at A10? 5 wins?
>>737924293That was A1 though
>>737915760You’re joking right? Xecnar’s guide only tells you about Act 1. It also is so shit in star production that I don’t even know how he makes it work.
>>737921603ggI've never had shittier card picks as regent, ever: I had my first forge card by the end of the 1st level, and never had decent block cards, but one, until the third...For the rest of the team: I played closed to death a couple of times because I had lizard's tail
>>737923435GGs guys. It was low ascension so I decided to meme with Bing Bong. Don't make my and Clad's mistake and take the Normality curse in the Holes event with Bing Bong. Doubling cards like Whistle is pretty funny, especially on multiplayer>>737924279I also had 5 swords that all dealt ~100 and cost 0. Mega overkill on Test Subject
>when you're running two Hidden Gem's and one grants Replay 3 to the other
>>737924531I've been waiting for this to happen so bad.
hostansteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243462128495/76561198313476004
>>737921603GGEnded up with a way better version of the Vigor/multihit deck I'd been trying to make on the first attempt, though I guess it ultimately ended up being more of a Stardust-centric deckTurns out Monarch's Gaze is actually pretty good when you can hit enemies a dozen times in a single turn
>>7379245643/4
>>737924572How did you have enough energy to play it? It was very useful
lobbysteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243462833578/76561199486452220
>>7379250393/4
>>737924932Upgraded it ASAP. My deck was pretty focused on scaling anyways, so taking a setup turn to play Gaze + a block card didn't feel too terrible. Alignment also helped sometimesLater on it got downgraded by the mirror event in act 3, but by then I was able to either cheat it out with Brilliant Scarf or simply stock up energy with Ice Cream
borrowed time is so goated
>>737924389depends. 5 on silent or regent is pretty good. 5 on ironclad or rotating is amazing.
Check out this relic synergy. Pael eye+bread+diadem. Would have worked better on anyone but silent since I often lost value on the starter relic. But pael eye and bread are pretty much made for each other. And diadem triggers and keeps it's 50% damage taken buff the turn after playing pael's even if you play more than 2 cards.
>>737925865Oh yeah and I had pocket watch too. Both bosses took me more than a dozen turns but barely took damage. Diadem OP.
GG regents, remember you must play attacks on the test subject if you want it to die
GGDid we all just draw the most dogshit hands imaginable at the end?
well, we wiped against the lizards...First time A4, still...
>>737924564Geez, Test Subject claims another party. I think we could have navigated that better, but so it goes. Shame we wasted the Tag Team on a strike.
>>737926275I also had tagteam on the following turn but no big swords were played. Really have to go all out on the lizard and not play powers
>>737926320Yeah oops, my deck was slow power spam/scaling, which at least doesn't proc his str gain but still doesn't do too much for phase 1. I think we could have killed him if we made to phase 2 though.
the problem with history course is i play too fast to remember i have history course
>>737924439Well if you have a brain you can figure out the rest of the acts, Act 1 has the most critical pathing decisions. I think Xencar is right that card generation is preferable over stars. I've had easy games that either ignored stars for the most part, or used stars in Act 1 and pivoted into card generation or just random shit.
>>737925039I managed to at least get off Grand Finale a couple times that run, which is more than what I expected. Gambling Chip and as many draws and useful Sly cards as possible plus Speedster for value is how to do it, it seems.
>>737924439>his poison guide has is so shit in shiv production that i don't even know how he makes it work
>Chinks only blame Anthony and not Casey who has chink heritageKek insects will stay insects
>>737914972Not Ironclads fault
>>737928880Wasn't Anthony the one who was a card game nerd while Casey just tagged along as a newbie with a fresh perspective?
>>737929304They're both still responsible for the game at the end of the day, and Casey was the one who did the interview where he called the reviewbombing a bandwagon. Anthony is the one featured the most in the patch notes but Casey has done patch notes before too.
>>737928880Chinsects fear the white man
>>737913265>>737922520Caleb made some great guides for general rules, like his deckbuilding video is pretty straightforward>You can't pick cards that become better later, you need power NOW>Therefore pick big numbers in act 1, and if you survive, analyze how your deck is blocking and dealing damage. Build on that.His fight planning one is also great>Would you rather take 19 to the face now, or just attack ? If there's no better damage or block coming, do what you must for this cycleetc, etc.His Ironclad and Regent videos really lost me though. He's leaning too much into a theoretical scenario where you take play Decicions into Decisions into royal gamble, into whatever and one shot a boss. Of course, this could happen. We've all high rolled before and destroyed the act 3 bosses. Building decks as if you'll always do so is retarded.I wish someone would make a "What to do when the deck offers you no fucking scaling and you're halfway through Act 2" guide because most runs will shit the bed here. I've seen players like Baalorlord and JapaneseExport pull through in moments like these, but none sit down to explain their thought process.
>Playing card creation Regent>Doormaker at 88 HP>I'm out of pots, and the most block I could muster that turn was 1 short of surviving>Check a random Golden Axe that Spectrum shift shat out>86 damage>At two energy>Play Prolong and a basic Defend>Kill doormaker with exact damageNothin' personnel, nigger.
Lobby A6 I'll probably go defect for a change BETA BRANCHsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243470665495/76561198143673966
we have eradicate at home
>>737929948salvaging runs is just surviving and being lucky with events and rewards
GIVE ME CLAWING YOU GOD DAMN TWAT
Thinking about it, why did they remove searing blow?It would have loved Aggression
>feral into soup
>>737931352I too go feral for some good fucking soup.Soup really is underrated.>oh shit, you have no damage for hallway fights? Here, now just get some good block and draw.>Also I'll proc all your japanese shit for you.
>all of these elites we're passing
>>737931187Searing blow was very bad card unless you went for endless run
>old coin>signet ring
>>737931704So is rampage, reallyAt least searing blow has cute synergies with armaments and aggression, and sometimes leads to silly runs
>floor 4 shop >discounted Assassinate Lol
>>737931756I know, I despise Rampage more than Juggernaut, but at least in act 1 Rampage can help you kill elites and bosses
4 player multiplayer is literally fakeCongrats on your participation trophy sis
Excellent game lads, this nigger boss stood no chance
>>737930472GGIronchad destroyed everything. I just played some stuffs
>>737932259Ironchad here.Thank god you had all those fucking debuffs otherwise my agro ass wouldn't have been able to go so fucking gorilla.Still could've fucking chewed up more of those elites though.
>>737932096what player multiplayer is real then
>>737932259he got more balls than me a defect (with 5 slots) when it was the exhaust turn
>>737932259Support slut
>>737931704hey, don't disrespect this bad boy. It got my back 6 years ago.
>>737932320When you're capable of doing nine gorillion damage, exhausting a few cards doesn't mean shit.
>>737918395why was there a bury in your deck
>>737932096It’s called fun, 4 people multiplayer is fun where you can build wacky decks without getting fucked by the game
>>737932320its free deck slimming on the last/last 2 rooms
>>737932361Hey, it's fully capable of winning the run by itself!Sleight of Flesh is a good card. x2 SoF mean it's 26 damage per Defy cast (along with 14 blocks lol)And Hidden Gem hitting any Defy or Enfeebling would sky rocketing it to 104 damage per cast. (which it will because I donated all strikes to the door)It's just that our Ironclad has 54 STR that I don't get to do much lol
>>737931935thanks I guess?
>>737932648Is Assassinate an always click?
>>737932679Early on for sure, it wins act 1 by itself
>>737932679depending on the deck, but the first one usually is.
>spend entire run building up THE SCYTHE>don't even use it against the final boss
Aggression should pull two attacks from discard
is it worth it? seems like the shittiest transformation for any of the starte cards
>>737933085Do you build big osty? Then it’s good, otherwise not
>>737933125not really in my current run, more like low to average osty
>>737933085it is indeed ass
>>737933085is max hp that bad? holy shit
>>737933085it's suck because big osty deck is kinda ass, overall.the build dies very quicky to scaling enemies like the cultist in act3. it also doesn't have a lot of ways to scale since summon amount doesn't go up with anything except energy.You might see this card dealing 200 damage for 0 energy with gigantic osty somewhere, but that doesn't really mean anything. if your osty can get that big, you would win with anything else too.
Boss swap needs to come back as an option.Snecko act 2 is too late, people don't take expensive cards in act 1 because there is no expectation of finding 4th energy.
>>737933585Sneko act 2 is perfect on Ironclad
alright while we're on it which is the best transformation?
>>737933731Did they change Break to 2? It was instapick whenever I got the option with 1.
>>737933731Suppress because Mega Crit darling can’t have bad anything
>>737933768idk that list is propably pre patch
>>737933585probably not a good option for necrobinder lol
>>737933806You have a summon card in your starter deck.
>>737933731break is easily the best improvement and maybe the best overall, the only other one in the running is meteor shower. quadcast and suppress are good but not on the same level. break is one of the best cards in the game.
>>737933731probably break though I unironically like Protector a lot since I keep getting Otsy focused cards when I play necro
>>737933845Yeah, but without the summon passive, you literally can't use any osty attack card without using a summon card first. and if you can't keep osty alive (good luck with that) you have to use summon card again to activate thodse cards.Imagine drawing your boneshard+ in the first turn at phantasmal gardener, but you can't use it because there's no osty. it's going to feel like shit.
>>737933731Good: break, suppress, showerMid: Protector, quadcast
>>737933731>Meteor ShowerBest general upgrade, very hard to go wrong no matter what kind of deck you have. Extremely good>BreakThe best cards for Ironclad right now are vuln related so this is pretty great. Especially if you get the card draw power>SuppressHard to go wrong. Extremely good in any deck>QuadcastIt's good>ProtectorIt's, uh... better than the card it's replacing.
>get rare card from neow that helps a specific archetype>get none of the cards that support iti really should stop picking it because it probably screws me more often than not but it feels good when you get lucky and it all falls into place
>>7379323182 because or the fucked up scaling necessitating coordination and skill
>>737933975Yeah and for the inconvenience, you get a fucking boss relic.Also you wouldn't pick bone shards with a boss swap.
>>737934036>Silent/Necro+damage dealerEz win
>>737933731isn't break a 1 cost?
>>737934042the variance is TOO high. some boss relic like Big Hug, Electric Shrymp, Toasty Mitten, is a death sentence. some class might be able to tank it, necro without passive osty will die for certain.
>>737934114Yeah but that means your retarded duo has to pick a good character
>>737934019worse if you got it from neow and it ends up being a dead card
>>737934189>Ironclads can stacking help each other stacking vul then bully/dominate>Silents can stack poison then Accelerate>Necros can stack doom multiplicatively with No Escape>Defect can suck each other off while the statue is killing them.
>>737934271>get sword sage>don't get any forge cards until way later and by then I already had a win con setup that didn't involve itman
>>737933085It's definitely the shittiest since it's a conditional upgrade instead of a straight upgrade.
>>737934148Works on my machine.
>>737934189Just don’t pick Defect lmao
>>737934531>snekoOh yeah, you picked the strongest boss relic, nice testing
>>737933731Meteor Shower for me. Break is an amazing stat stick but Meteor Shower feels like it solves more problems for Regent than Break does for Ironclad.
>>737934571To clarify, I meant actual boss relics, not the shitty ancient boons we're stuck with in this game.It wouldn't be as broken with something that gives a 4th energy for a downside, but probably still playable. Pbox or amid swap would be instant win as always.
>>737934531>>737934635Also this was to illustrate that the lack of innate osty isn't such a great downside as you envision it. You just don't pick osty cards and instead take something else that's strong. And once you summon you can usually keep him alive with the increased output from the boss relic.
>>737934481you get 4 more base damage though
>>737924439Act 1 is by far the hardest so if you figure that out you're mostly good to go
>>737934721Necro has 14 cards that requires Osty to be alive to function.You can play the game without it, yes, doesn't mean it is a good design.Also, you missed a point a little bit.Shitty boss swap is torelable on most character.Shitty boss swap on necro will end the run for almost certain.And, too many boss swap in simply unfun.card enchantment like Shrymp / Clone / Tri Boomerang SUCK giga ass. Biig Hug will kills you on the spotPael's tooth will kills you if you're unluckyToasty Mitten can also kills you if it exhause your strikes a few time during early fightGlitter is TOO good to get in Act1, so much that it won't be fun to play anymore if you hit it.The fun parts that you get from boss swap isn't outweighted by the unfun parts.and there'are too many exceptions you have to make for the boss swap to be reasonable.
>best players whine that game is too easySo how they are going react if Mega Crit would go Darkest Dungeon route, check what strategies best players most likely to employ win and nerf them?
Personal favourite card for each character?Mine are>IroncladFlamebarrier >SilentNoxious Fumes>RegentTyranny (Or Orbit, hard to pick for regent he had too many fun cards)>Necrobinder Borrowed Time>DefectHologram
>>737933731Suppress > Meteor Shower > Break > Quadcast > Protector
>>737935318Again, you are talking about ancient boons. I mean BOSS RELICS.
anyone else playing on steam deck having more random crashes? playing on the beta version
>>737933731Suppress, break and meteor shower are all S tierQuadcast is B+ tierProtector is C tier
>>737933585>people don't take expensive cards in Act 1What? Like a fair amount of 2+ costs (that aren't just cheated out like Stomp or half of Silent's 2+ cost cards) across the board are perfectly serviceable/good even without the expectation of 4th energy/even arguably without the expectation of energy cheating options.
>>737933731protector sucks Otsy's max hp resets whenever it dies. If it stayed the same and it just spawned with 1 current hp, it could be good as a guaranteed big dick swing option for 1 cost after some build up. Summon also doesn't scale that well, so it's not like you can reliably rebuild the HP pool
>>737935786Inferno is my favourite card in the game
>>737935830>I'm losing argument so I'm changing the definition of words to fit my narrativeAll of these are BOSS RELICS
>>737936128 (me)pic
>>737936150He says only Darv pool is allowed
>>737934785I know you're just being facetious but even Orobas's upgrade to your starter relic (Summon 5 at combat start and Summon 2 every turn) gives you +6 damage compared to its +4. Even its flat bonus is meh.
Honestly I can't tell if I'm bad at the game or not. There are times I am absolutely destroying enemies, don't even take damage for like 9 combats in a row, etc. Others its like the game is purposefully drawing the worst cards, attacks when I need to defend, defends when I need to attack. High cost draw when I'm debuffed, skills that help but I have no synergy cards drawn, etc.Really fucking tired of every faggot enemy getting strength every turn too. Or all these annoying ass fucking 'buffs' enemies get like "can't lose Xhp turn per turn!" or "all of your attacks deal 30% less!", "takes only 1 damage! for 10 turns in a row lol!". It's just boring as fuck, wasting my time.Removing strikes and defends costs too much and you don't even get the same opportunities per run to do so. A lot of relics are fun but "useless" for you (strike dummy) unless you go out of your way to use them best. Card energy being only 3 per turn at then base kind of sucks too. Having 4 or 5+ energy is great because you can you know, actually play your cards. There's too many 2+ energy cards that just aren't even worth using at all because it consumes 66% of your entire turn and leaves you with no other real options besides "strike" or "defend".And ascending difficulties aren't really any more fun. It's just more annoying. Getting cards forced into your deck you can't do anything with isn't a "challenge" it's just annoying. Things costing more is annoying and choice limiting. Enemies taking more damage and dealing more is the most banal challenge of all; if you're going to win it's just going to take longer or force you into bad scenarios later.
HellraiserCorrosive WaveCometBanshee's WailSpinner
>>737936116I feel like Unleash+ should already give the upgrade to make the damage based on Max HP and then Protector should do something else.
>necro run>no good damage, only stall and trash>delay act 1 elites as much as possible>shop before the elites>nothing good>spot rolling boulder on the shop>"you know what, fuck it">fast forwardum... bros?
>>737936291meant for >>737935786
>>737936128That's what was meant from the start, you just chose to ignore it.
>>737936310>What if bombardment took 4 turns to get started? The answer is, of course, the glorious BOULDER
>>737936310Hey. Whatever works.
>>737936416ENTER
>>737936364oh really?What are you saying here >>737933585 you only meant Darv relics pool?These things in the pic that's literally in the same category as others? Why don't you just say DARV'S RELICS then? A simple mistakes?Surely you didn't make things up to suit your narrative. you're such an honest man after all.Alright, I get you then.You want boss swap not because it's interesting, you just want ez mode because Darv relics pool is x10 better than StS1 boss relics pool, not a single one is bad. All of them is amazing when you get it early to build your deck around.There's literally no reason to not swap your starter relic to any of these on any character.I had too much respect for your gameplay skill, my bad!
How do I beat a10 with Ironclad? My cards just cant block 30 and deal 100 with three mana every turn? Am I the only one that starts with a deck of strikes and defends?
>>737936490I was convinced I was going to job to the test subject.One of the runs of all time.
God I love poultice
what am I doing so fundamentally wrong that i can't beat A10 as ironclad? A1 through A9 i got in a couple days A10 I am now stuck for weeks
>want to like forge and use a forge focused deck because having a big fuck off sword is cool>pain in the ass to play most of the timei think i had like one really good run with forge when I got the ironclad's armament and managed to get the sword to 1 cost which made it a lot easier but i always feel I'm better off just running stars or something.
>>737937043My best sword runs were>Decisions, Decisions, shrymp in a skinny deck so it always would hit Smith+, 2x parry, and heirloom hammer, saved a touch of madness potion for my sword, had one conquerer, gg ez, even doormaker couldn't stop them despite my deck being sub-20and>Early Razor Tooth relic, deck with heirloom hammer, swordsage, 2x parry, 2x bulwark and everything else in that deck was just defensive cards or colorless generation. Yes the fucking fleas in act 2 almost murdered meAll other sword runs are Sword + something else
>>737937042taking too many garbage cardsnot enough eliteswho knows
I used to love ironclad in sts1 but the new version just doesn’t do it for meHe is so changed he might as well be a new character And his new stuff is so inelegant and forced compared to sts1Silent feels like a massive improvement/sidegrade outside of poisonBut ironclad is just awfulI’m not even saying he is weak he just feels like shit
>>737937565Stacking vuln is most retarded idea they came up with
>>737937565I don't like him very much either, I'd rather play any other character.
>Regent run is going fucking awful into Act 3>go Glam for a bailout>Stardust into Mystic Lighter
A10 boiiis
I've never wonned this hard
>>737937042Probably not taking defensive cards
>>737938125>defensive cardsnoob take block is for cowardsthe issue is not taking enough damage and playing aggressive in act 1 to snowball your run
die bitch
>>737937042>>737937346>>737938125fag who couldnt beet A10 for weeks - I finally did it this very minute :)
Does doom count as debuff or not?
>>737939212y
>>737939212Yes
Is there a way to know which characters I beat A10 with? I sort of forgot.
>a10 on ironchad >a7 on the restMan I don’t feel like getting to a10 on the restThey last 3 ascensions are cringe
>>737935786>IroncladHellraiser>SilentNightmare>RegentDecisions/Big Bang>NecrobinderNeurosurge>DefectCreative AI/Subroutine
>>737914972>>737915147Please tell me the lore.
Just CASUALLY manifest snecko eye big only picking BIGWhat's so difficult about that? Just learn how to play anon.
>>737937565I think only Block Clad is fun to play and even then he doesn't gaf about Barricade and Feel No Pain most of the time.
>>737937565Self damage feels great
Necrobitch really is fucking busted
>we don't even have access to A20H yet>people are struggling at, or even below, the halfway checkpoint (A10)
>>737935786>IroncladCrimson Mantle>SilentTools of the Trade>RegentSpectrum Shift>NecrobinderEradicate or Sleight of Flesh>DefectCreative AI
>>737935786Ironclad: UnmovableSilent: AbrasiveRegent: Pillar of CreationNecrobinder: Danse Macabre Defect: Trash to TreasureI think I have a thing for Block Powers....
guys I could take the clone boon again. thoughts?I'm propably going with sharp enchanted Rattle
>>737941639>pull aggrowhy would ever pick that shit up
>>737941782NTA but it's a pretty good Block card though?
>>737941782why not, you get dammage AND summon!
>>737941843I meant block, jesus my brain is goo I should take a break
>>737941827>>7379418432 mana for 11 block is terrible. There's a card that gives you 11 block and generates a soul while costing only 1 mana
>>7379419384 of that block can linger between turns, and have effects that increase your damageAlso, it being 2 cost means it has two cost synergies with things like dance macabe and the helmet relic. Its an okay card.
>>737941989tbf dacne macabre fucking sucks
>>737942094It's goated with borrowed time
>>737935786>IroncladStoke>SilentBullet Time>RegentManifest Authority>Necrobinder Spur>DefectTrash to Treasure
>>737942094Your mom sucks. Danse Macabre is one of the best Block Powers in the game.
>>737942173New borrowed time might be the best card rework theyve done so far in sts2.
>Get offered 0 draw cards in Act 3>Die to QueenCool.
I just realized I can make more Sovereign Blades with Heirloom Hammer. This changed everything.
>>737929304yeah anthony ran a huge nethack fansite
>>737943058you have ot be lucky and get the choice no
>>737943058yeah the whole colorless card shit can trip you up if you don't pay attention to it
Holy fuck I love TTGL so much bros.
>>737943058anon has achieved infinite bladeworks.
I wonder what the percentage of people beating A10 actually is.
>>737941639or wait I'm retarded you can't enchant a second time but I still have another rattle. is rattle worth cloning?
guys, hear me out>2 touch of insanity >2 all for one
>>737943838
hey guys I just wanted to say that Metamorphosis is great for Defect. that is all
>>737935786>Cladnot playing, but Barricade is fine>SilentLeg sweep>RegentTyranny, Stardust, Spectrum shift, Manifest authority, Bombardment, Pillars are all awesome. Best character>NecrobinderI like the ethereal package and Sleight of flesh. Call of the void, defile, or banshee's cry. Shout out to Melancholy and bone shards, too>DefectThunder I guess. I like lightning cards (the one that summons over 2 or 3 turns is cool) and Machine Learning overall
>Sneko eye randomizes cost of FREE cards generated by metamorphosis Another bug
>>737935786The humble Charge Battery whenever it is offered to me. I don't play the other characters.
This deck was absolutely cracked. I was walking through the game with zero problems. Then I hit Doormaker and died.
>>737944653Don't be scared to kill some elites man
>>737944732Why would I bother? My deck was fucking busted. That All For One has retain btw. And those Strikes cost 0.
>>737944732too cancer
>>737941938>>737941989yeh summon is way more useful than just block, it also isn't affected by frail
>>737944653>no weak>no vuln
>>737944781>My deck was fucking busted.You lost to Doormaker, so clearly not.
>>737944781you know what this inspired me to fight less elites. I only do it because everyone says I should but it's also the reason I die a fuckton
>>737945193Just admit that Doormaker is a horrible design.
>>737945193This happened to me also. Completely crushed everything else but absolutely jobbed to Doormaker. Such an unnatrual boss fight.
>>737945384I'd say less but Doormaker is currently the only boss I get in act 3. I don't even want to play the game anymore.
>>737944781when you have silver crucible you basically have to focus on early elites after getting your upgraded rewards. its what makes the crucible worth taking
>>737935786>IroncladPrimal Force >SilentCorpse Explosion (rip), in 2 I guess it would be Blade Dance >RegentKingly Punch >Necrobinder End of Days hands down, getting this as a Neow bonus is always signs of a good run>DefectTempest
>>737945316Unless it's a boss that one of the top streamers acknowledges as purposely unfair (like The Heart which some will concede is indeed bullshit) there's no point in discussing boss balance. You won't convince people that anything in any game is unfair if it's beatable unless an eceleb with better credentials overrules them.
>>737946147You are pathetic.
>>737945193>not allowed to build a deck that draws cards, cycles multiple times, relies on energy generation or card manipulation>Every deck needs to have big bonk and big block else you get fucked by doormaker>this is somehow good designGEE ANON YOURE SO FUCKING SMART
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243501600258/76561198230044444hope you like card games
heh
doormaker is a great boss, don't let the chinese who refuse to adapt convince you other wise
>>737946793it would be fine if there wasnt a 4th act comingbased on that alone it will be nerfed
>>7379467072/4
it's uphttps://youtu.be/yW3Gg_v8qDc
yes dude I'm totally going to watch a 35 minute video by that raped bitch jorbs
>>737946989i canti cant eveni bet he doesnt even want you watching his videos, why would i
A9 might indeed be my limit. 2bosses2hard. Even if I sucksneed you're just gonna get your cock torn off in a month by the true ending when that comes out. I am shitter.
>>737946793I really don't see what the big deal is. Half the phases he hits for like 25, you have a turn to set up, you have 16 floors after you know you're fighting him to stuff your deck if it's too thin, etc.
Why is The Regent such a brat?
>>737946883still spots left
>>737946883>>737946707wait 5 more minutes and start 2/4 if noone else joins?
>>737946782Baffling card, somehow even worse than the already terrible Thousand Cuts. The strongest benefactor of this card is a shiv build but when you look at the numbers it is like paying 3 energy for accuracy.
>>737937042Losing this much means fundamentally bad play on your turnsNo amount of tier lists or correct deckbuilding choices will fix playing your turns poorly and you are definitely playing your turns poorly if your w/l is this badYou've thrown countless high rolls across that many losses guaranteed, it isn't even luck at this point
>>737946782>Neow gives me this card>2nd encounter of the entire run I get this eventWas a kino run.
>>737947083>titsruined
navegreed says silent is broken and it's a waste of time to play her
>>737947992Everyone knows she’s broken and needs hard correction. Mega crit are afraid of nerfing her too hard because one single card nerf resulted in tens of thousands Chinese screeching
>>737947992i only play defect
did the anime skin mods get released/leaked?
Could a VS mode work?You both start on the same seed and whomever dies last wins. You're become each other's third act boss if you both make it through
>>737939928>wants power>demon gives him power but makes him crazy>he kills his enemies but also his friendssimple as
>>737948527you'd need simultaneous turns on the vs because turn advantage would be huge
>>737948527PvP is retarded and I don’t understand why people ever ask for it
>>737948619I mean, as a fun aside, what's wrong with it?
>>737947992She definitely is an outlier
>>737948708Nothing in the game is built around it? Players damage is massively inflated over health to the point single Bludgeon+ with marbles can instakill a player at full hp
>>737948527It would need something like downfall where one player controls a boss, and the others are players.
>>737948860Give players a health multiplier for the boss fight?
>>737947428it's good if you don't have to pay 3 energy for it
>>737948614Can't have simultaneous turns with infinites
>>737949029fuck it we ballReal time that shitmay the highest APM win
>>737947992Quit parroting other people and just play the game for yourself. Personally I lose with her more than with ironclad. I still find her fun but ironclad is boring since he's too easy to win with.
>>737949159that might be crazy enough to work
>>737949160gonna cry?
>>737948527Spire building deck and manual control of monsters/bosses/drop pools etc.
rehostingsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243506990569/76561198230044444
>>737948527Duel climbing could be funVs is a mess to balance Maybe you can spend resources to fuck with the other climber
I've been playing without looking anything up for some 50 hours now(made it to a5 on everyone) but now I want to expand my brain, who should I avoid and who's fine?
>>737935862works fine on my steam deck thanks
>>737949016That's why it shouldn't be 3 cost. 2 cost is still meh but maybe making it 2 upgrade to 1 cost dealing 4 damage would be ok. But then it again overlaps too much with accuracy. I hope they rework the card.
150 hours in and i still dont know how this card works.
>>737949784it's also weird that serpent form just gives random damage and has nothing to do with poison
>>737944023I'm still chasing the high from this run where bing bong and getting 2 metamorphosis from that event completely saved my run.
>>737949834All attack cards in your entire deck that have Osty attack something increase that card's damage by 5. So you want that card and a lot of other Osty cards.
>>737948957So now it’s up to Rng of what cards game offered you? There’s too much Rng in spire. If you’re good you can win 80% of the time but those wins are absolutely not equal, someone will roll in with infinite and kills you on turn 1 and there’s nothing you can do, opponent got Apparition? Gg, there’s nothing you can do, got block build and enemy is stacking poison? Gg. PvP is only fun’s when players are on equal footing
>>737949834Bastard child of Perfected strike
>>737950003Its not just in your deck its every Osty attack you have anywhere Even stuff generated mid fight or sent to the exhaust pile counts so you can do dumb shit like Sweeping Gaze + Music Box to make Squeeze massive
i love bridges
>>737950324I miss the slipping event. Bridge fucks me over way more often.
An all-timer metamorphosis
>>737949564they are all fine. Play the characters you enjoy the most. People will shit and piss saying 1 character is worse than the other over a 5% winrate difference. Regent has the lowest winrate on average but is potentially the best character once people figure out how to play him.
>>737948506Brown regent is still dead but I have it, sure hope it doesn't get broken in an update because I like itThe other Regent mod and the Silent mod is still up on the guy's patreon for free and he just uploaded a version of Necro (no attack animations yet)MintMod2 is in development
>>737950945Very nice. Just needs a 0 cost all for one.
Damn that was kinda close
>>737936993>filenamePost it....
ntturns out doorman isnt a pushover either, burned through my deck way too quickly
ggs, going through the run history maybe I should've went voltaic when it was offered. discovery felt like it underperformed this run
6 hours before Silent gets what she deserves
>>737951626same with me and call from the deep but i spose thats rng for ya
>>737950324Imagine the scenario >pulled something in my back >aw fuck bridge is swinging like crazy>flings you around so much it pops your back like a chiropractor >pain gone
hosting betasteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243512782771/76561198076213196waiting for patch edition
>>737951123can you share them? would appreciate it
>>7379520582/4
SECOND FUCKING TIME IN A ROW I PICK THIS FUCKING RARE CARD RELIC ON NECRO AND I GET EIDOLON. WHY DOES THE GAME HATE ME BRO? HOW IS THAT SHIT EVEN A CARD BRO
>>7379520583/4
>>737947992Everyone knows this already you don't need a eceleb to tell you to figure this shit out, zoomer.My main gripe wih Silent is that she has very few options for non-dishonest damage, and she has insane blocking capabilities so playing with her most of the time just takes fucking forever. And while I do love playing high-damage Silent, Tracking feels like a complete wtf card since you're scaling damage when the enemy is dealing less damage to you, on the character that has Paper Krane which works all the time instead of for a few turns like Debilitate (and Necro needs to put effort into stacking persisting Weak). Applying and amplifying Vulnerable without messing up Lethality is also a premium on Necro. Silent just gets to apply Weak and deal double damage on the enemy with 0 downside it's shocking they even allowed that card to be in the game honestly.
>>737952058>Lobby is fullF
>>737952223I've found the one time I had it that Eidolon is great for exhausting Strikes and Defends and any curses like Greed or Ascender's Bane. However you need to upgrade it for it to be usable at 1 cost, and you also need a way to flood your hands with shit like Souls or Undeath to exhaust them all for the intangible, and you ideally also need something to benefit from mass exhausting like Joss Paper or if you're lucky Dark Embrace from Ironclad at philosophers eventIn short, it kinda sucks
>>737952223it's so ass
>>737952542steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243514871104/76561198230044444can we fill anotha one?
>>737950050Have you ever played a high level TCG?Games decided on the opening hand is nothing new
A weak source is a hard requirement for A10, huh?
>>7379531043/4
What is the most broken thing you can do with infinite gold?
>>737953480Courrier doesn't count
>>737953480store that restocks
>>737953549>>737953540damn i got c-c-c-combobrokenmaybe take the 5 fights strength thing without feeling like a mark?
>>737953247still 3/4 btw
>>737952058How many hours until patch? I'm confused cause I'm out of my time zone
>>737953776What's new btw?
>>737913147One one hand, when I see posts talking about balance, I consider if the poster is an A0 enjoyer. If I think they are, I consider them a retard and disregard their opinion.On the other, I think the game is balanced around A0 and ascensions are just there as a kind of endgame for sadists. It only serves to invalidate decks and strategies, which is anti-fun especially considering the RNG element.
>>737953480Sushi belt maybe?
>>737952070Catbox is down right now so here's the litterbox for the brown Regent, 3 days https://litter.catbox.moe/ug58mmqg3jt9nn1a.zipJust search anaertailin on Patreon for his mods
i have 50% win rate on ironclad a10 but i just cannot win with this piece of shit.
>>737945316>Just admit that Doormaker is a horrible design
>>737954762This sums up my experience as well. Ironchad is fairly straightforward. His vuln, strength stacking, exhaust and self harm archetypes all seem to fit seemlessly together and you can figure out which one you want to focus on pretty early on. But I cannot for the life of me figure out what to do with Necrobinder. It's like focusing on any one archetype will fuck you over and trying to get them all working together will also fuck you over.
>>737954762just take defy and block
>>737954762want an attack?>deal 6 damage and do some weird utilitywant a skill?>spend energy now to apply doom which might do something next turnwant draw?>spend energy to put souls into your draw pile which you may or may not draw into next turn
jorbs says that claw is a good common on defect
>>737955597Dude fuck off, you've been thoroughly humiliated by Coach and are irrelevant since.
>>737955308>>737954762Same experience with Necro so far.Necro Defense cards overtuned/overnerfed already (low max HP, low block density, low summon,etc). Defy nerf just cemented that weakness even more.
>>737954762I hated her on release but I have a 12 streak on her right now so I can't agree with you
>>737954101No anon you don't understand games should be balanced around the 1% of the playerbase pushing the game to its limits. This has never ended badly for a game or even an entire genre like RTS.
>>737955924a10? how?
ggs, that test subject fight got a lil scary
It was supposed to be an ethereal build, but it kinda turned into Soul build with just Dirge. GG.
>extremely slow decks into test subjectyeah, if we didn't kill him on second turn he would deal only about hundred damage to us?
>>737948527I want a race modeWould be really easy to make work
>>737954176thx bro
>>737956434ggs, yeah i could j have survived over 150 dmg from them, but that's just cause i had double shroud + dirge
>>737954762Watch Opem's tier list to get a general idea how to play her.
>>737956220But there are different ranks for different people.Making high ascension the sweat mode is literally the point
>>737956538Race mode already exists, it's called starting on the same seed and checking the run time at the end.
>>737956330>>737956604and whichever necro was giving souls ty so much, game literally offered me ONE draw card and I got bloodletting FROM LAST NORMAL COMBAT
Anyone hostan?
wheres the cardanon who made the other two cards? need him to get on this new one
>>737956847sure ill host another.steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243522027902/76561198076213196
>>737956813That's why I said it'd be easy
>>7379570812/4 come join
>test subject in multiplayer>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOqSTxjBXPQ
ggdoor shut
>>7379570813/4, last spot is still open.
>>737957081GG
>>737957081steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243522642091/76561198076213196rehosting for regent
>>737957434last time im doing this, fix your internet plssteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243522815877/76561198076213196
>tfw your Humidifier Boulder Panic button deck comfortably won the run even with boulder as last card against Queeni love it when my meme decks just work
>>737957609im assuming the big bang of gods also didnt hurt
>>737957669honestly it was underwhelming. Id much rather have it on panic button but i had stamp on it
>>737957542I'm sorry, my connection felt good before.I'll join later when it's stable. Really sorry
>>737957813no worries just don't let others catch you lowering their W/L ratio lolsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243523502710/76561198076213196new beta lobby
>>7379579613/4
>>737956291nta but I got a long streak just by limiting myself to 1 or 2 games a day and playing when I'm at my best. Makes a huge difference. As soon as I played some when I was tired or not as locked in I went back to losing more. Play once a day with coffee and you will dominate.
>>737956757>But there are different ranks for different peopleAnd yet RTS still died. Curious!
>>737913147I am a9 iron clad while all I have done is drunkenly pressed buttons. Game isnt hard. It just requires playing until you get lucky.Having a consistent win rate might be more impressive.
>>737939548Ascension 7 is literally just 'makes the game less fun', the game already is decided in Act 1 where you barely get rare cards anyway.
can someone give me a qrd on the chink meltdown
>>737945193Doormaker is a badly designed fight since he is even more RNG dependent than the rest of the game. You basically have to draw perfect hands on each turn to deal with his gimmicks or else you lose, which punishes having a well-rounded deck anyway.
>>737960498he's the easiest boss
>>737956750>Opem's tier list>High five on desperate tier with Flaten>Invoke on Premiun tier.>No escape on situationalDisgusting, what is this an A0 tier list?
>>737960628Apparently 20 rotating A10 streak, what's yours?
>>737960498if only there was a turn where you could manipulate your future hands
Duplicate deck feels so good with 3 wishes 2 headbutts and going against the Doormaker.
>>737960498I'd have more respect for you if you just came out and said "I'm a retard who can't think, this is too difficult for me" instead of coming up with all those gay excuses about how it's not your fault.
>>737958937>playing when I'm at my bestBlog post but relevant to this. I threw a run last night trying to play when sleepy because I got an infinite on doormaker (third turn, thinned deck down to only 2 pokes) and I thought I lost because I was so focused on getting his hp down to his doom stacks. Then I realized, shit, he's going to die from doom but because doom only works at the end of THEIR turn, he'll attack me first and I'll die. So I just gave up and let him kill me. It wasn't until this morning I was thinking about and I realized... I had a 0 mana infinite. I could have just hit him until he died. But i was so caught up on his doom stacks for no reason. Basically yeah playing in a bad mental state is a bad idea.
>>737960498>free setup turn>exhaust phase that helps your deck>no draw phase where he hits for 24>the extra energy cost phase (actually dangerous)>an entire Act to prepare for himHe's literally not that bad
>>737960628Idk i just looked over it and it checks out except some things like misery and times up are situationally strong
>>737933731Meteor shower is just BUSTEDeverything else is so so
>>737933731Here's current break btw, which is way better
>>737960461As far as I remember other anons saying, there was some infinite loop easymodo Soul exploit with Necrobinder that got nerfed. Also remaked Doormaker. That's it.
>>737933731suppress because it gets innate for some reason
One shotting a boss on 4 person multiplayer lmao.GG.
>>737962458>One shotting>Turn 6Okay gaylord.
>>737962458ggs, i became super busted with power defect.
>>737957961>bosses after seeing voltaic
hostansteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243532033342/76561199486452220
>>7379630043/4
>>737960170Ironclad is easy because basically all of your archetypes do the same thing: do damage. No other character has that level of homogeneity in archetypes. Defragment does nothing for Claw builds, Doom shit does nothing for Osty builds, Prepared does nothing for poison builds, and I'm not even going to bother talking about how conflicting Regent builds are.There's a reason tons of "top" players use Ironclad.
Anything worth cloning here? Maybe dirge clone sounds a bit silly
>>737963546No good targets.
>cute deck destroyed by 4 scrollspain
Snecko eye is in a tier of its own. Ridiculously unbalanced but also some of the most fun I've had in slay the spire.
>>737963652Maybe dirge clone was the play actually.
>>737964095Not with 3 energy and no Soul synergy it ain't.
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243534061675/76561198030418795Might as well. Low elo dadgaming.
>>737964170I had borrowed time upgraded wisp and invoke
>>737964330
>>737964517You playing something else than 0.103.2?
Foreshadowing.
>4 combats in a row draw only strikes + powers despite having 10 defensive cards in my deck and end up losing 50 hp in act 2 xd
proposal: There should be three ranks for smith upgrades
>>737965260Draw better :)
>>737964080It's my goat, it never disappoints
I love how playing necrobinder is just dying in act 1 17 times before actually getting any sort of card synergy that lets you beat the boss and elites.
>>737966812melancholy is a great act 1 card like bone shards for that reason>tfw no defy until act 3
>>737965290fun would be letting you smith a card as many times as you want with a slightly reduced scaling (+1 instead of +3) after the first smith.
>>737966915>melancholy is a great act 1 card like bone shards for that reasonSure but I havent been offered either of those in all my 17 deaths lol. Its always just blight strike, veilpiercer or some other shit like that.
>>737967045realistically you are probably not going to run into it early unless you find it in neow's relic or an early shop.takes me several fights to find an uncommon usually.
>>737965290Proposal they should let you smith relics
ggsry for time waste with my meme deck
Had a fun run
Thank god we didn't see test subject. I just wish I was able to play my strangle more before your 200 Havocs.
ggs havoc gaming
Our Silents had no flanking, reporting this to Mega Crit
is he right?
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243540020957/76561197997192985lobby for those that hate bingbong
>>737967602No because I've lost plenty with that power ;-;
>>737967561I saw one in the last shop. But I also just refuse to take it when I see it on principle.
>>737967602Giving you 4/5 cards that are 1 cost block 10/12 is pretty goodProblem with it is if your characters best cards are also blocks I guess, and the part where it's a power so you have to draw it, but other than that yeah it's almost like +5 Dex, just get more unga cards
>>737967661I'm more of a BongBong kind of guy
>>737967797understandable, but our team was really short on damage. If Thrash didn't hit Ashen Strike at best moment against Queen we might have not had enough damage to kill her
>>737967602It's pretty good but I only found it particularly busted when I was able to get multiple copies or additional defends. Fasten on silent after taking large capsule and having 6 defends is way better than taking it on ironclad with only 4. It also affects ultimate defends so you can possibly pick up extras that way.
>>737967661damn, full? guess theres a bunch of people lurking here>>737967602honestly one of my safest choices to get a defense plan rolling and win a run, i'm usually playing silent, necrobinder and defect, so i'm typically removing strikes before defends and usually getting max value by the time i find this card.. 2 defends (20 block) + weak is really good defense against a lot of enemies
>>737968291steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243541323273/76561198230044444can we get a 2nd one going?
>>7379683912/4
Heh, nothin personnel Queen
>>737967602It's 5 or 7 "dex"
>>737956848>NecroMILFBased
>>7379683913/4
>>737968597>game piece>mummy hand>ice cream>cloned orbitYou've peakedIt never gets better from here
and that reminds me how much I hate this "card", even if full exhaust deck this piece of shit is always a problem card, requires god RNG for Thrash to target it, second wind can't exhaust it, doesn't work with corruption. I hate it
>>737913147Why is he so bad compared to every other Ancient? it's ridiculous manhttps://slaythespire.wiki.gg/wiki/Slay_the_Spire_2:Tezcataraalso UPLOAD FAILED UPLOAD FAILED UPLOAD FAILED. FUCK WEBP. I don't want to download every fucking image on my computer. Just let me paste the godamn web url you fucking jews
>>737967482>>737967491What was the Havoc combo?
>>737969061I agree that it's the worst but very hot cocoa and the mittens are welcome in many decks
>how to instantly tell your run will be mediocre with no power boost for act 2
>>737969103there wasn't one
>>737969061Clearly you haven't been soup pilled yet. I pity you.
>>737969150blood and flesh are both pretty good relics man, not sure what there is to complain about
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243542892751/76561197997192985rehosting for the pervert
Drawing bad luck turn 1 two fights in a row is downright criminal behavior.
>>737969045great with stampede
>>737969061I like most of these actually. the only ones I truly dislike are mittens and the act 2 exclusive ones.compass can be okay if your paths are truly shit, but gotta be seriously struggling to ever consider the candle or wax relics.>>737969140mittens on characters like defect or necro that draw discard to hand instead of draw pile is miserable in my experience.
>>737969241>gain extra energy after you took 40 damage trying to set up in the initial turns>alternatively draw 1 more card you can't play without energy
>>737969247What a horrible night for a curse
>>737969323I would never take mittens on defect but on clad/silent they're great
>>737968597>those orbitsoh lawd he gamin
>>737969045Always smash one of those if I have StokeAnd as other anon said, works with stampede too. Although I try to avoid Stampede now, its a noob trap.Its great early on to push some damage on Act 1 but later you'll usually always stampede strikes
>>737969365wait i thought flesh was the double block one. and you won't convince me that extra card draw is bad ever, that's ridiculous. it's one of the relics that works in every deck
>>737969381YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FUCKINGKIDDINGME
>>737969150>Blood is decent>Flesh is decent>Horn is great>Claw is great>Eye is great>Growth is potentially game-breakinggenuinely skill issue
>>737969045Yeah IC could use a few more ways to Exhaust attacks, it's just True Grit, a very lucky Cinder, Havoc or a few rares.
>>737969061The buffed Soup is greatGolden Compass if you get a shit layout is pretty decent (and the other options dont interest you)
>>737967012BRING HIM BACK
>>737969531would be op in sts2. too many chances to upgrade
>>737969470Flesh is +Energy starting on turn 3, double block every other turn is Pael's LegionWing is okay too I think if your map is full of hallway fights
>>737969474Honestly thats why I hardly ever duplicate the deck unless I'm packing 5+ cards that can get rid of it at any time
>>737969589if you can afford to smith at every fire you are winning anyway and it won't matter.
>>737969470It's a slight bonus but I can very easily picture a scene where I draw plans, footwork and 2 defends on 3 energy while getting attacked for 20.Even that flesh wall thing is better and that's still just a bad unmovable.
>>737969589Cards are allowed to be good
>>737969647I had like such an amazing deck, 6 x hangs with nothing but souls and card drawbut Im FUCKED by this stupid curse.
>>737969484Horn is absolute ass, don't opine on anything ever again.
>>737969174are you really gonna hang onto your Strikes throughout Act 1 and just hope that Tez spawns and has Soup as a choice?>>737969140>>737969323there's too little upside and a lot of downside for many of the relics he's got. They need to be reworked so that every character can benefit so you don't get screwed.>>737969505But Golden Compass is a boss relic though. It's supposed to actually do something and help you beat the game. With other Ancients you literally get stuff for free and no downside.
>>737969589would be even worse in sts2
>>737969806>are you really gonna hang onto your Strikes throughout Act 1 and just hope that Tez spawns and has Soup as a choice?if you're Ironclad? yes
>>737969606>Pael's Eye 18% pick -4% deltalol what group of shitters is this pulling from
>>737969970i don't play ironclad he is too hard to play
>>737970032eye is good for when you draw your curses
>>737969970>>737970051did they also nerf Ironclad too? I feel like I'm never getting any strong Block cards and all of his synergistic cards rely so much on Vulnerable and yet he has so little viable deck-cycle for being able to consistently put out Vulnerable.
>>737943508like once or overall winrate of all attempts?
>>737970228yes doing the barricade 999 thing is harder, corruption is an ancient reward and he has worse block overall. you need to kill things quickly
patch when?
>>737970228Offering, Pommel Strike, Burning Pact, Battle Trance, Vicious...
They got rid of Fiend Fire too? wtfit's not even to play him anymore.
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243545099716/76561197997192985rehosting for the lizard
>>737970661it costs energy to play those. Other than Thunderclap, Bash, Uppercut, there's no other way to apply Vulnerable and continue progressing in the fight. You still have to block. You still have to play the card with the Vulnerable synergy. If you don't get an Energy relic, life is hard.
>>737970945Click every Bloodletting and Offering you see and accept that you will have to rest often in Spire 2
>>737970278Just once
