Remember when amazing high-quality RPGs were being released on a yearly fucking basis
graphicsfags ruined the industry yes
>>737933385>7/10 game for nostalfags>dogshit>dogshit>5/10 and always has been for girlsFF XII (ps2 original ofc) was peak 00s singleplayer rpg design. It was addictive like playing vanilla wow but good and without needing other people to clear the content. Also it still playable for newfrens
what is xenogears and parasite eve
>>737934075>what is xenogearsA dogshit game propped up by the illiterate, or worse, Dune fans.
>>73793338593% of /v/ posters were born after 2001.
>>737934407meds.
>>737933385None of those games are high quality, they're lazy cinematic trash for normalfags and retards
>>737934407I cannot even begin to understand a level of schizophrenia that somehow ties xenogears to dune.
>>737934573Spoken like a true extraction shooter fan.
>>737934075>what is xenogearsA unfinished game.
This pic still freaks me outAll of that, from one dev, for one console, in one year
>>737934620this place is overrun by bots and retards who chronically huff their own farts, somehow convincing themselves their schizo theories are right
>>737934686And it still mogs FF7.
>>737934656I play a lot of RPG and JRPGs specifically, never played any extraction shooter, FF is dogshit for bottom feeders.
>>737933850This. X was the beginning of the end.
final fantasy 7 is not a good video game. the story isnt just confusing, its really stupid.
I was looking at this today and it's funny because you can see gaming and The Simpsons dying at the same time
>>737933385E33 will save JRPG just like ff7 and P5!
>>737933850Stop lying, people in 90s were more obsessed with graphics than in 00s
>>737933385FFVII really made them more money than god at the time. it must have been fucking packed at their offices.
>>737933385Things went to hell the moment dev teams turned into six billion worker drones who don't give a shit about what they're doing instead of keeping it to hobbyists
>>737933385JRPGs suck and aren't real RPGs and nobody over the age of 25 (even that is too generous) should be into them.
>>737933385>high-qualityTake off your nostalgia goggles, boomer faggot. Games used to be made over a summer by 6 guys sitting in a garage. If you want that same feel, then ignore AAA vidya and play some indie shit.
>>737935656>you want actual good games? play streamerbait indieshit that has one gimmick and overplays it the entire gamestop trying to push this shit narrative you fucking FAGGOT!
>>737934620Can you even call yourself a /v/tard if you don't have a few windmills you're fighting?
>>737935656>Take off your nostalgia goggles>if old, then badPlease, kindly fuck off with this retardation.
>>737934835>(thing) isn't just X, it's Yforgot the em-dash, clanker
Final Fantasy peaked with XI.
WE WANT VOICE ACTING>okay that is going to take a lot more time to recruit actors, record lines, get dubbed into other languages...NO YOU DO THAT IN THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME AS TEXT
>>737935426that doesn't contradict what he saidthey became too powerful...>>737934691>Parasite Eve5/10>XenogearsStarts out as a 5/10 and then somehow propels itself to a 9/10 if you have the patience to stick around for 40 hours>Bushido Blade 2, Brave Fencer, EinhanderDidn't play lol>Final Fantasy Tactics10/10 kino, but I feel like the low budget on this and its reception and sales is the KEY reason Square started being so cocky with anything having the words "Final Fantasy" in it. They probably didn't expect it to be as praised as a numbered game.>Saga Frontier5/10 fever dream mediocrity.
>>737937680>Xenomidwit filtered by SaGa Frontiermany such cases
>>737937680Those 5/10s are creatively better and more soul nourishing than any game released in the last 15 years including beloved indie darlings with no oversight
I finally played FF9 and I enjoyed it but you can tell it really suffered from FF10 releasing next year. They just completely rushed the last 1/4 of the game.
>>737937606>WE WANT VOICE ACTINGI never said this. In fact, I said the opposite twenty five years ago.
>>737933385Gentle reminder that Rockstar released five (5) GTA games between 1999 and 2008 but has only released one (1) since 2008.
>>737937920Delusional.
>>737933385>FF>high-qualityAre you high? Even as a Kid I knew it was just shit writing with pointless convoluted Turnbase combat revamp. Vaan in 12 was the perfect example. Why is he here? The fuck? Was FFX a love story? I beat it and I have no fucking idea. Who wrote those crap.
>>737938296awful game
>>737938267It's even crazier when you factor in all the other Rockstar games.
>>737938296Great game, better than 16
>>737933385>FFX>high qualityhahahahaha
>>737935426High end graphics stuff of the past don't take a decade to make
>>737938447HOLY BASED.You're gonna get crucified because FFags legitimately don't understand their franchise is anime tier slop.
>>737938267The more money it makes, the longer they will milk it... Why is that math so difficult to understand? If VI does even better [online] than V has, you won't see another entry in the series before 2040... If ever. Heck, they could even turn it into an MMO on the fly, and just update it as necessary for aye. Assuming VI doesn't shit the bed in some way, you're more likely to see a couple of RDR's before another mainline GTA.
>>737938457>>737938505The duality of anon.
>>737934029>It was addictive like playing vanilla wowi don't remember using a built-in combat bot for WoW
>>737933385>FFslop>high-quality RPGs
>>737938594the latter is barry so who gives a fuck lol14 and 16 live rent free in his empty skull
>>737933850Back then they were called Bits
>>737938552Realistically, what are the chances of it bombing? GTA was always too big too fail, bar the godawful classic remasters ofc
>>737933385Square literally released the 3 best games of all time in 3 years. Modern game devs cant even make a decent game in three times the time span.
i 'member when being negative to FF7 was a bannable offence on gamefaqs forums. I also 'member FFshrine.
>>737935656>You can't call that high-quality!!>It was made by 6 guys in a garage!!Shut up
>>737938683i hate agreeing with an autistic jeet or whatever the fuck he is but he is right, 16 is quite literally one of the worst games i've ever played and would rather play 2, 3, 12, and the entire 13 trilogy all in a row than ever play that fucking abomination for an "RPG", the combat is somehow worse than 15 and it has the fucking DMC guy behind it, just shows that itsuno carries that entire series, i'd rather play senran kagura with mods to make it an all male cast than play 16 ever againfucking biggest waste of 200 hours getting the platinum trophy which includes having to play the game a second time
>>737938867ok barry
>>737934620I've seen people call Xenogears "Dune meets G Gundam" in the past.
>>73793886716 is much better than 15. It does 15's shitty boss fights right.
>>737938930barry would never have thisprobably doesn't even have a PS516 is is trash, barry is a nigger faggot and yoshi-p is a hacknot even sokens music could save that dumpster fire>>737939079and somehow stillbirth is better than both
>>737938802There's a janny on /v/ who gets mad if you criticise FF so not much has changed.
>>737939150>cisquisition>Minecraft>GTA - The Dogshit Edition
>>737939224there is nothing wrong with minecraft
>>737939150That's fucking embarrassing.
>>737939150what dogshit taste
>>737939150>FFag has shit tastego figure
>737934029>7/10 game for nostalfags>dogshit>dogshit>5/10 and always has been for girlsI'm glad we moved from dogshit 7/10 yearly to dogshit 7/10 every 5 years. Truly an improvement.
>>73793447390% but 2006
>>737935656But "indie" (actually technically AA) shit like that nowadays are projects that could've been made more effectively and quickly by one person.
>>737933385The real question is, now that AAA is so fucked, why hasn't any indie/AA company stepped up to churn out yearly kino with low graphics?Only shit I can think of is horrorsloppa like fnaf.
>>737933385You weren't even born when these games came out kek.
>>737939438But I was, and I agree with him.
>>737939401because low poly JRPGs were always shit
LADIES AND GENTLEMENFASTEN YOUR TEEDUS
>>737939550if they were shit, how did Square survive a decade making dozens of them?
>>737939401The Japanese are pretty good at yearly or nearly yearly things. But there is an industrywide conspiracy to pretend like Japanese games don't exist. You also have niche publishers like Paradox which churns out a lot every quarter of the year, some of it is lower quality but they tend to fix it at a relatively decent rate.
>>737939581there was less choice. standards were lower. FF7 was literally the FOTM slop of the time.
>>73793868313, 14, 15 and 16 are all awful. The only halfway decent modern FF is SoP.
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>>737939747cool story bro
>>737934029>wowfag with the most contrarian yet still completely normalfag opinions you've ever seenfork found in kitchen
>>737939747I gave Stranger of Paradise two chances and I dropped it both times. The job system was good, but it was so fucking dumb, grindy and repetitive I got bored within ~10 hours.
>>737939841MMOs are one of the most dogshit genres out there, just like gachas. Both of which Japs love, so no surprise there.
>>737939972nice opinion bro
>>737934029>FF XII was peakstopped reading there.if you're going to sperg your shit taste somewhere, do it on xwitter or reddit.
>>737933385>very good>best>shit>decent
>>737939841>Japs>having tasteYou're outing yourself, anon.
>>737939747>doesn't mention 11 or 12convenient
>>737933385Only two of these were good
>>737939972nobody asked
>>737940087>they have bad taste when I don't agree with themgreat
If you dislike 11 and 14, then you're a fake fan.
>>737939841>Without the MMO limiter Wakka is the most powerful character in FFBased and Yevonpilled.
>>737933850And yet FF8, 9 and 10 had the best graphics in their respective systemsAlso, modern Shitendo's games have shitty ass graphics and yet the BOTW DLC took 7 fucking years to come out. What's their fucking excuse? Even WW and TP which had great graphics at the time and vastly different artstyles released 3 years apart from each otherJust accept the fact that nudevs are lazy fucks
>>737940147truth. also why an EVA raid?
>>737940290Yoko Taro is making more Evangelion.
>>737939841i feel bad for people who have never experienced Emet kino and it's wild Shadowbringers is on free trial now or soon I think
>>737940147>No no no you don't understand it gets good 300 hours in!
>>737940337it was free as of 7.5
>>737933385It could be like this again but you all are bashing developers for using ai even as a sidekick
>>737940394Who let the mentally ill tendie into the FF thread? Stop derailing the thread with your cultism faggotry
>>737940290They probably wanted Yoko Taro to write the raid again like with Nier
>>737940452It's to promote Yoko's new work on Evangelion
>>737940337I struggled through base game because I heard Heavensward was kino, only to be greeted with the same dogshit writing as the base game. I'm NOT playing through 50 more hours of MMO chores just to get more of the same.
>>737940339jrpgs in general
>>737935656> Take off your nostalgia goggles, boomer faggot. Games used to be made over a summer by 6 guys sitting in a garage.So..what is the excuse of modern devs then for not getting shit done despite infinite money, hundreds of people and >=5 years of time at their disposal?
>>737940564kek true
FFVI to FFX is the best.
>>737940339>No no no you don't understand it gets good 300 hours in!It can be true if the beginning parts are shit on purpose to prove some sort of point. Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, the Sound and the Fury, Black Souls 1, Muv-Luv Extra etc>Once upon a time and a very good time it was there was a moocow coming down along the road and this moocow that was coming down along the road met a nicens little boy named baby tuckoo....But more often than not, if you're not enjoying the first few hours, you won't enjoy the rest of the work. And even then there's the question of whether the payoff is worth it, many people hate Muv-Luv Alternative too.
>>737940548Same here. I fucking despise that I was tricked into suffering through XIV.I loved XI actually, it was not a replacement for a normal FF game, but it was at least a proper MMO with cooperation in mind.XIV is just a bad drawn out singleplayer game in disguise, the dungeons are faceroll level boring easy. I couldn't even fucking play through all of campaign with a friend properly because the game forces you to leave and disband the party every 20 minutes or so.> it gets very hard if you finish all the stories and choose to go into the highest tier autismo content with other XIV spergs to get good gear, do you strictly timed dailies to grind gear that will be obsolete once the next big content patch hitshow appealing
>>737940339Pretty much, I didn't enjoy XIV until I hit heavensward which was about 60 hours in for me.
>>737934029>like playing vanilla wowSo you’re one of those subhumans, could have just started with that off the bat.
>>737940649> XIV niggas will call you blinded by nostalgia then praise their game that is nothing but references and memberberries> once XIV tries something that doesn't just build on or reinterprets the classics, they hate it too
>>737935426yes and we should have culled them then and there before we entered the diminishing returns stage
>>737941019what the fuck are you babbling about?
>>737941085he's just obsessed with XIVit's most like just Barry again
Yeah, they were also easier to make because the production standards were much lower.
>>737933850FF games could come out sooner if they stopped putting so many useless cutscenes in the game.
>>737940886>I didn't enjoy XIVMe neither.
>>737941118it's funny because people are hype for Evercold and he's still obsessing over wuk lemutt
>>737941139epic xD
>>737941139Taken as a whole I'd agree, I've never played a more anti-social MMO.
>me hate popular thingswow so unique and special
I wonder how badly 7R-3 will ruin the Weapons..
We need to normalize AAA games looking like PS2 games again.
>>737935426There is no contradiction here.Back then graphics programmers were still doing cool and interesting shit and developments.However that basically completely stopped between 2004 and 2010.Diminishing returns kicked in and now graphical fidelity has become an end in itself, burning hundreds of dollars and years of hardware capacity for improvements even "nerds" need 20 minute youtube video explanations to even notice them.
>>737941317the ones in rebirth looks like lame Sin ripoffs so I'm not holding on to much hopewhere is your pic from?
>Final Fantasy X's development began in 1999 with a crew of over 100 people and the game released in 2001Barely 2 years to create this game, on a new console, going from 2D to 3D backgrounds, no pajeet outsourcing to the other side of the world involved.
>>737941730Would be impressive if the game didn't turn out so shitty.
>>737933385The saddest part of all of this is before SquareENIX became the Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest company, SquareSOFT was regularly known for putting out absolute kino across many different genres on top of being the RPG kings.
>>737941485shadowbringers
>>737942112Nobody likes Ehrgeiz, anon.
>>737941730Yeah and it's fucking awful.
>>737935656FFVII and its sequel games as well as other titles made by late 90s Square were NOT made by 6 dudes in a garage, they were already the equivalent of triple A games of today.
