All these games you spent money on as a kid. Thinking you "own" them. You protected them from niggers stealing them, you think they are safe now. Time says otherwise. While you're here chilling, your collection rots away, disc by disc. You don't own shit, private property is an illusion and entropy is claiming all your belongings
>>737932367People that collect physical games don't play them so it's not like it makes a difference if they're playable or not to them
Same for your hentai collections on disc. Better goon your fill before those are gone too.
>>737932367I would still prefer nature to slowly decay them over decades or centuries than let some greedy corporation shut it down within a few years and resell it to me for quadruple the price
>>737932367Your body and mind are decaying therefore you don't even own yourself
>>737932367I was looking at my OG xbox and 360 games earlier and I feel like I own the random bullshit I bought on steam decades ago more than those.>would need to track down and buy another xbox/360>would need to buy another monitor/a bunch of bullshit to convert rca cables into something usable>hundreds of dollars later and weeks of time i can now play the gamesMeanwhile I can just press download and play whatever it was on I bought on steam.
>disc rotDrive rot is what's gonna happen first, but people seem to ignore that shit thinking their consoles and computers will last forever.
Two more weeks.
>>737933493same i have so many 360, ps2 and snes games that just sit in storage because i never use them and can't be bothered selling them
>>737932367this only occurs in third world shitholes with incredibly high humidity and no climate controlin other words, not my problem
>>737932367>You protected them from niggers stealing themI don't live in a third world country, though?
>>737936593Is America a 3rd world country now? lol
>>737932367I have discs from the 80's that still look great.Just don't keep them in damp moldy basements or wet attics and you'll be fine.
>>737937450Has been since at least the 80s
>check my ps1 discs all goodsZionists doing fearmongering again.
>>737932367You're a moron. Read the eula for any disc based game. Even your music. People don't own any of y. They're leasing a license for a game which happens to be delivered on a disc. This was a thing which came out during Quake. That is, that's when we became aware of it via the news. Zoomies like you shouldn't have opinions until you've read more about your history.
Notice when talking about disc rot these people always post the same fucking image?
>>737939496>That is, that's when we became aware of it via the news.Post the news article please.
Works on my machine™
Why do you expect permanence when you yourself are not? All of your possessions will decay, just as your body will.
>>737932367is it even possible to go back to disc, games now are like 60+ gigs which is to big to store on a disc anyway
>>737939974I don't think I own a single game that size.What games are that bloated?>it wouldn't fit on the discThat's why games included multiple discs.
I have cds from the 80's that are fine and yes I do listen to them and play my games. This sounds like a personal problem. BESIDES, at the first sign of disc rot becoming unavoidable I'll just sell everything and make a bunch of money from even bigger retards than me
>>737940084This.>Make legal digital back ups of all my physical media>Sell them when they are no longer useful to meLiving the dream.
>>737940036jedi survivor is 130 gig, cyberpunk is about 90 i think
>>737932367posted it again award
>>737939974Who the fuck cares about modern sloppa anyway.
>>737940301That's insane. Why are games so poorly optimised now?I guess that's the direct result of everyone getting worse at programming.
>>737932367anon that's not a video game. that's a music CD.
>>737940353thats the result if hiring too many third worlders to do the job cheaper, triple A companies should be considerd as traitors to their country
>>737939496nobody signed those eulas. if I buy a physical thing it becomes my property. I don't give a shit what some corporation says. they don't make the laws.
>>737940353it's not just poor optimization, but they also want you to play only their games by bloating your storage space.
>>737932367this is only really an issue on poor quality discs printed in mexico tier shitholes
>>737940589Well it's had the opposite effect on me.I'll just never play them and be happy.
Experts say that disc rot ins't real.
>>737933241I am materialInformation is not
What's stopping you from copying your shit onto newer discs?
>>737940802So what is it?
>>737940832Nothing. Your consumer rights make this perfectly legal, as long as it's for your own personal use and not for sale or redistribution.People are just lazy retards.
>>737936019People buy these new in box ps2's, dreamcasts ect and the drive sounds like a garbage disposal when they turn it on. Also capacitors leaking and decomposing.
>>737940843Immaterial, incorporeal, abstract, spiritual, intangible
>>737940953Sounds like fake god shit to me.Are you religious? You sound it.
>>737932367disc vs e-ssdwhich is more reliable to safely store games?
>>737932367Disc rot was ending my movie collection. So I bought some 16 TB HDDs and saved the remix files.
>>737941619Disc, for sure.Show me a hard drive that's lost no data since the 80's, and I'll show you a liar.
>>737940979I'm an atheist
>>737933493What the fuck are you talking about? 360 has HDMI out, can easily be found for $30 or less, and with just a USB stick you can enable it to play every worthwhile Xbox game.
>>737941871Then you don't get to have immaterial things that require faith. Your own world view doesn't allow it.
>>737941882>360 has HDMI iirc some launch models didn't such as the core.
>>737932367my old sega cds are still mint /shrug
>>737942136Immaterial things don't require faith. What
>>737939974Wouldn't be an issue to just use multiple discs for games again.
>>737932367I have cd roms from the early 90s and they all still work perfectly
>>737942314So how do you validate that immaterial things exist, with the scientific method?Go ahead.
>>737933493>be me>have tons of cash>suddenly shit changed, now low on cash>cant sell my steam games>easily sold a bunch of switch games for 1kIf I cant sell it, I dont own it.Digital games are like renting a house. Its your place until the owner says its not
>>737942163No models had HDMI until a little over a year after launch. All models of 360 are cheap and easy to find though
My discs seem fine.
>>737932367Where the hell do you have to live for your disks to actually "rot" away? I have 30 year old floppy disks and 20+ year old CDs that are still as usable as they were all those decades ago.My VHS system and most of my tapes did indeed become unusable, but those were much older than 30 years so it is what it is.
>>737932367Every hard drive will eventually fail. There's nothing you can do.
>>737942804For those old enough a part of the marketing push for cd's was their increased lifespan over tape based media (given we are talking consumer facing that means cassettes and VHS, not the srs bsns archival tapes).
Disc rot isn't real. I have a windows 95 CD that still installs without issue.
>>737942314>>737942439Where did you go?
>>737932367Disc rot is definitely real, but it's a manufacturing issue and exceedingly rare at that.Audio CD collectors have researched into this extensively and over the years they've identified a few manufacturing plants where during specific time periods there were manufacturing issues that caused disc rot, there's a specific Philips plant where nearly everything they made is trash by now. DVD Videos also have some known bad batches, a certain time period of Warner Bros DVD releases being the most infamous.As for video games? It's so god damn rare that there isn't a single title for any system that's commonly enough rotten to be used as an example.There are other unrelated but known issues affecting some games though. Gamecube games having their disc art peeling off is perhaps the most well known one. In fact, you're more likely to hear horror stories of flash and ROM memory experiencing bit rot. Did you know Paper Mario for the Nintendo 64 uses a custom flash memory chip for saving that has a limited number of writes on it? Eventually the world will run out of functional Paper Mario cartridges and there's nothing you can do to prevent it!
>>737943962>manufacturing issueNo, it's water damage.Every single example I've ever seen is either damp or humidity.
>>737941675okay i thought flash memory lasted long as fuck but i guess discs still outlast thembut by how much? how long do ssd's last in comparison and lets say they are also rarely used and taken care off
>>737945135>but by how much? how long do ssd's last in comparisonNo idea. They haven't been around long enough to really know the flaws of using them long-term yet.
Just don't collect Wii U garbage and you'll be ok
>>737932367I have music CDs from 1990 and DVDs from 2003 all still running. Disc rot doesn’t exist.Your physical media will last until you are dead if you take care and don’t live like a filthy animal.
>>737932367disc rot is largely a myth and only applies to discs kept stored in sub optimal conditions
>>737944281It's a well documented issue that even the manufacturers have at time acknowledged, click "show more" and scroll to the bottom herehttps://www.discogs.com/label/342146-PDO-UK
>>737939496>eulaAren’t above the law you faggot. If you own a disc you own it.
>>737939559because it is caused by poor storage condition or poor quality discs.i got CDs from the 1980s that are still flawless and never once seen a rotten disc outside of some that were in a flood and not properly dried
>>737942804Florida, Brazil, Jamaica
>>737945309>>737945346Basic chemistry isn't a myth
>>737940589>>737940639>>737940353modern doorfare 2019 was the last normieslop i played (got the code with my gpu and i still feel ripped off)that fucking trash was hitting upwards of 200gb, for fucking what? 8 multiplayer maps?never again
>>737945452whats the chemistry here then poindexter?
>>737945452Basic chemistry says a Blu Ray lasts 50 years easily. A DVD minimum 30. There may be a faulty charge here and there but the overall failure rate is below 1%.
>>737945364>The manufacturers acknowledge they made CD's that are more susceptible to damp and water damage.So I'm still correct.
>>737945660Yeah, it's not a huge problem now, but it exists. Nowadays i just buy bluray for this reason
>>737945660>Basic chemistry says a Blu Ray lasts 50 years easily. A DVD minimum 30.Post the exact chemical formulas that confirm this.You do have them, don't you anon? You're not just making up "facts" again, are you?
> itt people who don't make backupsDeserved
>>737932779wrong. i keep my curated and categorized, decade long doujinshi backed up on at least three sources, always. granted they are in the same physical location, so if there was a fire they would be gone.
This thread makes me want to start a DVD collection again.Should I get a Blu Ray player too? I haven't owned a DVD player since...Probabaly 2008, so I'm quite clueless.
>>737946052BluRay player plays DVDs too so i‘d definitely get one over a DVD player.
>>737939829yeah but the difference is if you buy a book you don't expect it to turn to ashes in 25 years. books outlive humans. well-made houses outlive humans.digital data, even if physical, is transient compared to printed media and physical art, i believe, is the point.
>>737946052>DVD collection>when netflix exists
>>737946210> renting slop on Shitflix when you can buy a DVD for a dollar
>>737946181Oh shit, really? That's good to know.What about 4k players? Are they worth using? Do they play all of the above?Thanks for the help.>>737946210Netflix removes shows I want to watch.So I'm going to digitize a physical collection so I can stream things wherever I want, and still own them.
>>737946052Imo the PS3 slim is the perfect machine for this
>>737936019>replaces a 15 year old drive>new drive dies in 3 years.>next drive dies in 2 years.>go back to 20 year old drive.
>>737946452I was tempted with a PS3, but the one I wanted was the original phat which wasn't released in Europe, so it's just crazy money to import.At this point I'm happier with a stand-alone player, but thanks for the suggestion.
>>737946446If you have a high quality 4k TV you might want to watch 4k discs but they are pretty expensive for a relatively small upgrade compared to a normal blu ray. It’s more a thing for enthusiasts.
>>737946570I have 40 year old discs that are brand new quality. What's your point?
>>737946629Then honestly I might skip it. Most of the things I watch are in standard def and I think the Blu Ray upscales usually look worse than the DVD.Are region free blu ray players expensive? I assume it's all region locked to shit now.
>keep cds in box in foil in cd holder inside barely used closet>backup important CDs to a cheap SD card (these will survive the Heat Death of the Universe) and also store it properly.Wow so hard. My fear is more the disk readers themselves, but I'm sure if someone invented laser turntables something will be invented eventually to read CDs without the need of a gorillion moving precision parts.
>>737946570Read the context, you illiterate mongrel.
>>737946803>cheap SD cardWhat? These are very fragile
>>737947205I still have super early 2GB SC4 SDcards working as their very first day. Each with 2 CD backups.
>>737947324Idk, i had to backup 2010s SDcards because they had become unstable and some files had become corrupted
>>737947519Such is tech, I guess. A trillion factors combined.
>>737946052What you really need to get is a Blu Ray pc burner so you can digitise your collection, via hand break and makemkv
>>737933493Yeah. I still have all of my 360 games, but they're sitting at my parent's house collecting dust. My own 360 broke over a decade ago, so if I want to play my Halo 3 disk I would have to ask my sister if I can borrow her 360, and then pick up my game from my parent's house, or I could buy a new 360, which I'm not going to do. Or I could just log into my Steam and download Halo 3 there. Halo 3 now exists anywhere I can log into my Steam account. I have more confidence in losing access to hardware than I do losing access to my Steam library.
>>737939765How do you explain this ancient ugly setup to all the women you bring over?
>>737948370Yeah I'll get a Blu Ray disc drive for sure, but I'd like a way to watch them with the wife and kids before my server is set up.
>>737945346Only things that ever were actually susceptible to disc rot were Laserdiscs, and only because half of all LDs made were manufactured wrong so that the seal in the casing isn't completely airtight. CDs, DVDs, Blurays don't have to care about any of that as long as you store them indoors.>>737945452It's not on your side buddy. I own thousands of discs and not a single one has rotted in 40 years.
>>737948592>but I'd like a way to watch them with the wife and kids before my server is set upI would say either a blu ray player or a blu ray capable games console. Like a PS3 4 or 5, or a Xbox one, or Series X.I personally use a Series X for my blu-rays
>>737946980*sharts into your mouth*read that context you monkey
>>737948540Imagine caring about what holes think lmaoCouldn't be me
>>737932367maybe if you're storing these things in damp sheds or something I have PS1 discs that still look perfect
>>737948540"hey babe, wanna play some micro machines?"
>>737940953this was posted by a techpriest.
>>737932367Disc rot doesn't exist, you have no evidence to substantiate these claims other than intentionally fucked up hard drives and a single study funded by those that wanted to end physical media ownership. I have cd's other than you that are in perfect condition and were not stored under special circumstances, just left in a plastic bag for two decades.
>>737948734Yeah, I said earlier that I thought about a PS3 but I'd rather a stand alone device
>>737949147PS1 discs are more resistant than the average CD or DVD
>>737932367>please can anyone thing about the corporate profits?!?!?! ;_;no :)
>>737948540Pro tip: you should almost never pick up girls outside your field(s) of interests. It rarely ever goes well.Also, if the girl is not at all interested in retro games or emulation just say that you like tinkering with old hardware and more often than not she'll be rather impressed.
>>737949765>just left in a plastic bag for two decades.That's more than what 99% of people do tho.
>>737949871You don't need to resort to absurd exaggerations. People don't leave cd's just lying around on the floor for decades.
>>737949828The ideal stand alone blu ray player would be a Magnetar UDP800, but that tends to be quite expensive, so personally I would recommend getting a Panasonic DP-UB9000 or the DPUB820 if you are on a budget.
>>737932367>he didn't rip his game collection years agolollmao
None of my discs have this issue.And I live in the Navajo Desert
>>737949949What exaggeration? Just being in a plastic bag is a huge benefit humidity wise. Cases themselves are not steamproof. In my experience most people have old cd racks with their cds in old rickety cages somewhere the sun can get to. Slowly but surely that has an effect compared to having them in a bag in a shadowy closet.
>>737949854I have never met a girl with the same interests as me in 33 years on this planet
>>737949607From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh
>>737937450In the USA you literally can't go outside without getting into a gunfight, if you're not carrying you're free loot. It's a PvP server everyone knows that. Git gud or git out
>>737952205Don't make me sad Anon...
>>737932367Bait, my 25 year old discs look brand new in their cases. That disc was not stored/handled properly
>>737940890You think there would be any issue with copying it to an M-DISC or something?
