THE garry's Mod successor is out RIGHT NOW aaaaaaand no-one is happy about it..........
>>737933143Why not
>>737933154they decided to launch with zero good games and the sandbox mode sucks. It's also filled with AI slop roblox games.
>>737933191Well obviously it takes time for good user created game modes to appearDid players thought it would magically release with the same amount of content as 20 year old Gmod?
>>737933143eternally mogged by Jerry's Mod btw
>>737933143They should have built off of HLX instead
>>737933623genuinely grim.
At this point the guy practically follows every statement he makes with expressly stating that this is NOT supposed to be a garry's mod successor.Is Grand Theft Auto 5 actually a Lemmings successor just because the same guys made it?
>>737933623Isn't it using source 2? Wtf happened
>>737933783>not supposed to be a garry's mod successor>when it's the same fucking thing but worseinsane cope
>>737933783
>>737933143CHUDS STOP MAKING FUN OF THIS GAME THIS GAME IS GREAT YOU CAN CUT GRASS PLEASE BUY AND PLAY IT AND BUY ALL THE COSMETICS IM LOSING MONEY AHHHHHHHHHHH
>>737933623I never understood what was Garry's mod added value?
>>737933885Go back to the marathon thread
>>737933783They probably would've been better off making a successor to gmod then, and not roblox but worse and less popular.
>>7379336236.5k hours in gmodS&box is trash and Garry is a faggotAlso there is no community nowadays it's all slop
Those character designs are ugly as sin
>muh shitty gamesgmod had 0 custom games and everyone had fun building stuff
>>737933883it would appear I had outdated info
>>737933970>everyone had fun
>>737934052Delete this
>>737934052>could have left the server at any moment>chose not toyeah he had fun
Can anyone explain why Garry couldn't literally make Gmod but in Source 2 just so we can have Gmod but with better graphics and without the Source 1 limitations?
>>737933143Improve all of the game modes as step one.The actual functionality of modding and get rid of the sausage people and maybe it will eventually be something. But we've been saying this for a long time for nothing to change.It should match the original Garry's Mod and be able to do more than it. Right now it's inferior to it.It's too barebones in comparison to the OG so why would anyone buy something inferior?
>>737934108What timeline do you think you're living in?
>>737934052STOP SAYING THAT
>>737933256But sandbox is fun in gmod so it didn't matter for a while
>>737934108Isn't that what sbox is?
>>737934108no idea, let's ask himwhoops, looks like he's just going to keep posting announcements about how his game is awesome
>>737933970Because Gmod was built to be a fun toy. This was built as a platform for pajeets and grifters to make ripoffs of Roblox games.
>>737933256roblox has a huge market because it is multiplatform
>>737933623jesus christ
>>737934140Sbox is basically Garry's Roblox
>>737934196Isn't that what Gmod is?
>>737934291No
>>737933795The funny thing is, source uses ipion physics and s&box uses "valve's" physics engine. In quotation mark because it used rubikon, s2 exclusive phys engine, but switched to box3d, which was described as opensource version of rubikon, and made by the guy behind box2d, but it isn't available outside s&box and like there isn't anything concrete about it on the net.But the explosion situation looks like the players and npc are kinda glued to the surface not being unglued at the death? I hope there are examples how ragdolls react to explosion.
>>737933623Wasn't the whole point of S&box for Garry to add some C# wrappers around Source 2 and release it? source 2 doesn't behave like this.
>>737933795It's not really, they removed liker half of source two over time. It's mostly C#, .net, and other custom shit. This post conveys it well https://steamcommunity.com/app/590830/discussions/0/836123263125947097/
>>737933256stop pretending to be some clueless person just joining the conversation you nigger faggot, the game is complete shit
>>737933795It is but Garry in his infinite wisdom has decided to rip out all the source 2 components and make it like Unity
>>737934416Garry's version of Source 2 doesn't even resemble the real thing anymore.
>>737933143It took me that long to realize the s& was meant to be read as sANDbox.
I'm just glad I can play Vanilla TTT again while it last, Garrys Mod TTT is infected with giga aids look crate systems that only jeets play on.
>>737934298why not? whats the big difference? maybe dont be so pedantic
>That will be $20 to play shitty modded slop, and to make our games for us!Is Garry a retard?
>>737934291you're a nigger
>>737934458List 5 differences
>>737933623We are really incapable of making good games anymore for some reason.
>>737934108Quick glimpse of the Steam reviews showed me some people from his discord bitching in a more personal manner. Apparently Garry lives a hundred miles up his own ass and has a god complex and that's probably a big part of why he botched this. Anyone here able to elaborate more?
>>737933623Jesus christ what the hell happened?How could you miss so many physics characteristics on a game that is built on physics as the main mode? it's practically a physics showcase. Can they even change this? or is their physics implementation just absolutely busted? source 2 is actually supposed have decent physics i thought.
>>737934765i hope he blames the devs he gave early access for making slop and i hope they eat him alive when the game dies, all their skins crash, and their work is for nothing
>>737934768>Can they even change this?The physics are 100% moddable however you want
>>737933623>huge explosion>doesn't even move you an inchGoddamn this is depressing.>>737934768>can they even change thisI think S&box' version of Source 2 is just various components ripped out and replaced with their own implementation, so yes, it should be very possible to bring back Rubikon.
>>737934854Why not just leave ragdolling and water buoyancy in by default? it's the biggest oversight on face value. If it is possible to achieve the same thing then it should be default. The whole point of sandbox is doing dumb shit like knocking npcs out of the map and watching them fly everywhere with some stupid contraption you built.
>>737933256>Well obviously it takes time for good user created game modes to appeaSome people have had this game since like 2023 I'm pretty sure, it was in closed beta for years
Not the whole point but it's something people do and expect to see.
>>737934765Is that any surprise when he kept insisting on the grotesque sausage people? Or how he couldn't admit he could've been wrong about the Nintendo DCMA?
>>737934052Is he still there?
>>737933143Because it's troon shit
>>737933970>gmod had 0 custom gamesIncorrect since it had custom altered modes of the already provided ones, just not for gm_construct. The issue with s&box is that the sandbox is not the base game mode like it was in gmod. Therefore it inherits all of it's properties by default. That's why gmod has all of the same properties of regardless of the mode even if custom modes existed.
>>737934448I haven't played yet :P
>>737934952>Why not just leave ragdolling and water buoyancy in by default?Lil timmy's are already crying about the performance as is. Introducing more complex interactions would only make it worse.
>>737935901so why are you talking like you know anything about it you fucking faggot
>>737935949I do know user created content takes time, it's like common sense
>>737935910Gmod made this run smoothly in a cave with 2006 hardware
>>737934564maybe dont be such a retard
>>737935990holy shit you speak like a fucking midwit
>>737936115no
>>737934952Because the whole thing runs like shit thanks to whatever slopcode they brought on board. They heavily simplified physics just so it doesn't lag.
>>737936135Am I wrong?
>>737936191yes you faggot making the most basic obvious statements even after you were completely misinformed and wrong about the situation makes you a retard, kill yourself
>>737936024ok cool, but gmod was a kiddies playground tho?S&box is serious game development platform for actual devs like Unity and Unreal. Why waste resources on something as niche as ragdolling and water buoyancy if not every game is going to make use of them and the one that do can just download as needed?
>>737934854So for the default he wanted exclusively "limp bricks"?>>737936330>S&box is serious game development platform for actual devs like Unity and Unreal.Fucking lol that's the angle they're gunning for with this? Holy shit, this crash is going to be a delight to witness.
>>737936330go back working on your "game" garry
>>737934765Every day that schizophrenic dude that stalked Garry and threatened him and his family to the point Garry had to get a restraining order is exonerated.
>>737933143Why do the characters look like absolute fugly dogshit?
>>737933986nah you're just like every other faggot who makes a stupid assumption and then won't admit when he's proven wrong. SOO many people parroting the retarded sentiment that it was never meant as a gmod successor when it's LITERALLY labeled as such on the first fucking sentence of the store page.You're a moron.
>>737936608Not uglier than your typical gmod/sfm mashinima freak
>>737934052Send me the video. Been ages since i watched it
>>737936608Something something someone would've made porn out of them if they weren't disgusting looking faggots
I will check it out when discounted
>>737933143>had my access revoked twice for not sinking enough hours into sausageslop>now they want $20 for itno thanks
>>737935910>timmy'sThe poo mask slips>>737936864Just wait until it goes free, I highly doubt you'd lose much in terms of ebin roblox game clones
>>737936668Anon... you could make some abominations in gmod/sfm but the default models all looked fine. These disgusting freaks look like somebody scraped off Chuckies face and squished it onto a rotting hotdog then ran it through an AI Kerbal filter. What the fuck are you talking about?
>>737933623God that's embarrassing.Down to the rip off grav gun and everything.
>>737936447It's gonna crash until someone makes some good shit and then it'll suddently be good and everybody always loved it
>>737936645He used to throw fits on social media over people calling it gmod 2 all the time though
>>737933623>>737933795>>737935910It is, that's Source 2.https://youtu.be/2bg22FUpNC4?si=tpx__97vTZWRM0RS&t=84Half-Life Alyx didn't need water so they never bothered implementing it properly, water in Counter-Strike 2 still has a bug where if you touch solid ground while underwater you can't swim up, so you either need a ladder or a push trigger to prevent the player from getting stuck, and you can see at the end of the attached video that ragdolls also don't have buoyancy.I'm sure HLX will have it, but for now s&box isn't that much different from how valves current S2.
GMod had an entire life before the actual game modes. All Garry ever did around 2005 is try to make it a pure sandbox physics building game. He'd always publicly shit on people interested in RP. No one was even asking for more features, we were content with driving really shitty car mods around and changing our player name to reflect our job and how much cash we had.I quit not long after full release, but I heard about all those RP servers blowing up and basically selling the game.Now the focus seems to be on shitty game modes and Garry botched the actual physics sandbox part of it, ironic.
Just finished my 2nd day of playing, tried a variety of games.>Lawn mower simself explanatory, you mow the lawn and get better tools, standard idle game, a billion of them on roblox>TTTIt's not really good at all. Half of the shit in maps doesn't work, you can't traverse is half of them, sometimes props will just randomly fly, in fact, it's missing almost all prop phyiscs entirely.>sausage survivorIt's literally any top down 3rd person zombie wave survival game>MurderI tried to play this, and there's just no players.>Strike ForceIt's basically copy basted Phantom Forces from Roblox. Nothing special.And then a handful of other ones just for shits and giggles, but none stuck out. At the moment, the best polished game is Mowing the Lawn.But, in terms of this actually going anywhere, I'm not sure Garry has it. Almost all the games have staggering low player counts already, which isn't good. Fire up Roblox right now, and you can play basically all the games I mentioned above, but with actual people in them, and if not, far better games. Visually, this game is really ugly to look at, and not in a very aesthetic way. Roblox has a charm to it, Fortnite has it's own style even if I don't like it, and even Garrys Mod with the help of the original Valve assets from HL of course has it's janky pizzazz.For game creators - maybe there's something here, I don't know. You get a better royalty than Roblox, but in it's current state, it's $20. $20 goes a long way on every other platform for a user.I wanted to try to like these games in my 9 hours spent on it, but I think another problem I immediately found is that there's a certain type of person who played Garrys Mod, who now plays this, who is very unpleasant. Not very welcoming to new comers either, as the AFK games are basically entirely non-communicatory, and the other player based games just don't really rely on anything.Save your money, don't buy this junk. Maybe in a few years, definitely not right now.
>>737934191Roblox has a huge pedo groomer problem
>>737937161Meant for >>737934952It's been a while since I played CS2, I think remember seeing that valve might have made ragdolls float but it also could have been hammer trick.I know that swimming was definitely still bugged even last year.
>>737933623lole
>>737937421what protections does s&box have against pedo groomers? last i saw they had to panic add an option to turn off chat when a streamer couldn't do it
>>737933143"ess and box" what a stupid name for a game
>>737933623hopefully garry will be ODing on heroin at a bus station in a few years after this garbage makes him go broke
>>737934765>Source 2 goes open source>Gary literally just adds LUA to it for scripting and releases it as a 'game'>Somehow gets god complexGary's Mod is literally just the Source engine with and editing interface, 99.99% Valve and 0.01% Gary, yet he got a god complex just for being the first person to do the most obvious thing the moment the engine went open source.
>>737937212>heard about all those RP servers blowing up and basically selling the game.Only reason i really got into it aside from TTTThe physics cars shit got old fast and its something you play for a few hours or maybe a couple of weeks at most and never touch again. Most of the people complaining about not getting gmod haven't played it for 15 years anyway. Sandbox is alright but without the other modes and I'd have rarely touched gmod. I only hate enforced rules faggotry of darkrp which has always been my gripes with how you're not allowed to play in your own way without an admin or moderator there to break up the fun and tell you how many rules you broke before pema banning your ass forever.There was a standalone game there which i thought would answer my prayers in Aneurism IV but it didn't survive in playercounts and thus I'm back to square one playing Garry's shit game again. I came to it for different things. Otherwise it would just be boring minecraft tier autism. Theres a hundred shitty build physics cards games out there so even if Garry mocks it he was made irrelevant a long time ago.
>>737936645Of course they've now deleted it off their site, or atleast I can't find it on the modern version, to capitalize on people thinking it's GMod 2, but here's a direct quote from an older version of official s&box site that I found using Wayback Machine
>>737937673*build shitty physics CARS gamestypo
>>737937421>>737937512Garry didn't bring protection, he wants the doors wide open for those sick fucks!
>>737937485they actually fixed ithttps://github.com/Facepunch/sandbox/commit/f07ed6b0dbf8fc5e53f3d84f228891a96317d474
>>737933623This is just cherry picked or something, right? There's no way that's just how the physics work, right?
>>737937673I guess it was the novelty back then. Manipulating HL2 and custom assets. Building tools kept improving too. I spent hundreds and hundreds of hours doing that shit, but also I was like 14 at the time.
>>737933143I don't get why he couldn't just make Gmod but in Source 2. Sure, add all the Roblox shit on top of it if he wants, but at its core all he had to do was add an editior and scripting interface like with Gmod. It would have been free money. No one wanted his engine overhall.>B-but it needs the lastest peepeepoopo tech to compete with Unreal and Unity!No one wanted some faggy 'state of the art' bullshit, just an update from Source to Source 2. The engine was RIGHT THERE and he had one fucking job.
>>737933143The fuck are those hotdog NPCs? Bro maybe people have ugly fatigue.
As a player, why would I spend $20 on this when all the component developers will just publish their s&box projects to steam standalone? It's not like buying s&box gives you access to all the paid games that might be made with it, so all that's left is a server list full of cryptoslop without any of the charm of gmod. It feels like a game with no real audience
>>737933623what a piece of shit of a wet fart lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAYXlLCb1qoFuck Garry
>>737933623So this is the power of vibecoding... whoa
>all these newfags just now found out Garry is a giant giganigger fraudLmao, you only havd like 13 years of facepunch forums to figure that one out.
>>737933623LMAOI don't even give a shit about gmod or this game, but that's fucking funny
>>737938071Ive never used facepunch forum. Only forums I ever used were community forums for servers.
>>737937673>Aneurism IVkilled by shit devs and shit playerbase
>>737937257thank you for dumpster diving for us anon. I appreciate the money saved
>>737937161Was source 2 coded from the scratch? Shouldn't it have old water and physics code in there? Or isn't that done by havok?
>>737933623Crowbcat made a new video?
>>737937554>heroinopium you mean? there's a game called that on s&box made by some facepunch dev
>>737934759>Wespeak for yourself faggot
>>737938261There's no havok in s2, it uses rubikon now - valve's in house physics engine. And s&box uses box3d, supposedly a derivative of rubikon that will be opensourced at some point.>>737934893>brink back rubikons&box uses a derivative of rubikon already.
>>737937743
>>737938956devultj also added buoyancy to water bodies half an hour ago, which was also compared in that video
>>737938956Is that supposed to happen?
>>737938956Man it's amazing how much the new sausage people models completely ruin it. Even with better physics it still looks like shit compared to regular gmod.
>>737939059sovl
>>737939059kino
>>737939059benis
>>737938221Shit devs, yes.Playerbase, sometimes.Any game can be destroyed via discord coordination in modern times if that's what you're getting at. A lot of that could have been solved anyway it's just the developers incompetence which is what tanked it. Vellocet has made very little efforts to draw people back in and that's where he messed up bad. Perhaps if he developed more of the game before making it public it would have turned out different. But its just sad that we went to one 60 player server and he's not doing any drastic to bring players back.
>>737937485>>737937743>>737938956If this was such an easy fix, why didn't they do it BEFORE release? Were they intentionally trying to make it look bad on release day? What was Garry's plan here?
>>737939107I dont get why the viewmodel is a normal human and then the player model is that shitfor what reason? its like they are actively trying to make the game shit just as a fuck you
>>737938994the shader might need some work
>>737938956So this comparison was disingenuous?>>737933623I'm surprise someone actually made the effort to correct it a bait post like that and it would last this long unquestioned. Don't get me wrong there's issues with the game but there's no point in lying about shit either.
Threadly reminder that it's 2026 and Gmod is still receiving consistent quality addons that enhance the game and give you new and fun ways to play.There is literally no good reason to switch to S&Box.
>>737939495they hotfixed it because it made them look even more retarded than they already were
>>737938956>stiff sausage limbs barely flail around after being flung through the airyeah its still shit. this is unsalvageable
>>737937068What would be the point to put your game up on S&box? Why would you want to have your game get buried under predatory AI slop and unfinished trash? If you're smart enough to make something good, you'll just wait until you can publish it on Steam and let S&box rot.
>>737939424yeah the water doesn't look great yet
>>737939514https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/4000/view/498352656701457832
>>737939624They are fucking t-posing after death, are you blind, which i think even worse.
>>737939495We're the physics in >>737933623 from a version before or after the game became available to purchase? Because if it was after and only just now got patched, I'd say it's worth the scrutiny.
>>737937257There are actually a few games that are worth playing currently even if they tend to be a bit glitchy or not really worth the asking price of 20 bucks alone>Dark DecentIt plays like a mix of Dark Messiah and Mordhau, it's currently lacking a lot of content, is singleplayer only and is glitchy but it's a good proof of concept for a first person, action driven, dungeon crawler that is fun to play in short sessions, once MP gets added to it (if ever) the game has some real potential in being the killer app that S&box really needs>JumperLiterally just a copy of Jump King but in 3D and multiplayer, kind of glitchy the first few times you try to play it but once you've started the game a few times the graphical issues seem to fix themselves>Prop HuntA VERY unfinished and glitchy version of the game that can already be played in Gmod but what is there is currently fun to play (if you even get the multiplayer to work)>TriggernometryA pretty basic copy of geometry wars but without the pretty graphics and extra game modes>The festering WithdrawalsGolden Light if it was made in 1/10th of the time and with 0 budget, still pretty fun to play for what it is and surprisingly polished>sGBALiterally just a basic GBA emulator but in S&box, very cool as a proof of concept and every ROM I have tried so far runs flawlessly. It supposedly has MP but it's very finicky and no one bothers to try since you need two exact copies of the same ROM for it to work and there are already better alternatives for playing GBA games on your PC>Ghoul GroundsProbably the most polished game in the library for sure, it's a simplified version of CoD:WAWs zombie mode and map, if the devs starts adding more weapons and mechanics to the game and if the community start making custom maps for it, it will most likely become a staple in the library for years to come
>>737939749it was fixed two hours ago
>>737933918That's not a player graph, but price chart for the item
>>737939514I signed up for the s&box beta and it never once got the same amount of content that gmod had.And by content i mean that was made by actual passionate modders and not some scam artist looking to monetize his soulless roblox tier creation.It's not gmod 2 and until gary recognizes it needs to be gmod 2 he can rot in irrelevancy with his buddies involved in crypto NFT scams.
>>737934087Hello?
>>737939889the absolute majority of developers onboard don't have any interest in sandbox or sandbox modding, it's all about making games in the engine
>>737938956>>737937743No wonder they thought it'd get worse reviews than it already did, they DIDN'T FUCKING FINISH IT.
>>737939778>>sGBAIf Amazing Mirrors multiplayer worked in it then I can guarantee you that people would play the fuck out of it, it's pretty much the only GBA game with multiplayer functionality that is worth actually trying.
>>737939514>check page>"YOU WILL NEED HALF-LIFE SOURCE!!!">think HL: Source was pulled after the HL1 anniversary update>apparently you can still buy it, but it's hidden
>>737940023Some of the coolest HL mods are built on HL: Source. Valve would get a lot of shit if they pulled it. It's a dogshit port on it's own but it's useful.
>>737940124>Mr.Meaty but somehow even uglier and more unappealing.
>>737940124stop posting this
>>737937690>is not a garry's mod successordamn right it's not, this shit needs to go back in the oven, and garry needs a fist up his ass.
>>737933623BRAVO GARRY
>>73794012412/10 in bongland
>>737940124i don't like this image
>>737940124>It's bad on purpose
>>737940124>>737940273>>737940281>>737940303It's Snood
All Garry had to fuckin do was show expanded compatibility with ALL source games, no hotdog people and show off expanded maps.Like fuck it just have atrailer that shows you can spawn L4D survivors and zombies now, on a portal 2/cs2 map.
>>737933143Is there seriously no noclip? Saw that in a review and that seems like a massive fuck up and oversight for a sandbox/tool set game
>>737940405in sandbox it's double tap space for noclip, it's a stupid change
>>737939778The biggest problem for shitbox ever gaining any popularity is that it is too unfinished as an engine for there to be any serious investments in making any games for it currently, I have a friend that got into it during it's closed alpha/beta 3 years ago and after making 1 game in it he just gave up and switched to Godot instead since whenever he made any progress in sandbox he could quit the game for the day and 2 days later when he started it up again half of his code would be broken thanks to some update to how the engine worked just completely breaking everything or breaking small things that were impossible to fix since he had no clue where to even start looking to fix it
>>737940405It's activated by double tapping space instead of V now. Why? Fuck you that's why. Also there's an incredibly distracting sway effect when moving left and right that can't be disabled? Why? FUCK YOU!
>that kid who noclipped out of s&box permanently
>>737933795>>737934952God you people have zero idea how games work.
>>737940446>Also there's an incredibly distracting sway effect when moving left and right that can't be disabled?sb.viewbob False
>>737940572>god, why do you retards expect a game advertised as a Source 2 game to have Source 2 physics?
>>737940572I'm not supposed to know how it works. Only that it works when i interact with it. Stop arm chair expert developer lecturing me where it is not called for. It's supposed to behave like a Half-Life game or valve game in some capacity. Hence it was described as a spiritual successor.
>>737936330>S&box is serious game development platform for actual devs like Unity and Unreal.S&Box's tools are 20 years behind Unity and 50 behind Unreal.
>>737940683>>737940702Garry is a shit-smeared mongoloid with a massive ego, but you're also retards for being interested in videogames yet not knowing a single fucking thing about how they work.>cylinders? what do I look like to you a fucking automotive engineer? I just buy cars and race with them for fun how am I supposed to know what tire pressure is???
>>737939239I don't think the development team really cares about the game, if they did then they would have done more by this point. I know it's only like 4 of them and they're all in college so maybe they don't have time. heard a rumor that they're working on another game but can't find any proof of it anywhere>Playerbase, sometimes.most of the players in a server will just be proles beating each other with pipes and not actually playing the game, they are subhumans
>>737933143>spiritual successor to Garry's Mod
>>737940614And why couldn't this have been a toggle in the settings menu?For that matter, why doesn't noclip work in the console anymore? What ass-backwards shit is this?
Why should anyone care about this successor? Will it give us new Gmod type videos? Very unlikely. The whole reason Gmod exploded in popularity was because of HL2 & TF2 assets, making it possible to create parody videos.
>>737940984>he isn't ready for the influx of s&box machinimasget your sausagesona ready cuz this is gonna be HUGE
>>737940780Everyone knows a baseline of how Garrys Mod works in the most simplistic sense and that's all i need to know unless i get into the advanced part of custom scripting for the game.You are being an arm chair expert faggot where it is not called for. If i spend time messing with tools and manipulating ragdolls in sandbox I'm not speaking from any authoritative position on anything other than asking why the game doesn't behave the same and that's the only relevant question i need to ask. Why should i know more? that's irrelevant from the user interaction side. Other than it doesn't play the same.
>>737933623HLA version of Source 2 didn't have proper physics for water, so I guess it made sense they dropped like rocks there. Dunno why the ragdoll is so fucked there though.
>>737940984guess what https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=006iM44ckqE
all he had to do was recreate gmod in source 2 and instead he gave us this absolute JUNK because he hates gmod and it's players. fuck garry now and forever
>>737940683but source 2 doesn't/didn't have water physics. Like hla had no water physics, and cs2 didn't have it at the start, and there is a bug that you get stuck if you touch the ground of the pool in fy_pool_day. Sorry, but you are wrong. You're thinking about Source 1 physics.
>>737941083No no, he gave you this instead of gmod 2 because he is a greedy jewish faggot that would rather slap together random unreal engine looking ass assets than pay Valve licensing fees for their IPs so he could use them as a base and continue the legacy. But remember, Garry dicksuckers are adamant that this is not Garry's Mod or even a game so stop asking questions and be a good goy by buying this not-a-videogame!
>>737939251Shitbox has a lot of major issues that need addressing, so minor stuff like this tends to be overlooked.
>>737941247correct, and even then, sandbox is updated basically every day
You dumb faggots seriously would prefer a source 2 Gmod that uses the same assets?
>>737940534That's everyone who played this dogshit
>>737941316as opposed to the AInftverse sloppa we got? yeah
>>737941316>You dumb faggots seriously would prefer a source 2 Gmod that uses the same assets?Yes, enjoy your roblox games and cosmetic items quickly churned out by Indians.
>>737933623unironically sovl vs soulless
>>737941316YesSimply because the Source 1 engine has limitations and migrating GMod to Source 2 would allow for more ambitious stuff, but without replacing the game with the pile of dogshit that's Sbox
>>737941489The user made stuff being garbage isn't really Garry's faultHe could have made Gmod 2 and it could still be filled with Roblox tier shit
>>737941562>allow for more ambitious stuffLike what
>>737941612>isn't really Garry's faultIt's all his fucking fault and his decisions, imagine deflecting blame away for this massive faggot from bongistan. You have no soul.
>>737933143dumb title and hideous character design. this was made to appeal to literally no one.
>>737934759We lost the technology... And the white dudes
>>737941667nta but no hardcoded entity/edict limit, larger maps, shader support, better built in physics
>>737941612>The user made stuff being garbage isn't really Garry's faultIf it was all Half-Life themed and the actual main modes weren't barebones themselves there would have been a gold rush of good stuff.Garry is constantly not reading the room and doesn't recognize this his whole career was made possible by being in the good graces of Valve.Get a clue you moron. You owe everything to Gaben. Get rid of the sausages and give them royalties you stingy fuck.
>>737933623lmao, what a dumpster fireAND the characters look disgusting
>>737938956I have sausageslop fatigue
>>737933143>Sampersandbox
>>737934052UNBAN NOOOOOOOW(OOOOOOOOW)NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW(OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW)
>>737940124Make her white with rabbit ears and then we can talk
>>737941926I appreciate you typing in the mic feedback echo
so the contributors/devs are are in these threads waiting for any oversights exposed to fix? at least they got that going for them. too bad 5 years of prior development with insight wasn't enough to get this all already worked out
>>737942019
>>737938956Not the same, not the same punch to it. This sucks.
>>737942065That's the best part, I couldn't leave it out
>>737941926
>>737933143>garry is still desperately trying to create artifically rare slop cosmetics in his game enginethis boat is sinking real fast huh
>>737937743This "fix" is fucking weird and smells of being a workaround more than a proper fix.>Have fundamental problem with physics simulation in relation to explosions>Let's add a fix for one very specific scenario (death), and also always unconditionally give it an up vector for extra wackyness>Please ignore what happens when an explosion is above an npc and it flies up instead of down, making no sense whatsoeverBRAVO KOJIMA
>>737942432I just vomited
>>737942457huh? that's exactly how source 1 did it too, they spawn a ragdoll from a non-rigidbody entity
>>737942432Yeah, it's never going to work.
Typing out & has given me arthritis
>>737934108Why doesn't someone else just do it then? I mean, if he didn't the door is wide open. Right?
>>737942449nobody cares about this shit anymore, why do these retards keep trying to recreate roblox?
Its too barebones to do anything even sandbox, limited props, limited tools etc. no workshop support yet.
>>737942553Garry basically holds the Source 2 SDK hostageValve gave it to him in good faith because of GMod
>>737942072If this is even close to true then I just want to say one thing:You faggots have to start playing favorites with certain devs and/or games released in your library, you can start being bleeding hearts and liberal communists where everyone is treated like an equal as soon as you have proven to the people that are currently paying your bills that you can be trusted with said money. To do that you should start outright paying the most popular, not by playtime but by community engagement and goodwill and outright permabanning people who break community trust and goodwill.For example, whoever has made Ghoul Grounds and Dark Descent should just start receiving a paycheck from you until they complete these projects while people who made the absolute AI slop trash like To the Moon, S&Cases or Megashot should get permad for essentially trying to rig the current playfund system in their favor while not even putting in minimum effort into their projects.If you faggots do this enough time you'll eventually have set a certain standard to which every other developer and player will then follow, at that point you can ease of on being fascistic but until then the future of the entire platform hinges on people actually ENGAGING with it in good faith and good quality
>>737942553valve's sitting on source2 and only gave access to it to garry exclusively which he fumbled spectacularly
So what makes building games for this better than just making your own game?
>>737942449>Garry thinks roblox kids wanna buy an ugly fanny pack for $300They want to make anime girls and guys, and jump around in obbys in their 15 robux chrome hearts jeans.
You guys keep saying Roblox as an insult, completely ignoring the SOUL GENERATOR Roblox was before 2012
>>737942449>"oh my goodness, this item is gonna be soooo rare by accident. I wonder if there will be any more incredibly rare items that people may miss out on. They better hop on the game soon and play for these soon to be impossible to get items".
>>737942449so embarassing lmao
>>737936837Found it for you.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5TWbeav7hI
>>737943039Appreciate it.
>>737942940Well it's not even Roblox despite trying hard because it's way worse in so many aspects that'd absolutely matter to the average player.
>>737942676access to players mainly. people will give a chance to almost anything on this platform, no matter how low the production quality is. making your own game better result in something with a high production value or it is near guaranteed to flop, and take far longer.
>>737943213>what 4channers want the physics to be
>>737943170This is only true as long as there are still players that are willing to even start S&box in the first place but for every time they try to dumpster dive and only find AI sloppa or complete bullshit timewasting algorithm games they are less likely to ever engage with the library of games ever again.It's essentially a catastrophic loop that the game can never recover from (bad word of mouth) if they don't get their shit together ASAP
>>737943418>if they don't get their shit together ASAPthey won't because they took the narcissistic pic related approach to criticism. they seemingly intentionally released prematurely to cut their losses since they were bleeding money from the start; rugpull imminent?
How does monetization work in this? I wouldn’t mind scamming retards for AI generated cosmetics.
>>737943729from cosmetics you probably get a specific cut from the sales and as for games it depends on the player playtime I believe? Idfk this shit is not looking too good right now
I have a hard time imagining Garry's Mod without G-Man.
>>737942432>p-please jerk off to our ugly sausage avatars!!! No.
>>737934759But pragmata came out this month
>>737943170>access to players mainlyYeah, except nobody plays this shit. It's DOA.
>>737942449>guys make sure you snag ALL the cosmetics when they release so you can get a RARE grab and resell for LOTS of money!!!!!this is peak fucking soulless. the fact that this is even semi related to gmod is an insult
>>737942449>SAAR ONLY 5 PEOPLE WERR EAS THERE TO BOUGHTED IT>DOES IT ARE PERHAPS TO BECOME THE RAREST ITEMholy shit tr&box really is just for indians who got mogged by kid developers on roblox
DELETETHIS!!!!!!
>>737942553well no because no one else has source 2 access you stupid retardfucking use your brain you cunt, fucking humiliating
I know it's been said a million times but it bears repeating: what the FUCK were they thinking with the sausage models? I cannot fathom how this game made it all the way to release without somebody convincing Garry that the sausage people are horrendously ugly dogshit that immediately make the game unappealing at a first glance. Baffling design choice
I just realized the name is supposed to be read as 'Sandbox', not 'S and box'.
>>737944903uhm actually sweatie they're optional :^) nevermind the fact they're the face of the game and garry's fart huffing yes men are using them anyway. yes they're unappealing to everyone who isn't one of garry's turdslurpers but if you think about it, you're an incel if you disagree sooo yeah....
>>737933623KEK! Garry deserves an F for this shit
>>737933623S&box devs/facepunch devs lurking in these threads
>>737933623Valve remains undefeatedfirst Back 4 Blood, now thisyou just can't replicate genius
>>737945672Kek, how long until they replace the ugly sausage player models?
>>737945915You can download the sandbox gamemode code and have it default to the built-in human player models.Of course that'd mean you'd be hosting an entirely different gamemode according to the server browser.
>>737933143
>>737941762Garry was always an asshole who got lucky despite his actions, not because of them
For any Facepunch devs, aren't you ashamed for having releasing such pos? Do you feel accomplished? Does this look like a good product to you?
>>737946017>just crack open the code to make the game playable bro!!!ive seen this repeated multiple times thus farthis is not a good solution. no one wants to bother doing this.
>>737946597they really want us to make the game for Garry, I would not attempt doing such a thing in a million years.
>>737933623
>>737933143>>737933256I had 300 hours on gmod and almost all of it was just fucking around in sandbox by myself
>>737941316Well, duh. If it was Gmod but on a newer engine, people would flock to it.Too bad that Gary proved that he is a fag when he fumbled facepunch forums
>>737946017>>737946597I'M WORKING ON IT
how fast can i make a game as a complete codelet? or can i make one at all without learning coding first?
>>737945672Embarrassing
>>737947506you need to know c#, but it's a very nice editor
>>737947596>you need to know c#is it hard to learn?
>>737947506>>737947596>>737947634just ask grok like all the other great devs on s&box
>>737947506One prompt should do it, we provide full documentation for LLMs here: https://sbox.game/llms.txt
>>737944903He wanted a recognizable mascot for the game, the same way Roblox and Minecraft did without piggybacking on Valve with male_07 or G-Man. Too bad the sausage model is too ugly for people
>>737947824please tell me more about your steamy shits garry
>>737933970Garry's Mod Tower nigger. That was like Habbo Hotel but good>ywn pirated anime with the bros in the tower ever again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7ZrKehQ_xcLET ME OFF GARRYS WILD RIDE
>>737946597>>737946017>>737947392I've got the male human model to spawn by default instead of the sausage. I'll try integrating cmg-divined's half life alyx content mount system next, and then his source 1 games mount system.
>>737947634depends, it's fairly strict, but not low level
>>737944935S & M Box
>>737948323>people complain>gets fixed>0 replies
What else would you people like?
>>737936024fixed
>>737949824Are you a dev? Howd you get a human playermodel into sandbox mode? I get forced into the ugly sausage shit
>>737942449safe to assume he owns all 5 of them?
>>737933783The very first thing it says on the store page is that it is a successor to garrys mod, retard.
>>737939778yeah but the best of the best are things that I miiiight download from itch.io, for freethe only thing s&box offers is an easy way for inexperienced or vibe coding devs to have multiplayer set up already, with the caveat of limiting your player base to morons who actually bought s&box
>>737949945nta but you just switch the sausage to human model in the inspector in the editor, it's that easy
What game dev is making shit for a game that peaked at fucking 4k players on launch?
>>737933191>>737939640>>737941423>>737934679>>737934820Aislop will stay on s&box, luddites.
>>737949824i'd like to be happy again
>>737949945>Are you a dev?garry is extremely insecure and *has* to join in whenever someone posts a link criticizing his shit.which, in this case, works out alright
>>737933623god hl2s physics system has so much soul
Has anyone beat Case Opening Simulator yet? Wondering if it's worth the $20
>>737950148Is the editor the thing on the main menu? Because I did that, I switched to the human and still get defaulted to sausages in 90% of the games. Only one I remember letting me be a human was the driving sim.
>game was literally more successful in its closed beta phaseis this a first?
>>737950393no, it's a separate app in steam you launch
>>737950357No, but Clicksino is.
>>737950436the beta was free and you could cope by saying its still in beta
>>737950206Sure and S&box will die as a result, as begrudgingly said by Garry "Cocksucker" Newman himself
>>737950436it was because of idle bots that farmed playtime to keep the game before the revoke, which failed
Buy $BETASHIRT! I'm retiring at 30!
>>737950148>>737949945webm creator here-Clone sandbox from facepunch's github-Open the project-Go to Sandbox > Assets > prefabs > engine-Right click player.prefab, click "Open in Editor"-On the left side click the dropdown on Player and select Player Body-On the right side under "Model Renderer" change citizen.vmdl to citizen_human_male.vmdl-On the same panel scroll down, go to parameters-Click the dot on _character_type, in the dropdown change it from "citizen" to "human_m"-Save>>737950309I swear I'm not Garry
>>737933623>That will be $20
>>737950487Then its not 'that easy' you disingenuous cretin. It should be easily doable in the game itself. I dont want to have to open a whole new exe for a simple QoL change. You can do it MID GAME in Gmod for fucks sake.
>>737950559I'm kneeling for Garry Newman.
>>737950559>Tags: Not Tradeable, Not Marketable
>>737950620I don't think you understand what S&box is; it's not a game, it's a game engine people make games with.The game developer chooses the model you play with, not you.
>>737950620i agree, it should use your setting from the menu, they're just adamant on sausage. i'm just saying it's easy to do for a game in the editor
Garrysirs... I don't feel so good...https://youtu.be/oa5xFO2j8m0
>>737950643its tradeable after 7 days
>>737950582>>737949945>>737949824What else do you want? Half Life Alyx mounting? Gmod content mounting?>>737950263I'm sorry, I can't help you, I don't think anybody can help you.
>>737934108he'd have to share a large percentage (i think it was 40%) with valve for using their assets
>>737933623wew
>>737950684My bad assuming the spiritual successor to Garrys Mod would function as well or better than Garrys Mod. Guess Im a fucking retard.
>>737950985a no-bullshit source 2 gmod with alyx/cs2/deadlock/dota assets would have been significantly less work and significantly more successful, but Garry wants to be the next Roblox instead
>>737949824>>737950582>>737950885>>737950309This faggot is 100% a dev because what are the chances, what are the ODDS that these webms are being posted and that they're working on ragdolls RIGHT NOW as we're talking about how shit they are?
>>737950885See>>737942645
haha funny dog xDDD
>>737938956>no stumbling from the explosion20 years of progress
>>737950684Not a game?soundpadhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/629520/Soundpad/>About This Software>Is this software relevant to you?>This software doesn't look like other things you've used in the past. As such we don't have much information on whether or not you might be interested in its&boxhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/590830/sbox/>About This Game>Is this game relevant to you?>This game contains user-generated content, which may contain AI generated stuff. We don't AI generate anything.Why did they publish it as a game then?
>>737951284>the developers are updating the game and this anon is playing it!!! he must be the dev!!!what
Better ragdoll forces
>>737942449@matpat will love this
>>737951578>turns around randomly>stiff frozen limbsso this.... is the power..... of ess ampersand box.....
>>737951540Isn't it interesting that Garry chose to release it as a game and not a software when his cope is he wants developers to develop games for it, wouldn't it also make more sense in a "soft release".
>>737951578>non matching view model arms
>>737933143K keep us posted
>>737950559qa won
>>737951578cool now fix how stiff and shitty the ragdolls are
>>737933143Is there a reason Garry didn't wait until there were like a good solid 5-6 games to release it with? Like TTT2, Prop Hunt2, deathrun2 etc?
>>737951983featured games
>>737952031>2026-04-30 18.02.19.pnghi braxen
>>737952031Literally all of these games will attract only children and pedophiles.
>>737951983They were running out of money, they had more or less been spending 100k-200k per month, every month for the last 3 years so it's obvious why they added pseudo-NFT cosmetics to their game in order to skim money off the top in order to keep going since Gmod and Rust most likely aren't earning them enough money to offset all of the spending they have been doing
>>737952174he's a s&box dev
>>737952064So are you going to be like the eric-schizo where you haunt every s&box thread and accuse every poster of being your boogeyman?
>>737941732facepunch's entire staff is white dudes
>>737952321t. braxen
>>737952305>schizoim never wrong you know
refunded after it ran at a solid 20 fps on sandbox
>>737952436I couldn't join anything.
>>737952031>No TTT No wonder it was dead on arrival
>>737952840
>>737952840https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKN_ayrET0U
>>737952840TTT might actually be one of the few games worth playin in S&box currently, even if it is extremely unfinished at the moment
>>737952064>2024got any new material? Like at least go to discord and try to screenshot recent messages i dunno.
braxen why are you posting CP in this thread
>>737952321there are multiple 3rd world browns working at facepunch
>>737953124Wait the games made there can be SOLD on steam????
>>737953124Garry and crew might be pants on head retarded if they don't permanently lock things like leaving a review or access to the editor behind the 20$ pricetag, the game is already overrun by AI sloppa and scammers trying to make a quick buck, if they get free access to all of this there will be massive bot farms that springs up just to flood the game with botted reviews and AI generated scam games.They should probably go the extra mile and lock the playfund behind some actual moderation in order to stop it completely, something like Facepunch having to actually verify your identity before they give you any money.
>>737953424yes, you can export standalone games. license hasn't been finalized yet though
>>737953453Wow that sucks
>>737953449already is, you can't publish a game without owning the engine on steam, can't review a platform game without playing it
>>737953535>He doesn't knowGarry has publicly stated that the game is going to be F2P within the next 2 years and since the game is already more or less ruined by low effort AI slop then just imagine if the only barrier to entry is removed completely.
>>737951756The viewmodel has arms as a separate model, I need to figure out how to instead use the player model arms or at least change the viewmodel arms color to the color of your skin.Arm bones exist on the player model itself and so do fingers and everything else, but I don't know if the viewmodel itself has attachments for those bones, they are named differently than the ones from the viewmodel arms
>>737945672gross
>>737953616yes when that happens it may get flooded. but most low effort ai slop was already created when it was free and open for two years
>>737953619If you really aren't a FP dev, stop. Don't do their work for them for free.Stop.
>>737953619there's no built in way to do it, other than bonemerging a player model onto them to get clothing
>>737953619Can't a script be made that targets said arm bones and any attached vertices/triangles and then clone it into the viewmodel while telling it to use animation data from a specified source? The model should already be in memory and if it isn't then you should load it.
>>737953793>other than bonemerging a player model onto them to get clothingThat was my plan, as long as there's a way to hide the rest of the player model.Altho I don't see this working as a universal viewmodel system.
>>737953916yeah you can just scale the other parts down, but it still won't solve the skin color
>>737950559Can the jeet read? It says non tradeable
>>737951578Now replace all the shitty assets with ones from half life alyx
I'm never playing a game that's so desperate as to do damage control on 4chan of all places
>>737948191they made that into a standalone game, tower unite
>>737953619dunno if it's possible, but like, use player model and delete all triangles that aren't part of hand bones? or scale down to zero root bone while keeping the hand bones at their original scale.
>>737953878That sounds like a good idea actually, I'll poke around more.>>737953978Player prefab changes to your own skin color and clothes when you hit play so there's gotta be a way to access it to get the skin color.If not then that's retarded.I'm now poking around with changing the dresser in the player prefab to Local User and I'll work with that. It doesn't just control the clothes but the skin color too.
>>737954274>2024
>>737954204I asked if anybody wants this and no one said shit.https://github.com/cmg-divined/hla-sbox-mounterIt's a bit broken if cloned directly because of all the updates sbox had but it's fixable.
>>737933143It cannot be that fucking hard to make characters that don't look ugly as sin. I don't care if the ugliness is the point, that doesn't excuse abolishing all aesthetic tastealso what happened to the old gmod it needed a successor? did garry die?
>>737937512$20 paywallchildren only play F2PNothing protects as effectively against pedogroomers as having (almost) no children on your platform.
>>737954451yeah there's an avatar json blob on your player connection
>>737954656>did garry die?No, he went full alt-right /pol/tard mode, but in the wrong way. The entire FP team went full alt-right actually.https://imgur.com/a/9cp8QY9
20 Fucking DOLLARS
>>737954531>>737953256are you finished with that dogshit game, braxen?
>>737954656>also what happened to the old gmod it needed a successor?He actually wanted a sandbox game that could mount assets from other games, not just source engine ones. Like when he developed s&box on ue4 he did that, i think there even was someone who imported entire map from gta sa at one point. But priorities shifted. Now it's his dream in house engine. He got fed up with unity crap while developing rust, and source was old, and he didn't like ue for some reason also i think? There is still "support" for mounting content from other games (there is support for quake assets) but it's just an entry point(?) for which you have to write your own asset converters.
>>737953124It's not just <thing> - it's <other thing>
>>737954883How do I access it from any component? I didn't check the player code itself yet but I guess it's there.
>>737955074check out the dresser source
>>737955123Thanks
>>737954983average s&box defender
>>737933143Why were people expecting anything from Garry? It's been proven this dude is a hack, the only good thing he ever made was GMod.
>>737954983Huh, pls post this picture from now on, or make a collage, i dunno. It's just was really pathetic of you to act like a schizo with some stale picture with messages from 2 years ago.>>737954928Hello knockout chat, i hope your axe wound doesn't hurt that much.
>>737955258>Hello knockout chatI haven't touched that place with a 10 foot pole ever since I got banned from facepunch back when it was a forum, seeing it slowly turn from a based place to a tranny circlejerk was sad.
>>737955189this dude thought he'd be making thousands off the release LOL
>even the Vanoss crew are calling it Garry's Mod 2 because no one knows what s&box isGary will not be pleased with that one, they're pretty much the biggest GMod content creators out there.
>>737955250It is very strange for a grown man to ask to hold someone's kid. A woman, sure. A guy is weird. I'd have said no or made up some excuse (no she doesnt do well with strangers or w/e)
>>737939682>yetthe game is outit looks like shit
>>737953124https://sbox.game/metrics/playfund2 games are making more than $5000 a month at the moment LOL
>>737955429>GMod content creators
>>737955258It's funny because laylad moved from the US to the UK and now is suddenly against immigration.
>>737955367and then when FP died they made their own FP but the tranny circlejerk is built into the site at every level
>>737955529Their own FP is knockout and that's why I said I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.
>>737955523Retard
>>737955642Oh fucking sorry it was xer tranny girlfriend that moved from the US to the UK, looks like their relationship didn't work out.Either way one of them moved from the US to the UK and I don't give a flying fuck about which one it is.
>>737955258zamn garry is so based... i'll no longer make fun of s&box
>>737955780keep coping, braxen
>>737954140for 7 days, apparently
>>737955189>>737955420i thought he was a FP employee, what the fuck lmao
>>737946316it's textbook narcissismact like a total piece of shit, survive because your enablers pull you out of the fire, get a god complex
They don't call him jewman for no reason.
>They got rid of their 20 year old placeholder assets that weren’t even made by Garry but someone from Valve>Game ruinedHope they port the S&box models into Gmod just so they can put you on the fucking sword already because I do not know how much more winging over placeholders can be done collectively before janitors just start raping you on sight.
>>737955258knockout is such an echo chamber
I made a map for Gmod prophunt. Check it out.https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3430625966
>>737933143You only had to get rid of the sausage men and make it compatible with Valve assets, you could have had it all.
>>737948907/v/ only wants to whine. they don't care about their grievances.
>>737953415its crazy that your world view allows you to easily place the entire blame for a staff of britoids vibe coding what gabe gave them on a platter into the hands of a few brown guys
>>737940124I can smell the hotdogs and mothballs from this post alone.
idk about you guys but i actually want s&box to succeed, I hope it pulls off a no man's sky
>>737956965I don't think there's any path forward where it can.It's trying to fill a niche that already exists and is free.If it wasn't a paid title with paid gamemodes people could look past all the slop.
>>737950041Now it does, yea
>>737933143they had like 10 years to make a fanboy and chum chum game
this is old s&box in ue4 back in 2019, feeling old yet
>>737933795Garry ripped basically everything related to Source 2 he could out of it so that when he inevitably gets fucked for violating the contract with Valve he has an exit strategy.
>>737955978Knew a retard CEO like that. Thought he was God because he had a company that he was a Co founder and basically a marketer for. His co-founder did all the work and somehow just became the highest paid wagie. After 20 years they made like $4m while overhead was $3.5m.So he decides to start a social media app company. 7 years later it's $11 million in debt and has $50k lifetime revenue (likely insider deals to make that happen) with less than 10k users.
>>737953535>you can't publish a game without owning the engine on steamwait so if i buy sandbox i cant release anything on there without getting something else? or is it only if i want to release it outside of sandbox?
>>737957113>paid gamemodesit's you retard again.
>>737958001funny how they were way closer to actual gmod game on unreal engine than they are now on source 2wtf
>>737958206I think he meant that you can't publish a game if you made it with a github version.I think you can if you remove source 2 parts and replace them with our own stuff, but that's unrelated.
>>737958526yes that's what i meant
>>737949824Yeah, I don't believe you're a dev.But if you were a dev, I would like you guys to add in a "flip horizontal" and "flip vertical" toggle for particles, so I don't have to fiddle with their rotation to invert them.While I'm at it, I would also like an additional toggle to be added for a particle's render mode, something like a "spawn facing player" toggle, so they can behave kind of like billboarded particles for the first frame, and then, turn into regular particles afterwards.Honestly, it feels like the entire particle system needs more polishing.Multi-editing doesn't work on most particle properties, and pasting in properties on a particle's tab, like "Rotation", "Color" or "Collision", doesn't work properly when a property relies on a toggle for their functionality (curves, gradients, etc).There doesn't seem to be a built-in way of having a particle effect render with multiple textures at random, so you have to work around it by using the "Prefabs" tab to spawn in other prefabs, each with their own texture.But this workaround exposes even more problems, since these prefabs don't take in all properties from the parent particle system, they can oftentimes glitch out when properties aren't identical between the two.Example: Root particle system has random lifetime, prefabs also have random lifetime, these won't be synchronized, so, for example, gradient color using lifetime will be borked, and the desynchronized lifetime will cause them to despawn randomly.
>>737958668make a github issue request
>>737937743>dir = dir.Normal;so the code above that does nothing
>>737956965they should get rid of aislop and sausage models
>>737958327Whoever is living rent free in your head is probably right if he agrees with me ESL anon.The games community is a bunch of cryptobros and jeets who are hoping to get the roblox money they couldn't compete for. It's only a matter of time if the current dogshit that's available doesn't already have "pay for convenience" like roblox games.
>>737958668Oh, one other thing, don't know if this has been fixed yet but the particle's "curve with randomness" functionality, whatever it's called, it breaks when you manually input in a value.For example: you may select a point and type in "5" and it'll consistently overflow into some really big values.>>737958878Well, I feel like I kinda can't now without doxxing myself.Feel free to make it yourself or post it on their Discord if you'd like, I'd appreciate that.
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>>737957113>If it wasn't a paid title with paid gamemodes people could look past all the slop.Are you kidding? I wouldn't touch a F2P game with a ten foot pole because I know it'd just be scummy garbage>>737959351Too bad garry's fully committed to them. I guess I can see how he'd get attached to the sausage people even if everyone else hates them and I'm sure model replacers will exist for real servers once they hopefully exist, but the aislop just looks trashy and I'm not sure why he wants to die on this hill
>>737959385>It's only a matter of time if the current dogshit that's available doesn't already have "pay for convenience" like roblox games.So you DON'T know if there are games like that? Like for fucks sake, garry introduced "play fund" to discourage devs from even doing shit like that. But i don't know if it just discouragement or simply forbidden, i think it's the latter. but like i don't remember the blog post word for word.
>>737960054NTA but there's no built in microtransaction/payment framework, so games would have to do really shady workaround shit with opening up a steam browser where you have to put your card info into paypal. until someone makes a community service for that i don't see it happening
>>737933623holy fuck that's pathetic lmaoi seriously can't believe people think Garry was gonna do anything other than a dumpster firealso reminder that his store and gamemode browser is filled with AI slop that copies whatever is popular in roblox, with people stealing shit and stealing assets, there is 0 moderation happening when it comes to that
HOLY FUCKING KINOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>737959537>>737958878Oh, here's even more unsolicited feedback, since I'm already at it:The new cascading shadow system makes lit areas generally darker when a light's smoothness value is close to zero, moving it away from zero seems to fix it.It also aggressively culls geometry in a way that non-cascading shadows don't, which means enabling cascading shadows makes sunlight go through large objects, and there's seemingly nothing that can be done about it, other than dynamically tuning the values in areas it's known to happen, which is what I've been doing.The color picker for lights is really weird and unintuitive, I don't really understand it.The first value seems to be hue, and the second one seems to be intensity, but it goes all the way to a thousand even though anything higher than ten is already fullbright, and the third value looks like an alpha value but it does not seem to have any effect.The data I get from copy pasting it is also needlessly confusing, there's four floats, three of them seem to be RGB merged with intensity, the fourth one, the alpha value that does nothing.It's really unintuitive, I can't easily tune it's strength without affecting the color balance, I'd just make it RGB + Intensity if possible.
>>737934108he wants money, he wants to monetize other peoples work on his platform and valve is allowing itthis is the guy who ran facepunch like his frat party and banned anyone who ever disagreed with him, he blacklists certain mods silently and when asked about them, calls you a chud and bans youGarry is a thief and a liar, only his discord hugbox likes him
>>737960457THIS IS JUST LIKE PLAYING ROBLOX
>>737933623Why is technology advancing backwards?
>>737960495i wish they'd just use lux/candela etc instead, i think there's an old feature request about it
>>737933143this shit just shows how lucky this nigger was with gmodinsane how valve did most of the work for him
>>737960457>Sand miner>You mine rocks
>>737960682unf S&box mascot you're such a perfect object to tribute....,..
>>737960725mostly because ipion physics was made for accuracy and rubikon (and other modern physics engines) was made for speed.
>>737961318in hl2/gmod you can't even pick up a plastic crate with beer bottles in it without imploding them
I still don't understand how it took them 10 years to make this turd of a game. Doesn't even run for most people and if it does it runs poorly, and there are no games within this game that anyone above the age of 7 would find entertaining
>>737961426up until 2020 it was small experiments with unreal2020-2023 they turned source 2 into a proto-s&box with entities2024-2026 they reworked it into a game engine with a scene system, gameobjects, components, and rewritten physics, shadows/lighting, editor tooling, navmesh agents, etc
>>737960495>>737958878Oh, there's one more thing, there's this quirk that I've noticed, don't know if it's been fixed yet, but last I tried it, using collisions created using "PhysicsMeshFile" (or whatever it's called) as triggers, they end up kinda borked or they don't work as you'd think, last I tried it.If I use them like regular meshes, as they are by default, they behave as if they're paper thin, only activating while an object is intersecting with one of it's faces, and there's no setting to make it otherwise.But, if I use them to make convex hulls, instead, seemingly only the first convex hull acts as a trigger, and all the other convex hulls contained within that object is ignored.
Why are people saying this isn't a game when Garry himself calls it a game, is labeled as a game on steam, the games website is called sbox.game
>>737934108because garry is a spiteful dumbass who accidentally made something people enjoy
>>737961529you're meant to use convex hulls, file is only for static geometry
>>737934108We are never going to get an answer for this, just walls of text of mental gymnastics by a narcissist.
>>737943872Garry's Mod was always, at heart, a Half-Life 2 sandbox. Rather than just a pure sandbox. Much of Garry's success is tied to Half-Life 2's success.
>>737937421shut the fuck up and stop posting your avatar any time someone mentions robloxnobody is going to play your game asshat
>>737941103and I'm guessing the explosive physics also weren't in Alyx or CS. it was already explained in a different thread already: Garry didn't want to keep getting dicked for $200k a month to use Source2 so he moved it off a while ago. If you're looking for Gmod 5 it's over for you.
>>737961423well ipion wasn't made with these scenarios in mind, like i think in hl alyx stuff inside crates are glued to the crate, or are calculated locally to the crate, i dunno. hl2 doesn't have optimizations for that stuff. But they implode, and don't get stuck inside the crate or stay behind, because ipion physics was made for continuous physics calculation (like i think uses tick like any other physics engine, but it also traces for collision between these frames, and if it detects collision it recalculates the movement to include it. i don't remember specific details, but stuff in hl2 can't go inside walls just by increasing speed, while in hla they can because hl2 lags but calculates collision how it should be while hla will stop increasing accuracy of simulation if enough time passed. something like that. I think i even read that the "continuous" collision calculation isn't even a thing in modern realtime physics engines. But i think that was a dev note on a project to replace havok with bullet physics to remove 25k royalty for source engine license.
>>737962232you can have a crate and pick it up with box3d in s&box too without any workarounds, ipion is just showing its age.ccd is absolutely a thing, it got added to s&box recently too
>>737942645if the devs were smart they would have done this before release. s&box has been "available" for years now and they had every opportunity to, for example, approach TTT devs and help them develop a true sequel to Gmod TTT that would be worth moving over to s&box for. What we got instead is a barebones port of Gmod TTT with less features than your average Gmod server and way less maps. It would have been extremely simple for them to reach out to these developers, but the entire modus operandi of this entire game is to present it as an ecosystem, not a platform they run.
>>737962230he was getting dicked for using games ASSETS. That's why he uses only the engine, and not the assets that were in HLA. Like learn to read or don't believe thread schizos at face value.I think in that example players and npc are kinda glued to the ground (or even sunk into it) which is why they are acted like that. Like that video didn't show how ragdolls were reacting to explosions, maybe because the author wanted to paint that behavior as bad physics, and not a bug that affected only players/npc.
>>737962323ccd?also box3d is a derivative of rubikon, so that' a given? Like there is fuck all info on box3d and how it's related to rubikon outside 2 blogpost on sbox.game site.
>>737962974continuous collision detection, so bullets won't go through walls.box3d is really vague, apparently it's supposed to go open source at some point, from what i've understood it it's a completely new thing
>>737961656Yeah, I've already switched to convex hulls.Thing is, making these in an external modeling program is more convenient than making these in the editor.But I've tweaked all of PhysicsMeshFile's settings regarding convex hulls, and still, only the first one convex hull seems to be taken into account when activating triggers.
>>737962410clearly he doesn't play bloons
>>737963081you can make them in an external program, there are multiple "file" nodes, not only meshfile
>>737962410little monkey fella
>>737956965Gary is a smug prick who can’t take criticism so I want it to flop out of spite.
>>737963067https://sbox.game/news/july-update-97c0fa3c#physics-updates>Source 2 uses an internal physics engine called Rubikon. S&box now uses Box3D.>This is still pretty much Rubikon, made by the same people but a version that we can get constant updates to. This has already proved valuable for getting quick bug fixes.https://sbox.game/news/july-2025#box3d>The physics engine is now updated to the latest Box3D.>What does this mean for you? We're seeing improvements in most of our benchmarks, better stability for chained joints, and the ability to run more substeps. >I'll give a bit of history on the physics engines we've used because I've seen this asked many times. We started with Valve's Rubikon. We then moved to Izabu, which is basically just a cleaned-up Rubikon without Valve-specific code. We then moved to Box3D, by the creator of Box2D, which will eventually be free and open source. Rubikon and Box3D are closely related, so this isn't a major difference for users, but it's good for our ecosystem to use libraries that are open source and continually updated.No other info.
it's been discussed to death but I am genuinely so baffled by the sasauge men.The what fuck was he thinking!?
>>737963729alright, so still pretty vague. but it is a pretty good physics engine
>>737962103>Garry's Mod was always, at heart, a Half-Life 2 sandbox. Rather than just a pure sandbox. Much of Garry's success is tied to Half-Life 2's success.trvke
>>737942432Quite literally a troon with fat under the chin
>>737963831First, he made them for other game, and reused for s&box. You can read blogpost for details (dunno if its sbox or his personal blog has the info) but he wanted to have some kinda boring characters that look like your average joe, and sausages are like that, or was it about the human player models, i dunno.
>>737964039They look terrible, does anyone like them other than Gary?
>>737964089Overwhelming sentiment seems to be no.I can respect sticking to your guns and keeping them just to troll people to a certain extent I guess.But I do wonder if they’re hideous enough to the point of actively dissuading a lot of people from even playing on top of all the other shit. Even if the sausages are technically optional they’re plastered all over the promo material and can’t really be ignored.
>>737963831to discourage porn content, I'm not joking
>>737964354That anon was almost definitely larping but Gary is still enough of a retard for me to believe he would think that way.
>>737933143I thought this game was gonna be huge, Gmod is Steam culture so it made sense that the spiritual successor to Gmod would've had a huge release. Valve didn't even acknowledge it on their store on release day and the very few people that bought it hate it. What a fall from grace.
>>737964515All part of the master plan apparently
>>737964515>Valve didn't even acknowledge it on their store on release daythat was an intentional decision from garry "because he didn't want the attention" (or something like that)
>>737964354>I made them look like penises to avoid porn
>Gmod 2 removed almost all of the source 2 engine>Gmod 2 is just a soulless slop shop for retarded get rich quick schemes>Valve still holds source 2 hostageThis really is the worst timeline
>>737964641Very kind of him to keep it under most peoples radar so they don't waste their money.
>>737933623lmao how the fuck?the whole point of garrys mod is its a sandbox of source physicssource 2 has superior physics so this is so disappointing lol
I'm going to completely ignore it for about 5 years and then look at the handful of good games that people made.
>>737964717it was fixed today
>>737933143It's strange that it's so common for people to make things shit out of spite. You put your time and energy into making things worse, I wouldn't even call it a mentality, it's just mental illness.
>>737963163Well, I can't test it right now, so I'll take your word for it.
>>737933623I didn't even wanted to give this game the benefit of doubt because gmod is perfect as it is but holy shit it really is this bad
>>737933143>>737933623i don't understandwasn't the whole point of garrys mode to fuck around with source engine?why would anyone play s&box? it looks ugly as shit on top of that
>>737942432put a maid outfit and spiky bands on heror a sailor uniformor instead of glasses, an eyepatch, for maximum sexo
I only got this game to try and make weird shit by myself in the sandbox mode
>>737936230hes right tho
>>737965574It’s Roblox for adults!And by that I mean it has no audience at all. It’s just a punjabi AI sweatshop cranking out slop for no one.
>>737964641It WAS on the front page apparently, and he asked to take it down? Someone posted this in previous thread.
>>737964641>>737966423
apparently garry is adding tags, not outright removing sloppy games
>>737966662
>>737966662>Wear the star jude!Luddites holding gaming back once again. Awful they bullied Gary into doing this.
>>737966825what have you got to hide? i thought you were proud of vibe coding. let me find these gemmies more easily.
>>737966825how sloppers recoil when being found out will never not be funny
>>737958438s&box used to be able to easily import stuff from essentially any game into itself back then
>>737968363you still can, there's a mount system
>>737968363>8 yearsdamn this guy become a graphics programmer
>>737933783>Grand Theft Auto 5 actually a Lemmings successor just because the same guys made it?Yes
>>737966825That's a fantastic idea. Force a.i creators to wear a armband indicating their lower status. Maybe a brand
>>737937743>+= Vector3.UpHuh?
>>737969113a static constant of 0,0,1 - a vector3 pointing up (z-up)
>>737968468How do you mount games? It's not dumbass-proof like Gmod where it's a checklist from the main menu.
>>737969583it's not, no. you need a precompiled dll and place it in mounts, they haven't fully fleshed that out yet for fan mounts
>>737970068So it's going to be updated in, hopefully more streamlined.
>>737970385sure hope so
I just realized there's no workshop for this game. That's why this game is so terrible, it's all shitty jeetcoded mini games pushed for monetization and there's no platform to just freely share content with the community..
