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Why are indie games so gay when they don't have to be

Where are the unironic high test male indie IPs
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>>737936648
FO1 had 30 devs. Warcraft 2 had 40.

Celeste was made by primarily 2 people. Cult of the Lamb had 3 core, with some contractors. Silksong was, again, 3 people.

Retard.
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>>737936648
Gay = soul.

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>>737937532
And that means they have to be gay, why?

Not to mention that a lot of the work those extra employees used to do has been convenienced away into prebuilt engines, market assets, sales platforms, etc, and the fact there's fewer people on the team means they should be able to express their own ideas in a more concentrated way instead of having to dilute their vision over a larger team
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>>737936648
>"small team with some funding" then
>a company
>"small team with some funding" now
>a guy in his shitty studio apartment and two other retards he corrals online
lol lmao
>NOOO INDIE BAD INDIE GAY INDIE BAD CHAD YES
You are never going to be based for repeating a tired, retarded, dogshit, reductionist, anti-gaming opinion for the eight billionth time
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>>737937906
>>>a guy in his shitty studio apartment and two other retards he corrals online
Almost every dev on the right side of the image is a millionaire with access to tools and assets dev back then could only dream of
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>>737937848
they aren't gay.
>b-but they are can't you see this cherry-picked example
You could take this thread to bump limit with one example per post and not have even touched 1% of modern indies. You are a faggot looking for /v/ to back up his insecure retard nigger opinion.
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>proceeds to be the best video game ever made
>completely contradicts Roger Ebert's entire life
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>>737937979
Both sides of the image show the most popular and best selling IPs of their time, you could cherrypick some obscure indie shit no one's ever heard of that seems high test but that wouldn't mean the most popular indies aren't exclusively gay and furry games
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>>737937906
>>737937532
we should seriously go back to small-sized teams, with funding to make more than some pixelshit, but with executive freedom to not shit out generic turds
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>>737937951
The only devs on the right side of the image that you're describing are Supergiant, who have been only debatably indie for like ten years straight, and Yacht Club, which was only meaningfully "indie" for the five minutes between splitting off from Wayforward and becoming the exact same type of IP-whoring mongrels.
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High IQ and high testosterone.
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>>737936648
>Straight men are all corporate shills that only shoves AAAA games up their asses.
>Gay men only play chad indie games.
>Western women uglifies and destroys both games
Many such cases.
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>>737938045
>Minit, Cult of the Lamb, and Hades 2 are top sellers
>nobody knows what a Minecraft or Ultrakill is
What fucking planet are you from? The issue with indies isn't going to be "da fags" no matter how you try to twist it.
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Built for men with chest hair.
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>>737938006
Nice opinion, did your boyfriend give it to you
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>>737938143
but the graphics are PIXELATED! And there isn't a grizzled muscly man rasterized into my UI somewhere! How can this be for anything but faggots?!
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>>737938087
Toby Fox is not a millionaire? Team Cherry aren't millionaires?
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>>737936648
>Where are the unironic high test male indie IPs
High test gamers tend to go towards the cutting edge of gaming. In 95, this meant Warcraft 2. In current year this means competitive shooter live service slop. This is also why AAA catering to anyone other than male gamers is fucking retarded.

The indie market has a more diverse group of gamers in comparison which means you get a lot more gay shit.
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>>737938140
Sir this is a bait thread, just sage and move on
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>>737938192
Toby Fox was a millionaire when he was making Undertale?
Team Cherry were millionaires when they were making Hollow Knight?
Supergiant and Yacht Club were backed by that kind of money before they even started making games, that is an ACTUAL complaint.
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Kys cherry pick nigger

this
>>737937532

>>737937848
You are also a cherrypick nigger
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>>737938161
Exploration into the unknown is for men with high IQ and testosterone. You wouldn't understand it.
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>>737938260
>>Toby Fox was a millionaire when he was making Undertale?
>Team Cherry were millionaires when they were making Hollow Knight?
The games in the OP image are Deltarune and Silksong
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>>737938273
But it's unoriginal and gay shit, I can tell because I think the character designs don't look as good as the ones I absorbed when I was twelve! Surely you must be shilling.
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>>737938273
And it has to be done by a small featureless creature with no gender that appeases tumblr because..
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Lots of angry indiegays ITT
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>>737938313
I still don't understand how a lone millionaire, or even a handful of millionaires, can be somehow obligated to make something wildly different from the work that made them millionaires in the first place.
>but it's not different it's just better! why don't you want to make more games be more realistic and gritty and dark and perfectly in line with my tonal expectations?
you have no self awareness.
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>>737936648
silksong is high test for those with eyes to see
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>>737938353
Whatever you're describing doesn't sound much like... any game that's been mentioned in this thread. Maybe your mental illness is making it hard for you to clearly see the games you're trying to comment on.
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>>737938353
Exploration for the sake of exploration is only for men with high IQ and testosterone. You wouldn't understand it. Stay in britbong while we colonise the Americas and make the greatest country that ever existed.
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>>737938438
Which race and gender is the protagonist in Rain World then
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>>737938381
Insecure retards who need the games they don't play to be "the gay ones" are the biggest faggots of them all, doubly so when the "gay" games are just the ones without corporate oversight
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Oh, another bait thread for fags who don't play indie games.
>Where are the unironic high test male indie IPs
Intravenous
Sifu
Deep Rock Galactic
Hotline Miami
Katana Zero
Trepang2
Madness: Project Nexus
Jackal
Fight'n Rage
Brigador
I Am Your Beast
Highfleet
Synthetik
Mother Russia Bleeds
Labirynth of The Demon King
Cultic
Dusk
Amid Evil
Boltgun
Blood West
Ur wellcum!
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>>737938467
>dodges the question
I thought you would gayboy
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>>737938394
So no one should be trying to improve ever for any reason? Nintendo should still be making NES games because that's what made them millionaires I guess
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>>737938470
>so it's not featureless? Okay then buddy what race is it
??? what do you think "featureless" means dumbshit
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>>737937532
are indie devs forbidden from hiring more workforce?
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>>737938496
Only three games on there are actually popular and all three use ironic masculinity that pokes fun at, deconstructs, and subverts itself
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>>737936648
High test males don't waste money and effort on childish pursuits like indie vidya. They're earning billions in phone apps.
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>>737938530
Did you forget you wrote >>737938438 or something lmao
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>>737937637
picked one randomely, thanks, will give it a shot, won't take anymore so other anons get a shot
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>>737938529
If your art made you a millionaire, you shouldn't hire someone else to make art in your stead, even if what they make is "better".
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>>737938625
I wouldn't call trendy indieslop "art"
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>>737938502
Keep being stuck thinking about genders, race, critical race theory while men with chest hair explore the unknown for the sake of exploration. We climb mountains. You would never do such a thing unless you brought a phone for performative social media reasons. You can't understand it and never will.
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>>737938646
I wouldn't either. Not sure how that relates to games like Silksong, though.
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>>737938659
You're the one playing games designed for tumblr tastes
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>>737938496
i only know intravenous because i'm a stealth lad
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>>737938610
>the protagonist of rain world is a small featureless creature
>the way to dispute this claim is to say whether this nonhuman thing is supposed to be a nigger or not
make it make sense
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>>737938691
You're the one having a meltie about how only tumblr likes [game] and thus everyone but you is secretly tumblr for not showing their zealotry against [game]
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>>737936648
Government funding literally forces them
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>>737938737
I think you need to work on your literacy ESL
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Indie games are gays magnet and this thread is the very proof of that
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>>737938765
I don't see how that changes the fact you're the one playing a game designed for tumblr while claiming it's somehow high test
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>>737938793
The claim being made is that the protagonist of rain world is featureless. That specific word was not mine.
If you can't see how ridiculous this claim is already then you're a lost cause. Attaching race to it makes it even sillier.
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>>737938829
I'm not playing a game designed for tumblr. I'm playing indies.
>NOOOO THEYRE THE SAME ALL INDIES ARE FOR FAGS BUY THE AAA SLOP
Good goyim.
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>>737938556
>popular
>indie
That’s your fucking problem. Stop trend chasing, play some fucking games and dig.
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OP doesn't have enough IQ and testosterone to handle a real RTS.
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>>737938556
>moving the goalpost
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>>737937532
This. Every game on the left was made by double digit headcount teams under contract from a publisher. Most games on the right were a few dudes taking a plunge into deep waters of independent devving anc self-publishing with zero safety net in case of a failure. And most of them are coincidentally leftists or at least left-leaning.
The brutal truth is that chuds don't want to make videogames. You can debate why exactly that is (risk aversion?), but not that this is a thing.
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>>737938890
The claim being made is that the protagonist of Rain World is somehow high test, when small featureless genderless chungus creatures were basically invented by tumblr in order to not offend any race/gender/sexuality
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>>737936648
this i assume dionisis with his leopard bulde has more T than this thread. Also Laika: aged through blood is mad max world game, so probably would be up the tastes of left people
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>ewww is that game unpopular?
>that's so gross, like literally yuck!
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>>737938952
No those were all outlined in the OP
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>>737938981
>small featureless genderless chungus creatures were basically invented by tumblr in order to not offend any race/gender/sexuality
How can you type up this string of words and not want to immediately kill yourself? How can you be this far from reality without having even a hint? Truly nightmarish.
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>>737938981
>small featureless genderless chungus
kirby. It was the first popular one
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>>737939098
The high test icon Kirby
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>>737939121
The genderless focus-tested non-offensive void of character design Kirby.
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Found the perfect game for OP. It's everything he was looking for.
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>>737938981
>small featureless genderless chungus creatures were basically invented by tumblr in order to not offend any race/gender/sexuality
Gen Alpha-kun...
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>>737939098
>>737939121
>>737939156
When Kirby was made nobody had gender dysphoria and LGBT living rent fee in their head while the faggits screeched 24/7 about indie games
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>>737936648
How is Silksong gay?
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>>737937637
Got one, lol. Looks very gay indeed. Why not? Thanks.
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>>737938615
Anon... all of those are nightdirge
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caring about validation in a bibeogame is the lowest testosterone shit you can imagine
by creating this thread you exposed yourself as a bigger faggot than half of the devs presented
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>>737938045
How is that the creators' fault that gay games happen to be the best sellers? Almost as if the problem was with high test chads who never buy any vidya. If you were a dev, you too would make games that are guaranteed to be popular and profitable.
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>>737939303
How did devs sell tons of high test games back then? Are gays the majority now, why are gay games outselling high test ones to the point that high test games are not commercially viable, those are the questions this thread poses
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>>737939378
The market shifted from a niche nerdcore to global normalfaggotry, that's what happened. Catering to brainless cattle is easier than trying to make a game even a single jaded anon would spend money on.
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>>737939623
>waaaah waaaaaaah nobody is appealing to me anymore!!!
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>self bump
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>>737939158
Keaton, Italian. Uhhuh.
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>>737938556
>popular
Hang yourself worthless nigger spic
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>>737938538
They have no money
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>>737938785
Not all of them, but a lot of them are true believers.
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>>737938556
And these games are? Hotline Miami is not a subversion of masculinity btw.
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>>737936648
>GAMING ISN'T INHERENTLY WOKE
Here is your multi billion dollar privately held company's marketing bro
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Does an ai sloppa souls count as manly? I am cooking uo something cool
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Better dead than red.
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>>737936648
Why do you play games that are gay OP?
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>>737936648
The nerds of today are not the nerds of the 90s. The indie games you want to see do get made, but you have to hunt them down yourself as they rarely break into the mainstream.
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>>737941454
bullshit, i already "break into the mainstream" and i barely get one indie game in my fav genres a year. but keep telling people that it's true, maybe one day that "coming when we say so" game you've been waiting for 8 years will finally release in early access
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>>737939903
yes, a good market should actually cater to everyone, by having something for everyone
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>>737936648
not just that, indie games today manage to look worse than games did 15 years ago, they look the same too having the same generic cartoon look
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>Why are indie games
>posts only popular indies like the normalfag cattle he is
Grim
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Indie games also fall into mainstream and alternative categories. Obviously, mainstream games aren't going to portray things from a male perspective when the spirit of the mainstream is feminine.
I consider my game "alternative" because it's pure testosterone. The characters have zero tolerance for faggotry, and even the fags themselves are homophobic.
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>>737941868
Sounds like you are about to get cancelled
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>>737939158
Loved the devs' melty when Keaton was the most picked
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>>737936648
>indies games are generic now!!
>left is entirely one aesthetic and either backpedaling shooter or moronic rpg
LOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLL LMAOOOOOOOOOOO NORMALFAGS ARE SO DAMN DUMB
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>>737936648
SEX with dionysus
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>>737943876
source?
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>>737936648
>no corporate oversight
indies are literally funded by blackrock
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>>737944483
ur mum is literally fucked by blackcock
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>>737939378
Gays are just built different
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how come indie means 2D now, where are the 3D indies? no wonder they're all gay
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>>737946530
Pseudoregalia
This >>737941128 was made by a porn artist
That one guro doom clone with the ultra based dev
And that's just off the top of my head, there's many more
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>>737947348
>That one guro doom clone with the ultra based dev
Citadel and it's sequel.
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>>737944483
Depends on the indie, eh
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>>737936648
>now
fez is 14 years old
hollow knight is 9 years old
celeste is 8 years old
hades is 6 years old
>now
you are a cherrypicking mongoloid and you can't even find games from this decade to bitch about
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>>737946530
Blood west was pretty good! A bit short though...
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>>737936648
This thread is made every day. I love indie games.
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https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/PslD9VD0krJZz6x7-NvHvw/
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>>737949969
People want to farm many (You)s, but having more genuine discussions would slow down the board a lot, which means less replies overtime.
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Death to cherrypick spics
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>>737950706
Feel free to cherrypick gay old western IPs that were on the level of popularity of Warcraft and GTA, or new high test indie IPs that are on the level of popularity of Hades and Hollow Knight in these amounts
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>>737936648
>Made but western MEN
Those indie devs would be very upset if they heard you say that.
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>>737939378
>high test games
The best selling games of the 90s were from franchises you'd consider "toddler" or gay shit like Final Fantasy, Mario, Zelda and some racing games.
GTA 3 was not made by a small team
FO1 sold 150k copies, not a lot, even for a PC game of its time.
DOOM is the only game in that image that could possibly satisfy all your retarded parameters.
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>>737936648
One is a generation raised on action movies, action figures, and tabletop RPGS. One is a generation raised on video games, the internet, and cartoons.
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>>737952452
>The best selling games of the 90s were from franchises you'd consider "toddler" or gay shit like Final Fantasy, Mario, Zelda
All Japanese games
>and some racing games.
High test games
>GTA 3 was not made by a small team
Had a core dev team smaller than E33
>FO1 sold 150k copies, not a lot, even for a PC game of its time.
600k, a lot for a PC RPG at the time
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>>737938979
Your bait is shit /leftypol/
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>>737938941
NOOOOO I NEED MOVIES AND GAMES SPOONFED TO ME BY AN ALGORITHM NOOOOOOO
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>>737944483
crazy image
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>>737951034
Feel free to actually explain what's "gay" about Hollow Knight you retard
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>>737952993
>All Japanese games
Yes, your type considers all Japanese games to be "fag shit" more than half the time. The fact that you continue to adamantly claim "gay" is a real attribute that actually applies to ALL the games you're painting it on gets sadder by the second.
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I have always laughed at people thinking Fallout affirms their political identity, nephew, YOU GET GLASSED. Also I don’t care what anyone says, Blizzard games have always been dogshit, I’ve never been impressed.



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