After BotW, Zelda releases consisted of>A remake of the best 2d Zelda I will never play because I refuse to give remakes of the Koizumi Zelda's any attention after MM3D>An indie rhythm game that's kind of solid.>A Musou>An absolutely dog shit sequel to BotW that was praised and beloved by mainstream audiences.>A decent 2d game that had absolutely no staying power due to bad worldbuilding and characters.>And a musouI want to have hope, but, realistically, will there ever be another good original Zelda game again? If you like any of the shitty games aforementioned your opinion is irrelevant because the answer is yes, you'll like the next one. For non-casuals, is there any hope?
>>737937283>no standing power due to it's worldbuiding and charactersDude that's the entire fucking series. Zelda fandom is just larpers cause anyone who actually played the games knows that characters have negative charisma
>>737937337I find that it's often the opposite--that Zelda games tend to lean low-concept and have relatively simple main stories, but make up for it with charming and memorable casts and NPC's. Especially the side quests.Though, it's not always the case, as with the main story of games like MM, WW and TP. But I think TP's story would suffer a lot more if Midna wasn't as involved as a character.
>>737937803Midna was garbage. That's the issue - they have character design and like 10 lines of dialogue FOR THE MAIN FUCKING CHARACTERS. Npcs get 3 lines. There's more character in a single quest stage in dark souls than there's in Midna. And that's sad cause all of those great designs are being wasted on someone with complete ineptutude to write. Fucking "collect all plush seals" girl in ToTK has more dialogue than Midna. This is not okay
>>737937283>non-casuals>ZeldaHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAll of Zelda is casual shit, you tranny.
>>737937283>after the second coming of christ we got a return to what I call the best 2D Zelda ever but I don't play it, nice spin offs, the second coming of christ part 2 and another good 2D Zelda, bros is there any hope???In a scale of 1 to american how fucking retarded are you?
Okay but do you think he's OoT Ganondorf or someone else? From before or after OoT?
>>737939157OoT Ganondorf is actually, for-good dead now. Don't worry though, Demise will make sure we have a Ganondorf shaped villain in every major game for the rest of time. In 20 years, all the memes about Zelda being the same story over and over with no overarching canon will just be true.
>>737939250>OoT Ganondorf is actually, for-good deadlmao
>>737937283>An absolutely dog shit sequel to BotW that was praised and beloved by mainstream audiencesOh no OP who sucks dicks doesn't love a game made for straight men
>>737939394Dude, his last death was over a decade ago and his last death that wasn't already preceding another game where he dies anyway was over two. I think it's safe to call it at this point.
>>737937283Lol, even before BOTW - there hadn't been a good original Zelda since Majora's Mask. You GC/Wii/DS babies are fucking cancer, and you can't realize how that awful era almost killed the reputation of the series.
>>737939510The damage will never be undone at this rate. For the rest of time Skyward Sword's issues will be regarded as the fault of "the OOT formula" and not Aonuma and Fujibayashi's combined incompetence.
>>737937283Said "dogshit" sequel to BotW is every bit as good as BotW itself, and possibly better, due to the content being more thoughtful and diverse. What it is, is that you -- mainly GenZ who grew up without Zelda and then BotW happened -- are so caught up in the clean first-time experience of BotW exposing you to certain Legacy-Zelda features you hadn't considered while you played Far Cry or Assassin's Creed when you were 12, that the first time you got the sense of diminishing returns you realized there's not that much to it, after all.But instead of admitting that, you have a rose-tinted memory of BotW being more than it was, and blame TotK for being a "poor man's BotW". In reality, both are equally shallow, and Zelda games prior to BotW are all varying degrees of amazing, except for Skyward Sword and a few Handheld entries. But you can't see that, because BotW was the first time you got the Nintendo-kino of not being flooded with Notifications while playing something resembling an Open World, and the Nintendo-kino of general Zelda quirkiness. And the kino of Shrines which you think are so mindboggling, but they're still just bite-sized unfulfilling shadows of their former glory, which are traditional Zelda Dungeons like in the old games.It's about time that we all admit that BotW is a shallow Zelda game and even just a shallow AAA game, thougheverbeit.
>>737939484Yeah, lets bring vaati back
>>737939484>pretending the timeline matters in this regardOoT Ganon(dorf) return isn't invalidated just because a game later in the timeline has him dying again because we know no matter the game the guy will die or at least be defeated and sealed at the end. Nothing stops Nintendo from making another game between OoT and AoL with Ganon, it's literally canon he has returned countless times in that timeline.They could also make another one after FSA too, after all FSA Ganon IS the same person as OoT just reborn, like SS Zelda is Hylia. New body, same guy.
>>737937283Nintendo is now into making movies nowNo more games from your favorite franchise
>>737939692If you don't care about the timeline, then what's the difference whether it's OOT Ganondorf or just "a" Ganondorf? Only with respect to the timeline does OOT Ganondorf gain any meaning. They never left him "dangling" so to speak and I doubt they ever would.
>>737939394Anon they've spent the last 2 decades dealing with all the stupid ass alt timelines OoT created, He's definitively gone and lost his piece of the Triforce in all three routes. That's not to say Aonuma won't just cop out and make him another Gerudo male.
>>737939593>Zelda games prior to BOTW are all varying shades of amazingNo? WW and TP are mid as fuck, and enormous steps down from the N64 games. Those "couple of handheld games", IE the DS entries - were also dogshit. Fuck Aonuma, the series was already on a death spiral. I'm not a fan of BOTW, but at least it doesn't have the same problems of WW/TP or SS.The series was only at its peak when Miyamoto and Koizumi were still heavily involved.
>>737939830OOT resolved one timeline and left the door open for one other to continue.WW unresolved the resolved timeline while leaving the opened door hanging. It's WW that made the timelines an issue.
Zelda died with Twilight Princess with the last good Zelda game
>>737939784>reading comprehensionI said the timeline doesn't matter IN THIS REGARD specifically you dumbass. As in, it doesn't matter if we get yet another AoL prequel, because what matters to us is that it would still be a new story to experience. "Well actually OoT Ganon will die in AoL three thousand years later and apparently not come back perhaps maybe" isn't an argument if the discussion is about us seeing OoT Ganon again or not
>>737939936What's this good game you are speaking of? I don't remember any good Zelda game being released close to TP
>>737937283The worldbuilding in EoW is ok-ish, I'd much rather have Null than more demon king and Hylia wank
ToTK is the best video-game ever made
>>737939887Koizumi was quite involved with WW, wasn't he?
>>737937283Nah it's over mateShoutouts to echoes of wisdom though, that's the only zelda game that I've straight up dropped. It's beyond dogshit
nice lust provoking image OP
>>737937283retard
>>737939250I hate skyward sword so much it's unreal
>>737940604ToTK is the god of war 4 of Nintendo games
>>737937283>is there any hope?not for retards like you.
>>737939250>still seething at Demise
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>>737937283The only problem with the link's awakening remake was locking so many hearts and secret seashells behind the dungeon maker.
>>737941216Thanks for trying to post a pic of you, you will succeed next time for sure, but nobody cares. Stay mad and projecting.
It's incredible how terrible ToTK fans are at reading that they genuinely thought they'd get attention for posting their retarded takes in this thread.
>>737941447retard
>>737940573EoW had Hylia sneak tho, it's clearly setting up the downfall-BotW connection>Hylia statue like how AoL had a religious idol that looked just like her>some sheikah start developing super technology>weird bluish energy in the depths of earth>the timeline being so long even stuff like the Triforce and Ganon can be forgotten, even by the royal familyThey even made another hooded Link
On the bright side, there are still many great action-adventure games still being made by competent developers that can fill the void left by the series going to shit. I'm excited for Zelda Indigo, when they finally decide to release it.
>>737940573>>737941534EoW did have some pretty satisfying lore-bits, but I think the few things it tried to play safe really held it back. I could never get over how lighthearted the games dense story is in contrast to the bleakness and terror of the games actual conflict, it was very jarring. The clay aesthetic is really cute but there aren't really any characters or designs that stand out and stick with you.
